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How to live more sustainably
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- You know that little voice that tells you to turn around and pick up the trash you just walked past? This episode we listen to it. We get into climate change, what sustainability actually looks like in everyday life, and why doing small things still matters even when the world feels very big.
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Hello. Welcome to this week's episode.
SPEAKER_00Hello.
SPEAKER_01Um, so today we are having a home economics class.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_01And we are talking about living sustainably.
SPEAKER_00We thought it would be a good topic because lately in Europe you couldn't really see the impacts of climate change. We've had a lot of wildfires and heat waves, and I think climate change has been a bit further away from us in the past few years or it's felt that way because we weren't we haven't experienced as many wildfires, but this year I for me at least it's the first time where I'm really like, oh, this is this is coming our way. Yeah. We give some interesting tips on how to live more sustainably. Um, and you'll also find out whether we'd rather live without electricity or running water. Very important. Mental side note. Yeah. And of course, some funny stories. Get your notebooks ready. And enjoy.
SPEAKER_02What's up, Amy students?
SPEAKER_01On the microphone, you've got Amy and Lydia. Woo woo!
SPEAKER_00We're back with another Thursday episode as always.
SPEAKER_01We're back with this will be on the test. Will this be on the test? Some of it might.
SPEAKER_02I mean, like this and case.
SPEAKER_00So make sure to grab a notebook in your pen. Because this will be on the test.
SPEAKER_01Bam. What's up? Hello. Hello. What's up?
SPEAKER_00What's up?
SPEAKER_01What's up?
SPEAKER_00So my side. But the the listeners don't know that we just spent the weekend at a bachelorette party. Yes. Which was very fun.
SPEAKER_01It was very fun. I am a little tired. Slightly exhausted. Same. Same. We left Friday. Yeah. And got back yesterday afternoon.
SPEAKER_00Yesterday being Sunday, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't like super party heavy. The Bachelorette. No. Compared to how we usually go out, which is never.
SPEAKER_01And not at all.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. It was um was a little intense, but very, very fun.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, very fun. I think I'm just not used to drinking really that much anymore. And I'm very used to my sleep schedule. And if I drink alcohol, I wake up early and like I just can't. My body's like, nope, revenge. I don't know what it is. Um I wake up early too, at like eight. Oh, I'll wake up at like 6 a.m. Like we went to bed at 3 on Friday, and I woke up at 7 and I was awake, and I was like, no, come on, you have to keep sleeping. And then I was like half asleep until 8 30. And then I just couldn't sleep anymore.
SPEAKER_00Wow. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But only when I drink too much.
SPEAKER_00No, but usually I have that too, but I was able to sleep again until like 11.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, a lot of people like a lot of y'all slept in, but I mean I can lay in bed, but usually it's also just like, okay, just get up and do something now. Because Yeah, yeah.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01That's fair. Um, no, but it was really fun. Our sister is getting married. And yeah. I think it was a success. It was a great success. Great success. Should we get into uh the would you rathers?
SPEAKER_00Yes. Okay. Let's get into it.
SPEAKER_01Lydia.
SPEAKER_00Would you rather never be able to fly? Sorry. Would you rather never be able to fly again or never be able to drive a car again?
SPEAKER_01Um I think I would rather never be able to drive a car again.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I thought you would say that. Um I know flying is not good for the environment. I would love to do it more sustainably. Uh but I really love traveling, and I think you can see a lot with flying and not renting a car or having a car.
SPEAKER_00What about you? It's tough because we travel with the van at the moment. And so I wouldn't be able to do that anymore. And it's really cool to travel with the van. That being said, I would love to go to like South America at some point in my life. And then I couldn't do that because I don't see myself spending days on a boat to go. I was gonna say technically. I just I don't know that that's yeah, I don't know. I don't love being on I mean I've never tried it. I haven't tried it in in a good while. Maybe I would maybe I would like it, but I think where I'm at in my life right now, I would probably choose driving over flying.
SPEAKER_01I honestly think that's a smarter option. Like that is a smarter thing to choose. Yeah, because like you can still see so much with driving and still very that's what I'm thinking. And flying, like you can usually only fly into like major cities.
