SPEAKER_03 0:00

It's four years after 9-11. Miss Pr has been fired because at this point because of 9-11, not because of 9-11, not because of 9-11, because she had told uh her classes about sexual um her sexual habits at home. She talked about being Were you in that class? I was. She talked about being, quote, railed on a glass uh dining room table. I swear to God. I swear to God. Railed. Railed is the quote. I'll never forget that. This is another thing. What? Wait, okay. She wasn't Jewish. She wasn't Jewish. So I don't think she's not different. She came from a different thing. What was the story? Jews don't rail or get railed. It's very different. The non-Jewish culture around sex is very different. It was right, it was right around 9-11. So it's it's not impossible that it was just like she just was confused. She didn't reaction she didn't know what was going on.

SPEAKER_02 0:56

It was a stress reaction, it was a trauma-based reaction. If a teacher was fired, like to me, a teacher left. And when I was in school, a teacher left, I had no idea if they left or if they were fired. I feel like you actually were getting railed. Or if they were getting rail. You have one. Um I feel like you actually know like pretty much why every teacher got fired. Like you're talking about me personally? Yeah. No, I just like had your finger on the pulse of beating.

SPEAKER_03 1:24

I was very interested in the La Shonara surrounding like why teachers were were uh ceremoniously or unceremoniously dismissed.

SPEAKER_02 1:32

Now, this what are two other teachers who got fired and you know the reason why? And also, is there a pun on the term LaShon Hara that we could use for just like a beat? LaShonne hurrailed.

SPEAKER_03 1:43

I mean, you you need someone that's quick. You have Justin on your show. Yeah, LaShon Herrailed is really good. I I don't think it's gonna get beat by it. Episode title, you know. That's the episode title, LaShonne Herailed. That's so good. That's a nice episode title.

SPEAKER_02 2:00

Oh man. Now they all have to have nice episode titles. How what was the railed teacher's name?

SPEAKER_03 2:08

Miss Hell She was fired because of that.

SPEAKER_02 2:11

That I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How did that like what how did that come up?

SPEAKER_03 2:17

Like what in class she was we were taught, we she would ask us, so I'm in ninth grade, and I have I I'm the furthest person in that class from having ever been in a relationship of any kind. So I contributed not at all to this, but she used to ask kids in the class because she was younger. So she would do that thing where she's like, ooh, like is anyone like is anyone in the class dating someone else in the class? Anyone getting railed? Anyone getting railed? Anyone getting railed? So she would she would just talk about like relationships in the class, which made me really uncomfortable because I felt really insecure about not being in a relationship. I mean it's making me uncomfortable now. And also don't talk about that with a bunch of ninth graders.

SPEAKER_00 3:05

Do you think she was just misinterpreted or that's a good question?

SPEAKER_03 3:10

Do I think that when she said I was getting railed on a coffee table, on a glass coffee table, can't forget that detail, that she was didn't mean sexually railed.

SPEAKER_00 3:23

Like what did she say? And how did she say it?

SPEAKER_02 3:26

She said I was getting she she was talking about her boyfriend. I keep going from like A to D. I want to do B and C. Okay. I mean, she I I definitely So you were talking about she was talking about relationships. She was talking about relationships.

SPEAKER_03 3:39

She would ask people about relationships, and people would like the cooler kids in class who were sucking and fucking or whatever would be like, you know, in a they're like, oh, she's a young teacher, she's, you know, uh like I they felt like I guess they could talk with her in a in a in an adult kind of way. And so they would talk about, oh yeah, like I heard it would be like rumor stuff, like, oh, like, yeah, you know, I heard that this this guy got head from this girl or something like that. And then she would, you know, she'd she would throw in a oh, like last night, you know, I got railed on a glass coffee table. And I'm sure that there were people in the class that were like, oh, she's cool.

