36. Building Sovereign Communities: Why Good Men Must Lead Now

This episode of Dads Against the Narrative features hosts Nate Feathers and Jack Nofel reconnecting after a month-long hiatus. The conversation is centered on the current geopolitical climate, historical skepticism, and the importance of masculine leadership in the modern world.

Key Themes & Discussion Points
Censorship & Personal Accountability
* Jack shares a recent experience involving the loss of clients at his **Warrior Path** academy due to his public commentary on controversial topics.
* The hosts discuss the division caused by differing political and social beliefs, emphasizing that they differentiate between government actions and individual people.

Historical Skepticism & Alternative Narratives
* A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to questioning established historical events, including the Bolshevik Revolution, 9/11, and the sinking of the Titanic.
* They explore theories regarding the influence of a small, powerful group of global elites and their impact on historical records and modern systems.

Societal Control & Masculinity
* Nate and Jack discuss the "feminization" of modern institutions, including the church, and the systematic "pushing down" of men through media and cultural narratives.
* They argue that excessive taxation and government regulations are tools used to keep people, especially fathers, focused solely on survival rather than community leadership.

Building Parallel Systems
* The hosts advocate for **dis-schooling**, physical discipline, and the creation of **sovereign micro-communities** to foster resilience.
* They announce an upcoming project for their community, set to launch next month, focused on providing fathers with a path toward personal transformation.

Host Mission: To encourage men to become the best versions of themselves—physically, mentally, and spiritually—while challenging mainstream narratives to protect their families and futures.

• Upcoming Launch: A new dedicated space for the Dads Against the Narrative movement is coming to the Skool platform in May.

• Purpose: This community is designed to help fathers move beyond the podcast discussion and into active, disciplined transformation alongside like-minded men.

• Call to Action: Listeners should stay tuned for the official link next month to join the mission of building sovereign micro-communities and resilient families.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:03

What's up, guys? Welcome back to the Dads Against the Narrative podcast, where we cut through the noise, challenge the status quo, and talk real talk about life, family, and the world around us. I'm one of your hosts, Nate Feathers. You might know me better as Dads Don't Babysit on Instagram. I'm here with my co-host, Jag Nofell, better known as Natural Born Father, straight out of Mexico. We are glad you guys are here with us. Be sure to hit that subscribe button so you know what we're up to on YouTube. That's also the place where you can see our handsome and stunning faces if you're wanting to follow along there. Don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe. Uh, share what we're doing here, as we need you guys to get the word out to as many fathers as possible. We so we can get them, wake them up, shake them up, and get them thinking a little bit more critically about becoming the best men they can be, as well as best husbands and fathers that they can be. Guys, we're glad you're here. Jack, what's up, man? Bro, this is good.

SPEAKER_01 0:53

It was a month off, guys. Sorry if you're waiting for a new episode to pop out, but uh things have been wild in my life down here in Mexico. And as as Nate slowed down, I sped up in a hurry and very unexpected, but we are back, and it feels good to just see Nate's face. It is good to talk to you, bro. And it's like last night we were just talking about this, guys. It was like we haven't spoken so long. It felt like it was like I missed a family member. Like, damn, man, this is this is great, you know. You don't realize it until it's gone, and then you're like, oh, I did miss this.

SPEAKER_00 1:30

Yeah, and then what happens is it goes like the time goes by, it feels like time goes by slowly. Like, you know, the days are long and the years are short, is what they say, but it feels like you know, the like things are going crazy, like when you're busy, you turn around, you're like, Holy shit, it's been a month. Like, that's crazy. I can't even believe it's been a month, but I mean that's just how it works, you know. Yeah, so right, you're like, holy shit, like they're five. No, what's going on? I mean, that's how I feel. I mean, that's it's just rolling downhill faster and faster with every kid we have.

SPEAKER_01 2:00

Yeah, last last month, my uh one son turns six. Next month, my other one turns two, and it's like, man, how the hell am I father for six years? I mean, for you, you it's like 23, and that's uh crazy, right? So for me, uh six years a lot. I'm like, man, I never imagined at 38 I was gonna start having kids, and here I am, loving the loving it, loving every part of it, and that's a big part why I haven't been around too. It's um I've been doing the warrior path thing, I've been doing all that, which I have some funny story there, but I'm not gonna share it on the podcast unless you guys should I share it? Should I share why I lost the clients? All right, guys. I'm gonna give you I'm gonna give you a quick story, and this is it shows a closed mind. And then that's the only reason I'm gonna show it. Is if you follow me on Instagram, Natural Born Dad, I speak a lot like we speak here on Dads Against the Narrative. I talk my truth, my opinion, and a lot of times my opinion leads to me with the unknown. I don't have to have an answer, but I often I often speak about the Jewish supremacy. One of my best friends is Jewish. I'm not talking about the Jewish civilians, just like when I talk about America being shit, I'm talking about Washington, D.C. Washington, D.C. is what ruins the entire fucking population, but it doesn't mean Americans are bad. Well, I had a Jewish uh client where I they were my private client, and I had one that wasn't a private client, and guess what? They found my social media after they've been with me for six months, and they've been I'm with their kids by myself all the time, and every time they're like, Man, my son is getting better and better, and or the other ladies like my kids are just loving you, and this because I don't bring politics or my points of view to training kids, I'm teaching them discipline, leadership, accountability, right? And so it was it was kind of like a shock like, is this serious? Like, you love me, your kids love me. You're gonna look at my social media and then you're gonna take offense and probably didn't listen to the whole damn thing. You probably saw like one reel and was just like, nope, this guy's anti-Semitic, or whatever everyone says now. Which I guess if I'm anti-Semitic, cool, but like that doesn't bother me if you call me it. It's just like if we're open-minded, they would have spoken to me. Instead, they just text and they're like, Thank you for all everything you've done. We're done with the Warrior Kid Club. That's it. That's all you got. That's all we got. Thank you. My kid, it was a great time, but uh, we're gonna be done with it, and that's it, nothing else. And then I'm like, that that doesn't sit right. So I went to my wife, I'm like, they must have found my social media. I don't tell people my social media in person because if you meet me in person, you have a whole different perspective of me than my social media where I speak like the podcast, I cover things that are very um controversial, you know, and it's like a little bit, it's speculation, a lot of my things. So just like the show, speculation, and it's like you know, we we dig into it. And if they would have just asked me, even the Jewish family, they would have been like, they would have realized I have nothing, I'm not bringing natural-born dad to your kids, I'm bringing retired military jack to your kids because those are two different people, two different personas, you know, and and so it was it was it was probably pretty wild that that happened last month. I lost four kids because of that. And but I also picked up more kids, of course, because I'm always growing, but who knows? I live in a small town and they probably are just like talking about me now, but it's all right.