SPEAKER_00Um and a car is more convenient, but and it's like it's a luxury that we like that I say I would like to travel to South America and I think that will happen. But even if that if I knew that we're out of the realm of possibility, I think I would be very content for the next few years to drive to Scotland every summer and chill there because it's gorgeous. Even for more than the next few years, no?
SPEAKER_01Like you just be content because you're like, okay, that option's no longer there, and like maybe a little sad every once in a while, but you learn to deal with it, and there are so many beautiful places everywhere on earth. That like, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Probably a smarter option, but I'm still gonna take flying. Um would you rather live without electricity or without running water? The podcast would be difficult without electricity.
SPEAKER_00The podcast would be difficult. Could I set up like a solar panel or something? Or not no, I think. No electricity. Um, I think the quality of life, like the quality of life, yeah. Um quality of life increased immensely with running water.
SPEAKER_01And I think we I'm gonna say running potable water.
SPEAKER_00Yes. Yeah, that's a good point. I think sometimes we underestimate how valuable it is. The other day at Dumaney's apartment, they had a pipe break, right? Not just in his apartment, in the city where he lives, like in the little district where he lives. And it's just such a pain in the ass if the water's not working, even just for a few hours. You mean you can't cook, you can't really clean. If you spill something, then like what are you gonna do about that? You can't shower. I I think you have to go with water.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I think so too. I mean, without electricity is annoying, but there's also something kind of fun about that. I mean, I wouldn't be able to work anymore, but you know, I'd like which is also kind of fun. But like I wouldn't be able to work at home. I'm guessing the rest of the world still has electricity, so like I could still go out and do that. But without running water, I mean we once had in Mexico for a few months that our water was contaminated. Oh, I remember that, yeah. Had to go to the gym to shower or to friends to shower, couldn't drink anything, had to always buy water, and like it was super unfortunate that it happened, but a very good reminder of like this is a vital resource that sometimes we take for granted.
SPEAKER_00So I agree.
SPEAKER_01I definitely would live without electricity.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, me too. I mean, especially if there's electricity in other buildings, yeah. Then I think it could be nice that you know, okay, as soon as I get home, it's uh slow living, I guess. Yeah. All right. Should we go into the main part? Yes. Yes. Well, we're so in sync, guys. Guys, you can tell we've been doing this for 40 episodes because it's just flowing. Um, I found a Reddit post, and as you guys know, we're talking about sustainability today. Yes. Um, this person wrote, I personally wash my clothes less, I take shorter showers, I try to consume less. Um I'm underway some diet changes, so what else do you do that's sustainable? Um, this person is 24 and is trying to be more sustainable.
SPEAKER_01And there was a lot of applause. Yes. Sorry.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I think first of all, like they already they wash their clothes less, they take shorter showers. By the way, showering, I we had it in one of the woody rathers that we didn't end up doing now because of time. But if you take a quick shower that's under 10 minutes, you already use 75 to 90 liters of water on average. Okay, correctly. Which is just it's an insane amount. So while taking shorter showers might not sound like a lot, it has a big impact in the grander scope of things. Um, yeah. I think it's a very interesting topic. I mean, obviously that's why we picked it out. But I think like with in Europe, we've had these these forest fires and we've had extreme heat waves. And I think more and more you're starting to feel the repercussions of climate change, which is a little scary for being honest.
SPEAKER_01It is, but I think it's a little scary, and it also, I don't know, maybe I'm too optimistic, but I feel like often it's like, well, we've already fucked it up. Yeah. And like, what's the point anymore? But I kind of I mean, I think like that sometimes, and sometimes I'm like, you know, humans are quite like we endure a lot, and I do feel like we'll figure this out.
unknownYes.
