Celebrity Wine Challenge | David Gibson & Lynn Finkbiner | Barrels and Roots

I sat down with Lynn Finkbiner and David Gibson and we ended up going down one of the most unexpected rabbit holes I’ve had on the show, matching celebrities to wines and breaking down why it actually makes sense. 

From Pedro Pascal as a spicy Chilean red to Beyoncé as a top-tier vintage champagne, the conversation turned into this mix of wine expertise, pop culture, and pure chaos in the best way. What stood out to me is how much personality and storytelling exist in both people and wine, and how the way we describe one can surprisingly reflect the other. Lynn and David brought a ton of knowledge but also made it fun, which made this episode feel less like a lesson and more like a game you don’t want to stop playing.

If you had to pick one, what wine do you think best represents your personality?

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Welcome everybody back to Barrels and Roots. We have a very wild, wonky, and weird episode for you today, but I have two awesome people who can make it more more more awesome because I don't know what I'm talking about, and that's kind of what we've established here. Uh, can you introduce yourselves? Uh, David and Lynn.

SPEAKER_03 0:18

It's sure.

SPEAKER_01 0:19

Lynn, ladies first. Hi. Floor is yours.

SPEAKER_03 0:22

Uh Lynn Finkweiner. I'm a certified Somalier through the court of Master Somaliers. I just got a brand new job. I'm gonna be moving to Palm Beach next month, and I'm really excited about that. I'm going to be joining the Somalier team at the Breakers Resort. So, yeah, that's what I have going on right now. How about you, David?

SPEAKER_02 0:42

You know, I'm uh a man of many talents. Um I've I've been on this podcast a couple times with with Sean. I absolutely love it. Um, I am a W set advanced. I have been for probably about 15 years. Uh, not to date myself, but I think the gray in my beard kind of does that for me. Um, I've launched a handful of wineries up here in Napa Valley, coming to you live and direct. Um, and you know, but before this, I I tell people I'm a recovering restaurateur. So I used to like launch and scale restaurants. Um, the best I ever did. I had the Wine Spectator Award of Excellence for like eight years running and two James Beard nominations for putting together wine lists. And um, you know, it's uh doesn't suck. It's it's a good time.

SPEAKER_03 1:28

That's amazing.

SPEAKER_01 1:29

That's awesome. Well, it's fun.

SPEAKER_02 1:33

It is fun.

SPEAKER_01 1:34

But here's the format for today. I will pull a uh a name out of a hat of a celebrity that we all know or hardly know, and then we will have to see what wine that person might be. Um, our first person up uh is someone who is well known by everyone or not. Um, and I I want to pull this this celebrity and drop it for you guys like it's hot, because this person's name is everywhere right now. And every movie that you might turn on, this gentleman has been getting cast, and he is all over the place. His name is Pedro Pascal. Who or what wine might Pedro Pascal be? Um, who would like to go first?

SPEAKER_04 2:22

Uh well, I have a good one for this one. Oh man.

SPEAKER_02 2:25

Uh Lynn, I gotta go ladies first. That that's a that's a tough one for me.

SPEAKER_03 2:30

Yeah, I thought this one is actually one of the easier ones. Um so Pedro Pascal is Chilean. Um, and also just personally, I find him very hot. So I I said he's a uh a nice, you know, high alcohol, um spicy red from Chile. So I gave him like a Chilean Cabernet.

SPEAKER_00 2:54

Mmm, Chilean Cabernet. That's mixed.

SPEAKER_03 2:57

Yeah, yeah, because like the the pure, yeah, the pirazines in like a cabernet from Chile like kind of comes through as more of like a jalapeno. So that's why I kind of gave him like that hot, spicy like Chilean cabernet. So that's uh yeah, I thought Pedro Pascal was a good one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:14

I like it. I like that. Chilean cabernet cabernet too, like a little softer too, like not your not your big like Napa, you know, over the top, overripe style, like uh a little sexier and a little that that that that spiciness. I like that.

SPEAKER_05 3:29

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 3:31

What about you, David? What do you think? That's that's fun. God, man. Um, you know, the fact that he's Chilean, um, I don't, you know, I'm so bad with celebrities, but I'd have to I'd have to put him as car as Carmeniere, you know. Like I I think uh, you know, like um yeah it's just it's something so classically Chilean, you know, and and really just fits. But I find that Carminiere is like a little sexier, you know, it can be like like like Pinoir adjacent. And I'm one of those guys, as I've said in other podcasts, where I sell Napa Cab to afford my burgundy habit. So if I can go for something that has like a little more elegance, a little more finesse, I could, I could see that. I could see that kind of fitting in a little more. Um, you know, originally a Bordeaux grape, but kind of relocated, you know, just kind of kind of fun and playful.

SPEAKER_03 4:28

No, I love that.

SPEAKER_04 4:28

That's a yeah, that's good call.

SPEAKER_02 4:31

I like Chilean Capp too, you know. Like, hey, you know, that I think that's that's that's pretty awesome. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:37

It's it it seems to me like one of the things that I think is is interesting about Pedro Pascal is like he's got this, like, there's also this ambiguity. And so I don't know if that paid into it because, like, you know, they got all the pictures recently of him and his friend, and I was just like, okay, I was wondering if it was gonna play into that. But you know, it's interesting that he uh he's everywhere. So I don't know. That was something that I was thinking of. Uh, what wine is everywhere right now and in your face and kind of a little popular. But let's keep going because I think that there are plenty of other people that can confuse the hell out of us, or I mean, at least make us feel motivated to play with this. Now, this next person I'm going in in a dangerous direction with the next one. Um, this next one. Did you're trouble, man? Your trouble. I don't know if I'd say it's aging well or if it ages well. But this next one is something that has been uh around for a long time. Person has been around for a long time. Uh, but it has a certain special it it's I would say he it's aging pretty well. However, it does tend to pair pair with things that are younger and fresher. Uh Leonardo DiCaprio. Oh God.

