Are We Glowing or Just Influenced? Red Light Masks & Beauty Trends

In this episode, Dina and Jules chat about red light masks, lymph drainage, and all the beauty trends we keep seeing everywhere. From celebrity routines to the products that suddenly feel like a necessity, we talk about what we’ve tried, what we’re curious about, and how easy it is to fall down the beauty rabbit hole.

We share our thoughts on LED masks, the rise of infrared everything, and whether these treatments are genuinely worth it — or if we’re all just a little too easily influenced. It’s a light, honest conversation about skincare, trends, and the things we have genuinely tried!

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:04

Hi Julie! Hi Dina! Welcome to Everyday Something Podcast.

SPEAKER_03 0:11

We're back, we're back, we're back. Yes, we are. Talking about uh we're on our little beauty tip um realm at the moment, aren't we? We did the exactly we did uh browse last week, last um episode.

SPEAKER_02 0:28

Yeah, we are going to talk about a little gadget that we have that we think is underrated. We are gonna talk a little bit more in depth about red light therapy therapy and red light masks or LED mask. I guess that's the yeah. And we are specifically talking about the current body one um that we have been recently using and that we acquired from the UK, yeah. And even after using it for quite a short time, we already see amazing results. So I was this was my first time using I've never tried it before. So for me, I didn't know what to expect really. I didn't uh Jules did all the research, so I trusted her, so I didn't do much about I knew that it's really good for inflammation, for blood, uh collagen reproduction, collagen and sunspots, even right yeah, yeah, bacteria, bacteria, bacteria, bacteria, yeah. So I've tried it when I when I first put it on, I had some pimples around my face uh at that time, and it really kind of totally removed them within a few uses, like I had no scarring, I had nothing. Um but only after about two weeks, three weeks, I really saw the difference in my skin. And not only did I saw that, but people are like stopping me, like, oh my god, you're glowing in the commented first thing. I got scared for a second. I was pregnant.

SPEAKER_03 2:18

Then I remembered it must be the mask because the first thing I said to you were like, What have you done to your face? And I saw the look on your face, and you probably thought, I mean, you look like you've got like a new, like new makeup. I thought you had like a bronzing makeup.

SPEAKER_02 2:32

No, it's the mask. It really uh another thing I noticed, it completely um it kind of uh softened my under-eye. Like I had quite a dark circle, dark circle, like bluish kind of like color. I always had to use the concealer, but now the last week or so I haven't used a concealer and I feel a lot fresher and plumper, my skin feels plumper, and it's just amazing. So I'm really looking forward to using it for longer.

SPEAKER_03 3:07

Yeah, no, I'm uh you know, I've been a um mass advocate for uh red light uh therapy from a very long time, um, particularly LEDs um on the face. I use uh used it post-laser treatments in Australia, so that would always just be healing. Yeah, it's a great healer, yeah. Um particularly for bruising in particular, especially if you're going through that, um, if you've had IPL, etc. And um even if you've had like uh retinol masks and things that you're going through that process, it just it really just calms the skin down. Um but I used to use a commercial one for like three times a week. And I I did it mainly for back then just you know collagen, accommodate uh stimulation of collagen, etc. But I would find too that it would dry up any, you know, small bacteria, you know, like any little pimples, etc. Um, but it was more my pigmentation. Like I just found that my pigmentation was less and less every time I used it. But and it's also and almost and it's also quite relaxing too. I'm not sure if you've noticed that, but it's just it's really relaxed. It's a good I mean I used I usually you do it in the morning, but it's really nice to do it at night time as well because it just kind of just relaxes you.

SPEAKER_02 4:35

Yeah, I I am the type who needs to I need to lie down, oh do you put it on, close my eyes, like that's my ten minutes now of relaxation. Nice one. I don't like to walk around with it because um I have the only issue I have with it is the lights. Okay, because my eyes are very sensitive to lights, so I can't keep my eyes open while I use it. Uh-huh. Because it you know strong lights cause migraine for me. Right, right. So I have to lie down, close my eyes, but then that's a good excuse for having myself.

SPEAKER_03 5:12

Because usually the commercial ones are around 20 minutes. Um but and I have tried many of the masks themselves, you know, through um, you know, beauty clinics, and this one is I have to say is incredible because it's silicon. Yeah, um, a lot of the other masks have always been quite immoral and hard. Yeah. And they fail in those situations because not everyone's face size is the same. Yeah. So I find this one great because you've got to be really careful with these home masks, is they've got to have um the right amount of bulbs. Yeah. This one has it on the nose. And under the chin, if you notice, there's an under the chin. So good. Um, so there's in lots of areas that a lot of other masks don't have, even in like above the lip area. And um, and you've also got to be mindful that you get the benefit is having it red light and infrared. Yeah, that's the the right combination to have.

