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S1 EP15: When the body, the soul, and the system collide with Cori Wilkie

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What does it really mean to walk between worlds, not as a concept, but as a lived, embodied reality?

In this episode of Walking Between Worlds, Giada sits down with Cori Wilkie, founder of KOA Edinburgh, trauma-informed somatic therapist, and justice practitioner, for a deeply honest conversation about identity, integrity, and what it costs (and gives) to live between very different realities.

Cori shares her journey from yoga and Reiki into trauma-informed somatic work, shaped by personal trauma, surgery, and the long road back into the body. Together, Giada and Cori explore what happens when spiritual practice meets structured systems, when soul-led work exists alongside criminal justice, and when freedom and responsibility pull in opposite directions.

This is a conversation about:

  • navigating multiple identities without losing yourself
  • staying grounded when your worlds ask different things of you
  • trauma, nervous systems, and listening to the body as truth
  • justice, compassion, and why “being strong” is wildly misunderstood
  • grief, loss, and trusting life even when it hurts

Tender, fiery, reflective, and real, this episode is for anyone who has ever felt split between who they are and where they stand.

Connect with Cori Wilkie:

Cori works primarily in Edinburgh with in-person workshops, and also offers online group work, collaborations, and trauma-informed training in community and corporate settings.

Connect with Giada Gaslini:

About the Host

Originally hailing from the vibrant city of Milan, I’ve spent the past two decades traversing the globe in a quest for spiritual and personal growth and combined with 25 years of international corporate work experience. From navigating the vast landscapes of Australia in a campervan to finding tranquility living in a Buddhist monastery in Nepal, my journey is nothing short of extraordinary. Along the way, I’ve delved deep into Buddhist teachings, yoga, and shamanism, becoming Shamanic Teacher,  Forest Therapy Guide, Esoteric Numerologist, Shamanic and Integral Yoga Teacher and Ikigai Coach. In 2013 I settled in Edinburgh, where  I founded the Art and Spirituality Centre, a social enterprise and the School of Shamanism, where I passionately help others on their own transformative journeys.

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CHAPTERS

Welcome Cori Wilkie

Wearing two hats without losing yourself

Letting go of “I’m not enough”

The practice of balance

Where to find Cori

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Cori

You don't have to be strong. You don't have to be resilient. All you have to do is trust the process. Trust yourself.

Giada

Hello everyone from School of Shamanism, and welcome to my podcast and YouTube Walking in Between Walds, which are conversations with the healers, practitioners, and people that are at intersection between two different walls, which can be any. And I have the pleasure today to be here with Cory Wilkie from COA, a great friend and professionals, and we've been working together and we are restarting working together right now. Thank you so much, Cory, for accepting my invitation. So I'm asking you first of all to introduce yourself and also let us know what are the worlds that you're walking in between. Oh gosh, you know, yeah.

