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Episode 20- NeBrasketball Dreaming & AirBnPeeing

Brandon Gordon and Jason Semko

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The guys had their Fantasy Baseball draft over the weekend. Do they like their teams? Who made the worst pick? Who had the worst draft? March Madness is down to the Sweet 16. How are the brackets looking? We look back at the best moments so far, including Nebraska into the Sweet 16 for the 1st time. The World Baseball Classic ended with Team USA winning silver. What did you think of the whole tournament? Want to see this instead of the All Star game? Will this event become a major sporting event? We finally get back to some NBA talk. Bam Adebayo had the 2nd most points in an NBA game. Impressed? Will you remember where you were when this happened? Do Bam and Miami deserve as much heat they are getting for how he got to 83? We also finally get back to movie talk! The Oscars just happened. Did you watch? Do you even know about half the movies up for Best Picture? Elijah Wood is a DJ and hosting a Lord of the Rings Themed Disco Rave. What other movie star would we like to see DJ as their character? Another Florida story to talk about. A woman caught peeing throughout different rooms in multiple AirBnb's. Good thing we don't know anyone who has done this, right?

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SPEAKER_01

What's up everybody? Thanks for tuning in to the Undrafted Overcompetent Podcast on a Monday, March 23rd, 2026. I'm Jason Semco. With me, Brandon Bigo Gordon. Hello, Semco. Hello. I mean, we're fishing in spring. And it's a it's beautiful weather. Gorgeous. Some of my plants we talked about in one of the very first episodes we did. I have kind of started re-sprouting. Yes, your your bushes. My hostas and a steel base.

SPEAKER_00

You love a good bush.

SPEAKER_01

Who does? Well, that's not that popular these days. No, no, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Turn of the century, turn of the bush.

SPEAKER_01

But everything is. We're talking about George Bush, right? Oh, I was talking about 1970s, 80s. Yeah, the shrubbery. The shrubbery. Yes. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

My bad. So your plants are growing. Your bushes. They are. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Small, but they're Are you trimming your bushes?

SPEAKER_00

Are you just letting them just go all out?

SPEAKER_01

When they get a little grow a little too much, they need to get trimmed. A little uh yeah, a little out of control. Gotta have them nice and tight. Yes. You know?

SPEAKER_00

You don't want an unkempt bush.

SPEAKER_01

No. It's it's hard to work with that. Yes. And it's it's unseemly.

SPEAKER_00

It is unseemly.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. It's unappealing, if you will. That's the word I was actually looking for.

SPEAKER_00

So is this what you did? You just gawked your bushes the entire weekend. Is that what your weekend was?

SPEAKER_01

Well, I kind of no, but I did kind of stand there from the living room looking out over there and be like, why is nothing growing? And just waiting and waiting. Because I spent all that money and didn't have to be a good thing. I know that is the worst. Especially when they're like, they're perennials.

SPEAKER_00

They're perennials. And you're like, are they perennials?

SPEAKER_01

So good signs. That made me happy. Alright. Little buddy. But no, since it was so nice out on Saturday, um two years ago for Christmas, I bought my wife and me like a his and her tennis racket.

SPEAKER_00

Ooh. Was it like it's like a by a gender by gender one side's for men, the other side's for women.

SPEAKER_01

It was just like a set of two. Oh, two. It was kind of like a because I've had I have like three rackets.

SPEAKER_00

Uh but I kind of Just in case you need to pull a C burn, break one.

SPEAKER_01

Well, of course. Yes. I got one that's already got a few dents in it, actually.

SPEAKER_00

This is your give me the dented one. I've got to release some tension.

SPEAKER_01

But no, it was more of one of those like, I want to play tennis with you and start fresh, so I'll have my own racket. Um so we finally actually, like a year and a half later, got around to using them. Getting out and playing. All right. Uh, and that was really good. Uh, I will say, she my wife was a lot better than I thought. Okay. Didn't have me running ragged everywhere. Um, but no, it was good, it was fun. But one of the best parts was afterwards, you know, we played for like an hour and it was tiring. Um they were playing pickleball right across, basically right across on another court, and there were so many, there were like four games going on, and I mean, all you heard was the bing, bing bing, bing, bing, bing. So my wife was like, well, let's kind of like watch them play, and it was great because it was all skill levels. I mean, you had beginners playing that were just, you know, might as well have had like a drink in their hand, like could have cared less. Yeah. But then you had some of these guys. I mean, they are they're like wailing it at the women. It was like a co-ed, like doubles, and there's no whole bar. I mean, these guys are serving with like crazy spins and hitting it, like basically I learned kind of like hitting it either like in between the partners or like at someone's feet. So it's like they kind of mishit it. I mean, they're gonna like maybe hit you in the stomach, maybe hit the guys where they don't want to be hit, but it they're they're hitting it hard. Um, but I did want to say we were standing there for like a few minutes, and these two guys came up and were like, Oh, do you wanna like you guys wanna play? And I was like, Well, we just played tennis, like I think we're tired, we're good. And my wife was like, Well, speak for yourself, but I would like to play. Okay, so we went down there, and these two guys were super nice. They actually taught us the rules. Um everyone had even like packed up and went home, but they stayed there and we actually like simulated a game and got to play like a whole thing. Um, but I think pickleball might be where we lean towards.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you got sucked into the cult, the pickleball cults.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, it was. Oh, they were definitely throwing we're having this event in April, and we want all these members, and we do this, this, and this. Would love to have you. I mean, they were definitely throwing their reminded me of like the home and garden show. Like this, they were bringing that sales pitch out.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's like they just give us your phone number and your email. You know, we won't be sending you, I promise it's not marketing or you know, it'll all be informational, and then you're gonna your email's gonna blow up with 20 pickleballs.

SPEAKER_01

They mentioned a few times that it was like, oh, we send a newsletter once a week.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god. No, thank you. So we don't much changes in pickleball, my friend. I don't need an update every week.

SPEAKER_01

Well, a lot of them are a little older, retired, so not much else going on.

SPEAKER_00

That's true. They're like who emails are jammed, you say I send you my joke of the week while I'm doing it too.

SPEAKER_01

That's probably what I would expect to get on like a daily basis, some just random Right, pickleball adjacent joke. Here's a video that I saw on pickleball and how to use the proper forms.

SPEAKER_00

It's like emailing. No, you don't use pickles when you play pickleball. Like, easy, grandpa. But no, okay, boomer. I can say that. I'm not a boomer. Not yet.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. We're gonna get close to that age, though. Well, they're gonna call us uh millennials. Are they gonna call us just millennials or have some slang words?

SPEAKER_00

They'll have a slang word. It'll be like millies, okay, millies, or uh something less cool.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. But you know, I always like to we always like to kind of shout out like when people are kind of nice.

SPEAKER_00

Because we're usually pretty mean.

SPEAKER_01

Well, usually as well as people around us. A greater good out there.

SPEAKER_00

There's there is some good out there.

SPEAKER_01

I kind of felt like I was like, man, maybe I need to be nicer because these two guys went way out of their way. And I'm like, I don't I would never do this for anybody.

SPEAKER_00

You would purposely not make eye oh, those people are like, don't make eye contact. Yes. Like just walk past them. These weirdos, they'll leave after a while. Get your purse tied up against your body because those old fogies are probably trying to rob you right now.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Well, you still had more exciting uh weekend than I did, man, because my weekend was it your your weekend last weekend where it was just adulting. I spent a good portion of both days just power washing and then restaining my front and my back porches.

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah, that is awful.

SPEAKER_00

Because it was like, but this was the time. Yep. You know, and I'm lucky we got it in because it got in right the pollen came down crazy today. Yes. And if I had waited, oh my god, it would have been a freaking nightmare.

SPEAKER_01

Good on you for getting it done.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, got the white trim, got the the the deep browns on the on the planks. Nice. Looks brand new. Lasts maybe three months, and I'm gonna have to do it all over again. The staining? Yeah, I know. It's like the stain says it's like a six-year warranty. I was like, I need to call BS on this warranty. I mean, I it's not the whole thing, but I have to do touch-ups every now and then. But I also think it's because I have two kids, you know, just like dragging all their toys across it and then splashing water everywhere and just letting it sit.

SPEAKER_01

So I think it's more like three years, which we're kind of up on that. I might let it try to go till next year. Yeah. But the power washing, we gotta do that too, and I'm not looking forward to that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so it was full adulting. It was uh two play dates for the kiddos, okay, staining, and then where I could, I eked out some some basketball watching, because whole boy, was there some good bee ball watching over there?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, absolutely was.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, yeah, it's it's depressing because it can you feel like it can only do it, go downhill from here because it was just so white knuckle on so many different games, which we'll get into.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But uh other white knuckling for me was well that we can get into that too, but um, you know, we also passed by St. Patrick's Day. We did? Yeah, and I feel like St. Patrick's Day, much like a lot of these holidays, holidays, if you will, have passed us by. Oh, absolutely.

unknown

St.

SPEAKER_00

Patrick's Day is Singodomile, my daughter was born on Singodomile.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00

So we'll have a different celebration. Much different celebration. But did you do anything to celebrate St. Patrick's Day?

SPEAKER_01

No, I don't I might have said this on the last episode, I can't remember, but we were looking at going down to a certain part of town that just has a lot of like restaurants, um, shops and stuff, and they were throwing kind of like a on the street, like a festival with music and all that. And once we realized that it basically is just gonna be 20-something year olds getting drunk outside like we kind of used to do, yeah. We were like, well, we're not going to die.

SPEAKER_00

Again, it's it's past we're past that point in our lives. Yeah, that does not increase my joy going and seeing people just debaucher you. This is their time. It is we've been there, we've we've experienced that, but I don't enjoy that scene quite the way I used to.

SPEAKER_01

There was a part of me that wanted to maybe do some people watching.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And just kind of see like a safe distance, you're like on a uh restaurant balcony, you're like, okay, I'll look from way up here. Exactly. Because it's there's some of that where, you know, I actually did read something the other day that, you know, k uh people are drinking almost as much as when we were younger. Yeah. They just do it, they don't do it late into the night. They do it more during the day. Yeah, so they can get a good night's sleep. Exactly. They are more a little more health conscious, but they're still not much because they're just drinking throughout the whole day and like ruining the whole drink.

SPEAKER_00

Instead of just cramming it into a few late night hours.

SPEAKER_01

But it seems like they they come across as thinking that they're like, you know, better and don't get like, you know, stupid, drunk. So part of me wants to see like how different is it, and it probably isn't any different. It's not.

SPEAKER_00

I can I can tell you from personal experience, it's not. Like, because uh Jimbo and I, uh Jimbo surprised me for my birthday, it was my 40th, and uh we went to see the Packers play the Commanders.

SPEAKER_01

That's right, up in Green Bay.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but on the way back, because our flight was flying out of Chicago, we took a train in Chicago, and for that night, we uh we went out and we're like, hey, let's go like you know check things out, and let's you know, we were right in the heart of Chicago, so like I guess northwestern, the the campus is like right there. And we just so happened to be there because it was a Thursday night, came there for a Friday night. It was a group of these bars, and immediately I walk in the door and I'm like, I am way too old to be in this place. I was like, I feel like I want to go up to I was like, put some clothes on, or I'm or I'd be like, Where's your father? But then I'll never forget we went and we watched Second City, you know, the the improv group in Chicago. So we would do like last minute we just popped in there and then we went to a bar right across the street, and I was just literally this is going back to your oh they they think they're better than us, they don't get like sobby. I was literally Jimbo can batch me for this. I was literally standing, just doing nothing, standing at a bar, and this guy approaches uh Jimbo and I just starts talking to me, and I'm not even looking at him, I'm like staring off in the distance, and he just turns to me and he's like, Hey, you got a problem? And I was like, I don't I don't think I have a problem.

unknown

Oh no.

SPEAKER_00

And he's like, he's like, Well, what's with that look on your face? I was like, This is my face. I don't I don't know what you want from me. And I was like, uh I look at Jimbo, I was like, come on, is this really happening? I was like, dude, I'm minding my own business. And then of course he's like, it's like you don't look like you belong here. Like, where are you from? And I was like, we're not doing this. We're not doing this. I was like, I'm minding my business, and then of course, what happens? 20 minutes later, of course, Jimbo's just smoothing it out because I was like, I'm not even talking to this dude. I don't even want to talk to this guy. 20 minutes later, what's happening? He's buying me a freaking shot.

SPEAKER_01

Of course, of course, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Buy guns, beat by guns. He's like, hey man, I just you know, you were looking at me weird. I was like, I wasn't even looking at you, dude. And he's like, let me buy your shot. I don't want a shot. So the only way I could get rid of this guy, I was like, fine. Oh my god. Give me the freaking shot and go away.

SPEAKER_01

Nothing has changed. You're right, nothing. That's that's a story that happened every other weekend, and everyone knew had either had a friend that was like that that would always just kind of pick a fight at just the smallest thing or know somebody when they went out and be like, oh my god, he's here. Like, how long before he starts getting out of here?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, when's this when's the ball gonna drop on this one? Oh my god. So, yeah, no, you're not better than us. Uh what are they what do they call themselves Gen Zers? Yeah, I think so. You're not better than us, you're just younger. And you'll learn when you see the next crop come up that hey, we did the same thing, we just did it a little bit differently. Yeah. But yeah, so no St. Patrick's Day celebration for me either. Here's my St. Patrick's Day. I bought a six-pack of Guinness. I played some flogging Molly. Okay. And and I talked like this for the rest of the day. And my wife, she couldn't stand it. She's like, What are you doing? Well, she didn't say it's like, what are you doing? I was like, ah, come on, give me a kiss. Kiss me, Blarney Stone. Let's have some potatoes. And call it a nice.

SPEAKER_01

That's one of your best accents.

SPEAKER_00

It's pretty good. I I do like my Irish accent.

SPEAKER_01

Your your wife doesn't seem to like any accent you ever do.

SPEAKER_00

Well, it's like the problem is that when I know it bothers her, those are the ones I really practice. Yeah. Like the Boston. My Boston's not good. I gotta work on my Boston. But uh my Irish is on point too.

SPEAKER_01

That is on point.

SPEAKER_00

You know, the other thing that helped me out was uh Seabare and I we had an Irish, I think it was an econ professor in college. Okay. And it definitely slipped out. I feel like we were doing a little bit of day drinking or something. We went to that class. Yeah. And I was like, I started doing this and he's like, what are you doing? I was like, I can't help myself. I was like, oh, how many potatoes in this sack? You know, they're known for more than potatoes. Yeah, well, they got the potato famine and then they got the the Guinness, had a Irish whiskey. That is about all they got. And they got the hooligans. And they got the And they got the Peaky Blinders. Is Peaky Blinders Irish? You don't even you don't have Netflix, so you don't even know what Peaky Blinders is.

SPEAKER_01

No, I I tried to watch a couple episodes. I couldn't understand anything they were saying. You need me to dumb down the translation. I do I do like uh I think Peaky Blinders is Irish. Cillian Murphy. Yeah. Yeah. Or is it Kellian Murphy? Killian Murphy. Killian. Cillian. Killian. Okay. Killian. You said Celia in this time.

SPEAKER_00

I know. I know what I said. Okay. Tom Hardy has a quick spot in that. Just for a little bit. Yeah. He's got a little peak in there. That's about it. Peak on Peaky Blinders. Peak on Peaky Blinders. I like what you do there. Yeah. But yeah, so uh St. Patrick's Day is a wash. I'm sure we have plenty of St. Patrick's Day stories that we could share. Um next year, I'll mention about remember were you part of the crew that we went to those concerts in DC, the St. Patrick's Day concerts? No. I've heard a couple of those kind of stories. You did the uh the sh uh the Shamrock Marathon, or have you?

SPEAKER_01

I've done a I've done uh I think I've done one of those, but not when I was younger. It was like just a few years ago, actually. Oh, really? Okay. Is that down at Virginia Beach? It was. Okay. Yeah. It's a fun, nice flat course. You can go for like records if you want there. Yeah. But I had a good time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So that's where I should do my first.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Well, you've well, your second. Yeah, yeah. Well, my first marathon. No, we're not talking about a marathon. Oh, half. You're just gonna do a half.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I already peaked. I don't even know what my PR was so fast.

SPEAKER_01

We'll look it up. Yeah. We'll post it.

SPEAKER_00

But I was proud of my Chicago marathon, obviously. I'm proud of something else that happened over the weekend, my friend. And uh I don't know if you are, but uh we'll be quick because outside of our inner circle, this means next to nothing, but God, it means so much to us. But we just completed our fantasy baseball draft, man. Exciting times. Again, by far my favorite draft.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

Of all the drafts that we do. Um, just because I don't know, uh there's so much to it. You know, you you're so many different positions that you're kind of filling in, the roster's far deeper. Uh you have to do some research, or else going into we talked about this, going in like the 14th round, you're like, I have no idea what to do here. You really have to come up with like a game plan. So uh so let's talk about your game plan. What you decided to do, Semco. I don't know. But give you a little bit of background. Our friend Will Billy, uh, every year he's he's just uh a pitcher fiend. He only wants pitchers and he will spend his first 10 picks in this draft. Keep in mind, for all of you baseball savants or non-sevants, there are nine positions you have to fill on the batting side. And he chooses his first ten picks to be all pitchers. Correct. So that's your lead in there, Sacco.