SPEAKER_00 5:41

You know, I got a uh we got another friend. I I won't mention him because I don't want to do that, but like you know who he is. But like he lost a client for his political thoughts and beliefs as well. And uh, and I I think that that's I think my biggest frustration with that is like watching how much division is caused by that. You know, like I I guess I can't, I I I don't know. And like it's not just political, like because obviously that's not political, like some like that's more um that's more belief-based, but I agree with you. Like, like if you drill down to it, it's not like you're not sitting there going, it's the Jews. Like you're not like it's the Jews. You're saying there is a small group of people who are Jewish or claim this, which in my opinion, the Jewish people should be like, stop fucking doing that, stop acting like you're Jewish, stop saying you're Jewish and then doing all this bullshit, like right. Like, um is that it's like there's a small group of people that are doing this and they have a Jewish background or Jewish, whatever it is, but it's not like the full thing, right? Like, I bet right now we're dealing with, you know, you know, the biggest thing in America right now is obviously the war in Iran, and I'm assuming that's everybody's everybody's thing. But my opinion is if I met Iranian people, I wouldn't be like, I hate that guy, you know what I mean? Unless he's a douche. Like at that point, you're like, well, this guy, and there's douches in all in all areas, right? That like you could be you could be a rich douche, you could be an American douche. Like, there's plenty of people who are just shitbag people, and it's just because they're shitbagged, not because they have a cult, they're a certain culture. I bet if you go over there, it's like if I were to go there, I could probably get in touch with uh Iranian people and have a lot in common with them. We'd probably find out that they just want to raise their kids in peace, they want to have the life they want to live, and they want to be left the hell alone. Oh my god, that's exactly what I'm like looking for land here because I'm like, I want to raise my kids in peace, I want to be around them, I want to have the stuff I want and have the freedoms and whatever else that looks like, and leave me the fuck alone. We probably have a lot more in common with that's the way it is, probably with the Lebanese people, that's the way it is, I bet, with Canadian people. Anywhere you go, that's probably because there's something in our spirits as humans that's like, I'm supposed to be this way, and then you have people who are drawn to power are usually like underneath, they might look nice on the outside, but they're just shitty fucking evil people on the inside, and they're drawn to power. And honestly, the truth is, and I've heard Andy Frasella say this on the Real AF podcast good people have a tendency to not want to be in a position of power because it's not a responsibility thing, but they're just like, Yeah, I just don't want to do that, I don't want to be part of that, I don't want to be in this kind of and then evil people are like, I want power, I want that. So they go to that and they get voted in because they lie and they have this certain face that makes them look like they're a good person, and then on the inside, they're not. And every leadership in every country deals with that right there, instead. And I that's my biggest frustration with what you're dealing with, is that you never are sitting there saying, Oh, it's all the Jews, it's the Jews, you know what I mean? You're you're actually saying this is a small group of Jewish people doing some shitty things running the world, and it's and it's fucked up, and and we needed to stop this.

SPEAKER_01 8:55

And we're all seeing it now. I mean, so it's not like it's not like everyone's blind. People have woken up to like who runs the pharmaceutical companies, Jewish, who runs Washington, DC, dual citizens of Israel, Jewish. It's like it goes on and on. Who created the COVID vaccine and all the mRNA shit and all of the entire pandemic? Jewish. It always goes back to the same players, and it's like we're done with it. Who caused 9-11 to happen? I'm 100%, I'm 100% it's Jewish again. It probably probably met in Yahoo, actually. I mean, the guy has been as evil as can be. He's not even a he's not like the thing is is when people are like, Oh, you're going after Jews, he's fucking Polish. He's not even he he converted, like most of them are converted, they're not like the ones that they're like, Oh, I'm right off the fucking Hebrew fucking, you know, like it makes just no fucking sense, bro. Like, you guys are not from that area, you aren't from there. You guys are all converting, and then you're saying that you've been Jewish your whole life, and then you're claiming that you're God's chosen people after you convert. Like, what the fuck is that? And and everyone's sick of hearing the God's chosen people, and the Americans were all fed up because every fucking thing, Iran war is not our war, that's Israel's war, and then they go bomb everyone, and then they keep making fucking Trump look like a clown, dude. He's like, You are not allowed to you are not allowed to bomb Lebanon. The US says no, and then the very next day they're bombing Lebanon again. They didn't give a fuck, they didn't give a fuck, and then they did the same thing with Iran, and he's just shown himself to be more of a fucking puppet to a certain small group that all ends up to be Jewish. So it's like I'm just sick of it, man. And then when you look at our fucking textbooks, who wrote the textbooks that we grew up with? Robert Maxwell, the Maxwell production company is Gislain Maxwell's dad, Jewish.

SPEAKER_00 10:55

So how do you his masad? Like he was he's 100% masad, yeah. So you're like, wait, and and here's the thing, man, I've heard plenty of times where they're like, Yeah, you can go all the way, go back to any newscaster, they were CIA operatives who were you know in those roles to propagate whatever they were trying to. I'm like, all like Walter Cronkite, CIA agent, like this kind of stuff is out there where you can be like, okay, he's long gone, so now it doesn't matter. So yeah, fine, it's we don't need to classify that anymore. But once you know that, it's like, well, what about today? Well, you know what I mean? It's like, yeah, dude, like the the textbooks have been uh were written by him, were written by Jill uh Rob Maxwell, and and I look at what we learned, and I've heard this. I know it was you, I know you did this real. I know you did, but it was how is it that we've heard about this? And I there's death is oh is not okay, right? Genocide is not okay. So hear that off the front end. But how is it that all we've ever heard about growing up, if you're a Gen X or a millennial, that all you ever heard about growing up was six million Jews being killed by Hitler, but you never heard about the Bolshevik revolution and the hundreds of millions of Christians killed by the Bolsheviks were Jewish or claimed to be, by Jewish communists in Russia. I mean, seriously, you're talking 60 million to 100 million. So you're looking at 10 to 10 times more or or even above that number of this six million that we've heard over and over again.