SPEAKER_03 5:55

I love that. Yes, he does. He pairs very well with young and fresh. Great.

SPEAKER_01 6:00

Young and fresh, under 25 only, I guess, right?

SPEAKER_03 6:04

Yes. So for Leo.

SPEAKER_02 6:07

I'm not gonna touch that with a 10-foot hole. I mean, but yeah, you guys are trouble.

SPEAKER_03 6:14

That's fine.

SPEAKER_00 6:15

Right. Um we too.

SPEAKER_03 6:17

So with this one, I actually went um like kind of specific. So like from what I know about like Leo is he not uh no, apart from his um love for the younger ladies, is he is also um really really big into um environmentalism. So the Champagne Telmont is also known for its um its uh environmental what's the word I'm trying to say? It's um sustainability. Thank you. Yes, environment best environmental practices. So um that one I specifically actually chose the 2014 Blanc de Noir. Uh it's described as subtle and seductive, which I think is very Leo and also versatile. And uh, you know, it's best of the best, and it's a champagne. Leonardo DiCaprio is just a you know an incredible actor. And yeah, so I thought I thought that was a really great pick for him. What do you think, David?

SPEAKER_02 7:28

Oh man, I I I really like that one. Um I would I would have to call him like I was gonna go right to Champagne because like young and playful, you know, I was gonna call him like um like a younger vintage Blanc de Blanc, um, especially because his whole like doesn't date anyone over 25 type of thing going on. Um, you know, maybe maybe he's more of like like a non-vintage champagne, so it seems like he stays fresh forever. He doesn't have a vintage on him. Um but but yeah, I think I think I think Blanc de Blanc because it's a little more, a little more crispy. Um, you know, doesn't doesn't have the richness of a blanc de noir, but I Lynn, God, I love the call. Like that's that's that's pretty awesome.

SPEAKER_04 8:10

Yeah, you know, that's that's kind of a fun one. Yeah, he's great.

SPEAKER_01 8:14

This next one, this next one is interesting because um this is one of my favorites. Uh of all of these people on this list, I hands down love this next person. And for many different reasons, she is epic, she is timeless, and she's got the energy, she's small, but she's got the spirit of like a grizzly bear. And uh she's just forever timeless, and she does really cool activism. Her hometown of Pigeon Forge, Tennessee was incredibly poor, and so she put in all of these cool things, uh, including an amusement park to bring up the community. But she is sexy, beautiful, and has that southern, southern charm that there is hard to match. Dolly Parton is our next one up. Who would be Dolly Parton be?

SPEAKER_03 9:07

Okay. Perfect. So um Dolly Parton, all American woman, right?

SPEAKER_05 9:13

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 9:14

And Southern, as you said. So I wanted to pick a a wine that um that expresses itself very well in in the States and also pairs well with some nice Southern barbecue. So I went Zinfandel for Dolly Park.

SPEAKER_01 9:27

Oh, I didn't think about a Zinfandel for Dolly, but that's I I like it in a weird way.

SPEAKER_03 9:33

Yeah, because that's just like where I went. It was just like the, you know, like I wanted something like American and just like thinking of like something like Tennessee, you know, that's where she's from. So yeah, I thought I thought Zinfandel, and like you know, she is, she's just like kind of like this this force and yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:48

I love it. We can go to that. I love that. Like, like and Zinfandel with like Southern barbecue, you know, like oh dude. That's that's that's a pretty epic one. She's a little spicy, you know, and pairs well with long smoked meats. Uh, you know, they're very, very southern. You know, I'm gonna throw one thing out there.

SPEAKER_01 10:06

I'm gonna throw one thing out there. If you go the the best thing at Dolly Parton's amusement park, hands down, uh, is there oh dude, I just I had the name. Um, what is that type of uh oh dude, it they got this big vat uh uh of oil and they put like the donut sauce on top and they the the oh yeah what is that called?

SPEAKER_04 10:27

Um funnel cakes?

SPEAKER_01 10:29

Funnel cakes, yes. The funnel cakes at Dolly at Dollywood are so good. Funnel cakes at Dollywood are so good, man. So that's the best thing at Dollywood. I love it. Giant sugary. I'm most like sugar rush afterwards. I'm gonna get the diabetes. All right. Who do you think it did?

SPEAKER_02 10:50

What do you think of David? I've got like two different directions. You know, when you first said Dolly Parton, and I think that like people in the comments might just absolutely eviscerate me for this one. But I, you know, think Dolly Parton's like big, voluptuous. I was gonna say like like Rombauer Chardonnay. Just like big buttery, over the top, you know, like just but but it doesn't have much to do with the South. That the other direction I would go is like not not to go like the champagne route again. But like I think that like if she was like a like a grand crew like rosé champagne, it's like her like expensive to look this cheap kind of like persona, you know, like that that that could kind of fit too, but I don't know. So I'm split between like like over the top, over oaked, over buttery Chardonnay, because it kind of fits her demographic too. Um but like the the like like flirty pink champagne that you know I I don't know. I I I'm I'm somewhere somewhere in the middle of those two. I think I think either of them could fit, and there's a good argument for both of them. Um for sure. But uh I have no idea.