SPEAKER_01

Well, so I all this talk about the fantasy baseball and all this talk about how I draft hitters all the time. Will Billy does pitchers. I thought it might be kind of fun if we kind of maybe switched our roles. And I only honestly did it because I I think couple people have been like, why? Yeah, not not everyone. Everyone is why because you instigated this. Well, I thought it'd be kind of I mean, it thought it'd be kind of funny, kind of fun. It'd be something different. Definitely different. It was definitely different, and boy, I was not prepared for it. Uh but no, the main reason was I the pitchers were always completely devalued, not to get like we're not gonna take so much time, but the way that we used to score pitchers, a complete game no one gets, that was nothing. Ah, dude, I got like two CGs left. Yeah, that's it. Okay, so everyone ties, so already the hitters have an advantage. Then when you have holds and saves separate, you gotta have you gotta just load up on one and probably beat Will. So you're already tying one and losing one. Plus wins. You don't get, I mean, Paul Skeens is great, he gets like 10 wins a year. Because he's on a poopy team. Because he's on a poopy team. So the pitching was so devalued, but now we changed a bunch of the rules and it valued the pitchers a lot more than before. A lot more than before. Not to the point of I think doing what I did, but I also I don't know. I thought it would just be kind of uh it's good fodder. I thought it'd be fun to try.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, and so you so again, you decided to switch roles with Will Bill, and you're like, you know what? The first was it 10 rounds? Did you make it 10 rounds?

SPEAKER_01

I told, so this is what happened. I told Will I would go at least eight, and I told him that so there are three top quality pitchers that were typically going in the first round. I told Will, if I'm at the end of the first round and those three pitchers are taken, I'm taking a hitter. Okay. But then I will draft eight rounds still of pitchers.

SPEAKER_00

But luckily for you, oh my god. Luckily for you, okay the word got out that you were going to do this all pitchers move, and miraculously, you miraculously, you got the first overall pick. Congratulations.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. There's it's one of two things. Okay. Dwight, you absolutely can control who has the first overall pick. There's no doubt about it now. You and your butt buddy Chris, it's always why he got the first pick all the time. You guys go to your stupid WWE Royal Rumbles together. You have to turn out rumbles that go on under the first. Rumble after the rumble. Exactly. I don't so that's why Chris always gets the first pick. Now you hear this that I'm gonna have to pick pitcher. Guess who? After years of bitching about not getting a top pick.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I get first. Well, not only that, but this is the top three order. Top three order when he knows that you're out of your comfort zone because you're pitching picking pitchers. Willbilly's out of his comfort zone because he's got to pick a hitter. You first, will Billy second, Dwight third.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I mean, it couldn't have been any more perfect for everybody.

SPEAKER_00

Any more obvious. Like, I've never been more confident of collusion in my life. Yes, no doubt. There is no doubt about that. Like, there's there's just too coincidental. It just has to be. I'm gonna purposely create a Yahoo League just to see as a commissioner if I can control the draft. I thought about doing that, too. Just to prove this. Yes. But I mean, uh DW is an IT doorkeeper, even if it isn't, he probably has some kind of algorithm that can like manipulate the draft or we know your schemes, DW. Well played, though. I mean But man, yeah, like uh I don't even have to guess how you enjoy the draft because you've already changed your team name. What's your new team name, man? Uh I hate this team. I hate my team. So I'm guessing you're not a not a fan of Will Billy's draft strategy. No.

SPEAKER_01

No, for two reasons. One, there just aren't any really good hitters left after round eight. But also, I will say, I'll give credit to a lot of our uh friends in the that were there for the draft. Uh I think David Berry, the only one that was auto-drafting. Uh, you know, a lot of the guys I had targeted this because this is what I would do when I picked all my hitters early. I'd have one guy later in the draft that I'm like, you know what? I'll just grab like four rounds earlier than I expect. Yeah. So each one of you all, and there's a couple that did it more often than not, just kind of grabbed and grabbed and grabbed, and I was like, oh, I was gonna get him in two rounds. I was gonna get him next round. Oh, what am I gonna do now?

SPEAKER_00

Well, and this is what happens when you corner the market of a position, even if they're not doing it out of spite, but they're like, Okay, I know J Bear's gonna take a picture, so if I want a pitcher, I gotta take one now. It's true, yeah. So that's the problem, that's the other problem that you have with this this this model, and we'll be again your model. I don't know, but because you felt, and I I appreciate you committing to the bit. I appreciate it. I did, but I couldn't I never would have been able to do it. I would have been like, absolutely not. Even if I if I said I was gonna do it after three rounds, I'm like, I'm done. I can't do it anymore. Like I I am panicking on my team right now.

SPEAKER_01

I was actually very happy with my pitchers until I got kind of towards the round seven and eight. I did not like those pitchers that I got, but the rest I was like I I think I have a really good rotation. Like this could actually kind of work. Yeah. And then I got to the hitters and realized, oh, this team sucks.

SPEAKER_00

Your first, like, your for your first hitter that you picked in round nine was a second baseman He was the Nico Horner. He was Nico Horner is your first bat.

SPEAKER_01

He was the one guy. I think no, he was one of like the two or three I said I think is overvalued. You're like, I have no choice. I well, I figured there's no good power hitters, so let me get like hits and steals. There you go. Who better than Nico Horner to steal?

SPEAKER_00

You know, and that's what Willbill used to do.

SPEAKER_01

He would go for pitching and then hits and steals. That was his bread and butter. So Chandler Simpson come on over. Yeah. And then I've got another guy coming over to the squad. Not if I get there first. I've already but the trade's been accepted.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, that guy, yes. Yes. Well, it hasn't it could get vetoed still. I told you, I was like, maybe I save you from yourself, and maybe I vetoed.

SPEAKER_01

I swear, you guys veto that trade. I I I'm gonna say this, and you guys are actually kind of starting to piss me off. Look, I think we're all really pretty smart. The way that you all think about trades uh is beyond me. It's either I can't believe this. Every time there's a trade, you know, every time that like Dwight gets like Chris or Darkness drunk and takes advantage of them and then tries to do a and then tries to take advantage of them. It's like I can't believe this. Everybody sits there and vetoes when it's a first-round superstar for multiple players. That's an automatic veto in our league. Everyone I talk to is now sitting there. I'm trading Tarek Scubol for Ely Day La Cruz. Let me get to why, for my reasoning, this is fine in a second. If I try to trade Tarek Scubol for two like fourth and fifth round hitters, you all would be vetoed. That would have been vetoed by now. But all of a sudden you're saying, how could you do that? What you need to get more hitters. You veto those trades all the time. Here's my point with what I'm gonna say is why I did it. I told you, I just let it off by saying that I was going to pick a hitter if the three pitchers were taken. So guess what? I just got with the 12th overall pick Ely de la Cruz. Because let's pretend that I then didn't have the first overall pick, and I got a guy that's going like fifth or sixth. Okay. So I actually made out, and I love my other pitchers. So I actually make out just fine in this trade.

SPEAKER_00

Well, here's here's the I I I agree with it, I agree with you in theory, but here's the other two things that I want to uh take off. One, I think you're right because I always devalue pitchers. I could see Scuba blowing out his elbow, and then you're a genius for this draft or for this trade. But secondly, it's like you got a guy that is horny for pitchers, and Will Billy, why didn't you ask for Rotani or something like that? Funny you asked that, Brandon. Let's chat.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. He knows I don't have any hitters. Or he knows that I don't have any hitters. I offer that. Oh, you did offer that? I offered that. Oh, okay. Yeah, I'm sorry, Will Billy. Uh he came back with he wanted the first hitter I took. So you wanted Nico too? And they still wanted to send me a picture. I'm like, dude, I'm doing this because I need hitters. I'm not trying to give up the first hitter that I pick. I'm doing this to add a hitter to my already crappy lineup. I can't give away another hitter.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know. The substance so it would have been Nico and Tarek for Otani?

SPEAKER_01

Otani and uh I think he threw in like uh Shane Bieber.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, you'd be a believer.

SPEAKER_01

But I just was like, yeah, buddy, I uh and that's the thing why I took the trade too, is because most people devalue the pitcher over a hitter. It's hard to get that one in one. Yeah, but Otani. I know you would have had another Nico. I understand what you're saying. I mean, then it was like literally but then it was literally Otani and no one else. That wouldn't it's I mean, Nico's not much better, but I thought about it. But with Horner, Simpson, and now De La Cruz, I probably have steals, and actually, I kind of like some of the pickups I've made. Okay, but yeah, I love the company. But y'all are really pissing me off with these trades because one, and for you, sir, stand across from me. Whoa. You veto everything. I don't the only way that you won't veto a trade is if it's with Jimbo, or if you think you're going to absolutely pull one over on somebody, like massively. Like, there can't, everyone needs to sit there and be like, well, it needs to be like a super fair trade for both. Hey, guess what? Sometimes, some teams they have to sit there and say, I'm in a weaker position. I need something, so I'm gonna have to give up more to maybe make my team better somewhere else.

SPEAKER_00

Alright, listen, I gotta I gotta bone to pick with this because I don't know who decided to crown me king of veto island, thinking that I like I'm king of Veto Island.

SPEAKER_01

I can see who vetoes every trade.

SPEAKER_00

So what? And you I'm one of how many people have to veto a trade for to like get denied? Why am I always the one that's getting blamed for this?

SPEAKER_01

Because I think you're on every single veto. Like, even if it doesn't go through, or if the trade does go through, I think it still shows who vetoes, and you are apparently you are always on the veto.

SPEAKER_00

I've always I'm very like, maybe it's just I I'm very anti-uh trade for some reason. I don't know. It's like I and I understand that I'm being a hypocrite because I traded with Jimbo in football last year. That's because I was taking advantage of him.

SPEAKER_01

But um, but uh Jimbo let it happen.

SPEAKER_00

You're the same as Dwight and Jim. Jimbo is backed in a corner, and uh, to be honest with you, it really didn't work out well for me. Justin Jefferson did nothing for me. It's true. Nothing. So it really didn't matter. It just so happened to screw him because uh I gave him Tyreek Hill and he broke himself the next game, and I gave him Benson, who was out on I.O. for the entire rest of the year, pretty much. So he just got sort of injuries happen. You can't really help him. No, that's it. If they had played out, I'd think it would have been a fair trade. But I digress. We're getting off topic. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So let's get back to fantasy baseball. Uh it was so entertaining for me to watch this draft unfold, and I was texting you in between. You're like, oh my god, I can't believe this. This is just a nightmare, and I don't know what to do with myself. And uh, you know, a couple other guys were texting me, like, is he actually doing this? I was like, yes, he's doing this. He said it. He commits, he's gonna do it. I did. Um, but um, let's let's try and find the silver line for you, my friend. So let's go. What do you like? Or do you oh I already know the first question? Do you like your team? Absolutely not. But why don't you give me at least your favorite pick and maybe your sleeper pick on your team?

SPEAKER_01

I think my my favorite my favorite pick.

SPEAKER_00

You have to pick one. You can't pick Scuba because it got you, Ellie. You gotta pick somebody you actually still have on your team.

SPEAKER_01

My favorite pick, which is probably one of my last pick. Um I think Jonathan Aranda is gonna be like a top 100 player. Okay, alright. Like I he got hurt last year, but he, for what I'm looking for, contact, decent art. I I think he's gonna be a great value, honestly. Um after that, I got nothing, man.

SPEAKER_00

So you got Aronda in round 17.

SPEAKER_01

I'm I'm gonna be looking at how well because I had a chance to get away.

SPEAKER_00

So Ronda said you could say you're I I'll give you this favorite pick and sleeper pick. Is he the same guy? You got one guy you're gonna pick off your team that you like. I think you can say your favorite pick was getting your boy Mike Trout. You got Trout back on your team.

SPEAKER_01

Dude, he's not gonna do anything.

SPEAKER_00

I'm just Then why did you pick him up? Did you see who else is out there?

SPEAKER_01

I needed some guy that's got a chance at hitting like 30 home runs.

SPEAKER_00

You got a guy in your boy Brian Reynolds, he's still on the pirates at least.

SPEAKER_01

Someone took him. No, after Trout. I'm looking at it right now. Oh, did they? Well, I needed more power. What power? Need the power. I am gonna be looking at uh Brian Wu, though, because I as I didn't take Hunter Brown.

SPEAKER_00

I know, and I'm bitter. I wanted Hunter. I know you did. And I knew once he fell, I just I was like, well, I'm going in a different direction. Because I think after he did what did he do?

SPEAKER_01

I was gonna take Logan Webb if you didn't take him.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I had to. I he I was like, this is the last ace ace that I really can't have. I was like, I have to take him, I have no choice. So yeah, um, I like the Logan Webb pick, but if I have to pick my favorite pick um and my sleeper pick, two different people, but same mindset, it's the bounce back. And my favorite pick that I had. Oh, here it comes. I love jazz. I love that I got jazz in the second round. I think it's gonna be great. But my favorite pick was Austin Riley. I love my Austin Riley pick. I know what he's capable of, and I got him in what, the sixth round, I think.

SPEAKER_01

For a third base, yeah, because after that it kind of drops off a lot.

SPEAKER_00

Huge, huge drop-off in that position. So I got two third base potentials that could win me. I got him in the fifth round. Austin Riley in the fifth round. Um, and then my sleeper pick is your boy, bounce back, Matt McLean. I'm so mad you picked him. So mad. Matt McLean. He's hit like seven home runs. Seven home runs in grapefruit. He's battened in the two spot in that lineup, which is gonna be that red's lineup is gonna be surprisingly good. He was playing in a hitter ballpark.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah. Yes.

SPEAKER_00

You got you were gonna get your own bounce back, you're gonna get your own rebound. Yes, I'm yes, I was padding my stats. That's my triple double right there. But you know, uh two, you know, um infield scarce, especially in those two positions, second base and third base, and I think I've got and I'm not even talking about jazz. I've been I'm so stoked about both of those positions that I was super stressed about going into the draft because I did not like it was two or three, maybe four at the top, and then it just cratered after that.

SPEAKER_01

So I'm I'm thrilled. As I was looking a lot more in like the second round, I was realizing, you know, because I was hoping to get like maybe like Schwarber, but I was like, man, jazz at a second baseman, you're not gonna find anything like that.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, he got 30-30 last year. Yep. And he's sleep for a lot of it. If he gets me 25-25, I'll be stoked at second base. I would too. So that was uh those are that's my favorite and my sleeper that I was a huge fan of. We won't go through every pick because we're born anybody, but I got Riley in the fifth, and I got McLean. When did I get McLean? It was like the 18th round. Yeah. Well, maybe sooner than that.

SPEAKER_01

I feel like you kind of I kind of jumped at him?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, a little bit.

SPEAKER_01

Which is what everyone kind of did. Which I'm which I like. I like that the people were kind of doing their own research.

SPEAKER_00

Got him in the 15th round, yes.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it didn't go just like chalky with like the rankings. Okay, I'm gonna go with this game.

SPEAKER_01

That's kind of what I was hoping would happen, or people would start auto-drafting, but we're gonna age where no one's like hammer drunk by the time like the 12th round hits. Well, not no one. Well, not no one.

SPEAKER_00

I'm pretty sure there's one or two.

SPEAKER_01

You can always tell when uh they've got uh like six batters and no bench in their pitchers. Yeah, you're like, oh, you auto-drafted at the end of this thing, didn't you?

SPEAKER_00

Alright, well, uh going into this, let's find out who you think didn't auto draft. Who you who of all of our buddies, who do you think had the best draft?

SPEAKER_01

It does pain me to say I think you had a really good draft. I really do. We were like talking, and the guys you were like looking at getting, I was like, Yeah, I would look at them as well. Um, so I I do hate to have to admit that.

SPEAKER_00

Well, thank you, sir. I love hearing it. Um, your hate sustains me, it nourishes me. So I appreciate um the love. So you got me as the best uh draft. They don't give scores on the fantasy baseball, but you're gonna give me the A on the on the draft. I might give you like a B.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know if any I don't know if anyone completely like hit it out of the ballpark. I feel like you know, Nate Dogg's team is gonna be good, but there's a few question marks on the phone.

SPEAKER_00

You got me there. That's who I had as the best pick of the draft. Yeah. I love Nate Dogg's draft. Um he's got a um combination of tenured guys that you know what you're gonna get out of them, and you got some potential. The Sal Stewart pick for the the Reds. I mean, he could be his best pick if he actually shores up and shows out. I know. Um but he's got my boy Bobby Witt. He's got three royals on his Caglione and Vinny. I know. He's got the Italians, Italiano. I didn't realize Nate Dogg was Italian.

SPEAKER_01

He kind of looks Italian.

SPEAKER_00

Does he? A little. I think he's well. We know the first time I met. It's tough to figure out what he Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, you know the first thing I thought it was great because the first time I met Nate Dog was when I was living right next door to his future wife, Amanda, when we were in the University Suites. Shout out, University Suites, what a great place to live. Good poll. Right? Um, and the first time I met him, we were over there for uh a get together. Okay, and um somebody broke a plate and he just went opa! Really? And then we just turned into smashing plates and just saying opa for no reason. So I was like, this guy's Greek. It must be. I have no idea. But his name, last name's Charette. I think he's French. Yeah, I think so too. So we Italian Greek with French. Alright, Nadog, there you go. A little shadow. Now we gotta get Nadal this in the pod. I don't think this is the pod.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I don't think so either.

SPEAKER_00

Alright. So enough praising him, but I like his uh I like his bats. He stole a couple of uh pictures that I was on. He stole Vesia, I wanted that relief pitcher. He stole uh Bubba Chandler. I thought I had a little bit more time to grab him. He he grabs a lot of guys early. He wants him, he wants them, and then Jimbo's already told me that he wanted uh uh Schlitler, not Schlitler for the Yankees. And uh he's like, oh Nate Dog took him. So um I like his potential, and Nate Dog always comes out, and he's got a guy playing catcher that plays first base half of the time, Ben Rice.

