The Draw: Young Winners Taking Over Tours, Europe’s Solheim Cup Team Solidified

In this episode of The Draw, hosts Nathan and Brian recap the performances of two young tour winners.

At the 2026 AIG Women’s Open at Royal Lytham & St Annes, 23-year-old Shiho Kuwaki won her first LPGA title and first major championship in a two-hole playoff. On the PGA Tour, 24-year-old Michael Thorbjornsen won the Rocket Classic with a closing 63, continuing a trend of under-24 winners lately on tour. The hosts advocate for Thorbjornsen and Jackson Koivun's selection to the Presidents Cup team this fall.

They then go on to preview the Wyndham Championship, the final event before the FedExCup playoffs begin, and discuss Europe’s Solheim Cup captain’s picks and U.S. auto-qualifiers. They end by diving into the rumors of LIV's financial distress and a players-only meeting. 

The Draw is a Fairway to Green podcast. See all episodes at www.fairwaytogreen.com.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Welcome back to the Draw, a Fairy to Green podcast. And this week we had another duo of young winners on the LPG and PGA tour. We're going to start with the final major of the year on both the women's and men's

AIG Women's Open Playoff Win for Shiho Kuwaki

SPEAKER_00 0:11

side. The 2026 AAG Women's Open at Lithum St. Anne's in England. She Ho Kowaki wins in a two-hole playoff. And it was a really good finish to the tournament. The course played a lot different. I know I think someone mentioned that early on in the week they were hitting three wood into the 16th hole, I think it was. And this on Sunday during the final round, they had like nine iron and eight iron. So Kowaki getting her first major win, her first win on the LPJ tour. She's a three-time or four-time winner over on the Japan LPJ tour. And she's not going to say it's the greatest up and down ever in major championship history. But the up and down she made on the first playoff hole from I think it was 186, she chops out, hits a wedge to a foot or two, and makes par, and Esther Henselight, her playing competitor, makes par two. I mean, that saved her tournament because I saw that lie and I'm like, oh, the tournament's done. But she came back and played an excellent second playoff hole. But man, it was a really cool finish towards the end of that tournament.

SPEAKER_01 1:10

Yeah, it was a cool tournament. After the first two rounds that appeared, Hair on You, she was going to win her third major in a row, which would have been very pretty crazy for her to win the third major of the year of Nellie Corner and Hair on You. Still kind of is, but uh yeah, after the first three holes on Saturday, her tournament just went very poorly. She shot like five over after she buried a couple holes on Saturday. And then similar story on Sunday, she shot two over. It kind of took her out of the tournament. Like she had a chance on Sunday, but unfortunately didn't have her best stuff. But then Kowaki, she played very well. I know if you saw her on TV, you could not miss her. She was wearing on Saturday, she was wearing neon green pants, and then Sunday she was wearing a really bold green shirt with you know like a striped pant, uh big line, a stripe on her pants. So and the yellow ball too. She's got the whole colorful, she got the colorful coordination going on, which I actually love. I love when players do something different than just like basic, boring Nike clothes, although those are still cool, but I like the little style. But yeah, it was nice to see a new winner. She is, I think, a five-time winner on the JLPGA, and she's won twice this season. So she has been playing very well. I think she's only 22, so she can choose to, you know, accept immediate membership on the LPGA tour. So the rest of the season she'll play out here, or she can just defer and start next season on the LPGA tour, which I think more most likely that's what she will be doing, because unless she needs lots of money now, I think she'll just hang out there on the J LPGA and then come over because she did win $1.5 million. So I don't think she's too much in a hurry to head over to the LPGA tour. But another good week, last major the season, and it's good to see a new winner. Although I do like Nelly Corda and Hair on you.

SPEAKER_00 2:53

Yeah, I mean, shout out to Esther Hensley, who finished second.