SPEAKER_02 6:13

Yeah, it changes as the ten minutes go by, it changes.

SPEAKER_03 6:16

Yeah, because I used to always do that.

SPEAKER_02 6:18

I used to have blue light, but I just found that the infrared and red are the it just it seems to cover a lot of ground for the skin that that you need as opposed to Yeah, it is, it's very comfortable and you don't need to think, you just press a button and it the the terra the session lasts for ten minutes, yeah. And it's recommended three to five times a week.

SPEAKER_03 6:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:44

So yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:46

And on clean skin, especially when using the masks. I think that I mean if you're going to a lot of clinics now, you know that they put masks on you before you use a treatment, which is uh I don't know, that's that's changed as the years have progressed. I've never had to, but you know, like you can just put hyaluronic serum serum on your skin. But uh maybe it's to disinfect disinfect your feelings. No, I think that what their belief is now is that the light um penetrates deeper if you put the serum. I don't know. Um I I've that I haven't done any research on to know the pros and cons. That's what a lot of the salons are doing now. I've I've have noticed that a lot of the red light masks or you know, commercial um machines, they're like the they're a lot stronger, you know. And now they've got green light and yellow light and all sorts of so you know obviously the technology's changed, but I think you know, less is more but stick to the basics because exactly and it's been proven that it's FDA approved that's one thing that you need to, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:50

Yeah, that infrared is so good for and that it's inflammation.

SPEAKER_03 7:55

Yeah, it's the inflammation, 100%, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:57

And even like you know, okay, using it on the face is one thing, but even using it using infrared, those lights, the the lights around, you know, your thyroid, your even like muscles, like the people use it for the things.

SPEAKER_03 8:13

Oh yeah, they've got they got the um the mats. I've noticed they have that in the mats. I I'm curious to what people if if if anyone's tried the ones with the mats, what they what they think.

SPEAKER_02 8:22

I guess uh Paris Hilton was the one that that really started like really kicked off this trend a lot because it's of which of the mats or the masts.

SPEAKER_03 8:33

Oh really?

SPEAKER_02 8:34

She said she puts it on her dog and the dog the dog lived to like 25.

SPEAKER_03 8:40

So now all the people are putting the dog was like dust bags and masks on their dog because I was watching a uh an Instagram post of a woman who does um she educates people on lymph drainage. That's another thing that is going to be.

SPEAKER_02 8:58

That's not the new I see they're popping on my Instagram. The drainage.

SPEAKER_03 9:04

Yeah. You mean the manual one or with the because you know now that they're doing there's this woman, I think she's Croatian, but she lives in America. Um I forgot what her name is. Memorables. But she has a mask, uh sorry, a mat, I've got to kind of speak, a mat, a red light there, and she does her lymph drainage on the mat.

SPEAKER_01 9:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 9:24

I don't know what the benefit is. I'm curious.

SPEAKER_01 9:26

It's also like it's also you know, inflammation and calming, calming the maybe moving the lymph a little bit more.

SPEAKER_02 9:34

But I've been seeing so many videos of how to do your techniques, yeah. Yeah, and I I just feel like you know, that's the new trend now. Like every time, yeah, you know, every few months there's the new trend.

SPEAKER_03 9:48

What are your thoughts on that that like because there's so many different techniques? Like there's the gentler technique around the eyes. Sorry, you start, you you tap, you tap on the shoulder blades, right? Is that you need to open up the seven spots.

SPEAKER_02 10:03

Right, which are seven. One is on your collarbone.

SPEAKER_03 10:06

Collarbone, sorry, not collarbone, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:08

Yeah, one is below the collarbone. Yeah, that's on both sides. Then you have under the armpits. Okay. And you need to tap it, like you need to massage it gently for at least 20 to 30 times.

SPEAKER_03 10:21

Okay, as in counting.

SPEAKER_02 10:22

Yeah, yeah. And then there's one on the stomach, in the middle of the stomach. That's where you're you can sometimes even feel I I feel mine. It's like a pump. You feel like the under the rib cage part? Yeah, like in the middle of your tummy. Okay, you massage that, and it's really true. Like when you massage it, it completely relaxes, you know. Okay. And then on your groin, on along your groin, that's not here, above the just on the sides. Yeah, you tapped it. And then you massage tap and massage it. Right. And the last one is under the knee. Okay. Again, 20 times 30 times. Right, right. And then you do it again above the collarbones because that's where you have to, that's where everything drains through. Right, yes. So when you're opening these, you need to do these again so that it drains through. Right. And then the actual massage is supposed to be like the way they describe it, is like a cut caterpillar. You're actually pulling your skin up, always upwards. You always pull upwards.

