35. Redefining Fatherhood: Breaking Cycles and Leading with Purpose

In this episode of Dads Against the Narrative, host Jack Nofel is joined by Nate Feathers for a raw and deep dive into what it means to be a modern father. Together, they explore the complexities of breaking generational patterns and moving away from outdated, "narrative-driven" parenting.

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:02

What's up, guys? Welcome back to the Dads Against the Narrative Podcast, where we cut through all the noise, challenge the status quo, and talk real talk about life, family, and the world around us. I'm one of your hosts. You may know me as Dads Don't Babysit on Instagram. I'm Nate Feathers. I'm here with my co-host, the up-and-coming, rising, amazing, natural-born dad, Jag Nofeld, coming straight out of Mexico. Dude, I'm so I'm proud of what's going on with your uh with your socials. You're pretty much blown up everywhere. And if you're not following him, you're out of your fucking mind. So go follow him. Uh, we're glad you're with us. Be sure to hit that subscribe button on YouTube so you can stay up to date with what we're doing. Plus, you get to see our handsome faces, and we all know that that's really the most important thing. Um, you also can catch us up on uh Apple Podcasts, as long as I don't say thing app things Apple doesn't like. Uh, you can uh catch us on Spotify as well. So anywhere you find podcasts, or if you want to watch us on video YouTube, you can find us there. Be sure to like, subscribe, and share this with others. We do not, we don't have, we don't do anything other than just share the show. And I know that that's not just our thing, but share the show is how we get known and how we get all these all these comments, all these ideas in the ear holes of other fathers. And so we can wake them up, shake them up, and get them to becoming the best men, husbands, and fathers that they can be so they can be the best for their family and for the world around. So glad you guys are here with us today. Jack, good to see you, buddy.

SPEAKER_00 1:24

Good to see you, brother. Everything's going well down south here. Uh, about four months, bro, and we're gonna be leaving. It's crazy to think. It's crazy because I know like how fast that's gonna turn around and how much work there is to do. And yeah, I'm not ready to do that work.

SPEAKER_02 1:40

Dude, I hate moving. I mean, I've lived in the same house since 2016 and maybe late 2015. I I don't really want to like when I move the next time, I'm gonna be like, you're gonna bury me in the backyard of this one because I'm not moving again.

SPEAKER_00 1:53

Bro, since 2015, I have moved to Hawaii, to Washington, back to no Costa Rica, back to the States, to an RV, to Cancun, over here to the seven guys, yeah, bro, seven times.

SPEAKER_02 2:13

Yeah, and then even where you've been in Mexico, you moved yeah, you moved into the mountains. And you're going to are you gonna go to Guatemala?

SPEAKER_00 2:21

Guatemala, we're gonna probably go, we're gonna probably end up staying there for two months. Maybe a whole visa tour there.

SPEAKER_02 2:26

Gotcha. You're uh you're uh you're you're gonna be doing that RV style, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:31

No, we're taking our car. We're just taking we have a SUV, and that's we're gonna throw our we're gonna we have a I have this whole big pack for the top, yeah. Yeah, cover that up, I'll get that. The dog will sit in the backseat with the boys, and we'll have the trunk, and that's it, dude. That's what we'll live out of for like six.

SPEAKER_02 2:46

Holy shit. Wait, but you'll be staying places as you go, right?

SPEAKER_00 2:50

Yeah, yeah. Airbnbs, hotels.

SPEAKER_02 2:52

Um per our conversation about us, like my family just went to uh Atlanta, and uh I'm the kind of guy like I lived in Dayton. I told you this, but I lived in Dayton when uh I was a roofer. Um, I lived there for three weeks before I found a fifth-wheel trailer that I could sleep in and then shower at the local gym. Um I I lived in my truck, and my wife, that's so that's me, and I'm the guy that'll also like stay at a night's inn where you definitely know there's stuff on the floor that's moving and uh all that kind of stuff. Um, and my wife is like, oh no, no, no, we are staying at the nicer, nicest places. So when the whole family goes anywhere, obviously we stay where she likes, and uh we just we just went somewhere one night was like I swear to you, I think it was 400 bucks. And I wanted to, I was like, you gotta be kidding me. We just spent like uh two stupid amount amounts of money to it was it was an insane amount of money to to go for one night in Atlanta to go to the Georgia aquarium. It was badass. I was glad to go. It was all my fault because we could have just gone to Chattanooga to an aquarium there for spring break. And uh, and I went, I wanted to go see the whale shark, and and that was the whole draw. Met a dude from Texas that was there, they were wearing Ohio State gear, and that's that's where I'm from. So when I see that, I mean she had like the beads and the uh and the actual buckeyes on the beads, and I'm like, you're a big fan. Like, this is I was like, are you guys from there? And they're like, No, we're from Texas, and I was like, I gotta hear this story. And their uh their daughter swims, she got a full ride scholarship to swim at OSU. But uh, we're there, and I'm just like, yeah, I I um meeting them was was awesome, but it was like one of those things where I'm like, I I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to like get another job just to go do stuff because this was insane.

SPEAKER_00 4:40

Legit, bro, like how it's broken up into different compartments, and yeah, it's a pirate ship right there, and the pirate in the middle, like bro, it's legit, dude.

SPEAKER_02 4:49

It is it is legit, and I'm not kidding, like it was so cool to sit there and watch this whale shark. Like, that was the whole point I wanted to go, right? I could have seen pretty much everything else at the other one. We went and saw the dolphin show and they're jumping around and all this stuff, but sitting and watching the whale shark and in that exhibit, it's huge, and there's this big open area where you can sit and watch them. And I looked at uh Meg and I go, notice how there's no children screaming here, like no children were in there screaming, they were all mesmerized by the water and the movement of the animals. It was beautiful, and there was no kids in there freaking the fuck out. It was awesome.

unknown 5:28

Yeah, that's nice.

SPEAKER_02 5:29

My mini-man had fallen asleep. He was like folded over in half on me, but there's like no real way to sit. It's like a support for your back. And I don't know about you, dude, but I find myself always leaning back when they're up against you asleep because you're just trying to accommodate that. That's so not good for your lower back. So I'm like sitting there, like holding him like this and scrunching and moving, trying to keep him asleep while we're sitting in there. I'm enjoying it, but I'm also like, God, this does not feel good. I'm you know, whatever.

