Veto The Podcast Episode 16 - It's A Conspiracy!

Johnny King joins the bros once again to pop in for a quick McGriddle and McSpresso at their local Subway. 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

The podcast you are about to listen to was made by idiots and will probably make you dumber. Pregnant or nursing women and those with weakened immune systems should turn away immediately. All others, proceed at your own risk and prepare to veto the podcast.

SPEAKER_07 0:15

You've got a friend, you've got a friend in me. If I'm the kind of friend you need to. I hope I have a friend in you. Should it friend in you? Shoe up. I'm feeling okay. I'm pretty good. Alright. When your face is clearly in my side. I hope it's true. And I hope I have a friend in you. Should it friend in you? Shoe up.

SPEAKER_04 0:49

Hey everybody, and welcome to Vito the Podcast. The podcast where I believe in you and I know that you believe in me. I'm your host and your certified uh favorite uncle of the internet, George Milton. And I'm joined as always by my amazing co-host uh and my uncle, Mr. Brent Bobbitt. What's up, Brent?

SPEAKER_02 1:11

I did not know about that uncle thing. Yeah. Hi, George.

SPEAKER_04 1:14

You're my uncle. I just found out.

SPEAKER_02 1:16

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 1:17

I did 23andMe and you too. It's a news service.

SPEAKER_02 1:21

That's that's incredible. Um, no, well, it's it's even better to see you today than usual, then.

SPEAKER_04 1:25

And I am joined, I just found out, by my son, Johnny King.

SPEAKER_01 1:29

What's up, Johnny? Yay! Hey daddy. Yeah, call me daddy. Oh, wait, this is a this isn't that kind of podcast.

SPEAKER_04 1:39

It's that kind of podcast now. This is a podcast for daddies, mommies. Um, I want to be your daddy. Hey guys. It's basically summer in Austin now. It's like the first day of March. We're recording this. We went to the pool yesterday, not to brag. We were at the pool yesterday. Uh what did you guys do yesterday?

SPEAKER_02 2:04

You have a but do you have like a community pool? What's uh I mean I didn't see one in your backyard, but I know we don't have one in our backyard.

SPEAKER_04 2:11

We went to uh we went to the lifetime, we went to the lifetime fitness and they have a pool. They have like an outside pool.

SPEAKER_02 2:16

Is it one of the ones that have the little like water slides out there? Yeah, you know, I I the brokest point of my life, um, that was like uh whenever I was living with my parents in my early 20s uh after I'd moved back in for like you know a few months and was pretty down about things, but the one little piece of luxury that I kept for myself was a membership to this Lifetime Fitness where they had the outside pool area. Yeah, and I would go over there and pretend for like up to two hours at a time that I wasn't broke.

SPEAKER_04 2:47

Yeah, it's great, and there's a lot of people doing that at Lifetime Fitness Pool. It's a pretty nice pool.

SPEAKER_01 2:53

That's where you'd get your weekly shower.

SPEAKER_04 2:55

Yeah, in the pool. Exactly. Because they have the little this one, this one here has the little uh the little mushroom. It's oh yeah. You stand under it and get that shower. Oh yeah. I'm out there, I'm out there with like my body soap, and they're like, sir.

SPEAKER_01 3:12

Sir, this is not a McDonald's. This is not a McDonald's.

SPEAKER_04 3:16

Well, the crazy thing is, it is a McDonald's. That's the thing that really freaks me out. Hey, I was thinking about this. Is a drastic subject change. We're we're all about the same age. Are you guys moisturizing yet?

SPEAKER_02 3:31

You know, I I have always been sort of a uh lotionophobe, not because of any other thing that I just don't like the way it feels between my fingers. That greasy, like slip, can't stand it. Um, but ever since getting the you know a bunch of tattoo work done, I've sort of accepted that it definitely like looks clearer and better with the nice lotioning done to it. And that has opened the gateway for me to become more comfortable with using lotion for things other than you know jerking off. So uh it's I'm I'm kind of getting there.

SPEAKER_04 4:03

The word lotioning is the maybe the worst word I've ever heard.

SPEAKER_01 4:08

Yeah. No, it I had a I had a physical reaction when you said lotioning. Yeah. Like zero when you said jerking off. So I feel like my I I don't know, I I don't bel belong in the world.

SPEAKER_04 4:24

Yeah, lotioning. Lotioning is not a good verb to hear.

SPEAKER_01 4:28

Yeah. I I personally do not lotion.

unknown 4:32

No.

SPEAKER_01 4:32

I guess uh unless I'm going out in the sun. I I'm a little I'm a little bit like that on the ickiness, and I I never got over it, I guess.

SPEAKER_04 4:42

I feel like uh I'm half Lebanese and everybody Lebanese people are very moisturized people. Like Lebanese people will make a uh they do like a mixture if you're going if you're going like out in the sun, they don't do sunscreen, they mix lemon juice and olive oil and put that on their skin. So they're basically always half hummus, you know?

SPEAKER_02 5:06

Yeah. Are you making this up or is that true?

SPEAKER_04 5:09

I'm not making I'm not making this up. I didn't know that that like I didn't know that people wanted for years that people wanted protection from the sun. Because my aunts and uncles were always like, yeah, like olive oil and lemon juice. This is what we put on. We go out, like slathering themselves in baby oil and stuff. Yeah. There's a tradition. I don't I mean, shit. I don't like nobody in my family's dying of skin cancer. I don't know if that's I don't know if that's directly related, but they're just like, let's slather ourselves in butter and go out in the sun.

SPEAKER_01 5:43

They all smell delicious though.

SPEAKER_04 5:45

They smell yeah, it's that Seinfeld episode where he gets sunburnt and butters himself. I keep getting like I know that the I know that Instagram knows that I'm like knows what age I am, but like that's all I get is like ads for you should moisturize, you old fuck.

SPEAKER_01 6:05

So do you do you regularly do you have like a favorite product? Uh I need another sponsor.

SPEAKER_04 6:11

We are this is sponsored by So I it's not like I I actually don't I just use like coconut oil. So like years ago, years ago, I I had a friend who his family had like a chocolate business and they made chocolate with like coconut oil, and then sadly they went out of business, and he was like, Hey, I've got like I he was he was like, Hey, I've got like five like giant tubs of coconut oil, like f like five gallon you know, buckets of coconut oil. Do you want this? I'll sell it to you for 50 bucks. And I was like, that's yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_01 6:45

So I'm glad you got it before Diddy got it.

SPEAKER_04 6:50

But then I just kept it for a while. It was like it was you couldn't really cook with it. It kind of had like a I don't know, like after it gets old, it kind of gets a not rancid, but it gets like kind of an off like metallic sort of flavor or something. And I was like, I don't know what to do with this. And then I found out that you can make soap with it, and I found out that it's like good for your skin and stuff. So I just like, yeah. If I f if I feel a little dry, I use a little coconut oil. Some coconut oil. A little coconut oil. Plug for coconut oil. Yeah. Uh okay. We should start this podcast. I'm gonna play the inevitable inevitable. The inevitable.

SPEAKER_01 7:30

Perfect. Let's do the devitable.

SPEAKER_04 7:32

Definitable.

SPEAKER_01 7:33

Indubitably.

SPEAKER_04 7:35

Okay. Uh Johnny King, since you're our guest, I'm gonna let you pick what two numbers you want on the dice of destiny.

SPEAKER_01 7:41

Alright, I want three and four.

SPEAKER_04 7:44

Three and four? Okay. Uh Brent, you'll be one and two. Johnny's three and four.

SPEAKER_02 7:48

No, I'm gonna be six and one.

SPEAKER_04 7:51

God damn it, Brent. You just woke up on that side of the bed today, didn't you? We'll be one. Brent will be six and one. Motherfucker. I'll be five and two. Johnny King will be three and four. Here we go. That's a six, Brent. You best get it. Yeah, you get what you deserve.

