Open For Business: a Big 12 Podcast w/ John Kurtz

Big 12 AD Is STILL Mad at Texas Tech; Demands Tech Pay Up Legal Fees

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The Brendan Sorsby saga is finally over, but the tension between Texas Tech and the Big 12 is not going away anytime soon. After Sorsby and the NFLPA ended their legal fight, Texas Tech can finally move forward, but Iowa State athletic director Jamie Pollard made it very clear that some Big 12 leaders still believe Texas Tech should have to pay for the legal mess surrounding Sorsby’s eligibility.

In this live stream, we break down why the Sorsby situation still has Big 12 athletic directors fired up, what Pollard said about Texas Tech being fined, and why Big 12 Media Days in Frisco could be very interesting if these hard feelings are still lingering.

Plus, Michigan president Domenico Grasso said the quiet part out loud about the SEC and Big Ten’s position on the Protect College Sports Act. The Big Ten and SEC say they want reform in college sports, but their actions show they are not willing to give up the competitive advantages they have built. We discuss why that matters for the Big 12, ACC, realignment, NIL, the transfer portal, and the future of college football.

Then, we dive into the latest Texas A&M spending report from On3 and ask why Texas Tech gets crushed nationally for spending big while Texas A&M, Miami, Oregon, Notre Dame, and others do the same thing with far less outrage. If college football is entering an arms race, why does Texas Tech get treated differently than the rest of the sport?

Topics include Brendan Sorsby, Texas Tech football, Jamie Pollard, the Big 12, Big 12 Media Days, Iowa State, Cody Campbell, Gene Taylor, Terry Mohajir, college football realignment, the Protect College Sports Act, SEC and Big Ten power, Michigan football, Texas A&M recruiting, NIL spending, Mike Elko, Joey McGuire, and the future of the Big 12.

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Well, the Brendan Soresby saga is over for the Big 12. It is over for the NFL. It does not seem to be over between tech and Big 12 ADs, though, because we have some tensions still boiling. Shout out to the guys at 365 Sports, Smokey and Crew got a great interview this week with a Big 12 AD. And uh we got some insight into where things sit at this point between the 15 Big 12 ADs and Texas Tech, this 15 to 1 balance that we've been seeing throughout the league for a while now. And that's all heading into Big 12 Media Days next week. I've got one more live show before heading out to Frisco and the star to see what's going to happen at Big 12 Media Days next week. And I am fascinated to see what that's going to be like. Will everybody take the high road? Or will there be more tension? Will there be more drama? We'll talk about it all today. Uh the Michigan president said the quiet part out loud when it comes to where the SEC and the Big Ten are and why college sports is stuck in this place where no progress seemingly can be made and things are wild and crazy and out of control. And uh, tech fans, I've got your back because I noticed something this week, a crazy double standard. First of all, the price of recruiting is going up astronomically. There is more data to support that. But one of the leading drivers of that is actually not Texas Tech, it's Texas AM. But why are the Aggies treated differently? We'll dive into that. It is a short sprint of a live show today. Bracket Cat, thank you for being here. It is early. My schedule is a little bit different today. So I'm trying to get this one in for you guys and make sure that I gave you some content. Plus, I was interested in talking about this stuff. I really wanted to uh to have a live show today. So thank you for obliging. And if you are not watching live, it is the Open for Business Big 12 podcast, by the way, which is where the Big 12 just means more. I appreciate all of you for joining. Like and subscribe as you come in. But if you're listening on the audio platforms, Spotify, Apple, if you're watching on YouTube after the fact, I immensely appreciate you stopping by as well. No worries if you weren't able to make it live. I know this was an abrupt schedule change here on this Thursday. It's Thursday, right? Uh, I got a lot going on, a lot of exciting things coming up with the channel, a lot of good stuff. Good, good things. But uh let's let's talk about it. Actually, let me first remind you sign up for the Open for Business Big 12 newsletter at OFBnews.com. It is OFBnews.com to get signed up. Join 6,300 plus other Big 12 fans who do sent one out earlier today. Already got a nice email response from somebody making a uh a very good point. So you are always free to do that as well. Uh subscribe to the channel if you haven't. Many people watch but don't subscribe. It really does help me if you subscribe. And of course, liking the video uh is totally free and easy. You can hit me up on Venmo at John-Kurtz-4 as well. That's John-Kurtz-4. Uh, if you want to submit a question or comment and you're not here live, I will kick off the next show with it. So it's very easy to still be a part of the action. Okay. Brendan Soresby's lawsuits are done. He dropped his lawsuit