SPEAKER_00 5:55

Well, bro, that's a lot of money to spend and go to fucking Atlanta and the United States, like the United States. It's dude, it's so expensive there. It's fucking outrageous. Let's talk about that for a moment. Like, guys, let me just catch you up to like why I'm gone. It's because we decided when I got early retired from the military that all right, we're budgeting, and we looked at the budget. This is two and a half years ago, and we're like, dude, like we can't survive in the United States. We would have to go back to a nine to five grind. And don't get me wrong, my wife has two degrees, I have a degree, and that's not the problem. The problem was is we didn't want to plug back into the system. We just got a little freedom, and we tasted it for like three months, and we're like, dude, the whole family's together. I'm with my kids every day, I'm with my wife every day. Like, we love each other. I have like that. My wife's my best friend, and so yeah, it was just like uh awesome. All right, so what's our plan? And then we we took a trip to Portugal to see like some homeschooling and then went to a retreat.

SPEAKER_02 6:54

And wait, was that where you met Greg? Did you meet Greg there?

SPEAKER_00 6:58

No, no, no, no. Uh-uh. I met Greg through the summit.

SPEAKER_02 7:01

Oh, okay. I I I thought that's where you met him because I know they're they've spent a lot of time in Portugal.

SPEAKER_00 7:05

Yeah, Alex went and visited him when he was there. And um, we can't we met some in Portugal, and they're like, Oh, why don't you go to Mexico, Puerto Morelos? And we just started looking it up and we're like brainstorming, right? And now manifesting and just brainstorming, manifesting, not even thinking. And then uh my wife got pregnant, and she's like, Let's go, let's go get a psychic passport, let's let's actually use our money the right way. Let's and so she was the one who's just like, let's go and let's go in eight weeks. And I was I'm not that kind of guy where I'm just like, All right, let's go and like not plan it. I have to plan everything. And um I'm like, why don't we just wait till after spring? We save up a little more money, we pay this off, and then we're good. And she's like, No, if you do that, you won't stay, or you won't leave. I'm and so sure enough, bro, it was like eight weeks later, we were gone, and then we had the baby in fucking Mexico, so he's Mexican res uh citizen, and then we're permanent residents now, and our pay goes way further down here, and it's getting expensive down here too, not not as expensive as the United States, but like when we came back there in April, bro, last April I met, I can't believe it's a year now. Um it was just like, what the fuck? You guys are paying for what here? What are you doing here? Like, my one friend's living like in the ghetto and shit, and it's like, bro, it's like two thousand dollars. I'm like, here, yeah, what are you doing? Like, why is it so expensive to survive or live now? It's like they've made it so difficult that you can't question the system, you have to just keep fucking digging deep, digging deep, digging deep, and never slowing down. It's so crazy that this is it.

SPEAKER_02 8:52

So true, man. Like, I mean, we paid, and here's what I know. I remember this being in Costa Rica, and uh, you know, I've been to I've been to uh Peru and Dominican. You pay for gas, you probably still do there too. You pay per liter in in those countries. So just to get an idea, a liter is about a quart. And so you have four liters almost in a gallon. So in the United States, when we're paying, you know, three dollars a gallon, and that's how we run it, you're paying for that's that's 12 liters. Or yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, yeah, that's that's it's four, it's four liters. My bad, my four liters. I don't know why I said three dollars a gallon. You're paying, you're paying like for four liters. But when you do the math, some countries, I don't know what it's like for you now, but I remember when I did the math, when I was in Peru, I think in the United States, we were paying like a dollar fifty a gallon, maybe a dollar. It wasn't a lot. I remember when I first started driving, it was 89 cents, and that feels like you know, it feels like the 1950s to talk about that. But um, but at the same time, we were paying like let's just say it was like a dollar a gallon. You go down there, you were paying a dollar per liter, and so you were ended up paying four dollars a gallon. So I don't know what it is like for you guys right there now, but I know you're paying that for every one we get, you're you're we're getting four of what you're doing.

SPEAKER_00 10:08

Yeah, no, it's definitely gas is more expensive overseas. Even when I lived in Germany, bro, it was like that was the first time I messed with the liters. I was like, oh my god, dude, you guys are paying like six, seven dollars a liter. Yeah, a gallon. Yeah, and um, yeah, that was crazy for me. And Mexico, it's it's it equals out pretty much in Mexico. Um, it's gas is I mean, they have gas there, so it's not like a big deal, you know. And uh here it's one of those things where I built my car, the SU my SUV, it could cost right around 800 to 900 pesos on a heavy day, so anywhere from 40 to 50 dollars.

SPEAKER_02 10:45

Yeah, so just to translate that, we got gas. I had about a quarter of a tank last night, and I got gas in Dalton, Georgia on our way back into Nashville, and it cost us$70 um because it was four dollars a gallon. And my wife was like, fuck this shit. She's so cool and calm, and then you know, stuff like that happens.

SPEAKER_00 11:06

She's like, fuck everybody. I mean, bro, I'm not sure if you guys out there have seen, but you know, like we're bombing fucking the biggest oil rigs and oil fields in the world, and that was supposed to be, did you know, like there was an agreement for this war that Israel and the United States would not bomb those because it's like that has nothing to do almost with Iran, it has almost everything to do with Qatar and Dubai.

SPEAKER_02 11:28

Yeah, and what's crazy to me is uh there's two things on that. I'm like, one, we don't get our oil from Iran, right? Because we've had sanctions on them and all that stuff, and then two, all the oil, all the gas that's in the pumps right now was already pulled out and refined, like it's already been paid for. So you got Chevron and BP just jacking prices up at the moment on gas that's already been paid for for us to pay more for it. I'm just like, ah, so frustrating. And I was talking to Zeke today, I'm like, dude, I was like, you know that means, right? And he's like, what? And I'm like, well, that means that transportation goes up, which is means which means that every good and service that you're gonna do is gonna go up. The fact that you know what I do doing even over like Christmas lights or lights or whatever I'm doing, if I gotta pay more in gas, I gotta charge more to the end user. So everything that anybody buys goes up, and it's just it's out of control. And honestly, more often than not, I'm just like, oh, this is we gotta plan it. We gotta plan this so that we can constrict those everywhere else.

SPEAKER_00 12:34

Yeah, bro. And the crazy part, the crazy part is last time that fuel had a problem, it lasted like 24 hours and it hit the market at 15. Like it was a fucking divot, bro, and it jacked all the oil to like 110 a barrel. I went, I'm not crazy to say a barrel's might go to 200, but 300. I mean, like if it's really as bad as they're saying it is, which this is the problem right now, is like AI is out, there's so many fucking fake videos, there's so many old footage. Not in Yahoo, is he dead? Is he not dead? Nobody knows that shit. And it's like, so we'll talk about that in a minute, too. It's like all this is like it's a such a weird, random war. Like, what videos are real, what's hitting what, who's actually dead? It's it that's so like the political world right now, full of muddy water that you can't figure out the actual truth. And you're like, what's going on? Why are we in Iran? Why is the United States even over there? Soldiers are speaking out in troves, like they're just coming out with like, no, I'm not going, I'm not going, I'm not going. Soldiers, tons of them are speaking out. There's colonels speaking out, a general spoke out, an admiral spoke out in the Navy, and it's like, so what is going on? Is Trump not reading the temperature? Is he just controlled so much that he's not allowed to control it? Or I'm gonna try to go back and forth here, guys. I do try to pay attention to both sides, or is he the master tactician and he is playing the game perfect because now China gave in, got rid of BRICS, right? And they the whole thing they've been working on, and it's like they they got kind of swallowed up because we took on Iran and Venezuela at the same time, and so we kind of um linch pinned them, and then it's like Russia looks like they may give in, and then what happens? So it's now it's like us versus Iran, we have to win, and the outcome is BRICS or the United States dollar for petrodollar. I like, is that what we're fighting for now? Like, I don't know what is really going on, or if like make Trump is taking a route around that I I hope this is true. I really hope like Trump's doing this whole backwards tactical way that none of us see, and we all think he's evil, and he turns out to be like a genius. I would love that. It just doesn't seem that way. It doesn't seem that way at all to me.

