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Veto The Podcast Episode 7 - Dispensaries & Dragons

• George Milton

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Our dastardly dudes visit a dispensary, fight an orc named Urg, and mispronounce the word "awry" on Houston radio.

It's Veto The Podcast and we've once again set the bar even lower than before.

Brent:

I'm just enjoying a nice Sunday with really good weather here in Austin's F1. So, um, ready for all of the, uh, way too excited Europeans to come in and. Overwork me tonight. Thank you.

justin:

And tog, how are we all doing? I'm ready to go. Rip Ro F1 Ver very fast.

Brent:

Yeah, I went, I went last year. Um, I usually have some friends, uh, some well-to-do European guys that come in for it. And, uh, they always get like, you know, really expensive box seats. And, uh, so I went to, I went one time, it was last year, and I kind of had the, I. Ideal red carpet experience of it. Um, and it was, it was cool, like the whole thing around it, the race itself, if you're not, if it's not something that I think you follow and you're super into. It it, unless the one I saw was a big time outlier from how it usually goes, it seems that the case is, the results are usually kind of locked in by like lap three. Like nothing, nothing changes too much after that. So, uh, people were really excited for like three laps and then after that everybody was just kind of chatting and having drinks while we watched cars go by periodically,

justin:

I think it's like more of like the Kentucky Derby where it's like the experience around it is what

Brent:

right.

justin:

to go to and go see because you know, you, you could see the race better on tv. Like you go there and you could see like one turn or one thing, like usually wherever your seats are. and so yeah, like unless I'm getting, I haven't been yet. I've been invited before and I wasn't able to go. But unless I the red carpet treatment, I don't know if I'm, I'm gonna deal with the traffic getting in and outta there. I mean,

Brent:

Yeah.

justin:

it. I walk outside and I can hear it.

Brent:

Speaking of traffic though, like, let, let me, let me throw a little, uh, just, you know, random game out there for, for the traffic side of things. Okay. A part of my red carpet little treatment here was the guy that had this. Booth or a suite, I guess, also had this little like transit service where the, a little golf cart guy came and picked me up and drove me to my car in, in the auxiliary lot. So didn't even have to walk from there. So I got to my car, not necessarily ahead of the whole crowd, but on the earlier side of that. So I was in my car ready to actually exit the lot. I live downtown in Austin, which normally to drive from downtown to Circuit of Americas is about a 20. Five minute drive or thereabouts. You guys take a guess at how long it took me once I sat down in my car to get from there to my parking garage downtown after the F1 race.

justin:

Say an hour.

Brent:

Four, four hours it took me to, it literally took four hours and I will say the first hour and 45 minutes of that, I probably moved three car lengths outta that parking lot. I mean, it was an exponential effect that the further you got, obviously the faster it would move, but like the amount of slowness at the beginning leaves one thinking, I live here now. This is how it is forever. You're just copying my story.

justin:

Yeah.

Brent:

I'm not familiar with that. Her artist.

justin:

People like they have big concerts at nighttime. Yeah.

Brent:

Much like the. WE, right? Like they, they come out before the race.

justin:

e.

Brent:

Hmm. I would've never guessed how long it took me. That's, it's absurd. I would've never, ever guessed that much

justin:

probably could have walked

Brent:

probably. Right? Yeah. Hmm.

justin:

it.

Brent:

Ooh, I, I enjoy that. Yeah. Let's, uh,

justin:

My safe word is banana pock pancakes. Oh.

Brent:

for each veto card you don't use, you die. Right. We need to use those. I've been, I've been using mine, so thank you.

justin:

I've seen

Brent:

I was aware I have not been to one, uh, but I, I, I'm aware.

justin:

It's the same shit. They try to say like, I've smoked it and I've gotten just as high. It's supposed to be less THC per milligram or however they measure it. But it's all bullshit. I mean, it's, it's all bullshit.

Brent:

Yeah, I mean, I, I will say as, uh. Someone that has experience with THC. Uh, I do find the sensation, the high from the THCA to be a little different. Like I, not so much that I could necessarily put a finger on it, but if I was gonna blind smoke them, I believe that I could tell you which was which. I might be wrong on that, but I believe that I could. I'm kind of, I'm kind of just inclined to agree with, uh, Justin's perspective then, then it's, it's just all bullshit.

justin:

It's all propaganda, man. It's the machine man.

Brent:

Like if.

justin:

man. The

Brent:

If that many explanations can't clear it up for you and make it more confusing, then like it's, it's obvious that it's, there's an intention there, so, okay.

justin:

What is out there? Love the roll. Roll the dice of destiny.

Brent:

That's you.

justin:

Definitely a, a how?

Brent:

Mm-hmm. We'll, we'll let it float for a second. Um,

justin:

we'll see how this goes. We'll see.

Brent:

yeah, I, I just want you to know I do have my veto card as a d and d fan. I still have my veto card between my index finger and my thumb right now.

justin:

I've got it in my lips. I've got it in my lips and ready to go. Okay.

Brent:

I call dibs on the misspelled Elvin wizard.

justin:

All right, I'm in. I'm the human fighter.

Brent:

Uh, do do I get to come up with a name because my character's name is now Elon. Oh, that's definitely one word.

justin:

Uh, let's call him, uh. Let's do what's a good human fighter named Rock Hudson.

Brent:

God, that's gotta be a real person, you know, like several times over in this country, uh, I seen.

justin:

I, I

Brent:

How long has this segment meant to go for? Are we just playing d and d now? Did we just change the show? Oh, you know what this needs to be like. Do you remember back in the, maybe they still even have it, but, uh, in the comic section of the newspaper, the Sunday comics, they would always have like that little episodic, I think it was like Prince Valiant or something like that, that nobody read. And it was always just continuing from one thing to the next. This could be our prince valiant, the part, the part of the paper that nobody actually gives a shit about, but we know it's ongoing. Uh, obviously as, uh, an Elvin wizard. Uh, he is, uh, you know, on the five foot nine, uh, height range and very slender. Uh, not very attractive. Just a, a hard to look at face on this guy. Yeah. Oh, and his underpants. Uh, while, uh, one might look at them and tell that once upon a time, they were the most pristine underwear around, uh, that this was many, many years ago, and they're now riddled with holes, particularly right in the taint area. Mm. Do you, you're not gonna see this when I roll it though, right? Oh, no. Mean, I'm just saying'cause I've got real dice, so. All right. We'll do it. We'll do it here. Oh, I'm just to reach here. We got'em. Uh, uh, then it's, it's a 10. It's a 10 on the one. Well, but also you gotta gimme a chance here to at least vocalize something because Elon is going to have to say, oh, I dare say Rock Hudson. I don't remember anything after that last drink last night. But we've ended ourselves in quite a pickle. I.

justin:

I see a really roughed up looking. Small person next to me that I'm not sure where he came from, but he's covered in his own vomit. Uh, he looks, has some pointy ears and it's a little strange. I must have drank in way too much last night. the underpants that uh, I am wearing is obviously SpongeBob Squarepants bright yellow, and they have a happy face on the back. They're my classy pair. Yes. That's the orange one, right? I got a one.