SPEAKER_02 8:10

Um, so hey, I I was thinking that for a segment today, you know, in in honor of Justin not being able to be here, I I think that, you know, we're going on too long of a streak without having an overrated, underrated, perfectly rated segment. So I I'd grabbed a few uh little topics on that. Um in honor of Justin, I'm I'm gonna bring that one in. So uh one thing that uh you know I wanted to jump into on there is uh fast food. You know, with the with the current uh food prices going nuts everywhere, and uh, and I feel like all of us are uh maybe not, I don't know, but at least at least for a lot of the people that I know, the you know, fast food things where it used to be just like an easy, hey, I'm hungry, so that's gonna be the quickest way to get food to my mouth, now fast food has become so expensive that it's like it it you you consider it more than than you used to, I think. So um to to kind of like start with, I guess, the main one. Actually, do you do you do you guys know, before I even ask which one, what the most numerous fast food place is in America? Like what place has Yes, that's incredible.

SPEAKER_04 9:18

I I I would have I know that because I'm because I'm in the food industry. There's that would make sense. Yeah, there's like 30,000 of them or something.

SPEAKER_02 9:26

Yeah, they're they're like I would have expected McDonald's, I guess, but no, like Subway's got them by a pretty strong number, actually. So so yeah, Subway is the one I wanted to kick that off with. So um yeah, Johnny, well what's your opinion on Subway? You think it's overrated, underrated, or perfectly rated?

SPEAKER_01 9:44

I have enjoyed Subway for a while.

SPEAKER_04 9:50

Johnny's googling what is Subway.

SPEAKER_01 9:52

Yeah, because I am gonna say that I think that Subway is overrated. There's too many of them.

SPEAKER_04 10:07

Too many of them. Why do you think it's overrated? You don't know what?

SPEAKER_01 10:13

I think that it is too much of uh it's not good enough to be my choice of sandwich places. I like Jimmy John's personal.

SPEAKER_04 10:30

Jimmy John's is good.

SPEAKER_02 10:32

I like an owner that has no problem uh shooting big game and putting pictures uh controversy with a Jimmy Johns guy.

SPEAKER_04 10:41

Oh, I forgot about that. But you better be careful when you put your name on the restaurant, Papa John's.

SPEAKER_01 10:48

I know it's they they become problematic by putting their name on the restaurant. Well, what are you, George? What do you think of the subject?

SPEAKER_04 10:55

Subway, man. I have I have so many good memories of Subway. Like I remember when they used to try to make the inside of the restaurant like make you think of the Subway.

SPEAKER_02 11:05

Right, like they had all McDonald's or New York, like old school.

SPEAKER_04 11:09

Yeah, it was like the table the tables were like newspaper, like newspapers and like news about the subway and stuff. I just have many fond memories of Subway. Like Subway used to be, it's one of those that like um there are a number of restaurant chains like this that I that I remember them being better. Like I remember Subway being a lot better when I was a kid. Um back even before the Jared days. Like I remember like pre-Subway Jared was probably one of the most underrated things in the world. Uh man, five dollar foot long, like now it's like six dollars six inch or something. Like they had to change their marketing a little bit. So like like when like the five dollar foot long, that was an that was probably the most underrated deal in food.

SPEAKER_02 11:59

Oh, what a deal, for sure.

SPEAKER_04 12:00

What a deal. Because you could go through and yeah, they would skimp, but it's like they would go through and you could you could find the subways that would like that clearly had not been trained to measure by gram of you know spinach or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 12:16

Plus a lot, I think a lot of them maybe just didn't give a shit. They just didn't give a shit. Uh distribute ingredients.

SPEAKER_04 12:26

But I mean I get it. If there's 30,000 of them and they're all making like 200 sandwiches a day, if you use like it definitely adds up. But man, when you find a subway, even today, like if I'm if I am on the road, like subway is the is my number one pick for like I'm on the road, because you can get them at truck like truck stops have subway. That's why there's so freaking many of them, because they got all these partnerships of like there's a subway in in every like pilot and loves in America or whatever. I'm gonna say I'm gonna say that Subway is still probably underrated. It's underrated. Like we just don't realize we everybody's talking about like if you talk about like, hey, what's the what's the most banging fast food? People are talking about like what whoever's doing like Nashville hot chicken or like Oh sure, yeah, no one's subway. Like nobody talks about Subway, but so our whole country like runs on Subway. Like there's there's gotta be some stat out there about like how many people, like how many people are eating a subway sandwich right now. I bet it's half of America. Subway's underrated. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:35

One of my favorite subway incidences uh was so my friend Nathan, who I can have cold total confidence will never listen to this or any podcast. Um, but uh there was, you know, he he's he's known amongst us for like, you know, let's just say having a childlike innocence. Is that a fair way to call someone stupid? Uh hi, Nathan. No, shout out to our dumb boy Nathan. No, no, uh no, he's one of my favorites. Uh but no, there was a time we were we were uh a group of I think it was like four of us, we go into Subway, and uh this was whenever we were in a band together way back in the day, and we'd ordered our food, Nathan was last, and you know, he goes up to the counter and he's just like staring intently at the wall, and you're thinking, okay, obviously he doesn't know which type of sandwich he wants yet, and the lady's just waiting, like you know, impatient. You can tell she's like, Okay, can you order something? And he's like, I just don't know how big is a foot long. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:44

And uh that wasn't I see you, Nathan.

SPEAKER_02 14:48

And uh well anyway, uh, but you know, I I'm gonna have to like kind of split the difference between you guys because we already had an underrated and an overrated. So like I think I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to land on the average here and say, I think it's kind of perfectly rated. I would have several years back been happy to land on the underrated train for the exact reasons that George did. However, I don't know that I can necessarily fullheartedly put that into it at this point because uh I feel their quality has slipped over the years. And I don't know, maybe that's just me. Okay, that I yeah, it it's sometimes it's it's hard to really know if it's just sort of you're being cynical and getting older. But it yeah, to me, it seems like the the glory days of Subway are maybe a little behind them. That I I'll still eat there. I mean, I think I ate there as recently as maybe like a month ago. But um, you know, yeah, I'm gonna say perfectly rated. It's not someplace I'm necessarily gonna seek out, but because they're so numerous, you're likely to find one when you're in a pinch. And if you do, I'm in.

SPEAKER_04 15:44

Yeah. Yeah, but I feel like I feel like my thing when I'm if I'm on the road is like one of the things I think about is like, hey, am I gonna see a vegetable? Like, I gotta travel for work. I gotta travel for work all week next week, and I'm already like having anxiety about like, is there gonna be a vegetable? Just I just want to eat like a couple of vegetables.

SPEAKER_02 16:03

Let's help people with disabilities factor into this, but man.

SPEAKER_04 16:08

Okay, we gotta let's start from one. Let's go back.

SPEAKER_01 16:11

Hey everybody.

SPEAKER_04 16:13

Hey everybody, welcome to V to the moving on to the next uh fast food chain, I think.

SPEAKER_02 16:18

So um then like that's the most numerous, but then let's bring it on to like still, I think what we can consider sort of the big dogs of the industry nonetheless. McDonald's. Uh last time we started with Johnny to get the uh first opinion. George, what's your opinion on the McDonald's? What do you where do you think they fall on the rating levels?

SPEAKER_04 16:36

Man, um just because I I will say that I'm gonna narrow down my opinion just based on a single thing that they do. Just because they keep bringing back the fucking McRib, like it's like like it's the second coming of Christ. Like that just because of that shit, I'm gonna say that McDonald's is overrated. I think there are a lot of reasons that you could say McDonald's is perfectly rated, but like the fact that we talk about McRib like every year, like that I have to hear about the McRib is back, like that I've been hearing about McRib is back, like when did they start doing that? Twenty years ago? Yeah. And they're like bringing they're like, and and and then like every year there's some article about like, did you know that McRib is not actually made for yeah, of course. Of course I know. It's not actually yeah, none of it is actually made from the stuff that you think you're eating. Like, yeah, it's all like meat paste and whatever, like gross, overrated, it and gross, overrated and gross.

SPEAKER_02 17:34

Overrated and gross.

SPEAKER_01 17:38

So I have gone through the journeys of McDonald's where I thought I used to think it was so gross, but like I couldn't even the idea of it. Then I kind of dabbled back into it, and I realized I I like McDonald's. It kind of triggers a thing, uh some nostalgia from when I was a kid playing in the playground. And I think that I uh I I'm gonna say McDonald's is properly rated.

SPEAKER_04 18:09

But if they didn't let if they didn't let you play in the playgrounds, how would you feel?

SPEAKER_01 18:14

Well, they still let me hang out. But if if I got in the playground, I'm believing that alone. See I'm sorry. But they won't let me in the playground anymore.

