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38. Living Without Fear: Escaping the Matrix of Modern Anxiety

• Jack Nofel & Nate Feathers • Season 2 • Episode 38

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In this raw and unscripted catch-up episode, Nate Feathers (DadsDontBabysit) and Jack Nofel (natural.born.dad) reconnect after a brief hiatus of "lifing." 

They dive deep into high-frequency social media strategy, rebranding, worldschooling, and building self-sufficient intentional communities. 

Jack shares his plans to transition from Mexico to Guatemala for the summer in search of land, contrasting the different types of spiritual and disciplined communities he has encountered along the way. 

Ultimately, the guys break down the profound reality of modern fatherhood: your self-discipline is the blueprint your children will follow.

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SPEAKER_02

What's up, guys? Welcome back to Dads Against the Narrative, the podcast where we cut through the noise, challenge the status quo, and talk real talk about life, family, and the world around us. I'm your one of your hosts, Nate Feathers. You know me better as Daz Don't Babysit on Instagram. I'm here with my co-host Jag Nofo, better known as the uh Mexican gangster. It's like coming straight out of natural born dad. Dude, he's been growing. I'm so proud of you, dude. You've been growing so much. Uh just putting out great content, people following and liking your stuff, like getting the view content up there. I'm really proud of it because obviously you've got good things to say. So I'm proud of that. But that said, we're also glad you guys are here with us. Be sure to subscribe, hit that subscribe button so you know what we're up to, especially on YouTube. If you want to see these amazingly handsome faces, don't forget to like and comment and share this with the dads around you because we want to get this word out as much as we possibly can to get other dads woken up, shake them up, and get them thinking about the world around them and how to become the best men, husbands, and fathers they can become. So, with that, we're glad you guys are here. Jack, good to see you again, buddy.

SPEAKER_00

Really am proud good to see you, bro. And guys, sorry, we have been lifing. And it's hard to get onto the podcast to record. I know we went through about where we were dropping two a week and we just disappeared. Um, sorry, I'm getting ready to move to Guatemala for the summer, and Nate's just building businesses in person, nonstop. So uh it's been busy. It's been busy uh nonetheless. We are here, and we decided to jump on here before our prequel that that what you guys don't ever get to hear. Uh, we were just talking about social media. So uh I'd like to hit this so you guys hear like what we think about as content creators, I guess, because that's what we're considered. We're also coaches, uh, but we do make a lot of content. At least I do. I make a ton of content. I understand that. I drop out six to ten reels a day. I was dropping 10 to 15 a day. That's how you guys saw me grow from 10,000 followers to 50,000. I kind of reeled it back at 50,000. In the last week, I gained another 10,000. I'm around 60,000 followers today. So um, yeah, well, me and Nate were talking about is just like when you're scrolling, it it's it's different when like for me is like going to create content for everybody. One, I get a lot of hate for the way I do things. If it's green screen, I get hate. If it's me pointing at my shit, people give me hate. Why are you in the picture? Get this asshole out of the picture. Like, dude, it's my page. Why are why are you on my page telling me what to do? If you don't like it, goes elsewhere.

SPEAKER_03

My favorite like, are you on crack? Like, why are you talking so fast?

SPEAKER_00

I'm like, uh I do get I do get some of those because I do guys. If you don't know, I speed my shit up because people's attention span is limited. So a trick of the trade is usually go to 1.3, 1.4 speed so people can hear you. But I do get those comments all the time where it's like, dude, this guy sounds cracked out.

SPEAKER_02

I'm like, I'm not really cracked out, dude. I'm just you told me that one time, and then I saw the comments, and it was like every video I saw, like I started like looking for that comment because I knew it was coming. But I mean, I would say two point point three. If you go to 1.2, it's really not as noticeable. That's where I keep it because I feel like it's crazy. Um, but 1.3, you can definitely tell. Um, and then 1.4, you do sound like you're cracked out. It's hilarious. Yeah, and it's still good stuff. I think that's the thing, is it's still good. And I agree with you. Like the I I notice I do it. I'll be watching something, and I may not know the content creator. Like, if I if it's one of my friends, a lot of times I'll watch to the end because I know that that helps the video, right? So if I'm watching yours, I watch the end because I know it helps the whole algorithm, right? But if it's somebody I don't know, and then I'm watching, and then I feel like I'm like, wow, this is the longest fucking video ever. And then I'm like, I'm out. And then and I know I even do it. So I try not to make content, and I know you do the same thing. We're trying not to make content that's so damn long, unless we're doing long form like this. We're trying not to make it so long that it like all of a sudden you're like, okay, I checked out, I need to laugh at something.

SPEAKER_00

You know, it's like yeah, no, that's a real thing, I think, that people don't think about. That's why I think Devin, our buddy, he he went and he did the 60-second clips. I'll give you this in 60 seconds. Everyone has one minute where they can just be like, Yeah, let me listen to this. And Devin does drop bombs. I I love his shit. And but that's like kind of the same idea I do with mine. I try to keep them to minutes. So if I have to speed it up to 1.2, 1.3, 1.4, so be it. Uh, and a lot of like I I drop a lot of old clips with old knowledge lately, and I like to speed that up because those old timers are like, Well, let me tell you. And I'm like, what the fuck? What they're saying is awesome, but it's like, dude, get to the point, get it to the fucking point. Or a lot of times I cut it right at the point. Like, people allow like the intro to happen to get to the point, and I don't, I think that's why a lot of people like my shit is I just go get right to the point, right to the bottom line up front, the bluff, as I like to call it. And you know, that's that's a big part. And if you're a content creator out there, or you want to be, or you're trying to grow your fucking views and engagement, really, engagement's the major thing this year in 2026. It's all about engagement, it's all about green screens, and it's all about how much you post. Let's be honest. Sometimes it's about quantity over quality. Unfortunately, it's the truth. Uh Nate might take an hour and a half to make one video, and I bust out 15 to 20 in that time, and I drop all of mine, and guess what? Mine are all get at least 2,000 views. I usually get over 100 likes, and then normally in those 20, I'm gonna have one that probably goes to a million or 500,000. And so it's like give and take. What do you want? Do you want the quality or do you want the quantity? Because I'm nowadays, quantity is crushing quality. And I just watched a whole video on this, bro, by Gary V. And Gary V is like, dude, he said the exact same thing I'm saying right now. Quantity is over quality anymore. You that's that's just the algorithm. You get yourself into more pockets of the algorithm when you're posting more. So uh in my community, I had a challenge where they had to post five to ten times a day and do a 60-second clip of them just speaking, doing the public uh speaking challenge that I did. And people are like, Well, how do you never fucking stutter or do any of this? Well, one, we've done how many podcasts? I also have done 50 other, 60 other interviews. I've got all of it out. I did a 30-day challenge of speaking publicly. So it's like always challenge yourself and don't be scared. If you feel like talking about it, fucking talk about it, post it, get out, get it out there. Don't even re-listen to yourself, just fucking drop it.