Brent:

Oh, that's really good, dude. Uh, also known as a critical miss.

justin:

I mean, it's been known to happen. It's a little squishy.

Brent:

Elon may have shit himself, but you wouldn't know. It would've fallen right through. I say Rock Hudson. That's the only thing that's more annoying than someone being so long-winded is someone that refers to themselves, the third person.

justin:

So his, which dose is that?

Brent:

Yeah, that'll, that'll be an eight for me, so not so good.

justin:

I'm a 16.

Brent:

Oh, wait, nevermind. I have a plus six on that. Minus is 12. Actually, I thought I'd.

justin:

I got a, yeah, let me look at it. Uh,

Brent:

It.

justin:

and it's, that's just the one dice. I don't look at the other numbers on the other dice. Right. Well, it won't let me. Yeah, it just, I added dice and it won't let me subtract. Oh, okay. Perfect. Ruing, my dear boy, ruing, I say.

Brent:

Well, you mentioned I had a. Dagger. So I want to see if I can maybe sneakily free myself. I'm looking at'em, but I think the most, uh, candid or the, yeah, the most candid, probably be cutting myself free behind my back. I.

justin:

I don't really have anything. Right. I'm like, Yeah.

Brent:

That's not bad. See my, uh, 13. I believe that's you, rock Hudson.

justin:

Excuse me, sir. I'm quite large. I've never had any complaints.

Brent:

Well, first of all, I believe, uh, they like to be called little people. It's quite rude whenever you refer to them and such. Um, second of, uh, who.

justin:

Dexterity. I got an eat.

Brent:

19 bitch.

justin:

Ooh, you are Dexter. A dick.

Brent:

So, um, question, but I have a question about this because again, it doesn't say it on this sheet. So I know that a lot of these spells would normally have requirements of either equipment or be, or having the use of my hands, which I currently don't. Uh, some of these are custom spell. So I therefore don't know how much what on these? I need my, I don't know what I'm able to cast without the use of my hands above a 10. Okay. But I could also use my turn to try to continue freeing myself. Yes. Okay, I'm gonna take a chance that maybe I'm gonna get hurt, but, uh, yeah, Elon is gonna continue to try. He sees that or coming. He is gonna just cut, cut the rope. Hopefully he can get free in time. Uh, and he doesn't do a very good job. It's only six. Um. I could use, no, pretty much all this is action stuff. Nope, I don't have anything. Oh yeah. Um, oh my Dex, uh, plus two man. Eight. Alright.

justin:

I don't really have, I mean I guess I could try to use my, uh, athletic ability to try to break the ropes that have been cut a bit already. I don't have any weapons. I gotta get to the long sword, if you know what I mean. Plus five strength 16. All right, so what do we gotta roll? I. 14 plus five is 19. Let's go try to, let's try to, uh, let's try to throw us on the ground and break the chair. Yeah. Yeah. Towards the table.

Brent:

Of us that took a while to finish school. Uh, er can you, uh, help with that a little bit? Okay.

justin:

I feel like since this is like the perfect time to leave us on a high note, why don't I veto. Until the next podcast and we can have a pause in the action. Leave them wanting more and, uh, get onto our next segment. Do, do, do break.

Brent:

Seems, seems like too soon for a break.

justin:

We can get, let's just, he's vetoing the break. There you go.

Brent:

Oh, this is the first official veto of the veto, isn't it? But we talked about, we talked about it. It was spoken. It's, it's, it's coming with spoken of. I'm kind of glad about that because I wasn't gonna use my veto on it, but I, I did have a perfect thing that I was gonna do that I might forget if I do it next time. So he's on the ground and he looks at his, his, uh, was it my leg that I got a slice on, right? He says, do you know cutting a man that's bound in a chair is pretty shitty? Well, you want to get shitty? Let's get shitty. And he starts waving his hand around and casting one of his stronger spells, uh, really digs into his force, digs out a level two spell, which is apparently custom for this, uh, chart. I haven't seen it before, but I love it. Uh, known as spontaneous diarrhea and, uh, towards the York. Uh, this. Target just starts to, you know, grabbing at a stomach. I suppose. You need to make a constitution save. It is a DC 14. If you fail at this, you're gonna be incapacitated for three rounds, move at half speed, disadvantage on all checks, plus, and this is the worst part. It's also deeply humiliating. Uh oh. His guts start falling through, man. Incapacitated for three rounds, move at half speed. Disadvantage on all checks. Deeply humiliating. Um, no, that's not what that means. Um, but maybe here.

justin:

out.

Brent:

Yeah. Oh, there you go. Oh, so he's shitting himself real good. Rock Hudson. Finish him.

justin:

Go with no clothes on. Even better. Let me grab my long sword and I will strike. Er, I want to cut his head off. So D 20 plus seven. A 20. Let's go. We are about to chop this MoFo's head off,

Brent:

Long Sword is A is a D eight.

justin:

It's a D. Yeah.

Brent:

Oh yeah. Use two Anna. Then you get a D 10.

justin:

two handed. So I rolled a 10 max damage. I'm coming for you. Yeah, boy. Well, it is got like a permanent five o'clock shadow. He looks. Really, you know, da Dier, uh, the hair is usually slicked back black, but it's a little, uh, disheveled right now after all night drinking and fighting some orgs. No, no. My gold. My what is, what do you need from me? Armor class of 16, 10 in underwear. Sorry. It's 10 in underwear, so does hit me. Uh oh yeah, that I put my clothes on. I didn't know if I had

Brent:

We're going like video. Aisle, like it just a flash.

justin:

Perfect. I love it. Misses me. Do my do a 10 sided or 20 sided if we got another 10 boys, 17. D 10 plus three. it'd be six plus three would be nine. Yeah. Suck on that sucker. And I do, I grab my sack of gold back since that little s. Would it be a S perfect.