SPEAKER_01

I know. I knew that was that's such a Nate Dog pick. I knew he was probably gonna reach for him. I wasn't even gonna bother if I was drafting hitters going after Ben Rice, because I knew that Nate Dog would probably jump a round or two up to get him for that. And he sure did, which generally pays off in the end for him. So yeah, good on you. I can't believe you didn't get Gavin Williams. Uh you always jump to get him every year. Yeah. Uh someone else must have jumped to get him.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, Leafrogged over him to get Gavin. My goodness. Alright, well, we got over the best drafts. Who made the worst pick of the draft? Or is there more than one?

SPEAKER_01

So I I got one guy that I think had the worst pick, but then there's another guy I think had like four bad picks. Okay. And I I I for once don't like his team. For once, oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you were talking about this guy.

SPEAKER_01

But the worst overall pick, uh, ill will, I love ya. Uh Bo Bachet 38th. We don't have average anymore. It's just hits. He's just gonna get you a lot of hits, man, and maybe some runs, but he don't really steal bases. I mean, the Mets do like to steal, but I don't know. 38th with no real power. Yeah. That's you maybe could have gotten something with a little bit more pop in it.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, you look at the people around Bo that he could have gotten. And um, yeah, you're just like, I I mean, I don't I don't understand it. It's like Jordan Alvarez went right behind him. Uh Brown went right behind him. Yeah. Roman Anthony, who Nate Dog got. Yeah. Who everybody's just gog over. Heck, I would have even taken Rafi Devers over Bo.

SPEAKER_01

He was that Rafi Devers was going, I mean, that's where he was kind of getting picked. Uh, but yeah, that's a power-hitting first baseman that could still hit like 270, but give you 30 plus homers and like a hundred RBIs, and Bichette will hit you like maybe 20 if you're lucky, and get like maybe 70 RBI.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Yeah. Um but you said, okay, so that's your worst favorite driver, but you seem to think that there's a s a single manager, if you will, yes, that had multiple terrible picks.

SPEAKER_01

You know, I mean, I love the team name, it's great. Um, makes me chuckle every time I I see it. Okay. Uh Jimbo and the Jaws Rules fan club. Hey, look, buddy, you know, look, I'm I'm gonna throw this out there. So look, there's only like four free sites that you can find like sleepers on. So good job going way up and getting Soderstrom, Kearshaw, like Taylor Ward. We all saw Taylor Ward got me going last year. You just went up and grabbed them before anyone else could. I think you reached on just about everybody. Pete Crow Armstrong. Yeah, I don't like it. I hope you just want the Steals because the guy can't really hit. I think they figured him out.

SPEAKER_00

Halfway through the season, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So And Junior Camanero, you got him last year in like the eighth or ninth round. I mean, who's gonna be your eighth or ninth round? I don't know, man. I I think you I think you just saw the sleepers from RotoWire and from Fantasy Pros, and just said, I gotta reach and get these guys. So, yeah, terrible draft, my friends. Oh, wow, wow, shots fired. Yeah, and you know, Ryan Peppio, uh he's like terrible pitch. Is that how you pronounce his name? Peppio? I don't know. Who cares? Peapot, Peapot. I just come over like Mr. Peapot. Peapot. So, yeah, uh, not great in the draft. Uh, Fernando Cruz for the Yankees. I mean, he's gonna get you a good uh what is it, K's pranine innings, but he's not gonna get you any saves. He's really not gonna get you that many holds. I don't even know if he's an eighth inning guy, but you got you you're a slave to the stats on this one, my friend.

SPEAKER_00

I can't I can't wait till I play you. All right. So let's get the popcorn ready. Yay. All right. All right. So those are, you know, valiant uh choices for the worst break of the draft. But I'm gonna give um uh a consolation prize first, and then I'll give you the actual worst way of the draft. Or the consolation prize sadly goes to you, my friends.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, it does.

SPEAKER_00

Um, but I give you a little bit of grace because you had no choice. And you're like, you're backed in the corner, you're like a wounded animal. You're backed in a corner, you just had to attack. Carlos Correa. No, not Carlos Correa because you dropped and you you came to your senses because you dropped him already. I hate the Chandler Simpson pick. I do. Like I can't stand Chandler Simpson, I can't stand sacrificing multiple home runs and RBIs, he's gonna get you nothing. He's gonna be a sieve for you. You're going for stone bases, and I get that. I don't even know if they're gonna have Chandler Simpson lead off. Are they having him lead off in the rays?

SPEAKER_01

I've seen that he he could be up there, yes.

SPEAKER_00

I feel like he could be there, he could be ninth. I mean, God, you never want a guy that's bat ninth.

SPEAKER_01

I think it depends on who's who's pitching, lefty or righty.

SPEAKER_00

But the reason I'll give you grace is because I knew what you were doing ahead of time, you had no choice, and because you got to win the 14th round. I mean, we talked about this 14th and back. You can add drop these guys, they mean nothing. Yeah, it's not the end of the world. You don't feel beholden to keep them on your team. So I'm gonna give you grace on this. Thanks. But um, worst pick of the draft, the guy that, you know, started it all and offered, you know, a shot for the person with the first words for the draft. I gotta give to DW. Jackson Merrill in round six, gross. This guy does nothing special. Nope. Like, you know, the you got him when you could have gotten, I think Nate Dog got Buxton in like round eight or nine. Same player. Same guy. George Springer was in round eight, same guy. Um, hell, I mean, I I would have even taken the potential of a of a Michael Harris bounce back over Merrill. Same guy. But I mean, yeah, you you got him in the sixth. I mean, that's just a reach beyond reach, especially in an in uh a high round, sixth round, man. That's that guy needs to do something for you. And you got a guy that's gonna be just a meh guy. I mean, the guy right behind him. This you had Riley Green on your team last year. This guy hit you 30 home runs and 100 RBIs. How did you not pick him?

SPEAKER_01

They play in an awful division. They're gonna just beat up and score runs on the worst division in baseball. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So yeah, I I hate that pick. So, you know, whip out the fighting cock, DW, and uh pour yourself one because that is the worst pick in the draft.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that is that that is definitely up there. I think we I think we zoned in on two really good ones.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I think we did. Well, you zoned in on a guy. Like Jimbo is just getting shrapnel left and right, just like getting the heat. Yeah, well, he deserves it after the comment he put in the what's at all. All right, so it's a little personal now. Very personal. Okay. All right. So, Jimbo, you're like, I know you didn't mean it, I know you were hurt. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings. I didn't mean it. So, Jimbo, get on your apology tour going right now.

SPEAKER_01

No, he doesn't have to apologize. He means it. He does mean it.

SPEAKER_00

And now he's gonna double down now that he's gonna know he's gotcha. I can't wait. That's what he does. Well, some people got gods, some people were the giddies, some of these were the guitors. Um, in March Madness, man, we got through the first weekend, and man, what a weekend it was. It never lasts. I mean, it never does, but I felt like even more so. Maybe it's just because I was more involved watching, but yeah, I mean, every day there was a game that went photo finish. Yep. You had, you know, looking at the map now, yes, we're we we don't we have one double-digit seed that made it to the Sweet 16, and I don't even know if you can count Texas as a really you went up against a one-man team in BYU, and we talked about how overranked Gonzaga was. You whoop-de-doo, you beat Gonzaga. You want to prove that you belong, beat Purdue. So, but you know, they are an 11th seed, so we do have one quote unquote Cinderella in there, but um, but man, so many games. Let's start out with our personal brackets, man. How you feeling? You had a few um dicey picks that didn't go your way, but no, they didn't.

SPEAKER_01

Thankfully, not many of them burned me.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, a lot of them were kind of like stop the bleeding, like you know, one and then you know, it kind of tails off. I I'm I think I'm looking great with my picks right now.

SPEAKER_01

Really? Great. Great's a strong word. I think Houston, Arizona, and Michigan look real good. I'm a little worried about Iowa state. I think Duke, you know, look, they took a scare and came out and whooped TCU. I know it's TCU, but hey, and an 8C did just beat a 1C. Oh man, we're gonna get to that. I know we're gonna get to that, but it's just you know, Duke made sure to like take care of business after getting that wake-up call. Um so yeah, I I feel good. Uh honestly, the one pick that I would want to take back is Texas. I said it, I think the very last thing I said when we talked about that dumpster fire of a part of that bracket was it's just like I could easily see Texas or NC State just because those teams are so damaged, and I really wanted to change it, and I I think I did in my work bracket, um, but I wanted to keep it what I had put here, but yeah, I kind of uh I kind of saw that one kind of gun. And just as they kept winning, I was like, oh my god, it is happening. But yeah, where are you uh how are you feeling? You are as we look at it, you have 46 points right now.

SPEAKER_00

That's right. I have 41. Yeah, it's nothing to set in stone. The points start the points totals get bigger, bigger every week.

SPEAKER_01

Your potential is uh highest you can score is 170. Mine is 165.

SPEAKER_00

But that's if we get every pick right. It is. It's not happening. No, it's something's gonna go wrong, and one of us is gonna be eating crow.

SPEAKER_01

But we're basically sitting kind of we're we're right, we're uh we're basically tied.

SPEAKER_00

I'm doing like kind of a reverse engineering, and I'm looking at who I have winning the whole thing, and then it's like, you know, tapering it back, and I feel good. Like, you know, Arizona's looked very strong, Houston has looked very strong. Like, you know, they've just been breezing through teams. Granted, they played Idaho and Texas AM. Not not exactly world beaters. No. Um, so with those two in the finals, I'll feel good. Um, Michigan State, you know, just just the the fighters that they are. Yeah. Um, but they're gonna have a fight because they're gonna have to go up against Yukon and then potentially Duke or St. John's. Neither are gonna be easy. So that one kind of worries me a little bit, that final four pick, but I trust in Tom Mizzo. You think he's gonna get it done. Fears has like the most assists in two games in like the history of the tourney. I think he's 27 through two games. That's great to see. That's your boy. You love Fears.

SPEAKER_01

I'm uh he's a one-man record crow.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Um, and then uh yeah, Purdue gets to go up against a Texas team. I am worried about Iowa State because I have them going in the Final Four, and they're they're they're one of their best players got hurt in the first round. Yeah, and he hasn't been back yet. So I am nervous about that because for the same reason why UCLA screwed me, because their number one player, I was like, he's gotta be back by now with this stupid knee to play Yukon. He wasn't, and you could argue that that could have been a whole different game if he was playing.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00

But uh without him, yeah, UCLA really tapered off on the tail end of that. So the biggest regret is probably not maybe looking at the entry report a little bit better and uh before picking uh UCLA. And then the other one is just uh like I got it hyped in the whole Cinderella, Cinderella. I picked Akron to go into the Sweet 16, and then man, they just did not look good against Texas Tech. Nothing near what I expected them to be. So I guess just getting into the hype of oh, upsits, upsets, this is a chalky bracket that we have here.

SPEAKER_01

I did I did pick the one 12 seed that's gonna be.

SPEAKER_00

You did pick the one game. They won one game. Yeah, well, it's easy when you pick all the 12 seeds.

SPEAKER_01

Hey, look, high point that I love that team. I almost wish I had watched them during the season. That is a fun team, and they gave Arkansas all they could handle.

SPEAKER_00

If Arkansas didn't have a lottery NBA pick at point guard to finish that game, which by the yeah, which by the way, a cuff, he just looks like an NBA star. Yeah. He just like the build and the composure, he can drive to the lane. He's got a little Derek Rose in him the way I saw him driving and just like weaving through. Not quite as quick, maybe not as this, but he's not fearful of it. He'll go down into the paint against a big, and then he he's got the the shot from from three, so he looks every bit. I would put him in my top three draft picks.

SPEAKER_01

I Darren Peterson by see ya like Sayanarisaka.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly what we thought was gonna happen, man. We talked about this. Well, he disappeared. It's like let's let's bounce over to that Saeach John's Kansas game really quickly. We're not gonna go through every game because we do not have the time, but um, that last play, the guy that won that game, he was 0 for 4 that entire game. 0 for 4 from downtown. Hadn't even attempted your boy Johnston from high point, just like him. Never even attempted a two-pointer in that game. And when he's driving down, Peterson's there. He doesn't help, he's a good defender. What are you doing? This is why everybody's worried about you because you disappear throughout the game sometimes.

SPEAKER_01

I just I look, I was so happy, apparently, you know, Dylan Darling, what a name to have. Uh the darling of the tournament. Oh yeah, oh my god.

SPEAKER_00

He's made one shot.

SPEAKER_01

But it's just like it's one of those where like these college kids, you know, like he just reminds me, remember like Aaron Kraft at Ohio State? I mean, he's just like hardly ever shot, but would hit like a big shot, and you're just but if you if you let him take the last shot and he missed and you went to overtime and you lost, like how many people would be sitting here though and saying that that was the stupidest call in history? Like the guy made it, I guess that's great, but I don't know, where do you sit on that? Like, do you ever sit like do you just say, well, he made it so it's good? You know, it's kind of like that famous like when Steph Curry goes like behind the back, through the legs, like makes Chris Paul almost fall over, and then like turns and shoots a three, and like Steve Kerr like has his hands on his head, like, what are you doing? And it goes in and he's like, I guess I can't say anything. Can't stay mad at him. But yeah, I just I was like, that's an I thought that was an awful play call, though. Like I of all the guys on your team to go with your last shot with the game on the line, why do you draw that up?

SPEAKER_00

Well, I think that that's kind of the genius of it, right? It's like they're not looking at Darling making that shot, right? And if you watch the play, all of them stay home. They don't come and help because they're like, no way this is the guy that's gonna make the last shot.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so in the NFL, it's third and eight. They run a ball. They run the ball.

SPEAKER_00

That's different.

SPEAKER_01

Well, is it though? You don't think they're gonna run it, so they run it because they're thinking you're not gonna run the ball.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah. How'd that work out for the Seahawks against the Patriots in the Super Bowl? You know, everybody thought they were gonna run it and they decided to pass it. What happened?

SPEAKER_01

Well, that okay, that was on a end goal. But no, it's just but that's what happens in the NFL is you see that happen, and then the guy gets like a two-yard gain, and the fans are like, Oh my god, why did he do that? But then when it works and they get like a 20-yard run, everyone sits there, you know, was there an armchair quarterback? Yeah, they sit there and say, Well, yeah, that's why you do it there because they weren't expecting it. And then literally, it could be 15 minutes later in real time, they do it again, and you're like ready to like fire the coach, fire the team, and it's like you just praised it 15 minutes ago.

SPEAKER_00

Welcome to the life of a head coach in college and professional sports. Like you have to live and die with these choices. It's true.

SPEAKER_01

You do, and you went with like a gut feeling, and it was a good I mean, it was a it was an okay play call. I don't know. I I just I I feel like you gotta get it to like your guy or run something different. But hey, I you know they saw something.

SPEAKER_00

The outcome, the outcome says they made the right choice there. But let's we've got a few games that we really want to harp on. Let's start by the the round that happened. Let's first go to that that UNC VCU game. Oh my god. We gotta gotta buy local. There's a local pride. Go Rams, go Rams, and did it again. I mean, they didn't go far, but hey, that first game was incredible. Down 19 points in the second half.

SPEAKER_01

It just looked like every single time you thought that VCU, and some of this is like the history of VCU in the tournament, right? But also just the game. They start, they hit like a three, they get like an and one. All of a sudden you're like, this is where they're gonna gain momentum. But UNC would come down every time and like answer and like quiet them. And it was just it kept going on. It was like they like literally got like within like one point less every minute, but it was still like 14 points with like 12 minutes to go. And then a guy from UNC, uh generally it was probably like the Henry Visir guy uh that would hit a dagger, but I will I want to say this so Henry Vasir, I get it. VCU was talking some trash, um, and you don't have you know, you're not used to being the guy, Caleb Wilson was that for you. But you know what, man? Look, you obviously were tired, the team was tired. This is just me taking a shot. This is gonna be me taking shots all day today. I'm not in a good mood. But every time you want to sit there and puff out your shirt, it's North Carolina, we're North Carolina. I don't know, man. VCU was like the second that we saw you getting tired, probably tired because you're puffing your chest out this whole time. They saw blood in the water and they took advantage of you, and you couldn't hit anything in the last six minutes. You couldn't hit anything in overtime. So maybe spend less time yelling, screaming, ah, letting the crowd know, hyping them up. I don't know. Maybe you could have used that in the last six minutes because you got tired, my guy.

SPEAKER_00

Uh OT, four seconds left. He went to the foul line, down two. That's right. He missed both free throws.

SPEAKER_01

He missed both. Yeah. Like I said, I mean, you you want to talk the talk and walk it, and you did for most of the game, but you kind of started playing into that game, and when it got to crunch time, you you failed your team. You honestly did.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But what a game. Uh UVC you fought, man. That was such a fun game.

SPEAKER_00

Well, and the sheer fact that you're like you said, it it wasn't like they went on like a 15-0 run. It's like they just chipped and chipped and they never gave up, and they never really just you know threw in the towel. And I I know none of these teams throw in the towel, but man, they I you almost felt like the will that they're like, we are still in this. Yeah. We play our game, we're still in this, we've been here before. Not us, these guys, but this team has been here before. So yeah, and again, maybe it's it melting a little bit more because we live like 30 minutes away from campus, but nah, that was that was just a really cool thing to see. And uh obviously one of the biggest comebacks in tourney history, I gotta imagine.

SPEAKER_01

I think it was tied for the most, like with 15 minutes to go, 19 points. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But uh that first round, let's talk about two more that really came down literally to the last second, right? Let's talk about the we'll save your favorite. We'll do Kentucky and Santa Clara, man. We both had Santa Clara win that game.

SPEAKER_01

It looked good. It looked like we had it. That was such a classic March Madness game, though. It couldn't have been any. I I wasn't even mad I lost that. I know.

SPEAKER_00

I was like, all right, you know, and you just knew when when Owe hit that half-court bank shot three to put it into overtime, you're like, they they're gonna win now. Well they're just gonna win. I mean, the Santa Clara guys were like, what? How? Yeah, how you don't come back for that. He didn't call bank. No, of course not. The bank was not open on that.