SPEAKER_01 12:07

Just being wild with it. You know, you know, Dolly Parton's awesome, and I'm gonna probably have a glass of each of them and toast to Dolly and her and her longevity, man. I hope she keeps going because Dolly Parton's probably one of the coolest people. God, don't take Dolly from us. That's all I'm saying right now. We can please, especially right now. We need more Dolly Parton in the world. All right, I'm gonna throw you guys uh uh a wrench, throw you guys something difficult out of left field. Uh, this one is an interesting one, and very much in the public persona uh in the public uh zeitgeist right now. Everyone's talked about this person because of the recent Super Bowl appearance. We are pulling out Bad Bunny, no stops. Where does Bad Bunny fit into our overall things? Lynn, what do you think of for Bad Bunny?

SPEAKER_03 12:58

Hi, I don't know. I honestly struggled a little with Bad Bunny, but um so just off the cuff here, like Bad Bunny is I mean, he is also everywhere right now, right? And that Super Bowl performance was awesome. So, and it was all about like bringing bringing people together from from different parts of the world. So I don't know, like what's like a big, like a nice, cool crowd pleaser, but also um, you know, something something that's good for like for warm days. So let's say like uh oh goodness, I'm really struggling. Um I'm drinking I'm drinking like a nice Torontes right now. So let's uh let's call him Torontes.

SPEAKER_05 13:46

There you go. That works.

SPEAKER_04 13:48

I think that fits. It's a nice, yeah, this is a nice crowd pleaser. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:54

That's all I could I could totally see that, you know. You know, it goes well with things that are really spicy, you know. It doesn't really matter. Yeah, yeah, that's cool. You know, I was thinking, you know, I'm I'm in, I'm in Napa and we've got like like super, super hipster Oakland. Um I would almost call Bad Bunny like like a skin contact, like hipster orange wine. And you gotta hear me out for a minute. Like, like, and let's think like like Grenache Blanc with skin contact, like something that's like funky, brassy, like just unfiltered, absolute rule breaker, something that's just like maybe a little cloudy, maybe a little sediment to it, like just not your normal, like run-of-the-mill wine. And so, like, like Grenache Blanc, but skin contact, like brassy orange, you know, gotta throw that out there for all the hipster homies, you know, and and and try to try to grab that crowd. I think, I think, I think that one could work because like rule breaker, unfiltered, kind of, kind of funky and strange. And if you love it, you love it. And if you don't like it, or maybe you just don't even know about it, you know, maybe I think that kind of fits Bad Bunny. I love Bad Bunny, don't get me wrong, you know. Um, but but just just to like pull one like right out of left field, you know, I think that that could that could work. I love it.

SPEAKER_03 15:19

Well, one of the things too, I think that's spot on.

SPEAKER_02 15:22

Right? And one of the things with Bad Bunny too is like maybe like carbonic a little bit or something. Oh like don't get weird with it.

SPEAKER_01 15:29

Yeah. Next one up, I don't I can't even know what was the thing that he used to do in his movies, uh or something. I don't know, he would make that weird noise, and like um, he's been everything. He was Scarface, he has been in The Godfather, he has been everywhere, he's a method actor, so he becomes anything. He's Italian American, he played probably one of the greatest mom bosses that ever lived, Al Frickin' Pacino.

SPEAKER_03 16:03

So um I actually like kind of clumped Al Pacino and um Robert De Niro together.

SPEAKER_05 16:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:11

Yeah. Just because like they are there's like they they kind of have that similar um you know, mop boss. So I kinda picked them both as Amarone or Vin Santo. Just something that is um, you know, the the Pasito that, yeah, the Pasamento method and um also just very, very ageable, you know, like both of those guys that um, you know, we've been watching them forever and hopefully we they we still have more to come from them.

SPEAKER_02 16:41

What do you think, David? I like that. Yeah. You know, I was gonna go into the Italian camp too. I was gonna go more like um like along the lines of like vintage Barolo, but Barolo that's not like like like too old, maybe like Barolo that's got like 10 or 15 years of age on it. Because, you know, we got that like really classic Italian soil to it, you know, but it's like like the Italian heritage, the Italian soil, and like that's what I go to. Like I love like some good Barolo. Um, but like the tannic intensity of it, I think, like kind of fits that like Corleone kind of phase where it's just it's just a little bit aggressive. Sometimes if it's too youthful, it's like really aggressive. Um, but then as it gets a little older, it starts to just kind of soften up a little bit. But you can tell that like when you meet an older Barolo that when it was young, this thing was a beast, you know, but it's starting to just kind of not be as aggressive as it was in its youth, you know. Um I'd call it Barbaresco, but to me, like Barbaresco is like a gorilla in a pink tutu. And I I I if if I call if I call Al Pacino a gorilla in a pink tutu, there's gonna be someone knocking on my door. So I kind of have to go like more a classic Barolo and give them that compliment, I think. Um but uh but yeah, that's a that's a tough one, you know. I was originally in a go more like Antonori family, you know, big like almost feeling like mafia boss kind of thing. Um but I think I think Barolo, Barolo's the way to go, you know? It's gonna it's gonna pull your teeth out of your gums, whether you did something right or you did something wrong, you know? Like it's just it's just a beast, you know.

SPEAKER_01 18:30

Well, well, that's a good segue right there with the word beast. We are moving into Mr. Beast right now. If Mr. Beast was a wine, what wine would Mr. Beast be? Lynn, you're up first.

SPEAKER_03 18:48

So this is another one that I kind of went like specific with it. Um so I said Mr. Beast was Screaming Eagle. Uh, just because Screaming Eagle is like when you say when you think of that, you think like big money, right? And like that's what you think of with Mr. Beast. Um another thing that they have in common is they're both very um philanthropic. So there's uh, you know, Screaming Eagle has the their foundation, and um, then there's also the beast philanthropy. So I thought that was a really good one for him.