SPEAKER_01But it like it's not gonna be easy necessarily. Yeah. But I like I'm not I don't know, I'm not like we're fucked forever, and like it's only it probably will get worse, and it's going to probably be very shitty. But we still are living on such a high standard compared to hu history that like maybe we'll have to, you know, live a little differently than we are right now, and that's probably a good thing. So yeah, but I'm not I don't know, I'm not like I don't know, like in German you say like doomed. Yeah, like I'm not drawing the devil on the wall. Yeah, yeah. To put in a German uh saying here.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Funny.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, which means like I don't think we're doomed.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Um, I think since honestly, since COVID, I am I've become more um optimistic when it comes to the environment. When I was in high school, we heard so often like how basically everything's doomed, and I really I had a lot of anxiety about it for a for a while. And now during COVID, everybody had to um live differently, and we had to like live more sustainably because we weren't allowed to travel as much. Yeah, and you saw in so many areas how nature just came back quick, like within a year, things happened that scientists didn't think were possible, and that for me was kind of like okay, if we get on top of this, things could change, and things could change relatively quickly too.
SPEAKER_01I think so too. And I think what I was like that also goes into what I was saying, like the human ingenuity is here, it's just we haven't figured it out yet. Yeah, but it's not for me, it's not time to give up. If anything, it's time to like dig deeper.
SPEAKER_00Yep. And I think it's something that everybody has to if we want something to change, then everybody in their personal life has to make an effort too.
SPEAKER_01I think so too. I also I was watching a video the other day, and I haven't fact-checked this, but it was something like you know, we always say like the top 10% are the people who are um creating the most emissions and everything, so it's like, what can I do as an individual? But Erti, if you're living without major debt and like not living paycheck to paycheck, you are in the top 20%. And so you are part of this. Like it's not just the billionaires, it's not just the millionaires, it's anybody who is fortunate enough to not have serious debt and not be reliant on the next paycheck in order to survive. They're talking about like you and me, like us, they're talking about these people. And I feel like a lot of Europeans are very fortunate to be in this boat of like we don't have educational debt and this kind of stuff. So because I always thought it was someone, you know, like it was always the billionaires, the millionaires, the people. Me too.
SPEAKER_00I was like, I mean, what am I gonna I yeah.
SPEAKER_01Taylor Swift and all those people shouldn't be taking their private jets, but like they're not the only ones that the scientists are talking about. And I thought that was really for me, that was really impactful that I was part of this equation that I always thought I wasn't.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So sorry. You were gonna say something.
SPEAKER_00No, it's a very good point. Um okay, so let's get into some practical things that you can do in your day-to-day that will increase your sustainability or decrease your carbon footprint.
SPEAKER_01Yes. Let's do it.
SPEAKER_00Let's do it. Um the first thing, and this was also advice on Reddit actually, is use you use things you own for their full life instead of upgrading when the new thing comes out. And I think this goes for everything. Like, use your clothes until they're broken, or if they have a hole in it, then fix them and don't just get the new one. Like, use things until they're unusable and then upgrade.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And sadly, this has become harder over time because it's cheaper for companies to just give you a new thing than to fix the old thing. So I do think you have to put in like an extra effort to want to do this, but it just takes a bit of adjustment time, and I do think this is something that does get easier over time if you start practicing it.
SPEAKER_01I agree and disagree. Like, I I mean I agree with use things until like the end of their lives. I think sometimes it really is an extra effort that is super annoying. Yeah. But it's worth it. And like, yeah, I've been in moments where I was like, it would be so much easier for me to just order this thing online and replace it than fix it. For sure. But sometimes it's not just about what's easier, it's what's more sustainable in that sense. So yeah, I just wanted to because you said it's it gets easy, it does get easier, but it's not always the easier option.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, some things are annoying. And with some things you don't have a like, I don't know how to fix my laundry machine. And if my laundry machine is so broken that I can't do it with the YouTube video or have somebody that I know fix it, then I'm gonna have to bring it by the shop and they'll probably give me a new one. Like I I can't apply this to every aspect in life, but I think in some ways it's you can implement it like with your clothes or I don't know, like some tech things you can wear them another year, even if you that means you don't have the highest tech.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. This also I think goes into like you can buy secondhand because a lot of people give up things that are still perfectly usable.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I think with fashion, it this goes into fashion for me. I think you can buy second hand, which the cool thing is that it's like in fashion, at least in Europe. I don't know how it is in the US, but in Europe it's very fashionable to buy secondhand. And what what I'll do sometimes, or what I suggested that you, Naomi and I do, is I'm gonna go through my closet. A clothes party. Yes, a clothes party. And I mean, anyway, when I get rid of my clothes, I never throw them away unless they have holes in them and you couldn't use them anymore. I always put them in a giveaway, which we have here in Switzerland. But some sometimes, yeah, you have things in your closet that you just don't grab or you don't want to wear, and sometimes you feel like getting new clothes, and maybe before you buy new clothes, you can organize a clothes party with your friends and you guys can trade clothes, and then you feel like you have something new, but like not just clothes, I think in general with things, no?
