"Lets Rap About it" hosted by Fabolous, Maino, Dave East & Jim Jones

Ep 20: Pimping is Management

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SPEAKER_04

Yo, yo, let's rap about it. Brought to you by Playmaker, presented by Prize Picks, America's number one sports picks app. What's up, my dude?

SPEAKER_02

What's happening, brothers? We back.

SPEAKER_04

What's up, what's up, what's up? Yo, we look good right now. What's up?

SPEAKER_02

How you feeling, brother? I just want to tell you, niggas, there ain't nobody fucking with us. And what we building right now, I don't think nobody can fuck with. The unity that we didn't show, we done led by example. Right. We done show niggas what it looked like for four different individuals with four different lives and four different careers to come together in the band together as men and show niggas that we can do this, support each other, have no egos, and win. So I just wanted to tell y'all that. Thank you. I wanted to tell y'all that 100%. My man May Luther King. Yeah. I want to let that let that be a little bit more. So about it. Because what we do, when we do what we're doing, we ain't doing it. We ain't doing it because we want niggas to give us no reassurance. We ain't looking for no pat on the back.

SPEAKER_01

But that said, we it's time to take the show on the road. I like that. I like that. So we got a live show coming. Live show, June 11th. June 11th. June 05, tickets available. June 11th. Tickets available. We put a link for us.

SPEAKER_02

All midgets invited. Midgets invited. All communities. No, no, no. All communities. It's a lot of communities that we may have offended. You offended a lot of communities. I never did. I never did. We're inviting all communities. I said little people. You're all welcome. You're all welcome. Everybody's welcome. Everyone. Everyone. Everybody. Everybody's welcome. We have it on a website. You go get the tickets. The link is in our bios. Right. The link is on the website, the playmaker. You know, it's it's there, right? We're gonna keep promoting, we're gonna keep pushing. And we're gonna have fun, man.

SPEAKER_04

Get them tickets now, man.

SPEAKER_02

Well, what you think of some of the do's or the don't do's? Because uh, like somebody was like, oh, can I bring my six-year-old child? You think that's appropriate? I think that's a don't. I think that's a don't. I don't think that's don't don't bring your kids in here. This is this is not for uh this is not for children, I would say. So it's not a family show. It's this is a it's a wholesome show.

SPEAKER_04

I mean, I understand.

SPEAKER_02

It's a late night wholesome show.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_02

I feel uh I feel like it's a family show.

SPEAKER_04

I understand you might get caught up watching it with your child, but I don't think that's the same situation as bringing them not to the live show to the live spot.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, y'all playing it with active, huh? Uh-huh. Uh huh. You niggas is planning on getting active. Okay. Okay, look, I'm with y'all.

SPEAKER_01

What do you think, Spizzle? A six-year-old? Six-year-old. I think six is tough. I think that's a little young. But um, I don't think we we go too crazy that people wouldn't be able to bring their kids, but you know, I think it's to each his own.

SPEAKER_02

Right. Is it that bad? Like, like, let's be honest. Do you think six-year-olds could watch what we got going on?

SPEAKER_01

That's why I said six is tough.

SPEAKER_02

Six is young.

SPEAKER_04

We when I was six, I watched my mother and them, they were smoking weed. Six is young. There's too much going on. I've I ain't gonna front. I've had a uh I've had shows where I look and like a dad being in the spot with his son. He might be like eight though, the youngest, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02

I ain't gonna say I ain't gonna lie, I don't want my six-year-old hearing what Maino got to say. Say what? No what he said, they're gonna learn, they're gonna learn they're gonna want my six-year-old hearing what you have to say. I don't think that's what I want my six-year-old to do. What is it that I gotta say? What is it that I have to say? We never know. Exactly. I speak the real, bro. We never ever know. It's passion, it's motivation. You understand? It's the truth. You understand? That's what I speak.

SPEAKER_04

I ain't mad at it.

SPEAKER_02

I hear you. Who could be mad at that? I hear you. Six-year-olds need that. They need it, they need the truth. They need the truth, but do they need the truth that do they need the truth about hoes?

SPEAKER_04

And little people.

SPEAKER_02

You know what? I see you try to put me in this this this this box over here, like where it's like you want to keep trying to create this narrative on the city. I can't even say anything. But but what you what you say, you've you've said some things that might not be appropriate for a six-year-old, not for my six-year-old. But here's the thing you don't have a six-year-old. Let's scratch that right out. You got one? You don't have one. I definitely don't have a six-year-old. Don't even put that out there. I do not have a six-year-old. You don't have a six-year-old. At all. Got it. It's not a good thing. Anything I say on this podcast is because I'm speaking, I'm speaking from a true place. I'm speaking from an honest place. The people want honesty. And I I I'm not saying some wild shit, man.

SPEAKER_04

So don't worry about it.

SPEAKER_02

It's not about the people, it's about a six-year-old.

SPEAKER_04

Truthful place.

SPEAKER_02

You really felt like that?

SPEAKER_04

Said some things.

SPEAKER_02

Not like a pause wild, like oh, everything else, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

I salute. Yeah, my brother. Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Got it. See? We good.

SPEAKER_04

Besides the pause show.

SPEAKER_02

So six year olds or no six-year-olds?

SPEAKER_04

No.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, no six-year-olds. June 11th was going down, Terminal 5. Let's rap about it.

SPEAKER_01

And come through and get to see the energy and get to see the vibe firsthand. Is it a dress code? 3D. I don't I think people should come as they feel. Just come with come with come in good spirit, good energy. You know what I'm saying? But I was. It's gonna be a room of people that's gonna be feeding off everybody's energy. So come with good spirits and good energy.

SPEAKER_02

Right, 100%. But I will say this. Ladies, don't think I'm gonna wear the what else. Niggas can wear the what else is? Don't think I'm going home with you tonight.

SPEAKER_04

Nope. Yo.

SPEAKER_02

That's just my question. No, what I'm saying is this, I'm telling for the ladies. Don't think I'm going home with you tonight. Those are not allowed. But then what else is allowed? Don't do those. Let people come as they as they as they as they come, man.

SPEAKER_03

This is a question. Like, what is it allowed? Like, like is this allowed? Is it allowed in uh is this allowed in us? Is this allowed?

SPEAKER_02

It's allowed. Just be comfortable, right? Be comfortable. If you got a what else, pull up, then is it?

SPEAKER_01

Might have some special uh some special guests or anything. You know, you never know what's gonna happen at the live show. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03

Oh, it's definitely gonna be a lot happening.

SPEAKER_01

Pull up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I will say that you can look out for a lot of surprises. We definitely gonna put on.

SPEAKER_02

I'm I'm kind of excited for the live show. Uh me too. I think we get to do something a little bit different from what people I got a couple ideas I want to run by y'all. I'm scared. What you gonna do, man? No, I wanna I wanna I I'm not gonna do it without y'all. I wanna run the ideas by y'all. I wanna, what you think of this? What you think of that? I think we could do this, I think we'll do this. I think, you know what I mean? There's a couple different ideas, and I'm I'm playing with in my mind, and I'm thinking, like, you know, it could uh be it can be exciting, you know?

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Alright.

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SPEAKER_03

Is there any passion or subject you go to school to get a degree for? I believe Shaq has gone back to school just to get another degree. Uh I believe he's broader than most people with all the money he has.

SPEAKER_02

But would you go back to school right now to say get your bachelor's degree? In what though? Well, you already have that one. I don't have a bachelor's. What the fuck? He knows cut his mic off, please. He knows I don't got a bachelor's degree. He know I don't got a bachelor's degree. He know I don't have a bachelor's degree.

SPEAKER_04

Would you go back and get one?

SPEAKER_02

Yes. I'm pulling up at school.

SPEAKER_04

And what's and what subject?

SPEAKER_02

Subject?

SPEAKER_04

Subject. What subject would you go get your degree on?

SPEAKER_02

Lunchroom.

SPEAKER_04

That's not a subject.

SPEAKER_02

No, there's like subjects. Math, it's like science. Yeah, science. Oh, it's a lot of different science. Okay, I got it. I got it. I got it. Subjects. Science. Science and history. But what's the idea of physics? They just don't have just a science class. They just don't have a just a science class. You'd have to name this the name of the science. No, it's science, nigga. I'm a scientist. It's different science. You have to tell them what science you want to study. Physics.

SPEAKER_04

That's gonna be rough, man.

SPEAKER_02

Anthropology. Is physics actual science or is that math? What is physics? I don't know if physics is actual science or is it math? Somebody tell me what physics is. It is science, nigga. I think physics has a lot to do with math, if I'm not mistaken. Everything is math.

