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S1 EP23: Choosing simple in a world that wants more with Amy

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In this episode of Walking Between the Worlds, I’m joined by Amy, founder of Good Vibrations Northeast, based between Durham and Newcastle.

What began as a personal struggle with anxiety, panic attacks and depression became the catalyst for something much bigger, a full-day wellbeing event held at the beautiful Beamish Hall, bringing together movement, inspirational talks, healing practices and community.

Amy shares openly about reaching breaking point, questioning the “just take the tablets” approach, and deciding to try everything, therapy, mindfulness, movement, nature, books, community, until something began to shift.

We speak about burnout, the pressure to always be busy, social media overwhelm, and the courage to choose a slower, more intentional life. We explore the balance between solitude and community, the healing power of being barefoot in nature, and the simple but powerful question:

Do I really need this… or do I just want it?

This is a conversation about reclaiming your energy, simplifying your life, and remembering that self-care is not selfish, it is essential.

P.S. the event on 21st June has unfortunately been cancelled in the meantime. We hope to see it again soon 

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About the Host

Originally hailing from the vibrant city of Milan, I’ve spent the past two decades traversing the globe in a quest for spiritual and personal growth and combined with 25 years of international corporate work experience. From navigating the vast landscapes of Australia in a campervan to finding tranquility living in a Buddhist monastery in Nepal, my journey is nothing short of extraordinary. Along the way, I’ve delved deep into Buddhist teachings, yoga, and shamanism, becoming Shamanic Teacher,  Forest Therapy Guide, Esoteric Numerologist, Shamanic and Integral Yoga Teacher and Ikigai Coach. In 2013 I settled in Edinburgh, where  I founded the Art and Spirituality Centre, a social enterprise and the School of Shamanism, where I passionately help others on their own transformative journeys.

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CHAPTERS

Welcome Amy from Good Vibrations

Turning breakdown into breakthrough

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Nature is the healer

Where to find Amy

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Amy

It's like, have you getting yourself in a situation where the stuff that you want is actually you become a slave to it? So it's like some people have always got to have the biggest latest car or the latest phone or all of these different things. It's like you've got to ask yourself: is all of that really necessary.

Welcome Amy from Good Vibrations

Giada

We are in the season walking in between walls, and I've got the pleasure today to have uh Amy from Good Vibe. She's based in Newcastle, and I'm really, really happy to have her here. Also, because we will speak about uh a little bit later uh the event that she's uh organizing on the 21st of June, and I'm really, really very honored to be part of it. Thanks so much, Amy. Would you like to let us know a little bit about what you do among the all the different things in life? Yes, yeah.

Amy

Hi, thank you for the lovely introduction. Um yes, so well, I don't need to say my name again, you've already said that. Um yeah, I think a little bit about the event and things that I host. It's yeah, it's in Newcastle. Well, it's in between, it's in between Durham and Newcastle, about a 20-minute drive nestled in between. Um, it's run at Beamish Hall, which is like a lovely big country house with beautiful grounds and things like that. So we feel like we're a little bit out of the way of all the hustle and bustle of the world. And it's an event which is based on health and well-being, really. We're trying to provide workshops where people can have some movement, some inspirational talks, where they can learn a little bit about maybe some of the pain things that they've been dealing with in their life, like how to deal with maybe anxiety and things like that, or some aspirational subjects, which is more like how to manifest your dream life and things like that. So it's a full day, there's lots going on, and like I say, I'm very grateful to have you in things coming down, having a workshop with us this year. So that's gonna be beautiful.

Giada

Oh, no, I can't wait.

Amy

Yeah, yeah, it'll be lovely.

Giada

Yeah, and and

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Giada

why have you decided to start this uh event or to to to be very much into the holistic community?