against the NFL, but that doesn't mean this is all done in Big 12 country. There's still a lot of tension between the Big 12 and Texas Tech right now. A Big 12 AD is fired up, and he was not shy about going on the record again. We have seen this time and again now with Big 12 athletic directors about the Brandon Soresby situation, particularly with Texas Tech. They're not afraid to go on the record. He thinks Texas Tech should pay the legal fees for all of this. I will continue to disagree there, but the important part here to me is that this shows underlying how much tension there is between everybody in this conference right now. And to the guy who emailed me a second ago, made a great point. A lot of this animosity is has been built up over more than just Soresby, right? We got to examine the whole picture of the Big 12 in light of all of this. Okay. So, first of all, on Soresby, if you did miss this earlier this week, uh both he and the NFLPA Players Association said that uh there will be no suing of the league. Brendan Soresby is going to drop that lawsuit. And in I guess return for that, the the league is not going to punish him for anything that's out there now. They reserve the right to still punish him if something else breaks, if they find out something else that he did. But for all the gambling allegations that we already know about now, he will not be punished. So what it ends up being is, in effect, a a one-year suspension, more or less, uh, for Sorsby. And by the way, he did put out. Sorry about that. Guys, one second. I don't know why this is not working. There we go. All right, Brendan Sorsby did put out a statement here. You can read it on the screen if you want. You can read it on Twitter at Twitter or at uh JL Kurtz if you want to find that. He did finally take some responsibility. Supplemental draft changes, nothing about my recovery journey. I'm fully committed to being the best version of myself that I can be. This is like this is what I would have wanted to see before threatening via his representation to sue the NFL in the immediate aftermath of the supplemental draft decision. But at least he got there ultimately and somebody was able to get to him and say, like, hey man, this is the way to do. Just pack it up, take the L, go make sure you're ready for the 2027 draft. Like, do you really want to be the guy that's you're already going to have the baggage attached to you from this incident whenever you enter the NFL? Do you really want to be the guy that also had to sue his way in? Like, okay, you get in earlier, maybe, or maybe it was just winning money. I don't know what it would have been the legal outcome to come from this in an ideal scenario. But do you really want to carry both of those stigmas? Like you had to sue your way in. Just pack it up and prepare. So that is good. That is good. It seems like that is what has happened here. So for Soresby, I think that's the best case scenario right now. For everybody, I think that's the best case scenario right now. Just let cooler heads prevail on that front. And the NFL stood its ground, which does help college sports in effects, right? I mean, because of the Big 12, because of the NFL, hell, because of the CFL, right? It's like everybody took a stand and collectively said, Yeah, you can't bet on your own team, especially not 40 times without a major punishment. It's not going to be two games, it's going to be a full year. And look, I mean, Sores, we we heard from Texas Tech, like they the word was not even sure if he would play this fall because we got to make sure that he's ready to go and he's got to take care of his situation. And all right, so it sounds like it's very serious. He'll have plenty of time to do that, and he doesn't have the stress of a season coming up to uh to infringe on that. So he's got a lot of time to heal and be totally ready to go. That feels like an appropriate like consequences for your actions ending to all of this, the one-year solution and uh uh suspension. And I will even say this now that the dust is totally settled on this, I think I hesitate in saying this because I can hear people getting mad at me. I can hear like Big 12 athletic directors who are about to hear from getting mad at me as I say this. But I I won't go so far to call Texas Tech a victim, but you can certainly make the case that like now it's like, okay, he didn't really get to play anywhere. Brendan Soresby is definitely a loser in this situation because he misses out on a year, but it's something that he did to himself. Texas Tech is also a loser because its reputation got dragged through the mud. And I mean, most importantly, here didn't get to go get a portal quarterback to supplement for their injured potential starter Will Hammond. Tech could have gotten anybody else the portal had they known this before. So I will just I will extend some some like empathy and understanding to Texas Tech fans' frustration out of all this now that the dust is settled, being like, hey man, like why now what look at all this? Everything's fine. You guys got what you wanted, except our reputation took a hit, and now we actually don't have this quarterback, and he never even played for us. So I do think like Big 12 fans, you