SPEAKER_02 19:18

I like that. I like that a lot. I think that's cool. Um, well, you know, I have a six and a half-year-old son. He loves some Mr. Beast, and so I know a lot about Jimmy. Um, the one thing that a lot of people don't recognize is that Jimmy is completely sober, you know, does not drink at all. And and so I yeah, I would have to give him God, I hate doing this, but like one of those supermodern, like no-proof alcohols, one of those like, you know, like like uh jam sellers like butter zero or something, because the guy doesn't drink. But but then I I agree with Lynn, like his personality, his personality feels like like Screaming Eagle or like like Harlan Estate, because it's just like money everywhere for for no real good reason. It's it's why are you so expensive, bro? Why are you so expensive? No one knows why you're so expensive, but there's just money everywhere.

SPEAKER_04 20:20

Everywhere, it's everywhere on the time.

SPEAKER_02 20:22

So so I I totally agree with Lynn on that one, but I do like to, you know, throw that head nod to like you know the whole sober curious generation. And you know, I I think that adds some relativity here. You know, if Mr. Beast is sober, he's gonna be drinking non-alcoholic wine. So maybe, you know, you are what you eat. I'm burrito shaped. It tracks. Um so uh like so uh if you're a non-alcoholic guy, like you're gonna probably be like a non-alcoholic wine. I don't know. Uh for sure. Too cheeky? I don't know, but I I I think I think that one works, you know?

SPEAKER_01 21:05

I think that's probably one of the best lines I've ever had on any podcast is you are what you eat, and I'm burrito-shaped. That was cheating right there.

SPEAKER_02 21:13

Oh man. Uh well. Oh man, you know me, Sean. Uh you never know what's gonna come out of my mouth. You I'm I'm really glad you have a good editing team. Yeah, the editing team's real good.

SPEAKER_01 21:23

The editing team gonna hate me on this one. Yeah, with me popping in and out, the editing team is gonna be like, I he's gonna turn to me in the middle of editing and be like, Mr. Sean, but I just hate you right now. I'm like, I love you too, man. All right. I wanna I wanna throw something a wrench your way. Uh I've been doing that the whole time. But this person is um well known, has transformed the way she looks very dramatically uh over the past couple years, but started out and has always been a underneath the cosmetic change, underneath has always been. A powerhouse diva of the of the rarest type. And we are speaking about. Hello, can you hear me? Adele.

SPEAKER_04 22:12

Excellent. Oh, my God. Yeah, I don't even know where we were going with that one.

SPEAKER_05 22:19

I was waiting for it.

SPEAKER_03 22:22

Um, I think Adele is uh Mersot. You know, Merce Merceau for me is um it's a very rich and um, you know, like it's it comes through like the like those rich, buttery notes. And Adele's voice, I feel, is just like butter. So I and you know, with all of the the elegance and um and I I think Murceau's also it falls under that that powerhouse kind of category. So yeah, I'm gonna go Murceau for Adele.

SPEAKER_02 22:54

Oh man.

SPEAKER_03 22:55

Nice big wrist.

SPEAKER_02 22:58

I like that. I like that. I already use Chardonnay for um for Dolly because it was voluptuous. So I need to uh I need to find something else. Um my wife loves Adele. So I know that Adele loves like a white wine spritzer, but to me, like she's not like she's not a white wine spritzer. I would I would look at her more as like um like Chateau Neuf de Pop, like Bookastel or something like that, because there's this like big richness to her, you know, it can be like a little smoky and velvety, and you know, um, I think and a Rhone blend like that, you know, when you're when you're talking about being able to use so many different varietals, like you can really like paint this picture of Adele um with like like Chatonouf de Pop, you know, like I I think that that it's it's kind of really really pretty. It's a prestigious red. Um, you know, it and to me, like Chatenouf is like one of my favorite things to drink. It's like my hedonistic feasting wine, you know. And when I look at Adele, I think that like if we were gonna hang out, we would have a big hedonistic feast, you know, and so I think that like I think that I think that tracks a little bit like maybe like Syrah co-fermented with Vignet or something, if I had to like get real specific, but you know, I think I think Chatenou if it's what was that?

SPEAKER_03 24:29

Coat roti?

SPEAKER_02 24:30

Coat roti, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:32

Yeah, isn't that like a guest round vignette?

SPEAKER_02 24:35

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. No, I love that. She's one of the lalas, uh, you know, to play with my geeky psalm friends out there, you know. Which la la is she? Let's see it. Which which law do you think she might be if she's coat roti? Um, Sean's looking at us both like we're absolutely crazy, Len. I love this.

SPEAKER_01 24:53

No, it's okay. It's okay. I just popped out and I was just like, I'm trying to get, you know, the internet's been awful here, and I'm trying to figure out where I'm at in the conversation, but I'm happy to listen and to go, yes, this is over my pay grade, but I'm having fun right now.

SPEAKER_02 25:08

Cry your heart out, tannins to it, maybe. Um, oh.

SPEAKER_05 25:12

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 25:14

There we go.

SPEAKER_05 25:16

I love that. Yeah, it does. Uh yeah, she's great.

SPEAKER_01 25:19

I'm gonna get you guys into a place that you guys are gonna hate me right now. But if we're talking big and bold, it probably about as big and bold as you can get on this whole list. Uh, this one is in your face, though the fans have loved this person for a long time, and they've got a great rapport with the people. He'll always, after he's finished filming for a day, he'll open up his truck, roll down the windows, and say, What's up, everyone? You know, Dwayne the Rock Johnson started in the WWE, has transformed into an absolute mega movie star. Um, but he also does some kids, a lot of kids content too. I don't know, we're not gonna whine for kids, but you know, he's very versatile. Who do you think Dwayne The Rock Johnson would be?

SPEAKER_02 26:08

Oh man.

SPEAKER_03 26:09

Hmm.