SPEAKER_02 14:51

Thank dude, I feel that I feel that in my bones. Like, there's I was just saying it like I must have been saying it out loud today when I was working out. I was listening to I was listening to Real AF. That's with Andy Frisella. And if you guys don't know, you gotta hit listen to that podcast. But I was listening to that, and they're talking about all of this, and I was just like, you know, like either this is like the biggest game of chess. That's what everybody wants to say, or it's just more the same shit. And I gotta say, I wonder to myself if it just makes everybody like guys like me and you, it makes me really just be like, I have got to find a way to be off grid completely. And then I just live my life and then like raise my family, and then and then I get to die without having to deal with it. Like honestly, it keeps going back to that. And there's a big, huge part of me that's like, yeah, just just do it, just buy some guns, some more guns, and and uh and just like keep track of your little spot of land and just check out, right? And then there's that other part of me that's just like, no, man, like the rest of the world's gotta hear this, gotta know this. You know, that's the whole reason conspiracy theorists ever started saying stuff, is they're like, no, this isn't right. And they're trying to call the truth out. When while you're trying to call the truth out, you've got guys going, ah, they're crazy. Listen to what they're saying, that's insane, you know? And you have this going on for hundreds of years now, really, if not longer.

SPEAKER_01 16:13

For sure.

SPEAKER_02 16:13

It's just like I hope for it. And I was telling, I was saying this today, that was the word my head was, is that I was saying this today. I remember when people when when Trump lost in 2020, and people were like, Oh, this is part of the plan, right? Like Q. I remember Q, and it's like, this is part of the plan. He he he's running the military, and I was just like, Yeah, I don't I don't think that's the case. I want that hope. Um, but I mean, how many times do you hear people say no one's coming to save you?

SPEAKER_00 16:43

I mean, it's the truth, right? And and that and that's the thing, maybe that's like a whole opt of the CIA itself is to put out the fake information like Trump's doing this backwards plan, and Trump maybe that's why he wrote the book years ago. They already knew all this was coming. Like they are they're planning a hundred years at a time, centuries. They're not fucking planning for like five years down the road, which most individuals don't even make a plan or plan even a year ahead. Most are like so lazy they don't make a year plan or like a goal or anything, and so it's just like dude, you're easily tricked, you're easily fucking manipulated in that sense. So it's like and we know that you're so lazy that you won't research both sides because then you might be able to make your own judgment and use some critical thinking to come up with what could be true or what could be false. Yeah, like yeah, dude, it's it's wild right now. I mean, to be quite honest, I yeah, I am so grateful I live in fucking Mexico. Like, I am so grateful. I'm I just think, dude, if I lived in the United States, I would have so much more like tension, just I wouldn't feel as grounded. I'd feel like there'd be tension there because like what the fuck is going on? Do I have to where am I gonna take my kids? Can I take them? Like that gets par that gets to like the paranoia level. I would probably be that way because like I'm that type of person. Instead, I'm in Mexico where we're like we're heading more south. I'm like, I told my wife, I'm like, you know what? Because we're going to Guatemala, right? For a couple months, and um we're gonna stay then in southern Mexico. I'm like, I think we should just plan to live in southern Mexico so we stay further away from the continental United States. So those borders and everything that's happening in the United States seems to be just like something's coming. We're all saying something's coming. What that's gonna be, who knows? But like that's wild. And did you see that? Uh what's his name? Who bought the Twin Towers, went and got insurance, uh terrorist insurance in LA on a uh LA building.

SPEAKER_02 18:49

Dude, I saw that. I saw that on your reel, and I was like, gotta be fucking kidding me. Like, I was like, okay. Everyone that's in their 40s should should know this already that he did the same thing not long before the Twin Towers fell, and he got it on specific terrorist attacks. He got double because it was two separate claims instead of one, right? Because it was each one building, one plane per building. Like all the things are lining up, and you're like, like everyone our age should be like that. You know that meme where uh Leonardo Cavri goes like, whoa, whoa, right there. That's what I feel like with that. I'm just like, oh god, are you kidding me? So the next thing is LA. Oh, okay. So give it a couple weeks, we'll see something go crazy pop off in LA.

SPEAKER_00 19:32

I mean, and then you have Ohio, you have these fucking random comments, comments, comments, comments, god messing that word all up. I don't know why.

SPEAKER_02 19:40

No N. Comments.

SPEAKER_00 19:44

Anyway, do you see this shit? It's like right away. My conspiracy brain is like, Project Bluebeam, Project Bluebeam, like these motherfuckers, it's coming. Like, Project Boob Bluebeam kind of like has like the precipice is an alien invasion that they are able to control. So, how do you think they're gonna do that? They're gonna do that with lasers and drones. I mean, it's gonna be out of control, and people are gonna think it's real aliens, people are gonna get killed, and it's gonna be wild. Like, if it goes the way that conspiracy theorists have been calling it for now a few years, that that's coming. Yeah, so Project is at the start of it, yeah, right.