got to extend a little bit of understanding and empathy to tech in this situation. Now, I still didn't like some of the things that Joey McGuire and Cody Campbell were saying during the process, like, oh, he didn't kill anybody. Like we got we got everybody got a little out over their skis and off the rails, but some of the performative outrage was like that on the other side. This is not performative outrage that we're about to hear from Jamie Pollard, Iowa State's athletic director. Okay, there's still a ton of tension here within the league, and this is real. Like you can, I want you to pay attention to the emotion in this clip that you can still hear coming out. And by the way, please do subscribe to the channel. It really helps. Many of you watch but don't subscribe. It is a big help to me if you do subscribe to the channel. Just one click. All right, so the 365 crew got Jamie Pollard, Iowa State's athletic director on for an interview, and kudos to them for that. Uh, it is, I mean, it's really good. And this clip, you should definitely go watch the full thing. But this clip is is what has drawn the most interest coming out of it because it is Jamie Pollard, Iowa State's athletic director being asked about, you know, we saw the reports that the Big 12 was considering fining, I mean, in essence, fining, making Texas Tech pay for the legal fees that the Big 12 incurred while having to go preemptively sue to make sure that they could enforce their rules and be able to punish Tech if Brendan Soresby played, right? That's what happened. It wasn't legal fees for a lawsuit Texas Tech brought, it was Texas Tech already, Ken Paxton threatening to bring legal action against the Big 12, who is a buddy of Cody Campbell's. There was this thought that the Big 12 had to preemptively do this and and probably did, uh, to extend enough of a threat to keep Texas Tech from playing Brendan Soresby. And so the league had thought, well, we had to pay a lot of legal fees for that. This was great legal work by BYU grad, by the way. And we maybe should make Texas Tech pay for that because we wouldn't have to do that if it weren't for them. Now, my opinion on this the whole time has been don't do that. Don't do that. If you're gonna maintain any level of harmony, don't do that.

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But Jamie Pollard definitely, definitely and penalize them for the legal fees, or is that just like basic rubbing stall on the womb? No, I think they should have to pay the legal fees. Hey, Iowa State had to pay a fine for not going to the ball game because we quote damaged the conference reputation and cost the conference money. And so we had to pay a fine. And so I think Texas Tech should have to pay those fees. I don't think the other 15 schools should have to pay that. Do you think the Big 12 could move forward?

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There you have it. Once again, shout out to Smokey and Crew, shout out to 365 doing great work with that interview and getting that quote out of Jamie Pollard. But I mean, that they didn't have to like yank that out of him. I mean, he gave that right to them and just listen to the emotion in his voice there. Like, there is that is a guy that is still very fired up about this. Now, I understand where he's coming from if we're talking about purely the Soresby situation. Your Iowa State, like, let's let's all do. I was just playing that. Hey, have some empathy for Texas Tech, understand where they're coming from on this, understand where Pollard's coming from. He just lost his football coach, like 75% of the football roster, it feels like. It's not that much of an exaggeration. And it was it at least in part because of money. I mean, Matt Campbell has talked about all the NIL work that he had to do when he was at Iowa State. Texas Tech does not have that problem. Texas Tech has plenty of money, and now Texas Tech is costing Iowa State or the league some level of financial uh hardship because of having to go pay these legal fees, right? So that's where he's coming from. Like, hey, we're cash strapped already as it is. And now, because you guys were trying to play some quarterback that did something that we all agree you can't do, and that you would have agreed before it happened to your QB that you can't do. Now we've got to pay money. Like, I get why he's upset. But I do think, as somebody pointed out to me in an email, I do think there's more to it than that. There's just been frustration boiling, and especially when you're Iowa State, and Jamie Pollard within the last like two years was on the uh doing an interview saying, Hey, are we gonna be northern Iowa or are we gonna still try and compete for Sweet 16s and stuff? Like they've got some money issues. Like that's where he's coming from. Like it's it's tight around Iowa State. It is not a Texas Tech. And so you throw all this into the mix. I just I I point this out to emphasize the point that like I don't think I I know I saw someone in it here. John will milk the Soresby cow. Like, are we still talking about this guy? I thought we were done talking about this guy. The the piece of this, it's not even Soresby at this point. Like, we've transcended Soresby, I