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S2, E1 - The Trail of Season 1 w/ Lawyer Andrew

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SPEAKER_02

We just have to put a quick disclaimer. I can say it that I'm not giving legal advice. I'm not the attorney for any of the three of you. I'm not the attorney for the podcast, Rabbi Field Notes. Um just here to give some uh legal analysis and opinions and um make sure you guys aren't getting yourselves into trouble.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, so episode one. Andrew. Uh I don't know why I said your name there.

SPEAKER_02

I guess because you were looking away from us, and I was like, Oh, Andrew, I have two screens up and I was just looking at a box score of a basketball game. But you have my whole thing.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. No, Andrew.

SPEAKER_03

Adam's on his phone the whole time.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah. Josh does not like it. I have a work.

SPEAKER_03

I have a work.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, Josh does not like it if you are not 100%.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, Josh, Josh caught me.

SPEAKER_04

I was looking at Adam's the only one who's allowed to like sort of come in and out. Because Adam's identity is that he doesn't give a fuck.

SPEAKER_03

Uh okay, episode one, Jake says that Miss P told a whole class that she got railed on a glass coffee table.

SPEAKER_04

It's four years after 9-11, Miss P has been fired because at this point of 9-11. Not because of 9-11, not because of 9-11, because she had told uh her classes about sexual um her sexual habits at home. She talked about being Were you in that class? I was. She talked about being, quote, railed on a glass uh dining room table. I swear to God. I swear to God. Railed, railed is the quote. I'll never forget that.

SPEAKER_02

So so I'm I I'm just really confused, Jake. Um I can't tell if you're being facetious or not when you say that.

SPEAKER_04

I'm not being facetious. I have a vivid memory of her telling the class that.

SPEAKER_02

That she was getting say it again?

SPEAKER_04

That she got railed on a coffee table. It was a glass coffee table. Railed. Railed was the exact thing.

SPEAKER_02

We're all using the word railed as we imagine. Yes.

SPEAKER_04

Like that's how she said. Maybe she maybe she didn't mean sex. Maybe I misunderstood what maybe maybe railed meant something else.

SPEAKER_02

But look. Here's the thing. I still wouldn't worry if I'm Jake because was she really damaged by it? I mean, I it's something the courts do consider. I know you said, you know, 10 to 15 people listen to your show. Um I don't think there's enough people out there that would Oh, a day.

SPEAKER_03

A day. Please. Yeah, yeah. We actually have we have the a thousand downloads. Like, I just want to I feel like that deserves like some applause. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we should actually stop down, take a moment, pause there. A thousand downloads is pretty awesome.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that's pretty awesome. Congratulations. Okay, so again, I think again, dealing with the realities. If we want to deal with this theoretically or doctrinally, would she actually sue for this? Is it worth her time? The damages. You have to prove some type of financial or pecuniary damages. If this somehow got out and she lost her job because of it, or something along those lines, perhaps it led to a divorce and she lost custody of her child, that's very sad. But um you might be dealing with something there. But the likelihood of that is so low because again, a thousand downloads is awesome. I think it's great. I don't think this is gonna get back to her just because it's such it's such a big world, such a big universe. Wow. That's a blow, honestly. That's a blow.

SPEAKER_03

I'm sorry, but I'm not invited back, I'll know why. We do want like a little bit of controversy. I feel like we've sort of been kind of courting that, but kind of the right amount.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, I I do definitely think that toes the line. And I'm I I don't want to worry Jake. Um Jake Jake had to know when he shared that that that's pretty much.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, now that I'm a dad, Andrew, I'm not fucking worried about any of this other bullshit. That she she can miss she can miss me with that bullshit. Also, sh I liked her a lot, and you know, seems like a reason to be more worried because like more people are at stake now. Like no, now there's a man in the house.

SPEAKER_03

Now there's a real man in the house, myself. Okay, but say you get Okay, alright.

SPEAKER_02

Well, let's I I I I see Josh's point, but we can't.

SPEAKER_03

I think I I it's not that I think it's more of like I think I have the really I have a lot more to lose now having a child than I did before. Normal person point of view. It's like more the Jake one that Okay, well, anyway, episode two was the one where I got mad at Ari for uh uh shaming me out of sleepovers. There's nothing really there, but episode three is the episode where we come up with the idea. Okay, well, let me back up. Jake had this idea.