SPEAKER_02 4:22

And I was just like, Yeah, I used to have this class. It was like such a bullshit class called like oh man, it was actually history of Israel. No, no, no, it was called pop. I think it was pop culture. I think that was the class. Was that Steinberg? Mrs. Steinberg. Yeah, Steinberg.

SPEAKER_03 4:38

Never took that, but I heard that class was just such a joke.

SPEAKER_02 4:42

Insane. Yeah. The one and I don't know how this came up. I forgot what the term for it was, but someone was telling a story about, oh, this other school. They have these parties where each girl the popsicle. Oh, rainbow. Each girl has a different rainbow, and you try to get your your dick to be the full rainbow. They were different colored lipstick. Yeah. Oh, it was lipstick. No, it was popsicles. No, it's what would that mean?

SPEAKER_03 5:12

Let's just talk through that for a second.

SPEAKER_01 5:14

What would that mean if popsicles? I would have that association too, but yeah, no, it's definitely like lipstick. It's that your dick looks like the type of popsicle.

SPEAKER_02 5:22

Oh, I thought they were having that rainbow popsicle. I'll tell you my logic. I don't think that's that insane. No, no, I'm just curious. Actually work. I don't think this would work on a dick. You don't think blunt would work on a dick. What I'm about to say. Okay, okay, okay. Let's hear it. Let's hear it. So each each girl, and I'm gonna say it nice and slow, just so it can be sexy. That makes me uncomfortable. Okay, gosh. Each girl has a different popsicle, which is a different color. You know, when you when you are licking or sucking on a popsicle, your mouth basically, the inside of your mouth changes that color. Right? Permanently.

SPEAKER_03 6:04

Forever.

SPEAKER_02 6:04

So then I was like, okay, they go from that to a blowjob. That transfers to color. And that color, if a girl is having a lime popsicle. Let's say a girl had a lime popsicle. That would mean. I'm also now realizing just the literal thing with the lipstick. Like, so that means okay, one girl gets the all the way in the back, right? Is this how it works, also?

SPEAKER_03 6:30

Like, why do you have to look I don't think these were real? Let's get that out of the way. I don't think this ever happened in human history. That was the next thing. But go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 6:47

Yes, sure. So what I was picturing was like it doesn't make sense. Different swatches of colors, like you know, like uh like a pattern or a sequence are on a guy's dick, right? Yes, I think that's the one. Like in the very back, it would be like green. And then the next back. Back. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 7:07

Yeah. Back is not anatomically the right term, my man. Your dick doesn't like detach.

SPEAKER_02 7:15

It's like a uh the part near the the balls. I don't know what you would say. You're thinking of how about the base?

SPEAKER_03 7:24

How about the base of the shaft? How about the base of the shaft? The base of the shaft is one color. I really as you work your way into the shaft.

SPEAKER_01 7:31

The weeds of this.

SPEAKER_03 7:32

This is biology, baby.

SPEAKER_02 7:34

This is ninth grade territory. So, all right, let's just say my arm's a dick. How about that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's say right here would be green, then red, then yellow, uh-huh and blue. We all get so that that means there's a girl who just was like like just a little bit on the tip.

SPEAKER_01 7:57

Yeah, the girl who had go all the way back. All the way back.

SPEAKER_03 8:02

I think everyone at this non existent never happened party understood exactly what you're saying. And that was probably part of the part of the game, right?

SPEAKER_02 8:14

The girls were probably like deep throat.

SPEAKER_03 8:17

I have to go a little bit further to the front if you want to use your back front. Right. Uh I think I think that everyone was in on it, is what I think.

SPEAKER_02 8:27

Now we know these parties absolutely never actually happened. Yes, that's correct. Do you think there ever was an instance of a kid like stealing his mom's lipstick to make it look like it happened?

SPEAKER_03 8:41

Like you think he just took his mom's five different crazy colors of lipstick and just made rings around his own.

SPEAKER_00 8:48

Most people don't have lipsticks that are that where the colors are that distinct from a job.