SPEAKER_02 20:21

And you so you got that, they're moving all over, and we exactly in like random, crazy pattern. Yeah, there's no pattern to it, it's all random. Yeah, no doubt. Uh, and I think about like you've got LA, you've got that happening, you've got Ohio, you have what happened in Austin, just had like, and it's spring break right now, right? And so you talk about being like paranoid. It's spring break, you got um four different events that happened down in not events, but four different like happenstances that happened down in Florida where people are popping off guns, people getting shot um around uh around the beaches there. I'm like, okay, the first thing I thought when I heard that, I was like, here we go. Like, I mean, like, see if he's got some kind of Iranian t-shirt on again. Like, whatever that is, it's like we just are doing all sorts of things to feel out of our minds. And I mean, seriously, my kids only found out that I carry this past weekend, right? This past like these past two days. They saw me put it on. One of them saw me put it on, they're asking about it, and they call it my mini gun, which I think is hilarious. But they saw me with it, and they're like, so we get to the hotel and there's this sign, and Georgia is a is a constitutional carry state. Um I'm pretty sure for the most part, it's constitutional carry. So, really, if there's not a sign out front of a building that says you can't go in there with a gun, you can. And uh, so I have it on almost all the time. I keep it on me. I mean, if you see me, it's probably on me. You know what I mean? So we're driving, going through all the places. I mean, it is Atlanta, so you you know, you know that you've got to pay attention to it's a big city. It doesn't matter that it's Atlanta, it's just that it's a big city. So I brought that. We get there, and there's this sign of my little my daughter Luna Gray. She's like, Dad. Are you wearing it? And I was like, how about we not talk about it right now? Because I'm not supposed to have it. And I didn't know that. So now I know, but it's on me and we have all this stuff. So let's just get inside and I'll take care of it from there. Right. So I we go in and we and I, you know, I follow the rules. But I looked at them and I said, you know, think about this. If you're a criminal, do you care that it says don't bring a gun? And they were like, no. And I'm like, yeah, exactly. So the what the places I need it the most are the places that have those signs that say don't carry this. And if I want to follow the law, I gotta not have it. And it's like I feel paranoid because I'm always like, well, no matter where I go, I literally am strapped in my house. Because if somebody comes to the door, I just want to be, I like that's that makes me feel insane. Yeah, I feel crazy as hell. My wife probably feels like I'm crazy. She's not a fan of guns, anyways. So she's like, I'm not a I'm not a big fan of this, but she also understands that I know that if I gotta go to the door, that's uh if I have to handle that, that's I want to have it on me, you know, and you feel crazy.

SPEAKER_00 23:05

I don't know if your Ruger 22 that you carry on you is gonna work.

SPEAKER_02 23:08

Well, it's a it's a 380, but it's but it's only six shots. It's a 20 only six shots, it's not like that's what I mean. They call it the minigun.

SPEAKER_00 23:15

They're like, Yeah, mini gun. I mean a 380 is small.

SPEAKER_02 23:19

Yeah, exactly. Well, I'll fire six shots. I'll I'll empty the the clip into one guy, but if there's more than one guy, it's gonna take the whole, it's gonna take all six shots. I almost bought the nine, and I I will go. I I actually told Meg, I was like, you know, when you feel comfortable having this in your purse, I'll probably give her that, and then I'll carry something else.

SPEAKER_00 23:37

Get her 22, man. 22s are sweet, they shoot so easy, it's like not even there's like no kick. It's ding, ding, ding, ding.

SPEAKER_02 23:44

Well, I shot the I shot it the other day, and I was like, wow, there really is no kick. I didn't feel there was much kick on the 380.

SPEAKER_00 23:50

No, there's not much on it to be 80.

SPEAKER_02 23:51

I mean, but here's what I'll say I was really glad, I was really proud of how loud it is. I mean, if that thing, if you're firing that thing, people are gonna notice, they're gonna be like, oh, what's what's something's going down because it is loud, it was loud.

SPEAKER_00 24:06

I mean, that's part of the shock, right? Anyway, guns just for the loudness, it's supposed to rattle people, mess them up, and throw them off their game. I mean, that's why the military retrain in those scenarios so that way you get used to it and it's yeah, muscle memory. It's like, oh, yeah, I hear fire, okay, get cover, conceal, right? Get down. Yeah, and um, yeah, that that that that's just wild, man. And I remember in 2021, 2022, when I was still living in the States, I had my fucking little six hour nine on me everywhere. I never I never purchased a firearm license because it's against our constitution. My constitutional rights say that I can carry my gun on me anywhere in the continental United States, actually. And that's my right. So, like when they added all these like licenses to states, like that's that's all illegal paperwork, and it's it shouldn't be like a real thing, it's just like usury shouldn't be existing in the banks. You know, it's like fuck, man. Everyone does they turn.

SPEAKER_02 25:05

Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. You got like so Tennessee and and Georgia, there's a few. Uh, I want to say there's I was just looking this up because I obviously, if you're traveling, you want to know what you're doing. You want to know, like if you're if I go into New York, like me having a piece on me is totally different than somewhere in Tennessee, right? In Tennessee, you can literally walk around like the old, like I just think about the wild wild west. You just have it on your hip, you know, people can see it everywhere. Um, you can keep you can conceal it. They switched over in 22 to a to a like constitutional carry state, which basically got rid of any permitting whatsoever. So you just you when you buy a gun, you get the background check, and as long as that comes back clean, you get the gun that day. Like when you buy it from a store, you you'll get it that day. Um which is nice because you don't have the the like I know there's plenty of people out there that'd be like, you gotta have a grace period, like what in the world? But I like I went in, bought the gun, and walked out with it within I think a half hour. But that said, you can take it anywhere. And and with the constitutional carry state like Tennessee, as long as it's not federal buildings, state buildings, all the buildings you'd be like, I probably need one here in case something goes down, those are the places you can't carry it. But um, you know, like and if the if there's signs on the on the door that say you can't carry here, and then I would say, like, for a lot of people, if you're if you're doing that, which is what I do, like church, there's usually churches don't have those unless they're extremely liberal churches, and then I'm questioning why they're even churches at that point, but that's a whole other conversation. Um, but uh, like at my like the church we go to, if I were to walk in there, I just go to the the sheriff and be like, hey, I'm a friendly, right? Like I'm the guy I'm I carry everywhere I go. It's to keep track of my like keep my family safe. Um, that way they know if anything were to go down and someone else is shooting at somebody coming in, they know that they've got a friendly in the building. So there's some there's a lot of churches are are like that here. Um, my uncle carries his on his hip, like out. It's he's he is an open carry. Um, so you can do that. You just have to really know because that's not the way it works in like California and Illinois and and a lot of places that have stricter gun laws.

SPEAKER_00 27:15

The liberal states, bro, are really strict. I mean, I I bought a gun in Seattle, and I had to have what was it, 14 or 20-day fucking tracing? Oh, dude, it was a long time. It was almost a month. It was like I'm like, what the fuck? That was my sixth hour. I was still I was living in Seattle, and I'm like, dude, I really wanted the sixth hour. I had just shot it with my buddy, and I'm like, this is the best nine mil I've ever shot. Just because it hit my the grip, it was perfect. Like it was I couldn't make it. Huh?

SPEAKER_02 27:47

Is that the 365 X?

