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The Sawdust to Success Podcast
Where real remodelers learn to grow, market, and master their business.
Hosted by Chad Murray — a lifelong contractor turned multi-7-figure entrepreneur, coach, and marketing expert — The Sawdust Sessions is the podcast built for remodelers who want more than just tools and tape measures.
Each week, you’ll learn how to:
- Market your business like a pro — from Google domination to lead systems that actually convert.
- Build and lead a winning team with real-world coaching strategies that create growth and freedom.
- Leverage business loans and funding the smart way — so you can scale without the stress or guesswork.
From sales and leadership to financing and marketing, every episode cuts through the noise with clear, actionable steps you can use right now to grow your remodeling business faster and more profitably.
If you’re ready to stop “just working jobs” and start building a business that works for you, grab your headphones and pull up a seat — because The Sawdust Sessions are about to begin.
🔨 Learn. Build. Scale. Repeat.
The Sawdust to Success Podcast
#3 George Hedley - Getting Off the Low-Bid Treadmill
Let Go to Grow: Contractor Coach George Headley on Scaling, Specialization, and Getting Off the Low-Bid Treadmill
If you’re a home remodeling contractor tired of chasing word-of-mouth, guessing at marketing, or living in cash-flow panic, this one’s for you. Chad sits down with George Hedley—legendary contractor turned coach—who grew a commercial construction company from $0 to $50M in seven years, built/developed millions of square feet, and now runs Hard Hat Biz Groups helping owners scale with systems, leadership, and profit.
George breaks down the mindset and moves that separate stressed operators from true owners: hiring before you feel ready, delegating the work so you can win the work, specializing to command margins, and choosing higher-value markets on purpose. Chad adds real-world stories from exiting his own service/remodeling company—how stepping out of day-to-day created an asset buyers lined up to purchase.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
- Why “let go to grow” is the only path past 2–8 employees
- How to buy back your time: spend money → gain time → scale
- The specialization advantage (dialysis centers → 20% net!) and how it applies to remodelers
- Targeting high-end zip codes and projects to attract $100k–$300k+ remodels
- Building a leadership org (GM vs. PM vs. CFO/Controller) and when to hire each
- How peer groups + accountability (P&L, org charts, KPIs) compress years into months
- Escaping the low-price treadmill without losing deal flow
Guest:
George Hedley, Contractor Coach & Founder, Hard Hat Biz Groups — 26-year World of Concrete speaker, author, and coach to $3M–$150M construction firms.
Chad’s Takeaway: Freedom isn’t found in doing the work—it’s built by leading the people who do the work, aiming at the right market, and installing systems that run without you.
Get Your Business to Work! (BenBella; also sold on his sites/Amazon).
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Contact & links
- Email: gh@hardhatbizcoach.com
; Phone: 800-851-8553; Contact form on site.
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Websites: hardhatbizcoach.com (primary), hardhatpresentations.com (speaking/resources).
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- Mastermind info request: GH@HardhatPresentations.com
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hardhatbizcoach.com - LinkedIn: /in/georgehedley.
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Call to Action:
- Want help targeting higher-value remodels and building a business that runs without you? Book a discovery call with Chad and get your first action plan.
If you want to start winning bigger jobs, faster, this episode gives you the exact process you can implement tomorrow.
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