SPEAKER_01 12:27

And the crazy part is six million Jews didn't live in Europe at that time, three million did. So you're telling me they all regenerated and died twice. It makes no fucking sense. But the Red Cross says that 217, 230,000 died, and it was from lice, it was from it was not anything from gas. There's no gas. They've tested it hundreds and hundreds of times. There's never been gas there. They built a chimney in Auschwitz after the war was over, like to make it to sell it. But if you look at things, and and let's do this really quick. We're gonna rewind for a second. Look at the Tsar. The Tsars were in Russia, right? And we actually sided with them in World War I. And then the Tsars were overthrown by Jewish Bolsheviks, as we all know. That's where they fucking just start killing everybody, and then they took over, and then they killed 16 million Christians. Like that was just okay. No one wants to talk about that, and then we're gonna move from the Bolsheviks, we're gonna move there, and we're gonna go into Germany, right? We're we're gonna just gonna take over Germany now, and so that's what they did, and that's that was the Weimar Republic that people forget. So they left the Bolshevik revolution, came over, so they're kind of split as Russia kind of took back their land and took back everything. They had to kick out all the fucking Jews. That's the only way. This is why Russia is so amazing today, because Putin's not playing that game. He's like, No, you are not invited here. You already ruined our country and killed half the damn people one time. We're not doing it again. And then what they do, they set themselves up perfectly to go in Germany, they they declare war against Hitler after he says he's not gonna do the usury, his people are not eating, they're not getting money, and they're not playing the bank game with them. And he kicked out the Rothschilds, right? And he wrote a note to them, and this note pissed them off, and they declared war. And it says it all over the United States newspapers and all over Europe's newspapers. There, you can trace back 20 newspapers easily, I'm sure it's probably even way more, but at least 20 articles I've read myself that says in bold print, Judeo declares war on Germany, 1933, and that's before World War II starts. So, what do you think they're gonna do during that time since they don't have a country? They're gonna they're gonna get their asses in every little nicking cranny corner of their country, they're gonna prompt do all their propaganda, right? And they're gonna say, you know what, six million Jews. And they started the six million Jew things in 1910. It was like before World War I was over, before World One started, they were already talking about it. Yeah, because World War I was like 1914 to 1919, and so uh you're telling me these people are the good guys, but they were they spent 50 years telling you 60 million or six million Jews, six million Jews before the fucking World War II, and there's tons of articles about it, even in the American uh the US papers that showed it. And over and over, same thing. Worry about the six million Jews, there's six million Jews. So they were playing the long game, and that's the problem. They play the long game of manipulation just as Rockefeller did. And we watched what Rockefeller did, he's destroyed so much of the country, and there are Rothschilds, they're all tied together, just like the Titanic when everyone's oh the Titanic in the iceberg. No, the fucking Titanic deliberately was crashed and fucking got rid of the other guys who didn't want to be part of the Federal Reserve, right? Because then it didn't exist, and then Woodrow Wilson came in, of course, before this is before Titanic, and he started allowing them to have all that. So when the Titanic happened, it was already like the Jews were controlling the United States. So when people are coming at me saying, Oh, this is just recent, it's not. They've been in control of the United States for hundreds of years, and and I've seen some facts about Abraham Lincoln speaking of removing the Jews. Abraham Lincoln also spoke about the things that me and Nate have spoken about dragons and giants. Those were things he talked about. He also talked about the Moorish Empire, he also talked about Tartaria. So it's like these things are uh Abraham Lincoln, our president, was talking about. And now I saw someone do a reel on tying this all together where how Jews killed Lincoln and killed Kennedy, and that was like the last straw was Kennedy. It was like it closed the loop, and that was their full control. And who they blame the whole time, Russians and communists, but the whole time, like they're the most communist fucking people there is. Russia's not like, yeah, I guess you could call it communist, but it's a very free country. People can go do so much. I have so many friends in Russia that are just like, bro, you're you've been you've been got big time. And I'm like, fuck. Well, tell me, teach me. And I'm I'm like, I'm open to it, but other people just aren't open to listen to other sides now. It's so strange.

SPEAKER_00 17:27

Well, and that's the thing. Like, uh when you mentioned Lincoln, the thing I was hearing is we say, like, oh, greenbacks, like we talk about the the money and they and they call them green. That's what they were calling it when Lincoln was going to be putting the like Lincoln was literally doing what Hitler was doing in his own country. Lincoln was was putting the like taking like starting to work towards getting rid of usury, and he was trying to put the the US on its own dollar without the backing of this kind of this kind of setup, right? And the only other guy who did that was Kennedy, was doing the same thing at the same time, like uh obviously 100 years later. But you're looking at two guys trying to do the exact same thing that were assassinated. I mean So tell me the system's not rigged right there. They already had it rigged.

SPEAKER_01 18:14

Exactly. Now we're paying 60% in tax, and people are okay with that.