Esther Henseleit’s Putt to Join the Playoff

SPEAKER_00 2:57

She was in the lead, she makes a bad bogey. I think it was on the 16th hole and makes a par and 17. She needs a birdie, and she made a 40-foot birdie put on 18 to force a playoff. And I mean, she had like 120 yards in, if I remember right, and she just an okay wedge to 40 feet and just center cut. Her hand goes up halfway to the hole, and I'm like, is this in? And I'm like, oh wow, it was on a perfect line. Great read. She did everything right on the first playoff hole. She gave herself, I think it was like 10-12 feet for Birdie and missed it. And again, Kawaki made a really good up and down, like I mentioned before. The unfortunate part was her ball, her T-shot on the second playoff hole, it looked like it was clearing. I think it hit the volunteer and went into like the course bush. They've showed replays, like it hits something and bounces almost sideways or backwards. So she got a really bad break. You know, she did get it up there to the eight to ten feet and missed that par button, made a bogey, and Kwaki wins with a par. But I mean, it's her best finish of her career in a major. It propelled her onto the Swam Cup team, which we'll talk about here in a couple minutes. That would have been a really cool story, too. If I mean, still cool story, Kowaki winning, but again, Hensley winning, that would have been a good story. Halimi No started the final round with a I think it was a four-shot lead, and just I think she shot four over to finish solo third. A disappointing finish, but still her best finish of this season. So she said afterwards she's was like, Can I do this anymore? Am I good enough? And she finishes third and she goes, This week's kind of rejuvenated me, so that's cool. Nellie Corda, Gino Titacoon, T4. We'll

Jeeno Thitikul and Nelly Korda’s Major Takeaways

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start with Gino because it's another year, and it's another year of no majors for Gino. She led after the first round, played excellent, and then just was kind of disappointing the rest of the week. And she's gonna have to go through another rest of the year in offseason of when is this gonna happen? I mean, she's in the same boat as right, like Patrick King and Tommy Fleetwood is probably a better comparison for Gino than Patrick Cantley is, but again, and she still was in striking distance with like a couple holes to play, only two back. She was at two under and just didn't get anything going. And it's just like, alright, like when is it gonna happen for Gino? I don't know. Nellie was great, other than I mean, she had two good rounds, two batteries. She goes 73, 68, 73, 68. So again, to finish three shots back, and she shot seven three two days, she probably's kicking herself at like she could have been a three-time major champion this season. I mean, still a couple stats for Nelly. She has four top ten finishes in majors this year. She's the first person to do that in over a decade. She earned more money in major championships than all but two male golfers. I'm assuming that those male golfers are probably Scotty Scheffler and someone else. So still a fantastic major season for Nelly. Two wins, two other top tens. But I think it's like, what is it about Gino in these majors? It like, I don't know. She played great and then just can't follow it up with good rounds. She suits 64 and goes 73, 72, 73. I mean, that's one of the stories I feel like we have to talk about coming out of this major season.

SPEAKER_01 6:13

Absolutely. She's gonna be kicking herself. I think this week was her best chance to win a major of the entire year. I know she was pretty close to one of the earlier majors of the season, but this one was the one for her to win. She had she was winning after the first round. It seemed like, you know, not everyone, not the big names weren't quite up there. I know Hair on You was still up there a little bit, but Gino was up there. She was in first place after the first round, she was in prime position, and then she just kind of let it go like she kind of she squandered it. And yeah, Hairon U was winning by quite a bit, you know, late early Saturday and you know, late Friday, but she gave that away. All the chances were there for Gino. Even going into the final round, Gino had all the chances. She was at four under, and Shiho Kuwaki and Esther Hensley were also at four under par. So those two made a charge while Gino did the opposite. So Gino had all the chances to get up there and win her first major, and it's just very disappointing. She has, I think, seven top tens in majors in her career without a win. And for someone with the level of play we've seen, she's won the last two CME tour championships at the end of the year, big all the big tournament with all the money. She's won that the last two years. I think she has, I think, a handful, maybe five other LPGA tour wins. So she is very capable of winning these tournaments and I guess bigger tournaments with the tour championship, but she just can't win a major. So I guess as you mentioned, it's another year, another offseason of just you know what could have been for Gino. And you gotta think it's gotta happen at some point. I still believe it's happening at some point because she's still like fairly young, but I'm just I'm a little disappointed, but I it's gonna it has to happen at some point. She's too good for it to not happen.