Amy

Um, I started the event in 2024, and I did there was I think we did well, I think a lot of think, think, think, and they're going on. I started with one in the spring and then we did another one in the fall. And then this year I decided to cut back in things a little bit and just do the one. Um, but it kind of came off the back a little bit, if you like, of me um really struggling with my mental health, having a bit of a a meltdown, and just really trying to understand myself a little bit better. So it's like, why am I dealing with huge amounts of stress? Why am I dealing with um huge amounts of anxiety, panic attacks, which and things which led into quite deep depression and things for a while, and just really trying to figure out, get a broader understanding of what the hell is going on with us. Because initially I went to the doctors and they just said, Oh, here, take the tablets. And I thought that that's fair enough, that is that is one option. Thank you very much. But when I was asking for what other options there was, there wasn't really a lot. So it was just exploring, it was trying to figure out what were my thoughts, what was going on with myself, why I was feeling this way. Um, and then just starting to think of what some different practices and things that I could do. For me, it was very much a token therapy, then mindfulness, and then movement. And then the further I've gone down my journey, the more things I've started to think about instead of just surviving, how do I get myself to thrive, like what do I really enjoy doing, what lights me up? Like, how do I start creating a beautiful life and things for myself? And what does that look like? And I just think going through all of that, at least for me, was quite difficult and it took an awfully long time. Um, and I know at the time I was daunted and I didn't know what to do or where to turn. So I thought if I've got a space where, depending on what it is that you've got going on with you, because there's lots of things going on at the event during the day, you can just tap into what feels right for you. So that was kind of the foundations of where it started. And then the further that I've gone on and things with the event, I'm just I'm meeting more wonderful people. It's it's like I'm learning about different practices as you're doing things all the time and you're like, oh my goodness, what's this? Yeah. And you're inviting them to come down and kind of be part of it with just the hope again of like it just just supports people, whether it's whether you're kind of where hours, where you're at the start of your journey and you just don't know what to be doing with yourself and you're looking for that, or whether you're actually you're feeling good and you just want to be around some like-minded people and enjoy looking after yourself because you know when you look after yourself you feel good and truly everybody around your benefits, you know. Yes, because you also you have that energy to give. Well, nobody it's it sounds really, really stupid, and I can never figure out how to fully articulate it in a way that sounds right, but people always think looking after yourself is is is a is a selfish act. But in truth, when when you're on your ass, like it's you you can't help anybody, you're just a no-fit state. You can't even get yourself up. Yeah, you can't even get yourself up and out of bed. And who do you think you're helping being in that state? Whereas when you're feeling more energetic and you love yourself and you're doing things that nourish you, you become like this little duracell mad bunny, don't you? It's like you're able to share it and bring people and things together, and it's just beautiful. So it's it really is, it's like self-love is the biggest gift you can give to yourself and anybody else, I believe. So on all subjects of that, really.

Giada

Yeah. Absolutely. And for people that struggle nowadays a lot, I mean, with anxiety, with all the the current issues that the water, the the what the modern world uh uh has, or probably they were also existing in in the old times, but they were different, probably less because there were there weren't the um so much needed uh evils like uh social media, phone, we were living uh healthier lives, uh and definitely the connections were more human with people. We would have written, I mean, it seems like a granny, we would have written letters. I I really loved receiving, waiting for the letter to come, especially from the pen pal in the States, or uh that uh friend, that person that you had met going to the seaside, and uh fine, there was the phone, but just also phoning the person who was a little bit too much and uh waiting for that piece of paper. So nowadays, when of course when there are all these challenges and there is too much offer, holistic offer. And I also have people here that come to the center and say, There is too much high uh uh here, and I don't know what to choose. How do

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Giada

you think people can align and understand what's right for them? Because sometimes they don't and they just deepen in and out sinks.

Amy

Yeah, with me, I didn't know. It's like I used to say to myself, Do you remember that um the movie Pretty Woman?

Giada

Yeah.

Amy

It's like I lost myself so much that I said, right, we're in pretty woman stage here. We've got to get all the eggs out and we've got to try all the bloody eggs. And for me, that's what worked. So it was like I stopped. I know it sounds funny, but it's like I think my head got us into the mess that I was in. So there was a degree of untrust within myself because I was just pushing myself, pushing myself, and pushing myself in a world that really I wasn't fitting in very particularly well. I could do it, but it just it was taking its toll on us. So because I had this distrust, I just went back to be really open-minded and be as curious about everything as you possibly can. Try not to have judgment on anything because the truth is, Amy, you don't know. Yeah, so I just went through a series of different things and I very much just went with my gut. But again, I had to build up the trust with my gut because my gut wasn't trusting us either.