think is the the point here. Like, there are just real deep-seated issues between Texas Tech and the rest of the Big 12 right now. Once again, to use Ryan Hyatt's analogy, which is fantastic, divorce is expensive, and with you know, brand power currency in the sport right now, the Big 12 and Texas Tech are both poor. No one's going anywhere. So you got to live with each other, but that doesn't mean that it's gonna be easier fun right now. Like, I think this tells you there's still a lot of hurt felt on both sides of this. You know, I mean, Cody Campbell was still bringing up uh Terry Mahadr's quotes in light of the Rich Miller thing trying to get another year at UCF. There are tensions, and it makes me really fascinated to see one, what will happen at Big 12 media days, but then just how this operates moving forward. I think there are some ways where this is good. I mean, Texas Tech is total villain mode here to the rest of the league. I mean, you think about what it's going to be like watching games on the field coming up this fall and future falls for that matter. And it's good to have a villain in sports. Like you you kind of need that. Like narratives help. Uh, it helps sell the thing and make it more interesting to everybody. And having somebody to root against when it is the team that keeps winning, I think does ratchet up some interest there. And what I would say, you know, because the tech fan that emailed me said, like, hey, you know, basically, like Jamie Pollard's jealous. He's broke and jealous, and that this has been building up for a long time. And I would just say, Well, the tone of it was like, Texas Tech isn't gonna forget this. And I see that a lot from tech fans online. Like, tech will not forget that. Like, guys, just some of this, we're all in new roles here. 365 days ago, none of this was happening. Tech was in a completely different spot. So I I get it, tech's in a new role as the villain here, but you gotta just embrace it at a certain point. It's not, you gotta, I mean, what do you think? Like, what do Lakers fans do every year when they hear people spouting off about them or coming at, you know, like, or Duke basketball or the Patriots for all those years? Like, you can't just be like, oh, we'll remember this and come get you back, or we're gonna break off and go. No, man, puff out your chest and say, hey, we've got the juice right now, and we're at the top, so everybody's coming after us. Like, just embrace it. I don't, I don't like this tone of like it has to be some like vindictive thing. Just say, hey, yeah, this is how it works. To the victor, go to spoils. Great power, great responsibility. We were the best in the league last year. We're running the show, we've got more resources than everybody right now. This is how it's gonna be. This is kind of fun. I I would like to see a little bit more embracing of that from uh from tech. Anyway, that's where we're at, guys. Uh, I will be I will be walking around the star in Frisco next week with uh with my ears and eyes very open. Look, I actually I hope you may not believe this. I hope everybody takes the high road because the best thing for everybody is just to move on. Just move on from all of this. Okay, but I gotta get rolling. I gotta get rolling. Um there is one way, by the way, that the Brendan Sorby saga is not actually over yet. Click here to find out how. That's for everybody watching the clip version, those of you hanging out live. We are moving on. We gotta roll through because I've got to be out of here in about 20 minutes. So let's go straight into this. Michigan's president finally said the quiet part out loud. He admitted exactly why college sports won't ever be fixed if the SEC and Big Ten have anything to do with it. Yeah. Let's dive into this one. This is, I'm not the only one calling this out as like saying the quiet part out loud. This has been seemingly the consensus. And Austin Meek, who covers Michigan, basically said the same thing. Like, hey, yo, this is why stuff isn't getting fixed right now in college sports, because there's nobody to make decisions for the good of everybody, and those in power complain about the situation of it. Speaking of Jamie Pollard, he called this out perfect, perfectly not that long ago. We want rules until those rules govern us. But Michigan's president just came out and said it out loud. The Protect College Sports Act is a part of what this is all about. That would bring about plenty of change in college sports. Hoping for a late July vote on that, uh, according to those in the Senate. The SEC and Big Ten have actually proposed some changes. They came back to the table with more changes. That's within the last 24 hours. Uh, they want clarification in the language that the pooling of uh broadcast rights is truly voluntary. I don't know. That seemed pretty clear to me, but they also want further antitrust protection. They worry it's not going far enough. Uh, and they want to remove the language about conferences being singled out that they can't expand or merge. They said, hey, it should just be blanket everybody in in college sports. Freeze all conference membership. If you're gonna freeze ours and you're gonna freeze the Big Ten and the Big 12 and