Cori

First of all, my name is Corey Wilkie, and I'm the face of CoA based in Edinburgh. I also have Co Unplug the Podcast, and Giada was actually my first guest on that podcast. And I was saying before we started that I have never been on a podcast. So this feels very yes, so yeah, my name is Corey. I yeah, I'm the face of COA, and COA is basically a trauma-informed service that um works with the nervous system and works with the soma. Um, I started many, many moons ago as a yoga teacher, then got into Reiki and all sorts of other things. And after going through my own trauma experience a couple of years ago, that kind of I basically had surgery, had then some complications, and after that started having to really start to reconnect with my body. And this is where I got into the nervous system side of things and somatic work. So, very much like Giada, I've kind of evolved as a professional, and um, I currently would say that my approach is very integrative. So I try and bring everything that I do into my work. For those that work with me, whether it's in a group setting or one-to-one, you'll know that I'll bring sound, I'll bring Reiki, I'll bring the somatic side of things. But everything is grounded in trauma-informed practice. Um, and I currently identify, and I say currently because it keeps changing, but I currently identify as a trauma-informed integrative somatic therapist. That felt like it kind of brought it all together. I'm really passionate about working with people where they are, about acknowledging the fact that we are only human and we all experience different emotions, we all have life experiences. This life is bumpy and crazy, and we want to navigate it. Certainly at the moment, I've become just really passionate about working with people, particularly in groups, and offering a space where people feel witnessed, feel heard, feel supported, can co-regulate and be together. There's something so magical about that. So that is in a nutshell kind of who I am and what I do. And then as for this question about walking between these two worlds, I think this is actually a really interesting one and a difficult one in many ways, because I know that I walk through many different worlds and wear many different hats, whether it's with my partner in my relationship, or in my day job, or my business, or even just as a human being day to day, right? These are all different personas. But if I was to choose two, I would probably say that the main, I think two worlds I'm in is definitely my day job, which is working in justice in Edinburgh as part of the council. Um I work in a trauma-informed therapeutic team where we do group work and one-to-one work. And then, of course, my business COA, which is trauma-informed and integrative, but they are very different in many ways. As much as there's a few overlaps, because in my justice role, I'm also a specialist compassion and mindfulness trainer for social workers. But there's a big difference between working for a big organization and then having your own business and the way you can navigate those worlds, how I need to be as a person as well, emotionally, consciously, physically.

Wearing two hats without losing yourself

Giada

So those are probably my two big worlds, which was, of course, what the world that I was thinking about. And I would say that at least they have in common that you help others in a different way. You are healing others in different forms. Well, when I was uh walking in between my ex two worlds, which were spirituality incorporate, uh, yes, I was kind of uh helping others, but not in the way that I would uh that I would think or identify as helping others nowadays. So it was a massive uh inner split of uh self-crisis at some point, of identity crisis at some point. Who am I? What am I? So you some days experience any crisis within yourself when you need to change the hat.

Cori

Oh definitely. I think when I work in my role of co- in my business, there's a freedom in that, that I choose what I want to do, what work I want to do, the people that I work with. There's a freedom to be really fluid also when I am working with people and pivot between things. There's a creativity, there's also an element of working with energy as well, which is really important. And I do find that in that side of my life, the people that sign up to work with me, they're very open. They want to transform, they want to make changes, they're also excited to try new things, and I can be very free within that. I don't have an organization that has specific rules and policies that constrain me in many ways. So that's the big thing. So I do find there has definitely been moments that are conflicting, which are really difficult because I work, I'm very fortunate that I work in a team. There's only like three and a half. I say three and a half because one of them is part-time. I work in a very small team where we are all really passionate about the work that we do and so dedicated, but we do work for a big organization that has expectations. I work in justice, more specifically, criminal justice, which means, of course, as well from a legal perspective, from a risk perspective, there's going to be expectations of what I need to do. And as much as I try and work as creatively as I can with the clients that I work with in my day job, it is very different. It's a very different role. And I think I definitely have had moments where it did feel a little bit like a crisis, where at times I would question, should I fully be doing my business? Or actually, should I even give up my business and focus really on my work? Because there's a real challenge when you when you have your own business and you're able to be as creative as you want to be, and and you're able to explore things in a way that feel really kind of dynamic and ever-changing, and I can bring in how I'm changing and who I am, and cry and sometimes just be who I am, and then go into a workplace that obviously, understandably, is much more what's the word, much more restrictive is the wrong word, I think, because I'm quite lucky that I'm in quite a creative team, but more just and it's not professional either. I was gonna say professional, but it's not about professionalism, but there's just there's clear structures in place that's the best way to describe it. And that can be a challenge. That can really be a challenge. Um say, yeah, I've definitely had moments where I've questioned both sides of it.

Giada

And how do you keep I how actually do you stay faithful to yourself when actually yourself is not one own identity? How would you say pass an advice to be a piece of advice to people to say considering that you are the queen of being grounded? How would people how can people stay grounded when they are splitting between two realities, even if they're not what you are experiences, but they are two different realities in general in their life, in which they feel that they have to navigate both?