SPEAKER_01Like if I'm done using things, I often post them in a the family chat or something, and I'm like, I don't need this. Does anybody need this or want this?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I mean Ian has these pans that these steel pans, and the other day I went by his place and he's like, Hey, do you want these? Because I just can't manage to cook on these, and it's a shame because I don't use them. So if you want to take them, please do. And just I think stuff like that, instead of thinking, oh, I'll throw it away, nobody wants this anyway, see if you can give this another life. Or if you're thinking of buying something, ask around and see if somebody has it in your vicinity. You'll end up being more sustainable and you'll save you'll save money also. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Which is just like a double bonus.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And I think some things, I understand that some things people don't want to get secondhand, like underwear, or for me, I also don't feel very comfortable getting sports clothes secondhand. But then I will buy um, I'll try to buy sports clothes that I think will last me a long time, and I do wear them until they have holes in them, and that's yeah, you can't definitely can't wear them anymore.
SPEAKER_01Or they get super smelly and you're like, okay. Yeah, gotta go. Um yeah. I also like what the person said, like wash their clothes less. I realize now, okay, in the like in the summer with these heat waves, I am washing my clothes more often. Um, but I don't dry my clothes. Like I do dry my clothes, but I don't put them in a dryer, like I hang them up. Um because like it's already so hot. Why would I be adding to this? Um so I think that and they dry so quickly when it's they dry so quickly. But also in winter I wash my clothes significantly less because they don't smell bad. Like I don't need to wash my t-shirt every time or my pants every time.
SPEAKER_00No, and you can hang them up. I think we said this in the um in the doing your laundry episode. But maybe in case you haven't listened to that, if you haven't, you can go back and listen to it. I think that was a fun episode. But if you've worn a pair of pants, like I like to change up my outfits. I like wearing these pants one day and then I'll change my outfit for the next day. But then those pants don't need to go into the wash.
SPEAKER_01No.
SPEAKER_00And if you hang them up, if you hang your clothes up once you've worn them once, then sometimes just airing them out can do a world of wonder. And then honestly, I'll go and smell the t-shirt, and if it's if it still smells fine, then I'll put it on again. And if not, then it goes in the wash.
SPEAKER_01Unless there's like a very noticeable stain on it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. But I think our standard for cleanliness has also gone up insanely. Like I read an article that um that because there was a disease spreading in Europe, there was the mandatory weekly bath was instituted. And this was only in the early early, like early 19 something, no, 1910.
SPEAKER_01The influenza, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And so like only then did we start bathing weekly, and it was a family bath, and the dad would go first usually because he was typically the breadwinner, and then the rest of the family would go after.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And like to see how far we've come from there. Yes, it's important that we're clean because of health and everything, but I think maybe we've gone a little too far.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I agree with that. I think it in this regard, what you said about the showers as well. Like, we were very fortunate that we grew up in a house that only had one real good bathroom and shower with eight people and a water tank that would run out after like two or three showers. So we like we know how to quick take a quick shower. Yeah, I think learning how to shower in under five minutes, that's a skill. And it's a skill sustainable.
SPEAKER_00I agree. And you can shower and get clean in under five minutes. Oh, yeah. Some people have this association, like, oh, then it's dirty, but girl, you can scrub yourself clean in five minutes, trust me.
SPEAKER_01Even if like if you want to do the conditioner and put or like put a hair mask in, turn off the shower, put on your towel, wait the five minutes, don't just let the water flow. And what a lot of people in Mexico do, because um, like it takes a while, some in some places, for the water to heat up in your shower, is they have a bucket that they put under until the water is heated up enough to catch all that water and then use it to water your plants, to flush the toilet, to like do all these things. Because, like, whenever you're just letting water flowing, what whenever you're just letting water flow, you're using this resource. Source without using it.