SPEAKER_03 11:22

From the you mean from your knee to your glowing area.

SPEAKER_02 11:26

Yeah, and down here as well. You can do it the same way on your lower leg. Right. And same thing on your arms, and you just have to always but don't you flush the arm towards the arm piece? Yeah, but the same way.

SPEAKER_03 11:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:41

Gentle. Right. With kind of like pulling your skin movements, not strong and like high. That's not lymph. Lymph is on the surface. Yes. So you're doing, but first, as you first you clear the seven, seven.

SPEAKER_03 11:58

There's there's an there's a name for it, isn't it? And I can't even think what that is. Lymph notes? Lymph nodes, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:02

And then you do the massage gently. Um, and you can do it, you know, in in circular motions as well, but it's all supposed to be very gentle.

SPEAKER_03 12:12

Because I have seen, so I do the I get it wrong, without a doubt, because there's so many different versions. There's the tap in the um collarbone, and then when I get to the chest area, I'm f I'm kind of using my flat hand and stroke and doing strokes towards my armpit. Same stuff. Yeah, but then aren't you supposed to go into your face like around your. Right, because you're opening up the nose. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 12:49

And then you do the face. You do the you can do the your sinuses.

SPEAKER_03 12:53

Sinuses, and then you go towards the ear, yeah? Yeah. And then you go behind the ear?

SPEAKER_02 12:57

Yeah. Pull it down towards your neck.

SPEAKER_03 12:59

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 13:00

Here on the neck, you can do your tonsils. This really works. This is if you have a sore throat, you wake up with a sore throat in the morning, right? You clear the limbs and you pull on the side of your neck downwards. I will tell you, in most of the time, unless you have a bad virus, yeah, yeah. Um, your sore throat will be gone. Because uh, maybe that night your tonsils couldn't couldn't drain properly. Like my my tonsils don't work as well because I had so many infections as a kid. Right. So I really manually have to drain them through my neck.

SPEAKER_03 13:36

Didn't you tell me were you like grabbing them at something at one point?

SPEAKER_02 13:40

Or you that's not really the uh this is the nerve. The nerve, uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03 13:43

Oh, that's something else.

SPEAKER_02 13:44

That's different. Okay. That's if you have tension in this.

SPEAKER_03 13:48

So what we're dragging it down to the to yeah, and you can pull the behind the ear.

SPEAKER_02 13:54

Yeah, you can even pull your ear. Okay, uh, starting from the top all the way to the bottom, and as you pull it, you can actually feel the release of this.

SPEAKER_03 14:07

Sometimes I feel like my um nose start to drip. Yeah, yeah. If I'm doing it properly, I'll I'll always know if I'm not, but it is like you said, you gotta take your time with it.

SPEAKER_02 14:19

Yeah, because we don't have lymph doesn't have a pump, it's not like a heart, which pumps the blood. Lymph really needs to be pumped either through exercise or through this manual way, a manual massage, or different massages that you use, or those equipment that you have, like that squeezes your legs and like those boots.

SPEAKER_03 14:43

But would you say, like, you know, how you were saying the other day when you did your trip and you were sitting down for a long, lengthy period of time, you knew that was your lymph, because you know, but would you say that if your neck you know is tight or um that would that also block you know the whole sort of sign that sinus lymph passageway, you know, through the it can block it can block your neck, but neck is usually tension around your okay, right, right, which kind of pulls your yeah, gotcha, but it could be some blockage somewhere, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:16

But this is the thing, right? Uh lymph gets more stagnant for people who sit a lot, right? Like if you're at a desk job or something, and then people think, okay, I'm gonna do eight hours at my job and then I'm gonna go for an hour walk. But that doesn't work. Okay, you can't just clear, you just can't move that limp once a day.

SPEAKER_03 15:42

Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 15:43

It's very important that in between, like every half an hour, you get up, you do maybe like those cough raises, or you move your stimulate, you stim you get stimulated. You gotta stimulate it all the time. It's not enough that you walk for 10,000 steps while you were sitting the whole day.

SPEAKER_03 16:01

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:02

Because you need to stimulate it often for it to work.

SPEAKER_03 16:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:07

And uh, you know, because that's like your sewage system.