SPEAKER_02

Totally true. It's totally true. Yeah. I mean, I I here's the thing I will say about Devin that I I really like is that he actually preps it. And I think that's why he gets what he gets out of it, is that he tells you it's gonna be 60 seconds. And he's like, six things in 60 seconds. So he's transitioning out of something every 10 seconds or so, right? So he's like, hey, in 60 seconds, I'm gonna give you like I'm gonna give you a college course in 60 seconds. And then he like, you know, so you're like, oh, well, I want to hear what he's got to say. And then he goes through and you stayed for the whole video, and then he's like, Hey, you know, vend me five five bucks, which I always thought he was joking. Literally, I've I've watched him do that and been like, oh, that's awesome! Like, what a funny thing. And then I'm like, oh my God, people are actually Venmoing him five bucks. And then he's like, or you know, grab the seven-day reset. And this is like a total plug for Devin, but uh, whatever, I don't care. That's awesome. I just think it's funny that he's like, or or buy this course for or like seven-day thing for for whatever it is, like 27 bucks or 47 bucks. But I know that he was making money off of Venmo. People are just Venmo in money, and I never even thought, like, oh, that's something you should do. I thought that's I thought that was very innovative, but he's got people sticking around for it too. So they're still they're staying and they're watching what he's doing the whole time because he preps them. He's like, I'm you're gonna be here for a minute, and there it is.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and I don't think it's much of a plug. Devin's been on six shows of our 36. Like the dude's been the dude's been here, so it's well, I like his mindset and he he's got good stuff.

SPEAKER_02

So even if it were a plug for Devin, I don't care because he's I agree.

SPEAKER_00

And guys, so the like this is the kind of shit me and Nate when we first got on calls, we'll be talking about just bullshit. Like, dude, how's life? What's everything going on? Because normally we text each other every day, but it's been it's felt like fucking a month since we've really got to catch up with each other. So we're kind of these podcasts are our catch-up time. You guys get to listen to us catching up of two fucking homies hanging out. Uh, so welcome to the homie hangout. Maybe we should rebrand homie hangout. Um, anyways, yeah, guys. So uh what's happening for me and my family that's kept me uh at bay is we're moving, we're doing a whole trip. What we're doing is looking for land so we can start a community, like uh not really an eco-village, but kind of an eco-village permaculture vibe type of thing, but with people who are badasses. So the problem is this like we went searching for this. We moved to Costa Rica, went to this eco-village, and we're like, dude, some of the hippie motherfuckers are like doing a little too much ayahuasca and too much self-healing, and then you watch their kids or like retards, and you're like, dude, like there's an imbalance going on in your life here. Maybe we need to have a little discipline in with your fucking ayahuasca trips. And then you meet the people who are too disciplined, and you're like, bro, like if I eat this fucking cupcake by you, are you just gonna fucking fuck me up or what? Like, what's gonna happen if I eat a cupcake by not that I even eat cupcakes, but you know, like there's some people that are too far disciplined, and so like me and my wife are finding out like we don't really care, we just want good people that are loving by us, people that really like that's what it really comes down to. Like, we have friends who beat their kids' ass, and we're totally against that. But they're amazing people, actually. And it's like, you know, it's it we we stop judging that, and it's like when you're by the spiritual people, you feel like you're getting judged constantly. When you're by the disciplined people, you're like getting judged constantly, you feel like so. We're like this weird medium middle ground of like the hippie discipline people, and so uh, yeah, we want to start our own shit. And we have like three ex-soldiers who are like, dude, I'm in. I'm in, like paramedics from Kyle Carnahan, who's just like, dude, uh, dude, we'll fucking come. He just moved to El Salvador yesterday. Uh oh, really? Yeah, yesterday or day before, yeah. I was talking to him the whole way, and yeah, just cool shit. I mean, so it's like that's what we want. We just want conscious people, really, right? People who are intentionally living, loving life, being happy, enjoying their kids, raising good fucking kids. We all don't need to be the same, we know that. Like, that's ridiculous. But I think when we moved to Costa Rica, it was kind of like, dude, I want to be like that. I want to be in that surrounded with these people who are all intentional and loving. And then you get there and you're like, dude, they you walk by people, they don't even say hi, and you're like, what the fuck? With a Mexico and every Mexican says hi to you, and the only people who don't say hi to you are Americans and Canadians. You're like, this is fucking weird, dude. Like probably from New York or up that way.

SPEAKER_03

My wife's family's from Boston. Bostonians are so angry because it's so fucking cold most of the year. That's probably why they don't talk to you. They're like, I don't want to talk to you. I'm gonna be stuck out here in the cold. Get out of here. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_00

So that's what we're doing. So we're heading down southern Mexico, looking at land through we're going to Veracruz, and then we're heading down to Oaxaca area, but we're gonna stay in San Cristobal for like two weeks, and then out of outside of San Cristobal, we'll end up going to Guatemala, and then we'll stay probably in uh like Atatalan for a couple of weeks, and then Antigua for maybe a month or two and see what's up. Antigua's beautiful. I love it. Never been, never been. I've heard great things. I heard that there's a world school hub there, and it's huge, and people say all these great things in the world school group, so yeah, Guatemala's known for jade.

SPEAKER_02

Like they got a lot of jade, I don't got I don't know if it's mines or whatever, but they're really well known for it. But I did not know that Jade, because when I think jade, I think that like jade green that they have in Guatemala, I think it might be the only place you can find it. It's a purple jade, and it's like a lavender color, it's beautiful. And I remember seeing that and being like, what is this? And they're like, Oh, that's jade too. And I was like, jade is green, right? Like that's the whole reason it's called that, like or whatever. But no, it's beautiful. Uh, they got some really cool stuff there in Antigua. It Antigua's more of the uh also like that's gonna be your your uh tourism uh hub, but still a beautiful place. I was up in the mountains translating, it was the weirdest thing. I translated from English to Spanish, and then I had to have a translator from Spanish to Sutu Gil up in the mountains because that's what they speak in in the in the mountains. And uh, I mean, that was the weirdest thing. I'm like, talk about lost in translation. You got a doctor speaking English and then an uh an English native speaker speaking Spanish to someone who speaks Spanish natively and they're translating into Sutu Gil, which is their second language. I'm like, this is somebody's missing something, that's for that's for damn sure. But uh, we made it work, it was good. But I loved it there, it was beautiful.

SPEAKER_00

You are you're gonna remember when we remember when we had Dakota Mayon and he was just about to become a dad, and yeah, he lives in Guatemala, and he was just like, dude, like there's like five languages all around me. Like it's not just Spanish.

SPEAKER_01

Uh-uh.

SPEAKER_00

I never knew that until that show that actually like Spanish wasn't the only language in Guatemala. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_02

You said that about the thing. I thought he was in Costa Rica. I forgot that he was in Guatemala. That's awesome. Yeah, well, that'll be cool. Will you get to see him?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, we're going to like Afetalan first for a retreat, and then we'll see him. So that'll be August. We'll probably be down there. And then August, September, October, we'll be probably in Puerto Escondido. And we're hoping to find land somewhere around Puerto Escondido, probably more up in the mountains, a little bit away from like the hit of hurricanes. Not that hurricanes hit down there that much, but uh we we want to protect ourselves from natural disasters as we build land, right? Like if you're gonna have a farm and shit, I don't want the hurricane to come and just wipe everything out, that would suck.

SPEAKER_04

True.

SPEAKER_00

Well, and Rowan deals with like uh stuff from the humidity, right? So it'd be a little bit easier on him. Yeah, that's what we were we were thinking too. That way we found a spot that's just like 20-minute drive to Puerto Escondido. Because I guess Puerto Escondido, I've never been to Oaxaca uh over in that area, so I guess it goes from like beach right into mountains, kind of like Hawaii. Yeah. So I like that.

SPEAKER_02

That's so cool. I love that. Yeah, you guys are gonna have a good time. I think you're gonna I think you're gonna find yourself uh wanting to stay in Guatemala. That's my bet. Where? Yeah, I'm in Guatemala. I think you're gonna like you're that's where you're gonna want to stay.