Cori

That's such a good question because it's a really difficult one, right? Because we have we we have it sometimes in certain family dynamics where we have to be a certain person or in our private lives or in our jobs. And again, it's this idea of the different hats, right? I think for me, I try and really try and stay true to the things that are important to me, which are my values. That's probably what I hold on to the most. And as much as I am a very grounded person, you'll know I'm also a very fiery person. No, no, no, no. I definitely have an opinion. But one thing I do keep coming back to is my ground values. And for me, that is about the biggest one for me is working in a non-judgmental way with people. And that doesn't matter actually whether it's my private life or my business or working in my day job, that non-judgmental approach, that curious approach of trying not to just assume anything. And we're only humans, so there's going to be times where we assume stuff, but trying not to assume anything. And again, working with a person or my colleagues on that level, those are the two big ones for me. And then I think the new one that I've discovered and I've been working with a lot is compassion. This idea that we are only humans, we make mistakes, we are not perfect, including myself, definitely. And just constantly trying to work from a place that feels that it's coming from the heart space, that again avoids that judgment that seems, yeah, just seems real. And I think another big thing for me as well is I'm very, and I think I've had this all my life, even when I was a child. For me, it's really important this idea of justice, which is interesting because I'm actually in justice in my day job. I'm someone that is very passionate about again, coming back to that non-judgment of things have to be fair. And I think I have a bit of a reputation for saying what I think. And I think this is a big part of it as well. Having a voice to express when I think something doesn't feel just or fair, or doesn't feel like it is um again, if it falls into that judgment side, I will have an opinion and I will say, and that helps me in both my worlds. It doesn't make my life easy by any means, but it definitely is a big part of it, just having my voice heard.

unknown

Yeah.

Giada

Yeah, yeah, it does. And that's definitely I wanted to ask like more a provocative question because you say something doesn't feel fair, but fair from an analysis of the issue manically, we would say the middle world, this physical reality. But what about if it's fair from your soul perspective?

Cori

This is the hardest one. It's quite, I think for me, it feels easier, of course, if I can feel that something isn't unfair from a systemic point of view or from a justice point of view, and I can have a real strong opinion. But I absolutely do keep coming back to my body and to my soul and my heart and my gut, whichever way you want to look at it. And if I feel deeply something isn't fair, that is really difficult because sometimes it's also difficult to even explain that.

unknown

Yeah.

Cori

Just to say this does deeply in the my whole essence of myself feels suffocating, feels disempowering, feels too much. And yet, actually, that is one of the most important things, I think, that we I know for myself that I constantly keep checking in with myself. How does this feel within myself? I've learned over the years to really start listening to my body above all else. The body is the soul, right? It's not just the body. The body is really listening to my soul and my inner self and my inner child and all those things. And you can really feel it. I don't know about others, and I I we've talked about this before. You can really feel it, right? When something doesn't feel right.

Letting go of “I’m not enough”

Giada

Yeah, exactly. And also sometimes the fact is that our soul has to experience something in our life that doesn't feel maybe right from the body point of view, but we have to pass through experiences to learn. And that's exactly what our soul asks for if there is an, as I always say, an existing uh reincarnation office where we go there and we want to learn these lessons in this life, but how it's going to happen. It's not something that we are aware of at the beginning, but we will find out. We ask to learn that lesson. So maybe it's not fair for ourselves, but it's fair for our soul. And whenever there is something that we go through a challenge, it means we can handle it. We have the strength to handle it. So with the people that think I'm not strong enough, I can't do it. How would you encourage them to find the strengths and the energy inside themselves to go through any adventures that is challenging us in life?