SPEAKER_02 26:10

I gotta think about that one for a minute.

SPEAKER_03 26:13

Okay. Um Yeah, I need a minute on that one.

SPEAKER_02 26:16

Lynn, you want you want me to tackle that one first?

SPEAKER_03 26:18

Uh yeah, you go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 26:20

You know, I I've joked with Sean on previous podcasts where, you know, my favorite wine is tequila. Uh Dwayne, Dwayne might be tequila. Um, but if he wasn't tequila, because it's not wine, um, I think like I haven't used Cabernet yet. Like Dwayne Johnson would be like like a like a double magnum, like a three-liter of like just like Deldado Cabernet Sauvignon, you know, just just overextracted, big muscular, you know, laden with wood, just over the top kind of style to him, but at the same time, like still kind of soft and plush and might be a little sweet. Like I'm not trying to throw stones at Dave Deldado, but his wines have a little residual sugar. Um, you know, so like just like big shouldered Napa Cab, but like it's gotta be like, you know, in a in a double magnum or like a methuselah or a gerobong or something, like to to to be the rock. Like it's just that's how you gotta be, man. You know? And then he's gonna swing the bottle at people when it's empty. He will. He most definitely will. Just saying.

SPEAKER_03 27:36

Um, yeah, no, I I I love all that. Yeah, that's uh that sounds great. Um, or even just like, you know, with his name, the rock, just anything with but comes from like a nice rocky soil, right? So we're thinking like gravel, uh maybe something, you know, left bank of Bordeaux. Um I have uh so how about let's uh let's give him Son Estef. I think Santa Steph's good for him. From my from my perspective perspective. Yeah, because it's like it's big and bold. I think that's something that um you know if people are are getting into Bordeaux, that's uh that's a good one to to meet for sure.

SPEAKER_02 28:14

I like it. I think that if Dwayne the Rock Johnson heard this and heard that we compared him to a Frenchman, he might be a little pissed off. I'm just saying. I'm just saying, but but I like it. I like the Santa Steph call. I think that that's I think that's cool. I think that's fun. Like really super crunchy, rocky soils. He's the he's the rock, man.

SPEAKER_04 28:42

Yeah, yeah. Just trying to to you know bring in the the name a little bit that way.

SPEAKER_01 28:48

Oh, that's awesome. Well, uh, we're gonna slide into uh another person's uh category, but yeah, this person, you need to tone it down a little bit. We're we're too happy right now. This person is a good thing. Hey man, what's wrong with being happy? And uh, well, this music doesn't really resonate with that. Uh pretty much every music video is gonna have a little bit of sadness and a little bit more of an emo character because um she's a bad guy. Uh Billie Eilish. I don't know. I I was losing myself on that one. That was a horrible introduction. Billie Eilish, where does Billie Eilish fit in all of this? Because you know, she's got such the songs, like everything is it's amazing music. Like you can listen to it. You're like, dude, the beat on this is savage. It's you you you can't stop listening to it, but yet, you know, it's not that let's feel good and happy music. I mean, Billy's got a like that that teen angst that has grown into adulthood, you know, vibe going on. So where are you sitting with Billie Eilish? Man.

SPEAKER_03 29:51

Um, so Billy, I'm thinking she is here. Let me let me so um her voice is like more of like a soft and elegant voice. Like, yes, her her music is um also that just very versatile. And I gave her pomerol. Because it's something that you can enjoy now, but I also think that her career is going to last decades. So it's something like, you know, you can, like I said, you can enjoy now, but it's also going to be great if you uh, you know, get to it in 15, 20 years. Because I think she's gonna be around for a while. I love Billie Eilish.

SPEAKER_00 30:30

I love Billie Eilish too.

SPEAKER_02 30:31

All right, David, where are you going? Oh man, well, I love what Lynn said, like this whole like be around forever thing. Um, I was originally called Billie Eilish uh like pet not as I look at like her and her crowd of people, you know, something that's like like a little fun and funky, but like can be a little strange. Maybe even like if you're doing like like a like where am I going with skin ferment stuff? I'm it's my second skin ferment thing, but like like some soft skin ferment like uh Sauvignon Blanc PetNat, like something just like fun and funky, and like she's a little weird, but you gotta love her because she's so weird, you know? But but at the same time, pet not it has no shelf life. It's kind of a drink me now type of thing. So I guess I I like what Lynn was saying more than than my suggestion, but um I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 31:25

I still pet nut fits so too, like especially like her style and everything.

SPEAKER_02 31:30

Yeah, yeah, just kind of like a little more funky and strange, you know, like but in a great way, you know, like there's some awesome pet nuts out there, but like, you know, I don't know. I just I I for that for for some reason, as you were as you were dialing it out, Sean, that one kind of resonated with me.

SPEAKER_01 31:47

And so you know I I got one for you guys now that has like this is gonna be an interesting one, and I it's gonna have a hell of a setup. So this one, when they were younger, was fresh, powerful, manly, about as manly as you could get. Old West vibe, but has aged into this increasing level of of tough bitterness. We are talking about the one, the only, the Americana of Clint Eastwood. Oh Jesus.

SPEAKER_03 32:24

So this one I thought was like pretty easy, actually. Um I I gave him uh Stag's Leap Wine Cellars, Cabernet Sauvignon. Because again, just like another all-American, world-known, um, you know, just big and rustic, you know, and manly. Like that's what I feel like the, you know, when working in a dining room, like when when you have this group of men, that's what they want. They want like this big, bold American Cabernet and uh Stag's Leap Wine Cellars is like one of those like impressive labels. And I yeah, I think Clinton used to was stag's leap wine cellars, cabernet stuff.