SPEAKER_00

Simone Simone's saying that, but the problem is we're permanent residents of Mexico, so it's like, do I really want to do the residency thing again in Guatemala or do I want to do border runs? Like border runs are so inconvenient. Like I think now for there it's six month visas. Nice, so that's not bad. And maybe we get something special being Mexican residents, yeah. But dude, the I don't know, the residency shit's a pain in the ass. And we already have dual residency now, so it's like I think you can get third residency. I think you get as many residencies as you want, you just can't get passports or something. Oh, really?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I know that in Costa Rica, so I was illegal for a while because it's always funny when people talk about illegals in the United States because I was like, Well, I lived in another country and I was totally illegal for a while. And then my wife at the time, what because she was pregnant, she could not she could not leave. She actually, uh, the first section when I when when we became illegal, because you only get three months in Costa Rica, um, and then we got a student visa. But when we when the student visa expired, she was pregnant, but she was bedridden, so she could not go anywhere. And so I had somebody stay with her. I went and translated for a uh medical team in Nicaragua. And my three, my week-long stay there got me three more months, which was enough to be good for the rest of the time. But she was a total illegal alien. And when the when Zeke was born, so this was what, 22 years ago, when Zeke was born, that was when because they were socialists, they're like, Well, we don't do that to women and children. So she got like a pass because she was pregnant, and then because she had a baby, and because that baby was born in in Costa Rica, he was considered a Costa Rican citizen, and they would not deport her because of him. So it actually worked out okay. But it's so funny when you talk about all that stuff, and I hear, and when I think about that and how annoying it was, because like then we went to Guatemala and we took him with us, and I had luckily all the stuff. I just assumed, oh yeah, he's our baby, we'll just go with us. Nope. They are like, I mean, this guy was like, You can't just take a Costa Rican baby out of the country. I was like, look at his face. I was like, his face is my face, his eyes are blue like mine. I was like, look at this kid's face. Does he look Costa Rican to you? I was like, this kid is mine. And he was like, Well, you're gonna need to provide some paperwork. And we had been dropped off at the uh airport. Luckily, we were meeting a church that was taking stuff back for us because we were coming near the end of our time. And I happened to have the paperwork that I had to have to get him across the book, to get him onto a plane to Guatemala. No joke. The guy looks at me and goes, If you come to this airport the next time to leave and you do not have all these things for him, you can go, but he is staying. And I was like, I will have all that shit. It was crazy. I like, I mean, they were like, you did like it's weird when you think about. I remember thinking, like, why do they need all this shit? But now I'm like, well, we don't want people crossing borders with kids and all that stuff. Like, I totally get it. But I also didn't think about like the process to get into the US, and we don't just let you come in. Like, you can go to you, you could fly to Costa Rica today, and they'll stamp your passport and be like, Yeah, you can hang out here for three months, right? You can't do that in the United States. If you come from certain countries, you have to have permission to fly into the United States, or at least that's the way it's supposed to be. Like, if you fly in, when they get to customs, they're like, Do you have permission to be here? And you're like, No, they're like, Well, you're gonna need to find a plane to go home because you can't be here. I mean, it wasn't like that at the border of Mexico for a while, but that's the way it's supposed to be. That's the way it was when I was flying in and out um on going to different countries.

SPEAKER_00

Bro, that I have Mexican buddies who are like, dude, I have my visa is still with the embassy waiting for its stamp. That takes a year just so they can get into the United States. I'm like, dude, that's sad as fuck. By a year, I was already a resident, permanent resident of Mexico.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's no wonder the people who come through illegally fucking hate it hearing how illegals just were getting shit. Like, yeah, I mean, I know that that's not so much a topic of conversation now, but it's no wonder that when all of that was happening under Biden, that like you you think like they were like, Oh, it's racist. I'm like, talk to the people who are not from here that have become like citizens of here, they are pissed off because it took so much money and so much time. They're like, Yeah, do it the right way because it took me forever and I did it the right way.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, my my first wife was from Peru, and we did all the paperwork to make her a citizen. And it was a lot, she had to take tests, and so like there, there's a little bit of taking like offense to it. Like, dude, come on. Like, I get I get how hard America is, but like if you do it the right way, it it's it's still doable, but it's it America does make it tough. I see like Mexico, it was not that tough, right? I mean, we did a lot of paperwork, but you can also get lawyers that like do shit like under the table. You're like, you know, they said that you can't get an appointment, but you slide me another 500 pesos, and appointment ours all of a sudden opens up. I'm like, there, there's like well, it's it's kind of funny.

SPEAKER_02

Like when I and again, it comes back to like a lot of the illegal, the illegal alien stuff. Like, I'm I'm not against it, but I also, when I came into the country, I was like, I'm all for immigrants, but do it the right way. So I had one of my best friends in Costa Rica. Um, he was Colombian, and the whole the whole reason he was in Costa Rica was because him and his best friend came up from Colombia. When they got to Costa Rica, he met a girl and he stayed, right? So when I got back to the United States, they were like, Hey, he was like, My friend is in Columbus, where you're from. Like, can you help him out? And I was like, I'll see what I can do. That dude literally came from Columbia, worked his way up, and illegally came into the United States. And I mean, had like the Coyote, like crossing through the border, like in a box or in a truck. I mean, it was like stuff. He did some crazy stuff to get to the United States. And I remember he was like, I need a job. I can't, I can't work anywhere, I can't do that. And I was like, Yeah, go home and come back the right way. And you can do all that. Like, I was like, I what do you like? I can't I can't help you any more than just go home, go through the process. And that was in 2004. That was way before people were just trying to cross the border willy-nilly and doing all the stuff. It was like, I was I I remember being like, I'm all for you being here, but you came the wrong way, and that's why it's so hard for you. Go home or at least cross over into Mexico and start the process. Go back to Costa Rica, hang out with your best friend, and you know, meet his wife and his kids, and and then go from there. Because at least Costa Rica, you you speak the language, you hang out with people that you know. I'm like, and then if it takes two years, then it takes two years, but at least you're not feeling like you're stuck scrounging for a life up here. I know that wasn't the way the place we were going, but it's like, you know, even in 2004, I was like, come through the right way, it'd be better. It's a better move.

SPEAKER_00

No, I I think so. I mean, and and people make the arguments all the time borders this, border that. Guys, I'm with you. I think borders are fucking stupid. They're man made, it's it's silly, but it is what we have. And so you have to deal with it. And because my wife will make that argument all the time Well, fucking borders shouldn't exist, but also like fucking all the Syrians shouldn't be going to one. Country that are all military age males. Sorry. Like the Somalians shouldn't all just be coming that are military age males. Like we see what's happening statistically with rapes. I mean that the new uh statistics came out for England, you know, something like 90% of, or even high, I think it was higher, 90% plus rapes were not by white Britishmen. And we know Indian, I mean Indians maybe, but they're British. Like the Indians who are there are British. So it's like it was illegals. Germany had the same thing, France has had the same thing. It's a Ireland's had the same thing. They've had uprisings about it. So it's like alright, so am I a xenophobe because I fucking am seeing the statistics and I'm calling it what it is? No, I don't think so. It's like it's time to realize maybe the borders are there a little bit for protection of people, although like that has blended so much that it says like white whites are coming are like at 14% of the population now of the world. It's like it's dwindled down to like we are the minority actually now. Oh, I guess we can feel feel that now.