SPEAKER_02 18:36

Johnny is probably one of the classiest men, m men of me, just uh just uh, you know, high class dude. And yet I think this is one of those things that really speaks to his redneck roots right here. Just the fact that he can do it anything. Because to me, I don't think there's anything in the world more overrated than McDonald's. I mean, I would almost rather starve to death than have to be forced to eat McDonald's. I'd rather I'd rather eat somebody else's old band-aid than put a McRib in my mouth either.

SPEAKER_04 19:05

Um, like I would eat a McRib before I ate a band-aid. I mean, so I gotta change my rating.

SPEAKER_01 19:14

Band-aids. Overrated. Underrated. Overrated.

SPEAKER_04 19:19

I get so sick of McDonald's trying to bring back the McBand-Aid every year.

SPEAKER_02 19:25

So, I mean, but the thing with with like McRibs, so I I can even say like I'll I can get down on some McDonald's breakfast. No, no qualms there. Fine with that. Especially even though it's one of the worst things for you, probably. Uh, the uh what do they call it? McGriddle. Delicious. I mean, can't lie about this.

SPEAKER_04 19:42

The McGriddle, the one that's like pancake seed.

SPEAKER_02 19:45

It's got like the pancake bun with like sort of the built-in syrup in there somehow. I I don't know. It's it's it's delightful.

SPEAKER_04 19:51

Um But no, I don't know how, but the guy who's the most down on McDonald's is like selling me on McDonald's right now.

SPEAKER_02 19:56

Only on one, only on one item, really. But then let me let me go back on the opposite side. Let me go back on the attack on McDonald's. You bring up the mick rib, which is an excellent point. So the last time I had a mcrib was probably like eight years ago or something. And uh they got me with their advertising. What can I say? It's all this, you know, oh, the mick rib's back, and they give you a little bit of that like fear of missing out, like, oh no, they're gonna take it away again. I guess I better get it now while I can. So I went and I got myself a mick rib. It comes out to me, I open up the packaging and everything. And then as I'm sitting there looking at this sandwich, I immediately notice I'm like, man, they burnt the shit out of the end of these things. It's all like hard and no moisture left. So I was like, I'll just tear some of that part off because that's kind of gross.

SPEAKER_01 20:37

Oh, then you'd like to look inside.

SPEAKER_02 20:40

Yeah, no, and you know, and that's I'd advise against. But then I'm like, okay, well, I got the burnt part of it off of there. So then I like take, and I was hungry. So I took like a pretty big bite of this thing, but as I take the bite, you know, my teeth sinking in well halfway into the middle of the because it's like that oblong shape, you know. And I'm eating that, and you just feel this distinctive crunch between your teeth of like those miniature little like ice shards where it's not quite so like I don't they must have microwaved it or something. Like, I don't think that's normally how they prepare a mcrib. Yeah, but mine was burnt on the fucking outsides and just literal little ice shards in the middle that you could just feel that slight little, you know, the feeling of like those little and so uh I I I spit that out, and that was the last time I will ever, ever, ever have a mcrib again in my life. But McDonald's, terribly overrated. Screw you, McDonald's.

SPEAKER_04 21:30

That's what's one of my funny McDonald's. It's not I don't know, not I don't know if it's funny. When I was living in Florida, I took a Greyhound bus home to uh Birmingham, and it's like a lot I mean, because you gotta like transfer buses and they'd go real slow. It was like a 24 hour Greyhound bus ride. And they made a couple of stops. I was, I mean, I was way younger. I did not think ahead at all, I didn't bring any snacks or anything with me. So They're just like stopping at, you know, random like bus bus stops, like gas stations. Um, and none of them with subway. And I was like, oh man, I'm getting pretty hungry. And they stopped at a place, you know, eighteen hours in, and I was really hungry and they had a McDonald's and I was like, Yeah, I would in this case, I was like, I'd rather there were plenty of used band-aids on the Greyhound, but like I was I was like, I would rather have some McDonald's. And I got I got like a Big Mac with cheese or something, I don't know, something like classic like that. And then the crazy thing was because I because I'm not like eating a lot of McDonald's, it was the first time I'd had McDonald's in years, and then for like two months after that, whenever I saw the golden arches, my mouth would start watering. It would just start watering. I was like, what did they do to me? Yeah, what did they put in that? I was like, I don't, I'm not even hungry. My mouth is watering, driving by the golden. It was the weirdest fucking thing.

SPEAKER_02 22:59

So see, I thought I honestly like legit. I thought you were about to say for the next two months you didn't shit right. That would have that that was what I was expecting you to say. Because that's been my experience. It got you just right.

SPEAKER_04 23:12

It got me right.

SPEAKER_02 23:13

Um, so let me let me throw a couple more out there before we move off the topic. So another one I was curious about. So uh raising canes. Um I'll just kind of openly throw that one out there. Whoever wants to jump in, what's what's the opinion there? Ooh, raising canes is because it's really gained a lot of popularity in recent years.

SPEAKER_04 23:28

It's kind of why don't you start, Brent? We've been going to the city. Okay, fair enough.

SPEAKER_02 23:32

Let's start. Um so like I'm gonna actually say, and this is I I have to say this as like kind of a a big fan of raising canes. It it's it's gotten a lot of hype recently. In fact, uh down even in like Brazil, for example, it's become kind of like like a hoity-toity thing that if you're a Brazil, especially a teen, like if a teen, if a Brazilian teen is doing a vacation in in the US, then and they can come over here and get some raising canes and like take pictures and post it on their social media, serious clout you're getting for that. It's like it's grown quite hyped in in other places of the world as well. Um, but nonetheless, like I feel like it is just some, you know, it's it's fried stuff still, it's not like the healthiest thing you can put in your body. But I, you know, they're someone, they're they're a group that's really kind of put a concentration on like fresh quality ingredients made from real stuff. And you know, and I think that that comes across in the end product. I'm a big fan, and I'm gonna say I I don't think because of all the hype, I could I couldn't say underrated because they're pretty hype. So I gotta give them a perfectly rated. I definitely don't think they're overrated. I think they've earned the hype that they've that they've gotten. There's my opinion.

SPEAKER_04 24:39

It is pretty good, like chicken tenders. Like there are there are those like chicken tenders where like there's a lot of places that do chicken tenders and they're like kind of tough. What whatever that is, like the pre the frozen stuff that they just fried. Um raising canes does pretty good. Do you guys remember Zaxby's? You ever been to Zaxby's? That's still around. I never ate there. Zaxby's I feel like there's a bunch in Florida, or there at least there were a bunch in Florida, but like Zaxby's is another like fried chicken place. I would put Zaxby's above Raising Canes, but like Raising Canes is like uh popping off somehow. Like they've been they've been moving and grooving. I I would probably also give them a properly rated it's good, but it's like yeah, I don't know if it deserves all the clout it's getting right now. Overrated. I switched.

SPEAKER_03 25:27

Overrated.

SPEAKER_04 25:28

Overrated.

SPEAKER_01 25:30

I like raisin canes. I like I I've always uh appreciated any kind of uh where I feel like it it was handbreaded and and you know tastes like something like you were saying, like real chicken. It's as big enough pieces you can bite into it until it's not some chicken meat that's all been glued together.

SPEAKER_02 25:50

Right.

SPEAKER_01 25:51

Um but I wouldn't say it's so good that I'm just I can't believe how good it is. And so I'm gonna say it's properly rated as well.

SPEAKER_02 26:00

Wow. Properly rated. We have a consensus on that one then. Okay, I've got the final one I've got to do uh because I I've where everybody's come from out of us, like I mean, the for the listeners out there and uh you know, we've got Johnny, who just recently moved over to Florida after being located in California for a good amount of time and uh you know originally from over here in Texas. Uh In N Out Burger, what's uh what's the what's the opinion on that one? You know, I know whenever they first are uh started coming into Texas as the market, there seemed to be sort of like this rivalry between In N Out Burger and Whataburger, uh, although I don't think those are a fair comparison. I feel like those are two very different applications of a burger. Yeah. But not not asking about the comparison, just as far as one uh the you know, In N Out burger, what what's the rating on on that one to you guys?