Brent:

Sure is, um, like, you know, given the environment that I'm picturing in my head here, are there any like lititz sconces on the wall per chance? It's a 10. Okay, then I've, I've, I've totally got my thing and I'm gonna look at old boy shitting himself over there. I'm gonna use another spell slot for a level one spell. Using the grease spell cover, a 10 foot square and slippery grease. Slippery creatures entering or starting to, uh, turn in the area. Must make a deck save. Fall prone, and at least in most installments of this game, this is usually played as, uh, a flammable oil. So I'm gonna use my movement to go grab, uh, to go over to the wall sconce and use my bonus action to interact with environment, throwing that bitch onto the grease as he's already shitting himself. No. Well, he, yeah, like, uh, but he, not until he would start his turn, so he is not falling prone yet until his turn. Right now he's doing the, he's doing the, you know, on roller skates. Whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop. Just, uh, you know. Yeah. Although he is incapacitated, so, uh, he's not taking an action, but he would have disadvantage on this check. DC 14 deck save stays up. Oh, right, true. Yeah. Forgot about the disadvantage minute. Yeah. Uh, yeah. So, uh, it says the, the fire here would be 1D eight fire damage per turn. All right. Rolled. That is a six and on fire, like he is having a really bad time humiliated. And let's all just keep, bear in mind that this has all happened in the span of 12 seconds.

justin:

Let's go. So how many more? We got my gear. I grabbed my gold, grabbed my little Elvin sidekick, and I'm ready to kick outta this place.

Brent:

If you kill him, all the, all the goblins are gonna run for sure.

justin:

Yeah. Yeah, we need to finish ergo,'cause this dude was Shiting on himself. We need to get him outta here. We need to just get him out of his misery. I'm doing a double swinger. Double banger as I like to call it. Uh, bonus attack. I have a ring of, ring of the bear. no, I have an action surge. One per short. Long rest,

Brent:

it is.

justin:

my 10 pointer, right. Okay. All right, so we have a 10

Brent:

Advantage though.

justin:

advantage. So 17 and another 20 here. No. You want me to roll the 20 sided, right. I got a natural 19 doggy dog, 2D tens. First D 10 was a nine, and the second D 10 is an eight, so.

Brent:

Man, what a what a what a shitty way to go, and no pun intended.

justin:

shitty way to go. Uh, I go to lunge and I go to attack, and the first step is a little slippery'cause I slip in as shit, but it causes me to do a 360 spin away. And as I'm diving through the air before I fall the shit, I swing my long, hard, broad sword and I just slice right on through him. And as he guts gurgle out, he goes, oh.

George Milton:

Welcome back everybody. We are doing it and I took a really long time on my segment. That's what she said. But we're going to do, let's see. The Dice of Destiny are gonna tell us. One to three is Justin. to six is gonna be Brent. Here we go. a six.

Brent:

Oh, okay. Um, so I had this idea that, uh, might be. Fun. But it might be one of those things that's hard to necessarily think up on the spot without, uh, preparation. But, um, I, I was thinking maybe we could have a bit of a confession stand where, uh, we just say one thing that we used to believe, uh, that was like a stupid thing. Like, remember whenever George was, you were telling me that you used to think that it was windmills that made wind. So, um, you know, maybe say any, anything else like that.

George Milton:

hold on. Are you telling me that's not true?

Brent:

Oh, I thought, yeah, so just so something along, along those, you know, lines. Um,

George Milton:

the other day, the word A-W-R-R-Y-I

Brent:

yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

George Milton:

I used to think it was pronounced ri. I would read it in books and I would say RI in my mind.

Brent:

I, uh, will admit to doing that one time whenever I read a voiceover for a radio commercial in probably like 2005, and I pronounced that word that way and nobody caught it. So like I had to listen to it for like, and this was in Houston, so I had to listen to it for like two weeks on that station if I had it on there. Uh, and, and hear my, and that was how I learned that, that's not how you said it, because I said it that way and somebody corrected me.

George Milton:

That sounds like a recordings session gone. Ari, if you ask me,

Brent:

Yeah,

George Milton:

uh, Justin, you got any confessions? I don't

justin:

These are my confessions. Um, I don't have one.

George Milton:

confessed that. I don't know how THC works or what it is. I don't think

Brent:

that was kind of one of those, um, the funny thing is like, I, I, whenever I thought of that, I. You know, like dogeared a really good example in my own mind, and then I'll be god damned if I can even think of what.

justin:

I my, I like, I can't remember people's names to save my life. So a, there's something I could, you could tell me your name and it would just blow outta my head two seconds later.

Brent:

Oh, you know what? I'll back that one up as well and say I'm even on that boat. But if, and this is, uh, kind of just banking on an. Doubting that anyone that works at Pete's dueling piano bar for less than a year would even listen to our podcast here. But, uh, if you do ever get employed at Pete's dueling piano bar, know that, um, you know, while I'm happy to engage in any conversation that you bring up, I will, uh, be unlikely to give a shit about trying to start a conversation with you till you've been there at least a year. Just too high turnover of an industry. And there's a lot of very uninteresting people that come through there. And I'm just, I'm just tired of hearing. Backstories of people that don't really have any aspirations in life.

justin:

just want to get married You just you

Brent:

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

justin:

because

Brent:

go.

justin:

the small talk That's exactly what it is

Brent:

There's been like a lot of waitresses that have come through that. Uh, for some reason it seems to attract a. Like a, a class of, of young ladies that, that believe themselves to be sort of like a, like an entertainer or influencer type themself. Like they think they have like that it factor, but they haven't found their thing yet. So, um, yeah, I don't know. They're always talking about like, oh, well I, I'm gonna be, you know, I just have to hear, like, and I think part of it is whenever they know that you're an entertainer. I guess maybe they try to relate on some level about what, and so they tell you all the things that they hope to do or I, I don't know, but they're, they're not very satisfying conversations, so I, I kind of try to avoid them.

George Milton:

I've got the IT factor and I'd love to talk to you about it.