SPEAKER_04

Everyone's explaining this to another person, like hearing you explain it, it's like, oh, we just sound like we're insane.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah. Jake, I mean, this is great. This is great. Jake had the Jake sort of has been living with this pain for almost his whole life that he felt like he was the only one in high school who was not having sex. I think you think that in high school everyone was just having sex constantly, and you were not. Adam, did you have sex in high school?

SPEAKER_04

Okay, let me clarify. I not with two girls at the same time, with just one girl at a time.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay, then yes, I did. Only two and above.

SPEAKER_03

Uh later. Less than two? All right, dude. I want, I I there needs to be an episode that we definitely cannot do. Okay. It's I think it's for your own sanity.

SPEAKER_04

Where we just have every popular person to tell me the sex they have.

SPEAKER_03

It doesn't even have to be popular, but it right. It's just the kids you think were having the most sex, and we asked them a great episode idea, Josh. It's a great episode.

SPEAKER_04

It would just be a bunch of bleeps, but it would be a very fun episode. We make their voices like if you can arrange for this to happen, I actually think that would be one of the funniest episodes.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I'll beep all their names up, but tell me tell me who you think was so fucking funny. And to prove that he was wrong, we had him pick two people who he thought had the most sex in high school. They came on, they I texted them, they agreed to come on, they knew what the premise was. They came on, Jake really grilled them. It was actually like not a super funny episode because Jake was very serious about it. We actually muffled their voices, like we used like an actual anonymized it.

SPEAKER_01

Wow.

SPEAKER_03

And um was it a guy and a girl that were together? Was it two guys? No, no, it was two two guys. Okay. And um But we didn't really so no, that's what I'm getting to. So I you know spent a while editing that episode, probably longer than any episode. I was I thought it was so good. And then those two said we could not release the episode. Now, what if I did anyway?

SPEAKER_02

Okay, so that was kind of the wind up to the question.

SPEAKER_03

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. I mean I don't think you necessarily need their permission to release the episode because if they agreed to have you record them, and I could be wrong on this, but to me, I don't think you would necessarily need their uh permission. In other words, if you're at a baseball game or watching a baseball game on TV and a fan does something stupid and says, Oh my god, don't record that, it's like look, you're you're at a you're at a public baseball game, you kind of consented to it. In the same vein, they consented to being on a podcast that they knew that you guys shared with people and put out in the open. So that in and of itself, I don't think would be actionable. Um I mean, I I'd really have to know more of the context of Jake's questions to know.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, that's yeah, Jake can go right into that for you. I'll just answer any questions you have to do.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know how explicit you wanted to be, but I was gonna say it seems like less of a defamation thing because you know they're there, you're not saying false things about them, it doesn't seem. But more of a um, you know, again, placing them in a false light. Um these are people who probably care about their people's opinions on them, they care about their reputations, and you were implying that they were very promiscuous in high school. Maybe that's something they don't want people to know, maybe that's something that no one else knows about them if it was true. So that's probably the the angle that they'd be coming from.

SPEAKER_03

So just in summation, would you advise when releasing that episode against their consent or um not releasing it? Well, look, I mean because doesn't that episode sound great? I'm good friends with both of those guys.

SPEAKER_02

So I I talk to them multiple times a week, so I wouldn't just look at like that.

SPEAKER_03

Me too, but it's it's so good it's worth it's worth the friendship, I would say.

SPEAKER_04

Josh, I don't think you have it in you to burn that so that bridge. I don't think you have it in you.

SPEAKER_03

No, I mean I don't actually have it in me. Um all right, episode all right, so we'll release that episode without their consent. Uh let me just be clear, that is against my advice. Just because of uh what Andrew said. Um episode four, we can kind of skip that one. I wrote that that is when Jake. This is actually sort of the so actually episode four is significant because if I was on the wait, there's defense and then what's the other prosecution. Yeah, if I was on the it's called prosecution, Andrew. Or plaintiff or plaintiff. Plaintiff. Uh if I was on the prosecution, this would be exhibit A of like how Jake lies all the time without knowing it. Because this is the episode where Jake tried to convince me that the start time of Bethtophylla was different depending on the day of the week.