Cori

First thing I would say is this word strong is oh my gosh, we often so misunderstand it. Everyone talks about being strong and resilient. And and I would just say, boo to that, boo to that, because actually, this is today. You don't have to be strong, you don't have to be resilient. All you have to do is trust the process, trust yourself. I'm a big person about trusting the universe. That's not for everyone, it's certainly me, but have something that you trust at the core of you that you know that however painful something might be, it is a lesson that you're being gifted with. And this is where I guess for me, because I'm all about working with the soma, right? I keep coming back to that body and just that trust in yourself, whether it's your higher self, whether it's your soul or your heart or your body, just keep coming back to that and trusting whatever is happening right now, it is life. Life is not perfect, life is never going to be perfect. There's gonna be moments of joy, of sadness, of anger, of frustration, of infuriation, of loss, but that is part of being in this life, and it's actually a really messed up gift because there's so many moments in our lives where it doesn't feel like a gift, and yet we have to step back and come home to ourselves, listen to our hearts, deep into our soul, and trust that this is part of our journey, it's part of our journey in this crazy life, and I think for me, that is my biggest effort that I keep coming back to. I mean, as you know, I very sadly very recently lost the love of my life, my cat Leo, which has been incredibly painful. But I also know that it is another lesson, it's another gift and another reminder that life isn't meant to be straightforward and loss is part of life, sadness is part of life. Yeah, but there's also joy and there's also love, and there's so many beautiful things, and I think remembering that, just holding on to that, remembering that for me is the key.

Giada

Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. And that don't not just on those occasions that come into our life when there are these um unhappy happenings, but daily, daily, every time we we wake up, there are uh symbolical losses that we are going through. Uh also the losses of attachments of beliefs. Sometimes we need to lose false beliefs because we are constantly basing our life on something that we think it's real, but it's just as if it was real. We're just like living it is a reality, it's just a projection of our mind, and we need to change the perspective all the time. Yes.

Cori

And I think you're so right. This is one of the big things, right? We should try. It's one thing I've learned over my many, many years is to try not to get stuck, right? Because we we do, we can get stuck in thinking this is my belief system, and this is what I am, and this is who I am, and people believe that, and we educate others to treat us certain ways, and we can get really stuck and block ourselves rather than again being open to change, to evolution, to that journey of life. And when you start doing that, nothing's ever perfect, but there's this shift, isn't there? Yeah, where you can start going, hold on, maybe that's an old body, maybe that's an old version of myself. Yeah, we can rewrite our story every day, every moment if we would like to.

Giada

Exactly. And if you have to show, what would be like one of the biggest moments in which your question a big belief in your life?

Cori

Oh gosh, yeah. I think probably the biggest belief that I held for a very long time and I still struggle with, is this idea of I'm not enough, I'm not deserving of everything that I have. And that feels painful, even saying that out loud. And I know logically, if anyone said that to me, I'd be like, what the hell? You know, that's so not true. And but that's the logical mind, right? That's the logical mind. And but deep inside, for a long time I've felt like that. Being someone who's always struggled with overachieving and has my own trauma in my background, like we all have stuff. There was this constant inner critic of, you know, you're just lucky so far. You've just been lucky, you're not really enough. You're not really, this is never gonna last, you know. And luckily, I have had I've really sat with that and I work with that actively. And I'm in a very different place these days. I still have the inner critic who doesn't, where it goes, oh, well, you know, you could do this differently or whatever. But it's not at the point of, I used to really feel it like in my gut, kind of like, yeah, you're just not enough.

Giada

You have to do more, you have to keep doing more. Yeah. Um, which is what they are all asking to do more from the system, from other people in our life, maybe family situations. Uh, they want us to be the best possible, like we can be in that field, in that environment at work specifically, or in some relationships, and that never comes to an end because the moment we reach a border, it extends. We know that we can do more and more and more, so it never comes to an end. And so it's a constant um element of unhappiness. Yes, because we don't think that we've ever reached the peak for which we are happy over there. Of course, we happiness is not uh recognizable when you see it and you reach a peak and you reach a situation in which you feel really fulfilled, it's constantly changing and evolving. So it's always it's always dancing that it's an ongoing process of learning, for sure.