SPEAKER_03 8:52

Right.

SPEAKER_00 8:53

It's like four colored whites of red.

SPEAKER_03 8:56

Right. And exactly. Look another slightly different red.

SPEAKER_00 9:01

It looks like you have an injury.

SPEAKER_03 9:03

Right, exactly. Your dick looks very bruised. Then you're saying what? He took a picture of his dick and then showed it to like people at school? Like, do you think that that would be the situation? Or just showed his dick? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 9:17

Maybe.

SPEAKER_03 9:17

I think it would be pretty easily like quickly discovered. I think they'd be like, where'd that where did this happen and who did it?

SPEAKER_02 9:24

It would be like, I went to a party, you know, at you know, at uh Owings Mills. Yeah, at Owings Mills.

SPEAKER_03 9:30

Dude, it was always Owings Mills, though. That's probably where the best ranked. I literally was trying to think of any other school that I couldn't think of.

SPEAKER_02 9:39

Well, actually the one I thought of was Gilman, and I was like, that was all that was an all-boy school.

SPEAKER_03 9:43

It's an all-boys school. So yes, I went to a Gilman party and got my dick sucked by a bunch of dudes.

SPEAKER_01 9:50

Um Mrs. Steinberg's class.

SPEAKER_02 9:52

Yeah, yeah. Mrs. Steinberg's class. Um, so some kid, I remember it was like, whoever told that story, and it was like a story we had all heard at the time. And then whoever told that story was like, I just want to warn you, Mrs. Steinberg. Like, it is a it is a pretty like explicit story. And she's like, this is a she didn't say safe space, but she was like, that's okay. We're we should in this class we should be free to talk about that, this stuff. And so let's say it was he was like, he told this whole story, and Mrs. Steinberg just had this app this look of absolute repulsion on her face, where she was like, I feel like I've heard every like in my head, it was like a look of like, I feel like I've heard every gross thing a kid has said in the hallways, like, you know, listening out from my office, and this is just like on a whole other level. But at the same time, I swear to God, there were it was one of those days where like people were like visiting the school to like sit in on classes, and they sat in on that class where it told that story. Jesus.

SPEAKER_00 11:07

Yeah. And he thought to himself, yeah, this is a good uh time to tell this with all these people in the class.

SPEAKER_02 11:16

I think just I I don't think I think like anytime those people would visit, it would we we would very quickly forget about them.

SPEAKER_00 11:25

And this was like like who like the leaders of the community were.

SPEAKER_02 11:28

I don't remember what happened actually. Like we definitely forgot they were in that class. And then he told that story, and then whoever was sitting in the class immediately got up and left.

SPEAKER_01 11:40

So you're saying it was like a prospective student?

SPEAKER_02 11:42

It's no Peter Hatchels. Like, I don't know what it was like it wasn't like to get it was like something like like when people would like come to class when I think BT was like applying to get a blue ribbon certification. It wasn't that because we had already gotten a ribbon application.

SPEAKER_03 12:01

I think it was something like that. Um so who was your favorite librarian, Josh? Um my favorite librarian.

SPEAKER_02 12:10

I didn't go in the I didn't know any of the librarians. I didn't go in there.

SPEAKER_00 12:15

Said that in the beginning. But of the librarians you knew of, did you have a favorite? It's Ari Jacobson's mom. Right.

SPEAKER_03 12:22

Justin, he's bearing the lead because he was very close friends with a student whose mom was the librarian. Which one? Ari Jacobson.

SPEAKER_02 12:29

Ari Jacobson's mom. His mom was the librarian. His mom was the librarian. I don't think I ever interacted with her as a librarian, but I slept over at Ari Jacobson's all the time.

SPEAKER_04 12:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:41

And uh sleep at the librarian's house. That was definitely a scene I remember hanging out in the library. I tried it. I tried it once or twice.

SPEAKER_01 12:50

I always remember once you said the librarian's names.