SPEAKER_04

Monday and Thursday mornings were tore reading days. So you had to go to school earlier because dovning in the morning was longer. Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Fridays, there's no tora reading. So school started later. And then on Fridays after daylight savings, it ended early. So school, that's what my point is that like I have no.

SPEAKER_03

I'm the Adam in this one. I do not remember that at Really? Yeah, I was I in my mind school always started at the same time. No. And ended at, you know, ended at the same time except for Friday.

SPEAKER_01

Tuesday you might, you know, maybe you never knew that because in the previous episode you did admit to getting a lot of detentions because you were always late with your brother to die. This is also true.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, maybe maybe I didn't realize just how late I was.

SPEAKER_04

Right. Yeah. School, uh okay, if if my memory serves me, I want to say that on Mondays and Thursdays, school started closer to eight. Okay. Maybe maybe like eight ten. Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Fridays, it started closer to like 8 45.

SPEAKER_03

Are you sure? I feel like I would remember this.

SPEAKER_01

If he was brought to trial by Mrs. Gott Rail Rail Lady, then she's got railed lady. Mrs. Gott Railed Lady. And then she says, she she points to this episode and says, Well, here's a pattern of Jake misremembering, or Jake saying false things, I guess, would be that were then later proven to be false or something like that. Would that be used as part of a character assassination?

SPEAKER_03

Okay. Alright, so episode six, that's actually just a me and Adam episode.

SPEAKER_04

Thank God. Finally, I can't be accused of anything that's clean.

SPEAKER_03

It's just us talking about how. And this is a real I feel like if you haven't listened to the show, to hear what Adam and I talked about on that episode would really bring some new listeners in. We talked about. Get ready for this, Andrew. Well, we talked about. And also, I want you to imagine this without Jake, who's like Mr. Entertaining. We talked about when BT no longer allowed us to wear funeral yarmicas into school. Woohoo.

SPEAKER_02

I would listen to that.

SPEAKER_01

I'm sure the mother, I'm sure the least listened to episode, or the most started and then after five minutes abandoned episode.

SPEAKER_03

There were kids in my grade. I don't know if you had these kids in your grade. They just could never, they would they could not get it together when it came to wearing yarmulkas. Like being told like 10, 15 times a day, where's your yarmulca? Where's your yarmulca? Would get detention for wearing a yarmika. Not even sure. I don't know what it was. Like, I don't know if it was like they would forget or if it was like a small act of rebellion. They just could not get it together with wearing a yarmulca. And like it's weird, but I was on like the teachers or the administration's side. Like going through high school, I was like, Yeah, just wear one. It's not so easy. You forget about it. That frustrated you. It frustrated me that there were kids in my class that, yeah, just would never get it together, you know, be in their pocket. And then, oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. And then they just quickly put it on their head, then maybe take it back off and put it in their pocket when the person who yelled at them, you know, walked away. I was like, What's the big deal? I didn't really get it. But here's the twist. I mean, here's here's here's I mean, unless you had something to say about what I just said. Did you have kids in your class like that?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. That would have been a good guess for this episode, is one of those types of kids, FYL.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, and really asked them about why they had such a hard time keeping it on their head.

SPEAKER_01

I just assume, I guess.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, I wonder if we're should we say it at the same time? Sure. Okay. One, two, three. Andrew Lip. Andrew lips it's holy shit.

SPEAKER_04

Even the lawyers couldn't make it that well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They all killed themselves.

SPEAKER_02

That episode is not being suitable.

SPEAKER_04

Andrew, is there any way out of this for me if I'm diagnosed as like clinically insane or like that's good. Is there any do I have any out here clinically?

SPEAKER_02

We're dealing with a civil suit against Jake for defamation or libel or slander. Um, and I do think a diagnosis of insanity would help Jake's cause because again, go to that third element, knowledge of falsity. Someone who's insane, their knowledge of things objectively in their world is they probably can't appreciate or understand the seriousness of what they're saying or whether it's true or false if they're insane. So I think neg I think for an insane person, the intention intentional and even negligent um nature of a comment, the bar would be a lot lower.