SPEAKER_00So what I also wrote down, which I think this is something that you can train yourself in, is stop impulse buying. And we talked about this on the budget episode also. It all comes back together. It all comes together. Sometimes, and there's like there's these interesting like studies which I I can't quote, but like basically the way you feel it impacts highly what you buy. So if you're if you're craving comfort, then there's a high chance you will buy a sweater and like stuff like this. There's funny correlations. And so maybe sometimes or often when you want to buy something in the moment, it makes sense to wait. And what I'll do is I tell myself that I have to wait at least 24 hours. And if I still want it as badly in 24 hours, then I will consider it. But I hardly ever look at something that isn't food and then buy it right away.
SPEAKER_01I think that's a fun way to do it.
SPEAKER_00I think if you are buying though, like what I make sure when I'm buying clothes is now I try to buy good materials because even if it's not produced sustainably, I know that these materials will last for longer.
unknownYes.
SPEAKER_00And I know that I am someone who I will wear my clothes for a long time. Like I'm not someone who can resell my clothes. Yeah. Um, what I also think is important is buy reusable and disposable things when possible. And use those when possible. Like I do have paper towels in my kitchen, but I will hardly ever grab for them.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00If there's a mess, then I will clean it with a washable rag. The paper towels come in if it's something that is so sticky and so gross that it won't wash out of the rag.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And there are rags that you can wash and stuff. Like you can reuse those.
SPEAKER_00I think it makes sense to maybe have your your kitchen rags and your bathroom rags, but that's just because that's a pet peeve of mine. And then if that's if that's an issue for you, you can buy a certain color for your bathroom and certain color for your kitchen. But honestly, it'll get clean if you wash it. Yes, I agree.
SPEAKER_01Recycling is a very big issue.
unknownOh.
SPEAKER_01And I don't like it's different in each country. But like when I lived in Mexico, there was no recycling, and it really was so tough for me to throw everything in the trash because in Switzerland it's cheaper to recycle. Um, so no kind of the how to recycle in the country you're living in, and not to be political, but like your your vote does matter in this sense or like the way the politics are run in your county and your country or whatever. Like how the recycling and is done and stuff like this, you can if you are very passionate about this, like you can be an advocate advocate for this, and like yeah, I think that's super cool. I just wanted to plug that because I do think that is so valuable, the people who are doing this and who are like I think you can sorry, I think you can advocate for it even if you're not perfect in this aspect, even if you're trying.
SPEAKER_00For sure. Which that I think holds people back, holds me back too.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because you want to be like the perfect, like I'm not living so sustainably, so I can't tell others how to live sustainably, which yeah, maybe you can't, but you can advocate for your environment that you're living in to be more sustainable. I think that's we're all a work in progress.
SPEAKER_00We're all a work in progress. Every every little bit makes a difference.
SPEAKER_01Yes. And your decisions do matter. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um, I wanted to mention one thing that I wrote down also is um maybe rethink how you uh get to work every day if you have a if you're a commuter. Um, maybe check, do you have to take the car if you take the car? Could you take the bicycle? I mean, sometimes we're creatures of habit. Sometimes you've been doing something for so long that it's become a habit. Maybe there's another way that you could do that.
SPEAKER_01Also, one of our episodes was how to make a new friend. Find someone who works in your building and lives close. Start doing like car sharing, make it a party when you go to work.
SPEAKER_00Nice, nice. Bringing the OG episodes back a lot.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah. All right.
SPEAKER_00Um, what's what's today's homework? Well, class. Today's homework is try to change one thing you do, which you know impacts the environment negatively, into a positive. So I think we all have one thing that well, probably there's there's definitely multiple things that we're doing that impacts the environment, but we are impacting the environment as humans. But maybe I have some examples. Maybe um, you know, you're an impulse buyer, and so for the next for this next week, try instead of buying right away, put it off for 24 hours. Maybe um you travel to work every day with the car, and this next week you could go once with the bicycle, or you could go with a friend in their car, or you could go with public transport. It's just try. I think it would be really, really cool if people would try for one week to change one thing thing in their life and see how much it actually impacts their day their day-to-day, and if it wouldn't be possible to change that for good.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Another suggestion is to, like you said, shop locally, but also buy seasonal.