SPEAKER_03 12:53

But I Adam, were you just like arc welding the whole time? Were you just like making arc the whole time? Like what were you doing, Adam? Arc arc welding?

SPEAKER_01 13:02

No, I I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 13:03

I don't know where I was where was where did you have lunch? Yeah, but where did you have lunch? That was a bunch of different things. Like where did you have lunch? Yeah, cafeteria, obviously, but also hallway, locker room, parking lot if it was nice out, or part like sidewalk outside.

SPEAKER_00 13:19

I don't know. You read on the roof of the building.

SPEAKER_01 13:22

Oh, yeah, that was it.

SPEAKER_03 13:24

That was I could see you, Adam, like weirdly, like somehow getting a job in ninth grade and just like leaving school to go work somewhere. That wouldn't shock me.

SPEAKER_02 13:34

Hard hat for an hour and then comes back.

SPEAKER_03 13:36

Exactly. He's just doing weird construction gigs locally.

SPEAKER_02 13:39

Also, you didn't cross you did cross country, right? Yeah, Adam. Yeah, sure. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:44

I don't think you never had to leave that early, like lunch period. No. Well, I mean, I guess occasionally some meets were to go far away.

SPEAKER_00 13:53

Skiing or running.

unknown 13:55

Right.

SPEAKER_02 13:55

Jake, did you do it? No, you didn't theater. But you never had to leave class early to do theater, right?

SPEAKER_03 14:02

No, but if we had rehearsals as like certainly tech week, we were we lived in the theater for tech week. Sounds so nice. Why didn't I? It was the best. It was the fucking best. It'll never get better than that.

SPEAKER_01 14:15

Yeah, you just had to make your own theater company your senior year and make that movie. That's true.

SPEAKER_02 14:20

I just made the senior movie and never had to go to a single class.

SPEAKER_03 14:24

Josh, Josh, of all the people that did not do school, you are by far the most successful. What am I not doing? What am I talking about?

SPEAKER_02 14:34

By far. I sort of just saved all my like like it's as if I was on cross-country freshman, sophomore, junior year, and I just sort of saved them all for senior year. For senior year, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:46

Did you between between making the senior movie, having an internship, and going to Israel, did you spend, do you think, two weeks in class? No, two consecutive weeks in class.

SPEAKER_02 14:58

The only reason I know I did is because I remember I had a film noir class. Just because you remember that you had a film, what he did kind of just always seem a little sad to me, that guy. He was sad. He was a sad guy.

SPEAKER_01 15:12

I remember this is a thing that I remember, which it makes no sense. I was put in a group in his class, and he he named the groups for some reason, and he said he named the group the Wander Falls, and I he was really proud of himself. I remember him being distinctly, and it was I just in that moment it was so sad. Because of your last name. Was that fall? No, he was like punning it with just my last name for some reason. Oh, and he was like very pleased with the pun that he made. And I was like, that's sad.

SPEAKER_03 15:48

Yeah, he was kind of sad.

SPEAKER_02 15:52

Some people he was sweet. He was a sweet guy. He was very nice. He was very nice. Those two things do usually go together. Do you mind who else was kind of a sad teacher? Was Mr. Sad. Also, Rabbi Z also kind of made me sad. Um he was like sort of my introduction to a teacher who can't control the class, and the class just completely takes advantage of that.

SPEAKER_04 16:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:16

And it was like, I had him multiple times, and just I was like, day one of each class I had with him. I was like, God, he lost it again. Like this whole year is just gonna be so shitty for him. And I just would see that happen to him over and over and over again. And like I was never a I I don't think I was ever like a bad kid, but I'll always be like laughing at bad stuff that was happening. Um and I do remember this is what really broke my heart. Like a class ended, and for some reason I was always like the last one out, like gathering my stuff. And he was like, Josh, I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

SPEAKER_03 16:58

And I was like, ah dude, you you I'll tell you what you do, man. And you gave him and you gave him the finger on the way up. I was gonna say you give him an address to a local Rambo party, and you say, just Yeah, it's like an eyes wide shut situation.