SPEAKER_04

So you would go back and get your degree in science.

SPEAKER_02

You write God body. Science and history. So what's today's mathematics? What's today's date? Natural science. Natural science. Today's date's date is the 19th. So that's knowledge born. That's knowledge born? That's right. Science. Alright.

SPEAKER_01

What about you, Spears? For a degree, I think I would try to get some like business or business management. I think anything you do, just knowing how to work it, work the business of it, is in your favor. I think when we came in a game, you know, you be young, you you you trying to be an artist. Anything you do, anything you're getting into that you trying to, that you're young and just trying to get into, get in that field, you'll you may not know the business of it. You just know the the craft, or you just know, you know what I'm saying? I think as young artists, a lot of artists come in the game. They don't know the business. If we knew the business coming in, we would make better decisions. I think some of the younger artists today get to make better decisions off of uh you know the business, the business moves that we didn't, that we didn't know or had to work to get to, now they could come straight in the game and use them business. So I think just the business of anything, anything you want to do, if you know how to, you know, put yourself at value and how to, you know, especially in this time, market and promote your business. I think business is something that I would want to learn. That's it.

SPEAKER_02

Business, marketing, all these things that's that's taking place right now. What about you, Dave?

SPEAKER_04

Uh I don't know, man. I tried the school. You gonna take basketball? He was in college as well. I I I tried that, and I don't know if I couldn't. You can do basketball. You wouldn't go back? I don't think so.

SPEAKER_02

You can do basketball, nigga. You can do basketball.

SPEAKER_04

That's not a subject, man. It is lunchroom, basketball, that type of shit. That's not nothing you can study.

SPEAKER_02

Right, but if you excel at basketball, they make sure you're good.

SPEAKER_04

That's a long time.

SPEAKER_02

Just excel, brother. If I was if I was to go back to college, it would just be it would be for the sole purpose of me knowing I'm disciplined enough to finish a course and get a degree. And what course you would be finishing? Marine biology. Marine? Marine biology? That's heavy. Is that is that what you just said? Yeah, nigga. I don't want him here. Please cut his mic off.

SPEAKER_04

What you doing with that, Capo?

SPEAKER_02

He's capping right now. Well, I gotta be careful. Marine biology? That sounds crazy. Marine, you understand? That's deals that deals with the water. That deals with animals in the water. That deals with getting in the water. What what what you talking about? What you saying?

SPEAKER_03

I already swim with the sharks, man. I'm going all the way.

SPEAKER_02

I'm going all the way with it, man. I'm going all the way. Oh my God. But why I can't take a marine biology, is what I'm saying. You can, but what do you want to do with that? So I just said it's not really about any course or subject that I'm taking. It's more or less knowing that I could discipline myself to take the course and just have that as a notch on my belt. Whether I use it for something or not, and whether the knowledge is helping me. You can get through the whole course. You 100%. With the professor. Bro, I got my degree. I got a diploma. You got a what? I got a what? Yeah, what do you got? Well, I got it. What the shit? Say the name of it. I got it. I got it. What's the shit, man? Understand that I got it.

SPEAKER_00

What's the shit? I got what I need.

SPEAKER_02

What's the shit, man? I got what I need. Tell us what's the shit. Tell us what's the shit, babe. I got what I need. Let me tell you what I got. I'm gonna be honest with y'all. Please. I got a GED. Okay? I got that from Clinton, from Clinton Correctional Facility. Alright? It is what it is. And I'm proud of it. Okay? I could have been out here without nothing. Alright? I got a fucking GED. Come on. Come on. Alright? One time for high in learning, alright? I respect it. You respect it. And you got what? I respect it. What you got? It wasn't no beaches in the you would understand about my reality. I just want to know what you got though, bro. What do I got? Yeah, what you got? You got a real diploma, bro. I graduated six months early, actually. Just to let you know, I didn't even have to go to school though last year I went to school because I already had my credits. If you want to get technical. Everybody over here got a high school diploma? Mm-hmm. No, you know. Oh, I got one. So I love this nigga. What you got, nigga? He don't got one you said?

SPEAKER_01

Nah.

SPEAKER_02

It's all good. I mean, I ain't mad. Niggas high school dropouts, that's the Brooklyn way. That's all good. You know what I'm talking about?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we're gonna have to go. Biggie talked about it all the time with his raps. I ain't dropout though. We gonna have to help. I got a G D like me. That's right. There you go. That's some Brooklyn shit. I understand. I understand. It's also Brooklyn shit.

SPEAKER_03

Y'all just got educational problems coming up. Like it's like it must be in the water out there. Like you're like, niggas can't learn. Niggas can't sit there to class and comprehend what the teacher is saying. Like, this is fucking crazy to me.

SPEAKER_02

No, because we was you're so good at words. You make music, you write raps, you got like double entangres, triple entangres, metaphors, and you niggas got GEDs is the craziest shit to me. Nah, we was just bad. The richest niggas I know with GEDs. That's all. We was just into shit. That's it. I dig it. It's all good. I dig it, but you got it. We got it. So it's better to have it than not have it. Who am I to cast judgment? Right, but you're trying though. I'm so good. I'm merely stating some facts. I'm merely stating some facts about what feels like a brook. It's like a brook. You on fire tonight, nigga. Just I got it. Don't no worry about it.

SPEAKER_04

You would just you wouldn't agree, Dave? That's what it's sounding like.

SPEAKER_02

We gotta stick together. They want the G D way. Oh, really? Y'all niggas better than you. Oh, really? You niggas is better than us? No, no, of course not. No, we would know. We would weigh it. We would never see that. What did that diploma get you? What did that diploma get you, Mr. David? I got me some Air Force Ones when I graduated. Tashini suit. Uh I got like a thousand dollars, maybe. I'm saying in life, nigga.

SPEAKER_04

In life?

SPEAKER_02

I'm saying in life, nigga. What did it get you?

SPEAKER_03

I'm telling you what the fuck it got me, nigga.

SPEAKER_02

That day was in life, nigga. That's what you got. That shit meant the world to me, nigga. Fuck you mean. All you got in life, the whole for that diploma that you made. You really want to go there? I'm asking you, nigga. You really want to go there? I'm just asking you. Do you really want to go there? Did you get a chance to walk across the stage with a cap and gown in Clinton correctional facility? Did you get that feeling? Did you get the because you I know you don't want to really go there? No, no, it's okay. I didn't, I didn't know. It's okay. It's okay. Okay. Did they call your name aloud? Jermaine Jackson the third? No, they didn't call my name, but I got my little paper. How did they give it to you? Pause. Little paper.

SPEAKER_03

See, I caught that. They be like, oh, I caught that.

SPEAKER_02

Don't say they gave you a little paper? They gave a little paper. They didn't knock on your jail cell, like yo, you graduated graduated? I'm not, I'm not, I'm not ashamed of it, brother. Did I say a little shot? I'm not ashamed of it. How is this a shot? I just want to know what did you get in life for that? Me? Yeah. I told you. You ain't getting shit. You didn't get nothing. You just like me, nigga. How so? Without the jail cell. You just like it. How so? It is what it is. How so? Anyway, Mr. David, how you feeling? You good? I'm great. He just tried me. But anyway. He thought he scored with that smooth shit. He did it really, though. AI being used at graduation to say students' names. So they just use an AI to say the name.

SPEAKER_03

You wouldn't know about they say your name at graduation anyway, so let's skip that. You think I never graduated? You think I never graduated?

SPEAKER_02

Let me and David have this conversation about what it feels like for them to call your name on when you go across the stage because you wouldn't know what it feels like. You just said that. It's okay though. They gave you a piece of paper to knock on your channel. Let me tell you why it's okay. I'm just saying. Can I tell you why it's okay? Now, David, do you can I tell you why it's okay though? Tell him David, as a college, as a as a as a as a as a college college dropout.

SPEAKER_04

Right.

SPEAKER_02

Drop out.

SPEAKER_04

Kick out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Can I tell you why it's okay? Kicked out. The reason why it's okay is because if all those things didn't happen, I wouldn't be sitting right here. So guess what? Everything that was meant to happen happened. Talk your shit. No, no, no. It happened the way it was supposed to happen. No, no, no, no. Talk your shit. Talk your shit. Talk your shit. I'm grateful, nigga. Man, you really want to go there? No. What? You want to go there? Where are we going? Because I feel like you try me to know what you're trying to do. Cut his mic off, man.