SPEAKER_00 27:48

Yep. I I had that X, yeah. So like that was yeah, that grip was great, man. I loved it. And I hated nine mills. I sucked at shooting them forever. The whole time in the military, like, not everyone gets a pistol, only officers do. So I sucked, and so then when I became officer and I got pistol, I'm like, I asked my soldiers, I'd like, dude, can you teach me how to shoot this pistol properly? You know, like I fucking sucked. And then my then I joined a like a pistol shooting club in Seattle in like Olympia, Washington, and I would just go, I would go, dude, like after work just for 20 minutes sometimes, lay down 100, 200 rounds, and just take off. And it was like that was a pretty cool thing. It was like 40 bucks a month to be a member there, but it was indoors, and so it's raining all season long, pretty much in Washington. So, dude, that was great, but that's not the kind of state you want to live in. Like, that's that's the freedom, that's the country of freedom, and and free everything, where you are the most freedom. I'm fighting for your freedom, everything's freedom. And I, you know, I believe I never believed that bullshit, anyways. Even when I joined the military, and people are like, Thank God, and thank you for our freedom. And it's like, I've been a lot all over the world, like they have the exact same rights as we do, even fucking China does. Like, what are you talking about? Like, what freedom? Yeah, more taxation and you know, more fucking fees and more fucking control. And and then they and then the weird part with like the United States, as I'm making these new reels and I'm like digging into stuff, it's like dude, they they talk about China being the surveillance state, but America has way more surveillance. I mean, when you look at actually Andy Frisella just had someone on the show that talked about the Patriot Act and how each uh cycle or presidency they keep changing it a little bit more, a little bit more, and now it's like has the whole like surveillance state everywhere, even on your Wi-Fi router. Like the United States is the surveillance country of the world, it's not China, it's not these other ones that people think it is, it's the United States, and it's like you guys all thought that was China because that's what we were programmed to think. It was right in the United States, it was right here at home. Like, dude, it's it's just clear as day. And you know, like you'll hear, especially here. I'll have my friends who are Mexican, they've only lived in Mexico, and they're like, dude, what's happened in the United States? I'm like, exactly, what has happened? Like, I'm not going back to that. I think I'm here, I'm not going back to that bitch.

SPEAKER_02 30:12

Yeah, it's crazy. I like I'm with you though. Uh like the Second Amendment was there to not be it says it shall not be infringed. That whole deal was specifically to protect yourself, your family, your property, and and and keep the government at like understanding that, like, hey, if you if you go, if you go rogue or you go tyrannical, we're we're taking it back, and we're gonna do it, like our job is to do it all over again. I'm with you, man. Like, I think it's only like 10 states that are constitutional carry states, and the rest of them have these like different infringements that shouldn't be on. I know that right now I've been watching this a little bit, and I think it's I want to say it's in July of this year. There should be a decision made by the Supreme Court that should open that up a lot more, uh, so that there's a lot more constitutional carry states because they're coming to they're basically saying that like so what was happening was like uh I think this one happened in New York, and I can't remember what it was. I can't remember the name, you know, like it's like Barone or something like that, people versus Barone. But it was basically so they opened up the concealed carry, and then they were like, but you can't carry them into, and then they started naming all these places to basically like okay, you've got concealed carry, but you can't carry it into anywhere. So you can walk on the sidewalk, but and your house, but like if you have it on you, and then you walk into a building of any kind, well, now you're illegal, right? That's the problem with the that law, and so they switched it to where they're like, Yeah, you can't you can't basically say no guns and then switch it to be like, all right, well, you can have a gun, but you can't carry it into anywhere, you know, and like so they made all these rules to cover their ass on that. So that one got overturned, and now they're working on another one that came up that basically should make it so that all the laws in the states will allow it to be back to where it should be, which is uninfringed because you should be able to carry. I mean, honestly, in in Tennessee, I don't think I would do this. If I was doing this, I was I feel like I'd just be being an asshole. But like you can walk around with an AR on, but I can tell you right now, even in a constitutional Kerry State, if you have an AR strapped to your back, people are on extreme edge, right? They're like, what is that guy doing? So even if you're walking around constitutionally, like, oh what? I'm allowed, you are probably gonna cause a lot of people to be freaked out. And I think that that's been the game, that's been what they've tried to do.

SPEAKER_00 32:37

Yeah, I mean, Latin America, so many people come here and they'll be like, I was on the beach and then the army came. I'm like, the National Guard, you mean? It's literally says National Guard. It's the very it's like the exact same words, like the Nazi L Guard. They help the state police. Yes, if you know anything, just like the Americas, it's the same deal, it's just here they patrol. And then people people be like, Oh, it's scary. I'm like, what's scary about it? They're making sure you are you're safe as a tourist, like tourists are almost untouched in Mexico. It's like it's very difficult unless you put yourself in a real shitty situation, yeah. Which sometimes people do, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:15

You know, did you this is what I noticed, and and this because you were in Costa Rica after being in the military, right? Yeah, so it probably didn't affect you as much. Like, I can't I literally came to Costa Rica out of college, where I studied ministry, so it was like very sheltered to a very high level. My dad didn't like guns, so I had never been around guns. So I go to the bank the first the first time to go to the bank, that's right down the street from the school that we were going to, and I and I walk up, and there's a dude with a full-on automatic machine gun standing outside the door, and I was like, Oh shit, what's going on here? And that his job is to stand there and protect the bank, right? But when I was walking up, I'm like, dude, this guy's full auto, like, what is going on? And then I walk in, there's another one standing inside the door, and I was like, what the hell happens here? Like, what is going on? But the truth is now that I like as a 20-year-old, very sheltered from guns kind of kid, I was terrified. I was like, Well, I'm gonna not cause a scene, right? I'm not gonna cause any problems with this dude. But that's the whole point. Is like, hey, if you roll up on a bank and you try to pull some shit, you're gonna get shot. I wish it was that way here now. I I wish that like I would I was just telling Zeke today, I was like, you know, one of the places you can't go when you can steal carry is a bank. They usually have the thing out on the on the thing, like, don't walk in here with a gun. However, if you're a criminal and you want to steal some money and you come into a bank, the first guy you shoot is the guy that's got the guy you know has the gun, who is the the security guard, who generally is a portly fellow that probably couldn't run 50 yards without passing out. But if you do conceal carry and you didn't listen to that, and you and that guy shoots the security guard, and then you shoot that guy. Guess who goes to jail? Me. I go to jail if I do that because I carried into the bank, even though kept the guy from doing anything else or hurting anyone else, and it was all supposed to be from my rights. So just like it's that whole thing like criminals are gonna be criminals, so they're not gonna follow the law. Hi, why do we have these laws? It's stupid because the second amendment does, in fact, give me the ability to walk around with it.