SPEAKER_03 16:11

All your 100%, all the nonsense goes out through your interesting, like I never paid any attention to the whole lymph until I until I met you. Yeah, like you with LED until you met me. But it's interesting. I just didn't, and then it m made such perfect sense. Because I remember having lymph, I was always getting regular massages and he was always doing a lymph massage.

SPEAKER_02 16:33

Yeah, actually every massage.

SPEAKER_03 16:35

Yeah, true, true, true.

SPEAKER_02 16:36

Doing your lymph as well.

SPEAKER_03 16:38

But this guy was literally and you don't and you just you just know as soon as you stand up and you look in the mirror, you feel like you've lost ten years off your life because it's drained everything.

SPEAKER_02 16:47

Exactly. And and this is why when you do your face, uh face limp lymph drainage, you can see it immediately. Yeah, you can shows you that it works, you know, when you especially if you wake up and you're puffy and swollen and all that. It's still ice, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:02

I don't know about that. I mean, I don't mind the um ice bucket thing, that's become a massive trend now, hasn't it? The icing and and but you know, I think that you can still get the same benefit as just getting an ice cube and just going around your your eye as well as opposed to your whole person.

SPEAKER_02 17:21

What are those called ice baths, yeah. Plunges are very controversial nowadays. Some people say it's actually really not that great for you, and some people swear by it.

SPEAKER_03 17:33

I swear by it, yeah. I swear the by the plunge, and yeah, because I've noticed a difference in my body, maybe too, because it's like the whole menopausal thing. It's yeah, especially when I was on the coast. I used to do, you know, c go into icy cold water, and it yeah, I I felt the difference in my body, but then again, I'm you know quite active as well at the same time. Yeah, but I was oh, I saw that video that you were talking about with Charlize there on because she does look amazing, and she was talking about the LED. And I'm like, oh babe, like you do look, she does look very different from you know, she's had she she work, she has does do Botox. She's done some work between the work. Which is fine, yeah, yeah. But it's not just you know LED. Look, I do yeah, I do be I just think the LED um for me, and you can see it on you already, yeah. The tech it's what it does, it gives you a more I think even texture. Um do you think? Even complexion on your skin.

SPEAKER_02 18:26

Yeah. By the way, did you see Olivia Wilde? Oh god Oh my gosh, I have to I have to I I I have to mention this now when we're talking about I thought, I always thought she was one of the most gorgeous actresses out there. I think she looks she always looked not never never too much makeup.

SPEAKER_03 18:49

Is this the one that was with Harry Styles? That one? Is this the one?

SPEAKER_02 18:53

Yeah, I think she was, right? Yeah, she was at one point. So she has overdone with Yosempik. Oh, you have to see it's on Instagram, all over Instagram today. Today is the news came out. She has she looks like just bone. Just bone, and those she has big eyes. Now the eyes got a big forehead too. Now the eyes have like bulged out. Why do people do this to themselves?

SPEAKER_03 19:21

But look what happened to the Osbornes.

SPEAKER_02 19:23

Yeah. They just they just too much. I just don't understand how you don't look at yourself in the mirror and think, okay, I've overdone it. Now it's time to eat.

SPEAKER_03 19:35

But I think it's like a an addiction if they can get to that. I think what happens is people get to that skinny and then they're too scary. It's like, but when you get that skinny, surely you don't go, I can't eat that biscuit because I'm gonna get too fat. That's the part that concerns me. It's like I would I would literally go and eat McDonald's. Like, you know what I mean? Like it's such a it's a scary It's really scary.

SPEAKER_02 19:57

What does what does injections do to people? It's super scary. Like I just like I'm thinking, what soon is everyone gonna walk around looking like zombies? Like what is gonna happen to this world?

SPEAKER_03 20:10

Because everyone's getting on these injections, even I thought that weren't they uh weren't they um controlling it by some means or not really? Is it not it depends which country?

SPEAKER_02 20:21

I I uh spoke to my friend in England. Right so this is how you do it in England. You have online pharmacies, you send them an email, right? Okay, they ask for your photograph, plus certain, like if you have like let's say high cholesterol or is it isn't it but isn't it is it it's a diabetic, is no, what is it for mainly initially it was for diabetes? Diabetes, yes, but now it's like for weight loss basically. More used, I think it's more used for weight loss than diabetes at the moment. And she goes, you just send them those, you send them your photo, prescription. They prescribe it because you need a prescription, yeah. Yeah, but they're not cheap, yeah? They are like two three hundred euros a month or uh yeah, okay. Wow, and you need to like smaller doses is cheaper, and then you have to you have to gradually get to a higher dosage. I mean you have different types now, not only Ozempic.

SPEAKER_03 21:23

Yeah, did you read? Did you watch that series on Netflix that I told you about the Ozempic?