SPEAKER_00 18:20

Oh, dude. Um my wife and I were just looking at uh the fact that there are nine states now, and there used to be only five. There are nine states in the U.S. that don't have that don't have uh state income tax. We live in one of them. It's like I know it's uh I didn't know it was Texas, must be a newer one, but Texas doesn't, Nevada, Tennessee, uh, New Hampshire, Wyoming, uh, and Florida. And then there's two others that are newer to me, so I don't know those ones. But but the thing is, it's like they don't also they don't like Texas doesn't charge personal or in or or uh corporate taxes. And I was like, oh shoot, we got to look into that, right? Because Nevada never has. They charge tax on on sales tax and gaming. And I'm like, well, that makes total sense. And so that's what like so Texas is taking that as well. I'm just looking at the fact that they charge so much tax. I got a major raise when I moved from Ohio, which had a six percent state tax, to Tennessee. I mean, I got a massive raise just by moving and not having to pay that anymore. But you know, you talk about being free. Uh I feel like if you're paying over 50% of your money that you earn off the sweat of your back or like whatever you're doing, if you're paying that to somebody else, yeah, you're more of a slave than you are anything else. And that was the whole thing. If you can force people to keep their heads down, especially the men, you can force the men to keep their heads down and look at only the stress of their life to live and survive, then you can run all sorts of bullshit in the background and keep taking over and take and take and take. And dude, they're doing it right now. That's what it feels like. I mean, it doesn't feel like that. That is what is that's the play that's being run is force their heads down by raising prices, like whatever it is, whether you believe, like whether you feel like, because I don't totally agree with it with Jack on Iran, but at the same time, and that's fine. But at the same time, it doesn't matter. Gas prices are going up, whether I whether I agree with with Jack or not, the gas prices are still that that's where it's affecting me. And that's what pisses me off. It's like, okay, if my gas prices are going up, that means the guy that is transporting food, that means his prices are going up, which means the food is going to cost more. And I'm like, you just full circle coming back around to keeping us looking down at like, and it's not even navel gazing, it's like protecting the family and keeping like, how do I keep going? And uh how do I keep this family going? I think the biggest frustration I have with that is I make pretty good money doing what I do, and I still have to like go, I got I need to double my income just to get out from underneath the looking down. It's so annoying, it's so frustrating.

SPEAKER_01 20:54

Remember like when we were kids, dude, if a dad made 50,000, they were in good shape. 50,000 was like, oh my goodness. I remember my stepfather made 55,000. He's like, This is the kind of money you guys need to make when you're older. Yeah, and now 55,000 is nothing.

SPEAKER_00 21:10

If you make 55,000, you you're barely even able to get groceries. Dude, you are you're starving, and that's if you only have two kids, you know what I mean? Like, I've got I've got six, and surprise, I got one on the way, but like, you know, so we're going to seven. Like, I got seven. If this you cannot you cannot live with that much tax on you, and that is by design, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_01 21:31

Oh, yeah. No, no, no. I mean, think about it. If they took over before the civil war, which it shows they did, I mean, there's a lot of lot of evidence. You have 200 years of being able to manipulate the system, so much so that you can get to 60 taxing someone. And most people be like, no, we're not taxed 60. It's 35. Yeah, but they don't realize your tax when you die, your tax on house property tax, your tax at clothes, your tax at the grocery store. The tax is just fucking everywhere. It's like, oh, let's just throw some tax on there. And then let's money launder it through, I don't know, daycares, maybe through some um hospice. Who knows? Because we're finding billions and billions of dollars right now in California, uh, New York, Illinois. It's probably every fucking state. It's every state is doing money laundering through these things, daycare and hospice. I mean, it looks like that. It's why they didn't when you huh?

SPEAKER_00 22:28

We're not mad enough. We're not mad enough. We should be storming.

SPEAKER_01 22:31

That's I was getting to that. That's exactly what's going to say, because look at USAID. When they went through that whole thing, nothing came of it. Nothing. Epstein files, nothing came of it. So they just start throwing distractions. Here's NASA. NASA's back in the picture. We're going to the moon. We didn't have plans to go to the moon, but we're going to go to the moon all of a sudden. We're also going to start a war. We're also going to make sure Ukraine's still going. We're also going to remove cigarettes. Now cigarettes are going to be illegal. If you were born 2023 and above, you're not allowed to buy cigarettes for your whole life. That's a new law in UK. That's supposed to come here because nicotine blocks nanoreceptors of the mRNA vaccine. Yeah, let me tie that shit together for you guys. You're muted, bro. Oh, wait, no, you're not muted.

SPEAKER_00 23:13

You're holding that shit in. Before you do that, here's what I would say is like, look, I don't want to smoke. I don't give a shit. Like, I don't need the nicotine. I don't have to have it. I don't, I don't want to smoke. It, but it's the same thing as like I drive a 2017 Jeep. I fucking love it. Just took the tops off, took the doors off. It's like, yes, I'm live, I'm loving it, right? But that motherfucker dings at me if I don't put my seatbelt on. Now, I want to wear my seatbelt. I want to wear it. But if I don't want to wear it, fuck you. I don't need something dinging at me the whole time to make me do something. I I bought these little clips. They're little clips that you put in your seatbelt holder, like the seatbelt clicker to like shoot her up and not wear your seatbelt. Right. In fact, you can get them on Amazon and they got a they got a beer bottle opener. Again, not a great idea. Like, don't mix drinking and driving and not wearing a seatbelt. I still want to wear it, but I don't want to be told that's the difference. Don't tell me, like you can't like if you start doing that, and this is where I'm all for the freedom side of it. I'm like, don't tell people they can't smoke. What are you doing? Like, if you are gonna make smoking illegal, like, do I want to sit in a restaurant where someone can smoke? No. I mean, I grew up in the 80s and 90s. They used to have a smoking section. You know this. Crazy.

SPEAKER_01 24:23

That shit was awesome.

SPEAKER_00 24:26

Pizza Hut. It was like I'd sit, like then they'd see this next to the pizza, the smoking section. You're in the non-smoking section, and that smoke is like billowing over and like back down onto your pizza. You smelled like smoke, whether you liked it or not. Dude, I remember that. And like to this day, I'm like, oh, it's so gross. But don't make that illegal. If they want if the dudes want to fucking smoke, what the hell? It's the same thing they did with alcohol. And I think they remain they made alcohol legal again because it's an easy way to like make people docile and control them. It actually causes estrogen to rise uh in men, so their testosterone drops. Like, there's all sorts of things that alcohol does to you, too. That why not just make it legal and let people fuck themselves up? But I'm for the freedom side of it.

SPEAKER_01 25:09

I know you're getting ready to go with it, but I was gonna say my stepfather, I remember I was a teenager, and I remember the law came out in Ohio, because I'm also from Ohio, I'm from Cleveland, and so the law came out and it was like seatbelts are now the law, right? And it was like early 90s, and I remember my stepfather being like, This is the first restriction that's gonna take us further down the line of more restrictions. He's like, I'm not wearing seatbelt, and he had that 78 Bronco, you know, the old nice ones that are badass, and um all of our cars, you know, it was the old cars didn't have that beeping shit. So we never wore seatbelts growing up ever. My kids, I live in Mexico, I don't wear seatbelt ever. My kids don't my kids don't go in car seats, my kids are not wearing seatbelts. They sit behind car, they sit behind the adults, right? They don't they're not allowed to sit in the middle. They do the old rules, those are the old rules. If you're the smallest, you're not allowed to be in the middle. You could go flying through the windshield. Oh my god, but it's freedom. It's freedom.