SPEAKER_01

Hey, what's up? Let's wrap about hoops real quick. Brought to you by the homies at Prospics. Prospects? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So you at the game tonight.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, game one. Nick's got that win.

SPEAKER_02

Game one. Down from 20. The energy is real in the city. That's all I want to say. The energy feels good. Different. I love it.

SPEAKER_01

That win's gonna set the tone because it's showing nigga, you know, come back, be down, you know what I'm saying, and not give up. And that's we needed that win.

SPEAKER_02

That was a very important win. That first game at home. That was heavy. That could go a long way. And momentum too, because we was off, we were off for like a week. We was off for a couple days, maybe like five days, four or five days. But we coming off a sweep. And now being down too much. It's smelling like another sweep. It's still early. I'm just saying, but I'm going with where we left where we left off at. What you think? We sweeping shit.

SPEAKER_01

Cleveland is a tough team. Um Jack in the sweep. I think they could get a game, maybe two at home. But I think the Knicks are gonna pull off the series, though.

SPEAKER_02

I'm going for the sweep.

SPEAKER_04

I looked at my phone, looked back up, and that's they was cutting that shit down.

SPEAKER_02

They came back though. They did that.

SPEAKER_01

What are your thoughts on a series though? More or less than five games. I think they're going.

SPEAKER_02

Less. I'm going less. You going less than five games? I told you what I'm going for. What you think, Mr. David? I feel like I'm gonna go more. I feel like it may go to six, seven.

SPEAKER_04

I think they're gonna, I think, I think that's gonna be um a challenge in Cleveland. You know what I mean? But they needed that win at home just to set the tone for the series.

SPEAKER_02

So if we go to five games, I win.

SPEAKER_01

If you said less than five games, you only win if they said less than five games.

SPEAKER_02

I thought it was five than less, no. You said less than five games. I just wanted to know the rules. I'm going for the sweet. They got a sweet. We're looking good right now. I feel like more because I feel like they may win a game or two.

SPEAKER_01

And you gotta think the teams at the end of you know the conference finals, they they really the two toughest teams uh of the year. So they they gonna put up a fight. You know what I'm saying? I just think the Knicks got it overall. I like the way the Knicks playing right now.

SPEAKER_02

What do you think $100 will bring you back on the sweep? And I like that you got the confidence. I love it. You know, we got the confidence as a New York thing. As a city.

SPEAKER_04

I ain't saying the sweep can't happen, but I just feel like at this, like Smith was saying, at this point, like I think they I think they got a game or two.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, Cleveland they're gonna play. Y'all gotta come on now. Y'all gotta believe in what we got going on. No, we love it.

SPEAKER_04

It looks shaky, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02

Like But I think we got the morale and the energy. I think the team is roused up. I think the energy of the city, I think they're in that locker room feeling it. I think like it's like, yeah, we got this. So my question to y'all is hypothetically speaking, if we do get past this level, right? That means we got a lot on our side. How we feeling about the chip, though? Or should we not even talk about that yet? We don't gotta talk about it yet, but that that's what you think. Like, we ain't had one since what? The 40s, the 1800s, or some shit like that. Yeah, I'm saying, like you you feeling like it's gonna get done, the job is gonna get done with these group of young gentlemen. 100% since that Easter. It was Jesus was born. No, that's Christmas. Jesus was born when we got a chip. That's a fucking thing.

SPEAKER_04

I think this year they got a chance against whoever they play against. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02

I believe so.

SPEAKER_04

They born.

SPEAKER_02

They can only they can only lose it themselves, I believe. I'm the only one that's going left, so uh hopefully I'm and hopefully I'm right. I hope you're right. I hope you're right. AI being used at graduation to say students' names. How you feel about that, Dave? Graduates were pissed, right?

SPEAKER_04

So it's like shit, that's some robot. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

Like, so instead of getting your graduation from a but what's the well, how was the recording and nigga pressing play and nigga saying your name is crazy.

SPEAKER_04

How was it? It was just a voice?

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It wasn't the skip names they said.

SPEAKER_04

That's crazy. And they skip names and answer the nigga's name wrong.

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If it was like a class of like 500, like 200 names were called.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, and then you gotta wait for all the names to be called like yo. Hey, yo, that's crazy they didn't call my name. What do you mean you gotta wait for the names? Because not they read in the names. That was supposed to be 500 names, so now you're waiting for your name to be called. They read off 300 some names and then be like, ah, that's the end of the graduation. You got 200 niggas, like, yo, oh, that's crazy. They didn't even call my name. Any of there with their family. It might get what kind of AI did they use? That's bad work. No, seriously, it's a different type of A. It was a chat GPT, but it's crazy. Did they use Suno? What did they use? Or did they use like a hologram? Like, is that like as a person's thing? Here's the real thing.

SPEAKER_03

It's I believe it was a college graduation, and we all know that college is a very expensive thing between tuition and shit like that.

SPEAKER_02

So now, uh, I don't know if they went to two years of college or four years of college, whatever it is, there was a debt that was incurred. Now that like somebody got to pay some money. So now you at your graduation and your name don't get called, and you got your family here, so you spend money for the family to come to graduation, and they be tripping at the graduation too. You only get three tickets, all this. Bro, how would you feel? Am I in my cap and gown? Yeah, you can't. You sitting there thinking, you sitting there about to graduate. High five of niggas, you planning out what's going on for the night. It's a lit, it's up. College graduation. No, they're gonna have to call my name, nigga. They're gonna have to.

SPEAKER_04

Who you all you can't argue with the AI. Imagine what men gonna do after somebody. Who you gonna call holler at?

SPEAKER_02

Somebody, because they're gonna have to take me in a paddy wagon. They're gonna take me to the jail that day. They don't say my name.

SPEAKER_04

They say your name.

SPEAKER_02

Oh. And they said we're gonna have to figure this out, but we we can't figure it out right now. I gotta make a scene. They're gonna remember your name one way or another, huh? There's no way in the world I could go out like that. In front of my family? I gotta make a name.

SPEAKER_04

They call the mother's name.

SPEAKER_02

No, I'm not going out like that.

SPEAKER_04

You think I did something wrong?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I'm never going out like that. Yeah, that could be a nasty situation for a black family that came to a graduation. You know the mother is screaming out. Nah, they're gonna say my baby motherfucker. They ain't call your name.

SPEAKER_01

Family pull up, it's lit. What do you think? I don't know. Coming from the GED side of things, they don't say names. Yeah, they just gave you the paper.

SPEAKER_03

Spins kind of sound like he mad at the GED. He don't even want to talk about the graduation situation.

SPEAKER_01

I didn't I ain't drop out of school. I got like expelled or kicked out, kind of sorta. So I just took the GED just because it was what was there. Instead of me going back to school a whole nother year and all that. I just took it and finished it that way.

SPEAKER_02

So do you understand? I've my my issue with school is only behavioral problems, not because I didn't comprehend. Do you understand that I was probably like a what they call an at-risk youth? Do you understand that? Not like I didn't understand the work, right? I wasn't applying myself because I wanted to do other things. In nowhere did you say anything that reflected anything about you being smart. At-risk use doesn't mean that an at-risk youth is smart. You didn't say that. So was that the case? Were you like uh very smart, but I didn't I didn't want to apply myself because I didn't I didn't see the value in school, which is where a lot of the young people go wrong at, is because I was like coming to school, putting my head on the desk, sleeping in the class, bringing guns, bringing drugs in the clue. Like, I was already committed to something else. You see what I'm saying? So if I'm already committed to being in the street, playing with hammers, playing with drugs, school is like whatever. Like, you understand? So. And where did that get you? So what? What did that get you? What do you mean? You actually did my tapoma get me. So what did you just say get you? Oh, it got me uh, it got me uh prison time. Yeah, I bet you rather them Nikes and that thousand dollars, man. And the Toshini shoes, I bet you'd rather that. No, you know, the reason why I don't is because everything happens the way it's supposed to happen, brother. And my path was supposed to be that way. I was supposed to do ten years in prison. I was supposed to go through all that I went through. I was supposed to find music in prison. I was supposed to be in trouble in jail, going through the box, two years in the box, a year in the box, seven months in the box, nine months in the box. I was supposed to do all those things. Man. Yeah. It was supposed to happen. Because those things is why I'm here today. Can I get a round of applause? No, no, no, no, no. No, no. And that's what I'm gonna fall about.

SPEAKER_03

We're not gonna give him a round of applause around him and telling you all the shit that he did bad. That is not a fucking good example.

