School of Shamanism

S1 EP4: Learning to flow between worlds

• School of Shamanism • Season 1 • Episode 4

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In this episode, Giada moves from story into practice, offering grounded, honest guidance on how to actually live between worlds without burning out, fragmenting yourself, or chasing an impossible idea of balance. Building on the previous episode, she reframes the conversation entirely: this isn’t about work–life balance or splitting your time neatly in half, but about integration, flow and learning when to fully inhabit one world without guilt or self-judgement.

Giada shares practical reflections on energy management, boundaries and resilience, speaking openly about the difference between protecting yourself and prematurely retreating from growth. She explores why some seasons require softness and others demand strength, and how resilience is built not by avoiding pressure but by learning how far you can go before choosing to rest. Drawing from her own experience of years of intense work, she offers a compassionate yet steady reminder that boundaries are earned through self-knowledge, not fear.

This episode also touches on the power of daily rituals, heart-centred practices and small moments of presence that anchor you before stepping back into the demands of the day. From five quiet minutes of stillness to honouring your own natural cycles instead of external timelines, Giada invites you to listen inward rather than follow inherited rules about productivity, healing or growth.

If you’re navigating two lives, two callings, or simply trying to stay connected to yourself while meeting the demands of the world around you, this episode is a gentle but steady companion, reminding you that integration is movement, not perfection, and that whatever the day brings, the most important thing is to keep walking.

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About the Host

Originally hailing from the vibrant city of Milan, I’ve spent the past two decades traversing the globe in a quest for spiritual and personal growth and combined with 25 years of international corporate work experience. From navigating the vast landscapes of Australia in a campervan to finding tranquility living in a Buddhist monastery in Nepal, my journey is nothing short of extraordinary. Along the way, I’ve delved deep into Buddhist teachings, yoga, and shamanism, becoming Shamanic Teacher,  Forest Therapy Guide, Esoteric Numerologist, Shamanic and Integral Yoga Teacher and Ikigai Coach. In 2013 I settled in Edinburgh, where  I founded the Art and Spirituality Centre, a social enterprise and the School of Shamanism, where I passionately help others on their own transformative journeys.

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Just sitting for five ten minutes, one hour, how long you have, and closing your uh eyes and connect with your heart so that then you are just back here to this present moment and then you can go out of the air and facing all the challenges that are coming. Traveling the globe, leading teams, doing all these wonderful things. Uh, and on the other side, just taking care of my spirituality in the shamanic practice, creativity, healing. And what I'm still split or no integrated between the two worlds nowadays, uh, with my business hat and the shamanic healing and shamanic teachings. And uh, I um talked about what it really means to walk between worlds, not as I said, as a split identity, but more as uh an integration and accepting that these are two parts of me. Today I just want to be uh to get a bit practical and actually sharing how do you do that. First of all, as I said, I spoke last time about integration. So it's not about balance, which is a word that we overuse. I think sometimes that we all say I need to find the balance in between my work-life balance at the beginning of the year in all our resolutions. But actually, somehow the balance is just like being static. While the real integration, it means that the two worlds can flow. It's just like the movement, probably, of the yin and the yang, and they are flow and becoming some days white, some days black, and integrating it to each other. Because it's impossible to be 50% exactly in each uh part of our day, half and half. I have to say that sometimes I can recall. I also tried at some point last year to buy a timer and just say, okay, in between the two businesses that I run, Amtra, or then also with the free time, and just try to put the timer and say, okay, half of the day, 50% of the day is spent in one business and the other ones, of course, in the working other into the other business. And then I set, I don't know, that hour in the evening to do something for myself, on top of the fact that, of course, I would positioning that as the first element of starting my day as my morning practice. We need to accept that sometimes, some days, we have to be 100% in one world and 100% some other days into the other one. And that's not a failure in just allowing ourselves to be flexible, to flow, and know that actually the real equilibrium is without being judgmental, knowing and dipping in and out from these two situations. The second element, the second tip I would say, just being aware of your energy management. Uh, we are aware that, of course, our one one of the two walls is taking too much of our energy, it can be the day job if you are listening and you are having a day job, too much energy with colleagues into meetings, or also in our normal life with the people that are draining too much our energy in general, and also asking ourselves, okay, what drains you? What really uh what are the real things that you are doing? Because you feel that there is this obligation and there is no join to that. And for example, understanding what are those situations in which you feel recharge, like going out in nature, which should be a non-negotiable uh element for people, and exactly knowing what uh uh what to do in protecting your boundaries, which is of course the third element, the third tip that I would say. And understanding that actually the the boundaries are not in between the two walls, but uh in between yourself and understanding what is nourishing you, learning the say no not necessarily is a bad thing. Sometimes it's just protecting yourself so that then you can have more energy in order to uh help others and being able to actually do more. So it's just a self-care practice, but also sometimes being flexible because nowadays I feel, especially, I have to say, with very young people, this boundary is very subtle, it's very uh delicate, probably too much from my point of view. And when they feel that there is too much going on, then they say, I need to protect my boundaries, I can't do more than that. Things are draining and draining and draining me. But over there we need to learn to become warriors. Over there we need to learn the resilience, over there we need to learn how to go with that. And once we have learned how to go with that, once we have learned all the way to become stronger, then we can go back and create it, but not straight away at the beginning. Because I feel too much from people for which I can clearly say and see that there would be space to go for more, that they haven't reached their full potential in trying and going over that element a little bit nearer to their boundary. And so they need to expose themselves a little bit further because it's where they build their core element, they can become stronger. And I'm saying that because I've passed through a lot of situations in my life in which really, as I've shared in the last episode, I was working till midnight, but now I'm not scared when there are very long hours of work. Actually, I need to learn to stop earlier, but I can only do that because I've gone beyond the borders, because I know what I'm capable of. And I know also that that resilience is needed in some other situations in life. And also another tip that I can give is building those daily habits to small rituals that can be just at the beginning of the day, considering that before going out into the two split walls, into the different walls, the center is here in your own heart. Just sitting for five, ten minutes, one hour, how long you have, and closing your eyes and connect with your heart, so that then you are just back here to this present moment, and then you can go out there and facing all the challenges that are coming. And of course, if you are a spiritual person and you got your own personal practice, that can be meditation, that can be yoga, that can be sitting in front of your candle, speaking to your guides, praying. If you believe in one God, many gods and your deities, just practice those small uh daily rituals, which are actually the only way to anchor you, they can give you that stability that you need to go out and face your daily challenges and your daily battles. And for sure, the last tip that I can give is knowing that you are working your own natural cycles. So, not necessarily because people are saying to you it's the end of the year, you need to let go, it's the beginning of the year, you need to write your own wishes, listen to your own inner cycle, listen to your own inner season. In order to start, you need the energy. In order to close, you need to be able to let go. So ask yourself, where does my energy feel right now? Where do I need to place myself in this element of visibility or retreating and listening to what this inner voice is saying to me and just go with that? But whatever you are respecting, just don't stop walking. Even if the two worlds sometimes seem very much opposite to each other, don't stop walking.