SPEAKER_00 7:51

Yeah, I think you bring it. It's one of those things it's not of if, it's a when. It's like with Roar, it's like when is he gonna win another major? It wasn't gonna be an if he's Roar and McElroy. Phil Mickelson took a long time, Dustin Johnson took a long time, but then you see these other players like Colin Morakawa, he wins two very quickly. I mean, even for Xander Shoffley, it took a while, but then he picks off two in a year. So maybe that's what it is. Maybe she wins one and then she has that freedom and she wins multiple, like like Nelly did this year. So yeah, I don't really know what it is because I still thought coming down the stretch, the final nine holes, I thought Gino was like, Yeah, you're two back of a couple players on this leaderboard that have never been in this position. You're the second best player in the world. You should be able to chase them down. And she just she was fine. It's

Why Royal Lytham & St Annes Played So Tough

SPEAKER_00 8:35

I don't know, it's her ball striking was okay. And again, it was a difficult course. It was playing really tough, really dry. If you got in some of these bunkers, they were deadly. I think they said they had like 160 bunkers on this course this week, which is wild, and then they followed it up. There used to be 300, and they eliminated half of them. So I thought it was a really cool course. I'd love to see more open championships, both men's and women's on this course. I know I think the last time a men's held it was maybe 2012, or I don't remember. Ernie L's won, I don't remember the year. So that it was I thought it was a really cool tournament. I thought the course played really well. Yeah, but uh yeah, Gino, we'll see. Uh again, she's won big tournaments, she just hasn't won whatever and wants her to win in a major. So it'll be interesting to see, but still a really good end to the major tournament. Another young winner on the LPJ tour, which is almost normal on that

PGA Tour Youth Movement Begins

SPEAKER_00 9:28

tour. What's not normal is the PJ Tour having young winners. It's been kind of I'm not gonna say an old man's game, but old man winners. But the last two weeks you have Jackson Coivan, 21, who wins the 3M open. And this week you had Michael Thor Bornsen, 24 years old, win the Rocket Classic by two strokes. And it's the first time in PG Tour this season that two winners under 24 years old have won back-to-back tournaments. So I think you're starting to see the shift. You saw Tom Kim pick up his fourth career win a couple of weeks ago. He's still only 24, which is wild to believe. So you got a trend of younger winners lately, which kind of happens towards this part of the season. The older veterans aren't playing as much. But Thor Bornsen, he shoots a final round 63 to capture his first tournament. And I think this is a guy that, like you mentioned with Gino, it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when. And he was a number one player on PG2 or U in 2024. He was a standout at Stanford, he had all the tools. In his last start as an amateur, I think he was in the Travelers Championship and he finished like fourth against a field that has a really good field. So really good for Thorborn Ornson. And I'm gonna go on the record and say put him on the presence cup team with Corgan. I'm all for the young guns being there in Medina in two months.

SPEAKER_01 10:43

Yeah, I know back in January when we did our beginning this year predictions, you had Michael Thorbenson being your kind of breakout star. And you know, we saw it earlier in the year at the Amex where he was in the final group with Scottie Chef, and he didn't get it done. Obviously, going against Scotty Chef were very hard to do. Many people don't win, most people do not win those, but it was a good experience for him. And all year was when is Michael Thorbinson going to win because he has been playing that well, and he finally got it done here, and it was it was a matter