SPEAKER_02

You know, these fucking kids when you just said, I had to go through this. So you think a six-year-old needs to head? So this is what you want the six-year-old kid to hear that he had to do. This is what the six-year-old had to do. I'm still on this couch with you, nigga. See? What the fuck does that have to do with the six-year-old that might think he gotta sell some crap and get the hand? And that's the thing. He don't have to. You see, a wise man learn from the from the from the mistakes of others. And the wise men is that six or is that a boy? Yeah, you can be wise at six. Let me go to the next subject. You can be wise at six.

SPEAKER_01

Yo, you know what, Jim? I am tight about the GD. Because I feel like I got jerked out of my other place. No, let's talk about it.

SPEAKER_04

I am tight about it. Talk about it.

SPEAKER_01

You know what about it? Talk about the G baby. Because I wasn't bad.

SPEAKER_00

Talk about it, bro.

SPEAKER_01

Yo, I got kicked out of school for being absent. So You was bad. I tried to be slick, but I guess this is what happens from trying to be slick. So our principal put like this uh, you can't be absent more than one day a week for our school.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, I mean, I mean you was absent.

SPEAKER_01

I got you, I got you. Come on. So he he he says you can't be absent more than one day a week. If you're absent two days, you gotta, it's gotta be some emergency or something, or you know what I mean? So at the time my brother's pops died, and they had to go to Ohio to get his whole funeral arrangement and all that. What's that? So I'm home. So now that my mom's and my brother, I was like, yo, I'm gonna chill for two days, cuz you know what I mean. It was like a Thursday, Friday. I got the yo, we lost, lost, lost, uh, you know, lost somebody in the family. I'm coming back with that excuse on Monday. So I come back to school Monday, and the teacher like, yo, you gotta go straight to the dean because you you was absent two days in a row. I'm like, all right, bet. You know what I mean? I ain't thinking that I'm thinking I'm gonna go there and be like, yeah, my my pops passed, you know what I'm saying? So I go there, he like, yo, you was absent two times, we don't allow that. I'm like, yo, bro, my pops passed away. You know what I'm saying? He like, so you stayed out two days behind that? I'm like, yeah, nigga, my my pops passed away. Did you just hear what I said? He said, uh, yeah, but we got a two-day policy. I said, nigga, my pops passed away. What are you talking about? The policy. What are you talking about? He said, you could have taken a day off, but two was a little much. Wow. I didn't even think this nigga was serious. I thought he was joking with me. The nigga was dead ass and was like, yo, you're not gonna be able to go to school here no more. I said, nah, you bugging. What? I swear to God, that nigga said, I went home, I'm thinking, nah, this nigga is a joke. I came back to school like two days later. Like, I'm like, yo, let me go in there and holler at him. He probably just, you know what I mean? That nigga said, What are you doing here? Oh I said, What? You don't go here anymore. I'm like, nah. I tried to go to my class. He's talking about my shit. Ain't in there. I really was so that shit threw me off so crazy. I think his name was Mr. Rivera. Fuck you, Mr. Rivera. Where's Mr. Rivera at?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, fuck you. Straight up.

SPEAKER_01

Spanish nigga, all gray hair. Yeah, we remember you. And that's fucked up because it was. But I was like, yo, I didn't think the nigga, like I didn't even think somebody could tell you like how many days you get the green or like. Teachers and principles. No, that was the only power they had in the internet.

SPEAKER_02

They wouldn't do that right now. In these times, when the teachers and principles. Yeah. Two weeks. It was from a day. Take your time. Right.

SPEAKER_01

What's crazy is I couldn't, I should have gone to my mom's, but I didn't go to my mom's because I felt like I did some slick shit about staying out. So I was trying to, and this is like the last, and I got three classes, bro. I got three credits I need. That nigga kicked me out with needing three credits. So I didn't want to go to my mom's. I'm figuring, you know, you this, I'm in 12th grade. I can handle this shit. I'm going. That nigga just wasn't going. And then after that away. Yeah, my mom's would have raised hell. My mom's is is, she's about it with shit like that. She goes up to schools and flies. I had one of them moms that go up to schools and go crazy. That was another reason why I didn't want to tell her either, because she would have gone up there in 12th grade. Your mom's going up to your school going crazy. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02

When I got kicked out of school, I ain't really had no more guidance. It was just me if I was gonna actually go to school and finish up. Like, so it was just like, yeah, I was happy to have all the credits because other than that, I would have never graduated. Really jerked me out of my diploma, bro. Damn, bro. So you really, you really That's why God made it happen for me. Damn, that's crazy. My man can't be running around. I used to play for time like this.

SPEAKER_01

I had to Yeah. Gotta put that nigga in a rap now, man. Mr. Rivera, fuck him. I gotta find him for I gotta find a picture. I gotta put his face on a cover. Mr.

SPEAKER_02

Rivera, if you're looking at this, he might not even. I just want to tell you.

SPEAKER_01

Somebody knows Mr. Rivera from the old boys high.

SPEAKER_02

You gotta data grieve. No, Mr. Rivera, I just want to tell you. I'm gonna look you in your eyes and I'm gonna tell you right now that you are a fuckhead. You are a fuckhead. Alright? You play with you play with spears.

SPEAKER_03

Pause. That's crazy. It's not a pause. That is, bro. I don't like it. Why would he be playing with spears? Like, come on, bro.

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SPEAKER_01

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SPEAKER_03

You heard about the Swatch watches? Was you interested in one?

SPEAKER_02

I was trying to get one or three or five, but I knew that they was gonna be able to. Yeah, I didn't know they was gonna be pocket watches and then it was pocket watches, but I don't know what's going on, man. Like, I'm gonna go.

SPEAKER_03

Well, they still turn out to be a big phenomenon, man.

SPEAKER_02

Still big phenomenon. You know what's crazy?

SPEAKER_01

When I see them big phenomena, that kind of be making me like off it. Like you see how everybody, people getting pepper sprayed, it's two hundreds of people out of stores. That shit made me not even want shit no more. Like, I don't, I don't, I'm not going through all of that to get nothing. And I don't really feel like the it's just was the hype was made from it, and they thinking now we in this time of everybody reselling everything. But the shits was eye, you know what I mean? Like it wasn't, it didn't even deserve all of that. Well, it wasn't what we talking about.

SPEAKER_02

You heard they're saying it's about to drop again because it's gonna be like accessible. They're not limited. It's not right, they're not limited. Man, them niggas gonna buy all them shits up again, man. Them resellers ain't give a fuck if it's not limited. If they drop them, they come in and get them. But the val if what but if they make them limit, but if it's available, then then the value of it is not as as as demanding or not as high because it's like single. I think whatever they plan was available like night airs every month. Them niggas resellers is coming for everything, bro.

SPEAKER_01

I ain't gonna lie, I wanted the the the AI pick version of them shits. AI pick. I wanted them to be a good idea.

SPEAKER_04

That's what had them niggas out there camped out and all that, thinking it was gonna be that.

SPEAKER_02

Did you see when the nigga was like, yo, I've been on here for five days, and he ain't getting nothing, and they didn't get nothing.

SPEAKER_04

Swatch him! They lied. Any shit lived out of 10. They let this guy go, they let them go, they didn't let us go.

SPEAKER_02

We been out here for five days without showering, you dirty nigga. The people inside the swatch already. I thought they was taking turns. I thought they was doing like the teeth. I I stay with chocolate.

SPEAKER_04

You ain't trying to lose your spot.

SPEAKER_02

Dirt bag nigga. Wow before they stink. And the nigga that was talking, I felt really bad for him because he wanted to cry. He was hurt.

SPEAKER_04

He was like, yo, they didn't let it, they lied. I seen that. He said he caught the buttons from Ohio or some shit.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, from New York. He was traumatized.

SPEAKER_04

He was traumatized. Imagine you left from another state, came out of the swatch stores. He came here.

SPEAKER_01

It was only in the store. It was a limited swatch store. It wasn't at every swatch store. It was limited swatch doors.

SPEAKER_02

Camp one in Soho and one in um. The day they released the niggas buttons.

SPEAKER_01

Also, created hype because now you gotta be at these certain spots. You know what I'm saying? Every one. It was a good campaign, though.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They gotta make them go. If it's gonna be accessible, they gotta make them hit every store. They can't just keep it at them. But imagine sitting out there for five days. Never. And in and now you don't have nothing. What is that about?

SPEAKER_04

That's the worst feeling ever.

SPEAKER_02

Damn.

SPEAKER_04

I don't know. I think I think Swatch and Automar did what they saw. What they set out to do.

SPEAKER_02

You know what I mean? What they set out to do. The employees need to be investigated. What? What?

SPEAKER_03

They put so many niggas on from their family, bro. That's what happened.