Brent:

Well,

justin:

have the it

George Milton:

got Brent. I think,

Brent:

but, but of course you do. George Milton,

George Milton:

I feel like I've got something.

Brent:

listen to our, our show intro for crying out loud, you know.

justin:

mean uh

George Milton:

show intro. It's gonna go on the first episode, but ju just in case listeners wanna know, the show intro just happened just now.

Brent:

Yeah. Well, and obviously if we ever get to the point where the, it would make sense to do, like, you know, some podcasts have the live versions where they'll actually have an au a live audience for a recording of it.

George Milton:

on us. Don't put that, don't put that juju

Brent:

would never, I would never, but if, but if, then obviously we're gonna need to learn a three man arrangement of that to be able to sing it live.

justin:

I'm in I'm in We can go full barbershop I

Brent:

Hell yeah.

justin:

link but I think we can get there

Brent:

Oh, we'll get there. We'll just, we just need to pan you left and right.

George Milton:

Oh, oh, here's one. Here's one. If we're doing con, if we're doing confessions, this is one that I've always wanted to make. So after, after college, I did, uh, I played a, I did a handful of like. Sport, like post-college sports. I played, uh, rug. I played men's league rugby for like two years in Birmingham, Alabama. and it was, men's league is like anywhere from guys who just graduated from college to like, I think the oldest guy on our team was like in his mid fifties and like a rugby player that's made it to their mid fifties is a, is a beat up, beat up person. Um, but. In two years of playing rugby, I did not know the rules of rugby. Like I never knew the rules of rugby. So like I watch rugby, like I'll watch rugby games now from time to time, I'm not a huge rugby fan to, so don't ask me like specifics about teams or players, but like I'll watch from time to time and somebody like Aaron will might turn to me or somebody in my family or something like, and ask me something about rugby and I have to kind of like. Without giving them the full, like they're, oh, you played rugby for several years. What is it? What's, what is it that they're doing right now? And it's like, I don't know. I know that you're supposed to get to the end zone, just like in football. And I know that you can't pass forward using your hands. You have to kick it forward or run it forward and you can pass it backwards. But there's, there's scrums and there's like all of these rules to like the contact part of it. Like when you're in a scrum and I don't know any of them.

Brent:

Nice. Um,

George Milton:

glad I

Brent:

uh, I'll,

justin:

rugby I know nothing about rugby

George Milton:

Yeah, yeah. But

Brent:

uh,

George Milton:

but it, but it's, it's weirder not knowing nothing about rugby when you're like

Brent:

on the team.

George Milton:

Yeah. You're like, on the team, you're holding the ball. I was a wing, so like I was one of the small guys on the team and you're, you're holding a ball and you're running and a bunch of people are running at you and you're like, I should know the rules to this. I should

Brent:

Okay.

George Milton:

So I, I never knew the rules.

Brent:

oh, uh, I, uh, I con one that I thought of a little dumb confession of mine. I think it probably wasn't until I was like 35 years old that I. Really picked up on the term canon as far as something being like established in a given universe. Um, I just saw, you know, it's one of those things where like somehow until your mind has locked onto a certain thing that it's been around you, but you just never even noticed that you were missing it, I guess. I don't know. But I remember it was actually Nick Jankey that said it to me and he was like, yeah, well that's not really Canon though. And I was like, well, what do you mean? And he is like, you know, like canon in the, in the universe. And I was like. Huh

George Milton:

Are you talking about a cannon?

Brent:

uh. Yeah. And, uh,

justin:

MCU universe

Brent:

feel like that's a word. Yeah. That, that's a, that's a word that I probably should have known, uh, at a much earlier age in life and did not.

justin:

didn't know the mandala effect thing that we talked about until we talked about it on here.

Brent:

Hmm, hmm. Yeah. Good segment. That one. That was a good one.

George Milton:

Can I, maybe rephrase this segment for specifically for Justin?'cause he's got. Three kids. Are there things that your kids have asked you where you're, that you're just like, like, dad, tell me how this works. And you're like,

Brent:

You got a bullshit your way out of it.

George Milton:

Yeah. you gotta

justin:

Oh, all the time.

George Milton:

change the subject. What's the most recent one or the most like one that

justin:

No, I think what I think the thing that's like. The hardest, like when you were young, you're like, oh, my parents are so full of it. Like they, you know, just say, I know why parents say because I said so. Because kids' logic is so pure and like to the point you can't really argue kids' logic, right? Like with us, we can argue the, you know, the gray areas and this, that, and that, but kids are so like. They know right away, like, well, dad, why wouldn't you do that? Like, that's not the right thing to do. It's like, well, yeah, there's the gray area that we have to do this to. Like, their logic is just so pure that you can't really a lot of times with them so that you're like, yeah, because I said so. Like that's where that has come up with come from because like, uh, there's no other reason. You're like, I know you're right, but I you're not allowed to do it because can't have you do it for, you know, whatever

Brent:

Yeah. And then, I mean, and I'm saying this is a non-parent, but I feel like then, especially as you get to that age where they start understanding the nuance of life and things become less black and white and then, and that's interesting waters to navigate. You know, a lot of kids get real kind of moody and emotional during those times. So.

justin:

yeah, it's uh, or they become exact mirrors of you and you're like, stop mirroring me. I don't like, oh, but the thing I don't like is what I, you're doing that I do.

George Milton:

myself.

justin:

Exactly. I know my oldest was like, oh yeah, dad, this is, I'm like a mini you. That's what you do. And I was like, don't say that

George Milton:

like, do I, oh

justin:

dude. Damnit, I gotta change some things now. Damn.

George Milton:

do. you know at what age I should expect to start experiencing nuance?

Brent:

Uh, it usually starts to happen by your mid forties, they say. So I mean, you're, Yeah,

George Milton:

up on it. Getting close.

Brent:

and you're gonna be really like kind of emotional and moody whenever you experience that.

George Milton:

Okay. All right.

justin:

called menopause.

Brent:

But anyway, that was, uh, my only, uh, little, uh, there were not only, but that's, that was a little thing that I was gonna throw in there. So, uh, I think that makes you roll the dice. And if it's one through six on a six sided dice, then it's Justin's stern.

George Milton:

Okay, here we go. Dice of destiny in my hand. One through six is gonna be Justin's turn. Uh, seven through 10 is George and 11 through 20 is Brent. Again, guys, you're not gonna believe it. It's a three.

justin:

Yay. of Destiny. Let's go.