SPEAKER_00 35:23

The United States is so free you can't walk down the street holding a bug light in your hand, yeah. Like that's how fucking free you guys are. And anywhere else in the world, you can fucking an 18-year-old can have a beer and walk down the street anywhere in the world, except for the United States. So free and so much surveillance. It's like, I mean, if you're American, and I think like obviously people we know and like these higher-up guys who are really just great fathers, taking care of their families, like they're all in like in tune with it. They are like, yeah, and they know how to manipulate it. So that's the that's what we're saying. I'm not saying like be scared and be on fucking edge all the time. Understand what's going on, understand the world, understand your surroundings, and then make an actionable plan of like, hey, here's what we do 6G towers are turned on, move further away from the towers. We do this, don't be afraid to move. This is not the time and age to like just stay put. Like, I grew up in Cleveland, Ohio. I'm just gonna stay in Cleveland, Ohio forever. What? Why? I'm so glad I left Cleveland. Like, you couldn't pay me a$10 million a year to stay in Ohio. I just couldn't do it, especially after the places I've lived. No, no, no, no. I I'd rather live abundantly off the land than worry about money. You know what I mean? It's like that's where like you go anywhere else in the world and you see the people are connected to the land a little bit more. Like down here in Mexico specifically, it's like dude, fruit trees are in abundance. I mean, you go anywhere, they'll barter with you. You know, there's the barter system still exists in Latin America, so you see the people trading skills just like for that. I mean, me and you have talked about this before, you've done trades, but it's like that's common here. Yeah, United States, it's kind of disappeared because everyone needs money. And if you don't have money, you can't have like anything anymore.

SPEAKER_02 37:11

Yeah, it's crazy. And and that's the thing, is it's like I love I love that I'm from here. I tell my kids, I'm like, you hit the lottery being born here, but it's the government that pisses me the fuck off. You know what I mean? It's like that's the problem, is it's it's elites, and I always use air quotes for that because I'm like, you're not elite, you're not any better than the rest of us. You you just like you're in a different state, you're in a different part of how our government or how our our world or our country works. It doesn't make you any better, but they're in there doing nefarious shit, taking our tax dollars. Again, I keep coming back to this fraud and all the things that we that like they hide in plain sight. That shit, all that shit has to go. And and you can make this country be amazing. And I know that this is not a this is not a thought that I have alone. It's not like I mean, I hear it on real AF all the time. They're like, dude, personal excellence is the ultimate rebellion. They want you to sit down and eat a bunch of shitty food, and they want you to watch Netflix forever and get fat and be sick. You have to fight against all of those things to in order to do in order to do that. You have to fight against those things. And the men that like you and I, like connecting on this, connecting on uh the frequency of fatherhood when we did that, connecting on the platforms that are available to us through social and all that, which I'm not a major fan of social media, but it's something that's connected me to some of my best friends in the world now. And I mean, when I say that, I'm like guys across the pond, you Rob Rob Bill is like pretty much a brother to me. And I he and I have never been in the same exact room at the same time. But these like I have these kind of connections, so I love that. But it's like we have great stuff, we just have we have shitty leadership that we have to choose to get out, and I keep I it always comes back to this, right? If you if you if you plan wars and then you raise prices, you squeeze, you squeeze the people, and when you squeeze the people, everybody has to look at their own life and try to figure out how to survive. And instead of thriving, all we're doing is surviving. It just keeps coming back to that. Because if you can keep, in my opinion, if you can keep men with their head down trying to figure out how to make this little my little family work as opposed to looking up at all the bullshit they're pulling, then you can keep pulling bullshit because I've got to sit here and look down at it. And you're right.

SPEAKER_00 39:33

The problem is there's too many that are still like that. Like if they haven't woken up, like none of this shit in the last five months has even woken some of these people up. Like they're just still head down or fucking ostrich fucking with their head in the sand. And it's like, dude, what are you doing with yourself? Because right now they are on the plan for agenda 2030, and it's still going smoothly for them. This is exactly what they want. They only get a what 10% of the people are speaking up and saying no, enough's enough, or 10% of the people are the only ones that are saying, I'm not buying from that company, I'm not buying from that company, I'm gonna stop purchasing from Nestle, from Coca-Cola, from fucking on and on and on, like all these things. There's only about 10% of us, so they still have the consumers, and the consumers are consuming and they're not thriving, they're barely surviving. And so now it's like they don't want to look up and read anything because they could barely even afford next the next day, you know. I mean, it's like it's a crazy fucking time to live in. If you're thinking like there's no reason for humans to exist or blah blah blah, I think that's where like a lot of people are getting it, where it's like, you know, maybe there's just no god, and like well, maybe this is just how life is, and maybe it's just like no, it's not the fucking Hunger Games, and yes, there is a God, and yes, you are a powerful source that they have now tricked you into you having no godlike abilities because they've poisoned you from the air, from the fucking ether, from frequencies, from your injections, from water, from earth. Everything's just attacking you, and you're so discombobulated that your pineal gland is now calcified, and you can't fucking even connect to the source God's your source, you and me are the same. That's what Jesus said, that's what Buddha said, that's what Muhammad said, that's what they all fucking said. They all said the same thing. We are the same, we are all connected. Yeah, but you can't be connected if your pineal gland is calcified.

SPEAKER_02 41:37

Yeah, that's it's so funny. You're talking, and I'm going, yeah, the pineal gland. Like it's so funny, and you say 10, dude. I feel like my feet is full of it because of the people that I talk to, right? So my algorithm is is is quote unquote fucked up in a good way, it's fucked up towards what and I'm like, everybody knows this stuff already, and that's the hard part is that I'm sitting here going, dude, everybody has to know this. Yeah, and because everybody that I know knows this, and like I'm I'm hanging out with more and more people that are talking the same as me. I mean, dude, I I went to a land sale this past weekend, and the woman that was that was part of that that I that came in my car to like buy land, she and I started talking, and I'm like, holy shit, like she was talking about like she kept saying stuff, and then I'd finish what she was talking about, or she'd do the same because we were talking about so many conspiracy theories, quote unquote, that are true. And she's like, Yeah, you know, they're doing this, they're doing that. I'm like, oh my gosh, yes. And then I say that it's crazy because I'm not only drawing those people to me in the algorithm on Instagram, I'm drawing them to me in real life to a level where if you talk about manifestation, I she said this and I thought about it, I was like, oh my God, I hope that's not true. Is that if this is all bullshit, I keep drawing the same people to me. So you have to keep questioning everything. And it just keeps coming back to this whole idea of dads against the narrative saying, question everything, run it through, think about it, consider it, and make decisions that are based on that. Because you could be drawing, like I'm drawing all this stuff to me, but if that's all I'm drawing and that's all my algorithm is showing me, then what's the chance of me thinking, oh, well, I gotta keep talking? Because everybody already knows it. And like you just said, 10% of the people are speaking up. That's insanity to me. That's insanity.