SPEAKER_01 26:49

All right. Here, I'll if it's all right, I'll go first. Please go on. So In N Out living in Texas, I'd heard about it for a long time. Finally, they brought one to Austin and I liked it. And then moving to California, driving it late at night, often that would be the only thing open. And the lines would be so long for every one of them, and I would still get in that line. And so I'm gonna say it's underrated because I think underrated. I think that they do only a few things, but they do them really well. Um, and it's pretty cheap and they're quick. And uh I I love In N Out. I'm a big fan.

SPEAKER_04 27:32

Dude. Maybe the only maybe the only person in 2026 saying under underrated about In and Out. So I I that I've previously mentioned this on this podcast, but I lived in LA in 20, oh, not even 20, 2005 in the early aughts. Um and I moved there from Birmingham, Alabama, so a big culture change. But I remember getting out there and everybody being like, In and out burger. Oh, are you from Alabama? Have you had In N Out Burger? Yeah, you gotta try In and Out Burger. Like everybody was like, nobody said it, nobody was talking about like the Hollywood bowl or the beach. They were just like, oh, you moved to LA In N Out Burger, you gotta try it. So I went and tried it. And it was, there was like a even in 2005, there was like a long line at the In N Out Burger, and it was okay, like it was a pretty good burger, but there was a Carl Jr. across the street with no line. I was like, have you guys been to Carl Jr.? Because it's way fucking better. It's just in my opinion, like it's bet it's better at almost everything. Johnny's shaking his head.

SPEAKER_02 28:38

I I might have agreed with you in the early aughts. I think Carl Jr. is maybe one of the most downhill gone fast food chains in existence. Well, but but in 2005, uh Carl, like Carl's Jr., they had the Carl Jr.

SPEAKER_04 28:49

was the shit in two. They had like the chili bacon burger, they had like fried green chilies on the holy shit.

SPEAKER_02 28:55

Like they had a million dollar burger that they'd sell you for like six bucks. Yeah, crazy.

SPEAKER_04 29:01

Crazy.

SPEAKER_02 29:02

What a value.

SPEAKER_04 29:02

Didn't they have a finance person over there? Anyway, it was but I just thought I just thought that it was like I guess the point that I'm making is that there are a bunch there were a bunch of things around it are like, hey, have you guys ever had Jack in the Box? Because like I'd pick Jack in the Box over in and out burger. But yeah, overrated, way overrated.

SPEAKER_02 29:20

Uh so I I'm you know, I'd have to consider myself a little bit of a convert, I guess. Because whenever they first came to Austin, and that was the first time that I'd had it. Uh, and you know, the same thing that you guys are saying, like everybody's, oh, you gotta try it. Okay, fine. So we went and tried it. And I I will say, for anybody that's not from Austin, there is a kind of a local chain around here called P. Terry's. I was gonna say P. Terry's. Yeah. Almost an identical menu uh to In N Out Burger and a very similar style of the way they're doing it. Not exactly the same. I mean, I think 10 out of 10 people could tell which one they're eating if you gave them each blindly. But um, so whenever I first had In N Out, I was kind of like, okay, but it's not as good as P. Terry's, and it's just why wouldn't I just give my money to the local company instead of this big, you know, conglomerate, basically. Um, but now that they've been here a while and there's been more situations where I've kind of had a need to stop by there, I've definitely come around. I think that if at first I didn't necessarily appreciate some of the finer points of of the In N Out burger that that really kind of give it its its thing. Like just even the way that they sort of like toast their buns is is just really nice. I also don't know that I appreciated the fries at In N Out the first time that I had it, but now I do. Whatever kind of I mean, because that they're you know, they're using russet potatoes, but they're obviously wherever they're sourcing that from, they've got a very kind of identifiable texture to them that you don't have so like I've kind of I've come around for I can't in any earnestness call them underrated because my god, do they get a lot of hype? But I don't necessarily, whereas I would have felt like they were overrated when I first had it, I think I get it now. And uh, you know, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say perfectly rated. Like I'm not, you know, I I get why people get all hyped on it. Um, it's not my go-to spot, but it is something that sometimes, even if I had other options, I might just be like, you know what, I feel like I'm I'm gonna have an in and out burger today. So um, yeah, I'm gonna go with perfectly rated on there. And uh there we go.

SPEAKER_04 31:20

That's gonna conclude my uh What do you guys think about when you go to a fast food place? Like how how much is it important to you that it's like craft made or made to order? Because I feel like all of that stuff is like the opposite of fast food.

SPEAKER_02 31:34

Yeah, um I can't stand whenever I have to sit there for the So Whataburger to me at late night has always been like the biggest offender of this. There's been times you go in, you're going through a drive-thru, you expect it to be, quote, fast food, and you're the only person in line, and then you end up waiting 10 minutes or more to get your burger, and it's like, well, we don't make it till you order. Well, that's great. Yeah, but you probably knew somebody was gonna come through. Maybe have a patty at least at the ready and then make the rest of it when I get there. I don't know. So uh I'd rather there needs to be some sort of a happy medium. I also don't want something that's been sitting under a heat lamp for three hours, but like, come on, like meet me in the middle here.

SPEAKER_04 32:10

Meet me in the middle. Yeah, you want I mean you want it to be fast. That's the whole it's all it's fast food. That's the name of it. That's the name of the thing. That's what you're doing. You're like, I'm trading away so many things.

SPEAKER_02 32:20

Yeah, you're not really as I pointed out from the beginning. Yeah, you're not really selling me value anymore. It's like it's the fast is what is what the your selling proposition is. That the it's not cheap anymore. It should just at least be fast.

SPEAKER_04 32:32

Yeah, it should be fast food. They're like, no, it's gonna be fresh and we're gonna charge you a lot of money for it. I'm like, that's a different, isn't that a different business model?

SPEAKER_02 32:40

That's a different thing.

SPEAKER_04 32:41

You want me to sit here and wait for half an hour for it and pay$20 for it? Like, that's kind of a different business model.

SPEAKER_01 32:47

Every time I go through fast food, I feel like I'm at a little I'm having a little rock bottom moment anyway. Oh, same. So I want like something that makes me feel worse. And so just give it to me quick and let's let's let's just keep going.

SPEAKER_04 33:03

Give it to me quick, Daddy.

SPEAKER_01 33:06

It is that kind of podcast.

SPEAKER_04 33:08

Yeah. Have you ever like have you ever been in the fast food line at like 2 30 in the morning and tried to like peek into the other cars and be like, hey, I wonder what's going on with them.

SPEAKER_02 33:20

Oh sure. Uh I've also been in the fast food lines at like post-bar hours, and then you'll see you know the the slow creep as cars go, but then you'll notice a gap starting to occur, and you're like, Wait, this person's not pulling up, and you see someone else walk over there and knock on the window, like this motherfucker fell asleep. Wake up. Wake up.

SPEAKER_01 33:40

Yeah, scary. I'm scary shit. I've never been that guy.

SPEAKER_02 33:45

I've never been that guy, but I've on multiple occasions. I mean, I guess because you know, I I work in a bar, and so it's it's not uncommon, especially if I'm working out of town, that I'll need to go make a fast food stop at you know at three in the morning. And that's usually when you see those types of things. So like it's been at least two or three times that I've seen that exact situation occur where just a car isn't moving and someone has to go there.

SPEAKER_04 34:07

Dude, I I I mean, I also worked in, you know, worked in bars for such a long time, and at some point I had to stop doing the late night fast food, not because not for health reasons, just because I couldn't deal with the crowd. I couldn't go sober to Whataburger at 3 a.m. and deal with the people who were there at 3 a.m. at Whataburger.

SPEAKER_02 34:29

Because they're not, they're not sober.

SPEAKER_04 34:30

They're not, none of them are. It's just like a you talk about like food not being fast, like, oh man, these these people, these people who are at Whataburger at 3 in the morning, lovely people.

SPEAKER_01 34:41

Even the people that work there have to get drunk.

SPEAKER_04 34:43

Yeah. It's required. I think it's in the handbook.

SPEAKER_01 34:48

Yeah, that's why it takes so long.

SPEAKER_04 34:50

Anyway, oh, speaking of the handbook, holy crap, guys, we have to take a break. We gotta go, we gotta, we gotta run to Whataburger real quick. Or in and out. I'm gonna run to In N Out super quick. Uh I'll be right back and we'll do some other segments.

SPEAKER_03 38:56

Oh, this coffee's good.