SPEAKER_02 33:07

And award-winning, too. Epic. Yeah, judgment of Paris, baby. Let's go. Yeah, let's go. Um, I love that. And so specific. Stag's leap. Wow, nice, great, great call. You know, I was I was sitting here pondering as you as you threw it out there, Sean. And um, I have to say, like, like uh, I know Lynn had used Zin before, but I think Clint Eastwood is like Napa Valley, high elevation, old vine Zinfandel. And especially if you could find something made by like like a like a pre-prohibition like ghost winery, you know, but like it's gonna be boozy and high octane and you know, like have a little more of that like leather face kind of mouthfeel to it, and just just over the top, you know. Like I just think like the old vine longevity with something like Clint Eastwood and the way that he has been able to like continue to evolve, you know, he is like the old guard. And and then like hear me out here. You think of like a spaghetti western. What am I gonna have with spaghetti? Probably some old vines in. So uh, you know, gotta gotta gotta play with that one a little bit. I I I think I think that I think the old vine. Oh man, I know it was kind of a stretch. And I'm trying to be cheeky, but like not be too cheeky. Um you know, I I think that like I think that old vines in like is the way, man. I uh that that that's my opinion, you know, because that's like classic California, even though Zinfindel is Primativo is Kajelznick Kastelansky, but but we won't even go there. It's it's classic, classic California like OG plantings, which reminds me of you know Clint Eastwood, the old west. So I love it.

SPEAKER_01 34:58

Well, I got one that's gonna confirm the hell out of you guys. You guys are gonna be like, what? Sean, are you serious? Doja cat. Oh, Jesus. Where is Doja Cat gonna fit into our spectrum of wine? Sexy, uh, in your face, super in your face, sexy, you know. Um it is. She's got style, beautiful, but she doesn't let you forget it. So where are you fit in Doja? Oh man.

SPEAKER_05 35:32

Lynn, do you want to tackle this one first?

SPEAKER_03 35:34

Or this style. Um, yeah, I'll I'll you go ahead and take this one, David. Jesus. Give me a minute.

SPEAKER_02 35:43

I've got I've got two different ways to go. Um I would either I would either call her like um like sweet Moscato, or or you know, doja cat like shit, like she's just like like pounding something sweet and like over the top, and even though she's like a little kind of grimy, I would also go to like um like Australian sparkling chiraz, you know, and and and and hear me out, like that, like that carbonic maceration kind of energy to it, um, like just funky, unfiltered, little bit strange, not what people were expecting, but but they still like really secretively like really kind of like it type of thing. You know, I think I think that could, you know, like like that sweet but sharp kind of like dichotomy, you know, and that's like once again, I'm taking this way off the rails with that call, but um but you gotta get weird with it sometimes, right? And it and and tie it all together.

SPEAKER_03 36:53

Definitely, yeah. Well, I think I read that she um her father is maybe from South Africa. So um, like maybe even a um a South African sparkling could work for her too. So what is that?

SPEAKER_02 37:14

Are you talking about like a sparkling tire fire?

SPEAKER_04 37:17

That's what I'm trying to say. What's that?

SPEAKER_02 37:20

The the classic, like um, are you talking about the our our our wonderful South African grape varietal that smells like a tire fire? No.

SPEAKER_05 37:28

Oh a pinotage? Since what are we talking about?

SPEAKER_02 37:34

Pinotage. Yeah, yeah, sparkling pinotage. That's where I thought you were going. I was trying to lead you a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 37:39

Oh well yeah, peanut sparkling pinotage could work for sure, or Cap Classic, you know, but yeah, I think, yeah, that's good Pinotage. I think, yeah, soja Cat's Pinotage. Yeah, I think she's a great pinotage.

SPEAKER_01 37:54

All right. This one is uh our next one up is something that um most people love, but you know, uh some people don't, and yet you cannot deny her. She is in your face, she is about as big as they come, and she is an icon in and of herself. We are talking about Beyonce. Oh Jesus.

SPEAKER_02 38:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 38:20

Perfect.

SPEAKER_02 38:21

We gotta be we gotta be very polite here, otherwise, Jay-Z is gonna come and like kill everybody. Um but fight us all.

SPEAKER_03 38:31

Uh so I think um Beyonce is is a is a really nice, like sparkling um vintage rose from just a like a top not top-notch producer, so like Krug, Runar, Don Perrion, even. Um yeah, I mean, she's she's just that's that's how I see her, as just a she's Beyoncé, a great vintage sparkling rose, and also she is loved as much as Sparkling Rose is by the LGBT community. I think that's just a great spot for her.

SPEAKER_05 39:10

I like that. I like that.

SPEAKER_01 39:12

What do you guys think? Oh, right. I really that's what I was thinking that spark has to be sparkling. There, I mean, that was something that I was thinking for for Beyonce because she she pops every time she's on the show, she pops she sings, she pops, you know?

SPEAKER_02 39:27

Yeah. Well, I love it. I don't know, man. I I might take this a different direction, and you gotta hear me out a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 39:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 39:34

What if, you know, she has been seen drinking Chateau Petrouse left and right, you know? Okay. So what if she's like, let's pick a like a really dope vintage, like 1945 Chateau Petrouse, you know, or maybe, maybe, maybe we call her like Cheval Blanc, but you know, it's like that blue chip kind of prestige, you know, like like the best of the best, something that's absolutely iconic that like really fits. I I I love the whole sparkling thing, you know. I I totally agree with it, but I, you know, I gotta throw something else out there. Um, you know, it's like it's like it's like that perfectionist kind of blend, you know, something that that has aged over time, you know. Like, come on, when did we start listening to Beyonce? When we were all in like eighth grade or something, you know, so like over time, like she hasn't aged. Like it reminds me of like like some of these these famous chateaus. And so to find like a perfectionist vintage, something like that, not to call her old, but um, like the the the 1945 like chateau produced timeless, classic, incredible, you know? And so so Lynn, you had you had pulled you had pulled some Bordeaux out. I had to like I had to like reel in some of that Bordeaux to play with it. I liked that, but I I think that because she has been seen drinking patruse pretty regularly, I had to run with it because I'm a burrito, you know, so just to tie it all back in. Um, you know.