SPEAKER_01

He did call game. He didn't call overtime. He called overtime.

SPEAKER_00

But yeah, no, that game was was crazy, back and forth, you know, it was heated the whole way, but they just had no answer for OA. I mean, he was he was just out muscling them, and he was making every shot that he could, and he was willing uh Kentucky to that way.

SPEAKER_01

It was and he did it. That's a star-studded family.

SPEAKER_00

It is, yeah. Older brother now on the commanders got paid 100 milli. Owe a little OA is like, I'm I'm he's probably making that in in I. It's like, no, it took you five years to do that. I did that last week.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, especially after you hit that shot. How much more?

SPEAKER_00

20 million probably just. I'm the number two. Number two. But uh, and then of course we gotta go to the last one. You're your 112 that you picked, high point over Wisco.

SPEAKER_01

Pulled it off. Dude, they dude, those guys, first of all, Rob Martin. Look, if you combine if you combine Rob Martin with Acuff, that's Derek Rose. Yeah. That kid is so cat quick.

SPEAKER_00

Love seeing those two play against each other, by the way. That was so crazy.

SPEAKER_01

No, that was that was awesome. And he just put guys on spin cycles. I mean, it was he was a good player, man. I mean, he could hit threes, uh, he could get into the paint whenever he wanted, and those boys crashed that offensive glass and scrapped. Um, I was so glad they beat Wisconsin. I mean, in pure March Madness fashion. Guy that hasn't made a two-point shot. All year. Dude, he traveled on that too. You're calling the three point shot. Because he I don't blame him because he's like, I don't go in the I don't go in the three-point shot. What do I do here? He's like, I've never done this. I give him credit for actually leaking out and being open because that's not his thing to do. No. Um, and he showed it because, yeah, he didn't know how far he was from the basket.

SPEAKER_00

But the rest of there's no way they're calling the travel right now. Oh, unless it's incredibly egregious. Yeah. They're not calling that travel. But yeah, he that was definitely a travel. They yeah, Johnston, who um yeah, he's just a he's a three-point sniper, man. It's like you give him, and that's what I love about um Marshmallows is that you get like it's just three and D's everywhere. Yes. All they do is give me the ball and shoot. I can't dribble, I can't drive, but if you give me a sliver of a window open, I'm draining that thing.

SPEAKER_01

Remember Jack Golke last year against Kentucky? Yep. Hit all like only took like took like two threes or two twos that whole year and just lit Kentucky up.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but that kid, yeah, Jonathan, it's like, you know, he would just bury those things without a doubt of running off of a screen. You see that, you you you see that on a bunch of teams, and you're just like, I mean, Nebraska's got one of those.

SPEAKER_01

Vanderbilt had one guy in that game, which we're gonna get to because I want to know how you were feeling. But yeah, Vanderbilt had a guy that was lights out in that second half.

SPEAKER_00

Well, we can do that. Uh we got time for two. We can do that first, or we can do the the biggest upset, the Iowa, Florida. What do you want to go over first? Let's go Iowa, Florida. Did you want to end on my team? I do. I appreciate that. So, Iowa, Florida last night, man. I felt bad for you because I was texting you that whole game. I was like, are you watching this game? You're like, I have to go to bed. Yeah, I had to be up for work. What time do you have to wake up? I woke up at 2 30. Oh my god. Okay, I'll give it to you. I was like, 4 o'clock, 4 30. I was like, you stay up for this. 2 o'clock, you would have gotten two hours of sleep, maybe.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I still did about get that.

SPEAKER_00

And you wouldn't have been able to do this with all the energy you have right now.

SPEAKER_01

I'm I'm struggling through, but I love doing this so much. And I, you know what? Thanks, thanks to the guys in the WhatsApp chat today for getting me all fired up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm running on the fire right now.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely, yeah. But that that um that Iowa Florida game, I was up big for a little bit. Florida kept fighting back, and then they they over they actually took the lead late in that game. And you have to think, okay, Florida's playing Florida ball, this game is over. So again, you know, shout out to that Iowa team that just never say die. I mean, they're their best player, Sturts.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. You wouldn't have known he was their best player.

SPEAKER_00

Oh for nine from three-point lane. In fact, I think more than halfway through the second half, he just gave up shooting threes. As he should have. He's like, I'm just I'm not doing it. It's not happening for me. But they again, they had another sharpshooter, Coke or Koch. I think it's Coke. Coke. Coke. I mean, he was again one of those guys. It's like you give him the ball, and with a sliver of a window, he's draining that three. Um, and man, like I for some reason I love it when the games get down to foul outs. Like everybody's playing with four fouls or three fouls, and you have to be very strategic. It's like you can't, you gotta let him drive because if you foul, you're out. And you gotta be it adds another element of strategy to it.

SPEAKER_01

It does because, and I I love it, but man, watching those games, you're just like in the NBA, these kids foul out in the first two minutes of the game. Yeah. I mean, but it's like you're allowed a lot of contact, so when you've got that fourth foul, I mean, you really gotta be careful because really anything they do is considered like a foul. But yeah, it it got dicey at the end, and Florida had some sharp shooters too, guys, that would just uh a sliver of you know light, and they're jacking up those threes.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, they I mean, obviously they've got future um you know NBA players. That Condon guy is good.

SPEAKER_01

I know you don't like him.

SPEAKER_00

Can't stand that guy, especially the way he threw down the eventual hero of that game, Fulguiras, which we'll go into that play. But he like they were up for a jump ball, and he literally like looked like Seabar and DW were probably at half mass watching that because he like did a suplex on him. He flipped him over and he slammed him to the ground, and they didn't call him a T. And then Fulgaris like looked like he was trying to punch out the ball, but everyone's like, he punched him, he punched him, and they wanted him ejected. It was a crazy scene. Yeah, it was it was very aggressive that entire game. And uh, I just again uh for me, Condon, and I couldn't stand ha, and I hate to say it, it's because of the way he looks. I didn't know. It looked like Will Billy out there trying to grow a mustache, and I was just like, oh my god, shave that thing. You look horrible. Like you're embarrassing me. I was like, you that's that's looks like a full-blown Nazi Germany mustache right there.

SPEAKER_01

But guy could ball.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I mean, his name is Ha. That's definitely German.

SPEAKER_01

Thomas Ha. Yes.

SPEAKER_00

Um, but um, yeah, I like I was couldn't be happier. What a game. I mean, like, they were up, I I think uh Florida was up. I mean, it was back and forth um for a while, but they were up 69-66 with about two and a half left. Um, and then it was just back and forth, 69-68, 71-68, 71-70. Sturts couldn't hit anything from three, but he hit that uh driving jumper about eight feet away. That was incredible. And again, we talk about free throws, man. We see it in a bunch of these games. You can put this team away with eight seconds left. Uh Isaiah Brown two foul shots, they're up, they're up 71-70. Misses his first free throw. I know. And this guy, I think Isaiah Brown was like an 80% like free throw shooter. It don't matter in March Madness, man. Hits the second, but they're up by two. And what happens? And again, this is the same thing like with the St. John's. Nobody's expecting uh Darling to take that shot. Even though he'd been ice cold, you have to imagine Florida's thinking, okay, either Sturz is getting the ball or they're gonna give it to Coke because he's been lights out. Sturz gets the ball, he acts like he's driving to the lane, kicks it out to Full Garrus for the corner three. The guy steps back behind the line and just ice in his veins. Yeah. Throws it down with four seconds left.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know what kind of defense they were playing. They were doing like a three-quarter press or something for some reason.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, they've been doing that whole game. It's like they hadn't had one stop there, and I mean it was running a little bit of clock, uh, but I don't understand it either.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you left the guy a three-point shooter wide open. I mean, he did make a nice gather it, step back, and shoot, but uh, I kind of questioned the defense with under 10 seconds left. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And then um, and then again, you talk about play call, and it's like the Florida play. Did you watch the last play? Yeah. What was that? I don't know. That was your play? Yeah. Lee drives all the way to under the hoop, and then in a full crowd, he just chucks it at Condon? And the time was uh uh expired.

SPEAKER_01

That those are the moments where I always think of like DW because DW like generally hates like college sports, like he doesn't like college football. I think he's okay with college basketball, but that's one of his like biggest complaints, is it's just sometimes like the kids they just make like the stupidest plays at like the worst time.

SPEAKER_00

So you don't think that was the play call? You're the you think that he was like Lee, you you find the spot and you you you're the captain of the ship and you kind of steer us in the right direction? I think so.

SPEAKER_01

Like, I mean I think it's kind of I think at that point you kind of let like the guys play and figure it out, and yeah, I think he got himself in like a bad position and couldn't quite recover, and at the end of it, you're like, that's the best thing you could get. A lot of times that's what you see at the beginning of like a college basketball season. That's why it's tough to watch, is they kind of struggle. And but I will say the NBA watching like that Cavaliers uh uh oh my god, Warriors final, you know, where like uh Kyrie hits that that fourth quarter was awful. Those guys were making the same types of mistakes. Uh even Kobe Bryant versus Kevin Durant or Garnett, the Celtics Lakers, that game seven, that's one of the most atrocious games of basketball you'll ever see. It's just trying to just throw something up and hope it goes in. And so there's no plays, guys are making stupid decisions. So it even happens to the pros. Um, but you hated to see Florida kind of lose it on that. You were hoping they'd at least get like.

SPEAKER_00

And it's like, you know, again, I just think that they'd have better it looked like Lee was trying to get it to Condon the whole time and he forced it in there.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, maybe that's to the point then, as we've talked. I mean, everyone just sat there be like, they're gonna go to Condon.

SPEAKER_00

So they were just gonna cover the crap out of it.

SPEAKER_01

I guess they should have. You know what? Maybe now when I see the guy that shouldn't have gotten the ball, gets it, I'm like, that's the best play call. Yeah. You'll get the best look at it, I guess. Yeah. Ah, maybe I've turned a leaf. All right, look at you. Look at this podcast.

SPEAKER_00

Halfway through the uh like in real time, I see you changing and evolving. Good for you. I'm evolving. Well, you can evolve into becoming a huge Nebraska fan. You're rooting for the Nebraska ball the rest of the way?

SPEAKER_01

No.

SPEAKER_00

Come on, come on, you want to see this guy happy? You know the answer. Yeah, you don't want to see this guy happy.

SPEAKER_01

I really wanted to see them play Florida. And I was gonna say that if they beat Florida, I was gonna call them the name you want me to call them.

SPEAKER_00

Oh man. But now I'm Come on, what if they still win and they get into the League Day? You're not gonna call them Nebraska ball? They're playing Iowa. How dare you? Nebraska the Iowa just beat the defending champs.

SPEAKER_01

Which is a great uh rematch. I don't care about that. It's Iowa. They're not they might not show up the same. And Nebraska might win by 20.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know about 20. We don't score a lot of points. Okay. That would say a lot. They would have to score 40 for us to win by 20.

SPEAKER_01

That's a great rematch. They last won the overtime last time they played.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, they they're I feel like they're m they match up very, very well. They do. And uh they play similar types of basketball.

SPEAKER_01

It's gonna be a great I I actually do I do like that. It's gonna be a must watch, man. Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So yeah, we'll go to the last game, Van D versus Nebraska. Another one that came down to the freaking last shot. Like like a two seconds left. Might as well have been a buzzer beater. Holy cow. I'm gonna do all the talking because I you don't really care. Nope. But I'll go over a few things really quickly. One, shout out to Vanity. That team played their butts off. Uh, and I really, like halfway through the second half, I just felt the tide changing, and I was like, we are in trouble. Yes. Like we are in trouble. There's shots are falling now.

SPEAKER_01

Nickel couldn't miss.

SPEAKER_00

Couldn't miss. Tanner was taken over. Tanner, he might be tiny. That guy looks all the parts too. If he was just a little bit bigger, and the same thing with uh Rob, your boy Rob for high point. Oh, yeah. If those guys were just had a little bit more stature, they would be surefire lottery picks. But because they're a little bit lighter, we talked about how the NBA is really shying away from the smaller guards. You know, they'll be lucky if they get drafted at this point, which is a shame because they're both incredibly talented. But that guy Tanner, we could not stop him. Like everything he wanted to do, especially in the second half, he was doing it. Driving, getting a foul, shooting the three, everything. And he was just everything you would want from a uh a point on that team. But yeah, we were down 67-62 with five minutes left after Nickel hit that freaking three. I know. I was like, you gotta be kidding me. And they were playing lights out defense. They wouldn't get they wouldn't let Sanford get a three off to save his life. And he shot seven threes in the first round. We needed him to come. I know. And they were just not letting it happen. So I mean, that's what I thought. Five minutes left, 67-62. I was like, this is over, man. We we're we're done. Valiant effort, glad we made it. We got our first dub. There it is. Um, but um, but no, they didn't never say died. Stanford came through. He didn't hit the three, but he hit a 12-foot jumper with about five minutes left, held him, you know, uh, didn't let Nickel shoot the three, got it back, Stanford got fouled, all of a sudden it's 67, 66, and then we're we're there we are, two minutes left, and it's just back and forth, back and forth. And then we ended up with a two seconds left with our freshman who went to Southwest High School 10 minutes away from University of Nebraska. Okay, Braden Frager. Frager, Frager, driving to the loop with two seconds, uh, driving to the hoop with two seconds left. Layup. Yep. 74 72, but again, I was like, is this gonna be OA times two?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I would.

SPEAKER_00

Tyler Tanner, half half-court, we're like two seconds left. I was like, okay, there's no half-court shot. Almost an identical shot, banks it, hits every part of that rim and bounces out.

SPEAKER_01

I, you know, it was like one of those where all the luck that you have in like fantasy sports, all this, everything. I was like, this would make all of it worth it if he drills. And I just dagger and just buries me. And then to have to see you when we record this after a week. Beaming of the other one.

SPEAKER_00

I don't want to talk about it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I'll be like, that's some crap. And of course, still comes up bigo. Still comes up bigo. But yeah, what a I I don't think I've ever had like my team, you know, that I got rooted for, like, lose like that. That's just gotta be the worst, though.

SPEAKER_00

It really does. We we we we've had this conversation offhand. It's like, would you rather like get blown out, or would you rather lose it on a on a shot like that?

SPEAKER_01

Blown out, blown out, yeah. Right?

SPEAKER_00

I can't go over that emotional roller coaster.

SPEAKER_01

I don't want some guy a prayer that some guy throws up. Like, I do sit there, you see the highlights, like a little high school game, or like sometimes like a kid's game. I know it's just a kid's game, but like the guy who like hookshot it from like under his own basket. Like literally 2% chance that thing. And you're like, there's the kid could take another thousand shots. He might not even hit the rim.

SPEAKER_00

That's why you play. That's the that's the magic of sports, my friends. I know. But yeah, so we gotta come in. Nebraska's got a good shot of making the Elite Eight ship. Let's go, dude.

SPEAKER_01

But look. Nebraska ball. I I do like I I will admit, I do like watching Nebraska play. Fred Hoyberg is a great coach. He went to like a zone on Vanderbilt. That was huge. That completely and that's that's what Heuberg will do. How he's a he's I mean, he played in the NBA, he's fundamentally sound. Yes, very fundamentally. But you know, he's got those guys coached up really well, obviously. Look, man, I kind of talked about how like Purdue, you know, when they run up against like a team like Houston, yeah. Dude, I think Houston's gonna mollywop Iowa or Nebraska.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I mean, Houston's still gotta get past Illinois.

SPEAKER_01

We liked Illinois too. I know. That's that's I'm glad we got to at least one of the games that we look forward to. The other one is one more round away when we get Michigan versus Ohio or Iowa State, hopefully. But yeah, I'm glad we got Illinois versus Houston because I cannot wait for that game.

SPEAKER_00

That's gonna be a good one for sure. I'll I'll be uh my favorite game is obviously gonna be the Nebraska. Of course.

SPEAKER_01

I'll probably not.

SPEAKER_00

I am kind of happy for you. Thank you. And then I'm I'm very stressed about the Michigan State Yukon game. As you should be.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I am kind of too. But that's gonna actually probably uh That'll that could flip the script.

SPEAKER_00

You could very quickly take the lead over me. Yeah. And then I'll have to be chopping down on that that anus chocolate that you what was it? Flaming anus. Flaming anus chocolate. Flaming anus chocolate. Yep. Yikes. Okay. I don't like my anus flaming, sir. That's not few do. That's not uh on my on my wish. That's not on my wish list. Let's not do that. Um other thing uh not on my wish list, my friend. We'll move on. Um baseball's almost here. We did our fantasy baseball, but something in baseball did just end. World baseball classic, and it did not end well for the US of A. We didn't get to an last one because it was a bracketology jam. Yeah, yeah. But um, we're gonna make time for it here. We got one more sports talk listeners, so hang tight. Something we had to push out because of the brackets, but we still think it's worth to talk about. But world baseball classic USA loses it late. Man, our our I mean Whitlock blew it. Yeah, he did. And I I I always wonder about these announcer jinxes. They're like, well, it's been locked down all years, hasn't given up a single hit, and all of a sudden, yeah, freaking Eugenio Suarez comes up and just laces one in the gap.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. That was a good team, man. That was a good Venezuela team. That's a great Venezuela team. Yeah. No, uh it um I Venezuela deserved to win the game. I mean, the U.S. I think was the better team on paper, but Bets didn't show up, man. They didn't.

SPEAKER_00

Judge was nowhere to be seen.

SPEAKER_01

No, other than like the very first game or the very first two games against the easiest opponents. But I mean, look, Dominican Republic, I mean, I'm more impressed that we held them to one run than they held us to two because that pitching staff on the DR really was not good. And that was that was definitely like a for kind of a foreshadowing to this game because we should have put up a lot more runs.