SPEAKER_04 38:59

It's a normal way to drink it. And welcome back. We're back. Oh, we're all drinking coffee or chocolate milk or something. Will you drink it, Johnny? Is it chocolate milk?

SPEAKER_01 39:10

No, it's coffee. Lots of cream. I love that cream. Lots of cream.

SPEAKER_04 39:15

It's coffee milk. It's coffee milk. There's no cream in this coffee, girl. Oh man. Uh yeah. Do you guys think that they'd ever put an espresso machine at McDonald's?

SPEAKER_01 39:29

Uh they have one. Yeah, they have espresso.

SPEAKER_02 39:31

What? They have for a long time. You fucking kidding me?

SPEAKER_04 39:34

I haven't been to McDonald's in a long time.

SPEAKER_02 39:36

No, and in fact, that's one of that's another one of the things I won't shit on about McDonald's is their whole like coffee segment, the McCafe. It's they it's they are you shitting me?

SPEAKER_04 39:45

I was I was that can't that was right out of the left field.

SPEAKER_01 39:49

Yeah, no, Brent and I kind of we're like, well, uh wait, uh George, like we don't always know your jokes.

SPEAKER_04 39:58

Yeah, yeah, and me, me, me neither.

SPEAKER_01 40:00

No, it's it's pretty good. They they have lattes and all that stuff. It's funny for Brent for somebody who hates McDonald's, she sure to keep coming up with good things about it.

SPEAKER_02 40:11

I got yeah, I gave you two two things at McDonald's.

SPEAKER_04 40:14

I'm saying two major aspects of their venue.

SPEAKER_02 40:23

Yeah, that's the time to go.

SPEAKER_04 40:24

Like, I mean, I think Guys, this show changes my mind a lot. It changes my mind a lot. Like, I'm probably gonna I'm probably gonna listen to this recording uh on the way to a McDonald's.

SPEAKER_01 40:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 40:38

Okay, well, hey, Brent, that was a great contribution, and that I'm gonna say was in uh in loving memory of uh of Justin Schaefer's. Justin, we love you, man.

SPEAKER_02 40:49

Oh my god, is he okay?

SPEAKER_04 40:51

Yeah, yeah. I think so, yeah. Thoughts in prayer. Just in memory of him being around.

SPEAKER_02 40:55

Oh, wait, he's not around anymore? He's not on I just want to make sure Justin's okay. I really care about it.

SPEAKER_04 41:02

Justin's okay. Justin, write us a letter. Let us know you're okay. Send us a smoke signal or something. We miss you. Send us an email.

SPEAKER_02 41:08

Do one of those things on Facebook where you mark yourself safe, Justin, please.

SPEAKER_04 41:13

I forgot to check, uh I forgot to check our email. Justin marked himself safe from veto podcast. God damn it. Okay, well, it's gonna be me or Johnny now. Uh I'll be one to three. Johnny, you're four two six.

SPEAKER_01 41:29

All right. That's a four. All right, that's me. So it's uh March, and uh I always look forward to March. I'm a sports guy, so we got March Madness. And so uh I thought that was in April. Well, yeah, it's just a missed. How long is a foot long? How big is a foot long? So I decided what I think that we should do a tournament of the most uh most so for conspiracy theories, the most uh likely to have been true for conspiracy theories.

SPEAKER_04 42:06

We're doing a bracket, a conspiracy theory bracket.

SPEAKER_01 42:08

Yeah. So I've got 64 of the top conspiracy theories. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Wow. So so I I'm hoping we can get we'll we'll do 16 of them and we'll we'll find the one that is gonna be what we will decide which of these conspiracy.

SPEAKER_04 42:27

So we're gonna pit we're gonna pit them up against two two at a time. Two at a two. We're gonna put them against okay. And so Did you can did you make an actual bracket? Can I see it?

SPEAKER_01 42:35

Um yeah. Can you see that? Oh well. It's kind it's not like uh it doesn't there's a printed out bracket, you guys.

SPEAKER_04 42:44

He printed out a bracket. Okay, Mr.

SPEAKER_01 42:46

King prepared. Well that nothing finally prepared right. We'll just leave things unsaid. All right, so we'll let's let's start through. We're gonna go through them all. I some of these I had never heard of before, and so I I don't know how how uh versed you are on all of your conspi conspiracy theories. But uh so we'll go through, you know, most of them are are will be familiar. So we'll so starting at number one, we've got Epstein didn't kill himself. The theory that claims that Jeffrey Epstein did not kill himself, even though now I'm seeing even there's some more stuff where people are saying he's not even dead. Yeah, he's he's still alive somewhere.

SPEAKER_04 43:30

So you know I'm Oh wow, I didn't see that turn. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:35

So I think we all know about that one enough. Uh for number two, we've got the JFK assassination cover-up. So there was more than one shooter. Uh then we've got the COVID lab origin cover-up. Oh, sure. That it was created in a lab. We've got uh the big pharma, that they are suppressing cures to cancer so they can keep making money and stuff. Then we've got that the 2020 election was rigged, that the claim that there was widespread fraud and manipulation. So that you know that uh we've got coming in at number six, we've got 9-11 was an inside job, a theory that the US government orchestrated with uh September 11 attacks to justify war. Now we're getting into uh we got Area 51 is hiding aliens.

SPEAKER_04 44:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 44:41

We've got number eight, Roswell, was a UFO crash site, and that that was real. Uh we've got at number nine, the moon landing was faked. This one was new. I hadn't heard this one. Uh number 10, we've got Denver Airport, uh was built to uh and it's got a secret bunker deep below.

SPEAKER_04 45:07

Yeah, the bunker at the Denver Airport. Yeah, never heard of it.

SPEAKER_01 45:09

I love that one before.

SPEAKER_02 45:10

I've never heard this one, and I go to Denver Airport a lot, so that's uh Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 45:16

This this one came up sometime when I was like traveling for work and I had to go through Denver and somebody was like, Oh, you know about the bunker, right? And I was like, what the fuck are you talking about?

SPEAKER_02 45:26

So give give me the bait just like just in a sentence or two, like what's what's the deal there? Because I really I truly don't know about this.

SPEAKER_01 45:32

Yeah, George, you say because I want to hear it from somebody talk to somebody about it.

SPEAKER_04 45:35

Dude, I can't remember. It was it was some it was something like there's a secret government bunker that's I don't I don't know. I'm gonna have to I mean for what purpose?

SPEAKER_01 45:45

Like what why don't they uh so basically like the nuclear war?

SPEAKER_04 45:48

Billionaires and elites are yeah. Yeah, for like nuclear war that like if you're a billionaire, there's a secret bunker for you under the Denver airport.

SPEAKER_02 45:56

Like like a real life vault tech is what they're saying.

SPEAKER_04 45:58

Yeah, like a real like real life vault tech. Huh.

SPEAKER_02 46:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 46:01

Yeah. All right. So that was new to me. Um then we've got the Illuminati that is Puppet Masters controlling the world, going back to elites, the secret group of elites.

SPEAKER_02 46:16

So those are the guys that after they did everything controlling, then they had like a separate group that was in charge of leaving like breadcrumb hints. Uh they had to like they had to put you know little codes everywhere for people to find uh somebody was in charge of that.

SPEAKER_01 46:31

That's great. Then we've got chemtrails, that uh the airplane condensation is actually the government trying to control the population or control the weather.

SPEAKER_04 46:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 46:45

Then we've got uh that Paul McCartney died in 1966, and that he was replaced by a look-alike. By an equally talented look-alike. Yeah, yes, right. And that uh that they have hidden clues planted in Beatles albums. Uh then we've got flat earth, that the earth is flat.

SPEAKER_04 47:09

And then uh I mean I can't see no curve when I look out my window. I ain't see no curve, man.

SPEAKER_01 47:16

Yeah. Then we've got uh reptilian shapeshifters and power.

SPEAKER_02 47:22

I is real, obviously. Yeah, yeah. I know.

SPEAKER_01 47:26

I I I thought about not even including this one. It's it's kind of too obvious. And then uh another one that I had never heard of this one either, even as a joke, but uh that birds are not real that in the 50s. I love this theory.

SPEAKER_02 47:44

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:44

And so y'all are familiar with that. Familiar with that.