SPEAKER_00Be creative, have fun, be creative, and as always, let us know if you try it out. We haven't gotten so many messages yet on the homework, but honestly, we'd love to hear from you guys if you try the homework.
SPEAKER_01If you want to be a true A student, like show your teachers what you've been doing. Um, do you have any funny stories?
SPEAKER_00It's hard to find funny stories, but I actually do. Okay, nice. Um, when I was 17, I did a month in in France. Which, by the way, guys, it was super important to me that I didn't fly to France, which I'm quite proud of myself as a 17-year-old. Um, and so we took the car there because my parents went f our parents went further afterwards, and then I took the train back. But anyway, when I was there, um I would go shopping with like for food and also clothes shopping with the people that I met at the language school, and I would always have in my bag a little um rolled up tote, which I often have with me, because I think these plastic bags are just it always hurts me when I have to get a plastic bag because I forgot to bring because it's so like it's so unnecessary to have get a plastic bag. Anyway, I'm totally the same.
SPEAKER_01I'm like, just like I I'm better than this.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And I will try to carry, like, if I can anyway carry it without getting a plastic bag, I will. But you know, it's not always possible. Um, and when I got out this bag, there was I was with this a girl from Spain and two girls from the UK, and they just looked at me and I was like, what? They were like, oh my god, you're so Swiss. Like, you carry a you carry a tote bag with you. I was like, um, okay. I didn't think that it was something weird for me. It was just natural, because I think a lot of Swiss people do this. But I think in our circle, yeah. Yeah, in our circle. Yeah, that's true. Um, and this also, guys, if you're looking for a homework, I think if you can start just putting, even if it's a plastic bag, if it's a plastic bag you already own, just put it in the backpack you take to work, and if you end up getting groceries on the way home, then you don't have to get a new plastic bag. Yeah. So, yeah, that was my I mean it was yeah, that was my funny story that they were very, very shocked that I had that would I would carry a tote bag with me, crumpled up in my little fanny pack.
SPEAKER_01That's cute. I couldn't think of one story, but it like you know, when you're walking through nature and you see a piece of trash and you walk by it, and it takes you a few seconds to register what you just walked by, and you're like, it's fine, it doesn't matter, there's so much trash everywhere that you keep walking. I've I feel like I often do this where I keep walking because I'm like, I just it's not my problem, blah blah. And then I will get like two minutes into like further in my walk, and I'm like, God damn it, I have to turn around stop talking about this piece of trash. And I've had this multiple times. But I often catch myself like, no, it's not is this isn't my problem, and then usually the good voice gets the better of me, and it's just like turn around. Your time is not that valuable, like it is that valuable, but like this is more important.
SPEAKER_00So I feel like that's it's more important, yeah. That's a good story. The only time I or not the only time, I won't do it if it's like a napkin. That I don't it grosses me out too much.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I will say I often have disinfectant in my bag.
SPEAKER_00Ah, that's a good that's a good plan. I should do that.
SPEAKER_01Uh not that I I don't like I prefer washing my hands with soap because that's more sustainable, like medically seen, but if I'm gonna pick up trash, I am disinfecting my hands. Like, you know, you gotta you gotta live in a a healthy way as well. Healthily sustainable. There we go.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Ramble ramble.
SPEAKER_00Ramble, ramble, ramble. Um I'm really curious to see how you guys get on. And maybe you have some other tips, because I mean, there's no way to cover all the things that you can do in a 30-minute episode, but I hope we got we got the most important or some important cliffs.
SPEAKER_01And if we forgot something, honestly, like leave a comment and let us know because I'm also always looking for ways that I can live more sustainably. And I feel like everybody has these tips and tricks that they live by, and it's so nice to share this. So yeah. Um all right. See you later, Ace Students.
SPEAKER_00See you later. Don't be an asshole.