the ACC, just freeze everybody's. We shouldn't be singling out conferences. And by the way, Ross Dellinger reported that that might actually happen. That change might actually happen, that it would just freeze all membership. So like everybody would be stuck. And before I hear the you know, realignment frenzy stuff again, because I did bring that up earlier this week. And I know, boy, did I find out that Utah Twitter thinks that there will be a window where this would be like voted on, but not yet law, and then Utah would be high enough on the Big Ten's list to get an invite because the Big Ten will say, well, if it's frozen forever, we would not be able to live with ourselves if we didn't add Utah to the conference. And so Utah would then get the invite and they would go virtually for free uh because of whatever deal they worked out with Brett Yormark before joining the Big 12. Now, I I understand that they're not fully a part of this. It depending on how you read it, from what we've been able to see from people who have, you know, FOIA this thing, like they're not a part of the 99-year agreement. There may not be an exit fee. Grant of rights would still be a thing. I have no doubt Utah could get out if they wanted to. But the idea here is Utah fans think that the Big Ten wants them badly enough that if they're thinking, well, it's speak now or forever, hold your peace on expansion, they would they would just have to go get Utah. We'll see. Uh, but those close to the bill, I can tell you say, like, no, it people who understand politics say, like, no, this would this would go into law. There would be no window, there would be no period here. I I guess the only thing you could say is if it seems like publicly they're gonna have the votes, I don't know, like in the couple days from that point to when the thing would actually get voted on, maybe there's some huge window there, but I it it sounds like that's actually pretty pretty overblown. Okay, which again is back to my point from the last live show I did. I I'm just surprised there's not more upheaval from those in Tallahassee and Clemson, etc. Anyway, what makes it impossible for the sport to really meaningfully change as the Big Ten and SEC sit here and say, hey, we want to amend this groundbreaking legislation. We want something different to happen here. It's stuff like this. Let's hear what uh Michigan president uh Dominico Grasso said. And this is via Austin Meek, who was writing about this in the athletic. By the way, subscribe to the channel. It really helps me out. Most of you, uh many of you, watch but don't subscribe. It would help me a lot just to subscribe. Uh, quote, he's talking about Dusty May, right? Dusty May left all of a sudden for the NBA. Quote, Coach May told me that among his reasons for leaving were uncertainties and pressures involving the transfer portal and NIL support for student athletes. He and I agree that the future of college sports is headed in the wrong direction. This is Meek writing now. Uh in the next breath, Grasso voiced Michigan's objections to the Protect College Sports Act, a bill that is intended to address those very problems. Right? So the problems that he was just complaining about and said, That's why I lost my national champion basketball coach. Then he's going to say, quote, we want what's best for the Big Ten in Michigan. We are not going to sacrifice the competitive advantage that we have built for more than a century.

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Is despite recognizing that, quote, college sports are in dire need of clarity and equitable reform. So his quote, college sports are in dire need of clarity and equitable reform. Equitable. That word is equitable. Dire need of clarity and equitable reform. But we want what's best for Michigan in the Big Ten. We are not going to sacrifice the competitive advantage that we have built for more than a century. Okay, well then you do not then you can't have equitable reform if you're going to say we're not sacrificing an inch of the competitive advantage that we've built. Those two, those two ideas do not work. Like this is literally, he has spelled it out for us. Jamie Pollard is right. I want rules for thee, not for me. I mean, it's 100% like this this can't work. Just say it out loud. This cannot work. These two ideas do not work. It's I mean, this is really pretty unbelievable that in a two-minute clip, this was all from a leaked two-minute clip from a board meeting that this came out. But this is this is what we have in the Big Ten and the SEC. Why do I keep saying all of this is designed to keep them from killing the golden goose? They have the golden goose right now. Yes, Michigan. You have built a competitive advantage along with the Big Ten over the course of more than a century. Okay. That doesn't mean that it lasts forever, no matter what you do. If you squeeze out enough of the rest of the college sports world, guess what? You killed the golden goose. The college sports will cease to continue giving you the same return. If you would just shut up, give a little bit, let it become less crazy, you will maintain massive competitive advantages. Maybe not a complete total stranglehold and making every single