SPEAKER_02

Is that oh, I feel so good. I feel so good. I'm the minority. I love it. You know, it's interesting that you say that too about the borders thing because I look at it like I'm like, let's take I take it down to like a singular level, right? So anytime I talk about that, I'm like, well, I own a house. I have windows and doors on it for a reason, right? I lock the doors to keep my kids safe. That way it's just not like wide open for anybody to walk through and take stuff. Obviously, I'm trying to create a life and pay for my children, pay for my the things for my wife and us to have the things we want. I lock the door at night so somebody just doesn't walk in and steal stuff. Luckily, where I live, do you know who dad's got bars is? Yeah. Okay, so he uh he he moved to Nashville from LA and he was like, dude, I left my car unlocked the first time, like for the first time in Nashville. And he was like, I was terrified. He's like, if you do that in LA, you're not gonna have anything left in your car, right? And he's like, I walked outside the next morning and was like, Oh my gosh, I forgot. He's like, there was nothing, nothing, nothing happened. And I was like, bro, I have accidentally left my garage door open and my doors unlocked. Like, hey, come in and steal all my shit. Nothing, right? I love that about where we live. Now, the other side of that is it's Tennessee and it's a constitutional carry. So if you walk into somebody's house, you might die real fast. So there's that too. But I always say, like, oh, I put I have doors and locks in my house to keep the people out that I need to keep out and keep the people that I love safe and protected. I kind of look at borders like that in the sense of like, hey, if too many people go rolling in and the it it could like if I just were like leaving the doors up, like, hey, if you come in here, I'll just take care of you. Well, at some point I can't take care of everybody. And I I kind of look at it like that. That may or may not be right, but that's kind of how I usually look at it in the sense of like, just we have to be able to take care of the people that are here and that are supposed to be here, and then we can always open the door and let people in. Like we can always let them in and have dinner and all of that stuff, but it's who we want to come in and you know, it's under the understanding that you're not coming in to hurt family members or steal stuff.

SPEAKER_00

No, I I mean we don't have that problem in Mexico. I mean, the cities probably do, but I don't live like in a big city. I live in a smaller town, and I mean my car is barely ever locked. Yeah, nothing's ever been stolen, nothing has ever been taken. I mean, it's just I know it's I know it's the scary Mexico that we always were told about, but yeah, I've never had that. We we we we it's just it's Mexico, man. Mexicans aren't looking to steal shit, dude.

SPEAKER_02

It's so funny because in coach I remember so people would come by and they'd like knock on your gate. Every gate had every house had a gate, like fence, and every fence had razor wire at the top. And I remember driving in and being like, what is going on? This is insane, right? Every gate it locks right behind you. If you forget your keys, you are stuck. But I actually I left the car out one time. I it was uh I was there on a mission trip, and I had the mission car and I left it outside, and some guy tore off the Honda Accord, like the emblem. Not it wasn't a uh it wasn't the front, the top thing on the hood. The I'm totally blank on what that's called, but it wasn't that, it was the backside where it's just the emblem. He tore it right off of the the trunk, and then he knocks on the gate like oope. They used to say I come in the name of Guadalupe of the version of Guadalupe, and it got whittled down to upe. So they'd be like, oope, and I come out and he's like, Hey, I think this is on your from your car. I'm like, Yeah, I was up in the window. I saw you tear it off of there. I was like, You keep it.

SPEAKER_03

But I just remember being like, Why does everybody need razor wire and and and gates and stuff? Like, geez.

SPEAKER_02

Wait, where was that at? I was in Costa Rica. I lived a lot closer to San Jose, though.

SPEAKER_00

So I was I was by San Jose for a while, and dude, the this is the problem with the Ticas and Tikos or whatever they they're called there. It's like I was they try to rip me off four or five times in three months of living there. Mexico, I've been here two and a half years. I've never, not once, as a Mexican. Matter of fact, Mexicans will be like, here, take my stuff home and then just pay me next week. It happens all the time to us. Like, I'll be like, dude, I don't have no effectiva on me, man, no cash. And they're like, oh, no problem, just give me next week. And you're like, what? And then, like, we didn't have Tupperware because we wanted to take home some uh food for the baby, and we don't he doesn't like it shelled. And so uh they're just like, oh, here, take our Tupperware. Like this happens all the time. You go to Frutaria, and they're just like, Oh, no problem. Next time you come back, just you know, pay for what juices you got. And they're like, dude, what? The first time it happened to me, I thought it was like shocking, and then it's happened now, probably at least 30, 40 times in two and a half years. That but that's it's now it's normal for me. If someone's like, Oh, just pay me next time. I'd be like, all right. And so then you make a good memory of it, like, but that's very common in Mexico that people are just like, pay, pay me later, no problem, no possible.

SPEAKER_02

It feels like uh like old school, like so. Where I grew up was pretty small town. I mean, maybe I don't I don't even know how many people live there, but a little town called Barberton. I mean, it's up by where you're from. But um, my dad was somewhat known in this in the town because he was a pastor. So of the churches that were there, he was a pretty well-known pastor. So I would drive in and be like, hey, I don't have any, I need gas and I don't have any money. And they they would be like, Yeah, go ahead, fill up, and we'll catch you later. And I remember going back and be like, Thanks, and give and paying for it. And now, dude, when they started, I remember when they started making you pay in advance, and you either had to pay, you had to go in and pay and then pump, or you had to prepay at the pump. Yeah, might even have been before you could prepay at the pump. I remember that and being like, What in the world is this? Why are people just driving off stealing gas? And that's I mean, that's exactly what was happening. But I mean, it used to be even in my my lifetime. Okay, so I'm 46, so that's 30 years ago. I was dri I started driving. So inside of 30 years, I I could drive to a gas station and say, Hey, I need this, and they would they would hook me up and then I would come back and pay them later. So I love that. I I just wish I wish we could figure out how to get back to it. I just don't know. I mean, yeah, I don't know if we'll bro.