SPEAKER_02

Homeboy ain't get through because the employees. They didn't even get in the store. And then the employees got their family and everybody and come down here right now, slide through. I got they gonna let you in. Them niggas wasn't aggressive enough.

SPEAKER_04

You think the internet overhyped shit?

SPEAKER_02

Absolutely, because it showed a fake watch.

SPEAKER_01

And you could pay for that hype. So somebody could pay Instagram and just about it. That week we saw that shit everywhere.

SPEAKER_02

That was good marketing.

SPEAKER_01

I also think collabs be making a hype. Like anytime anything collab, it'd be a bunch of hype over it. Yo, the Simpsons collabed with the Jetsons. Now everybody gonna crave. Like it's just don't. I don't even know what Swatch and AP even how that even connected, but just because it connected, everybody was just hyper. And you know that AP wasn't selling it.

SPEAKER_02

You can't get it from AP. You have to get it from a from a selected swatch store.

SPEAKER_04

Swatch store. And nobody, I don't, I wasn't hearing niggas talking about swatches. So what is it about electricity stuff?

SPEAKER_02

No. Or was it about money? It's definitely always about money because they made a lot of money. I don't know if they made as much money as you would think as maybe for Swatch, yes, because Swatch price points are probably $60, $70. You don't know what deal they did with with with AP. I don't know. Whatever deal they did with AP, trust me, AP made a lot of money. A P probably cashed them out. Swatch got more to gain. The watches are $300, so I would feel like a uh Swatch gain more from it money-wise, and AP game more from it marketing wise. No, but why is that? But they could tell them, listen, every everyone. Because Swatch's watches are naturally $60. Okay, but check it. They sell $300. I want $200 off the $300. Who? That maybe the deal. The deal might have been $800. Okay, but what I'm trying to say doesn't matter because the average AP watches in the thousands. But if you if you're doing this around the fucking country, imagine around the show. I don't know how many you sell.

SPEAKER_01

AP watches maybe a few hundred watches. They could, they could, they could have made a million of these watches and at $300. Nigga.

SPEAKER_02

They might have a million a stash, maybe. And just keep dropping them shit. 300, a stash 3 to 500 because they got one. So they got one with the with the with the dial on top and one with to the to the right, right? Three to five hundred. And they made a million. Think about it. If they made a million. If they made 500,000. If they made 300,000, if they made 300, I doubt they made that much. You can't doubt that. We can find out, but I doubt that's why they're doing limited drops. And they gonna drop again.

SPEAKER_04

I heard they're making the bands for the shit.

SPEAKER_02

This is what I heard.

SPEAKER_04

That's what I heard.

SPEAKER_02

If they make the bands for that, it's gonna be pandemonium.

SPEAKER_04

Like you could take that.

SPEAKER_02

The actual slash band, yeah. That didn't go and it's gonna be. But it still ain't gonna look like the shit we seen on the internet though. It's not gonna look like that. It's not that shit was fire. It's not that fire. And it had flavors. It's not that. But that ain't dropping them.

SPEAKER_01

Nah, why y'all do that though? Why they even did a whole it was just really all hype. Like they could have made that watch. They just didn't they just

SPEAKER_02

Right, but as a man, how do you wear it? I guess you can hang it off your jean loop. You could do some fly shit. Like just hang it the same. Yeah, like we do the chain games and in the room.

SPEAKER_03

Because you can't wear it around your neck. No, I wouldn't suggest you do that. I wouldn't do that.

SPEAKER_02

You can't put it around your wrist. You could put it in your hair and have it in your pocket.

SPEAKER_03

And if you want to tell the time or you want to flash, pull it out like they used to do back in the days. There's a lot of things you could do with it as a man. Pause. Let me stop talking because I don't like talking to you too much. I don't even know what I just said. I just pause because I know this shit kind of been devilish.

SPEAKER_02

You can do what in your pocket? What?

SPEAKER_03

I'm asking you.

SPEAKER_02

What can you do in your pocket?

SPEAKER_03

I can't do nothing, bro. I'm not even getting into that with you.

SPEAKER_02

You had a stalker before? A what? A stalker. A stalker. If you had a stalker that was showing up to your doorstep and trespassing on your property, would you move? I'll kill him.

SPEAKER_04

Target practice.

SPEAKER_02

You kill him. You're gonna kill a woman? A woman? Yeah. Why would a woman be stalking me? What kind of stalk is you getting? Well, I don't understand. Like, what are we talking about? A stalker? I mean, I've been stalked before by women, not by men. I've never had a stalker. That's all I'm trying to understand. So is Chris Brown has a woman stalker and just fuck her, man. Just fuck her? That's it. Let it in and fuck her. Get it over with? Get it over it.

SPEAKER_04

That's how you cure the stuff. That's how you start with it.

SPEAKER_02

It's a stalker, so I don't think it's gonna stop after you fuck her. If you if it's a stalker.

SPEAKER_01

No, that might that's gonna turn the stalker up.

SPEAKER_02

What?

SPEAKER_01

It's lit.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know. I'm not I'm not familiar in the stalkerism. I'm I'm I never had a stalker. I'm not maybe I'm not that important. Do you know the meaning of a stalker? So what? You know the meaning of a stalker, right? Okay, but define one. Like, is it male, female? Is it what what do they want? I said earlier, if it's if it I thought it was a nigga short after my door. He gonna shoot. Blow his fucking head off. I don't understand. You ever had a girl show up at your house unexpected unexpected or uh unwarranted or I don't play that. I I actually have have it happen to you. I rule with an iron fist. You know, I don't play like that. You know not you know not to be pulling up here. You ever had stalker space?

SPEAKER_01

I don't think so. I called a few people a stalker, but I don't think they really were stalkers. I was just they was just annoying me. I don't think I really had a real stalker or stalker. Stalk real stalkers is is crazy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

You didn't have no real stalker in that shit. Like block them a thousand times and they still, you know, should have been.

SPEAKER_01

Oh shit. I had people I text me a bunch of times and you're like, damn.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that's forms of stalking. That's stalk that's a form of stalking. Full blown stalking. Like when I used to come on my project and the bitch be in the in the staircase right there in the first staircase when I walked by like stalking.

SPEAKER_04

That's spooky stalking.

SPEAKER_02

While you in the staircase, you're bugging, huh?

unknown

Yeah, y'all have digital stalking.

SPEAKER_02

I had digital stalker. Digital for sure. No, I had a real stalking. I had digital stalker. She was like calling everybody, like, oh, you over there with my man. What? You hanging out with my man? Don't play with me, bitch. That's my nigga. Calling like women that I work with, like calling everybody. Like, my my my shout out to Steph, that's my cook. She had something on her phone. Even if the number was blocked, we could get the number. Right? Whatever she had on the phone, we got the number. Called it back. It was somebody that was like a follower on Instagram. I had never met this lady. She was just doing a bunch of weird shit. I don't know why. I don't understand. But it was digital stalking. That's a stalker. But she never like came to my like my residence, though. No, that's stalking on the phone and all that. Digital shit just on a DM, that's digital. Calling and all that. Like, but the real question is, is have you ever been a stalker?

unknown

No.

SPEAKER_02

Mmm. Has one of you niggas been a stalker?

SPEAKER_04

I ain't never stalked nobody.

SPEAKER_02

No. Yeah, sure. Let's be honest. I popped up. I popped up at places. This is a safe space. But I don't think that's I don't think that's stalking.

SPEAKER_04

That's all that's on your mind. Like. You obsessed with it. You obsessed with it.

SPEAKER_02

It comes sooner kept calling Shorty and calling from a different number. Nah. That's not really stalking. What? Let's hear it. You called, she she knows your number. You kept calling. And she ain't picking up? She's not picking up, so you call from a different number. 100%.

SPEAKER_01

That's stalking.

SPEAKER_02

That's stalking. That's stalking, nigga.

SPEAKER_04

I don't remember doing that.

SPEAKER_02

No, he's a stalker.

SPEAKER_04

If my shit ain't going through, fuck it. We're gonna figure that shit out.

SPEAKER_02

He's a stalker.

SPEAKER_04

Alright.

SPEAKER_02

That's how you that's stalking. That's a st that's stalker-ish. I've been there with my brother. Like action man for his phone. A bunch of times, man. You ever did that?

SPEAKER_03

No.

SPEAKER_02

She didn't want to be bothered. Your niggas lying.

SPEAKER_03

Nope. Your niggas lying. You on your own capo. I smell cap.