Giada

Yes.

Amy

Um, and I said to myself, try things, don't have a knee-jerk reaction to it where you run away immediately, because a lot of the things you might sometimes, at least with me, I was very much don't just don't look at us. I was so self-conscious, I just I couldn't have what people thought of us. I was people constantly trying to people please and everything else, which kind of deflected us a lot from the experience that I was actually having. But what I found is if I stick something out for at least four or five goes, what I do is I'll get over the initial, oh my god, I'm going to die. Like of who am I going to talk to? What am I gonna say? Oh my god, God, I can't do this. It's like that that does once you just keep showing up, it disappears because you start building that muscle memory and things, don't you? So it's like your body starts going, Hold on, you haven't died, the apocalypse hasn't come. You are exactly what I mean. So it's like once you get through that, I think then you can start saying, Okay, now that I've calmed down a bit and I'm regulated, am I actually enjoying this activity or not? What is it that I wanted from it? Is it bringing his joy? Is it bringing his peace? Whatever the kind of goal that you set for yourself to get, is it is it working? So that's what worked for me personally. Yeah, but it's it's like it's it's trying to find that connection with self and build that up again, isn't it? It's like if that's what you've lost a little bit. Or sometimes you're so fucking extra. Sorry, you're so excited, you just your body's dragging you somewhere before you even know what it is. Sometimes with me now a little bit more. It's like I feel like I get like a giddy feel, I'm like, oh, there's something of interest over there. It's like so. I got again, I'm just lured by that in a lot of the time.

Giada

Yeah, yeah, because they offer us the I mean the inputs, the the um we've got so much stimulation in general from outside that sometimes it's destabilizing from people.

Amy

I think with me, what I try to do a little bit, it's like with with social media and things like that, because I think it really does um, I can feel myself if I've been on it quite a bit. It's it makes us very insecure, it puts us up to comparison a lot of the time. And then before I know it, I'm just sitting there, I'm actually quite fried, even though at first I was enjoying scrolling or micro researching and things like that. Or sometimes I like to go on and support friends and see what they're up to in the lives and things. But I as soon as you start into that scrolling of different stuff, you just end up feeling like crap, or at least I do, and it doesn't work very well for me at all. Whereas to be honest, it's like I think with me, I like to spend time in community with which with positive people. It's like it's it's been a huge impact for me. So consciously picking it's like who are the people who are saying there's 111 reasons to have a shit day, but I'm gonna try and really focus in on just for today, just for this time that I'm with these people on the good. I'm gonna compliment, I'm gonna say how you've been going, I'm gonna try and smile. And I get that that's not always possible, but you can even fake a till you make it for a little while. Do you know what I mean? And then those good moods will, I think, settle in. So I think I spend time with those type of people, and then personally, it's a lot of time by myself. I just love being in the woods by myself, just quiet.

Giada

Yeah, it's very charging uh time. It is your your your two walls are the 100% in the community surrounded by people and the time in nature by yourself.

Amy

Absolutely, yeah. But it's it's it's figuring out all these little different things as well. And I think with me, I'm a massive bookworm. It's like I love filling my head of of knowledge and reading about things. I find it amazing. But then at the same time, I can become very obsessive with that because I think I've got a bit of an obsessive personality. So I've got to I've got to learn when to say, put that down and pick up some sticks and craft or something, just get out of my head because I think we can we can spend a lot of time in here and we've got to learn learn sometimes to get out of that, and again, learning tools to just do that as well.

Giada

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Because I mean I love reading as well, but it just creates more food for thoughts. And then the fact is that all the time I'm dancing, and I and then I stop and I interact and I say, uh writing down notes of more things that I want to do. I can't concentrate on what I'm reading, unless it's a novel, like a story. When I'm in bed, I need to read something that doesn't have to do with my work. I mean, there is always some spiritual readings that I read, but maybe it's I don't know, a love story of a spiritual author that uh I don't know, it's uh digging into the akashic records or whatever, but it's a story.