SPEAKER_00

I think the only way is it burned the whole fucking thing down. I don't I don't see another way. Like, I I've brainstormed, I mean, you and I have brainstormed on this so much too. It's like, I don't see it being repairable. Like, there's no repairing the problem of APAC and all the shit that's controlling the corporation of America because America is a corporation and they treat each person as an asset, right? So it's like that all needs to fucking change. The pharmaceutical shit needs to fucking change. Like a baby shouldn't be born and you're injecting it with shit. Autism rates blew up since vaccines have become this huge thing, right? And since 84 when they couldn't be sued. It's like we were both born before that. We didn't have to worry so much about that kind of shit. And now you look around, it's like, dude, I see it's like every fourth kid fucking has autism, and you're like, they were vaccinated. Every every single person I know says the same thing. We're like, oh, they were vaccinated. You could tell, you could just say it right away, they're vaccinated, and then you ask the parent, were they vaccinated? Yeah. And then other parents are like, oh, that has nothing to do with it. It's just kind of in the genes, like I have ADD, and uh dude, you're just telling yourself the shit that they've told you because it's safe and effective. It's worked so great as a slogan that like you don't blame yourself, you don't blame the doctors, you just blame it on genes, and like you passed it down. Like, what the fuck world have we come in? And then you look at the government, and it's like they make no laws that are for the people anymore. None of the fucking laws are for the people, nothing is beneficial, it's all for fucking the the owners of fucking corporations, it's all for Israel, it's all and it's all for the fucking stockholders. Like, what the fuck is going on? Like, nothing, nothing is good for the people. The my middle class is just gone, defeated. It's gone. It's like what the fuck's going on? And we I remember like hearing that from my stepdad. My stepdad was a bit of a conspiracy type of guy back in the day, and uh, I remember him saying they're gonna try to wipe us out, the middle class, you know, and and at that time we lived a family of five on $55,000 a year, comfortably. Yeah, not that we grew up in a nice neighborhood or anything, but like we had a decent house and it was a beautiful growing uh neighborhood, and we we grew up like loving kids and safe outside. You don't have to worry about motherfuckers trying to steal you or this and that, and it it's like a whole different vlogging. Now, I I talk to people in America, even you, it's like it's so different. It's like this anxiety of fucking perpetual fucking fear is always happening in the United States, but then you come down to Mexico, and it's like Kyle, who just moved to El Salvador, is like, dude, I feel like I can breathe. I just and it was his first day there, and he's just like, I could I could breathe, bro. Like, I feel like I could breathe. Like something just came off my shoulder. Yeah, yeah, that's the attack of fear, constant fear that they keep pushing on you every which way in poisonous food.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, dude. Well, and I mean, I know it sounds crazy to say that we all like vibrate on a certain level, but fear is a low vibration. So if you keep people in there, you keep them low, you keep them from hitting these higher levels of vibration, these higher levels of consciousness that allow us to actually function as higher beings that we are. So, what better way than to constantly do that? Dude, like I find myself more frustrated, more angry. I don't want to say scared because I think mine would be fear, but it's I don't even say it's masked by anger, but it just comes out as anger because I'm like, I'm not actually afraid of that happening. I'm just gonna be a really violent human if that happens, right? Like I saw this thing come across my wife's uh my wife's phone that was like uh something in Mount Juliet. It was like child being shoved into a uh van, right? And I'm I I mean, we're sitting here with the kids having a summer where we're like, yeah, there's no iPads. Um, you can watch, like we're we're doing all sorts of I hate even saying this because apparently it's trending and I didn't realize it. But we're like, hey, you can watch anything from the 90s. We're gonna do it like 90s, like when we grew up. So we gave them walkie-talkies and we let them like I don't let them out front because I saw where like people were stealing kids, just they'll drive up an SUV, shove the kid in and drive off. And you know, and I tell the kids, they're like, Why can't we go outside? I'm like, Because I have to run that car down, like smash into them and kill the people inside of it to get you back. I was like, I don't want to do that, and I don't want to do that in front of you. And they're like, Okay, we'll play outside, I will play out back, right? It's that kind of stuff. But like that's how I answer their question. So now I'm like, Yeah, you can play out front, take the walkie-talkies. You have this tether, like you can go around this, like this like little loop over here. But every time they go, so they take that, and then I've got the I've got the walkie-talkie as well. So that and they just want to play on them. So most of the time I'm hearing them play and they're talking back and forth, and they're trying all the like over Roger that, you know, all the fun goofy stuff we used to do when we were kids. But even doing that, and then seeing this thing in where the kid was shoved into a van in Mount Julian, I'm like, great. So now I gotta think about that. And let like sitting in that level of fear of I don't want, I don't want to make the choice that makes me lose my kid. And I think that's the problem, is that I sit in that, like, oh God, and dude, I find myself like more reactionary, more violent, more angry. Like, I'm like, it's you know, I took we we push this back a half hour because I'm like, dude, I'm working out and I gotta finish. Like, I gotta, I have to do that because it's good for my mental health. Who I do care about the my body because I became a fat fuck, so I need to like fix that. But at the same time, I'm like, my brain needs this so that I don't go insane. And my wife tells me I'm I'm a better human when I do it, so it's it's necessary. But there's all running all that fear, dump it, dump, fear dumping. If you scroll too long, you're gonna be it's like being on the news, right? Like everybody who watches the news is like, oh, you gotta watch out for this, you gotta watch out for that. Like social media has become that. You're scrolling, you're doom scrolling your own like low vibration.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and when you're saying that, it's it makes me laugh because one, you probably already know my son watches only 90s shows, 90s movies, 80s movies. Like he can watch Charlie Brown, the old school Charlie Brown, where they're like, you idiot, and call each other names and stuff. I have no problem with that. And we've used walkie-talkies now for the last two years, and we have actually six pack that the whole family we all have our own. My son is allowed to go a kilometer away from me. And that's the funny part about Mexico, guys, it's like one of the safest countries for child predatory shit uh because children come first. Yeah, is he six? Six, six years old, and he's allowed to go wherever he wants, basically. So I go down to the community center, which is roughly 800 meters away, because I'm ex-military. I like to count my steps and understand. Gotta go meters. And so uh he'll be like at home, I'll be like, hey, can you how do you read me? And he'll be like loud and clear. I'm like, all right, if you want to come down, just let me know. Say, Roger, boom, out, right? And he has to use proper etiquette on the on the radio. We don't call them walkie-talkies, they're radios, just like the military. So when I teach the warrior kid club, same thing. All my kids, like I remember the one father, he's like, Where do they go to the bathroom? I'm like, way over there, across the field, past that building, down in the woods. Not even shitting you. And at first, I'd like kids just go by themselves. And then I eventually, like, within the first month, I already had a battle buddy system. You had to go with a battle buddy, just like the military, so you guys are safe, right? And then I got walkie-talkies. Take a walkie-talkie when you get to the the John or the latrine in the woods, you Roger over at the latrine in the woods, blah, blah, blah. Right? So it's like they're always communicating. So the walkie-talkies work really well. And but the fear that you're talking about, like, I I moved to Mexico to eliminate that. Yeah. Me and you've talked about this before, where it's like, I had a gun all the fucking time on me. My pistol was on me. I have zero guns here. I always carry like a knife on me. I have a hatchet under my fucking car seat. Uh but like more violent than a gun.

SPEAKER_03

At least the gun's gonna end it fast.

SPEAKER_00

You gotta like hack and hack and hack, man. Bro, if I if I go into psycho mode, I have no problem hacking. But uh the the hatchet is mostly for fruit. Yeah, I'm going to get avocados, mangoes, limes, like papayas. So it's like it's it's become more of a fruit tool than it has anything. And and then here I am just fucking not worried about my kids. Everyone knows them right away. Like, I mean, obviously, you know what my kids look like, they're very noticeable. They're curly-haired boys, and they all call them what is it, chiquita? No, um, how do you say curls? Oh shoot. I don't remember now. But they all call them like curls, yeah. Because they're curly head boys, right? And um everyone knows them, everyone takes care of them. That's like the village uh feeling that you get in Mexico because kids and old people are the most important. You take care of the elderly, you take care of the kids. Family is the core here, it's a love. So it's like they live in this frequency, even if they're poor. Me and my wife were just talking about this yesterday. You drive down the street, and how many homeless people have I seen in Mexico? And I lived in Puerto Morales, so this is very poor, but it's the old Mayan area, and there's none. You know, you rarely see a fucking homeless person. Then and then in the States, you go to the States, any city, it's like in abundance. Like, whoa, what the fuck is going on?