Presidents Cup Debate About Selecting Young Stars

SPEAKER_01 11:12

of when. And he is so good. And I will talk about the President's Cup team. I I second this. I think that we should bring all of the young guys because I think that I, you know, I you know I hate a little bit I another more than most people, in fact, but I think that we don't need to take people like Xander Shafley because we know what they're gonna do, and you know, I don't know who other the the what they are right now. I think the auto-qualifiers thing like Ben Griffin is gonna qualify. I actually kind of like Ben Griffin, but yeah, well, you know how it it could be me over when I would say I would put myself over Wyndham Clark, and that's just personal, not golf talent ability. But but I don't I've but I'm all in favor of bringing Jackson Cliven and Michael Thorns in to Madina because they're young and they've we've seen what they can do in just their short time on the PGH where they both have wins in their first season. Jackson Cliven and four or five starts this year. So yeah, I you know, so it's ridiculous what these guys can do. And I think if we need to compete with the Europeans, because we've seen what they can do in the last two Rider Cups, they kind of kicked our butts the last two Ryder Cups. So it'd be it'd be nice to have some new faces and you know, young guys who can really bring it and you know change things up a little bit because we've seen what the Americans can do. Scotty Sheffer can't win the Ryder Cup for you. It's a team event. They have the young guys, they have the chemistry, they do everything right over there, and we're lacking something. So maybe these new guys can figure it out here at the President's Cup and then bring it over to the Ryder Cup, which we care a little bit more about.

SPEAKER_00 12:41

Yeah, I just I think one, the President's Cup, and I don't this isn't a reason to do it, but the President's Cup is usually lacking some juice because it's not the Ryder Cup. If you want to energize some, like get some people excited, like you bring some of these young guys, like I think Chris Goddard up, I'm looking at the rink, he's seventh. He's gotta go, he's gotta be on the team. Like, that's like if he's not what are we doing here? Now you get down to the lower, like Xander's number nine, he moved up because of his second place finish. Windham Clark's 10, JT's 11th, Bridgeman's 12. Like, I like Jacob Bridgeman, he's a good player. Does he have a future with the Ryder Cup team? Probably not. Whereas Thor Bornson and Coiven, 24, 21 years old, they probably do. They've competed on junior Ryder Cup teams and all that, and they're the young all-American standout and PGA to RU graduates. Like, I think it's time for the US to get the youth in and let and just insulate them with the JT, the Scotty, the the Cameron Young, the the Sam Burns, the the Ben Griffins. Like, let them play, let them do good. And then, you know, we may see it. I don't think this really ever happens, but like Colin Moore college just had his first child. Does he want to go play there in two months? Like, is he like, no, I'm gonna take a step back and I'll I'll play with my child. Sam Burns having his second kid. Does that open more spots up? Maybe I again this is me guessing. I don't know if that's gonna happen. I don't see many people pull out of contention for these teams because they want to be on him. But again, I think Michael Thorbornston is he was in the final pairing with Oberg. Now they both play terribly at the players' championship in that final pairing, and Cam Young ends up winning. But he's been in final groups, he finished third at the Phoenix Open, I think seventh at the Amex, like you mentioned. It's just like, why not? What's the worst that can happen? You don't have to play him all the time. You play him here and there, you play him two or three matches, and that's it. At least he's used to the format. But I don't know. I will say this golf course looked a lot better after this restor renovation they did, and it stinks that they're not going back because it definitely played a lot different. I mean, Thor Bornsen did set the tournament scoring record, so I don't know how much it helped with the scoring, but I thought it played a little harder. I thought it was a little more fun to watch, at least. They could make it a lot more difficult.

SPEAKER_01 14:54

It's an August event, they'll make it soft and they'll they won't cut the grass as long, but yeah, that's what they want to see.

SPEAKER_00 15:00

I know you picked Tadeki last week, he T5, another top 10 finish, or back to back top five finishes at events. So good pick