SPEAKER_00

We have so many bats on the team.

SPEAKER_01

And they just were quiet. It's almost kind of like they just wanted to play like home run ball, you know, and didn't want to like manufacture a run, which I think is sometimes what the team like a like a Venezuela, um, even Dominican well, Dominican Republic wanted to hit like a lot of home runs. That's again they lost. But it's also one of those where I feel like, yeah, it is. Typically, I'd feel like a team like that would realize, okay, we're in like the seventh, eighth, and ninth. Like, let's just get a single and get on base. But the DR's got too many of those like ego you know guys.

SPEAKER_00

And you know, Venezuela played small ball before Eugenio hit that double, they brought in a pinch runner to steal second, get into to scoring position. So they were playing the small ball that it takes, and they were doing whatever it took to win. And yeah, it seems like it meant more to them. My other thoughts about it is that, and again, I I just maybe it's because I'm more hyper-focused on the USA side of things, but it's frustrating when we look at load management and they're like, Well, you know, we can't have this pitcher. We didn't have our best pitchers because they all had to go back. They're like, I hit my max, scuba left. Yeah, like you know, Skeens wasn't nearly what he was supposed to be going into that.

SPEAKER_01

Not really.

SPEAKER_00

And I wonder if a lot of that has to do with um with the pitchers. It's like if you don't have your catcher, your guy catching for you, does it make it that much of an impact?

SPEAKER_01

I mean, Greg Maddox literally would only have one guy catch for him. Yeah, I forget his name, but I'm sorry, ill well. Eddie Perez, that's it. Yes, good job. Um, when Javi Lopez was the typical, but yeah, that probably does make a little bit. Yeah, there's probably like a comfort level in that. But the other, but the other pitchers had to deal with the same thing on the other side.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You know, like it wasn't like they have to have their own guys. Um, but yeah, it was a little disappointing. I'll be honest, I was not what did you think of, you know, like Schwarber and the other guy? Was it Mason Miller that like I don't know, made it about themselves taking the silver medal off, pretending like this isn't you basically slapping Venezuela kind of in the face, too, being like, Well, we shouldn't, we didn't, you know, we deserve to probably have gold, like I don't want this. It's like dude, be it be a good loser at some point.

SPEAKER_00

At least like, yeah, do it if you're if you feel that like demonstrative about it, do it behind closed doors. Yeah, like you're doing it for show, and it's disappointing. And again, you're showing up the team that beat you, like you made it all about you. It's like show some respect for your competitors across the way. I mean, Canada could have done that when we lost when they lost to us in the in the Olympics. Because everybody had Canada on paper being the better team.

SPEAKER_01

Yep, exactly.

SPEAKER_00

So if they felt that confident about it, like they could have just refused the medals, skated off the ice, and just pouted. Well, you look like just children when you do stuff like that. Take it on the chin, be appreciative that you got where you far, because you shouldn't have even made it out of the rounds. You shouldn't have. So I absolutely have a problem with it.

SPEAKER_01

Like sure, grow up, man. Yeah, that was. I mean, I get that you want to win, and like I know you're gonna sit there and say it's like the Uber competitor in you. But dude, like at some point though, like you, it's also sportsmanship, which is look, that's such a I mean, that was such an American thing to do, what they did. Like, I hate saying that, but it's just we're the country that would lead the charge in doing something like that. There's no sportsmanship anymore.

SPEAKER_00

No. Well, you like the whole Cal Raleigh not like shaking hands with his teammates when they came at the bat, like a Rosarina, and then who's the other one? Um Naylor, I think, because I think he plays for Canada. Oh, that's right, yeah. And Naylor was like, I'm just doing it, just mess with him because I saw that he didn't do it with him. But it's like Come on, man. It's it's not. I don't care if you're like, yeah, if you're yeah, just grow the freak up, man.

SPEAKER_01

It's the world baseball classic, which we'll kind of get into like the next kind of uh, I guess, question about it, because I mean we had forgotten, kind of forgotten to talk about the last world baseball classic when Otani struck out, struck out trout to end the whole damn thing. Yeah, that was pretty cool. Which was a great jump board into this one, yeah. And this was a great tournament. I mean, uh you know, as much as if this becomes a huge thing, I feel like Mike start getting upset that all the Italians are actually Americans playing on Italy, but to get this thing jump started, you kind of gotta have other teams that are gonna get in it. But I mean, this thing is becoming kind of a success. Um, so it but it's still not a huge thing. So this whole not wanting to talk to your own teammates that play on another country still seems a little crazy. Yeah. But it's kind of getting to the point where it might be something big because now that Major League Baseball wants to do it maybe in like the middle of the season, which I think I'm all for. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

Like maybe to replace the all-star game, but I don't know. And I understand that like the idea with like doing it in the middle of the season, it breaks up a very long season. So I can appreciate that. But I think that I kind of like it early on, you know, it's I I think that it's just gonna it's gonna fracture the the season a little bit. I don't like it in the midseason. I don't know. I don't like it in the midseason.

SPEAKER_01

I think you might get more pitchers involved in it though, because I think they get so which I we'll get more into it, but I'm just like I think you need to actually like throw more and just not try to throw sliders. Like, I think this whole rest is not benefiting. But so that's what they're all worried about, is they're not gonna be ramped up in time. I'm like, well, the season ended in September.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But it's like in the middle of the season, I guess it wouldn't be so bad if they went out there and threw like five or six innings like during that season because they're already kind of in the middle of the season a little bit. I don't know. I think you I think you would have seen Scuball out there a couple starts.

SPEAKER_00

Maybe. But you also risk some of these guys getting hurt through the season. Like in the beginning of the season, you got all these guys, you know who's gonna be there, and you know there's gonna be healthy. It's like they could have Judge penciled in for Team USA, and then two weeks before mid-season, he crashes into the wall and he gets a concussion. He's not, he's out.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but say but say but the same could be said for in the winter guys coming back from an injury or not wanting to risk getting hurt before the season. I know you see a lot of guys sitting out now. Yeah. So it might be about the same um in the middle of the season, but I think you get more pitchers that would actually participate, which would make the game, I think, a little bit better. But I I love it. I mean, yeah, replace the all-star game. Um the uh NHL was on to something with the four nations. Yeah, no, that was good. The NBA should just do a USA versus the world, um, and the winning team gets like$50 million and actually have them go out there and like ball and play. Like I would I would watch that in a heartbeat if they were gonna try. Yeah, if they were gonna try.

SPEAKER_00

That's the big qualifier there.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So do you so you you're saying though is this gonna be the uh a big thing that people are gonna be taking seriously then?

SPEAKER_01

I think so. I I think it's got like a lot of legs and momentum. It's got momentum, and I think it's gonna you know, I think there's guys are gonna want to play in it more because I think it the competition's better, a lot of the teams are better. So I think you I think maybe a guy like Scuball I think that next time this comes around, I feel like he'd prep in the offseason better to maybe be ready for it. Like I don't know, because he he thought about staying, because I don't I don't think he played in the one before that. No, so I don't think he really knew kind of that atmosphere and kind of how fun it could be. You know, like you said last episode, like Judge was like that's best playing like the fans. So I I think maybe Scuball didn't know what to expect. He didn't know it. So I think guys now who have played this a few times kind of come back and are like, dude, it is so much fun, it's awesome. Like you don't want to pass it up. So I think you'll get more guys wanting to play.

SPEAKER_00

The other reason I think they might have things that reason the tickets here saying that the players ticket seriously is that you don't have one dominant team, right? It's true. You know, you Japan win last year, you got Venezuela winning. I mean, like this year, you I mean, the DR should always be in contention. We USA should always be in contention.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, Netherlands has a good team. I mean, they're all guys that I mean they play in like uh, oh my god, what's the Curacao? Yeah, but not really Netherlands, but they're part of the team. But that's got a lot of good guys, isn't it? I mean, there's a lot of really good teams. Canada's only gonna get better. I think they're they're quietly gonna become, like, maybe in 20 years, like a sports powerhouse country. You're kind of seeing it in basketball. Like, I think you're starting to kind of see it on like the soccer stage a little bit, like more than before. Um, but I think they're kind of bleeding into baseball a little bit, too. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I mean, like you mentioned basketball. We we do have one basketball conversation that we have to talk about because this guy did something that was pretty impressive, and of course he did it against my team, the Wizards.

SPEAKER_01

Which is why you didn't want to talk about it last episode.

SPEAKER_00

I don't want to talk about it, but you know, you brought it up on the outline again, so I guess you got some stuff to say. So, Bam Atabayo, um, putting up a whopping 83 points in a game. One game. One game against the Wiz second all time to Wilt's a hundred point game. Um, I'll start off with my biggest question say, do you take it seriously?

SPEAKER_01

I want to so badly. It is so hard to though. Like I that lasts like three minutes, two minutes. That was not basketball. No. It's hard not to get caught up in something like that, though. I won't lie, like I I feel like I would have done wanted them to do that as well, like intentionally foul so you can get the ball back, and maybe afterwards be like, yeah, maybe that wasn't the best thing to do. Um but I don't know, like when a guy's got a chance to go for that record. I mean, he obviously got to I mean he got to like 61 or 62, I think, like true. You know, and like he could have been pulled out of the game, they couldn't have like tried to foul him to get him, you know, more possessions and stuff. Um it's a great performance, but it's bam out of bio, though. I don't like he's not really a scorer. I mean, he went for 31 in the first quarter, but it's just it's it's tough to kind of think of him as of all the guys you could guess in the NBA, he would have been picked like the 120th guy you would have thought could have done it. They could have done it, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, for sure. Like, do I take it seriously? I take it about as seriously as any of the guys that hit it in the top five of points per game because all of them have the same issue. They all are manufactured. All of these point totals are manufactured. The Kobe game, it's like his last game for like in Los Angeles, in every possession, the the all they're doing is passing, like get the ball to Kobe. Well, that wasn't the 81. Okay, what one was that?

SPEAKER_01

That was but it that see now that was fun. I remember I watched that live. That was he scored like 61.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

But dude, that I mean that was that's his last home game. Of course, give him the ball. But to your point, you're right.

SPEAKER_00

Like that some of these times, like these games are they're manufactured, like when even the Wilt 100, uh, like like what was that, like 40 years ago or 50 years ago, that was manufactured.

SPEAKER_01

They just went for the record. Yes, yeah. It a lot of these guys have kind of done that. Um, like trying to go for like once they get to like 60, they just the teams feed them the ball. I mean, why wouldn't you? I mean, you scored 60, but yeah, they're gonna try to get you the ball so that you can score more points.

SPEAKER_00

The well, yeah, get him the ball, but at the same time, I you gotta give some of the blame to the Wizards or the refs, or I don't know, man. The guy shot 43 free throws.

SPEAKER_01

I didn't watch the game. I got a guy at work who's a huge basketball fan, huge Wizards fan, watches like every game, and he was like, dude, they I mean the Wizards were fouling him. Like, it wasn't like they were phantom calls. It's like the Wizards are just a bad team, but how much can you blame that's the guy, it's the team that's in front of you. Like, what are you supposed to do? Just go like three-quarter speed? Like, no, like you're supposed to play your game.

SPEAKER_00

Then the the next guy that had the most free throws on that game was Riley for the Wizards with seven. He shot 43 free throws.

SPEAKER_01

I know he did. Well, they I mean they kept feeding him at the end. I mean, that that number racked up at the end. I think I was like following it on like a game cast, and every time I looked in the fourth quarter, bam's at the line. Bams at the line. Because like the Wizards just it's like they were trying to deny him the ball.

SPEAKER_00

They were getting pissed off. They were getting pissed off. They're like, they don't want to because no team wants to be the footnote of like 83-point game against the Wizards. I know. You don't want to be that team, but again, that's not how you do it. So I put part of the blame on the Wizards just for not being able to stop them and just again fouling them because they had nothing better to do. And I know that the coach is all salty, he's like, it's some crap, the Wizards coach, but I I mean, to your point, you know, if you don't like it, stop them. And do it the right way.

SPEAKER_01

I feel like that's like yeah, that's like a that's a brand in uh that's a bigo, like you've used that phrase a lot of times. Yeah, like yeah, if you don't like it, like stop it. Yeah. Um, but I don't know, man. One thing I could like take from it as well was I think so many more people got so upset about it because of who he passed. Kobe? Yeah. Like if it was, you know, like so this guy David Thompson, I've seen like maybe two highlights of this guy, but he has like, I think like 77 points. If that was the record before that, I don't think anybody would really have cared as much about it. And I don't it got me like really thinking, I'm like, look, I know Kobe passed away, but for real, why why is this guy put on such a huge pedestal? He purposely didn't take a shot in the second half of I think what was like a playoff game once to send a message. He wants to sit there and claim, well, me shooting wasn't helping. That's all you did for like five straight seasons. So you just learned it now in a playoff game. But also looking back on it, like how embarrassing had it has had it have had to have been for like ESPN, ABC News, NBC, that we had to sit there and watch him travel from Eagle or Golden Colorado back to LA for a game because he's being charged with sexual assault. Yeah. Dude, you you cheated on your wife. Like, whether it was sexual assault or not, you cheated on your wife in Denver. The stories of all these NBA guys are basically they've got other girls and a woman in basically every city. What kind of a role model is that? Why do we just look past that? I can't fathom that. It was such news that we were following his plane on when he was gonna get to the game, and everyone just kind of pretends like that's okay. And I'm like, your poor wife and your family, knowing that you went to probably every City and had somebody that you you know, a girlfriend on the side in every city. I just and then also the fact that you know Kobe the competitor, Black Mamba, but in practice would we we chastise Chris Paul for his attitude. Kobe Bryant in practice would basically make people stay, play one-on-one, and when he's done with you, basically throw you off the court and say next, who's next? What kind of a teammate is that? Why does he get a pass? Like why is he in such a high he won with Shaq? I he won one, I think what, one without Shaq with Pal Gasol, I think. Maybe two, but I don't get it.

SPEAKER_00

Well, it's because again, people look past a lot of this personal stuff for greatness. I mean, come on, Michael Jordan's not exactly an exemplary role model.

SPEAKER_01

No, he's not.

SPEAKER_00

He's a habitual gambler. He is, you're right. And he's also an adulterer. It's like he cheated on his wife a thousand times.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, that is true.

SPEAKER_00

You're you're not wrong. I think I think the the the difference is again, like you said, his untimely passing. It's like we always give people more grace when we think they pass before their time. Yeah. I mean, we do that with a lot of celebrities. Like, I mean, Kirk Cobain wasn't exactly a great human being, but he's practically a saint because he the way that he passed away. And you see that a lot with a lot of these celebrities, is that if they pass before their time, it's like, oh, what could have been? River Phoenix, this is a weird shout-out, but River Phoenix, you know, he was in Stand By Me and he played a young Indiana Jones in The Last Crusade. Okay. You barely know who I'm talking about. I know River Phoenix don't know. But he OD'd in a club. This guy was just living the vices, yeah. And everybody's like, oh, but what could have been? It was like, he probably would have drowned out. Yeah. Like, but because he died too soon and died so young, it's the pencil. What could have been? Kobe was tired, yes, but you know, he was like the irony of it is even with sexual house and potentially rape, because he was charged with rape. Let's just call it what it is. Okay, I'll actually. Well, I won't be I'll be nice. We'll call it grape, because I'm drinking grape soda. You are. I'm drinking grape soda. So he was he was uh accused of grape sodaing a poor woman in Denver, Colorado. Um I just like I mean, we can look like people just want to look past and they just want to look at the the at the great things. But it is the irony. I'm sorry, I was getting back to it. The irony is after what he was accused for, he became a champion for WNBA. And he he it seemed like he was not overcompensating, but he was definitely trying to like I love women and I'm uh an ambassador for them, and of course he had his daughters too, and that's the real heartbreaking thing. It's not just that he passed, but his daughter passed in that horrible helicopter accident. But um, I think that's why people give him a pass. I think it's not only that he died, it's how he died, and maybe who he was with and how it just shattered a like so they people put on it, and again, he was Los Angeles Lakers basketball, and that is one of the biggest markets in the world, and there's they're like the Yankees. There's so many people that are Lakers fans, whether they're diehards or they're just like flies on the wall. So it just it's it's a broader audience, too. So that's why you hear all this vitriol to it.

SPEAKER_01

I know that's true. Like they only they only might know five people that have ever played in the NBA.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And you know, I mean, he's he goes by a single name. It's like he's a Brazilian soccer player, but he's just you know, Kobe. Yeah. Everyone knows him as that. That is true. I think that's just one of those you just kind of sometimes like look deeper and just be like, he he really wasn't like all that in a bag of potato chips, for lack of a better word. But I don't know, that just seemed to kind of like frustrate me because it was like if it was anybody else that ban passed, it wouldn't have been made such a stink, but it was all, yeah, but Kobe, but Kobe. Kobe was not perfect player, he obviously wasn't perfect off the court, so it was just was a little, I don't know. I we need to kind of maybe and you're right with Jordan. We don't need to kind of put him on a pedestal either. Um, because I mean he was the same kind of competitive, which also makes me not like Kobe because you just tried to copy Michael Jordan, like you really weren't trying to do anything that hadn't been done before.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, not I mean a great role model when it comes to basketball, not a great role model off the court. Not quite, but uh again, you see that it's like people just that you you see these people out in um, you know, like I mean, like another one's like Chuck, Charles Barkley, like horrendous gambler. Yes, but he's on TV and everybody likes him and he's great. And I'm and I'm not trying to throw throw shit. Shaquille O'Neal, hilarious, he's got every sponsorship known to freaking man. Terrible father, he is, and you know, again, an adulterer. Like people give people passes because they see him in the public eye and they seem oh, very you know, gregarious and very entertaining, and they just give people a pass. Kobe was everywhere. Black Mamba, you know, shoes, you know, um he won a freaking Oscar for his doc.