Brent:

That's, uh, Justin, right?

justin:

I think so, right?

George Milton:

Yeah,

justin:

I gotta do something. Let me pull something out out here. Well, we'll, we'll keep it going on the same segment. And because of this international taste that we've had so far with F1. Um. And we're gonna be, we have people all over the world descending on Austin right now. I wanted to talk about, you've done some traveling, you guys have done a little traveling, whether, you know, Brent just went down to, uh, Brazil, and

Brent:

Yeah.

justin:

about some cities. Let's talk about overrated, underrated cities

Brent:

Boom.

justin:

Uh, you know, I am from the east coast originally, so I've right outside of New York City. I grew up and then spent a lot of time in Los Angeles, and now I live here in the great, uh, great city of Austin. So let's, uh, let's throw a little international flare on this as well. We'll do, let's talk London, New York, and Austin. go. Overrated, underrated, or perfectly rated on the cities.

George Milton:

Where are we gonna, where do you wanna

justin:

Let's start with, let's start with George, and let's start with London Jolly o London, because I have some friends over there right now for the Rams game. So we were watching football, American style, not real football, with your feet in London, so we're bringing London into this.

George Milton:

only been, to one London one time, and it was almost exactly 20 years ago. Um, and I had, I'll say a great time. I don't, I don't think the food, the food was not very good when I was there. I feel like there was a lot of, there was a lot of like fairly plain food. I like spicy food. A lot of spicy food. I saw Jerry Springer the musical. That was great. Um, man, I, I don't know. I, I thought, maybe, gosh, maybe properly rated.'cause I feel like I, I mean it's, it is a,

Brent:

Uh, hey, uh, I'm gonna, I'm gonna veto London because I've never been there and I wanna be able to participate in a meaningful way. Pick a new city.

justin:

how about la? We'll bring LA back into this. Have you been to LA?

Brent:

Yeah, I've been to la

George Milton:

I, lived in LA for a little

justin:

Stand perfectly. We veto London. Fuck London.

Brent:

fuck London

justin:

Anyway,

Brent:

right there.

justin:

so we're gonna bring LA into this, George, what, say you

George Milton:

overrated as hell, man. Like possibly the most overrated thing that I can. Ima like, I, first of all, I had an awful time when I lived in la. It takes, it takes you, you forget this when you, like Justin, you lived in LA for a while too, right?

justin:

18 years.

George Milton:

longer than that. Yeah, I lived there for one year and I always forget when I go back to LA that like it can be, you could be going to a place, it could be two miles away or it could be 30 miles away. The answer to how far away is it is always 45 minutes. It's always

Brent:

I was gonna say an hour like.

justin:

is, the joke is 15 minutes, right? But the only time you can get anywhere in 15 minutes is when, like it's super early in the morning or just random magical unicorn moments.'cause technically everything is only a few miles away, but it never takes you. You know, people complain about traffic in Austin. They've never been to LA on the 4 0 5 in rush hour

Brent:

So my last trip over there, um, I was gonna have a, like a, pretty much like a hole. Extra end of the day to kill. I was arriving in the early afternoon, like 1:00 PM or something like that. And uh, a good friend of mine is, uh, one of the supervisors for, I wanna say like the food and beverage stuff at the Hollywood Bowl. And he was like, Hey, well I'm gonna be finishing a, I mean, there wasn't anything going on that day. He is like, I'm gonna be finishing up my work day. Uh, come swing by over there. And, uh, you know, I'll take you on the tour and show you, you know, kinda the behind the scenes stuff. I was like, oh, that's awesome. So, uh, I land at the airport. I go in and rent my car and I look at the, the map and I was like, oh, cool. It's only, I, I don't remember exactly what it was like, what, four miles or maybe even less. I don't know. But I was like, that won't take very long. It took me like an hour and 15 minutes to get over there to, and I was. I could have ridden a bike and been here so much faster, but, uh, yeah, that was,

George Milton:

I just did, uh, I just got on Google Maps and did LAX to Hollywood Bowl.

Brent:

how far is that?

George Milton:

right. now it's about an hour. About an hour right

Brent:

Yeah. So there you, there you go. How, what's the, what's the distance though?

George Milton:

Uh, about 15 miles.

Brent:

Oh, okay. Well, that's farther than I thought. Yeah. Yeah.

justin:

did last time. We were there with the whole family. We were going from LAX to Woodland Hills, and it was 14.9 miles or something. Took us an hour and 45 minutes.

Brent:

But what they make, what they lack with, you know, like ease of travel they make up for, and like, like if, if you think a burger tastes good at$5, you should try that same burger at$15. Uh, it's just a better experience.

George Milton:

So I moved to la I, I moved to LA in 2005. I was having this conversation the other day of like, when, what was the first time that you, what was the first time that you had like, something so like some food items so incredibly overpriced that it like, made you nauseous and the answer was like. When I moved to LA in 2005 and you would go someplace and like people were still ordering Heineken, like Heineken was like the coolest beer to drink in 2005, I think, but like a Heineken would be like 15 or$16 in 2005. would like, I would be appalled by that price in 2025, but 20 years ago they were like, yeah,$15 for a Heineken. And you were like, who the fuck do you think you

Brent:

Yeah.

George Milton:

is, what

Brent:

I, what movie was it? There was some movie where, I don't remember what it was, but they were like, the line was, they're in a bar and they're like, man, it's really crowded here tonight. They're like, yeah, bro. It's$8 beer night. You.

justin:

That's, that's so real. LA is expensive. I mean, I do have, I, I have a love hate for sure with it, you know?

Brent:

So what is your rating then, Justin?

George Milton:

I

Brent:

I think it's obvious that me and Justin, oh, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt. Go ahead.

George Milton:

no, I was just gonna say strongly overrated for my what? What is your rating, Brent?

Brent:

Yeah, I mean, I, I'm agreeing with George and I don't hate it. I don't say strongly overrated, but considering that it gets like so much praise and it's basically kind of known as at least one of the top three, you know, like best cities. And I, I, I find the, the cost of living, uh, compared against the. All of it to not be a good enough balance for me. So I say overrated, although not horribly because there are benefits to it. I mean, the weather's amazing. Uh, I think it's cool just being in such an like affluential, uh, area that has so much to do with like where we derive a lot of our. Pop culture from in this country. And, uh, you know, it's if you're aiming to be in top tiers of society, like, you know, especially in the entertainment industry, like, so, I mean there, there's tons of value to it. So I don't feel like all that can be thrown out the window, but I still say a little overrated based on the all of it.

justin:

All the things from all the time.