Wyndham Championship and FedExCup Stakes

SPEAKER_00 15:08

by you. You know, the the talk this week is it's the final week of the season at the Windham Championship. So you have that the bubble, you want to be in the top 70 in the FedEx cut points. There are some interesting names at kind of that 70 to 80 range. I mean, we talked about Koy V, he's number 70 right now. He needs to at least make the cut and probably a top 30 finish to like secure that spot or just not move up. There are some interesting names that are close. Like Brooks Kepke is 86. He needs, I think it's a two-way tie for third or better, or two-way tie for fourth or better to play in the playoff event. It's been a disappointing summer for him. I know he's with drone, he's missed a cut, and all that. And you and I are both on the record, like we thought he was gonna win, and he just hasn't. He hasn't played his best golf. He finished T29 at the open championship. I think his best finish, if I remember, is like a T13, which is just okay for Brooks Kepka. Keegan Bradley, Jason Day, former major winners, they're 72 and 75th on the ranking, so they need good weeks. Tony Fina, he's made the fixed cut playoffs in all 11 seasons of his career. He's at 89th. He needs like a solo third to keep it up. So it's always an interesting storyline. You get some good winners. You have Cameron Young coming off his first career win last week, last year here, where he won by six. It just was I think he made the turn, if I remember right, and he had an eight-stroke lead. It's like, all right, can we just end the tournament now? So Tom Kim's won here in the past. Lucas Glover, Aaron Rye, you know, I'm all for Aaron Rye. I think he's great. He's be on the European Rider Cup here next year. Not someone I want to play against, but a good player. It's gonna be a good tournament, and there's a lot more pressure on this event than a normal PJ Tour event.

SPEAKER_01 16:53

Yeah, you know, the weeks come down, it's the last week before the Fedus Club playoffs, and it always has for it always brings good moments. There's guys who are grinding to get inside that top 70, you know, making cuts shot by shot, and it's they have the tracker going on, and it's very entertaining to watch at least on a Friday afternoon when the cut's coming down and guys need that, and then also on Sunday when it's like you know, a 30th place could mean a lot more than 31st, things like that. Like, not even like you know, winning the tournament, you just you know, each place mat matters for all these guys. And there's one guy I do want to talk about a little bit who is outside the cut, and that is Tony Final. I know Tony Finault, we've seen how we've seen how he's played. He played on the Ryder Cup team and whistling straits, I believe, that you know, that won the last time they beat the European. So Tony Finault has had some very good golf in his career, and he has not had a stuff this year, and he's kind of have he's kind of having a like a Jordan Speed Ricky Fowler signature event inflation going on because he has not really he has not played well this season by any means, and he's playing, he's getting into these signature events, and he's and they're with the no cuts and he's getting these points, but there's it's not really deserved, I would say. So if Tony Fino gets into the playoffs, like at this point, this one week speaking, yes, he deserves it because he's in 89th place and he play certainly played well enough to get into the playoffs with a top solo third or better. But at this point, right now, I think this is the problem with the we talked about this last year when Ricky Fowler was one of the last guys in because of the signature events. And if this happens again this year, this will be another point to talk about. I'm just kind of speculating right now what could happen, but uh I'm happy that this signature event thing is going away very soon, and we won't have this conversation anymore. But once again, it's gonna be very exciting to watch. Kind of I hate to you know, kind of hate on Tony Fino because he's a really nice guy, and I do like Tony Fino a lot. But this is both no hate on Tony Fina, just to clarify.

SPEAKER_00 18:44

I think I agree with you though. Like, you do see like again, we mentioned with speet and Ricky this year, and Finao like hasn't taken advantage of it like they did. Obviously, he's ranked 89th, so they were much further, they played better in there, but you know, he's one of the guys that always relied on his speed and distance, and kind of the rest of the PG tour is caught up. He's always been in a bad putter, I'll say, and like he wins when he has a good putting week, so that hasn't been there as much, but it'll be nice to not have to do deal with that once we get to 2028 and full field events and none of that and all that stuff now. It's a pretty good field for the last week. I mean, you have Cameron Young, Justin Thomas, Hadeki's playing his fourth week in a row, which is absolutely wild heading into the playoffs, but he's on a heater. He's two back-to-back top five. So I understand why he's playing because he's playing really well. You got Ben Griffin, Jackson Coivin, who finished T5 last year as an amateur, who needs, again, like I said, uh probably like a T top 30 finish to keep that 70th spot on the FedEx Cup so he can get into the playoffs. It's I almost went with your pick from last week with Hideki because he's playing so great and he makes tons of birdies. And at a Donald Ross course, you have to be accurate with your T's and T shots and irons, and that's Hideki. Except his driver hasn't been great this year, so that's where the hesitancy came from.