Amy

Yeah, I'm the same. Um, I'm a little bit dark, really. I read um sometimes I read horrors. I love Stephen King's novels. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, because I like fantasy worlds and things like that, where it's all make-believe and create. Then sometimes it's like with Stephen, it's like he does these beautiful, beautiful characters that you feel like you really know. And it's like I love the way that he he writes and things about people in the human condition. Like he always seems to get the character's response to horror and everything else so full on that you feel like you're in there, you know.

Giada

I was like, Is there a character in which you say you're identifying yourself right now that you feel one of them? Oh, a horror one, no, no, like when we have got some horror moments sometimes, uh, when we've got we are around challenging people, let us say now I'm going to to be one of those characters.

Amy

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Giada

They are really tasting our patients.

Amy

And challenging people is is yeah, that really messes with my head. Trying to make sure that you stay in your values, you stay as a good person, and trying to really understand where the other person is at. Do you know what I mean? It's it's like and having compassion for whatever it is that's going on there, but at the same time keeping you cool and and whatever else, it's yeah, that's that's a mindful one.

Giada

Yeah, because then uh the the the first element would be to react straight away, especially if it's not a good day. Um I was gonna say it depends what day you can exactly brisa as I would love just to uh write straight away uh very fiery emails and I say, wait, wait, it will be at least you can still write it, but it will be approachable. It will much better, yeah.

Amy

But you are absolutely right. Once you start getting that, it's it's given the space, isn't it? It's it's taking the breath and creating the space just sometimes. Yeah, just sometimes you don't even want to make the space, you just like yeah, and you say, fine, at least it's out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I'll say. It's like go off, go off to somebody else and be useful. It's it's like it's done here now.

Giada

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Uh yeah, so

Nature is the healer

Giada

so your your your time in uh in nature that you spend uh um for for lots of I mean I always say that the best healer is uh is nature, and I always recommend to people with sometimes uh I mean that's the best uh healing for everything uh in uh in general. Um is there any any practice uh that you do by yourself when you go in nature or you just walk? Is it something that you like doing? It can also be just sometimes sit down by a tree or speaking.

Amy

Because I've got quite a um curvy personality, should I say that's how you describe it? Um so I think for some days it can just be walking, and if I feel like my head's quite busy, um sometimes I'll just take my socks and shoes off and I'll go barefoot because then I can't think because my feet hurt. So it's like I've and I've got to concentrate on where I'm going. Whereas other times like the the woods, or if I'm going on a mountain thing, it can just seem like like I really with gratitude and things, it's probably where I practice quite a lot of gratitude and things when I'm outside, and just like looking at the wonder of everything of it. And it's just sometimes it can just be the most beautiful space in the world, just sitting and watching the way a light's hitting a tree, and it can just seem like you're just part of magic. I can't figure out another way to describe it, and then other times it's just it's watching just the little birds and things where they just come and you can just imagine life sitting up there and they're all going round and they're chasing the little insects and things like that. So and then other times I can just feel like just poetry flies out of my gob, or other times I'll feel like singing along to whatever the tune is in my head, and I go to a lot of places where I know there's not really anybody, so I'm belting songs out.

Giada

Yeah, that's beautiful. That's the the the it's really a nice element. I really love this powerful of being barefoot. It's something that I miss from my own, from the a little bit warmer country where I was born. Uh, sometimes here I feel yes colder. Uh that's part of it.

Amy

It's like in the northeast, it's you really like it's the majority of the time the sky is grey. Do you know what I mean? It's it really is. But I think it's you get you get a good wardrobe, you learn jumpers, coats, all the rest. I just think sometimes if you're waiting for the sunny day to get out and enjoy life, you think. But you would never it would never have time. Yeah, you just wait and you've got to make the most of it, haven't you?

Giada

Yeah. But I like yes, I like being barefoot. I mean, for for for sure, many times at home. Uh but something that I miss being barefoot outside.