SPEAKER_02

Cabo, Cabo. I smell cap. Cabo. I smell cap from a spell cap. You heard? Like, what's Mr. David? From who? From who? Y'all never call a girl from another number? I didn't say that. I didn't do it. I'm saying you did it. Oh, but you've done it also. Of course, nigga. So what is David talking about?

SPEAKER_04

I ain't did that shit.

SPEAKER_02

You never did it? No. You never call from a different number? Like a block number? Like I'm trying to A different number. That she didn't recognize. Like, yeah, bitch. Yeah, bitch, why you picking up for this number? You ain't picking up for my number. Nah. You never did it? I ain't did that.

SPEAKER_01

I know this nigga never did it. I called somebody over and over, but I ain't never like.

SPEAKER_02

How many times over and over though? Let's define it.

SPEAKER_01

Arguing with your baby mama over and over?

SPEAKER_02

No, not that black a girl. Maybe you're interested or you like her. I don't be that pursuing her. In a relationship. I ain't talking about it. In a relationship. Yeah, like you get in an argument, you can you're gonna call her and she stop picking up and then you oh like hold on. Let me hold your phone. Let me hold your phone, Dave.

SPEAKER_04

That's understandable.

SPEAKER_02

That's understandable though. If you're in a relationship, though. Oh, you talking about a bitch that you met. You just oh ding, like you.

SPEAKER_04

Stalking?

SPEAKER_02

A girl that you meet.

SPEAKER_04

That's stalking if you do that with somebody you just met. A girl that you met, you felt very highly about. And you just blowing our line up on Sunday night.

SPEAKER_02

That's weird.

SPEAKER_04

That's weirdo. That's weirdo shit. You was at the spot.

SPEAKER_02

You was inebriated. Don't do this. You was on motherfucking mushrooms. I hope you ain't do this. Listen. Listen to what I'm saying. She was feeling you, you was feeling her. Mm-hmm. Hypothetical? Hypothetically. You called her the next day, she answered.

SPEAKER_04

How many times?

SPEAKER_02

Called her a couple times. You called her two to three times. She answered. You called, that was Monday. You called her Tuesday, she answered. You like, what the fuck give me my number? Give me the number for. Then you call from another number and she answered. Mm-hmm. That never happened? What you did? When she answered. I'm making this up as I go. What did you do? I ain't making this up as I go. I never said it was me.

SPEAKER_04

That happened to you, bro. You just said you did this before. That happened to you.

SPEAKER_02

You just said you did this before, man.

SPEAKER_04

You can tell us what happened to you.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, bro. I live the life, bro. I lived the life. I've been living it. So tell us the rest of the story.

SPEAKER_04

She curved you.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, word. You see my number that, oh, I call you from a different number. Now you answer, huh? It's a very humbling experience.

SPEAKER_04

See, I think in that exact moment, I don't want to feel it. I don't never want to feel that right there. That little moment. It is what it is. We felt it. Pause.

SPEAKER_02

You said you wanna feel it. Whoa.

SPEAKER_04

What?

SPEAKER_02

I can't live in the street.

SPEAKER_04

I don't want to be in that word. I don't want to be in that predicament. You alright?

SPEAKER_02

So you're telling me that never like where I'm like, oh yeah. Spenzo, you never answer my own.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_02

Like somebody you call from another number.

SPEAKER_01

But yeah, this is somebody did that to me before.

SPEAKER_02

That definitely happened to me mad times. Mad times. Oh, you answered a negative? They call from another number. I got tight. Yo, why'd you call me from all these numbers? 100%. You never call another number, no? You never call them another number? Nah. Oh, fuck you. I've definitely done that. You definitely done it. Definitely. Turn this mic up.

SPEAKER_01

What is it? If you curve it, if you get you know with somebody. So if you go to do that, once they answer, you'll be like, you dirty. It's like it was like degrading yourself. Now you like, you explain. You did it just to see you in the high. Like, yo, let me see your phone. Let me see if this pick up. And you call and she really pick up. You like dirty dog. God damn.

SPEAKER_02

Sometimes I would make it. You might be thinking maybe it's a misunderstanding. Maybe something happened. Like, I gotta call for my maybe it's a bad connection. Something like you try to. My number ain't going through it. It ain't my number that. You know it.

SPEAKER_01

You know it's not. You know it's the curve. The curve feels like the curve. You know what I mean? When the numbers is just not hitting, or y'all just missing each other all the time.

SPEAKER_03

The funny part is though, because you know it's the curve, so now you get the other phone, the call from the other phone, you like, I hope she don't pick up because I'm gonna feel like a deuce, like yo, bro. And then she picks up, you feel like a deuce. Like, damn, I gotta.

SPEAKER_04

You was hoping she curved all numbers. It was just yo, yo, like it was just your name.

SPEAKER_01

That's crazy. I'm telling you, I got tight. They caught me. I've been I've been sh dodging this number for like a month. They called and caught me with some number. Hello? Why you not picking up? Why is you calling me for more numbers? I'm tight that I've even got caught. So I know like that's how you get more madder. Yeah, you're gonna be more madder.

SPEAKER_02

Damn. You get more madder when that happens. It happened to me mad times. This nigga, this nigga called me from another name attached. I don't like picking up no FaceTimes with no name attached. Yeah, I don't do that. I don't do that because it's always a nigga that I don't want to see. It's always somebody you don't want to FaceTime with.

SPEAKER_01

Always somebody you don't want to FaceTime with. You don't definitely don't want to speak to that person. It never been like that. It's 0 for 10. You be hoping it'd be somebody like that. And it always be somebody that you didn't want to speak to.

SPEAKER_02

It's like, oh, what's up? Damn, you don't even call me like that. You know what it was? I was struggling. I'm struggling fighting demons. Going through something. So how do you get off the phone with people you don't want to be on the phone with? I'll call you right back. Let me just call Jim Jones or let me hit you back. Hit you right back.

SPEAKER_01

I hit you right back. You got Jimmy on the line. Most times I say that 95% of the chance I'm never hitting you back. I hit you right back. I'm gonna say it. Yeah, that's how you gotta get off the phone.

SPEAKER_03

So did you give them do you give them a prerequisite right before they hit you right back? Or is this like yo, now I'm gonna hit you right back. You just gonna drive the young. I gotta I gotta yo, nah, when you're trying to get off the phone with somebody, and that's what I took them on.

SPEAKER_01

Yo, yo, yo, let me hit you right back. Nah, this is crazy. Let me hit you right back.

SPEAKER_04

It gotta be a murderer. They gotta be telling me some life or death shit. If it ain't the uh call you back, bro.

SPEAKER_02

I'm gonna hit you right back, bro. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let's call real quick. Yeah. Get them right out of here. Get them right out of here. Because he shouldn't even call in the first place. Fuck you get my number from, nigga.

SPEAKER_03

So what about the people that done trying to hit you and then they see you post on a gram? And you know how the gram you like posted two minutes ago and they try to call you like like like like like bro.

SPEAKER_01

I don't even like if you texting and just somebody just come to you, like call. Like, bro, we text.

SPEAKER_03

I hate that. I hate my life.

SPEAKER_01

I'm vibing somewhere. I ain't even want to get on the phone. I'm texting you. Certain people that you send them a text, they call you as soon as you text them.

SPEAKER_02

We had a good thing going with the text. We obviously was clear with communication. We was getting the calls where we needed to, right?

SPEAKER_01

Like exactly.

SPEAKER_02

Wow. And then you want to FaceTime at that. Like, yo, bro. I ain't gonna lie, I do bust dude with the call, though.

SPEAKER_01

I'm gonna be honest with you.

SPEAKER_02

But it's different. I'm gonna call. It's different. I do bust dude with the call, though. I'm gonna be honest with you. I got to be honest with you, nigga. I busted with the call in the middle of the text.

SPEAKER_01

Fendi is a caller too. Fendi, like he like you text him with Fendi, he's gonna just call it.

SPEAKER_02

Because I need to study you. I need to be like.

SPEAKER_04

What's actually going on?

SPEAKER_02

I need to like look at you and like study what's happening here. I'm so he definitely face time.

SPEAKER_01

His shit be blurry as shit, too. Then when we're on that zoom, yeah. Main shit before Wi-Fi. What the fuck? Yeah, he needed a new phone for that one. You try to go to the phone store and use their Wi-Fi. Obama smartphone. Try to use ATT Wi-Fi. It's even that you didn't pay the bill. What did it say?