SPEAKER_02

There are three homeless people that are like on the street asking for money or something on the way to the kids' school every every morning. Like you get off of the exit, there's one there, you get down to the next light, there's one there, maybe two or three there, and then you usually see them. There was a homeless, there was a homeless community in tents, like a tent city next to a gas station that ended up closing down because people wouldn't go there anymore. I remember like I had had coffee and I had worked out and I had had like a whole thing of water. I mean, I had had way too much water and coffee together. I had dropped the kids off and I had my daughter with me, and I had to pee so bad, like I was seeing yellow. It was rough. So I pull in there, not even thinking. I walk in and I'm like, bathroom. He's like, Yeah, you can't use it. It's not public, like, not public. And I'm like, why? And then I'm like, dude, I got nothing else. So I'm holding her. I'm like, I'm gonna pee in my pants. So I walk around to the side of the building and I just I let it rip and I look over, and there's a shit ton of tents and homeless people like milling about. I was like, Well, what am I gonna do here? I guess I'm gonna finish this off and go home and know that a bunch of homeless people saw me peeing in them like on the side of a building. Like, what's your name? They'll write it on the wall. Like, what are those kind of things? But I don't know. It was it's uh there's a there's a ton of them, and they're like, I mean, it's they're not it's crazy. They're not in um they're not in Mount Julia where I live. They're the next exit up Route 40 in Nashville, but that's where they are in abundance, and it's like that first exit is like welcome to homelessness. It's wild.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, it's it's it's crazy because people think of the states and everyone's like, oh, freedom, blah, blah, like freedom of what? There's homeless people everywhere, it's drugs everywhere, and people are like, Oh, it comes from Mexico. Yeah, by the CIA through the cartel. If you don't know the CIA controls the cartel, that's been like a thing forever. And then here down in Mexico, it's like Mexico and Europe. It's like if you have to pee, you're able to pull over on the side of the road and just pee right by your car. Like, no one cares. Cops drive by us all the time, and we're all just like even my wife will stop and just pee. I obviously, women, you can't see peeing as much because they're squatting in the side of the door. But like me and my boys will just sit on the side of the freeway and we'll pee over there. And like, we're just oh uh crossing streams, me and my boys. But it's alright. Like, that's very you see it all the time. Mexicans pulling over on the side of the road and just peeing in front of their car, behind the side of the car, or wherever. It's not a big deal. But America, it's like the home of freedom. You're not allowed to do that because you'll get a ticket. You're not allowed to walk with an open container of alcohol, not that I drink, or you'll get ticket because it happened to me when I was younger. And then here it's like you can go anywhere, you can have open containers in the car. You could probably be drinking, and the cop will pull you over and be like, dude, just stop driving, just let your buddy drive. Because here it's not like so serious, and people are like, Oh, I'm afraid of the militaries everywhere there with guns, and it's like, bro, I'm ex-military, they don't bother me one bit. Matter of fact, my kids go up and give them high fives, they love them. It's all perspective, right? It's like I mean, just like how you live, you live in a nicer neighborhood, so it's you are at your cushioned a little more than the city. In the city, I mean, who d who wants to be by cities anymore? Like the cities are just becoming smart cities, trash, and it's like they don't take care of it anymore. It's just I'm not sure what's happening in the states, but I mean, last time I was there, I was I was in Atlanta, so it's not like I was in the best city either. But all my people love Atlanta.

SPEAKER_02

We drove to Florida and we have to go through Atlanta, and the only reason I did this was because we were going through Atlanta, is I had a gun in the door and a gun on my hip the whole time, the whole time. My wife's like, Why are you bringing that? It's a rental car, all this stuff. I was like, because I need to be able to like go go from either side. She's like, You're crazy. I was like, listen, I feel crazy. I feel crazy, dude. A guy knocked on the door yesterday, and on my way out, I pulled my gun and put it in my pocket and then opened the door. I mean, I live in a really nice area. I don't have any fear. It ended up being uh a guy, like he was trying to sell me something, but he lives up the street, no big deal. But like, as soon as he did, as soon as he's like, Oh, yeah, I live up the street, he's like, This is how he let me know he lives up the street, though. He's like, Oh, well, you know, we do this with windows, and he's like, You're in construction, right? He's like, I see that you you have a you have a trailer attached to the Jeep every once in a while. I was like, How do you know that? He's like, Oh, I'm sorry, I live in the cul-de-sac up the street.

SPEAKER_03

I'm like, Well, lead with that, bro.

SPEAKER_02

Like, what are you doing? But then I'm like, okay, and I'm trying to like make sure that the gun's not visible and all that stuff. But yeah, I know, man. It's like, I mean, I wish my kids didn't know as much about me carrying because we'll go somewhere. If they see that sign that says no guns, they're like, Daddy, it says no guns.

SPEAKER_03

I'm like, Will you stop talking?

SPEAKER_00

You fucking kids, dude. They they they're the biggest rats there is myself.

SPEAKER_02

I've read me. We go to a hotel. We were to Atlanta and we went to um, I guess, yeah, we went to the uh the aquarium and I had it on, and the uh hotel said no guns. And the first thing they said, the first thing out of their mouths. They're like, Daddy, is a gun on you?

SPEAKER_00

I'm like, I'm not telling. An aquarium's legit, though. That aquarium's fucking nice in Atlanta. It's a nice aquarium.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, dude. The whales like it was funny because we could have gone to the aquarium in uh Chattanooga or we could have gone to the one in Atlanta. And um, and I'm like, dude, there's whale sharks in Atlanta. We're going to Atlanta. I mean, it's like two hours difference. We're going to Atlanta. And so we went there. And that was, I was glad we did. It was very, it was very cool.

SPEAKER_04

Very cool.

SPEAKER_00

It's one of the better ones. Tampa's cool. Uh Tampa has a really nice one, but Atlanta, I think, is top-notch. I think it's even better than Tampa. Tampa was was rated one of the top ones I know in the country. Allegedly. That's what Tampa people say. Yeah. Well, every city, every city has the best of everything. That's right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Nashville's got the best stuff. That's how it works. Best barbecue, best everything. That's right. That's right. Unless until you go to Memphis. And then apparently that's where the best barbecue in uh Tennessee is. But yeah, man, it's it's kind of crazy. I will say this. Uh, they just put this out. My wife has somehow uh tapped into whatever whatever the Mount Juliet police say, like send out she gets. And they're like, yeah, uh 289 arrests in the up to up this point in the year. It's like 87% of them are from like people from outside of the city. Like it's not even residents in the area. It's it's honestly, it's people coming from Nashville out trying to get away. And they're catching them like on Mount Juliet Road out here. I'm like, that's one, that's hilarious. Two, awesome. Keep keep doing your thing. Like, keep keep after it. When we see the police, we saw police over here. I try to take them the kids over, introduce them, let them know that this is these are people here to keep them safe. We were uh we had uh, I don't know, it was a couple years ago, we had a massive snowstorm and we met some friends up at the elementary school up the street, and it's got a like big hill you could sled down. And when we got there, a cop pulled up, and I'm like, Oh, are we not allowed to do this? And she's like, No, I thought I'd hang out with y'all and I'd go down the hill with the kids. I was like, All right. So we had we got a video of the uh of this uh woman cop. She was a cutie. We told my son about her. We're like, dude, this girl was cute, man. You gotta get like figure out how to get into the get in there and find out who she was. We're like, corporal something, I don't know. But she rode, she literally sledded down the hill with the kids. It was fun. So we like yeah, I like having them around. And honestly, when we were in Costa Rica, they didn't have they didn't have police. They had military or no, they had they had police, they have no military. They kind of like they assume the United States will help them out, is what they assume. That's crazy now that I'm now that I live back here and I actually have some knowledge of what it costs to take care of a military and or police units. I'm like, your whole country just planning that a whole other country is going to take care of you. Something goes weird, but whatever. But I mean, they had cops everywhere, and they these cops like I remember walking into a bank. I think we talked about this before. Walked into a bank. The first time I ever went to the bank, and there's a there's a guy with a machine gun on the outside of the door, and another one on the inside of the door. I'm like, yo, what what's going on today? And he's like, This is every day, man. We're here to keep everything safe. I'm like, Well, I'm gonna do the right thing so I don't make you upset. You know, that was my first encounter with an automatic weapon.