Previews & Picks: Wyndham Championship

SPEAKER_00 20:04

I'm gonna go with the a North Carolina native. You mentioned him, Ben Griffin. He went to the University of Chapel Hill. He's played this event four times. In those three of the times he's made the cut, he's gone fourth, T7, T11. He's played really well at this course. He hasn't really played as well as he did last year. Last year, he won three PGA tour events. This year he's not, he doesn't have any, but he's still 30th, I think, in the FedEx Cup rankings. So a good year. Not the year he was probably looking for, but I'm gonna go with Ben Griffin in his hometown state to get his first win of the year.

SPEAKER_01 20:35

Yeah, I was thinking about picking Hideki again because he is probably the best player in this field, maybe Cameron Young. But in he is certainly in form and be hard to pick against Hideki this week without you know guys like Scotty Scheffler or a Matt Fitzpatrick or Rory in the field. But I'm actually gonna go with a guy who a couple weeks ago I was very skeptical, and I'm now a believer, and he's also younger than me, but I'm gonna go with Jackson Cloiven. I think that not only will he get that top 30, he will win the his their his second PGA tour event in three weeks, which is a very bold claim, but he is certainly talented enough to do it. He is so good at golf, and I think he's gonna show everyone what he can do with his with the last event in the regular season.

SPEAKER_00 21:17

If he goes out and wins, it's just like Brandt Seneca better get all of his sizings for the uniforms because he needs to be on that team, and that would be a crazy story. But he finished T5 last year, like I mentioned, so it's not that crazy of a thing. It's a Dallas Ross course, so you've got to be a really good putter. That's probably his best attribute of his game, is his putting in a short game. So I would not be crazy at all to see him win. But yeah, so that's the only event

Breakdown of Solheim Cup Teams

SPEAKER_00 21:43

this week. No LPGA tour event, no DP World Tour. But on the women's side of golf, we did have the European team announce their Solheim Cup team. They finalized it right after the AIG women's open. They had four captain's picks and eight team, eight automatic qualifiers. So I'm gonna go with the four captains picked. They went with three rookies and a veteran, and I love it. I absolutely love bringing in the young golfers into these types of events. So you have Julia Lopez Ramirez, Francis Natasia Nadu, England's Mimi Rhodes. All rookies, all getting their first taste at team event golf. You know, it's the second week in September down in the Netherlands. They're gonna join Leona McGuire as the other captains pick on this team. And then you have, you know, veterans on this team as well. You have Charlie Hall, Maja Stark, Lynn Grant, Celine Boutier, all veterans on this team. Lottie Wode, who's gonna be in there as well. You have Esther Henselite who just finished second. I think it's gonna be a really interesting event. The US team hasn't announced their teams yet. They will not do that till in about a month or so. There are three automatic qualifiers for the U.S. team. Nellie Corda, who's been qualified for I feel like Angel Yin and Jennifer Cutcho did get their solid spots or they're solidified their spots after their performances at the AG Wim's open. So there's nine more golfers to be chosen. The captain for the US team, they have three captain's picks, not four. I don't understand why it's different. I don't get why each team doesn't have the same amount of captains pick, but whatever. They do their point qualification systems different just based on the different tours they play. So that's exciting. It's gonna be a good event. Again, two team events this year, always fun. I know we'll watch that and then we'll get to the presence cup on the the men's side later. But I'm just again, we've said it just this episode. We want the younger guys on those teams. So Europe bringing three rookies. I love that choice by their captain.

SPEAKER_01 23:43

Yeah, the you know, the European Solheim Cup team, it's pretty scary from a US perspective, honestly. You have the big names, you've got Charlie Hall, uh, you've got Lottie Woe, you've got those big names, and then you have the rookies who are uber talented. We've seen what they can do. Mimi Rhodes won two or three times on the European tour, it's her rookie season on the LPJ Twitter season, and she is very good. And I don't know if she hasn't had the season she might be expecting, but she is very good, and you've got major winners, all that, and the European team. And you look at the US team, the standings right now, and you have Nelly Corda, obviously, the scariest, you know, scariest player in women's golf, or even the world, not even just women's golf, just in the world right now. And then you've got like you know, you've got some other players, Jennifer Cupcho, but no one really like the big names almost like no offense, but no one like the Charlie Hole or the Lottie Wode on the European team that the US just has Lottie Nelly Corta, and it'll be interesting to see who they pick for and who auto-qualifies for the US team. But this US team won, you know, two years ago in our RTJ over the the European team. So who knows what'll happen this in this year. And with the team that he with the team that that Europe has this year, it's you know, it's looking pretty like a pretty tall task, especially when they were playing in Europe in the Netherlands this year. So it'll be it'll be a very exciting month to see who's gonna be on the team, who's not gonna be on the team, what other names do we know, things like that. And yeah, we'll just have to wait and see.