George Milton:

had the most experience

justin:

I mean, listen, I have a love hate with, I love all the good things in my life came from being there. Um, you know, my wife, my work. Uh, so it was an amazing place to be for a very long time. It's not quite that anymore. Um, hence why partially why we moved. Um.

Brent:

I'm gonna be the first to say it. LA's changed.

justin:

LA has changed. Yes. La

George Milton:

it?

justin:

You were the first to say it. Plus, with everyone who's moved outta California and LA to come to Texas, um, we were part of the wagon train. I think it's, it's gotten to a place where you, it's not like even I go back there like almost every month still for work and, you know, I have all my friends and the people I love to see and, and we, even for me and my wife, we talk about it like, it feels more like a hometown to us. my actual hometown. You know, like I go back, I don't know anyone back where I'm from or friends that I hang out with or see. So for me, going back to LA is more like a hometown kind of experience where I'm seeing people and doing things that I love to do.

Brent:

Hm.

justin:

just, yeah, it's, I mean, the traffic is insane. The, the homeless situation has gotten outta control. They're letting, you know, smash and grab everywhere. It's just not, not the safest city anymore. Uh, you know. And there's a lot of, there's a lot of love, but there's a lot to not like about it anymore. So it's kind of like, you know, I like to go and see my sports team, see my friends, have some good food, and get out as quickly as I can. But yeah, the weather's awesome and it used to be an amazing place. Now it's, you know, over expensive. you know, if you're a working person, it's hard to live there. You know, like to buy a house and, you know, most of the people don't have to pay the high property taxes that we pay in Texas, but they, you know, with all the houses that burn down, they're gonna have to repay their. Their property taxes is changing. So people are like, I can't live here anymore and they have to move. So it's just, yeah, there's a lot of stuff going on that's not great anymore. So it's definitely changed. So I definitely think it's a little, now it's overrated. It was amazing for a long time, but now it's, it's confined its way back.'cause it is an amazing place with where you go for dreams and the beautiful weather and all the people that I love. But yeah, now it's just not the same place.

Brent:

I dunno.

George Milton:

Yeah. What do we think about Austin?

Brent:

the smog sucks there, you know, like, I mean,

justin:

smog does

Brent:

it's very visible.

justin:

when you can see it in the, between the mountains.

Brent:

Mm-hmm.

justin:

Um, but we got, well, before we get to Austin, we gotta go to New York City.

George Milton:

Oh,

justin:

I mean, let's do New York. How are you guys Spend some time in New York.

Brent:

Oh, Mani full. Uh, I, I've spent so little time in New York, my opinion is gonna be

George Milton:

I've

justin:

have to.

George Milton:

time in New York. Uh,

Brent:

and I'm out of fucking veto cards, so I can't even make us pass to the next city. We have to talk about it, I guess,

George Milton:

gotta talk about it.

Brent:

unless one of you guys.

George Milton:

I like New York a lot. We had, we had kind of the option ago before we moved to Austin there, we kinda had the option to move to New York for errands. and we were like, started looking at living there and it was like$2,500 for like a, you know, 400 square foot like studio where the toilet's right next to the stove and stuff.

justin:

Oh yeah, I have that.

George Milton:

yeah, I didn't, we we never lived there, right? We kind of were looking at it and we were like, we were like, or, or we could pay like$800 a month to like have a house in Austin at the time. Um, and like have a backyard and those days are gone in Austin. Those days are gone everywhere, but like it was, uh, I feel like New York is about, I I would call New York properly rated to slightly, uh, now I'm just gonna say properly rated. The food is great. Um. It's just like cult. There's so much culture there. People, people are busy and kind of ruder than I'm used to, I guess down in Texas. But like I do love a city with like actually functioning public transit and that. We only have a couple of those in the us. With New York definitely being like number one in public transit in the us so like, know, properly rated. I, I love visiting New York and I think you can get places pretty quickly if you're like, unlike la if you're like, Hey, I've got, you know, I'm in New York for three days. I just feel, feel like the amount of stuff I can do is, is a lot more so properly rated for me.

justin:

Brian, you've only been there a little bit. So what is your, do you have a negative experience?

Brent:

No, I mean, whenever I say a little bit, I mean like the longest I've ever actually spent time in New York was, uh, flying into JFK and having like an eight hour layover. So it was enough time to just leave for like a. Like, we, like went to a restaurant, uh, it was just like a diner, I don't even know the name of it. And ate

justin:

diners are very good.

Brent:

yeah. I mean, and like, I mean, it wouldn't, yeah, it was, it was nothing. That's what I'm saying. I got none of like, the experience of it. So I, I mean, I just have, I.

justin:

We have to, we have to find a client to take you to New York because it is a magical, place. I think on the world stage. New York is one of the best cities because of the mix of cultures, the mix of things that you can go see, the museums, the art, the, you know, the history that's there. Uh, the theater, if you wanna go see theater. You know, the only downside is it's so expensive, right? To live now. Like even when I left there something years ago and moved to la like moving from New York to la you're like, oh my gosh. It's so, it's like free here. You know, my$1,200 a month, 12 by 19 studio with the T toilet right next to the sink. Um. Back then when I moved to LA and you can get like this ginormous place for that in LA At the time you were like, holy crap, this is amazing. so like living in New York kind of. Sucks. But when I, when go, so I wouldn't wanna live there anymore. But like going back there, it's just, you know, going, walking around the city, hopping on the subway, getting somewhere, seeing something cool. Like one of my favorite bars is like the oldest bar in Manhattan. it's called McSorley's. And there's like. This little stove in there, like a Woodburn stove and you know, they only serve lighter or dark beer and there's a chair behind the bar that Abraham Lincoln sat on from when he was doing, you know, speech over the cross. So there's like all this like magic that happens in New York that you can't really find anywhere else in this country. Um, I do think New York is a lot of fun and the food is So yeah, it's definitely perfectly rated'cause I think it's rated high on the world scale of. Cities to go to and magic that can happen. You know, being up all night in New York, there's an energy that happens

Brent:

Oh God. He said the word everybody drink. He's talking about New York and he used the word energy.

justin:

yep. I, I, I mean, living there, I remember when I would leave for the weekend and go out to like my family's house, like in New Jersey or whatever, like you could feel it like you were like wired and then it would take you like a day to kinda. Not have that feeling anymore because it was like having too much coffee. But that's like, whenever I get into the flow of New York, you feel it. Like everyone's moving somewhere, everyone's doing something, everyone's going somewhere. It's just like, y

Brent:

you have to memorize this script? When you, when you live in New York, is it, is this like, is this like part of the the pledge that you have to.