SPEAKER_00 26:07

I get to make that choice for my family as the leader. Exactly. And you know what? I'm gonna tell my I've told my kids to wear their seatbelt. It doesn't, it's not because it's dinging, the dinging drives me nuts, but now I found a way around it, and that's the thing that people will do. You had when alcohol was illegal, you had Al Capone, right? People are gonna do what they want to do, whether it's legal or not. And you like again, this is why government needs to be small, in my opinion, but that's why they're always trying to like figure out their ways to do shit to you, to keep your head down, to keep you feeling like you're you're like to push you down. Like, dude, and I know you were getting to say stuff about like like the cigarette thing, so I do want to hear that. But I thought to myself, the first thought I I had was, I don't want to smoke, but what the fuck are you doing? No, don't put laws in place like that.

SPEAKER_01 26:51

Yeah. So the cigarettes, the funny part is cigarettes what causes cancer is the paper. It's not nicotine. And now that's like well known. Nicotine's actually good for you, and you see, or tobacco, I should say, not nicotine. Tobacco is good for you, like real tobacco. And if you guys have never, you know, like snorted tobacco and done a ceremony at all, it's wild, it's a whole different thing because it's like clears all of your senses. I don't like it. I've only done it in ceremony because it's like part of like cleansing yourself before you allow yourself to go into DMT and go further into the ceremony. And um yeah, it it's it's tough, it is very tough, but it's supposed to be one of the healthiest cleanses you can have is this tobacco that you snort up and it's horrible. I mean, it fucking burns. But any which way, I ended up buying tobacco pouches. The ones that Joe Rogan talks about are actually really good. I can't get them down here in Mexico, but there's a similar one. So I started like during the the winter, I dip because they say like all the mRNA shit won't get to you if you're taking nicotine or tobacco, some type of tobacco, right? That's natural. And so all the cigarette smokers, if you notice during COVID, didn't get COVID. Well, my best friends is a great example up in Cleveland. He is that like chain smoker. This guy wakes up and smokes three and then drinks a Coca-Cola and freaking out the door for construction work and shit. And he was not sick the whole time during COVID. He's he still doesn't get sick from like any of that shit. He's never had COVID. And he's like, he told me five years ago, he's like, dude, it's because I smoke cigarettes, I'm not gonna get COVID. I'm like, what the hell is that? He's like, I can't tie it together, but I know it has something to fucking do with me smoking cigarettes. Well, guess what? The science came out, and that was true. The nanotech technology, like I said earlier, can't attach to your body because the nicotine or the tobacco is going to block it, it blocks those receptors. So, like, as it normally attached, nicotine's there as a wall, and it can't even go in to get into like your defensive system.

SPEAKER_00 28:56

Yeah, of course, of course they would make it illegal now then.

SPEAKER_01 28:59

Yes, so like when people are like, how many people have you talked to that are just like 2030 agenda is not real? It's like, bro, did you not know who wrote that? Like Klaus Schwab and all of them said it. They it's in his book. What are you talking about? Like the fucking great reset is his book, Klaus Schwab, like the most evil fucking man. And the problem is those are probably all still faces. It's still probably like the 13 big families, the Medici's and Rothschild's and JP Morgan's and all of them, who guess what they all are tied together into the Jewish cabal again. It always comes to the same player. So we're just wrapping this all up, this little section of today, because it's just man, I've I've had it, I've had it. Like, we need to wake up and we need to say enough is enough. And if you're not seeing this and you're not open to it, I mean, guess who created vaccines? Guess what they were? Jewish. Guess who was on the news stage? Jewish. It goes on and on. It's like everywhere you go, why is the same players? And it's like it's not the Jewish people, it's the Jewish supremacy. It's these people who are so rich and want power. Like you were saying, I I love that thing about power because uh I heard that same episode on Andy Forsella uh on real AF where he was talking about that. He's like, Oh only the people who want power are the people who are fucking like Satanists. And of course, and if you guys aren't tracking, like I don't people are are so blind to it. I mean, I I saw this reel the other day where someone made like you know, I'm now becoming Satanist, and it's like all the actors and athletes who've said this, like from Brad Pitt through all of them, man. It's crazy. LeBron James, Adam, and they've all said it somewhere, and then people just laugh in the room, but their faces are serious because they have to tell us what they're doing. So it's super wild that people are still like not pissed about the Epstein files and still denying half the shit. Like when we're finding out that vaccines are fucking people up, well, maybe we should stop taking vaccines. When we're finding out that it's wars for attrition rates of males that are healthy and strong, well, maybe we should stop going to fucking war so we can save our fucking young men from dying, so that way a generation can actually get their feet gripped into the ground and say, all right, here we are. But when you take away the men, and I know me and they have spoken of this before, you take away the men, you take away the strong men who have audacity, who have integrity, who are authentic, those types of men are dangerous. They don't want you to have free thoughts, they don't want you to be able to think on your own, they don't even want you to think about your own thoughts. Like it's fucking wild. So, you know, if we that's what we need. We need some men to be strong. But the problem is, is like you said, men like you and I, we're raising families. And I'm still a true believer, like that's where the money is at, is raising families to the next generation. Don't let your kids join a war. Maybe get the fuck out of the United States until it figures itself out. Because the United States is just the United States right now, everyone's laughing at the United States down here in Mexico. People are like, dude, like uh Estados Unidos, so loco, mucho loco, mucho loco. I'm like, see, see, that's why I live here, dude. It's crazy up there. People are and you feel it. I've only been back to the States once in like the last three years, and uh uh the anxiety and the stress you feel by people is crazy compared to Mexico because Mexico is so slow, it's family oriented, it's very fucking safe, it's the safest place I've ever lived. And in the in the Americas, you you tell people that about the United States or in the United States, and they're like, Oh no, that's not true, that's not true. No, we were programmed. Everything that you think about is programming, even like as a dad, I'm programming my kid, I'm his inner thoughts, I'm his inner mind. Like, I'm programming him to have my morals, my values, my foundation. And so when people are like, I'm not programmed, bro, we're all programmed, so am I. I'm still programmed, I need to figure that out. So we need to actually de-school ourselves, as me and Nate have also spoken about before. Forget what you were taught before and start just relearning. And if you have kids out there that are young, learn with them, they're the best to learn with. Like my six-year-old, bro, he'll bring up things that I was like, fuck. Yeah, yeah, that's crazy, dude. Yeah. I mean, it's just we need to just start thinking differently.