SPEAKER_00 43:20

It's nothing. And like a big part of like they they want to put the blinders on, right? And keep you focused on that one area that is like your area. If you're a conspiracy, we'll put your whole feed and your algorithm to this. And if and if you are a far left liberal and we're gonna get your algorithm making you fear-based and saying that you're right. If you're vegan, it's gonna be all vegan stuff, and how veganism is the best thing in the world. If you're a carnivore, it's all gonna be carnivore. It's like, bro, they know that social media is over. It it's a hundred percent advertisement. It's like you don't see each other's stuff anymore unless like you go to people's pages. What people repost, and like what you're following, you see their posts. No, wait, the people you're following, you're seeing the people that follow them, their posts. And so the people you're following now, you're not even seeing them, you're seeing the people that what they like and what they repost. So if they can take this weird fucking algorithm going on right now, that's all advertisement and nothing to do with what I want, even though like I do, like my whole thing's full of conspiracies and fatherhood. Like that is me summarized, I guess. You know, it's it's just a weird, it's such fucking disconnecting times, man. It's just disconnecting times because I saw this article three to four percent of kids are getting outdoors more than an hour a day. Three to four percent. It's like 95% of kids, they're saying average less than an hour a day, and it was way less than that. It was actually less than 20 minutes a day.

SPEAKER_01 44:58

What?

SPEAKER_00 44:59

Yes, and it was crazy. I just posted it today, and dude, the study's insane, and it shows like the whole decline, and then like the whole thing, there's so much just going on that like if you're keeping your head in the sand and you're not questioning narratives, I mean, you're so wrong because look at the new guys or new new soon-to-be dads and moms, they're just gonna take their kid, they're gonna be scared a little bit because the kid's coming, mom's growing a baby inside of her, it's kind of alien-like, it's all fucking crazy. And they're just gonna listen to the doctor. But if you're questioning the fucking narrative right away, you're like, all right, I need to know what the doctor's job is, and I need to know what the doctor knows about the vaccines that they're gonna push on my baby. I need to know if I want my son to be circumcised, I need to know. So you need to look at what's gonna happen, backwards plan, and then say, is this good for my family? Is this the best decision and the healthiest decision for this baby? Especially when it comes to vaccines. Motherfuckers need to stop just taking them to the fucking machine to inoculate them and fuck them up for life. Like that's on the parents, and you there's enough information out there and enough in the CIA files and the Epstein files that show vaccines cause autism. Vaccines cause all the fucking problems, actually. Not just like neurological disorders, but all the problems stem from vaccines, and it's fucking crazy. People aren't waking up to it. So if you're not questioning the narrative, you're taking your kid there, inoculating them. Maybe mom can't produce breast milk because there's so many heavy metals and plastics and bullshit into our fucking system that's fucking her system up. So now she has to go to baby food, and now you don't question baby food or the heavy metals that are inside of that, or how the baby's gonna uh grow up with this kind of food instead of mom's milk, or even the attachment when skin to skin and mom being with them and present. So it's like then you just put them in the daycare and say you're still not fucking paying attention. I just want to shake your ass and say you're not trying to have a baby to go back to work, you're not trying to have a baby to go back to the exact same lifestyle, you're having a baby to grow a family and be a leader now. That the the life that you had before is gone, and the job, who the fuck cares about it? Go get a new one or don't go get one at all and stay with your kid. It's like when you question it, man, that's the only way you're going to be able to make these kinds of decisions. And I think that's the easiest way. The easiest analogy is like babies and stuff. Like, parents aren't questioning it.

SPEAKER_02 47:29

So true. And here's the deal: don't be afraid to start now. Because, like, I can tell you right now, okay. Uh, my older two kids, I just followed the I followed the narrative. I assumed that the people like here's the deal doctors aren't trying to be bad people. That's the thing. Because they're not like, oh, we got to push all the shit on you. They are taught shit. I mean, let's be real. The pharmaceutical company uh basically buys the college, pays for the books, does all the fake. So they write the books. So everything you learn, it's all programming. So if you're a doctor and you're learning this, you're you're you're totally gonna disagree with me and Jack right now. But that's because that's the programming you got, because everything you were you were you were boiled in the soup of pharmaceuticals, right? But when you think about this, I like perfect example. Zeke was born in 2004. Uh I was a new dad. I had no idea about anything. Um, so when they came in to give the shots and all the stuff, I just did it. Now, granted, we were in Costa Rica and it was 2004, so there was less stuff, but he has he'll pop like he has tuberculosis for all of his life because he has he got the shot because that's what they did in Costa Rica, right? I trusted the doctors. There's nothing wrong with trusting doctors, but now, like, so he got lots of shots, so did Amelia. Thank God that there were no adverse reactions that I know of that really caused major problems, like delays or anything like that. I tell Zeke all the time he's retarded, but that's that's because I dropped him, not because he no, I'm just kidding. Um, like I did like all those things, I followed the narrative. When Finla was born, we stayed a little bit further away from it, but you said stuff about uh circumcision. So Zeke was circumcised because I was circumcised, and I was like, Yeah, well, I mean, even if it's not a religious thing, uh one, I don't know what to do with that because I didn't grow up with it. And two, I want him to feel like he like he's not gonna look at me and be like, Well, what's wrong with me? Why do we look different, right? He sees so when Finlay was born, it was the same thing. I was like, I think we should circumcise him because and we did that, and honestly, it fucked up a lot of shit, in my opinion. Uh, it didn't fuck him fuck him up, but they would not let we were in a hospital, they would not let mama hold the baby unless he was nursing. That's bullshit, one, right? I couldn't hold him unless I was in the room. I couldn't hold him and walk around with him because they're insurance purposes. So he's in the room, and then he had to be under a billy light, which guess what? If you put him by the sun or mama nurses him right there in the sun, he'll get rid of the Billy Rubin, right? He'll he'll lose the jaundice. And uh, and then and her body would make the milk to do that, but they wouldn't let her do all that. So he's screaming after the circumcision, and she's like, I can't take it. I don't know what to do. They won't let me hold him, they won't let me do this. And she's in, and we didn't question a lot then, even. Even then, I feel like I was a weak dad. And so they gave him a pacifier. He's the only child that had a pacifier. The kid had like 15 pacifiers at some point in his in his bed. Right, he's the only one that had a pacifier of the younger of the younger four. And he's the only one that did not nurse because he couldn't figure out the difference between mom's nipple and the pacifier, but she gave him the pacifier to help soothe him in the in the hospital after the circumcision. With Wyatt, we didn't even fucking go to the hospital. We had we had him at home, she had him on the like on the bed. I caught him. He nursed, he nursed like instantaneously, kind of thing. Now we had struggles, but we held on to it, and he didn't take a pass by all these things. This is just me learning. So Wyatt's not circumcised, Killian's not circumcised, but Zeke and and and Finley are because I learned, and all of the younger kids, Finley down, never been vaccinated because we learned, and that's okay if you if you feel like you didn't know before, and now you do know some stuff, that's fine. All you do is apologize to the older ones for like, sorry, I didn't know shit, and then you move on, right? But learning and questioning is a requirement, and I think you probably do this too.