George Milton:

man.

justin:

the energy, bro. so yes, I do think it's awesome. But then that brings us to, uh, you know, our, our, our place where we're all living now. This magical, uh. City that I never thought I would live in in my whole life, but it is a pretty cool place to be. What say you of Austin Tejas Jorge.

George Milton:

Uh, well, so I've lived here for 13 years. I will say that when I lived here, when I first moved here, I think Austin was. Hugely underrated, into, we moved here in 2012 and it was like you could still park for free downtown, anywhere. Parking was free downtown, it was before. All of the real estate stuff got crazy. It was probably a little underpriced at that time. Like, I just don't think that people realized what we had here yet. and I think that it very clearly. Became, overpriced. I would say like today it kind, I think that Austin has kind of gone back and forth between being, for me it's all about like it are we overhyping what it is or under hyping what it is. And I think that we've kind of gone back and forth, like Austin was acting like this shit before we had Circuit of Americas and before we had a, you know, soccer team and before we had, you know what I mean? Like, and I feel like we have. We're at, we're starting to act like a big city. Uh, one of the things I miss about some of the places I've lived and visited, like if you think about like Houston or LA or like New York, these places that have like really amazing like cultural experiences, I think that Austin still is still ki is still a little deficient in culture. Like I, I mean, we have a, we have a lot of cool stuff here, but I feel like. If you go to an Ethiopian restaurant in la, like if there's like a hundred Ethiopian restaurants and they're all run by Ethiopian families, and that's not necessarily the case in Austin all the time. Uh, and maybe I'm making like a, like a belligerent statement here, like something that's just totally stupid. But that's, I feel like, uh, you know, I, feel like Austin is properly rated right now, but maybe skewing a little towards overrated. But we do have a lot of stuff here and I still love Austin.

Brent:

Yeah. Um, so I think what you were saying might kind of be the case that like, yeah, there, there would be a lot more Ethiopian restaurants. I, it would be interesting to see what the actual, like kind of per capita, you know, skew would be of, of like, you know what, what? Portion of the population. That is because like, I, I don't doubt that for sure, like somewhere like New York is gonna be more diverse than somewhere like Austin. I think, uh, for. Comparison to its surrounding area and like the greater, you know, all of Texas really, and then even kind of onto the south. I think Austin, uh, you know, as well as Houston would probably skew higher on like, a little bit more of like diverse cities. But, uh, you know, I I, I find that there's a pretty good mix of a lot of different types of restaurants around here. If, if you're talking about on the. You know, like what types of, just cultures of food we have access to. I think Austin's pretty, pretty well stocked on that. Like, it just as, I mean I've lived, you know, a good bit of cities and, uh, I've, I've appreciated it here for that. Whenever you talk about culture and the sense of like, uh, a city having its own sort of sense of identity, uh, that's something that I think Austin actually does really well in comparison to a lot of, you know, other cities in the us. Like a lot of cities in the US have really kind of become. This product of just sort of the over gentrification where like, yeah, everything looks really nice, but it sort of loses its, you know, its identity. Uh, you know, but in Austin, not to say that we haven't had a lot of that too. Of course we have. But you know, we have a lot of things here, like our swim culture. We have unique things like Barton Creek, you know, Barton Pool, uh, where. People can go to and, and really even utilize that year round, you know, and we've got like the paddle boarding that's going on right through the, the heart of downtown where you can go in there, we've got the, the bat bridge, you know, that, that you can go see, uh, you know, like tons of things. Like, you know, you, you're hard pressed to find a place in the world that has as much stiff competition for barbecue is what we have here. Um, and even though we don't hold a candle to the likes of, say, Nashville when it comes to live entertainment, uh, you know, that's, that's a symptom of the fact that live entertainment's just not as big of a thing as it was overall, is what it used to be. So still in the, in the comparison game. Austin still ranks above most other big cities in terms of what live entertainment it has around. So, you know, I really feel like Austin does a great job at, at having that culture. But as George said, it's become very saturated and overpriced whenever it comes to the cost of living. Uh, we don't have the infrastructure for it on the roads. So again, when you're comparing to LA like, you know, if you've driven through LA Austin, traffic feels like a breeze. But if you are just, if you're new to cities in general. The amount of time it can take you to get from point A to point B can still be kind of trying sometimes in Austin, especially on like 35. So, uh, you know, I'm, I'm gonna have to say like I'm gonna rank it like sort of well rated, but maybe a, almost still a little underrated just because I think people try to just toss it in the box with like all the other big cities and saying like, oh, it's just another big city. And I think, I think Austin really has a lot of character compared to big cities. There's my piece.

justin:

Yeah, no, I agree. I think there's, as the newest Austinite, I am newly converted someone, like I said before, never thought I would live in Texas or let alone Austin. And you know, it's a really cool place. I think, you know, cities are great depending you make of it what you will, depending on what chapter in life you are. Right? Like, this chapter that we're in right now, it's like, you know, we have three kids and. Having space coming from like a city like LA, where it's way too expensive to live, Austin feels like free. You know, it's like, oh, this is so much cheaper. Like I couldn't have bought a house in la, right? Even though I do really well for myself and work hard and you know, you're grinding and you can buy like a$1,200 square foot house for over a million dollars in the hood where you have to tear it down in Austin, you can. to live nicely and, and do some fun things and, and yeah, maybe we, Austin doesn't have all the, the infrastructure that a city needs to be growing the way that it is yet, or all the cultural things. I know what you're saying, George. There's not like the bigger things, you're not, you know, you have a couple museums here and there, but there's not, but to Brent's point, there's. This unique identity to Austin that makes it a really cool place to be. And there's things that uniquely to Austin that you might not have as much in other bigger cities. Um. And was, you know, people always bring up like, oh, you live in Texas or you live in Austin. Like, oh. And I'm like, no, you don't understand. Like people down here are really nice. That's the biggest thing that like shocked us when we moved was the biggest thing. Like, people are nice down here, like for the most part. Like, they'll talk to you or say good morning or you know, you'll be in the grocery aisle and like someone starts chatting you up and you're like, what? The heck is going on. But like you come to appreciate those little things of like people just being like humans and neighborly and, and you know, the food scene down here is, yeah, maybe we don't have 30 of the same restaurants, but the ones that we do have are pretty fire. Like we have the Michelin star restaurants, we have these unique Austin experiences and these chefs coming down here and doing things and like, so you're not really missing out on anything. You're just maybe missing out on instead of 10, you have the two, you know, so.