Cori

I think that is the key, the learning, being open to learning as well. Um, being open to uh actively working with something that you want to change. And it is about wanting actively to change something, and it it's and there, of course, there's recognition, right? First you have to recognize it, yeah. Which for a lot of people we work, we just kind of go through this life on autopilot, and it's so it's too painful. So we don't look at it, we just keep going, and and the cycle just repeats itself again and again and again and again. And then we wonder where we're in a place where we we it's almost like a self-fulfilling prophecy where you then end up going, okay, like for me, I I don't think I'm worthy, so I repeat the patterns and then I confirm that actually I'm not worthy. It's like it's ridiculous, it's ridiculous, yeah. I guess this is where it's wonderful having people in your life as well, these connections with humans, whether it's friends or family, or even if you go to a workshop where you feel a connection in that moment where you realize, first of all, you're not alone with a lot of your thoughts on how you feel and all this stuff, because we're human. But also, yeah, you know, I'm not the only one who wants to change things, who wants to do things differently. Uh, it's really empowering. Yeah, absolutely.

Giada

We are all of the same, but we are different modalities. Oh, completely, completely.

Cori

Yeah, but it is a it's a huge topic, I think. And I know, I don't know about you, I have so many clients that I work with and people that I meet that have all the same stuff. It's not new, you know. This especially the kind of not feeling worthy is a big one.

Giada

It's a big one that comes up for a lot of people, which I find because because it's one of your yours. Well, I kind of tend to find clients that that come around with the issues that I have. It's so true. Normally, sometimes when I work in a one-to-one session, I always have a client that is coming to me with the same things that I'm working on, and I always start the session internally. I don't share that. I say, I know. Thank you for sending another client who is working with something that I'm working to. Yes.

Cori

It's so true, though, isn't it? And I think that's another wonderful thing, isn't it? So, as much as I know, we both hold very professional spaces, you know, it's not about that we're boundary and all of that. But when we are in the spaces, we bring our most authentic self. So, of course, it's things that move us as well that we learn from, that we grow with, and that's so amazing, it's such a gift, you know. It's but it's so true, it's so true. I know the amount of times I've had that too, where I'm like, oh my gosh, exactly, yes.

Giada

And still over there, we need all the space, we need to guide the person because it's part of our uh of our work, yeah. And then, of course, I mean the modalities are never exactly the same, but the pattern of normalities are and I find that at the end of the sessions, I got of course something as the session that it's never me doing the session, it's always the allies that are working with me, but it's also something for which I've learned, yeah, but it's one of those things, isn't it?

Cori

I know again, it's that learning. If we are open to it, every opportunity that we have and every moment in our life that we have, and you're right, there could be day to day, that could be all the time. It's an opportunity to learn and grow, and that's actually, I think that makes me very hopeful when I think of that. It makes me hopeful because then actually you can keep working on being that version of yourself that you want to be. Um, you know, the more we can. Stop feeling overwhelmed, stop feeling angry or frustrated. And these are all healthy feelings and emotions to have. But the more we can make too much space for that, the more we have space for that joy, that love, that connecting with our soul, with our body, with our hearts. Uh, and that's actually where we are the best version of ourselves, right? And that's so amazing. So it's yeah, yeah.

Giada

And so do we say that at some point in life is the last way. Often we need to make a choice in which world to leave, in which world to identify ourselves, or actually the key is like we're saying with this in the middle way, and learn and learning to surf that wave and navigating between the different or the two worlds constantly all the time.

Cori

I don't know the answer. Which is why I took a deep breath there. I was like, How long do we have?

Giada

Oh well. I'll ask you again around the night here. Welcome back.