SPEAKER_02

It ain't had nothing to do with the bill, nigga. I had a s I had a crack screen. No, no, no. No, it don't na na na. It is what it is. We we s we we cut the screen. It looked cracked to us. That's what happens. It's blurs, it blows a camera when you crack the screen. It blows the camera. You understand? But what happened with the Wi-Fi? So what? Was it the screen? We ain't had no problem on the Wi Fi.

SPEAKER_04

Nobody. Crack the nut.

SPEAKER_02

So was it the bill or was it the crack screen? I see you nigga on the one.

SPEAKER_03

Was it the bill or the crack screen? That's what we're trying to figure out. Because if it wasn't the Wi-Fi.

SPEAKER_02

Let me tell you about me though. I play, I play fair. That's all good. I get it. You tried me.

SPEAKER_00

You tried me.

SPEAKER_02

This segment is a power move brought to you by Morgan and Morgan. As a vet in the business with a lot of experience, would you ever manage a new artist?

SPEAKER_04

Manage?

SPEAKER_02

Manage new artists.

SPEAKER_04

Um, I don't think so.

SPEAKER_01

No, me either. I feel like a manager, being a manager is such a selfless job. You gotta put yourself on the line for somebody else. 24-7 damn near. And then the artist could just be like, all right, I wanna go to get a new manager. It's like it's not a lot of security in it to me, and it's like you gotta put a lot of your yourself in it. And not saying that an artist shouldn't ever switch managers, but I just feel like it's a a job that you know, you could build an artist and take them to a different, you know, level on a management side. Artists do it, artists to artists all the time, labels do it, but like from a manager side, like you dealing with a lot of their day-to-day stuff that they they encounter, so you know, and you putting that before yourself. And um I'm definitely not putting it before myself.

SPEAKER_04

I look at it like it in that position for me it is more like a um it's like it, it's like that coach. You know what I mean? Like that might have been your AAU coach or your the the coach in the in the in the in the in the rec gym or whatever that might have trained you three, four summers, or whatever. But he knows he not if you do go or whatever, he might not go as far as you're gonna go, but he has something to do with sharpening your talent or some shit like that. I think you gotta wanna do that. Yeah. Like you were saying, it's selfless. So that's something you gotta say to yourself. As me, if I was gonna say I'm gonna be a manager, I wouldn't think about um my my shine in that situation. Or my you know what I mean? It's more like at all. You know what I mean? It's more like, all right, if I'm gonna if I'm gonna sign up for this, it's all about helping this artist out, getting this artist to the next level. Now, if that artist decides to keep fucking with me or leave me alone, that's up to them. But I think I don't got the mindset to do no shit like that. You know what I mean? Where I'm where I'm just like, unless it's one of the bros. Like, it gotta be somebody I really already got a relationship with. If it's somebody I don't know out the blue, and I'm just I'ma do music and I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

Management is tricky too because somebody might feel a way when you first start, you know, artists when you first start managing them at the beginning, they kind of like just doing whatever you say because they don't really know. So either they get to learn or they, you know, somebody could get in their air along the journey, whatever it is. Like that's why I said the just the management position to me is not a secure position. So it's not something that I would really want to be.

SPEAKER_02

Being a manager is definitely a job that has a lot of sacrifices, and you gotta be a person that loves to give. I mean, and be selfless in a lot of ways. And those kind of things that I've been doing since the beginning. Before I started doing music, I did a lot of the management for the whole diplomat situation and shit like that. I mean, I catered to what we needed to get us off the ground. And I think even now, with the way that I set my distribution label up, because management is a bit of daycare. It's definitely babysitting people, and I'm not here to do be babysitting, but I I feel that I still I do like crowd management now. Like I kind of just kind of give people a sense of what they need to be doing in the midst of everything I'm doing inside of this situation and shit like that. Cause a lot of artists they need guidance, and I that's what I that's what I know. I don't have the time to actually manage people the day-to-day and things like that. But the guidance I can't give them, I still feel like it's a bit of management. It's kind of what I do here.

SPEAKER_01

Advice or any guidance you give is definitely helping somebody manage their situation. So I definitely, it's not like like you said, it's not a manager, like they day-to-day. Right. But if you know, artists come to talk us. Even what you saying, what you did in the dipset time, is like you did a lot of things for a lot of the artists that was under the brand and just making sure things get done without being the artist. You know what I'm saying? So that was managing that too. It's a it's a it's a real, it's a job. It's a time it's a time consuming job.

SPEAKER_02

You definitely gotta take yourself out the picture. You know that you gotta put other people before you, like Spears was saying, and shit like that. But that was something that I felt good at doing because I knew where we were going when we was coming up as dipset. Like that's that's that's what I was there for. And then I gradually learned how to do the music from watching these niggas starting to make all type of money after we kind of made our way and shit like that. So I turned myself from doing a lot of the business and management into becoming an artist and shit like that. And all the knowledge that I've took for managing others at that time, I kind of put it around myself and to help myself become an artist and shit like that. I would say if it's a female artist, don't fuck her. I was I would say that. I would say that he always got the best advice. Don't fuck the female artist as a man as a manager, you would say as a manager. That's because the lines get blurred. A manager, the minds get blurred.

SPEAKER_01

A manager.

SPEAKER_02

No, I'm saying as a manager. Like, don't fuck the female artist.

SPEAKER_01

You've had you had a bad experience with that.

SPEAKER_02

So what?

SPEAKER_01

You had a bad experience with that? How do you know that's not the way to go? Trying to be a manager.

SPEAKER_02

I just seen that yeah, my personal endeavors, I seen that relationships change and it becomes more strenuous and stress, stressful when you're trying to balance music, career, life, and you're in a situation where you're trying to guide a young female through her career as a manager and the lines end up crossing.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Once you end up managing the pussy, that is a different thing. You're not managing the artist.

SPEAKER_02

No, it wasn't that. I've I've I've crossed a lot of lines. I've crossed lines. I'm just I'm a line crosser, obviously. Right? Uh all I'm saying is that once the line is crossed, it's like no man's land. Right?

SPEAKER_04

It's like no man's land.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, like you can't get that back. Right? It's like it's okay. I'm trying to manage your career, I'm trying to talk music, or I'm trying to just work with you. It could just be even work. And then it's like, I'm trying to work, I'm trying to talk music with you, you asking me about bitches. You're talking to me about bitches, and then we just trying to work.

SPEAKER_01

At the time when it happened, did you think it would be helpful? Did you think like, if I knock this down, that'll help my career.

SPEAKER_04

Help her career, help her career.

SPEAKER_01

Anybody's career. What about my career? Yours, hers, the biggest. You think it would help it?

SPEAKER_04

You if you're trying to manage it, you think it would you would try it was a little bit more.

SPEAKER_02

Basically, I was under due rest. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Thought it would help. You thought it would help. I thought it would help. You found out it doesn't. It didn't help it the hard way. I learned to learn the hard way. Well, if you if you if you found yourself in that situation again. I just told you, if it's female, don't fuck the female artist. I'm saying, what would you do if you found yourself in that situation again? I wouldn't do it. What? I say I wanted to find out what would you do. No, I'm saying don't do it. I wouldn't do it. Okay. Don't do it. That's fair. I wouldn't do it.

SPEAKER_04

You wouldn't manage or you wouldn't knock it down.

SPEAKER_02

I should probably not even be working with it.

SPEAKER_01

And if you're managing it, you shouldn't be knocking it out.

SPEAKER_02

Well, you're going to say, can you manage an attractive female? A baddie. Can you manage one of those? Can I do it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Without what? Without fucking it.

SPEAKER_04

No, I'm not gonna.

SPEAKER_03

I'm talking about a baddie.

SPEAKER_04

Look at that nigga face.

SPEAKER_03

Something in your favor. Your style. Like, damn, these are the type of girls I like.

SPEAKER_02

You think it on it? No, you added extra shit, though. I'm just saying. You don't want me to say no.

SPEAKER_04

You thinking on it, bro?

SPEAKER_03

Because you said you wouldn't do it, so I'm just trying to say, if that's the case, I want to know if you wouldn't do it under these circumstances.

SPEAKER_02

Pain. Man, she's pain. Pain. I'm getting 20%. What I'm getting?

SPEAKER_04

I don't know what y'all negotiate. Okay, got it. You just the manager.

SPEAKER_02

I'm the manager.

SPEAKER_04

She's paying. Pain.

SPEAKER_02

She got a man? We don't know. Does that matter in this equation? I'm just, I like to know all the variables, bro. Because if you manage your man.

SPEAKER_04

She don't got a man. She's single.

SPEAKER_02

And she hanging out with me?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, and she's paying. But she's but she she thinks she's hanging out with you. She's working with you because you're supposed to be helping her career.