SPEAKER_00 33:31

Absolutely, absolutely. And I'll I'll top it back in. Like, I think it like I want to take it back a little bit because I was thinking that as you were saying that, I'm like, you know, if you like you said, if you can if you can put the men down, and that's what's crazy to me, is how how much in the United States, how much culture has pushed men down for like decades. So the thing I always go back to is if you look back to the late 70s, early 80s, and on, the men generally in a comedy is are are idiots, right? They're the buffoon. And what happens there is if you'll laugh at it first, then you'll accept it. And they did this. I listen, I'll say this. I loved, I thought Will and Grace was hilarious, but that was the first show where they brought a gay dude in, like where they had gay guys in it, right? And that was where I heard if you laugh at it first, if they can make you laugh at it, then they can get you to accept it, and then they can take you to the next level. And it's not, it's not that that is bad or wrong or however you want to put it. It's that one, that's how humans work. And if you don't know that about yourself, if you don't know that about humanity, and then also understand, okay, I am, I have to be aware of this, then you will walk down that slippery slope. They'll just they just take a little bit. That's why when you talk about this crew that's had a chance to run the show for 200 years, holy shit, man. If they teach their, they have programmed their children to do the exact same thing, right? Rich people teach their rich people teach their children differently than poor people because it's a different kind of programming, it's a different subconscious, it's a different everything. And so when you look at 200 years of being able to influence the powerful or be the powerful and influence the the plebs, if you want to call it that, you have the ability to slow walk them down into depravity. When you take them to depravity, specifically the men, when you take them to depravity, you can crumble a society. And when you do that, now you can control. The hardest part I've always had a problem with is I just keep going, why? Why do you want to do this? Why do you want to destroy the society? Why do you want to do like it doesn't make any sense? And the thing I have to come back to is I like a a the best way I can put it is if you have any good in you whatsoever, you cannot understand the thoughts of a fully evil person. Those who are evil, like I can't put my morals on people doing shit and say, why would they do that? That doesn't make any sense. It makes every bit of sense when you go, that person wants to watch the world burn. And I know, I know that if I reference movies, everybody gets it. So if you've seen uh the if you've seen Batman, the the Dark Knight, right? When he talks about the guy, um uh he's talking about the guy that they they met up with in Burma and he was raiding the jewels from what they were mining out, and and he said, I I we didn't understand why, and we were trying to figure out what he was doing. And then all of a sudden one day I realized that the robber, like he saw a kid with a with a ruby the size of a tangerine, and he's like, We realized that he did it for the sport of it. He's like, Some men just want to watch the world burn. And for those who don't want to watch the world burn, those who want to see the world and people succeed, who have love for the humanity and love for their their uh their fellow man and their fellow like humanity, those people cannot and will never understand those who don't have that, those who want to watch the world burn. That's why when guys are saying something about Satanism with a straight face, everyone around them laughs because they're like, I would only say that if I were joking. Yeah, but that guy doesn't do that because he is fully evil. He does want bad things for everyone else because that gives him power and money and all the things he wants. And if he's willing to do that, he can have it. And so that's how he works. And that's so different than the normal societal human being. That's not how we're wired. They've had to like either have that it put in them or they've had to like undo all of the wiring and only have evil. And that is actually, I can I know that I I grew up in the church, so I always bring it back to that. But when you look at Genesis six, which let's be real, six chapters in to the whole like understanding of the of the universe and the and the world, six chapters in, God's already like, uh, kind of regret doing this. You know what I mean? Like, and it literally said God regretted making man. When you look at at chapter six of Genesis, it says that uh all the thoughts, when God saw that all the thoughts of man were always evil all the time, he knew he had to flood the earth and he said, I regret making man. That is what we're talking about. We don't have like most people don't have all their thoughts evil all the time, but those who do, we can't understand, we can't see it like that.