SPEAKER_02 17:11

Just give him an eyes wide shut. Just hand him a card.

SPEAKER_03 17:14

Just give him an address, it's like 123 kosher road, and you just give him the password is gumbo.

SPEAKER_02 17:20

Well, you know, he you know why I think this he got fired. You know, you know why how he got fired, right? Um he got so like there was one day, I think I wasn't in this class, but uh it there's there it's a lot of witnesses to this, so I truly believe this story. Um one day he did just snap. Snap like it was enough. I mean, I think he was there for three years. I I I think. And somehow his keys were in his hand, his car keys were in his hand, and he got so pissed he threw them and they hit Henry Scheller. And Henry Scheller was bleeding from this. Oh yeah. And like that, I mean that's it. Like that's the end. They ruined ruin his rainbow deck. But also it's like I saw it was it was it I saw all the events leading up to that moment. So I was like, this guy is not a villain. I remember even like thinking that, right?

SPEAKER_03 18:16

At like You should have said that out loud after it happened.

SPEAKER_02 18:19

You should have said, This man is not a villain. No, I was bleeding in the corner. This is like, I don't know. Like, I remember at the time when I found out he got fired for that. I was like, I it really was like a feeling of like, God, finally they put him out of his misery. Like, like this is probably good that he got fired for him. We need to get him as a guest on the show. That'd be great. I do remember a little detail that he moved to California. Okay, so not that that makes it any harder. Yeah, probably San Quentin.

SPEAKER_03 18:52

Find his LinkedIn somewhere. He's probably at San Quentin these days. Threw too many keys at too many wrong people. That's our Mr. I don't know if either of you remember Mr. Burr. He threw a chair. He threw a chair. That was his last day. Oh, did he?

SPEAKER_00 19:08

At somebody or just in general?

SPEAKER_03 19:10

No, in general. He was it was he just was while you was in the school or outside school?

SPEAKER_00 19:16

In the school.

SPEAKER_03 19:16

No, no, it was in a class. There were these two girls that would not shut the fuck up, and he just like took a desk, like a chair and a desk. A desk or a chair? Yeah, no, no, no. It was like a it was like one of those like small chair connected to a desk. Oh, and he like picked it up and he like threw it, not at anyone, but like threw it. And obviously, the class immediately went silent. No, no, no, no, not in anyone's direction, nobody got hit with anything. So, what did he throw it at? The wall? He like threw it like in like in front of himself, like to the side. It probably just right. It probably was just a startle.

SPEAKER_02 19:50

It probably wasn't so airborne, but it probably made a loud noise when it landed.

SPEAKER_03 19:54

Huge noise, crashed on the ground, everyone's completely silent. He leaves the classroom because I think he recognizes like I am gonna lose my job. Yeah, right. He's like, I have to pay. He just like oh wow, I forgot about that whole thing.

SPEAKER_02 20:09

A teacher leaving the room because they can't they need a breath.

SPEAKER_00 20:13

That always the only time I remember a teacher. This isn't that to feel off soon, but the only time I remember a teacher leaving the room because they were so mad was that someone in my journalism class had a glass bottle, like they were sitting at their desks, like you were saying, the combined chair desk things. Someone had like a glass, like must have been like an art, like some kind of like uh what was like a Snapple bottle or something on their desk. And they were like joking around and it fell and it smashed and it went everywhere. And our teacher was so mad, he was like about to start class, he just like looked at the bottle, looked at us, and like walked out of the room. And I don't think he came back for maybe like 15 minutes, and we're all sitting there like did anyone.

SPEAKER_02 21:02

It's so scary.

SPEAKER_00 21:03

I think you really terrified. Uh I think the janitor had to come and clean it. I don't think the kid who did it cleaned anything up. I think the janitor came.