SPEAKER_00 51:28

You know, uh, as we were gonna get ready to wrap it up, yeah. Uh, I'm very similar. I I have my first son was born in the hospital under lights, and it was wild and crazy and traumatic a little bit, and circumcised, second baby. I caught him at home, pulled him out of mom actually at home, and he went right to the nipple, totally fine. The healthiest kid you'll ever see, stayed on the placenta for three days, did a lotus birth, and uh yeah, unbelievable, unbelievable. Like that's how it's supposed to be. But if they scare you enough to push you to the hospital, then they can charge you for even more. That epidural, very expensive, very fucking expensive is an epidural, very expensive is the doctor that's gonna just pull out the baby. I did it at home, it was the easiest fucking thing ever. I made sure the baby was happy, healthy, and I'm like, here, Bob, there you go, take care of your baby. You know naturally what to do. And yeah, if you're a father, like how many parents have you watched? I mean, and I'll speak for myself. I've watched it with many friends and family where they are the exact same parent for all three kids. The exact same parent. They haven't changed from baby one to baby three, but now they know everything about parenting because they had three kids, and you're like, what the fuck is going on here? Like, are you serious? You're the exact same person. You're fat at baby one, you're fat at baby three. You haven't changed your same eating habits, same shit food, same exact everything to the fucking T. And I had like me in between baby one and baby two. My difference, of course, like I had baby one, and I met guys like you all over the fucking world that just were giving me free chicken left and right. I'm like, I could be better, I'll be better, I could be better. Because you talk to that's why men and fathers need to talk, and parents need to talk. It's because it's like, what's working for you? Because every fucking kid is so different, they needed a parent to show up differently. And it's like baby one to two for me, is like I show up totally different for the second baby at the same stage that baby one was in. It's like, or kid one wasn't. It's like it's like, dude, not even the same, not even close to the same parenting skills, not close to the same parenting style, not close to the same mental. It's just like I'm such a different fucking dad. I'm so happy for baby two, like, and I'll tell you, I'll tell Dustin because like you're sorry, man. Me and my boys, me and my boys shower pretty much like I you know how it is with kids, you don't get a chance to shower alone. It's like it's so wild. Like, I you get five minutes and shower by yourself, you're like, Yes, this is the best thing. Yeah, right. And uh, so the boys now it's like and I thought the same thing. Oh, he has to look like me because his penis needs to look at my penis. That dude, they don't give a fuck. Like my son looks at my own, he looks at his brother's penis, he's like, Your penis looks different than mine. And I'm like, Yeah, because he guess knows he didn't get circumcised, and you did. He's like, Oh man, but mine looks like yours dead, and his doesn't, and I'm like, Yeah, it doesn't matter, none of that matters. And he's like, Yeah, I know it doesn't, it's helpful. It's like the kids know, like it doesn't none of that kids don't give a shit, man. They just need love, they need you to be present and show up. And with that being said, guys, thanks for being here. I know we ranted a lot today, and there's just a lot to rant about, and um, how we connect the dots, and then kind of that's what our rant shows are kind of about. It's about like how are we seeing how are we viewing the world right now, and what are we doing to you know protect our families and prepare our families and prepare ourselves mentally? So remember, when you're out there listening to us, this is all about preparation, this is all about seeing true, this is all about the future because we're done living in the past, these days are over, the all these systems are coming down. I mean, I don't see another way forward with these systems surviving. So uh the ones who are preparing are the ones who are going to be leading the way on the new world. That's what I truly believe. Um, I just don't see that you could continue put kicking the can down the road like this.

SPEAKER_02 55:27

Yeah, no, I totally agree.

SPEAKER_00 55:28

Yeah, thanks guys for being here. Nate, over to you, brother. And this was fun, like always, man. Always, every week. This is great.

SPEAKER_02 55:36

This is probably good cathartic for for me and you, right? Like, even if it's just us, it's fine. Uh no, I would say this, man. I I feel that I feel that. And I think that uh you said it when you're like, dude, this is not about having a baby and getting back to your old life. Uh and maybe, just maybe. I think that's very much for dads. Uh, but maybe, just maybe, that's uh a lot for moms too. And I think that in a in the relationship of man and wife, you guys have to figure out who's gonna work and who's not. A lot of times that's gonna fall to the guy, and the mama's gonna take care of the babies, especially in a certain situation. Not all of us get this cool situation, uh uh retiring from the military, like my boy Jack. But I will say this it's hard to do that, but I think it's worth it. Like we're a one-income family. That's all rests on me because the alternative is going, Meg going to work and basically us taking her money and paying somebody else to watch her kids. So some man pays her to do jobs for to do jobs that, and then she takes that money and pays somebody else to do the nurturing job, and they just the kids just get attached to her, so or get attached to that other person. So why not just cut that out and do that? Does it make it harder, quote unquote, on us? Yeah, it's not easy, and uh let's be real, that's how this whole conversation started, right? The Iran, whatever you want to call it, war, even though it's not been declared or whatever, but like the uh the whole conflict over there causes gas prices to rise, which causes food prices to rise, which causes everything, all prices to rise, makes it more constricting on us. But as men, we say, I can take that on, I can do more. If I'm physically fit, mentally fit, questioning the narrative, like learning and seeking truth, but also becoming the best version of myself. I can handle my own family on my shoulders so that my wife can do the role that she's best suited for, which is take care of the children, raise up the next generation. Feminists for so long have shot that, like, oh, that's a shitty thing to do. And then, and and then you have an Olympian who's like, I want to thank my nanny who, you know, like we we took care, she took care of my kids when I needed to be there. And I'm not trying to shit all over that. I'm just saying, now we're saying, oh, look, the caretaking is uh is a is a great thing, but as long as you're paying for it, it's just crazy to me. And my wife does a fantastic fucking job. They're all at the zoo right now. So my job is to do what it takes to bring in the income so that my kids can go see animals and hang out with friends and be with mom and be nurtured and all of that. And when we as men choose to be the best versions of ourselves, we look at the world and we go, I can pull that, I can do that. And even in the face of bullshit like what's going on in Iran and rising prices, we can go, fuck it, I'm gonna do this. And if I gotta strap down and and cut stuff off of our life so that we live a different way, fucking do it. Just fucking do it because it's so much, it's gonna be so much better for you, your wife, and your children in the long run. All of this is an investment in the future, it's not about us right now, and that's the whole point. It's an investment in the future. So invest in your future by investing in yourself and investing in your family.

SPEAKER_00 58:46

Let's go. Let's go. That's the way to end it. All right, guys. Take it easy.

SPEAKER_01 58:53

We'll see you guys.