SPEAKER_01 38:08

100% agree. And and you know, you look back and it's like you see the evil shit that's happened, and how can you not say there's evil fucks in the world? And I've met guys in especially in the military when the COVID was happening, I was calling um crimes against humanity the worst ever. I was in the military as a captain, telling everyone that so I was getting yelled at by my fucking commanding officer. Of course, I was going to see the colonel and the general all the time because I would speak out. Oh, none of my soldiers got the vaccine until the they're fucking forced it. But it's like, dude, I said it to this guy, and he goes, Jack, I just don't believe that kind of evil exists in the world. And I'm like, dude, you need to wake the fuck up. You don't think there's that type of evil? You think 9-11 was a terrorist? No one fucking believes it's a terrorist. No one anymore. You ask anyone, I mean, me and you've done shows on 9-11, and it's like no one believes 9-11 anymore. Like, no one's gonna be like, oh, terrorist it. Everyone's like, that was an inside job, that was a false flag move. Now, who was it? It's looking more and more all the time with all the evidence that it was the Jews. I mean, look at Silverstein and what buying the buildings, and we all see like who was involved, who benefited, Jews, who were dancing, Jews. So it's like it goes back to them. And so, what is the bigger picture here? And if you look at the Great Reset book, it talks about the Greater Israel. And if you know what Greater Israel is, that means they get the control from the Mediterranean all the way over to I don't know what that sea is over there. Shit, pretty much past Iran, the whole fucking Middle East. Pretty much they want they want the whole goddamn thing, which is crazy to me that people could think that, but that's exactly what they're doing. When you watch their actions, it matches it. And it's like when Netanyahu was gonna get overthrown and get kicked out. What'd he do? He let he let them come in from Gaza and say, Oh, well, I guarantee that was his own fucking people. I guarantee. I mean, all of a sudden the guards didn't see it in the fucking the greatest wall security they have, right? The Iron Dome falls, falls to fucking Neanderthals. Yeah, no, no, that was staged. That was 100% staged, so they can commit genocide to the group of people so they can get more land. Same thing they just did with Lebanon, found the shelf, the south of Lebanon, nonstop, remove the city names off the maps, which they did on Google now, and now we got great, right? And then what happens? You start destroying the world because they can keep pulling from us. If you ever read this quote from Benjamin Netanyahu in 1990, he said, We will we will pull every last penny and power from the United States because they're big, they're able to handle it, and we will control it. And that's not exactly don't take me quoting, go look at the quote yourself. But that that's basically what he's summarizing. And the guy was evil then, he's evil now, and what they talk about in the agenda 2030 is a one-world government. Well, how are we gonna get to a one-world government? We have to make the world fucking chaotic, and then who's gonna control? Who is the one world government? Guess who it is? Jews. There it is. All right, it's all out. So they have a bigger mission, and when they're the evil fucks that are running everything, and already in all these countries, they control all the banks, they control all the power because they control the banks. Well, what the fuck? Of course, they're on mission, and they you are not gonna get in their way because you're just a cattle to them. That I mean, you are a cattle from the fucking day you're born to the day you die. They inject you when you're born, they tax you when you die. They think about that. The whole time you are just a consumer to them, you are nothing, they don't care if you die. Look at look at what they've done with these scientists. The one place they took out five fucking people or ten people, they killed 10 to get to one scientist because they don't care. Same thing, they'll take down buildings like 9-11 because they don't give a shit. You are nothing, I am nothing.

SPEAKER_00 42:12

They'll kill 1500 people on a on a boat in the North Atlantic to get three. That's the whole deal. Like, and that's the thing, is like when you see that, I'm like, I would never do that. That is not that's not how I operate, that's not how I was taught. Like, I was taught that to love love, love for fellow man, you know, all of these things that many, many good people are taught. But when good men do nothing, that is when evil rises and does what it wants. And that is the biggest thing is that I like my oldest son said something the other day. Uh, he he was talking to his sister, and she was like, You're really hateful, because he was talking about this kind of stuff, and he was like, I'm just frustrated and mad. And he was like, you know what? It's like, but he was also saying something about protecting the family. And I don't remember all the ins and outs, but it it came back to him that he had this frustration and this anger about this feeling that like what he would do to people who would hurt his family. And his sister was like, Well, that's really hateful and um and and wrong. And I pulled him aside and I said, The church will teach you that this is this is wrong because the church has been feminized very, very hard. But when you understand that that feeling you have is a protective feeling, that's a feeling from God. That is a godly feeling of protection. Like when God talks, like the Bible actually says, I hate these people. He says, I hate people who like who are, what is it? They um they thirst for blood and they wanna, they want to hurt the innocent. You know, and Jesus said, Hey, like it would be better if we tied a millstone around your neck and tossed you into the sea than if you were to like cause any one of these innocent little ones to stumble. I mean, he's talking about children. So when I'm sitting here saying, nah, the people on the Epstein list, they need to die in a very, Public and horrifying fashion. That is acting my and that was what he was talking about, I think is what it was. And she was like, Oh, that's hateful and wrong. I'm like, dude, no one, no one who is willing to do that to an innocent person to do violence or anything like that to an innocent person is no one deserves a uh to fall asleep and then not wake up. They don't deserve a a uh what is that the that kind of death penalty uh where they where they just put you to sleep. They basically just put you to sleep and I'm totally blanketing my head. Where they inject them? Yeah, lethal injection. That's the one. So they don't deserve that because they violently hurt other people. And so then they just get to go to sleep. And that I know I sound awful, but I used to be like, oh no, God's not for capital punishment. Are you kidding me? The God of the universe of the of the the the Hebrew scriptures, the God of the Old Testament was like, hey, listen, when you go in here, you have to annihilate all the people. You can't even have the livestock, you have to kill all of the livestock because you can have nothing from them because of how evil they are. They will infiltrate you and they will they will cause you to be evil, right? And that's that's crazy, but they were also hurting children and doing wrong things. And I look at that and I go, Men, we men need to stand up and go, I protect. And when good men go, yeah, I'm supposed to be strong and powerful and smart and questionnaire and all of these things, and I'm supposed to carry a big stick. I think that that's what has to happen. Is it like, you know, my walk around strapped, and it's one of those things where it's like, I have all these crazy thoughts where I'm like, I had it one time where I was doing this walk away from my daughter was playing on the field, the boys were playing soccer, she was hanging out with a little girl. And I'm like, if someone rolled in there and I'm out here in the parking lot, I'm not close enough. Like, I can't even like that's how I work. And it's like, why am I so crazy? Well, I'm sorry, but that's how it has to be because I am in protect mode all the time because of the family I have. Yeah, and and when good men do nothing, evil steps up and takes over. It's just how it works. And this is why we have to teach our kids controlled violence.