SPEAKER_00 25:06

Yeah, I'm I'm excited for it. I love the team golf and alternate shot and basketball and all that. Little quick thing as we

Men’s Tour News: The Sentry and LIV’s Financial Trouble

SPEAKER_00 25:13

wrap up on the PJ tour, Century Insurance has become a title sponsor for the event at Tory Pine. So in 2027, it's just gonna be a full field regular event. In 2028, when they switch the kind of the two-tier system, it will be one of the championship series events. So, you know, the century used to be played in Hawaii, they're not playing there anymore. The farmers insurance kind of dropped their sponsorship of a PJ Tour event, so Century took it, and it'll be probably one of the first events on the season next year and in 2028 as well. And then Liv, there was some news that came out just recently today, and I know there was a players' meeting at Trump Bedmeester where Liv is playing, that they're pretty much going bankrupt and they're gonna file for bankruptcy soon. And I think the most wild thing is that a lot of these golfers were paid up front and then they get like quarterly salaries, is what I'm reading. The big one is John Rom, who signed for I don't remember the amount of it was like rumored 300 million. He still owed 150 million dollars. I don't know what happens. I don't know a financial person, I don't know how he gets paid if they file for bankruptcy and they fold, but there are rumors that regular season finale tournament isn't gonna be played. There is also a rumor that one of their other tournaments, remaining play, is gonna be moved to a different. So, for all intents and purposes, I don't want to say live is dead because it's not dead until it's dead, but it's not going great over there. And I know the players' meeting only is happening today, so we'll probably find out more later in this week from that meeting, so we can talk about it more next week. But yeah, I don't know how Rom gets that 150 million back in his pocket if they do fold. And again, it's this is the decisions these guys made. So I don't want to say I don't feel bad for them. Maybe I'm a bad person for saying that, but like not at all. You made the choice, you knew what could happen. Sorry, you made 150 million dollars, so if you really need that 150 million dollars extra, like you should have done a better job with your contract. I don't know, but it that's kind of the big news with the live right now.

SPEAKER_01 27:14

Yeah, I think live. I know we've been speculating on this for weeks and months now, and with all everything coming out, I just with two things. There's two things I want to talk about. Is the first is Liv not the rumors of Liv not paying their players. You are the Saudi Arabian public investment fund, you print money every single day. There is a gold mine under your country. I don't know how you don't have the money to pay the players when you are actually living on infinite money. So that's not for number one. I don't know how that happens. That's inexcusable from a business perspective and just you know running the cut like golf thing who wanted to rival the PGA tour and you can't pay your players. So that's ridiculous, number one. And then number two is the players only meeting, you know, the saying that I like to follow along on sports is when you have a players-only meeting in the locker room, it's over, your season's already done. So whenever you see that from like a team, like like the Mets, sorry, I'll throw out the Mets, but Mets fans will actually agree on you on this one. They stink. But like if the Mets players-only meeting, you know, season's already done. So with Liv calling a players-only meeting, I just have to say by my old by my rule that I follow is that their season is done and live is done. I'm gonna even go that far. So, well, this is another one I say this all the time, but we are gonna have to wait and see for Liv, the players-only meeting, what's gonna happen? Because I don't think it looks great, it doesn't look good for Liv. They live, they have uh so much money, and there's there should be no reason for this this league to end because of money. But with all this going on, with all the drama it's causing, I just I think the writing is on the wall for Liv, and it's only a matter of time before they just cut it off.

SPEAKER_00 28:46

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