Amy

Yeah, it's beautiful. You just feel so much more connected. And it's like when you're walking through, it's like, again, I've got I've got one walk, which because I live in the woods, right beside the woods. And I like to, you know, I know it sounds crazy, but it's like you're saying hello to the trees, yeah, you're picking the wrong weeds and things out that aren't in the area, you're lit up picking, it's like you kind of this area looks after me. Do you know what I mean? So it's like you it's that reciprocal relationship where it's like, I'll pick up and I'll take care of this, and then you've got me because you're giving us air and this wonderful space to be in. Do you know what I mean? It's that I think as I'm getting older, it's that deeper appreciation for like Mother Earth and everything that it gives us, you know, which is I think is beautiful. And sometimes we get so busy that we forget it's like we're part of it because we're in these little boxes, we forget massively that we are just one with message, you know what I mean? It's like, and we've got to have this beautiful taking care of each other relationship, otherwise it just doesn't work. But anyway, that's a whole new story.

Giada

Yeah, exactly. And there are so many people that don't go out in nature regularly. Um they are in cities uh uh or uh they are just lazy, I can say lazy, uncomfortable. We we all have those days, uh especially when it's windy, rainy, and it's uh really supposed to go out.

Amy

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it is. But it's you just feel agitable for me anyway. Like I know it works for me. Do you know what I mean? So it's you gotta find out what's right for you for some people. It's like for my other half, walking outside. He said his head feels fuzzy. Just like, is it not just it feels clear?

Giada

And he's like, No, it's oftentimes exactly when I can't make a decision, or I've seen, I mean, I've been to be just also going out and just do the walk of the around the square where you are or whatever, it clears my mind because you just change the perspective, you just feel the fresh air. Uh, you see other people either just distracted out of your uh loop of your mind for for 10 minutes, 15 minutes, 20 minutes, or whatever, and then it's fine. And say then I say, okay, so that I'm here, let's go to the park, because it's will be an entirely different world when I'm coming back. Yes, yeah. And that problem will not feel as much as a problem anymore.

Amy

Absolutely. It's creating the distance, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah.

Giada

Yeah, exactly. And for people, for people that can't go out from their loop, what would you recommend to do? They say, Yeah, yeah, but I've tried and I can't. I'm so much stuck into that.

Amy

Um what would I don't know is that we I don't know. I mean, it's uh I've never really lived in like a city environment. Okay, you'll be lucky. Yeah, I don't really have something to kind of benchmark it on, but I know when I was starting in the early stages, it's like um somebody used to like the word bullshit just came up a lot. So when I was speaking to somebody at first, I was like, God, I'm so busy, they were like bullshit. I was like, what do you mean bullshit? And they were like, You're choosing to be busy. I was all right, okay. And just it was just that constant, like so. It's like I used to do journaling of how am I spending my time and how am I assigning jobs and what am I picking to be in my life? And once I started doing that, I realized I could make a little bit of space for the things that I want to do, like stop saying yes to things that piss you off, like stop trying to do everything, and like when your boss is maybe asking for loads of extra time. Well, no, you you you work within the time constraints of your own thing. Do you know what I mean? And it's I think there's loads of things when you sit there and be really truthful with yourself, you'll probably find there's a bit of space. It's like scrolling. You we've seen the stats on how much time people are spending on them, or Netflix, even those stranger things is absolutely amazing. Oh yeah. Sometimes it's like, Wait, where do you want to spend your time and what's the story that you're telling yourself about it? It's like I used to beat myself up sometimes about being slow, whereas now I'm going, okay, you want to slow down, how do we match? This out. Do you want to get your best like cacao out, or do you want to be hot chocolate? Do you want to get your blanket washed the day before so it smells bloody lush when you're in there? Do you want to get your favourite book? Like and understanding that if that's what I want my rest time to be. How do I make it as beautiful for myself as possible? And then when I do feel like I'm resting, I feel like I really have made the most of it because I've maxed it out instead of just going, Oh, can't be bothered, I'm going to watch Netflix. It's the story that I tell myself, I find very much is what keeps me right. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I think people can make time, but I think there's the exception of a few that probably can't. And yeah, when for example, I was in the corporate world.

Giada

In the corporate world organizing events, I couldn't actually say to my boss, No, I will have to go because you know that an event has to be organized. Uh one, more than one who was organizing eight, nine conventions at the same time. So, and there are so many um unpredictable things, uh, last minute changes that you can't say at some point, look, finish my time, whatever. I was, I actually was in an ongoing uh 24-7 mood, and I done then for so many years. Uh the only possible choice was to step out of that work. Not to choose to work less.