SPEAKER_01

Don't don't get me started on that. Oh, I'll get you started on that. Because it's because it was a Kobe Bryant production. If you and I produced something like that, we wouldn't even have been nominated. No. That's the whole because the actor did ballet for eight hours a day, because they lost, you know, massive amounts of weight, like because it's Kobe Bryant producing something, it automatically shot ahead of everybody else that was in that category. He was gonna be, it was his to lose the second that you attached Kobe Bryant Productions post-NBA career, how great he was. He almost, if he didn't win, that was a huge fail, it would have been a huge failure in my show.

SPEAKER_00

It's like, oh man, he was robbed.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Well, hey, I mean, great day because the Oscars did just happen, man. So obviously you're a huge fan. You think it's it's always given to the right people of the best movies. So I'm sure you're thrilled with the uh the Oscars. Did you watch a single minute of the Oscars?

SPEAKER_01

I think I found out the day after that they were on last year.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I told you. You were like, uh, we were talking about on the last podcast, and you were like, I was like, we need to get back to the movies. Like, well, nothing's happening. I was like, the Oscars just happened. What are you talking about? So not the biggest uh Oscar fan.

SPEAKER_01

Um and I and I'm not alone because I think it was one of the least watched Oscars of all time.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and I I mean like I don't know what I can put that in testament to, other than you know, maybe the younger crowds aren't that interested. Or again, it's also about how are they digesting the medium, right? Like are they watching it live? Probably not. They're probably watching on freaking TikTok. They're probably watching it on YouTube the next day, they're getting the highlights. That's true.

SPEAKER_01

Probably like speeches were being given that watching this.

SPEAKER_00

I don't want a total thing, I'll just, you know, the the news feed will give me the highlights, and I'll just watch the highlights. I'll I'll watch for that Will Smith slapping the crap out of Chris Rock moments. I did see that loop on LinkedIn. Hey, there you go. That was was that last year or something?

SPEAKER_01

No gosh, that was like five or six. No, it wasn't five or six. That was a long time ago.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, I'll give you three. Maybe maybe three. But uh here, I'm gonna go over the the the I'm uh we're not gonna go over everything, but I want to go over like the ones that were up for best picture. Okay. Yes. And I'm not even I'm not even gonna ask you if you've seen it, because that's the the I already know the answer is no. So I'm gonna give you the name of the movie. You're gonna tell me if you're aware of this movie, and if not, I want you to try and tell me what you think the movie is about. Okay. Okay. First one's super easy. Frankenstein. Did you watch Frankenstein?

SPEAKER_01

No.

SPEAKER_00

Not at all. Is there a werewolf? Get out of here. Okay, I'll give we give you a pass on Frankenstein. How about F1? You know what?

SPEAKER_01

That's a movie I think I I I would watch. You would watch, because it's sports. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um I've seen some of like the previews for it. Uh was that Brad Pitt? Yes, it was Brad Pitt, yes. Uh yeah, I I probably will watch that at some point in time. Um so yeah, I I and I I've heard good things about it. So I think I I would watch that.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Alright. Yeah. Alright, how about Hammett? Hammett?

SPEAKER_01

Hammett. Is that a person's name? Is that a pet's name? Is that a city?

SPEAKER_00

Hamnet.

SPEAKER_01

What the hell is Hammett?

SPEAKER_00

I'll save a spot for you. H-A-M-N-E-T, Hamnet. Oh, Hamnet. Oh, well, that changes everything. Oh, yeah, because you know what it means now. It doesn't change a damn thing.

SPEAKER_01

What the hell is Hamnet? What was that movie about? Is that a person? It was about Shakespeare. Oh, so it's not Hamlet? It's not Hamlet, it's Hamnet. But it's Shakespeare. Yes. You know, we gotta get back on a conspiracy bigo uh train. But have you heard that like Shakespeare, it wasn't he wasn't one of the biggest. Yes, he has a ghostwriter, yes. Or there's multiples. Yes. But yeah. Okay. So wait, was this like a redo of the theatrical?

SPEAKER_00

It's about it's about the story of William Shakespeare falling in love, and it's you know, it's like a romance movie, and it's like, but it's like, you know, but that's that's what it's about.

SPEAKER_01

That's an interesting take.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, interesting take. I mean, the uh the lead actress won Best Actress. That actually sounds like Jesse Buckley.

SPEAKER_01

That actually sounds like that be an Oscar type movie.

SPEAKER_00

It was very much an Oscar type movie. I think maybe your wife would like it. Okay. How about Begonia? Is that what Jesse Plemens is? It is with Jesse Plemens. I see that. Hey, look at you. You know an actor's name, and that you know, not uh Brad Pitt, a Jesse Plemens.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. He uh he does a great job of Breaking Bad.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, Breaking Bad. I was the other thing that I think you know him from is probably like Friday Night Lights.

SPEAKER_01

You know, I've only seen bits and pieces of that show. Um but then he's uh isn't he also he's also in I think the movie that's with Leo, right? Yeah, well the one battle after another?

SPEAKER_00

No, he's not in one.

SPEAKER_01

Oh well he's in he's in another one where he plays like a um white supremacist or something. I remember reading some story because Black Klansman? Because he's no, he's he's married to who's he married to?

SPEAKER_00

He's married to Clemens. Um the Mary Jane from Spider-Man.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. So she was doing a movie, and I guess there was this. Was it Civil War? Civil War Civil War. Yes. And I guess I had to call him in because I guess he's like the best white supremacist actor. Well, he did he kind of looks it, doesn't he?

SPEAKER_00

Kind of looks in. Yeah, Kirsten Dent. Kirsten Dunce, there we go. Alright, so whiff um begonia. You you go you want to give it a shot.

SPEAKER_01

Begonia, you know who's in it. I know who's in it. I have no idea what it's about. It looks like it's the lettering makes it look like it's kind of like a Russian or like a I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

It's a weird lettering when you see the begonia. Yeah, it throws you. So two conspiracy uh spirit uh conspiracy theorists great right in our wheelhouse conspiracy theorists. We gotta watch it. They kidnap like a female executive because they are they are just dead set that she is an alien trying to take over the world. And it holds it's got Emma Stone in it.

SPEAKER_01

That's who is uh I knew who he's like facing Yeah, and they shave her head, she kind of looks like an alien.

SPEAKER_00

Really? Yes. Alright, we're we're getting off track. How about Marty Supreme?

SPEAKER_01

No.

SPEAKER_00

You don't know anything about Marty Supreme. Never heard of it. You're getting at it, you really? No, yeah, no. It's about ping pong. Really?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, Timothy Chalamet. Oh, that's the movie that he was in that he made all the buzz about because he was basically dogging uh what was he dogging? Opera?

SPEAKER_00

Opera and the ballet, yes, yes. That's beaten to death. But yeah, he if you watch that interview, he just looks uncomfortable. And I'm like, what are you doing? And I was like, who made this town hall? Matthew McConnell, he's the moderator? What is going on here? This is the weirdest town hall I've ever freaking seen. But he it's it's like based on a re a true story. Um he plays uh Marty Mauser, who's based off another true ping pong um savant, Marty, something or other, blah blah blah blah blah. Um and it's it's going to Hellenback to you know win a tennis tournament or whatever. Okay. Alright. Uh one battle one battle after another. I know you know who's in it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, Leo. Yeah, and that's like another uh I don't know, we'll call them a far right conspiracy nut jobs that uh I don't know, they guess like getting some battles.

SPEAKER_00

It's revolutionaries against like, you know, and it it seems very topical. Very topical. Um I'm guessing you haven't seen it yet. No, but I was one best picture. It did one.

SPEAKER_01

It did one best picture, so congratulations. How about uh the secret agents? Now that just sounds like something right up my ass. That's gotta be like Cold War, post-World War II, Berlin, baby. Am I right?

SPEAKER_00

No, you're not. It's about political turmoil in 1977 Brazil.

SPEAKER_01

I'm intrigued. There you go. Of all the movies, that's the one I think I've got.

SPEAKER_00

Have you seen Narcos? The TV show?

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Oh, I think I saw like the first season. I kind of like that.

SPEAKER_00

So you know the guy that plays Pablo Escobar? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's the lead in the show.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, is he? Okay.

SPEAKER_00

There you go. I'm actually hooked on this one. There you go. I like this one. Thank you. Gotcha. Alright, Sinners. I know you know what Sinners is about. I'm like drawing a blank. Come on.

SPEAKER_01

Why do I know that?

SPEAKER_00

Michael B. Jordan, Sinners.

SPEAKER_01

You know what? I actually was gonna ask you about that. I had no idea I had no idea about no radar on. So it's pretty much um guys that are sinners, kind of like are they basketball players? No. Are they running the same circles as like Kobe, Shaq, Barkley?

SPEAKER_00

No, man.

SPEAKER_01

No.

SPEAKER_00

They um Jesus, I don't even know where to start with this. Um because you're not gonna believe me when I tell you if that's what you think would happen, you're never gonna believe me. So it's about two twins. So Michael B. Jordan plays twins. Okay. Part of the reason he won Best Actor is because he was playing two people. Of course. Um, you know, they were in the Chicago Mafia, they go back home, and then it it on paper, it sounds like From Death Still Dawn. Have you seen From Death Still Dawn? I have. So where it's like the movies go in one direction halfway through, and then it just whoops.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

So same thing. It's it's you know, they they things seem to be going well, and then trouble uh uh happens in a supernatural form, which is vampires. And out. Come on, it kind of buzzed, a lot of great buzz. Mike Major got the ice.

SPEAKER_01

I thought we were over the vampire true blood. This isn't true blood, but it is vampires. Oh, come on. And he won Best Actor. Best actor. Well, because he played two people. How about uh sentimental value? That just sounds like nothing but like a love story like of either like a I don't know, uh like a family type love like a family story.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, okay. Uh yes. Yeah. Yeah. This is the closest you've gotten. It's the intimate exploration of family memories and uh the reconciliator reconciliatory power of art. There you go, you're right there. Wait, is this the one with the Scars Guard?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, Star Scars. We just watched the uh preview of it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, see, that's it. You had a little sneak peek. That's why it triggered something for you.

SPEAKER_01

It did not seem up my alley, though.

SPEAKER_00

Alright, how about how about train dreams? This is the last one. Train dreams.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, look, first instinct is some guy on a train has like different dreams, and somehow they're all intertwined at the end, and it all comes true for him. Like actual dreams. Yeah. He just doses off and then has an inception, but with trains? Sure. No. Is there a murder on the train and he's got to figure it out?

SPEAKER_00

No, okay. I love that you're trying to go outside the box, but no, it's it's very much like a character piece. Um, it's uh about a logger and a railroad worker. He leads a life of unexpected depth and beauty and rapidly changing America of the early 20th century. You'd love this.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay. We're kind of getting into some of that almost like uh not quite the Gilded Age, a little bit after.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, there you go. That's why I was like, this is right up your alley. Yeah, okay. Play is it's got Joel Edgerton in it. Do you know who Joel Edgerton is?

SPEAKER_01

Name sounds familiar.

SPEAKER_00

All right. Have you let's see, what you probably know him from Warrior. You remember the MMA? Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_01

I think you actually brought this up before. Yes, Joel Edgerton. I did. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. See, see, I'm gonna recognize the face, but uh didn't recognize the name.

SPEAKER_00

So you're gonna see I see you watching at least three of these movies now. Perhaps.

SPEAKER_01

But actually, the those there are actually a few on there that I actually would uh would give a watch to. Thanks, man.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I'm I'm here for you, man. So um, you know, you might watch the movies, it doesn't sound like you're ever gonna watch the awards, though.

SPEAKER_01

God no.

SPEAKER_00

Look, I You know, you're not a red carpet guy.

SPEAKER_01

I don't care who you're wearing, I don't care what you're wearing, I don't I no, I could care less. And I don't need to hear your victory speech and then tell me how first of all, I don't believe any of these people that are so eco-friendly, so all this, but you're gonna sit there on your pulpit. I mean, I am gonna kind of steal the whole like George Clooney speech from South Park and that like dust that just kind of that cloud that like hovers over you because it's just it's just smug. It's such smug it is such smugness, but it's so hypocritical. Like stop flying around in your private jets going gallivanting all over the world. Stop going to these like benefit balls that you're just there for your own like vanity.

SPEAKER_00

$2,000 a plate or something.

SPEAKER_01

Like you're not there for the you're there to get noticed, to have the paparazzi take your picture, to pub your new movie. Like, you're not really there for the cause.

SPEAKER_00

So that's what you you probably love Ricky Gervais. You know who Ricky Gervais is. Yes, I love Ricky Gervais. You remember he was hosting at Golden Globes and he said, just take your award and sit back down. Nobody wants to hear about you know what causes you believe in or anything. You are actors. Yes. And they you mentioned the the Greta uh Thurnberg. He was like, She did I think she was like 15 at the time. He's like, she has more education than you do now. So just shut up, take your award, and sit down. And that's what he said that in front of everybody. I thought it was hilarious.

SPEAKER_01

It it wasn't that I remember that. That was hilarious. He's the only person I would watch. I'd watch the monologue if Ricky Gervais was doing the Oscars monologue.

SPEAKER_00

He would just tear him a new one.

SPEAKER_01

I know, which is great. Yeah. So I'd watch that. I did also like when um I don't know if it was for the Oscars or not, but I did like the Tina Faye Amy Pohler combo.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that was good. I like those two. Yeah, they're great.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, they're good.

SPEAKER_00

Alright, so going back to movies, Oscars, can you name a single for best picture, single best picture movie that you watched that you remember, hey, this is a great movie and it won Best Picture? Or give me, maybe give me like three of your favorite movies that you think won an Oscar.

SPEAKER_01

I think Titanic won an Oscar.

SPEAKER_00

Titanic did win an Oscar. Won Best Picture.

SPEAKER_01

Um No Country for Old Men.

SPEAKER_00

No Country for Old Men won Best Picture.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I had a third. Wait, is Titanic one of your favorite movies? No, but a movie that I'd seen.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, alright. I did I did leave a low bar there. You did.

SPEAKER_01

Uh I don't know if any of my favorite movies is an Oscar one. But I think there is one in there that I think I have seen. Oh, um, I think it's a little bit overrated, but uh The Departed. The Departed, yes.

SPEAKER_00

And I that was one of those. It was a make good or something for Corsaia. Yeah, because he should have won for Goodfellas.

SPEAKER_01

It was a good movie. I don't think it was like that great. Jack Nicholson kind of, I don't know. That's another one of those guys where I feel like these roles he gets when he's older. I mean, I haven't seen but so much when he was younger, but I feel like he was a really good actor then. Now I feel like it's just it's Jack Nicholson, and so you can't look past it being him. But it's just always like he just always gets an elevated response where I'm like, I just there's so many good actors out there. I feel like like anyone could have played Jack Nicholson's part and been great in Departed. Not anybody, but a lot of other people. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I don't know. You hear that Jackie Boy? I'm just Semco's just throwing the shade today. Anyone associated with the Lakers, I'm just the anti right now. Yeah, that's right. He's the biggest fan. Well, I mean, you didn't mention Lord of the Rings, but you were like that won the an Academy Award. Did you watch Lord of the Rings?

SPEAKER_01

I have, yes.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, I think the second one was probably more my favorite. Yeah, the third one won the award. And they even said that that was uh make good because they thought that the second one should have won, and it didn't, so they were like, we'll just give it to the third one. But one of its stars is uh making his name, but he's writing the coattails of uh the Lord of the Rings. Um Elijah Wood apparently is DJing now.

SPEAKER_01

Did you know this? He's been doing it for years, like 10 plus years. No idea. He had a second life.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, but he is actually DJing a Lord of the Rings themed rave with disco music. Where are you going, J Bear?

SPEAKER_01

Well, I can't go because I think that thing sold out in like three minutes. But that would be quite the scene. Like, as Will Whitaker would say, I'd want to see it for the experience, yes, of course.

SPEAKER_00

So apparently on March 31st, he's gonna be uh DJing a fantasy theme rave alongside apparently a DJ that's very acclaimed. You know your DJs better than I hear this guy's another an Emmy nominated music producer, Zach Cowie or Kowie Cowie? I don't know. No? Okay, I know nothing. I know like four DJs, but like you said, apparently they've been DJing for about 15 years. Yeah and have uh officially formed their EDM duo Wooden Wisdom in 2026 this year. But they've been making appearances through venues throughout the country, uh, and um they've got upcoming shows that lean into Elijah Wood's experience in the fantasy projects. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That that that that's a perfect, I think, combination.

SPEAKER_00

What Lord of the Rings and EDM?

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

It's like, isn't it all like Piccolo's like I I don't see how those two mix.

SPEAKER_01

Everyone's everyone's gonna be like dressed up in the costumes. Just get into it. And people just love like the EDM music more and more. And so to combine those two together, I mean, I don't know if I don't know if they're playing like the Piccolo the whole time. But it's they might incorporate that in there a little bit, but no, I think where we're at, like, I mean, the Lord of the Rings movies are kind of like Star Wars, like, even like the young generation probably likes it. So, and they're the ones that are into like the EDM. So, yeah, it's a great combo.

SPEAKER_00

It's gonna be gross. It's gonna be gross. A bunch of barefoot people dressed as hobbits, sweating it out at a rave. That's that place is gonna smell just horrific.

SPEAKER_01

Great experience, though.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, yeah, it's the experience, right? But yeah, apparently they're gonna be playing rare gems and beloved classics with lots of 70s and 80s disco. Again, disco, Lord of the Rings. I don't see this. Where what am I missing here?