SPEAKER_03

So hold on. If we what it if we were if the three of us were all diagnosed as insane, does that mean we can just say whatever we want every episode after this? Yes. Wow, we have a next guest.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, exactly. Who's the clinical psychologist who's gonna come on and give us all? Not beep any name, say anything about any teacher, release that episode with just being like this is all a vehicle for Josh to feel vindicated in being allowed to release that episode. That's what all this is. It's song and dance.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I would say no. Um really uh really uh putting yourselves out there to possibly face liability and uh playing with fire, I think is the term I would come up with because I don't think that it's one size fits all, and I think there could be some things that even an insane person would know or defamatory. Um so uh I wouldn't recommend that.

SPEAKER_04

I mean, Josh treats me like even if I was insane, I should have known that school started at the same time every day. Like that's how he treats me.

SPEAKER_03

Episode seven. I mean, episode seven, we just accused we just accused Adam of having a crush on a cousin. Uh you guys ever have a crush on a cousin?

SPEAKER_01

No, I don't I don't think so, no.

SPEAKER_04

I mean, not uh you said no a little too many times there. That was that was easily five or six no's. And I and I think they I think they were starting to double negative of themselves.

SPEAKER_03

It sounds like a thought occurred to you of a cousin you may have had a crush on, and then you're like sort of assessing, like no, no, no, yeah. Not real. No. Uh-huh. Yeah, keep saying that.

SPEAKER_04

Wow, who would have thought this was gonna be the taxicab confessional episode? Started with snow days. Okay, man. You can have a crush on a cutscene. It is okay. It's okay. It's absolutely okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And I have been stewing about that in the break and am thinking about that cause.

SPEAKER_03

Well, episode eight's really, I feel like episode eight has. Episode eight's where it all goes to fucking hell. No, no, no. It's just I I feel like this is something something we could get in trouble for. Go ahead. Jake, in that episode, of course, says these are literally this is literally what he said to Andrew Lipsitz. Yeah, play the clip. Play the clip. He says he would rather cut his own dick off than send his kids to BT.

SPEAKER_04

Well, Andrew, what would what would it take to get you to send your kids to BT now?

SPEAKER_03

Uh I would send my kids to BT, I think. Wait, wait, should we? I actually don't know the answer to this for the two of you. For Jake and Adam, if you guys had kids, would you send them to BT?

SPEAKER_04

No, I'd rather cut my own fucking dick off.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. Wow. Do you want to do you want to expand on that, Jake? Not the process of cutting your own dick off, but that process, that process would be so quick.

SPEAKER_04

Um the why? Oh god, no. I hated BT. Has that not come across?

SPEAKER_03

Oh, you're right. That that actually has been made very clear. I just wonder if that was like BT's fault or just you being in high school. Yeah. Like just because a lot of this BT stuff you say that you hated about it is sounds like just you know.

SPEAKER_04

Baby, I stand by that.

SPEAKER_01

That's pure opinion. That's 100% my opinion.

SPEAKER_04

1,000% my right to cut my own dick off.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, so um legally speaking, I don't think you can response for that. I mean, that could mean any number of things. You know, Jake, Jake could argue he's always wanted to cut his own dick off, and that would give him an opportunity to do it. I basically have, Andrew. Right? Yes. That's right.

SPEAKER_03

That's what you gotta do. If you cut your own dick off, we could easily win the insanity case. Then we could say whatever we or yeah, at least you could say whatever.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, that could open up the podcast to all kinds of new opportunities, Jay.

SPEAKER_04

That's true.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

God, who would or who who could we get for sponsored? That could be an episode. Is me cutting my own dick off? Yeah, Josh, I don't understand how you thought that was actionable at all.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, I don't know. I was just picturing like potential. It's offensive towards Bath. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was picturing like uh, you know, say a parent who has their kid in Schechter middle school. They're looking at all the potential schools that could send their kid to high school. You know, they're like, huh, there's this teacher who teaches at BT named Rabbi Field. Let me just Google him and see what's going on there. Huh, what's this? A podcast about him? Oh, wait, what's the episode? Okay. Huh, this guy. Honey, get in here. Keep go yeah, keep going. Honey, get in here. Yes, honey, what's going on? This incredible podcast. This host said he'd rather cut his own. I think we're we gotta do Baltimore Hebrew, even though that apparently doesn't exist anymore.

SPEAKER_02

It doesn't exist anymore.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, or what's I don't know, what's a what's the uh another thing?

SPEAKER_02

I didn't know it didn't exist anymore.