SPEAKER_02 47:47

Yeah. Although I don't know that there's anybody that takes that one like like the other ones you've mentioned, there are people that like absolutely with all their heart.

SPEAKER_04 47:56

Birds aren't real. Birds aren't real. I was like watching some YouTube videos like recently. There's people who are either take it really seriously or are phenomenal actors.

SPEAKER_02 48:05

I think even the people that take it really seriously are the same thing as like Corey Feldman fans, where like the whole game is you pretend and you don't let on that there's any sort of fakeness to it, even though you, you know, it's all everyone it's all with a nudge and a wink towards each other if you're an insider of it, you know. I think.

SPEAKER_04 48:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 48:23

I like the idea of the thing.

SPEAKER_04 48:26

Yeah. Okay, so let's bracket these out. Do you have them pitted up against each other two at a time?

SPEAKER_01 48:32

Yeah, so let's go.

SPEAKER_02 48:33

The first well before we jump in, I I think we need to we need to clarify what is the criteria here for what cr what makes a winner. Is it the thing? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:42

So we're gonna we're gonna so there's three of us, so we'll each vote, and so uh majority will be the winner.

SPEAKER_02 48:49

But are we voting on which one we think is like what the most likely to be true, the most ridiculous, the one that we think has the like a what's the yeah, sorry, I wasn't clear.

SPEAKER_01 48:57

So we're we're going by which one we think is uh is actually true.

SPEAKER_04 49:03

Or the truest. Or yeah, the truest.

SPEAKER_01 49:05

Maybe maybe it's based on the right. Right, so even if we'll just have and we'll give it a magnitude at the end of how how true we actually think this is.

SPEAKER_04 49:13

But but but what you're getting at here is that because we're all so smart and intuitive, we're gonna get a true we're gonna get the truest conspiracy at the end of this game. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 49:24

Yeah. So that's to say that maybe two of them are pitted against each other, then maybe both of them are true, or maybe both of them are false. But regardless, yeah, we're looking for the truest. The truest.

SPEAKER_01 49:34

Yes. Truest, yeah. So if I'm picking if it's bullshit, yeah. If I'm pitting two ridiculous ones, we're gonna pick the ones that we think might be.

SPEAKER_04 49:43

Yeah, we're talking we're talking uh we're talking like sixteen and seventeen seed, right?

SPEAKER_01 49:49

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're gonna and and you know, this is all very scientific. This is gonna be published in a major scientific journal.

SPEAKER_02 49:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:58

All right, so we're gonna put for our first uh our first uh pairing, we're gonna put Epstein didn't kill himself versus reptilian shapeshifters. Which one do you think is gonna be most likely to be true? Is the world controlled by reptilian shapeshifters?

SPEAKER_02 50:22

I I feel like in in in a real sports bracket, this would be like Austin Community College basketball team going against like UCLA or something. You know, I mean so like I feel like between these two, one of them is very obvious, and the other is just the height of ridiculousness. So I mean, without any irony going on, obviously the Epstein one is gonna Epstein Yeah, you know.

SPEAKER_04 50:52

We were all thinking Epstein.

SPEAKER_02 50:54

Yeah. Yeah. Between that bracket, I think we got yeah, we gotta give Epstein.

SPEAKER_04 51:00

Epstein got murdered. Epstein got murdered is the truest.

SPEAKER_02 51:03

Yeah, well, or he may or maybe he didn't. Maybe he is still alive out there, but we know one thing. Motherfucker didn't kill himself.

SPEAKER_01 51:08

Yes, he didn't kill himself. Yes, he did not kill himself. Well, you know.

SPEAKER_04 51:13

And I know that, and I know that from being a detective.

SPEAKER_01 51:16

Yeah, you do have the detective mustache.

SPEAKER_02 51:19

Well, I can't say definitively uh as on this game yet that he definitely didn't kill himself, but I know that he's less likely to have killed himself than that lizard people are running the government.

SPEAKER_04 51:29

So dude, that hey Brent, that was a difficult sentence you just put together and you constructed it well. I would have fucked it up.

SPEAKER_02 51:36

Thank you. I practiced it a lot before we got in here.

SPEAKER_04 51:41

What do you think? What do you think, Johnny? Are you uh are you going with the crowd on this one or do you like lizard people?

SPEAKER_01 51:46

I've got to go with the crowd on this one. I okay uh the idea of lizard people. I I I would love to believe in some crazy stuff, but that that's that one's tough. I can't believe that.

SPEAKER_04 51:58

I think you did this on purpose to knock lizard people right out of the maybe.

SPEAKER_02 52:02

I'm just saying, if there were lizard people, then for sure it would have shown up in the Charlie Sheen documentary of him fucking a few of them. Like that would have that would have been in the Charlie Sheen documentary.

SPEAKER_04 52:11

If there's lizard people, Charlie Sheen has fucked several of them. At least for sure. Or Charlie Sheen is anyway. I'm not trying to bring it back.

SPEAKER_03 52:22

All right.

SPEAKER_01 52:23

Epstein wins the first round. First round. Yeah. Alright. So for the the next round, we're gonna go uh with the aliens. So we've got Area 51 is hiding aliens uh versus the Roswell UFO crash.

SPEAKER_04 52:40

Also true.

SPEAKER_03 52:42

God, both true.

SPEAKER_01 52:43

Yeah, this this one's tough.

SPEAKER_03 52:45

Have y'all been to Roswell? No, I haven't.

SPEAKER_01 52:49

No, I haven't. I've been to Roswell, so I guess you're better than us. No, no, no. Uh I would say that is an argument towards the opposite. That was that wasn't a brag, that was a confession. And so uh um I'll I'll I'll go last because I have thoughts about oh I think era 51.

SPEAKER_04 53:13

So Aaron's been listening to this podcast called The Y Files. Have you guys heard of that? No, I haven't. It's basically like this guy follows all the stuff. It it's the X Files as a podcast, and this guy follows all the like he's like he's like reading all the like declassified government documents, and like you guys remember this whole thing like a couple of years ago where the government was basically like, yeah, aliens landed, and we were all like, okay, and then we were over it.

SPEAKER_02 53:42

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nobody really talked about it much after that.

SPEAKER_04 53:44

Yeah, they yeah, they were like government officials who were like, Yeah, we studied aliens, and then everybody was like, Okay, well, what next?

SPEAKER_03 53:51

Well, anyway. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 53:54

I think these are both true, but I'm gonna go Area 51 is hiding aliens as the as the truth.

SPEAKER_02 53:58

Yeah, so you know what I'm gonna agree with George, but uh here's my logic behind it in particular. Because like, let's assume that either both of them are true or both of them are false. It doesn't really matter because the thing is if the Roswell deal happened, then there it I'd say it's unlikely that that would happen and they wouldn't retain some sort of information in whatever secret area they have. And if they have a secret area, let's call it Area 51. Why not? Who gives a shit what name we really put that under? But like I think that if Roswell happened, then that just feeds into the Area 51 thing because of course they're gonna retain some information from it. So I think even if both of those things happened, it still means that the Area 51 thing is more true. So I'm gonna agree with George on that, based on that logic alone.

SPEAKER_01 54:43

All right, and I I I also agree with that, and that's part of my logic, is that if one of those is true, if the Roswell is true, Area 51 would also probably be true. Yeah, but having been to Roswell, um, it was so corny and tricky that I I just I couldn't, I I could never take it seriously. And so um so I've got to go Area 51 no matter what. That feels it feels the it feels like a better conspiracy too. I think it's got more sure more layers, I appreciate.

SPEAKER_03 55:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:20

So we all agree that the Area 51 is hiding away. Area 51 wins.

SPEAKER_04 55:25

You know what? Because of the structure of a lot of our games on here, I find myself wanting, like waiting for Johnny King to tell us who who who is right and who won.

SPEAKER_03 55:34

Oh, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 55:36

There's a right answer. Oh, Area 51, it's Area 51.

SPEAKER_03 55:40

You got it.

SPEAKER_01 55:41

That's true. All right, so for our next pairing, we've got that uh COVID was created in a lab and there was a cover-up versus chemtrails as the government controlling the population or or uh controlling the weather.