SPEAKER_00

That's great. I mean, I guess if I moved here and I wasn't military, maybe the National Guard would bother me, but they're so nice. Like it's the thing, is like they have a guns and the police are here. The police are so fucking nice. Like it's ridiculous. I we've had two tickets. You don't get tickets, you can't just pay them right then and there and move on, which I like because here if you get a ticket, you they take your license plate, and then you have to get your plate back at court. So it's like you it's better just to pay the fucking cop what he asks for. And so it's like people are like, oh, well, that's shady. Well, what would you pay in the states? $150? So paying $50 in cash and pesos is much better for me to give a thousand pesos than it is to be in the United States anywhere in the United States, because now it's like $200. I mean, it was $120, $150 when I was 21, 22 when I got my last ticket. And so it's like, nah, dude. I I like I like the Wild West fucking ways, dude. I really do. And but I will say, the United States, like from afar, seeing a lot of the people like stepping up, like that cop that you're talking about, you're seeing a lot of that come back. So it's like you do see a lot of people like us that are just like, dude, no, I remember when the United States was fucking legit. Like the 80s and 90s was fun, it was felt more safe. Not that I don't know if those statistics if it was safer or not, but it seemed to me that it was fucking safer. I don't remember everyone carrying guns everywhere, and it wasn't like you didn't feel the fear all the fucking time. And the like, you know, like it resonates with people, and then the energy like goes from one person to the next person because it's like they're more in fear, and then the fear just keeps overpowering the positive. But you're seeing a lot of positive shit happen in the United States from healthy motherfuckers and people that are starting to take parenting serious and great kids, and I mean the best homeschooling curriculums in the world come out of the United States by far, and you're seeing more homeschool kids, which is amazing because homeschool kids are easily some of the most loving, well-mannered kids you'll ever meet, and they're just very well balanced because they don't grow up in just like a uh cohort of the same age. Yeah, they're growing up with people that are above and below, and you know, it's like so they learn how to be a real human because that's how humans interact. None of us are ever with just peers all the fucking time. That's ridiculous.

SPEAKER_02

Uh it's insane. Yeah, no, I agree, man. I think there's there's a lot of good stuff coming up. More people have to just start like have to just keep sharing their their life with the rest of us. I mean, with all the information that's out there, we kind of just have to be able to be willing to go. I mean, dude, I was scrolling this morning and I'm going, maybe I should just not be on social media anymore. Like, I could just be like maybe just like light it on fire and be done, you know, like kind of a thing. But then I'm like, no, there's such there's there's people out there that need to hear what you have to say, what I have to say. Like, we we need to hear what good people have to say because there's way more good people out there than there are like evil. And because of that, we need to be sharing that and getting it out there so that people can go, oh, I'm not alone. That's the whole thing, is like feeling alone makes people just like hole up into some place and just be like, I guess I gotta like navel gaze and stay away from everything and like suck, like come down into my own space. And the last thing we want is for that to happen. And I know that the statement is the thing that evil needs to succeed is for good men to do nothing. So if good men will just stand up and say, Oh, this is what we're doing and this is how we live, and we're raising our kids this way, you're gonna find that there's more and more and more and more men and women that going, Yeah, that's how we do it too. That's how we do it. You may find that really truthfully, there's there's amongst what is presumably eight billion people on the planet, probably not, but uh presumably eight billion, there's a lot more of the people like us than there are these these evil shit bags that are doing bad things.

SPEAKER_00

I agree. No, it's it's always what they say, it's like always like 2% of the people fucking cause the problems for the world. That's where all the laws come from, that's where all the rules come from. It's two percent. And so I agree, but the problem is so many complied with COVID. So fucking many complied. And compliance is a fucking cancer. You can't comply, like, you need to use critical thinking and discernment, and like that's the problem, I think. Still is like I look around, and yes, I my social media is loaded with fucking health coaches, fitness coaches, dad coaches, all the fucking, and then truth tellers, so like the conspiracy people, and it's like, so I'm only hearing like the shit where it's like, wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up. You know, here, this is what I'm doing. Positive habits, positive habits, positive habits. And so I'm a little bit different. I think you're probably the same because your social media is loaded probably with a similar shit. I I mean, I look at our pages, and what it's like we have like so many mutual fucking pages, like 200. It's like when you're doing that, that's what we need people to wake up to. All the things you're even like watching, they need to be positive because it's gonna take 20, 30 times till you hear something and you're like, oh, and wakes you up. And then when you start waking up a little bit, wakes up the next thing, and then the next thing. Yeah. They're gonna push that shit, and everyone's like, no, fuck you, that is not happening, don't believe it. Blah, blah, blah, so on and so forth. And it never fucking went. The hentivus, the hentivirus vaccine, none of it. Like it just disappeared overnight. And it's because there's enough people that woke up. So I think a lot of it is we have to stop having this go along to get a long fucking attitude.

SPEAKER_02

Well, it looks like we lost him for a second there. No, I totally agree with it. I I'm I'm out I'm I'm where he's at. Like we just need to have again, more people saying the good that they're doing and putting more good out there. I think that's the that's the number one thing we gotta have. There he is, he's coming back. There he is. Mexico may be great, but the but the internet's not so good there.

SPEAKER_03

I was just about to say the same thing, dude. I hope we're still recording. Oh shit. Yeah, I'm I was still in, so we should be good.

SPEAKER_00

Oh man, I was like, but anyways, what I was just getting to is yeah, we have to stop being compliant. That's it, man. Like, we we need to stop listening to government. We anything they say, do the fucking opposite. They're killing us with data centers, they're killing us with everything, our food, everything's been lies. Organic food's a lie, everything's a fucking lie. So it's like we need to start trusting each other, brothers and sisters, our neighbors, and give back to family first. I mean, and then you're gonna watch out. Fear is gone, compliance is gone, and the government can't do shit, bro. Like, it's the basics, the real basics they took away, and they made the basics. We had to pay for everything water, food, air. Like, I don't know, man. It just seems like the old days just may have been a little bit more advanced than us. Like all the technology they they created this this time around for the humanity. It seems to be um technology that is always seems to be more harmful to humans and more beneficial to the people who are running it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So I agree. Yeah. Anyways, I know we're coming up on time here in like five minutes, but I just want to say, bro, it's just been great to catch up with you first. Two, it's like, all right, we didn't hit some of the political shit that a lot of you guys probably wanted us to hit or fatherhood stuff. Um, me and Nate just haven't got to hang out and talk, and that's kind of what this episode's been more about, I guess. And sometimes it's good to hear the hear the contrast of like living in the states come to Mexico. Yeah, our water pressure's not as good, our fucking internet's not as good. Uh and but our family living and lifestyle is fucking amazing down here. Trade-off.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it's the trade-off.

SPEAKER_00

And you don't want to drive at night down here, you'd rather just drive during the day. Like, there is like that safety. The states, but the states, you do you really want to drive at night, anyways, anymore? Like, people are drunk and stupid.

SPEAKER_02

And if I'm honest, I'd rather drive at night, but that's just because like the sun is always like even with sunglasses, I find myself tired. But if I'm driving at night and I don't have to be squinting, just go really.

SPEAKER_00

I'm totally opposite, dude. I I want the sun on me, and I just want to be able to go. And yeah, at night, the lights hit my eyes, and I'm just like, fuck, dude.