SPEAKER_03

What's another high school, Jewish high school in the Baltimore area?

SPEAKER_02

Shector.

SPEAKER_04

That's not a high school. I don't know if is Cardin still open? Ron Bom's. TA's around. TA's around. I mean, I'll I'll double down. Again, I'd rather cut my own dick off and then shoot myself in the head using my dick as the bullet than send my kid to to TA. Is that allowed? Can I say that?

SPEAKER_02

If you had a high powered enough gun, Josh, it would work. It would still pass.

SPEAKER_04

Is a projectile. Anything, anything is smoke, and anything is a projectile.

SPEAKER_01

I I mean I Why do you glad we cleared that up?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, we I think I think this next season we're gonna kind of sort of pivot to like more of the mythbusters like genre. Our first episode is Jason. Well, it's gonna be twofold. Jason's gonna cut his own dick off so he can prove insanity later. End of episode. Episode two. We're gonna use that dick. See, like, hey, we you know that common thing everyone thinks where stupid yeah. You can't alright. Alright, I'm bailing. Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Something tells me I'm gonna be on the show again next year offering something.

SPEAKER_03

You will definitely be on the show next year.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, this will be annual. Definitely annual.

SPEAKER_03

Um, alright. Well Okay, here's one that Jake keeps saying. I uh here's one that Jake keeps saying that he knows is false. Um he keeps saying that slept with Mrs. Kagle.

SPEAKER_04

Did was there a possibility in that production that slept with Mrs. Kagle? That would be my ranking system. So Lin is again would be number one for me.

SPEAKER_03

This is something Jake has brought up every episode, and I've always cut it out. He cuts it out every time.

SPEAKER_04

Absolutely gonna get a suit. Yeah, I don't is this that was like a scurrilous rumor it at Beth Fellow at the time. Everybody thought that. This isn't just from your imagination.

SPEAKER_00

I never knew that rumor. I like I'm sure I heard people like joking. I mean, everyone knows like she obviously loves him.

SPEAKER_04

She was in love with him. He was so hot, he's still so hot.

SPEAKER_00

Why would he like could have done better? He could do he could do better. I don't believe that rumor. It's not like he didn't have choices.

SPEAKER_04

No, he had all the choices in the world. I think it was a power play. I think it was to be able to say, I slept with not only did I sleep with the teacher, but I slept with the last teacher that I should sleep with.

SPEAKER_00

I mean I'm not I'm not I'm not going on that.

SPEAKER_04

You're not going on that. Okay.

SPEAKER_02

And it and it could be actionable by both of them. Mrs. Cable could sue because she shouldn't be sleeping with high school students, and right could sue because he shouldn't be sleeping with his teacher. You're I think you're gonna struggle to prove damages, A, and B, I don't think anyone cares and you know, is gonna be so offended by they're gonna bring a lawsuit.

SPEAKER_04

Do we get ahead of that and counter sue? Is that the is that the strategy? What was the question? I'm sorry, do we get ahead of that one and just try to counter sue before? Well, preemptively sue. Preemptive, preemptively.

SPEAKER_02

You have nothing you have nothing to sue her for.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, and isn't that interesting? Oh, this is a question. If it if we're sued, can they request unedited uh the unedited files? Start delaying start deleting stuff, Josh. Start deleting.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I mean, yes, but it wouldn't mean anything because they're only in trying to rules to polish. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Right, right.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. Dodge the bullet there, Adam. Yeah, wow.

SPEAKER_03

But if we yeah, I'm trying to think if anything in that unedited footage would be like kind of just reputationally damning. It's probably all of it. Probably so much of it. All of it, of course.

SPEAKER_04

Fucking all of it, but who cares?

SPEAKER_03

It's like there's a reason it got cut out. It's like, oh, they're they think like you listen to the show and you're like, wow, they think they're way funnier than they actually are, but then you listen to the raw footage and you're like, holy shit. It's bad.

SPEAKER_01

That would be the biggest hit.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, god.

SPEAKER_01

Raw, raw episodes. Oof. Yeah. That's all right.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I think things are kind of winding down. I did just have kind of an ultimate sort of like, is this legal pitch? I kind of I don't think I told either of you guys this, but I have kind of a scheme how we could literally get Rabbi Field on the show. Whoa. Wow.

SPEAKER_01

I think what we ever had him as we pretend like we're a minion.