SPEAKER_01

I like it being kind of something different though, something unique.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, the name fits Wooden Wisdom because I think of Lord of the Rings, think about the nature and wood. Yeah. The little uh trees, the the what are they called? The the antsing willows. No, what that's Harry Potter, I know. You dork. Talking about Harry Potter. Um, but here you go. Attendees are encouraged to come and cost them. Yeah. Um, and tickets in a highly anticipated show are already sold out online. You missed your shots. No, I know.

SPEAKER_01

It it it could have it couldn't have lasted five minutes before those things were sold out.

SPEAKER_00

So, you know, it begs the question, man. So outside of Elijah Wood doing a Lord of the Rings rave, what actors would you want to see DJing in their character? And what's like the the theme?

SPEAKER_01

You know who I think I I I got one movie in mind, but I'm kind of trying to think of other movies that he's in. But you know who I would love to see DJing? Terry Cruz. And if he's in like idiocracy when he's Oh, he's the the president?

SPEAKER_00

Yes. Okay. Yes. That's a very niche the murderings is widescope. But I mean idiocracy's got a cult cult following. It does.

SPEAKER_01

But I don't know, just I mean, he he's funny, he's he'd get out there at very flame point. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, he would so get into it. I don't know, part of me was kind of like the longest yard. He's eating them hamburgers all the time. You're just Terry Cruz all the way. No, I thought the one that came to mind, it's kind of culty again. I think it was so popular, but dude, how could you not want like David Spade as Joe Dirt? Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, you just play country music and EDM, just so then you'd meld those together. I can see that. Kid Rock could make an appearance. He was in Joe Dirt.

SPEAKER_01

That's right, he was.

SPEAKER_00

Dennis Miller could come in there. He could. Yeah. That'd be a weird EDM host. He's just talking like this the entire time. That sounds like a great EDM raid music.

SPEAKER_01

And then you add the dubstep after that, you know?

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god. My heart would explode. Nah, man, I've got a few here for that I think would be hilarious. I don't know if I'd want to go, but I'd love to see it happen. Um God, I had one and I lost it. You know, I'd love to see a Star Wars EDM. That would be hilarious. And then you could have Mark Campbell or Harrison Ford, but those guys are so old they wouldn't know what they're doing. No. You have to get like Adam Driver doing the whole um uh solo, the the whatever Ben Solo or whatever it is. Um and like, you know, that would I'm I'm just thinking about what would be a moneymaker. I mean, a Star Wars EDM that would make just money hand over for Harry Potter would be another one.

SPEAKER_01

Harry Potter would be huge. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Daniel Ratcliffe doing the DJ in there.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. As Harry, he seems like someone that actually I feel like one of those actors probably enjoys something like doing like an EDM or like a DJ type thing. I could see that. Like, couldn't you think uh Ron Weasley? Seems like he might be.

SPEAKER_02

Ron, Ron Weasley.

SPEAKER_00

Everybody's on somebody dressed, they all think they have the cloak of invisibility, like, oh, I'm invisible.

SPEAKER_01

They all got like the wands and they're just like saying all these spells, everyone, hey, you're not doing this.

SPEAKER_00

Uh what's the little the little thing that they try and catch that looks like a little golden fly?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I can't remember. Everybody thinks they're chasing that thing around, like, oh, they got their brooms. They've got that. Or they get like a like a light show kind of going to where like you see like a uh hologram image going around and seeing if people are gonna like chase after it. Yeah. Well, then you've got like the quid itch you could add to it. Quit itch. Quit itch. Quit itch. That's a sport we could play, you know. I don't want to play quid itch. You don't want to play quid itch?

SPEAKER_00

I don't want to ride around on a broom. Are you freaking crazy? It's the dumbest looking. So this is my life, yeah. It's almost like those those guys that do that hobby horsing instead of like actually riding horsing. You've seen this.

SPEAKER_01

It's it's nuts.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, well, how's that any different than playing Quidditch?

SPEAKER_01

No, I know. I was kind of being facetious.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you better be facetious.

SPEAKER_01

No, I would never be facetious right in your face. I we watched uh I watched like a highlight because I think I told you the uh one of the like the sports pleques right down the road held like the national championships. Um, and so it was like, well, let's I want to kind of watch some videos. I can't make sense of how you score, but it's just uh why you have to have like a broomstick in between your legs when you're doing everything. Like, what is the point?

SPEAKER_00

No, no, but I'll give you one more another actor slash theme, okay, EDM rave, Johnny Depp, Pirates of the Curie. I was thinking that too. How great would that be? Yes. I mean, like you've got the soundtrack that always like you drop that in some EDM. Yeah. And you got Johnny on the freaking turntables. He's probably on the same drugs as you. He's like, yeah, alright, let's go. I made an inward her go crazy. Yeah. Everyone just like, yeah, she pooped in my bed. Oh man. Yeah, like I would go to that. I mean, like, and you you know, the the costumes speak for themselves. And uh, I mean, who doesn't like to see a sexy pirate? Man or woman, right? Right, yeah, who cares?

SPEAKER_01

Jack Sparrow was looking uh, you know, we had like the brave liner and everything.

SPEAKER_00

Everybody'd get the makeup on. I mean, women could be Jack Sparrow, men could be Jack Sparrow, yeah. It f it fits an EDM rave perfectly seamlessly. Yeah. So let's corner the market. Yep. Can I put this in patent bidding? Jimbo's dad used to work at a patent office. Jimbo, get your dad to give me the patent on the Pirate Security and EDM rave, please. Have you ever been to a rave?

SPEAKER_01

I have not actually.

SPEAKER_00

Never been to a rave?

SPEAKER_01

No. And that is something that is high on my wife's list. Really? Yes. She's kind of gotten me into uh a little bit of like that EDM type music lately. Um and so yeah, but she's she's like, I just want to experience it like once. I'm like, it's that's the last place I want to go. Yeah, that doesn't seem like a Semco crowd.

SPEAKER_00

Not at all.

SPEAKER_01

Which is funny, because you like the music. I do. I don't know. I I don't I mean I would want to go to like a even like a concert, but even like a concert, I don't I just kind of like want to like watch the band. I'm not too into getting into it. It'd be like people watching a rave. So I'm not really taking part in the rave.

SPEAKER_00

So I don't see you in a mosh pit and like a row concept. Like I'll look from my assigned seat, thank you very much. Yes, and I will sit down for most of it. You're like, excuse me, that is my seat. I am in F12, not you.

SPEAKER_01

I paid for these seats specifically because of the angle interview.

SPEAKER_00

There's like four rows that are empty right in front of you, and you're like, no, no, no, but this is my seat.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

This is my seat. Without rules, there would be chaos. Yeah, it's been a while since I've been to a rave, but uh they're just chaos. I'm sure.

SPEAKER_01

Absolute chaos. Or is it more uh like intense than because I think you tell us sort of how you were in like a mosh pit or close to it? Is it like more intense than like that?

SPEAKER_00

Or it's a different, it's it's much more friendly, let's put it that way. Okay, yes. Yes, because everybody's just having and you bump it everyone. It's like in a mosh pit, you bump it at somebody, you're getting an elbow to the face, you're getting a kick. Yeah. My personality, I I bump into You're getting groped. Yes. I'm getting I'm getting like assaulted in a very different way. And depending on who the uh the perpetrator is, you're like, well, we've got to see where this goes. Or the other, get out of me. It's like, I know you're just like Jack Sparrow and so am I, but come on. This isn't a mirror. Jeez. Well, I mean, like, well, what about if we were DJs? We're doing the podcast and we got mics in front of us. We can write DJ. I think so. Yeah? What would be the music? Would it be EDM? Would you say I mean I guess that's all you do is DJs, right? Kind of.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But you know, you gotta get make sure you get like the flow of everything right.

SPEAKER_01

I would just like, you know, take our podcast and I just put a beat behind it. Yeah, and take some of like our best, our best clips. Yeah. Some of like our best like one-liners. Talk about the the the two-man bob slide.

SPEAKER_00

Two-man bob bobsledding. Gotta be like top, top, top top.

SPEAKER_01

That's about all it would be. Well, what would your DJ name be? Well, like I think there, I think there's like two that are like pretty, I think are pretty like easy. The first one would be like, you know, like DJ Speed. Okay. DJ Speed, yeah, yeah. Um, and then I think the other one would be like, especially after how I started this podcast, uh, probably like DJ Angry Bear. Oh, I like Angry Bear. DJ Angry Bear.

SPEAKER_00

You would you be wearing like a bear head like how uh Dead Mouse does? What the hell? You just be wearing with like the eyebrows pointed down like you're angry.

SPEAKER_01

And then maybe, maybe like midway through, we come back from a break and I'm like happy, and people are like, Oh, oh man, we made him happy with our dancing. Yeah, I don't yeah, I I wouldn't want anyone to know like who I am or what I look like. Okay, so you put like a dap punk. No, I couldn't do that. It'd get too hot in there.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

They got like robot heads, they probably got AC pumping through fans. Yeah, I wouldn't need that. But yeah, I think those would be probably like the two easiest names.

SPEAKER_00

They work angry bear, I like and uh yeah, like I was afraid you're just gonna say J Bear. I was like, DJ J Bear, come on. I do a little more creative. A little bit more creative. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

What do you got?

SPEAKER_00

I don't get a lot. Um I got DJ Brizza cake. Brizza Coke. That'd be my DJ name. DJ Brizzcake, and then I would throw cake. You know, you'd say like Steve Ayoki, like he'd throw food into the I would do that with cake. And why is it called Brizza Cake? And get really close, and when the bee drops, you'll find out. Or it'd be a different cake every time. Okay. Devil's food. Carrot cake.

SPEAKER_01

Angel food. Oh, angel food. Right? Light. Okay. A pound cake. A lemon cake. The cake will kind of dictate where we're going.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you know, the mood, or maybe the venue. Like, you know. Like I do German food in in in Germany.

SPEAKER_01

I think we got some legs with this. Yeah. I was thinking like DJ Forehead. DJ forehead. DJ Fivehead. There it is.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I was thinking like uh DJ Sick Balance. Sick balance. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

DJ Balance, and I'm falling over there. Oh, does I fall over halfway through the side? Oh, he did it, he fell over. DJ Flatfeet. DJ Pink. Oh, I'm on that. I did it. Oh, you just ripping on me. I got another plan. You get all these names for me. That was easy coming up with names for you. Oh fine. Yours is DJ Short King. DJ Shorting! Can't see over the turntables. Open to the crowd. I can't tell. So they don't even see your hand. They just see you raise your hand.

SPEAKER_02

It's like, oh that he's back there.

SPEAKER_00

I mean here. DJ Step Stool, that's your name. That's not bad. It wouldn't be forgotten. DJ Step Stool, where's my step stool? You could you could deck it out, you can operate it.

SPEAKER_01

You have like your pimp cups back in the deck. But you have a step stool? Yeah, it's like a step stool. I like it. I'd have to make sure I guard that thing though.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Because that those crazy EDM fans, I got DJ Stepstool step stool. Now he's just DJ. I have no step stool. And our act is over. Well, would you have any celebrities? Who do you think would be like the first A-lister or Gen Zier that would be uh attendance of uh the uh the DJ Stepstool EDM concert? Or who would you want? Which gen is which popular person? I don't even know popular people anymore.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I think only because uh she seems very popular, and one of the only few names that I know. Um plus it's already kind of a name that could just instantly go in there, but uh she could be DJ Ice Spice. Oh, DJ Ice Spice.

SPEAKER_00

That would be your Gen Z like guest DJ with you. Yes. Hated.

SPEAKER_01

I think that'd be some good poll. Um I don't know. I was also thinking of which I hadn't seen much from her in a while, but she was everywhere, but you know, DJ Addison Ray wouldn't mind having her up there. I don't even know who that is. Uh she was like on well, she had a uh Alani New flavor at one point. Oh, that's why you know her.

SPEAKER_00

She's getting your energy drink.

SPEAKER_01

No, no, she was also, I think, tried to she was all over the place for a while. I think she was trying to do like an uh be a correspondent for like an MMA event or something, and I guess people got like an uproar about it because they're like, so you're just gonna hire her when there could be like a legit journalist you could get to actually do it. Yeah. Um those are the two that came to mind. I'll be honest, I don't know as much Gen Z people. Um, but I don't know, you seem like you might have.

SPEAKER_00

No, I just yeah, I I'd I'd like I guess DJ for a Gen Zer for me. I'd just try and pick the most popular person, and again, I would probably just Google popular Gen Z and be like, okay, I guess I'm picking this this one.

SPEAKER_01

Um, I would take uh I would take oh I would really either want Charlie XCX or Tate McCrae. Tate Tate McCrae. You know, I'll take Chapel Roan. I'll take DJ Chapel. Even even after all that she's going through?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, whatever, man. Just because her bodyguard was a little rough with the 11-year-old. Oh, I hate it. It's like uh I hired this person. Why does this reflect on me? Like, I did not do it.

SPEAKER_01

That is what I kind of I actually thought too. I was like, why do you gotta make this a big deal and blast it out on social media to like tear her down?

SPEAKER_00

People because people have tearing down celebrities. I know. It's like the the the the world's favorite pastime. Yeah, somebody gets something too high, let's tear them the F down.

SPEAKER_01

And especially too, like if you knew Chapel Roan and she's like been pretty vocal about how she's had like some stalkers, yes and she's had some like crazy run-ins. And I mean, I don't know, not a parent, but it's like, you know, I mean, I know you want to like believe your kid, but they're 11. I mean, so if they come back and I mean, how do you know she didn't do something?

SPEAKER_00

Or like the other thing is like, yeah, that 11-year-old's like I didn't do anything.

SPEAKER_01

Well, did you?

SPEAKER_00

I don't know. But at the same time, it's like, you know, like you you could I mean, maybe you're just mad because she gave you no time of the day. You're just like, I did didn't get to see Shabo. That's what I think happens. And then okay, and then the the the guard's like, excuse me. Like, she's coming through here. Like, please move. Um, yeah, you gotta be careful out there. But uh, you know, Gen Sears, like I I brought it up, and I also brought it up because I wanted to talk about this. It's like, have you heard about this pout face that apparently they're doing now? Yes. What the heck, man? So it's I guess it's it's this this um decades duck lips?

SPEAKER_01

Yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_00

So they're they're making it kind of a shorthand for the generational aesthetic shaped by social media trends. I'm literally reading this off. I'm not making this up. And evolving beauty standards as it looks spread across the social media, boosted by influence, and this is how I know I'm out of it. Like Ashton Earle, no idea who that is. TV personality is like Love Island Fave, Iris Kendall, never heard of you before. And even red carpet appearances from celebrities like Lily Rose Depp, hey Johnny Depp shout out, that's his daughter. There we go. And Ariana Greenblatt. Oh.

SPEAKER_01

I have no idea who's Arian Grande. Nope, Greenblatt. I think the first person you mentioned, I think she's the one that's kind of like uh was it Alex Earl you said?

SPEAKER_00

No, it's Ashton Earl.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, Ashton Earl. I thought it was Alex Earl.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I know who Alex Earl is because she's tied to Tom Brady. Or she is.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my goodness. Apparently, Tom Brady. Tom's first name, basically. We just turned into TMZ Sports over here. Apparently, uh he's got no game with the ladies. Um yeah. I mean I'm not surprised by that. He's about as robotic as can be.

SPEAKER_00

Well, you like you you get that famous, you you these women just throw themselves at you. You don't need game. You just have to be somewhat attractive and and don't vomit all over yourself and you're fine.

SPEAKER_01

Maybe the younger generation, because I think Alex Earl is part of the Gen Z. Maybe they're looking for more than just, yeah, you're a famous athlete. I want to have babies with you. Yeah. I guess they want you to try it, them to try a little bit harder. Whatever. Tom's probably like, okay, I'm not trying any harder. He's like, I'll just, oh, who's that like hottie over there?

SPEAKER_00

She's not gonna make me work as hard, so peace. But yeah, I mean, like this, like the pow face looks so dumb. I thought the duck face looked dumb. I know, I missed the duck face. You show me some of these pictures, and I'm just like, why do you look like you're just unhappy to be here? Like, you just look like you're either, you know, coked out of your mind, not even coked, you're you're just stoned out of your mind, and you're just like, and I don't know, this almost sounds this almost looks and it sounds like it's like it's the complete defiance of, and I give I believe me, I agree that it's incredibly offensive and insulting when a guy tells a woman knew you were gonna go too. It's like you should smile. There it is. So this is almost like the complete, okay, you're gonna say that. I'm gonna look as miserable as possible, no teeth. Like, and I don't mean this just for a minute. I mean from into it. I think everybody looks more attractive when they smile.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Generally being in like a good positive mood, and like, yeah, it comes off as a more attractive look. I can't believe now, like, are the guy are the young guys, are they just like, dude, that pout face is strong Well, you know what else I blame this to and I'm reading this article?

SPEAKER_00

It's because again, they're trying to show off all this freaking Botox they have on their freaking lips. That's true, yeah. So like, look how big my lips can look when I pout. And I'm like, you look ridiculous. You look like a fun house meme.

SPEAKER_01

Why are you getting you know, my wife showed me uh like a couple weeks ago, uh, it was like a plastic surgeon and showing pictures of like someone that just had plastic surgery and was supposed to guess the age. He was 30 plus sometimes like right at 30, but it was usually 35 plus. He was guessing the ages, 28 and below. Like they just they look so old, and they're you're supposed to get that stuff when you're like literally losing the collagen in your face and like need the facelift. Like, not when you're everything is already tight as can be. Makes no sense to me.

SPEAKER_00

No, no, I don't I don't get the pat face.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's and it's also just almost like they just don't want to show like they're ever having any fun or any emotion, and they're like, Well, we don't want to like mess up our jawline either, you know, because Kim Kardashian was like, Yeah, it messes things up when you smile a lot, so I want to have like a younger looking Okay. I mean, at least when you're gonna like at least when we're like gonna be like 70, 75, we're gonna be like maybe not looking as good as they do when they're 70, 75, but we had some fun, we smiled, yeah, we like had some good experiences or something. We didn't just like sit there and pretend like we're angry all the time.