decision no matter what, but you'll still maintain a lot of it. You'll still be doing just fine. I promise you, you won't be going hungry at night, and you won't have killed the golden goose. And that is so much of what this is all about. Austin Meek in this article put it really succinctly. Uh, he said, by now it should be obvious that equitable reform and competitive advantage don't fit neatly in the same box. And trying to have it both ways, leaders in college sports sound a lot like St. Augustine. God grant me chastity, but just not yet. Yeah, very well put. Uh, it's greed, man. It's greed, it's the downfall of a lot of things. It's happening in the Big Ten of the SEC, and now we've just seen it laid very, very bare by the University President of Michigan. I mean, you can I hear all of it, uh subsidizing. You want us to subsidize, you want us to subsidize, you want us to subsidize. Uh, maybe I would frame it more as like an investment in your future. Yeah, you might bring along a couple other people with you because you need them. You need them. If you condense it down too much, diminishing returns long term, this thing will not continue to produce the money that it is right now. I've been screaming it from the mountaintops. You guys are sick of me uh saying this. I understand maybe this is someone watching the video for the first time. Uh, but that's like just it drives me insane. It drives me insane. Really, the problem is if I'm gonna be the same guy from earlier in this video, it's going to be me saying my my empathetic side should be telling me if I were in Michigan's position, I would probably I would probably feel the same way. And the real issue here is that you don't have a central governing body that's looking out for the best interest of everybody. Okay. That that that is fair. That is fair. But until that happens, I don't know how that would happen, we're gonna have these issues with everybody. Okay. Uh anyway, thank you all for being here. I appreciate you. I'm gonna squeeze in one more quick little segment here before I've got to run. Uh look, I I know the the RR life, the RR for life. It feels like we we've been talking about like Soresby and the Protect College Sports Act for, but it's July, dog. It's June and July, dog. What do you? I mean, I will leave it out there for you. I will leave it out there. Give me the topic. Actually, probably not today, because I I unfortunately do not have time, but there's not a whole lot going on. Next week will be more exciting. We've got Big 12 media days. It will be very, very exciting. All right, one last thing here. Why does the college football public not come after Texas AM? Okay. They come after Texas Tech for the exact same thing, but AM gets generally left alone. We have a new report about how much Texas AM is spending on high school recruits right now. And I'm just, I don't see the typical outrage that I would see if the story were written about Texas Tech, which the story has been written about Texas Tech multiple times. Tech has been basically as effective on the field as Texas AM for the last 30 years. And they're actually less wasteful in spending as well, yet tech takes all the flack for being this affront to the future of college sports for spending money. Well, Texas AM just doesn't. Uh Pete Nakos from OnTree wrote a long article about what he's hearing right now on the cost of recruiting these days. So let's play a little mad lib. All right, fill in the blanks here. If this were Texas Tech, how would this story be received? Seven Power Four general managers told on three they believe Texas Tech's 2027 class is well north of the 10 million mark. Quote, Texas Tech is spending a bleep ton, and they actually say the S word there. Texas Tech is spending a bleep ton, easily 10 million, and SEC general manager said, We're probably anywhere from five to seven million. All right, that's the quote there. It's actually about Texas AM. But I filled in the mad lib blanks there as Texas Tech, because if that quote were circulating on social media, Texas Tech is spending a bleep ton, easily 10 million, and SEC general manager said we're probably anywhere from five to seven million. It's an SEC GM whining about Texas Tech. I mean, SEC Twitter would be in an uproar. You'd hear the fine bombs, call boards be lighting up about how Texas Tech is ruining the sport, and this is a total disaster and upfront to everything. I mean, there might be a few tweets that I saw about that for Texas AM, but it's not much. It's not much. It is not at all what it is when Texas Tech goes out and does this. This is where, like Tech fans, I hear you. I understand some of your frustration with like double standards here. Another quote from the article Texas AM landed five-star offensive tackle, Mark Matthews, for a deal over $1 million, beating out Miami. AM is running away with the top recruiting class right now. They're paying $1 million for a five-star offensive tackle in high school, right? In the portal, all right, that's one thing, but in high school, we're starting to really get up there. They've got six five-star recruits in this class. It's trending to be like a historically good recruiting class for Texas AM right now. Largely because of