Cori

Oh my gosh. And well, that's another thing, isn't it? The answer would be different each time. But at this point in time, in this moment, um I often talk about balance a lot. It's balance for me, is one of the key things in navigating this crazy world uh and the different worlds that we're in and the different states that we're in. Uh, I think it is about finding a balance that's right for you. And that can be really difficult because I think we can sometimes, and I've had this myself, but in jobs where I spend most of my time, because jobs take up, you know, if you have a full-time job, it takes up really a huge amount of your time. Well, I've been miserable and I felt exhausted, and there's been mornings where I just didn't even want to go to work. And that just it just drains your energy. It's horrible. It's just this whole somatic experience of just you just want to hide, you know. Um, and that I think is where you need to start questioning is it worth it? You know, and that doesn't mean that we're gonna have times in our lives, you know, nothing is perfect. So we're gonna have times in our lives where actually we have to keep working or we have to have these challenging moments, even in family situations, we can't just suddenly get rid of our families. But it's about finding that balance. If you have something, and I've had this in my life, if I have something that really takes my energy and I feel is going against my values, my soul, my everything, then I have to make sure that when I'm not in that, I'm doing other things that give me energy. Yeah, make me feel fulfilled. So it's constant balance. And for me, with my true worlds, I'm currently very fortunate that, and there's been other times where I've not been like this, but if we ask me today, I will say I'm currently fortunate that I have a day job which I still really am passionate about. I get so much from, I feel like we're making a difference at the moment. Really look forward to going to work, and I'm grateful for that. There's been other times, and then in my co-business as well, I feel like it's definitely in a place where it feels really aligned with where I'm at. So I feel really lucky. And there's been other times when it's not been like that, but right now, so it's that balance, and then I guess the other bit is still making time for you, especially when you have your own business, and we were talking about this actually. Um terrible, like just be like, but you know, you have your own business, and then I have my day job as well. Business is business is businesses, and then I'm studying at the moment as well, just mix, like it's ridiculous.

Giada

Yeah, because Scotty didn't know enough. Just decided to add another meal or specification.

Cori

It's insane. So when I say that loud, I'm always like, oh gosh, I'm just tired thinking about it. But so it is I I don't know sometimes how I do it either. Sometimes I'm just really tired. I'm just really tired. But yeah, you've again it's the balance. So making time for things that are just for you. Like I already started last year, really starting to, again, myself for myself, attending workshops, attending events, um, going for a reiki session, you know, uh doing stuff, me, going for that walk on my own or meeting with friends for a coffee more. And I really want to keep taking that into the rest of this year, making moments just for me.

Giada

2026 is already full, so I think 2007 is free. Oh, do you know it's cooking?

Cori

So you're booking, right? But yeah, it's I think it is the key thing of carving out space. And I know you have had the same, right?

Giada

It's constantly carving out that space for ourselves, which is just for yeah, which is it's just beautiful because you also use the carving. It's something challenges. I we can already visualize a rock. Trying to find something comes natural, and we are unable to put ourselves as a priority. It's all true.

Cori

But that is something I've always struggled with. Again, being an overachiever, anyway, right? We know this. I think this is why we've always gone so well because we're both we both are constantly challenged by having to put ourselves first to make time just for us. We're amazing at throwing ourselves into our business and giving and and all this, and believing in our purpose and all these amazing things, but we often will come second, if not third or fourth. And I know it's quite nice because whenever we come together, we remind each other of fact. Are you making time for you? Are you doing something for you? Um but it is a difficult one when you when you are naturally like it's really tough, and yet we have to do it. Absolutely.

Giada

It's a just to have the energy to give more to others, that's also if we need to explain that from an altruistic point of view, not just to be because we we can't give if we are empty. Yeah, there's always the problem is that we have a lot of energy, and a lot of times people say, I don't know how we can rule with all your energy and still giving so sometimes people have a low level of energy, which is true. Yeah, we are it's just natural, I know.

Cori

Well, it is, and we are more of a rare breed, I'm realizing as well. You know, I can count probably on one hand people that I know that are like us, and that can be there's the two sides, right? There's the one side where it's amazing how much we can do and the energy we have and how much we can carry and be with and all that, but then there's the other side where we can also just sometimes push it too far and we can crash. And I've had those moments in my life, and I have to constantly remind myself to yeah, make time, find balance. Um, I'm very lucky that I have an amazingly, and I have to give him a shout-out, an amazing, amazingly supportive husband who constantly says to me, You're doing too much, you have to do this. Can I record him? And a listen to his work. Very fortunate, you know, he is really hugely supportive of what I do, but also knows that sometimes it goes too far, and he is the first then to point it out. I'm probably one of the very few people in my life that knows me so well after 27 years that he can be, I'll be like, Yeah, you're right, you're right. So I'm lucky that I have him as a big reminder.