SPEAKER_02

Well, there's less people on the road too. So if I set my crew, especially I'm just thinking like when we're driving to Florida, like if I set my crews for 80, I'll be fine. Like, I'm not getting pulled over for that. And uh, and there's nobody on the road, so I'm just like weave through any few people that are there and and go. Uh it's just I guess it's easier on my eyes, so I fall asleep less.

SPEAKER_00

But I was that way back in the back when I was younger, but you know, now I'm an old man. By the way, it's my name's birthday in five days, June 25th. Yeah, he's gonna be almost 50 years old. I'm finally gonna hit his mid-40s.

SPEAKER_03

46. Okay, I got four more years after after this before I hit upper 40s.

SPEAKER_00

Like I said, I'll be 45 in my solid mid-40s. He's 46, upper 40s.

SPEAKER_03

Nice. I remember when I thought 46 and 48 was old, and I'm like, well, I'm only two years from that. That's great, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's crazy to look back and be like, dude, I mean, it's just different. Like when we were kids, like 40-year-old men looked 40, 50, 60 years old. Like, they look like shit, they're alcoholics. I mean, at least around me. I mean, I didn't have positive role models anywhere in my vicinity.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I mean, this is not offensive, this is not to be offensive to my father, but at 40, I kind of remember how he looked, and he was portly and like he didn't work out, he did like all the stuff. And I'm like, I'm not, I'm not even close to that. And most of the men in my family went that direction, and I just I'm like, I refuse, I'm not doing it. You know, so my kids have a way better physical example of of how to act and what to be like, and they they they got an example. If they want to look at the rest of my family, they got a great example of what you'll look like if you just want to just do whatever, you know, or you can do what dad does and you can look like me. Although, right now, I'm still gonna tell them I'm I'm I don't I don't want to say that I'm a fat fuck in front of them, but gonna tub of goo. I put a weight belt on yesterday to do deadlifts, and I was like, skin was gooing out the top and the bottom, and I was like, oh Nate, you just get back in shape, you you shit bag.

SPEAKER_00

Bro, it's hard. It's hard these days when you're grinding. I mean, being an entrepreneur, it's like it's one thing, and then for me, it's like I'm I'm still the predominant stay-at-home parent, right? Because my wife, especially now, like now she's built this community for women, and it's fucking she hasn't even launched it yet, bro. She launches it in July. She's already had six signups of contributors. So, like, women can come in as contributors, like they bring a skill and they offer their skill throughout the month, and then that's $111. And then for $222 a month, people can sign in. They'll get 14, 15 ceremonies. There's one lady that does physical training every week. So it's like they get a health coach, they get kundalini, yoga, you name it, it's all in this fucking community. So all these women are like, there's nothing like this. We want it. They're just signing the troves, bro. It's like she hasn't even launched, she won't even let me post on social media for her. Because I'm like, this is legit. Like, she didn't do it for the money. She's I mean, she's done everything almost for free for four years as an entrepreneur, five years. Uh, even her books, I mean, except for her books, like she has a book series that's been very successful, but this is like this level. So I pay for maximum time, so I'm with the kids, yeah, maximum time, too. You know what I mean? So um trying to like build something with that, run a podcast and be with the kids non-stop is very difficult because I really want I see what she has in her vision, and her work ethic blows my work ethical out of the water. And I have a pretty high, you know, I'm like doing something, I'm fucking on it. Uh, but she smokes me, bro. Like, you think I'm a go-getter, like action actionable, she smokes me because she also uses the intellect, and I don't, I'm just like, I'm gonna take this fucking hammer and I'm gonna fucking beat every fucking nail I see. I don't even know what to do.

SPEAKER_01

No, I get that. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_00

It's it's been crazy, and uh you know it's it's a blessing also. I I every day, and if you guys are listening out there, every day wake up and find hunt the good stuff, find something good in your life that makes you grateful that you're alive. Because I'll tell you what, like one thing we do in our house, we all meditate together and pray together and hunt the good stuff together. Like, dude, what are you proud of today? What are you what are you thankful for? Is it the sun because we've had rainy days for fucking two weeks because of my rain season? Is it my health? Because my health is better than what my dad's ever looked like. Even if I don't feel at my max, I still bring that like what we are talking about and say, you know what? I'm still doing it. And dad, you could have done better. Sorry, but you could have fucking done better for me because I have bad habits that aren't letting me get to the point that I know I can get to because I fucking have this handed down to me, these bad eating habits, this fucking snacking, the fucking whatever it is. And but I'm grateful that I still have overcome most of those. Yeah, got myself in a good shape, a good enough shape where my kids still think I'm a superhero. Yeah. You know, so it's like life's not so fucking bad, even if I'm not at the physical peak that we wanted 40s.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, no doubt. Yeah, I love that. I love that. No, I feel the same way, and I say it all the time. I mean, it's kind of like a thing for me, is that our self-discipline is the best discipline for our children. Like they they get the view of someone, like they're gonna have heroes, right? I mean, Michael Jordan, everyone like be like Mike, that was what it was back in the day, right? Everybody wanted to be like Mike. They wanted to drain the buzzer beater and all of the things. But like, if you can be this guy, like the superhero as long as you can to your kids, I think that they're gonna find they're gonna find that they want to be like you. And I mean, if you look like a superhero and you act like a superhero, and I don't mean like act, I just mean like and you live a life like that, they're gonna be like, Yeah, I want, I want to be like dad. Dude, it's the coolest fucking thing to to hear that from like I got a 22-year-old, he's had that conversation with my wife, not exactly with me, but he's like, I want to be a dad, I want to, I want to do what dad has done. And I'm like, holy shit, like gives me chills. It gets it makes me sad. I'm like, I got a 20-year-old kid that's going, I want to be like that. I mean, that's the life, that's it.

SPEAKER_00

Dude, that gave me chills. Like, I can't, I can't imagine. My wife the other day, she's like, I don't think you realize how much Destin loves you and looks up to you, and like that alone was like already tearing me up. I'm uh as aggressive as I can be and I sound, I'm like the biggest teddy bear. Like, I I cry when I watch movies, I'm not afraid to cry in front of anyone either. Like, there'll be guys by me like, oh, you fucking pussy. So I can still whip your ass after I'm done crying, you motherfucker.

SPEAKER_03

I can whip your ass and still be crying. I don't care.

SPEAKER_00

But it's like it tears you up, just like knowing you broke that generational pattern, you stopped it. It stops right fucking here, and that's what it's all about. All that fucking hard work, all those nights of sleeplessness, all those nights of fucking worrying about where money's coming, all those nights of wondering if I'm doing good enough, if I'm good enough, that kid says one thing, and you're just like, that's it. Yeah, that's fucking it. I've done it, I've done it. Thank you, God. And that's the first person I think is God. Like, God, thank you. Like, higher energy, whatever the fuck you want to call it. We know something's greater than us. And so that's all I gotta say that end this show. Like, thank you.

SPEAKER_02

I feel like that is the mic drop right there. Like, that's it, right there. Do the things that make you the superhero because they're watching and they're gonna be like you, and and then just lead with gratitude. I think that's massive.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Well, dude, it was awesome, bro. We need to get we need to get back on it, and folks listening, we're gonna try harder, we will, uh, in these tough days. And maybe we'll just be dropping uh no videos and just recording. That way it's easier for me to do it from my phone on the road. So don't expect YouTube's all the time. Uh that takes a little longer for me to load up, but um definitely I think we can do some ones that are just recorded like that at least.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_00

All right, well. See you guys next week. Peace out.