money. They're spending a lot of money. They're spending more money than everybody else, right? You just heard they're spending at least like 30% more than one SEC GM who's complaining in there. Uh, out it from the article, outside of Texas AM, schools mentioned by GMs as top spenders, included Notre Dame, Miami, Oregon, and Texas Tech. One SEC GM with a top 20 class told on three. They believe it's necessary to spend seven to eight million to put together a top 25 class. And again, looking up at the $10 million class from Texas AM. And before you say, well, John, Texas AM, that's been a more successful program that's not as jarring to everybody at Texas Tech. Ah, really? Is that really true? Uh, because we need to examine that. Please do subscribe to the channel if you watch, but don't subscribe. One click really helps me. That would be great. Thank you, everybody. Let's look at the last 30 years. Okay, let's look at the last 30 years. All right. I'm in my mid-30s. If you're thinking about millennials and younger, like just anybody that would be conscious in those age brackets, and of course, we know millennials run the world. So that's we're going to choose that 30-year mark. Okay. The last 30 years, both programs have exactly two 11 plus win seasons. They're the same program. They're the same program. What's that office meme? Like corporate wants you to tell the difference between the two pictures. They're the same picture. They're the same. You have the Manzel year, you have the Michael Crabtree, Mike Leach year, right? Those are basically a wash. You've got last year Mike Elko, you got last year Joey Maguire. Those years are basically a wash. 44 bowls all time to 42 bowls, 18 league titles to 12, no natties since World War II, right? Like, what are we doing here? I mean, Texas ain't M, and and AM has been much more wasteful with the spending. Like, I feel like the tone with tech is always like, oh, it's just like it's just like, ah, we're we're throwing away Texas. Ain't it the vibe around tech has been tech just like throws money at this like it's crazy. Well, tech has actually been very organized in how they do this and how they've operated. And Joey Maguire creates a culture, and James Blanchard evaluates really well, and it's a pretty highly organized operation. Now, AM finally has that with Mike Elko, don't get me wrong. But AM also tried that with Jimbo Fisher and spent $76 million to fire him. $76 million to fire him. That's the most outlandish thing that has happened in college sports from this standpoint, maybe ever. And yet the the same vitriol is not reflected there on Texas AM. So I'm just saying, like, let's give everybody the same treatment. This is what I saw Texas Tech fans raising this question when this story was was circulating when I first saw it. And I have to say, it's it's a great point. I cannot, I cannot refute that point. Like this, well, we'll put it this way that Texas AM, when they go on the field next year, it may be a talking point when they're playing a game, like, oh, they have the number one recruiting class in 2027. But it will not be like leading the broadcast. Like when tech is like breaking the huddle for the first time out to the game, or they're just doing the intro to the game, they're running on the field. How many times last year did we just hear, well, and tech has built this by spending like nobody else in the sport, right? Like it's always attached. Like that's the narrative, that's the story. It's not that way for Texas AM, which is it's pretty ridiculous. I mean, look, Mike Elko's a great coach, he's doing an awesome job. I he's clearly very organized. I think he's going to be highly successful, but they're throwing a ton of money at it. As are Notre Dame, Miami, LSU, a lot of other schools. Right? It's not just Texas Tech, my friends. It's not just Texas Tech. Okay. Hey, speaking of AM and Tech, both of these teams made my list of the top 10 programs in college football right now. Uh click here to find out why. Okay, I've got to run everybody. Thank you very much. Uh, let's see.

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What did I see here in the chat that I was going to um well racket cat?

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Look, I will just say, look, I like Greg a lot. You guys should all go watch Greg's channel, peek around the corner, uh, and keep your head on a swivel. That's I love that phrase by the way. I said that the other day, I think when I was on Sirius XM this week, and I was like, man, I should probably like pay him a royalty for that, but it's a good one. We obviously disagree. He's from Big Ten Country, he's a Big Ten guy. That's okay. Like, we can we can respectfully disagree. So I will try to set the tone here. I don't know if all the people in the chat will uh abide by this, but I just respectfully disagree these days with him. Like, we're we're gonna be on on different sides of this, and that's okay. Uh, but but Greg is great, and you guys should all follow his channel, uh, or subscribe to the channel. That is okay. Uh, I appreciate all you guys. I gotta run. I hope you have a great night. I hope you have a great 4th of July. I plan on talking to you on Sunday. Uh take care.