SPEAKER_02 21:13

I could see like a kid like in that situation, like some high school kid, sort of like assuming the leadership role, be like, come on, guys, we do need to clean this up. You think that would have been you, Josh? No, definitely not. Um I could see that being, let's see, who for my class could I see that?

SPEAKER_03 21:33

Yeah, who let's just go through and everyone say in your grade, who's the person that's cleaning it up or leading the brigade to clean it up.

SPEAKER_02 21:41

I feel like maybe a Jake Fishman.

SPEAKER_00 21:44

Um but I was maybe Alex Simone, I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_02 21:49

Yeah. Alex Simone would have been jokes. No, no joke, that actually is a very good nomination. Is it that's actually an even better? One than Jake Bisman, honestly. Dude, I love that he nailed it. That actually is the answer. For real. That's incredible.

SPEAKER_03 22:13

I feel like Simone would have been making jokes.

SPEAKER_02 22:16

No, no, no. Was he? He was like, there were certain kids in my class who, like Zach Alter was another kid like this.

SPEAKER_01 22:23

I thought Zach Alter too when you and I don't even know them that in that one, but I had that thought. That's a weird one.

SPEAKER_02 22:27

I see them as such c such class clown out. They would switch to be serious so quickly, it would be really scary. That is really scary. Or it'd just be really jarring where it's like I I still like this, where sometimes in a serious situation, I do kind of have to look at other people to know exactly how to act in a situation. I feel like they would sort of take the initiative in situations like that to be like, this is how you act in this situation.

SPEAKER_03 22:55

How many detentions did each of you get in high school?

SPEAKER_02 22:59

None. I was gonna say too many took into count. Is that real? Yeah, I only had after school detention with my brother.

SPEAKER_03 23:14

It would be fucking hysterical, Josh, if this whole time you were both getting after school detention because it was so obvious that he was cheating on your papers and just like neither of you realized that.

SPEAKER_02 23:25

I rem I I now remember why. Um, but um I had lunch detention like all the time. Um yeah, it was only because I swear, I really didn't do like that many bad things. I would just be like, it would be what's it?

SPEAKER_01 23:41

You'd be with a group of kids who did got in trouble and you were there for the five. I was there laughing.

SPEAKER_02 23:47

Like I wasn't trying to distance myself from anybody like that. But my brother, we were just late. My mom would drop us off one time, but like Yeah, I got one late when we would eventually show up to Davening, we were always so late. And so I think Mr. I think Mr. Gurvich was like both of you need to get a week's worth of detention.

SPEAKER_03 24:11

Jesus, what a what a fucking Nazi. I think Justin, did you get any?

SPEAKER_00 24:16

I mean my brother had an in school suspension.

SPEAKER_02 24:20

An in-school suspension? I forgot what he did actually. Do you remember, Adam? You have to like fucking kill someone to get an in-school suspension. I know. That does sound bad. Split someone's well, it's weird because I feel like on the on the hierarchy of being in trouble of regular suspension, I feel like it's actually a step above in-school suspension. But in school suspension is a worse word. Way worse words think he dawin too hard.

SPEAKER_03 24:50

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 24:53

No, I said do you think he dawvin too hard?

SPEAKER_03 24:55

Oh, and that's why he got the in-school suspension.

SPEAKER_02 24:59

Like Andrew Lipsitz had in school suspension, I think it was Andrew Lipsitz had in school suspension once, and I remember I saw him after, and it was like the scene in Shahlshank Redemption when he gets out of solitary confinement. He had like one loose leaf paper that he was like, I'm trying to write every WWF wrestler that I can remember. And it really did look, he wasn't like abiding by the loose leaf lines at all. It was just like get everywhere, like it was completely scrawled. It was in the style of like crazy wall drawings.

SPEAKER_03 25:30

And I was like, I never want that to happen to me. Adam, you didn't get suspended or detention once for banging someone in school. That uh again, that just feels railing.