SPEAKER_02 21:27

How it wasn't controlled that the doctors were yeah, again, giving it out to just about anyone who yeah, at the moment I think the doctors have gotten green light, like give it to as many people as possible because they're making so much money on it. And there is lawsuits, like there is a website that you can go to that shows you all the lawsuits that have been going on that are going on against it. You can see all the health um conditions that these people have been having. And some of them are serious. It's pancreatic.

SPEAKER_03 22:02

Yeah, most of it is pancreatic. That's right. That's what I remember the series.

SPEAKER_02 22:07

And um, okay, these new ones that have come up, apparently they're not as bad as Ozempic.

SPEAKER_03 22:14

Like they have milder symptoms. But again, but it's still the overall effect is still the same.

SPEAKER_02 22:19

Some people it mess up their whole body, to some people it doesn't, so it's it's very risky.

SPEAKER_03 22:24

Watch the watch that series, you'll see it. It's just it they have all these pancreatic um issues, but they don't stop it. It's not it'll never it'll never stop, it'll never get banned. That's basically what it is.

SPEAKER_02 22:35

Yeah, and what happens is once you stop taking it, your b because your body has been in starvation mode now for whatever amount six months, one year, whatever amount you've been using it, your body is so hungry, right? Yeah, so you start eating, yes, not like how you used to eat, but you start eating double or triple.

SPEAKER_03 22:56

And your body doesn't have the signals to say it's full. That's the frightening part. Yeah, because it just keeps you just because your cells are hungry. You're you know, like I couldn't imagine doing that to myself. No, it's crazy. I mean, it's crazy, and especially like okay, I understand if you are really obese. She looked fine.

SPEAKER_02 23:17

I was in credit. I went to search on Google if this is AI, maybe, because I couldn't believe that this is how she looks.

SPEAKER_03 23:28

You know what the scare? I think you always have to wonder and question, no wonder. There obviously must be going so there's obviously something going on much deeper in people, you know, where you know she's a famous actress, she looks great, you know, from my perspective. You just you see her one way, but she's obviously got you know these underlying underlying issues within herself where she felt that she needed to lose more weight.

SPEAKER_02 23:53

Yeah, and it's that pressure, right? The industry pressure, and suddenly and suddenly they have a solution. You see? Before you used to have to either starve yourself or exercise extra out. Now they have a quick solution uh that will that can make you so skinny like never before in your life.

SPEAKER_03 24:14

I just I mean, I don't know if it's to do with people's lifestyles that that but you know, like back in my day and no doubt your day, we were you know, we would diet, yeah, go to the gym, you know, do something active, and we knew that we would have to put in the work. Yeah, and yes, it would take a while, but these days that's what that seems to be what's happening. People don't want to put in the work, or they might not feel like they have the time to put in the work and they just want a quick fix.

SPEAKER_02 24:40

Yeah, exactly, exactly. And you know, uh it's not healthy, it can't be healthy. It can't be healthy unless you have some serious health issues, yeah. Yeah, then I totally agree. It's better to to lose the weight than to have the consequences of it.

SPEAKER_03 24:56

I mean, if she had diabetes and she was using that years ago, well then that would be different. But she, you know, she just looked. It's very sad. So yeah, stick to the LED, I think.

SPEAKER_02 25:06

And healthy eating, healthy eating and drunk, exercising, let's do let's do it the old-fashioned thing. What were we all saying?

SPEAKER_03 25:15

Rome wasn't built in a day.

unknown 25:18

Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 25:19

Same with your bodies, baby. Come on, easy, and help yourself with the LED with the LED as much as possible, yeah. But we we found it, we have found it. Uh Dina and I went harvest in the mask. Um, we put it was 400 uh pounds, so it was about 460 euro. Yeah, but it's been the best investment. Yeah, exactly. It's just perfect. It's like having seriously, one one 10-minute session is like having multiple facials.

SPEAKER_02 25:49

Especially if you're like me, I hate going for facial. Yeah, yeah, I'm not. I'm not a big fan. So this is perfect.

SPEAKER_03 25:56

Yeah, it's like having 10 mini facials at once.

SPEAKER_02 25:58

Exactly. Yeah, all right. Hopefully, you found this interesting.

SPEAKER_03 26:03

If you have any LED or infrared stories, or mats or I'm curious to know how those things work, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_02 26:10

And yeah, we'll see you next week for the next episode of session. Yeah, yeah. Okay, thanks for tuning in, guys.

SPEAKER_01 26:18

Thanks for tuning in. Bye bye.

SPEAKER_03 26:20

Bye.