SPEAKER_02

I'm managing her. You're supposed to be connecting.

SPEAKER_04

You're supposed to be connecting the dots for her. Got it. Getting her in the moves.

SPEAKER_03

And now you're on promoter, so now you're down in Atlanta and you took her around and this is the problem.

SPEAKER_02

You know, most man managers in this situation were sleeping with a woman. You do know that. Like the manager of groups. You know, we're talking like Lauren and Wildclass. We talking all like everybody that had artists that was in a group, manager, they always started the huh?

SPEAKER_03

You always seem to go a little bit.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, would you consider a pimp a manager? A pimp?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, pimp is a manager.

SPEAKER_04

They manager.

SPEAKER_02

You would call a manager a pimp? He's managing. So a pimp is a manager. A pimp is a defin is definitely a manager. Definitely a manager. That's a fact. It's in the books.

SPEAKER_04

On the blade.

SPEAKER_02

So pimping is management. Pimping is definitely managing management. They need direction and correctioning, bro.

SPEAKER_01

That's the title of this episode.

SPEAKER_04

They need direction and correction.

SPEAKER_02

So now when I go to the hotel and I ask to speak to management, I'ma say, I need to speak to pimpin'. You wouldn't be going to the hotel. I need to speak to management. If pimping is management. If a woman has a pimp, she's being managed. She's being managed. That's a fact. That's a fact.

SPEAKER_01

That's another way of managing a pussy.

SPEAKER_02

You heard what he said?

SPEAKER_01

I can definitely manage a pimp. Maybe that's the title of this episode.

SPEAKER_02

Managing a pussy.

SPEAKER_04

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

But all I'm saying is it. I can't live with that. That's a fact. You do understand that.

SPEAKER_04

Then no six-year-olds could have a lot of things.

SPEAKER_02

You do understand that though, right?

SPEAKER_04

I don't think, I don't think pimping is management.

SPEAKER_02

What what do you think pimping is?

SPEAKER_03

Oh, we want to put that in that category. We gotta have somebody here to say, so what is management?

SPEAKER_02

Define management then.

SPEAKER_03

Define pimping. Define pimping, baby.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, nigga, define it.

SPEAKER_03

Define that.

SPEAKER_02

Define it.

SPEAKER_03

The iceberg slim definition.

SPEAKER_02

Management. Management. She needs direction and correction.

SPEAKER_03

I never heard a pip say, bitch, I'm your manager. Where's my thing doing? Where's my man? Where's my management fee?

SPEAKER_02

Y'all not recognize that his actions are managerial. This is Silky Slim. Where's my management? Where's bitch? Managerial. Bitch, where's my management fee at ho? Like your vocab. He don't gotta sell that, bro. That's what I'm saying. Like he was right. It's a managerial situation.

SPEAKER_04

Hoes ain't artists neither.

SPEAKER_02

Right. Wow. So Pimpson managers and hoes ain't artists. This is crazy. Where are we going with this?

SPEAKER_03

Wait a minute. Why hoes is not artists? That makes you feel like a hoe is not an artist.

SPEAKER_02

A couple of artists we know is hoes, but we'll leave it at the end of the day.

SPEAKER_03

Have you tried to try to turn a hoe into an artist?

SPEAKER_02

Or artist to a hoe?

SPEAKER_04

I feel like an artist doesn't need a manager.

SPEAKER_02

Artist does need a manager.

SPEAKER_04

You don't, you don't need one.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you do.

SPEAKER_01

I think you do. If you at a certain level, you're gonna need to. Yeah, artist needs a manager. Yeah, yeah. But you don't need a phone.

SPEAKER_04

But everything.

SPEAKER_02

To to help you.

SPEAKER_04

Do a hoe need a pimp, no?

SPEAKER_02

A hoe could be a hoe on her own on her own. Do her own. But if she needs a cookies on her.

SPEAKER_04

But to be directed and corrected. Right.

SPEAKER_01

She needs a pimp. You can't have direction and correction without a pimp. Without the pimp.

SPEAKER_04

It's just one eight hundred main though, pimping 101.

SPEAKER_02

That's not pimp. I'm not a pimp. You said you was a manager. He's a manager. I ain't never said I was a man. I was a manager. I never said I was a manager. Why are you putting what's up with you, bro? I never said that.

SPEAKER_03

You just went through a whole elaborate story about how you try to manage a female engine over something like pimp.

SPEAKER_02

I never said that. Something like pimping. I never said that. I'm saying I'm I understand. I get it. You can sympathize. I understand. I get it.

SPEAKER_01

Two pimps. Yeah. He had a pimp assistant too. He had an assistant. Assistant pimp. The assistant pimp was crazy. He used to sprinkle the baby powder on his hand. We're gonna find a pound line of assistant powder.

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SPEAKER_03

Damn. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

A little disrespect for some go-go. I'm going with the discount. Take a little disrespect for some go-go. Give me crazy. Fuck it.

SPEAKER_01

Disrespect this dick, real quick.

SPEAKER_04

I'm going with the disrespect. I'm going more and more and more on the disrespect.

SPEAKER_02

This is what I would tell you though, sir. We already know that you like the one that's disrespectful, but it's the other one that you said that the head game is weak. But it's it has to be something that you like about her that you still keep in her. She's peaceful. She's not. She's not a few. She's not the crazy ass. She might got the crazy ass polite with the city. She's polite. She's probably the one. Nah, he's saying it right.

SPEAKER_01

He said she's very sweet, polite, and respectful. There you go. So when I'm telling you what I would say, she's a good woman. She's probably a good woman. You're a good woman.

SPEAKER_02

If you're talking to me and you ask me like there, what would you do, Maino? I would sit both of them down and tell them that I can't be without both of them and I need both of them. That's what I would do. I don't know if you on that level.

SPEAKER_03

You gonna assist what they call them, sister what?

SPEAKER_02

Sister what? You're gonna sister what? What I'm saying to you is this you in a very, very positive situation, young man.

SPEAKER_01

You gotta be a manager or a pimp. You gotta manage that. You gotta manage the position. You manage the situation. Manage the guac 3000.

SPEAKER_03

I don't, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know what I don't I don't I don't I don't know. You don't know what he could put them together. It could be a team effort, it could be a team.

SPEAKER_04

Because the disrespectful one could put the the nice one on about the eats. They both and then the nice one could put the disrespectful one on about how to how to talk to the other.

SPEAKER_02

It probably would not go that way. I mean, the nice one might learn some tricks from the disrespectful one, but the nice one is gonna also become disrespectful. No, that's not true. You seen that Eddie Murphy role. That's not true. You heard that bitch came from Africa with bones in her mouth, and the next time she was like, Why you treat me so bad? Eddie, like, stop playing, man. What is he talking about? You know what, you know what's gonna happen in that situation?

SPEAKER_03

All over the house, you heard?

SPEAKER_02

They both, they both gonna appre like it's gonna accommodate each other. You got one that's left, you got one that's right. You got one that's hot, you got one that's cold. And then you put them both together and you got a perfect. He just said she don't got a good head game. We don't know what the rest of what she what the uh she might. She's good at other things though. But nurturing, and being sweet, at being thoughtful, at being responsible. That counts.

SPEAKER_01

She's a good one. But the hair is so trashy, has to be a little bit more.

SPEAKER_02

This one is actually the pretty one, and then the other one is actually a dog faced one that got some crazy head. It don't matter, because you know what? Because she needs one to be nasty, and you need one to be able to carry and hold down the household, bruh. You getting the groceries, you're responsible, you checking on what we got going on, like you a solid woman. You sound like a manager. I'm managerial. I'm six I'm managerial. I'm managerial, you know. I'm managerial, definitely public relations, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm saying, like, it it's add manager to the name.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, manager. Add manager to the list of names. So where are we at?

SPEAKER_02

May Luther King. Man Luther King, insane. Carmeno Anthony. Insano Insano Maniac. Maniac. Right. And uh what we just call it. Nota scientists, Maino Scientists, and what's what's this one today?

SPEAKER_04

Manager.

SPEAKER_02

The manager. Yeah, yeah, pretty much. Put put them on the list. The t-shirts got the t-shirts will be at the live show. Yeah. Live show June 11th. You already know what it is. You already know what it is. Playmaker, Patreon, you know what it is. Live show, man. That's my slogan. Playmaker. Say what? I said my slogan. Shouts the playmaker because the plays don't get made, unless then we don't get paid. You heard?

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Like, comment, and subscribe. We out.

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Let's rap about it, rap about it.

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Let's rap about it, rap about it.