SPEAKER_03 41:15

For sure. No, I think I think Chateau Petrouse is excellent. That's an excellent choice.

SPEAKER_02 41:20

Random, but but I think, I think, I think it can work.

SPEAKER_01 41:23

I I we got a couple more here, and one of my favorites is because I absolutely love his character. And the most recent movie of this character was a goddamn masterpiece, especially when he pulled the skeleton of Hugh Jackman out of the ground and used it to beat the crap out of a bunch of time soldiers. But we are talking about the one and only Deadpool, aka Ryan Reynolds. Uh, what wine would Ryan Reynolds be? I'd love to hear your perspective.

SPEAKER_03 41:53

Um, Ryan Reynolds is Canadian.

SPEAKER_01 41:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 41:58

I know that. Um, and also with uh along with Deadpool, he is um he's been in some really great comedies and romantic comedies. So he is a comedic actor, but still has a very wide range of what he can do with comedy. So like from you know romance to to the the action films. Um so I I say I think he is like a nice Canadian Riesling. Um play the Canadian angle there too, as well. Yeah, so because it can be like a little sweeter, like a nice sweet rom-com, but you can also get like a nice, drier, like bolder version of it that you know would be a little bit more on par with his um uh you know action adventure movies. So yeah. It's Canadian Riesley.

SPEAKER_02 42:51

I like that. I like that. It's a reach, but I really like it. Jeez, man. So I just I love Deadpool, you know, and so that's all I can think about. I can't think of his like comedic career, but as I think of Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool, um I uh I think he's I think he's box wine cabernet sauvignon. And and hear me out. Hear me out. Didn't expect that one, huh? You know, like it's just like this dis he's like this disruption, you know, like you'd expect him to be like two to three hundred dollar bottle of Cabernet, but instead he's out back like playing slap the bag with his homies, you know, and just like just just chugging like really shitty Cabernet, you know, like but but he's Cabernet because he's Deadpool, you know, like but you know, like I I had to tie this one together a little bit, and I it's so off the cuff and so so weird, but I don't know. I gotta run with that one. And Ryan, I'm really sorry, but yes, yes, you are like you. You know, gallo slap the bag, Cabernet Sauvignon, buddy. And I love you for it.

SPEAKER_04 44:05

Gallo Slap the Bag. Yeah, that's great. No, I I love that.

SPEAKER_01 44:10

It's interesting because Ryan Reynolds is interesting. Uh because I mean we all think Deadpool, we think about the rom com. Um but there's another angle too, uh, because I I I think that, you know, one of the things that people don't know about him is he is a savvy, savvy businessman. Like he was, you know, he he invested in Mint Mobile. Um and he also was he invested in aviation gin, which then he was able to sell and make a huge, huge profit. So I'm thinking something that is not just a drink, but it's also got this luxury experience, and it's like, you know, there's a lot of money that goes into it. So I was thinking either like for me, this is the only one that I had an opinion on, but I was thinking like a high, high-end champagne or some super expensive Napa Cap, just because you know, it it what the raw material that you put in there might not be that expensive, but then what pops out the other side is hugely overpriced. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 45:18

Sure, yeah. No, I love that. That's uh no, and his gin's pretty good too.

SPEAKER_02 45:23

That's originally where I was gonna go. I'm like two to three hundred dollar bottle in the Abbey Cat. And I started thinking about it and his style. Like the other thing I was thinking, like, uh, you guys are gonna laugh at me, but um there's this like weird trend. Yeah, right. And you know, I'm I'm good at like weird, wandem, random, wacky shit. Um what if he was like like if you took like instead of a Michelada, if he was like Lambrusco with a couple dashes of Tabasco sauce in it. Just a little bubbly, but like really spicy, but kind of sweet, but just really kind of strange, you know. Like, I don't know. I I've seen people drink those things and it it doesn't suck. I had a buddy of mine that's like, hey dude, it's like a lambrusco Michelada. I'm like, you're out of your goddamn mind. I'm not putting that in my mouth. And and and I tasted, I'm like, that that that doesn't suck. That's actually pretty cool.

SPEAKER_03 46:17

Um, you know, so you know what it's not it sounds like it would go great with a burrito.

SPEAKER_02 46:22

Just saying. I love you guys, man. Too much fun. Too much fun. Yeah, yes, yes, it we got a couple more. It does go great with a burrito.

SPEAKER_01 46:36

This next person is um, again, also all over the screen. And um, he's got some interesting things because uh is very like manly but not very thin, this new type of masculinity for this new generation, very gin Z, very artistic, but has recently um stepped into a whole new arena by becoming part of the Kardashian clan and wearing matchy outfits with his uh significant other. We are talking about Timothy Chalamet or Chalamet as as uh as it's correctly pronounced, and um and and then uh Adam Sandler, who's got this bromance going on with Timothy Chalamet as well, which is kind of awesome. Yet he balls him and Adam Sandler playing basketball together all the time, is absolute wild angle for Timothy Chalamet. Where would you go? He's also in Dune, dude is everywhere right now, and he's a great actor as well.