SPEAKER_02 56:01

Um man. So I'll you know the I think I'm gonna between the two have to pick up the uh I'm gonna I'm gonna put my vote towards the the COVID lab uh breakout thing. Um, you know, because like there I'd say we we haven't definitively there's been there was a lot of like, you know, this is the cause or that is the cause. Um but like the chemtrails thing, I'd that one's always been more ridiculous to me just because it's like, well, the government lives under the same sky that we do. All of their so it's like if they're doing something that's adversely affecting the world.

SPEAKER_03 56:37

Or or do they?

SPEAKER_02 56:39

Or do they so I but I'm gonna give it the vote for that because like it it seems silly to me that people that live in this same world are gonna do something that's gonna screw the world that they also live in. Like if they could only apply it to the masses, that'd be one thing. But um, yeah, I'm gonna pick the the COVID lab as my winner of this conspiracy duel.

SPEAKER_04 56:59

I feel like I I feel like I read some stuff where I don't know. I like it all gets jumbled in my brain, but I feel like I read some stuff where like the FBI was like, yeah, it might have been actually a lab leak. I don't know if they ever I'm gonna go covet lab too, just because I feel like I feel like chemtrails and flat earth are in the same uh camp. This is a spoiler alert, I'm voting against Flat Earth.

SPEAKER_01 57:25

I I'm gonna say that um I'm I'm going with COVID lab also. Part of my reason is uh actually my idea for this whole thing was I on an Uber ride, I probably heard about five of these from my Uber driver. And man, he went on chemtrails and how Bill Gates is it killed millions of people.

SPEAKER_02 57:51

I'd be like, buddy, I'm just trying to get to the destination I put in.

SPEAKER_01 57:54

Oh man, I've never checked my watch more times.

SPEAKER_04 57:58

This is so awkward because he's driving me to the airport right now.

SPEAKER_01 58:01

Oh man. Yeah, yeah. So it was uh that guy. I I anything he said, I would take that and say, no, that is not true. And so chemtrails was one of his big things. I am definitely going for the COVID lab cover up.

SPEAKER_02 58:20

All right, Johnny's got a whole cheat sheet of the things that this guy said that are automatically knocked out of the running just because he was behind it. Yes, and so all right, so uh COVID lab wins.

SPEAKER_01 58:31

We got COVID lab. Alright, so for so far, all the all the uh the favorites have won. All right, so next we've got that uh big pharma is suppressing cures to like cancer and you know diseases so they can uh keep making that sweet form of money and then uh versus the alarm the Illuminati controls the world.

SPEAKER_04 59:00

Oh god, yeah, pharma. That's that's not a conspiracy, that's just business. And it sucks.

SPEAKER_02 59:06

But yeah, I mean that's that's definitely gonna be my vote too. Like I and and I think that like the Illuminati as like some you know single singular organization with like a you know really detailed hierarchy of leadership in it. Uh maybe it's not quite like that, but like do I think there's insider groups of people with great wealth and power that probably pull out more strings than we realize? Sure. But I think between the two of them, yeah, I'm probably gonna have to align with George on on this one as well.

SPEAKER_01 59:38

So I'm gonna go with Illuminati for this one. Oh shit, wow. Which doesn't matter, but I will tell you why. I I think that the idea that the big pharmacy companies are actually preventing cures from being introduced to if there's let's say there's a magic pill for cancer. You get cancer, you take one pill, and it goes away. Yeah, I think if that came out, I don't think they would be able to suppress it just to keep giving their money, getting their money through treatment or whatever they do. So, but no, no, Johnny, you won me over.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:20

Yeah, I I changed my vote. Are you changing? I'm going Illuminati. I change I was sold by Johnny's Johnny's case.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:26

Illuminati Cinderella story here. Yeah. We got Illuminati moving on to the second round.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:31

All right. Yeah. Uh I was I was won over. All right. So we got one. All right.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:38

So for our next Wait, what do you mean we got one? What do you mean we don't worry about it.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:43

Don't worry about it. He's part of the Illuminati. All right, so all right, next we've got the JFK assassination cover-up versus flat earth.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:56

Okay, yeah, I'm not flat earth. Uh JFK. We're going JFK. JFK.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:01

Yeah, no, the JFK thing, I mean, that's I I tend to kind of believe that. So I'm gonna say I'm gonna say JFK, no doubt on that one. I mean, plus, if you're a flat earther uh listening to the show, I would just like to say uh you're stupid.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:18

Well, be careful, man. Be careful. This is our whole demo. This is our whole demo.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:22

Don't don't upset that guy.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:24

Yeah, come on, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:27

All right, so we all agree on that one for our next show.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:31

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:31

All right, so moving on, we've got the uh that the 9-11 was an inside job or the moon landing was faked.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:40

Oh, well, I know where Justin would fall on this one. I don't where would Justin fall on this one? Hey, he's he's a big moon landing was faked guy. He really talked about it.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:50

I think you did talk about it because that was also part of my my thoughts on this coming up with it when when he said he made a little comment about it, and I wasn't sure it where it was coming from, how much he was joking.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:03

And I thought, oh, that's really I was like, I was like, I think I was quickly like, let's pivot away from conspiracy theories. And then Johnny King was like, no, we're gonna sink our teeth in. We're bringing it in.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:14

Come on, yeah. So what the wait moon landing versus what? I already forgot the other one. Uh that the that 9-11 was an inside. Oh, it's an inside job.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:23

Yeah, no, well, so that one, okay. This is one of those cases that I talked, you know, whenever we mentioned earlier. Like, I don't necessarily believe in either of these things at all. But I think we have to pick the truist. So uh, in my opinion, I think I'm gonna go with the moon landing thing too. I think the 9-11 inside job, like, sure, I've seen every argument for that case. You know, I I I've checked into it, but to me, it just it just does not win me over. I I don't think that there's enough evidence that that makes any sense at all. I cannot get my head behind the inside job angle of it. Like, uh, so yeah, I'll go moon landing if I have to choose, and I do. So moon landing.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:01

Yeah, you do have to choose. We have to get the tr we have to pick the truest one, and this sec segment is sponsored by truest bank. Yeah, then um fake moon landing, then would be my vote. I think that if there was a case to be made, I do think that we went to the moon. My my case for my only case for like the fake moon landing would be that I just think that it would be so hard in the 60s for them to get the tech together for the recording to go, you know what I mean? Like, I think that they had one shot, one opportunity to seize everything they ever wanted, right? And that they didn't capture it, you know. They just let it slip. They let it slip away. And so they had to like redo it. I feel like the most the more likely version of that is that they were like, Oh, we got a bad take, but we have to literally go to the moon to get another one. And so they just redid it and figured people will never have better technology 50 years from now and then re-analyze this. Like, yeah, I'll go moon landing fake.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:00

I like that. I I like uh I never thought of it in that way. But I haven't either, that's a good that's a good point.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:07

I like it.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:08

That's that's because that's that's that's giving it hope for for a future bracket for me. But uh so I'm gonna also say moon moon landing was faked.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:18

Alright.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:19

So that's that's the that's the winner of that one.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:21

And just to be really clear, the the it's not just that we're playing a game, these are our hard stances.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:28

Oh, you're you're making Brent feel very uncomfortable. I could tell Brent feels very uncomfortable giving any of these.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:35

I do too, man. I do too. I feel like this I feel like the clips from this episode are gonna get pulled when I'm trying to run for president. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:43

Can you believe the crazy shit that George Milton believes? Listen to this. Oh, I know it. Yeah. Alright. So next we have uh that Paul McCartney is dead, and that he was replaced by a uh replacement by an equally talented lookalike. Yes, yeah. Uh, versus that birds aren't real.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:08

Ooh, this is a tough one. Oh man, you gotta pick one. Tough bracket.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:12

You gotta pick one.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:13

I feel like the truer one would have to be Paul McCartney was real.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:17

Yeah, between the two. I I'd say I'd say that even like, you know, there's there's at least more people that genuinely believe that than there are the bird thing. I'm picking the Paul thing too. It's it's it's absurd, but uh I'm picking that one.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:30

But there's a lot more, like if you replaced all the birds with there'd just be a lot more work to do making that many fake birds.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:39

That is a lot of work, but they have a bird making machine that just does it all. Yeah, obviously they're not they're not handmaking them. Yeah, they gotta keep it man made well. I mean, you could get some handmade ones off of Etsy.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:51

Those are expensive though. They are, they are locally sourced handmade birds, farm artisan birds.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:57