Giada

Um, but it is a tricky one. Yeah, it's really tricky. Not for everyone because I see young people nowadays, younger than us. Let's say they have themselves as a preliminary. Many times when they realize what is they have put themselves in too many situations for which I honestly have to say I could handle other 10 more things on top of that. And they say already it's enough. It's true.

Cori

And I find out with the new generation in particular, you really are noticing that shit. And I think, yeah, it's again again, it comes to balance. And you're and knowing yourself. I think this is the key thing we were talking about, right? Just knowing yourself because we are all different, as you say, and you're so right. What we think for us is manageable and fine, other people probably have a nervous breakdown. Yes, exactly. Again, this comes back to the whole non-judgment, right? The whole non-judgment. I for I don't know, like I for a very long time, and I'll admit this for a very long time would struggle, and I still sometimes struggle when I'm around people that are not as fast as me and not able to do as much as me. And that is so unfair because they're being there themselves. It's not their fault. They are who they are, but I know it's a real struggle for me. I mean, gosh, you know, like bless my husband. I was telling you, we were laughing about this the other day because um, so he's gotten used to it now. He loves to share things in detail and talk about stuff, and it's actually a beautiful thing. Yeah, like if he goes on holiday, he'll come back and share every single detail of his holiday. I'm not like that. I come back and I give the snaps, you know, but he's now gotten used to me kind of going, he'll see me glaze over, and then eventually I'll just say, okay, a bit quicker. Okay. Even shorter. So just the highlights. Nice and soul, like who's gotten so used to it now? Because I can't, I just start just I'm not even listening anymore because it's going too slow for me. And it's such a shame because actually it's a beautiful thing, didn't it? Or I've worked with colleagues that it takes them maybe triple the time that it would take me to do something. And in the past, I would really struggle with that and not be very compassionate. And that's not fair. So, yeah, anyway, that's my personal that's fine.

Giada

Thank you so much, Cory. And where where can people can find you every everywhere? So, for people then, of course, I will add all the details below, but where can people find you to work with you?

Cori

Oh gosh. So, um, I am currently doing uh monthly women only schematic workshops here at the Orange Spirituality, which is wonderful. Thank you for that opportunity in Edinburgh. Uh so yeah, my face-to-face events are all in Edinburgh, just to be really clear. I think that's probably the easiest thing to say. Um, my other kind of location is the Salisbury Center, where I do a variety of things. I do, however, also offer sessions online. I'm currently not really doing one-to-ones, it's more group sessions. But yeah, I work with companies, whether it's corporate or community settings or for workshops. I do a lot of collaborations, including the one upcoming with Giada, where we're doing our um kind of moving between the worlds, the uh kind of astral traveling journeying.

Giada

Yeah, as this podcast that will be around uh um April time, we have already run this workshop when we're listening. But maybe there is another one that uh is is coming. So there we go. But yes, um copying.

Cori

My website is www.coa-edinborough.co.uk. You can find me on all forms of social media. I am on TikTok, on YouTube, on oh my gosh, Instagram, Facebook, you name it. I am there. Um if it doesn't exist, shadow didn't come. Definitely. And yeah, I love working with people. So if you're interested. Join Instagram, you are coa. I think it's co-Edinburgh on Instagram. I think most of them are co-etinborough. Yeah, I think so. But if you go on my website, all the links are there, so you can absolutely find everything there. I love people reaching out to me, so get in touch. I'd love to hear from you. Wonderful. Yeah, there we go.

Giada

Wonderful. Thank you so much, Cory. It was been really huge, huge, huge pleasure from my heart to have this wonderful conversation with you. I'm looking forward to having you again. Oh like uh I've been uh twice on your podcast, so I'm really looking forward to having you again with a new topic.

Cori

Amazing. Thank you so much for having me. My first ever podcast, very excited.

Giada

Excited, I was your first guest, and you've been and you've been the the first guest from your staff in my wonderful, thank you so much. Thank you again. Thank you.