Brent:

but then they're, but they're probably good.

justin:

They're amazing. Yeah, they're amazing. And like the lifestyle down here is great. Like, it's funny, everyone looks at like LA and thinks that people are being healthier, like, or, uh, you know, fitness forward. But I feel like it's more so down here. Like you see people out, there's like that outdoor lifestyle. Um, you know, especially where we live. There's always people outside walking with their shirts off or working out. Uh, yeah. And, uh. You know, I even got better shape being down here than I did in la. You know, just like, you kind of, it just gets into your head like you're, yeah, like you said, you're out there paddle born and you're out there hiking, you're out there swimming in the rivers. You're doing these unique things that you don't usually get in cities, which are all around you here. So, yeah, maybe it's a, yeah, I guess it got super hyped up for a second. Um, and it's kind of leveling out a little bit, but there's such cool things happening in and around the city, so I do think it's like. rated, but to your point, maybe slightly still underrated for people that don't fully grasp what's happening down here or what the city actually is, and maybe for the old heads who've been here, might think it's overrated now because of the growth. But you know, that's the natural life cycles of cities. They kind of

Brent:

It is.

justin:

and change and, and so you have to kind of go along with that and you know, everything. Changes eventually. But yeah, I think there's such cool stuff happening down here that, uh, I think it's just gonna be a place for years that people want to be. So, yeah, I

Brent:

Yeah. And also say like, one problem that I have a lot of, you know, with a lot of cities is, you know, the. Kind of concrete jungle effect where you just get in these big pockets where there just seems to be so little nature. And Austin's done a really good job of, of not being that. Like from right here in my apartment, which is in the middle of downtown, basically, uh, I've got the Shoal Creek Trail, right?

George Milton:

well.

Brent:

Ah, shut up. But I've got the Shoal Creek Trail right there where like you, when you get on that trail, you're just going through the middle of downtown, but it's done. It's you, you've got the creek and then the trees are kind of over. The top of you, and you don't even feel like you're in a city. You feel like you're walking out in the woods and you're, you're walking through the middle of downtown. So it's, you know, it's, uh, it's really great. Like, I can take a walk in, you know, the middle of the day, noon, 1:00 PM and go through a, you know, a, in a one mile walk, walk through maybe 60 yards of direct sunlight in total, and be just walking in the shade the rest of the time. So it's,

justin:

because I

Brent:

you know.

justin:

you lying to? You ain't walking out at one o'clock in the afternoon. It's too hot here.

Brent:

Uh, but yeah, got a nice shady path,

George Milton:

I'm

Brent:

but I, so I like Austin.

George Milton:

I'm gonna veto me saying that Austin was properly rated. Austin's underrated. It's fucking awesome. Here. You guys are making, you guys are making me want to visit

Brent:

really

George Milton:

and I am

Brent:

selling it. Huh?

justin:

selling you. You might, you might wanna move here, George. You might have a, you know.

George Milton:

a second. Look you guys, and you can get 20% off your move to Austin by using our code Veto 20 checkout. When you move to Austin today,

justin:

Oh my gosh. Great stuff.

George Milton:

move to Austin. That I, here's the one thing that I would, that I will say is that I want there to be more direct flights outta Austin. I got so spoiled when I lived in Houston and when I lived in Dallas.'cause you could just get anywhere in. everywhere was like$120, like direct flight from Houston and,

justin:

I think it's changing a little bit. I think in the next couple years they're building it out and they'll have more once they combine that south terminal in there and they do the stuff. So,

George Milton:

I

justin:

you know, I think we're getting,

George Milton:

I feel like Delta's really going for it in Austin. I

justin:

I mean, it is

George Milton:

to make

justin:

Amer, I mean, American has to, because of the, you know, right there with Dallas. So they probably want more of the, all the, all the tech and stuff that's coming down here.

George Milton:

So direct flights. Direct flights. And then we're there guys.

justin:

We're in

Brent:

And then we're there and then Austin will be,

justin:

overrated,

Brent:

it.

justin:

gonna leave. I.

George Milton:

we're gonna leave, uh, we're gonna go to the best city, wherever that city is. Uh, but where we're gonna go right now is off into the mystic. Thank you guys.

Brent:

wait, guys, uh, I, I do, I, I'm gonna preface, uh, the next time because I have a segment prepared, but I want, I want everybody to just, at least for just five minutes or two minutes, who cares? Before we do the thing next time, think of some questions we could use for this. So, I wanna do a, a segment called Hot Seat Therapy. We'll roll the dice of destiny and whoever this lands on that host is gonna get 60 seconds in the hot seat. The other two of us are gonna pepper them with uncomfortable questions that you have to answer immediately without thinking about it. After the 60 seconds are done, we can discuss whatever went, whatever was said during that time.

justin:

Let's go.

George Milton:

All right, I'm gonna queue up my veto card for this hard. Okay, I'm gonna give my, I'm gonna use my host powers to give myself like 10 extra veto cards.

justin:

Oh my gosh. Good stuff.

George Milton:

this is a real pleasure. This is always the highlight of my week guys. Thank y'all for hanging out.

justin:

We love to hang. It's our clubhouse

George Milton:

thanks, thanks, thanks all you listeners for hanging out with us today. We really do love you, like romantically, sexually,

Brent:

And platonically, I.

George Milton:

platonically as well. Yeah, we love you as

justin:

Definitely Brent. Definitely energetically loves you.

George Milton:

For all of our New York listeners out there, we love your energy, absolutely captivating, uh, and we will see you next week. Bye-bye. Until then.