Farm to table.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:59

I'm I'm here to say, guys, uh, as the platform for my uh what will it be? Uh 2038 presidential run. Birds are real. And I'm here to say George Nelson for president, birds are real.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:15

Birds are real. Okay. Alright, so I think that we all agree that the Paul is dead, makes it to the next round.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:23

Alright, so now we've got the 2020 election was rigged versus the Denver Airport secret bunker.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:32

Oh man.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:34

I want to go Vault Tech. Vault, I mean, well, obviously one of those is just provably untrue. The other we don't quite know because we haven't been down there. So yeah, Vault Tech. The basement thing. I'm picking that one.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:47

All right. We're going. We got Well, Brent, you're ostracizing our one guy even more than we ready for the next. So we're that's our first first round brackets. So we have the winner was Epstein didn't kill himself, Area 51 is hiding aliens. Then we've got the lab cover-up for the COVID-19. Then we've got Illuminati controls the world, JFK assassination, moon landing was faked, Apollo's dead, Denver Airport's a bunker.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:32

Alright, let's do it.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:33

Let's bracket them off. So let's do this. We've got Epstein didn't kill himself versus the airport, uh, Denver airport is a secret bunker.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:43

Okay. Which one is more likely? Uh I'm gonna go Epstein. I'm gonna Epstein.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:49

Epstein. Alright. Now we've got the Area 51 is hiding aliens versus Paul is dead.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:00

Ooh.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:01

Yeah, well, I'm gonna go ahead with aliens on that one. And you know, again, the reason why you could convince me that a Paul lookalike could be found in a pinch, but a guy that like knows the tunes and can continue to write in the same style as Paul. I mean, come on, pull the other one. Yeah, we're gonna go aliens on this. Aliens, yeah, same.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:23

All right, aliens. Agreed.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:25

With it's also the one I want to be true.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:27

Right. Yeah, I do want that to be true. Hopefully. So we've got the uh COVID cover-up versus the moon landing was faked. Ooh. Okay. COVID.

unknown 1:08:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:43

I'm going moon landing was faked. George got George got me. But it's it's it's specifically George's description of of how he think it might have gone out.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:54

Yeah. Man. Wow. Um I'm gonna go COVID lab.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:59

Alright. Now, we've got the Illuminati controls the world versus the JFK assassination cover-up.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:12

You vote first, Johnny.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:14

Alright. I'm gonna go with the JFK assassination cover-up.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:23

Yeah. I I'm gonna I'm gonna go with that one too. I just think that management is too hard for the I think that the Illuminati might be real, but I just don't think they control the world. I think that's too hard to do. Yeah. JFK. JFK moves on for me.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:37

JFK?

SPEAKER_02 1:09:38

They probably control like the DMV, you know, and that's why it takes so long. Yeah. But right now the world.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:45

All right. So we've got our final four. Ooh, final four.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:51

So Is this the is this the dance? Is that the final four? Is that the dance? Or is that the dance? I don't know. I don't know. Trying to do March Madness and stuff in my head.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:01

Alright, it's the final four dance. Are you ready? I'm ready. So we've got Area 51 versus COVID-19 lab cover-up. What do we think?

SPEAKER_02 1:10:14

Uh starting a little harder now.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:21

Yeah. We've distilled.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:25

Yeah, I'm gonna go I'm gonna go aliens. I'm gonna put aliens. I'm gonna push I'm gonna push aliens.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:35

I think between the two, I think that the COVID lab cover-up probably rings a little more true for me.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:41

Probably more likely.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:42

Yeah, you might be right. Yeah, you know, I think that it it makes sense. I I gotta go with my heart on this one. Yeah, I'm going with aliens.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:53

Aliens! Aliens had aliens and aliens in around.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:58

And we've got uh Epstein didn't kill himself versus JFK assassination cover-up. Epstein, man. I've gotta say Epstein.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:13

Yeah, I mean I was gonna say I feel like they're both like these are both kind of the same thing. Sure. Right?

SPEAKER_02 1:11:19

Yeah, I think that I think they're both probably true, you know? But uh which one's more true, or in this case, I think more obvious? I gotta go with the Epstein one.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:29

I'm I think that I I think that the only reason that it's more obvious is because of the times. Like we just have access to more information and security. Like they've got the most recent thing is like, oh, they've got the security camera of like somebody going in there. Like, we just don't have all that stuff for JFK, so they gotta make speculative like films about it. I'm gonna say JFK.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:51

It doesn't matter, but yeah, so I I I I can't help it. I gotta go with Epstein. Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:59

That's a real thing. I'd be disappointed. I'd I'd leave the show right now if we picked JFK.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:04

Alright.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:04

And now for our show, you're a pillar, you're a pillar of our community.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:08

And now for the champion conspiracy theory that's probably true. We have Epstein didn't kill himself versus aliens housed at Area 51.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:22

There's no way that there's no way that my babies are making it through. My baby aliens are making it through.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:27

Sorry, aliens. Uh you're not gonna win this one, for my mind anyway. Epstein's gonna be the reigning victor.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:34

Yeah, as far as the truest, the one I want to be true, I mean, God, I don't want to I feel shitty that we've got his name in this podcast so many times.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:44

This episode. Thanks a lot, Johnny King.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:46

Yeah, we're on a watch list now for sure.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:48

We're on a watch list. But it's the more likely thing. I gotta throw aliens out too.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:53

Yeah. I I I've I've got to go with Epstein didn't kill himself.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:57

So we have So if we only take one sound clip out of this whole episode, let it be this. Yeah. Congratulations, Jeffrey Epstein.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:04

You are the winner. You're the winner. God damn it. He's a he's our listener. I really guys, thanks for listening to our podcast. That's the this has been our final episode.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:19

Yeah, this has been our final episode. We're so glad that you're not going to be able to do it.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:22

Hey, I would like to say for the record, I am not suicidal. If anything happens to me. Yeah. It was not me. I did not kill myself.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:31

Yeah, I'm loving life right now.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:33

If you've got if you've got questions or comments for us, or you want to weigh in on any of this stuff, please hit us up at veto the podcast at gmail.com. Uh we love you guys. We have had a great time today. We're all caffeinated up. We're gonna go to McDonald's and get some espresso after this. Hey Johnny, thanks for joining us, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:58

Thanks for having me, y'all. Uh, you want to come back one more time? Yeah, I would love to.

unknown 1:14:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:03

Well then hey, I'm gonna go ahead and call it now just to give it the little uh, you know, expectations of next time. Oh I definitely am going to prepare my two lies and a gig uh for you two since we've got the full, you know, uh music crew going on uh in the misconfiguration.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:18

And I'm gonna use both of my veto cards for this episode in advance. Remember we got those?

SPEAKER_02 1:14:26

You didn't hand them out in the beginning, so I forgot about it.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:29

No, I'm sorry, that's my bad. It's been our most unhinged episode yet. Oh man. I'm gonna use both of my veto cards to veto saying the word Epstein et al in our text ever again. We have to clear the we have to clear the algorithm. Let's redact. Redact, redact. Uh cool.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:46

Let's just use all of our veto cards to even veto the previous mentions of it in this episode, and that way we won't be on a watch list.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:53

Yeah, so we're great.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:54

That means I can't release this episode.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:56

No, you still release it. It's just the the times that we set it are getting retroactively vetoed.

unknown 1:15:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:03

It's gonna make my editing job very difficult.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:05

No, no, no. You still leave them in the thing. They're just vetoed. They're you know, they're still anyway.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:09

It don't just happen in people, it all happens in people's brains.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:12

In their brains, so I won't do it in post. They'll do it in post.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:16

They'll do it in their own, yeah, like it's post post. Post.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:19

Yeah. Okay, guys, you heard it here. Uh, thanks for listening this week. Go back and do all the edits that you want in post. Just close your eyes and visualize. We will see you next time. Have a great day. Bye-bye.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:51

You got a friend in me. If I'm the kind of friend you need, then it's true. I hope I have a friend in you. I'm feeling okay. Oh, alright. When your face is clearly in my sight, I hope it's true. I hope I have a friend in you. Or we can watch the cannon hands and moon up a flood. Or we can skip and do a dance to prove our total lift with time to let you got a friend in me. At least that's what you should do. And if it's true, I hope I have a friend in you. I hope I have a friend in you. I hope I have a friend in you.