SPEAKER_02 25:40

On this podcast, we say railing. Doing art where you once weren't supposed to?

SPEAKER_01 25:45

No, I I don't think I got uh yeah, no, no.

SPEAKER_02 25:50

No. Wow. You weren't like, did you ever have a teacher who didn't like you, Adam? That you can remember?

unknown 25:56

No.

SPEAKER_01 25:57

I mean, I'm sure I had teachers who didn't like care one way or the other. Oh, you know who didn't like me was uh Dr. Uh and I got my worst grade, I got the worst grade I ever got in her class for on a single thing, actually. I wouldn't and I wonder now if that paper was, you know, I don't know. What was that great? I think it was like a D.

SPEAKER_03 26:22

Yeah. I mean, what what are the options here? It's like a D or an F, I feel like.

SPEAKER_02 26:29

Well, it dep I mean it depends if you're a really good student. That's true.

SPEAKER_01 26:34

Yeah, I don't think I got anything.

SPEAKER_03 26:36

I don't think it back, I think I got I think I got two C's my first year because I was in like all AP classes and I like was not I I like I did a very bad job transitioning from middle school to high school. So I just like was not with it. So I got like two C's and then then I only got A's and B's after that.

SPEAKER_02 26:55

It was too scary to get those C's. Way too scary. Um I mean I I probably got like five to ten Fs a year. Usually, right. I mean, at Bethtophila, you could fail. You guys probably don't even know this, but you could fail like so many tests or papers, and then the teacher will be like, all right, well, here's a makeup paper or whatever. Sure, right. We'll cut your grade in half or increase your grade by whatever. See, and it didn't work for me. Yeah, oh boy, those math skills really did not pay off. So I was just like, yeah, yeah, there's always an exit hatch at the end of the trimester for me to go down. Um but there wasn't for for Dr. I mean, she I mean, in some ways, she's the most like commendable teacher there. She actually gave you a degree. Yeah, she actually had integrity. But you know, as uh a kid in her class, it was devastating and I hated her. So you failed. No, you know, my mom was right.

SPEAKER_03 27:57

I was like, I was like, I know the ending of this story, dude.

SPEAKER_02 27:59

There's a zero percent chance you failed.

SPEAKER_03 28:01

I think I ended up with a D though, which is really you went to Syracuse and B U N U S C.

SPEAKER_02 28:07

No, but I wonder if she didn't like me because I did beat her daughter in um the end the podcast right there. End the podcast right there.

SPEAKER_03 28:14

I beat her daughter, play the music, play the music. Um, you were president.

SPEAKER_02 28:17

You won't be able to it was me, her, and Perlow. And um yeah, I I beat her. Could the teachers vote in the run for the vice presidency? I don't think they could. Yeah, the teachers could vote. But I remember that. That'd be really funny. This this this is maybe sad that I remember this. Whoever counted the ballots pulled me aside and was like, you like demolished the competition. I was like, that feels really good. Because Becky Perlow had like a had had like um a um what's it called? A smear campaign. She's smeared you. She like put up, because I was like, uh, you know. Oh I was one of the hairier kids in my class for sure. She put up a picture of a monkey and she was like, Oh, that's bad. She put up a picture of a monkey and she was like, Don't vote for this monkey. And she didn't even say my name, but it oh, well, it wasn't lied. Everyone got it. She was like, and then vote for Becky. But then I did something very funny and very clever. I found that exact picture of a monkey and print and put vote Josh underneath it and put it right near hers. And just she would really own to she keep, yeah, exactly. You took back the word. You took back the night. And I would keep moving mine closer to her, like it was basically like we're chasing our little, you know, printer paper posters at each other around the hall.

SPEAKER_03 29:51

God, the stakes were so high. I thought you were gonna say you just like made a monkey and like put her face up.

SPEAKER_02 29:57

No, no, no. I when she goes low, I don't go low. You go high. Yeah, you go high.