SPEAKER_01 46:01

And I know people out there are gonna probably be like, fucking Nate and Jack, if they've been gone for a month and all of a sudden they're talking violence shit. I mean, guys, it it it he's right. I mean, first of all, like good men aren't stepping up at all. We're still listening to the guys who are eating fucking children and raping children. What the fuck is this about? Like, they're still taking the government seriously. How the fuck are you able to take that government serious when the Epstein files came out telling us that these motherfuckers are eating and raping children? And then not only that, they're they're producing them. They got kids and they're fucking making they they pay people to make babies, and then those are their babies to do whatever the fuck they want, and they think they can because as long as the baby is under the age of three, it says in the not Talmud, is it the Talmud? Yeah, they they can do whatever the fuck they want to a three-year-old, anything. Think about that kind of sick motherfucker. Tell me you don't feel violence in your heart, in your soul, like you just want to kill them, not in a nice way, not in a slow, passionate way. I mean, not in a slow, like here to just take an injection. No, no, no, no. I'm talking about a nice, really fucking slow year fucking plan that's gonna hurt them over and over because anyone that's been part of that, they deserve the worst treatment. And it could be a wood chipper. I that I know that's a little bit faster, but that's gonna hurt. That's gonna hurt. Let's go first. But I mean, definitely the good good men out there, man. We need to start. We need to start to stop listening to the government. The government right now is not for the people, it hasn't been for the people. If you're someone out there who's like, Trump is for the people, no, he's not, he's fucking manipulated every which way, and I don't know why. And people are saying 5G chess and all this bull, 5D chess, whatever the fuck it's called. Like, no, he's not doing that. Like, it's over. Have you not seen it? Because in Israel, they're calling him the Messiah. Did you see that? The billboards of him like Jesus, just like the picture he posted where he came in. You saw that picture, right? And it's like, so they literally think that uh this one guy who's not supposed to be Jesus or not supposed to be Jewish, it's supposed to be like their next Messiah and the big leader and a big part of the Jewish world. And they said forever it's been uh Trump. Like they have so much about it. And I've read into this further and further, and I can't I can't believe people don't see this or have even heard this information because it's crazy. It is crazy that Israel is just like, yeah, Trump is for Israel first, and we see that every motion's been for them, and it's like enough is enough. We need to stop listening to the government, and we need to do what is right, and we need to do what is the hard thing, which is eating healthy, stop drinking alcohol, stop smoking weed, stop, stop all the negative shit in your life. Just get get in a path that is, you know, making you a better person, a better human. But also, like let's start talking about values and morals in the household. Let's line our kids up with morals and values that are actually good. Not that they need to follow the government, but maybe we teach them hard skills like gardening, building their own homes, working on their own cars. So when they're in positions like that, they don't ever have to listen to government. And maybe we need to make these micro communities that I talk about all the time that are sovereign communities. Maybe that's the future that we need to get into these micro communities. Like, I wish Nate lived down here in Mexico. 100% of our families would be together. My boys and your boys and the girls, but Dustin loves to be by little girls. It's like it's so weird to see a six-year-old like naturally just attracted to girls, and he's like, goes over and it's like he plays with them. Not that like he's he's like uh flirting or anything, it's just naturally he's just like he's like, I like being by the girls, and but he loves playing with the boys more, right? It's just when he wants to take a break, he goes by the girls and it's fun and super cute, and it's like it's the innocence they took away the innocence of children, and and and they did that over a long stretch from vaccines to every single thing that we've given them, and that's why we have to think about what we're feeding our kids, what they're drinking, they can't drink tap water. I mean, they have to like the air they breathe, we're everywhere we're getting poison, and our kids are the ones that are gonna feel the effects more than us. So, going forward, I definitely think good men stop listening to the government and start making the real morals and values in your house because that's where we're gonna make the change with these kids. Because if we have the good morals and values, and we know the government doesn't, then why the fuck would we ever listen to that? And I always thought that as a kid. I uh I mean, I also had a mom that was like, fuck the government, right? So my mom was already like, don't ever trust the government, they don't do anything for you. And so I just had that awesome mom that like saw the bigger picture of like, you know, we were on welfare, we were poor in the fucking Cleveland and the fucking ghetto. And she's like, the government doesn't help us. I'm out here dancing, stripping, bartending to fucking make you guys survive. And I don't think my sisters didn't even know any of that information. Um, because she told me when I was like at 20 years old, when my mom was like, go be a stripper, and before she died, she like told me all these things. I was just like, Wow, you're a fucking I can't believe you made that happen uh for us, for us. And now it's my turn to be better than that. I have to be better than my mom, I have to be better than my dad, and my kids need to be better than me. And I'm not gonna say each generation needs to keep getting better. We'll get to a point where it's like it just is in harmony. And I'm not saying like balance is a real thing in life, and everyone has to have balance and harmony, but there could be a harmony in the earth that's called Christ consciousness, that's where we're all connected. And guess who talked about that? The Tartarian Empire and the Moorish Empire, two empires that were the two biggest ones ever. And we don't know any of that in our history books. I think it's crazy. And as we're we're closing up, that that's my final statement. I just sorry guys, I can keep going because I missed Nate and I missed the doing the show, but um, we're not here to just make you scared, we're here to give you actual evidence and give you a path forward of like what we think, again, speculative, and it's our opinions where we should go to make this world a better place. And it needs to be more men like me and Nate that are connecting and saying, All right, man, I'm with you. I'm with you. What are you doing? And if that you're one of those out there, like, yeah, I fucking feel that we got something in store for you that's a little this is a coming out next month, something special that you need to stick around and find out because me and Nate have a plan for y'all. Nate, it's been awesome to be back, man. I've missed you and close us out, brother.

SPEAKER_00 52:45

Uh I mean, I I feel like it's the same close every time, and it's really this. It you said it, it I just want to reiterate it. There's never a time where becoming the best version of yourself, physically, mentally, socially, spiritually, there's never a time where continuing to grow in those areas to become the best possible version and better than yesterday, there's never a time where that doesn't serve you. So if you can do that and then just continue to be like, again, I mean, seriously, if evil men are drawn to power and that's what we see in the government, then you don't want to base your shit on them, anyways. So base it on I'm striving to become the best human I could possibly become, putting love out. I got a buddy who says, I'm just trying to put love into the world. I love that. Just putting love and and and love and and beauty into the world and making yourself the best possible version in every way, physically, mentally, financially, socially, spiritually, all of them. Pick a spot in your life and start there. My feeling is that if you can get discipline in your physical life and get discipline on the food you eat and the and the workouts that you're doing, if you start there, it will begin to affect every single part of your life. So start there if you need a place to start. Honestly, reach out to us. Both of us have ways of like different ways. Like I think Jack just does calisthenics and body weight. I do like actual like free weights. So we do different things, but we're doing the same with the same intent. So reach out to us, we'd be happy to help you that way as well. So, guys, that's that's my final piece. Get better, become the best you can possibly become.

SPEAKER_01 54:17

Thanks for being here, guys. Nate, it was awesome as always. We'll be back next week, and you know, keep up with us, because it's gonna get it's gonna get crazy again. We're gonna bring back the show to a lot of people and a lot of uh guests are gonna come back, guys. So stay with us, and next week we'll drop what the surprise is. Alright, guys, take care. Later, Nate. There we go.