SPEAKER_00

I look up at pictures of me and my family. It's like I'm like, look how happy we look. Not like, wow, look at my jawline. Fantastic.

SPEAKER_01

You're not?

unknown

No.

SPEAKER_01

Not look at your jawline. I got a strong jawline anyways, I can smile. Tom Brady'd be jealous of that jawline. Yes, he would. I knew it from he's had work done when he was playing. Oh, you think so? Well, you see those like when he got drafted, and as I do like the year-by-year picture. Yeah. I mean, I know he's on that new diet, but that jawline is like TB12's height, man. Tight. Can't be done when you're like 38.

SPEAKER_00

What happens when you're married to a supermodel? She's like, all right, this is what we have to do. We have to take a little hammer and we have to just hit you in the face.

SPEAKER_01

They probably were doing that a lot earlier than like all the fads now.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. But um, I know that we we were like, I when we looked at this outline, we were like, we're not, we're like, what's it gonna be a fast one?

SPEAKER_01

I'm so tired, and I'm like, oh great, we'll have a short one today.

SPEAKER_00

Nope, not so fast, my friends. We got some funny stories. Can I get to one more? I'll let you pick. We we we marked off two of these. I'll let you pick which one you want to do.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, I think we might have to go to the Florida.

SPEAKER_00

I knew you were gonna say the Florida, because you got something to say about this. But uh, you know, we'll bring it back to you know, uh Florida getting bounced. Um, you know, a lot of those guys uh don't have a job to do. Well, you guys can just follow the path of uh a Pensacola young lady who decided that um she's just gonna rent out Airbnbs and um just make her way to it. So I I I I don't even know where to start with this. Um according to uh a news outlet in Pensacola, Florida, um a woman has been charged with two counts of felony, criminal mischief after allegedly urinating on furniture and household items inside two Airbnb homes in downtown Pensacola. Investigators say the acts were not accidental. Whoops, this isn't the bathroom. This is a love seat. They had the arrest report states that she was filming herself urinating on these items throughout the properties and later uploading the videos to an adult contact platform. Um you can fill in the blanks there, allegedly to generate income.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00

This is just disgusting. You know, I like my wife's on a tear right now of like being very Tremidacious about going into Airbnbs because there's all those like dateline stories about cameras everywhere. Yeah. And what are you doing?

SPEAKER_01

I like too.

SPEAKER_00

Um This is this is w the this is like the the rules are reversed. The the the Airbnbers are like, I gotta worry about coming in here and just peeing on my stuff. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's it's one of those like landlords and tenants, like you just they can be bad both ways, man. But this is just do people can people please grow some shame or also just care about other fellow individuals. Someone is nice enough to rent their house out for you to stay in, and that's how you treat their place? My god.

SPEAKER_00

Well, and I'm gonna like I'm gonna bring this up because I I mentioned the whole like being fearful of like cameras. Yeah. I'm sorry, but how else did they catch her unless they have cameras in their house? Can you imagine being the Airbnb guy that's like, hey, a restless woman, uh she peed all over my stuff? It's like, okay, how do you know? Well, it's like, well, it's because I was secretly filming her? Like, how do you find out?

SPEAKER_01

Well, I was thinking maybe Or they just come home, it's like this place smells like piss. And it's not cat pee, that's human pee.

SPEAKER_00

Because you can differentiate. You're like, nope, yeah, that's uh that's a uh 27-year-old female, Caucasian, most likely. It smells like she had asparagus the other night.

SPEAKER_01

Well, that you would definitely, definitely point out. No, well then you've never been really around a cat if you can't tell cat.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, okay, you're right. I do not have the cat pee uh gene, sorry. But seriously, how do they find out?

SPEAKER_01

Like Well, you said that she videotaped it and put it up on the site. Maybe the homeowner will come on this. It's like that looks a lot like my couch. That's my that's my lamp.

SPEAKER_00

Recognize that lamp anywhere.

SPEAKER_01

Holy crap, that was my house.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and then you gotta explain that to like the spouse. Honey, this is what was repeated. How'd you find out? I don't know. Uh friend told me.

SPEAKER_01

He specifically he sent it to me, and I don't know where he found it, but look what happened.

SPEAKER_00

But they um they they they post this woman's name and her face. She's gonna get so much more fandom because of this. Absolutely. Congratulations, you guys fed it to her.

SPEAKER_01

She's gonna make so much more money on that site because now people are gonna request for her to just pee on something for her.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, of course. But I mean, yeah. Three three thousand dollars worth of damage. Uh items reportedly included um an antichair. I don't even know. How does she a typewriter? Come on. Coffee maker? You can't make coffee in there anymore. This is some. Oh, that's in the trash. This is a bitter roast that I'm drinking right now. I'm selling the house. Toaster, television, record player, and then the betting in a rug. Yeah. She could probably say, betting in a rug, I just I am incontinent, I'm sorry. But it's like, okay, I get that, but why the typewriter? Why'd you pee on my typewriter? You can't use that anymore.

SPEAKER_01

Toaster? Yeah, this I mean.

SPEAKER_00

It's just more egregious when it's like food and drinks. Like, I know it's like I could possibly get past, okay, you pee on my couch, that sucks. You're never gonna get rid of here, but it's like I use that to make coffee.

SPEAKER_01

I know. It's like personal at that point. It's almost like an attack.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Disgusting.

SPEAKER_01

But you did you did mention how uh you know, people have like mistaken, you know, rooms for a toilet. Yes. Um I it happens to everybody, Samko.

SPEAKER_00

Does it? It does. Does it happen to everybody? Everybody had a moment in time where you know they it's dark and they're they're they're fumbling around in a a venue that they're less familiar with.

SPEAKER_01

That's true. You're very true. You're very right about that.

SPEAKER_00

And um, you know, when nature calls, nature calls, my friend.

SPEAKER_01

No doubt. Yes. And yeah, you're right. You just uh you just don't even try to flip out a on a light, you just figure you know where you are. This this feels like a bathroom right here.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. So I think I know what you're referring to. Of course. I will own up to uh owning this. Uh I happen to be a I'd be uh apparently I'm a part of this very eclectic crew of Airbnb peers. I will say you didn't do it on purpose and film it for I mean geez, if I knew I could get paid, my God, like you could have been filming me the whole time. We really should have. Yeah, I'm surprised you didn't. I think we were I think that yeah, I was lucky that you were the one who found me. Me and Jimbo. Yeah, and Jimbo is was my best man. So for the background, guys, you know, well, me and this this wonderful group of friends, we have uh our annual fellows' annual getaway that we used to go to. And uh one time we rented out a very nice brown stone in the middle of downtown Beamore. Yep. Um very unique space, had um, you know, uh exposed brick. Yep, beautiful, uh great layout, great, you know, uh accoutrements, and it was very close to the stadium they were gonna go watch the games. Yeah, and um we were celebrating obviously our our annual getaway. This was my subsequent like uh bachelor party right before my wedding. I was surprised that I got there. Uh I wouldn't tell anybody except for I think one or two people. I think you were surprised. I don't think you know. I didn't know you were coming, no. But um, as you do at bachelor parties, you know, drinks were had at an early time, and I didn't even make it to the evening endeavors. I was exhausted. I'd flown across the country. I'll give you that. You were on not a lot of sleep. Not a lot of sleep. The time difference was brutal, and you know, I I had a bit to drink early, so I went to bed early.

SPEAKER_01

After right after, though, we went to uh we were intending to go to the game. Yes. And we went to uh what's the famous place where we always pickles to have a few drinks, and um we knew we were in trouble when uh so I believe we were all dressed up as Waldo. I think we were, yes, yes. Um and it was uh one of the guys that came up with us was actually a friend of DW's, not much of us had really known about him. I think his name was Andrew. And uh he was a bit like loud and trying to fit in, and at some point you were already getting kind of rowdy with people and kind of pulling the story you told earlier about the guy, being like, What are you looking at me like that for? You were already kind of pulling that. So we were like, we already know he's close. I'm tired, but uh when you thought that Andrew was a little mentally challenged, or do you not know he's I don't remember this? Oh my gosh. So we're like, we gotta get Brandon, like we gotta get you home, like we gotta put you to bed. Like you're starting, you're starting a ruckus. Yes. Um, and so like I think Andrew was trying to kind of help you, and he's like, hey, come on, buddy, like let's do this. And I don't know whether it's because he was in the Waldo suit, you didn't know him or something, but you were just like halfway crying, like I I mean, I I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_00

Like, I mean, it happens on a sparing amount of times, but when people take care of me, I'm very appreciative.

SPEAKER_01

But you just were kind of like, man, like I was like, Man, you're just great. Like you being out and and doing everything that you're doing, you know, keep it up, man. Like, I'm proud of you.

SPEAKER_00

Like, what I think it was maybe because I was like, you're it was my initiation. Like, I'm glad you're out here with the team. I don't think I that was meant any challenge, but okay. It's okay.

SPEAKER_01

It's it's a thick. Maybe other people will give feedback as to what was happening. But yes, on the way back, uh you you know, you were being handled, you really didn't care that you were being taken home. That was like our biggest thing, was we didn't want you to be like, no, I want to go to that game and like run away. Ready to go. So yeah, we uh we ended up walking you home and putting you to bed. Um and so This is a two-story brownstone. Two-story brownstone. Um, and you know, the game starts at like seven, and so we probably put you to bed at like six thirty or something. And after that, I don't even think half the people made the game. I think if we did get in there, yeah, we got in there for like.

SPEAKER_00

As this tributed as fractured court, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

We were all together for maybe five minutes, and it was great. We were taking pictures with a bunch of people, we were on TV, but this was I think like I think this was the first year, this was the first year I went, so I didn't know how it went. So I was I was stunned that like it's like bottom of the second inning, and it's like four people are like, we're going to the casino. Yep, four people are like, We're going back to pickles, and then the rest of us, some of us were like, Well, I'm gonna stay and watch the game a little bit longer. So it just it it fractured. Um, and then eventually it got to the point where as the night went on, you know, uh there were a couple of us that like me, Jimbo, and I think maybe one or two other people, we just we went to the casino, walked around a little bit. I don't gamble, so kind of came back and like literally like ordered a pizza. Yeah, and we're all kind of sitting there in the living room eating our pizza, and all of a sudden, we just hear what appears to be like a leak from upstairs, and we're just like it's just like raindrops falling, and we're like, what? Like, is someone up taking a shower, or like what is leaking up there? And then all of a sudden, like we turn around and we just see down this like dark, like black wall, just no, it's an exposed brick. It was the exposed brick that is just the water just trickling down what we think is water, and so like so me and Jimbo are like what the hell's going on up there? And we knew you were up there. Yep. So we're like, what the hell? So we run on up there and see that you're not in the bed. No, you were put to bed with your clothes on, by the way. Yes. Um so we obviously hear the noise still, and so you're we open the closet, and there you are, completely naked. Yes, absolutely. With your hand on the wall, and just thinking it's a bathroom.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. I mean, it was this closet should have been a bathroom. The placement of it in the bedroom. You're not wrong about that. That should have been a bathroom. It should, it probably was a bathroom, and I made it a bathroom that time.

SPEAKER_01

You absolutely made it a bathroom.

SPEAKER_00

But that or either, I thought it was outside. We have all peed on the side of a building at one time or another.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

And I I think I was just in my very uh unconscious state. I just thought that's what it was, and I just peed down the side of the wall. Thank God it was exposed to brick because it, you know, it disappeared by morning.

SPEAKER_01

It did. I mean, I think I think we tried to kind of clean it up a little bit, but it was like we're just gonna have to hope no one notices this thing.

SPEAKER_00

No one did. And no one shall, except for the people listening to this. But nobody was hurt in the in the um in the escapades. J Bear and Jimbo, you guys took very good care of me. You you've got me back to bed. And I, you know, woke up none the wiser until you guys reminded me in the morning. So all all good. And yeah, I mean, uh, you know, so it can happen anybody. The only difference is that mine was incidental. I'm not getting paid for it, and this woman's uh purposely damaging uh property and uh making a quick buck out of it. I mean,$3,000, she probably made that easy on tips off of this thing, so she's like, that's uh what's uh totally worth it and I'm famous.

SPEAKER_01

Which sucks because that's then people are just gonna be like, well, yeah, I'll pay the$3,000 for it.

SPEAKER_00

Well, yeah, they're gonna, yeah, you're gonna see uh copycats coming out here. But uh you love cats. You love copycats, and you love uh apparently caties, so maybe write up your habit. I don't love cat pie, sorry. They already said yes. So yes, you got you got uh you know most of my stories are embarrassing for other people. I'm all I'm like I'm an equal opportunist, I'll embarrass myself every now and then. Um and um, you know, for uh Papa Hunter, I apologize that you had to hear that story, but it doesn't make me any less of a uh a guy.

SPEAKER_01

No, man, we've all been uh we've all been in that situation. No, you you know, I'll give you credit. One, you were really tired, you were fed a boatload of drinks, and the way that house was set up, that room, the bathroom was so far away. So far away. It really was a different house. It kind of was. Um you remember like I'm just more kind of like you took all your clothes off. Yeah. That was kind of like the does he know that he's just like I you're like, did you try to find a bathroom and realize it's not in any of these rooms in here? And like, I guess I'm just gonna have to go here, like whatever.

SPEAKER_00

It probably was, yeah. I was hot. It was I I remember being hot in that.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, it was like dead of summer, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So I was like, I think I just was trying to shed the layers. Yeah. But I remember they hit uh it was like a metal grating walkway, and I definitely like bang my legs up and climbing up and down that thing. It it was definitely a unique uh it was a great place. It was, and we left our mark.

SPEAKER_01

Definitely.

SPEAKER_00

And we'll leave our mark on the podcast world as we continue this. We'll leave our mark next week when we will go over the next round. Um, it's gonna be an adventurous uh uh next recording if we do accomplish it because I'll be doing it on the road. That's true.

SPEAKER_01

We're gonna see if we can't get this thing on some video. Ooh. I'm gonna give that a shot. Uh it might be on a different, it's gonna have to be on a different day. I have a work commitment on Monday night. Uh so we're gonna try to shoot for maybe like a Tuesday or a Wednesday. I'm down. But we're gonna see if we can get that thing done. Uh so you know, you all have asked for us to be uh see our bright, beautiful faces. So I think you all are gonna get your wish. Yeah, careful what you wish for. I know, right? Thank goodness. Might not even pay attention to what we say though, they'll just be looking at our staring at us.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, absolutely. I can't blame them.

SPEAKER_01

Now I gotta figure out like what I'm gonna wear, though.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god, what am I gonna wear?

SPEAKER_01

Look at the Oscars, you know. Who am I wearing today?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, you just need to have your bigo bobble head in the back, and that's all they'll be staring at. I do have to think of that too. A nice little setup. Yeah, we gotta get the backdrop here. I know. Not a great backdrop where we're at right now.

SPEAKER_01

It's a great spot to do it, though. It is a great spot. It's just very casual, you know, like it's better than if we were like in a closet or something. Yeah, peanut on the wall. Absolutely. But do you have any last words?

SPEAKER_00

No, man. Uh excited to talk about the Elite Eight. Uh, that'll be done by the time we record next. Um, and it'll be opening day by the time we record. We'll have baseball in the full throws. Talk about the first week of baseball. What do we like? We don't. Our two teams are not ones that are gonna be fighting for that that uh that championship and the pirates and the the Nets. Well maybe we need to do a bet. Maybe we do a bet on the race to the bottom. Who's gonna end up with the worst uh the worst rank or the worst record? Between our teams?

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Oh, I think the pirates are gonna be a I think the pirates could be a sleeper. Yeah, you think they're gonna make the playoffs? Maybe. They've made the playoffs with less in years past. Okay. Who's your best bat?

SPEAKER_00

O'Neill Cruz.

SPEAKER_01

O'Brien Reynolds. How old is he? We got Brandon Lowe now. They picked up uh a couple other decent bats. It's not so much the bats as it is the pitching.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. So you got a skin, what, you got skins and Mitch Keller?

SPEAKER_01

No, we got uh what was it, Bubba? Uh Bubba Chandler. Starter Chandler.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, the guy that I won in the draft, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Then there's uh there's another starter in there. I can't remember.

SPEAKER_00

It's Jones, but I think he's hurt her.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, no, there's another guy. But then the bullpen's supposed to be really good. Look, I'm not calling World Series, but I'm like, might sneak into that last wild card. Alright. Maybe we'll give a quasi prediction. I mean, it's 162 games if we start talking five games in. I don't think that's gonna do anything. No, I don't think so. So we could give like some look little predictions, maybe a little bit. Yeah, we'll do that for like our teams, uh, maybe, and then we'll just kind of give who we do think will win, like, divisions, give a world series. We got two, man. Yeah. So we'll we'll get into a little bit of like the baseball because the Elite Eight, there's so there's fewer games, um, not gonna be as much to talk about, and there's not gonna be a fantasy draft that takes up 45 minutes of time.

SPEAKER_00

There'll be plenty of wild stories because we left about four on this doctorate.

SPEAKER_01

We already got that set. Yes.

SPEAKER_00

Alright, sir. Well, yeah. I'm ready to go. You want to send us off?

SPEAKER_01

Let's go! That's another episode of Undrafted and Overconfident. Thanks for hanging with us. The two friends have been arguing about sports for 20 years and still can't agree on anything. Hit that follow button, drop a rating, and follow us on Instagram. Ooh! Undrafted and overconfident, and we'll see. Got a new social. Different takes. Alright. Thanks, y'all.