Amy

Not that walk away. Yeah, I think that because again, that's a choice we feel like we can't walk away, but we can. There's there's lots of other options and things that's available because some people they're hungry, and that gets them energized and they want that. Do you know what I mean? It's it's like, whereas for other people, it it's just draining, it's it's understanding yourself, isn't it? And it's like what's because it for years I was very ambitious and working an awful lot, and for a long time that was really fueling me. It's it's like I was really energized by it. I was excited, I couldn't get enough in. Whereas now I think I'm just a little bit slower, and that's what I'm choosing to be at the minute, isn't it? Yeah, oh it's so beautiful.

Giada

Uh yeah, yeah, I was the same. I was energized by that kind of work for several years. So when I was younger, then at some point I was tired, physically tired, mentally tired, and it was not resonated with my soul anymore. So it doesn't mean that now I work less, uh, yeah, but I can choose some days regardless of the endless list, unless I need to run an event, teachings, worships, or whatever. But apart from that, sometimes I say, you know what? I see the list, it's huge. It's fine, it will not change anything if I approach it tomorrow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because my body requires uh to slow down today and I will I will accept it.

Amy

Yeah, because you've I think you've got to, I mean you've got to be kind with yourself, and then once you feel recharged, you can perform better. Whereas if you force yourself when you're tired, or at least with me any age, shit outcome usually comes out because I'm kind of bothered and it shows him what I'm doing.

Giada

Yeah, yeah, exactly. But I know, I mean, lots of people that are listening sometimes, uh they I mean also still friends that they have that keep saying, yeah, it would be nice to change, but I've got the mortgage, I've got this expense, they need the things to pay, and they don't. They spend their own life uh trapped in a in a job in which they don't they don't align. First of all, because they feel that it's a prison and they can't escape the prison. Second of all, because they don't know what to do.

Amy

Yeah, I mean it it's a big thing, but it's I d I I don't know. Again, I just so again with being busy and things like that at one point. It's for what is like do you want the stuff? Is the stuff that important to you? It's like so what is it you you chasing the finances for to have? And it's like, have you getting yourself in a situation where the stuff that you want is actually you become a slave to it? So it's like some people have always got to have the the biggest, latest car, the latest phone, or all of these different things. It's like you've got to ask yourself, is all of that really necessary? Like for me, I'll always come back to is that actually gonna make us happier? The stats sorry, the stats not the stuff.

Giada

The the uh yeah, the the question that one of my teachers at Rama used to say, Do I really need it or do I want it? When ask yourself before buying something.

Amy

It is, it's absolutely true, isn't it? And it's it's the same with like big, huge houses and different things like that. Some people work themselves to death to get these big, beautiful houses when there's only two people bouncing around in it. And it's a it's again, it's a d do you really need that, or do you just want it? And what do you want it for? Because do you truly believe that's going to make you happier, or is it just about how you think you look?

Giada

Yeah, exactly. Also, because then you need to take care of the big houses. Yeah, and then of course you can have someone coming and helping, but big houses uh are uh it's uh it's more to clean more dust, uh, more uh more things that you accumulate uh in general. Yeah, it is, it is, yeah.

Amy

Yeah, so I think with me, I found that it's simple is better.

Giada

I know it's very Zen life. Yeah, yeah. Beautiful. Thank you so much.

Where to find Amy

Giada

And where can people find you if they want to connect with you?

Amy

Um it's it's probably good. Um it's socials, so either on Facebook or Instagram, and it would be good vibrations northeast UK. Yeah. Beautiful. And then hopefully we'll see some people there.

Giada

Yes, absolutely. And I really, really hope uh that there will be familiar faces, I mean new faces for me when uh coming to your event. I can't wait. It will really be exciting also to go around and see what else is there. Uh uh, so really, really feel uh uh the privilege to be there. Yeah, it'll be lovely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. So thank you so much, uh Amy, and um I will put all your details uh uh below. And uh I'll see I'll see you in person uh very soon.

Amy

Yes, thank you very much for your time. Lovely chatting with you. Thank you, thank you.