SPEAKER_03

Sort of. I think we we say we started like a Jewish studies podcast. Oh, yeah. What we'd have to do is basically record a fake episode that we we release, and then when I email him, I'm like, this is our episode. This is our show. We talk about like Judaica.

SPEAKER_04

Um can't think of anything more deceptive and absolutely opening ourselves up to a lawsuit than what you're describing. I'm all in.

SPEAKER_03

And then um, and we send him that and be and then be like, yeah, so this is and we'd love to have you on to like talk about like Moses or whatever. And then um yeah, it's gotta be Moses. It's gotta be Moses, the one Jewish reference that Josh remembers. Moisha. Um and um I don't know what we'd do with that, like, but it would probably be some like kind of Borette type business. It probably wouldn't work and we'd come off as mean and lose everyone's sympathy. Yeah. Oh mean. But I I think uh honestly, I think the funniest thing about that whole scheme would be us recording that fake Jewish episode to just that's why I want to do it.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And then and then we would do that and just say, like, we got scared and didn't email him. Right. That's a good, that's a good boss.

SPEAKER_04

But I have to be honest though, Andrew, I I know like uh the the way that I see it in my head though, is that all the things that I'm saying is to demonstrate that I actually thought that all of those people, Miss Getting Railed on a table, Dr. You know, uh Dr. Uh, I thought all those people were cooler than me. Like it's not I'm not saying it in a way to like bring them down. Mrs. Cagle I'm saying is Huh?

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Mrs.

SPEAKER_04

Kagel. Well, Mrs. Cagle was banging the hottest guy in school, so how can I how can I be upset? How can I be mad at that? I thought that all of those people were doing it like just doing way more stuff than I was, and that they were cooler than me. My whole thesis of the show is that I was not popular and I was not cool and I didn't have friends and I had a sad experience in high school. So anytime that I'm talking about those people, it's I'm not I I don't mean to be doing it in a way of like uh maybe, maybe uh well, I mean, well, no, never mind. I was gonna say something, and I that was good. That was a good day. I think what I just said was self-censored myself because of the case. But tell us what you were about to say. I can't. I can't. I'm I'm actually gonna self-censor myself. Uh I thought that all those people were cooler than me and like like were doing were were above me in some way. So I I don't know if that makes any difference as far as damages or if I'm still getting my ass sued.

SPEAKER_02

But I don't yeah, I don't think it makes a difference, unfortunately. Um because objectively you're still saying things that could you know sorry, all that pain you went through high in through high school is useless.

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Fuck.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I was having the time of my life.

SPEAKER_02

But yeah, I that that would be my quote unquote advice again. I'm not your lawyer. Um this is being done all on good fun. Um, but um, I guess that would be my advice. Um but you guys are the creative minds, not me. And if that's what's really pulling in a lot of listeners, I mean look, you look at when you compare you guys to Howard Stern or Elliot in the morning, like those guys obviously are raunchy on purpose, and I'm sure they've faced um legal issues before, but they're still in the air, and I don't know if Howard Stern's still in the air, but I mean those guys were extremely successful, so there is an angle for that to be done and success to be had for that. I mean, Howard Stern probably every episode he did probably had some type of defamation, um railing on railing the word, railing on someone um or something, but do you think she meant it like that?

SPEAKER_03

Oh like she was making fun of somebody? Yeah, why would she be able to get it?

SPEAKER_04

She was being made fun of on a coffee table. It was glass, by the way. I mean I vividly remember that it was a glass coffee table, but you think it was that maybe she was being made fun of on it.

SPEAKER_01

It seems like really cold. Rail on a coffee table. I was being railed on a coffee table.

SPEAKER_02

Just the way it sounds seems like it's the bad one.

SPEAKER_05

You know?

SPEAKER_02

You say like I was being I don't know what a good example would be.

SPEAKER_04

We're all just like silently trying to say it to ourselves.

SPEAKER_03

I love picturing the the courtroom where we like drag a glass coffee table in front of the jury.

SPEAKER_04

You might think that this glass coffee table is cold, but I'll tell you what, that day it had never been hotter.

SPEAKER_02

Is it at all possible you misheard her?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, dude, anything's possible. I was in ninth grade, it was 9-11. I mean, I didn't know what was going on.