SPEAKER_03 47:33

He is. No, I love Timothy Chalamet. I actually just saw um uh Willie Wonka, he did a really good job in that too. That was fun. So his um he has uh French origins. I think his father is French, but he is an all-American boy. He was born here, raised here, works here. Um so I I thought a cool champagne house that also produces in the United States was really good fit for him. So I went mum. So mum Napa specifically is what I picked for for Timothy Chalamet. I like that. But he has to have like some sort of like Frenchiness. Yeah. Yeah. And also that's very versatile, something that every but most people would probably enjoy, you know? Approachable.

SPEAKER_02 48:16

Yeah, if you spell your name Timothy without an H and two E's on it, like you gotta be a little bit, a little bit like out there and like super French. Right? I like that. Yeah. Oh man. Um, God, where would I go with this one? Okay. Let's think. I think that I would make Timothy, I love the French background, Lynn. I think that's that's like super spot on. I would call him like uh a more youthful vintage of like a high altitude Pinot from Burgundy, maybe like Volnay, you know, like thin-skinned, you know, a little sensitive, um, but has that like French American, like kind of dual identity, you know. But I think that like, like, well, and I I joke with people, as Sean's heard, I sell a nap a cab to afford my burgundy habit. So I I don't get me wrong, I love, I love some Volnay, you know, but you know, you're not like you're not like DRC yet, but but you're you're getting there, you know? And I think that that kind of like that that kind of approachability, that that kind of like soft, playful elegance, you know, in a lot of the things that he's done, like maybe could work. But like I said, I'm I'm I'm I'm terrible with actors. So Sean, I don't know why you even had me on here, but um I'm kidding, man.

SPEAKER_05 49:41

Um I think he's doing great.

SPEAKER_02 49:44

I'm just running with it, you know, doing my best. But I I think that that could be something fun that that's a call that I haven't thrown out there yet. I love it.

SPEAKER_05 49:52

No, I love that. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:55

All right. So uh this next one we're going into because we have left one entire region of the world without any love right now. And this is the one like person on this list that I would not leave my wife alone in a room with. Um, because he's so so side story. A couple years ago, I was doing acting, long time ago, I was doing acting in Hollywood, and my agent called me up. She said, Sean, there's this rollout. I might be able to get you an audition. And I was like, fuck yeah. And she's like, it's for Marvel. I was like, oh my God, I don't know if I can even think about auditioning for that. And she's like, she's like, I what do you know about Thor? And I just was like, they do not want me. I am not what they are looking for. I am not this god of a man who just ripples muscles and just when the shirt is torn off, everyone in the room just uh falls. Again, not a person I'd leave my wife alone in a room with. Christopher Hemsworth.

SPEAKER_03 50:57

So I thought that Christopher Hemsworth was pretty easy, I think. Um and also, side note, Sean, I think you I think you would have been a great Thor. I would have loved to see that.

SPEAKER_05 51:06

I appreciate that. Um I like it, man.

SPEAKER_03 51:11

Yeah, no, I mean the um, you know, the the hot Australian man with uh, you know, uh Shiraz definitely has like a little bit of like that meaty quality to it. It's like so I I thought I thought Chris Chris Hemsworth was super easy, just Australian Shiraz. Big bold beefy.

SPEAKER_02 51:30

Damn it. Damn it, Lynn.

SPEAKER_01 51:32

That's exactly where I was gonna go to. Yeah, like I think this is the one that everyone's gonna agree on.

SPEAKER_05 51:39

Yeah, what else can you be?

SPEAKER_02 51:42

Well, yeah, you know, like like Barossa Valley's Shiraz, like double barrel Shiraz, like like massive, high alcohol, unapologetically bold. Like that's like that's like Thor energy right there. You know, like yeah, yeah, you nailed that one, Lynn. That I can't I can't even come up with something else because that was like exactly where my mind went, and I can't get over it. I think that's that's that's gotta be the way. Just like just just over the top, you know, like crazy. That's awesome. Good call.

SPEAKER_01 52:14

I love it. Yep, I love it.

SPEAKER_03 52:15

Unanimous.

SPEAKER_01 52:16

All right. We've got we got three more, and these are you guys are gonna hate me for these. Um so uh the next the next one up, uh, she is all American, and she's about as all American as you can get. She is everywhere. People either love her or hate her. And there's no middle ground. And she has a huge fan following, and the fan following Eastern has their own name of Swifties. And she has uh, you know, been all over the news. Uh and she made her way deeply into the NFL community this year, whether you liked they liked it or not. Taylor Swift. And uh where would you go with Taylor Swift?

SPEAKER_03 53:00

Uh California Chardonnay, for sure. It's uh yeah, just a very yeah, like just a just a super overpopular uh representation of the grape. Um also I I I still believe, I fully believe that there are a lot of people that uh you know they're out in the world just talking about how much they hate California Chardonnay, but I think in the privacy of their own homes, they're drinking it, they love it. Yep, they just don't talk about it. So yeah, I think it's hard for her.

SPEAKER_02 53:33

That tracks, that tracks. I like it. Oh man. Well, not as Swifty, but I do love Taylor Swift, and I do know that she loves Sauvignon Blanc. So, you know, coming back to that, you are what you eat, or maybe you are what you drink, maybe she is like like Grand Cru Sonia uh Grand Cruise Sincere. Um, you know, maybe maybe it's been aged through 10 different eras. Um just being cheeky. Um, but but I love took a minute. Um my God. Oh, the Aeris tour.

SPEAKER_01 54:16

God damn, how did I miss that? It's early in the day for me. Don't do these these word plays. It's too early for you, John. Too early, man. I still didn't get it. What did I miss right now?

SPEAKER_02 54:35

Uh if she wasn't if she wasn't Sancere, if she wasn't Sancre, maybe like she'd be like Mescato de Osti or something, like because she just feels so like young and playful, you know, and always has, but I had to I had to go with Sancere just because of what I know she likes to drink, and I just think it kind of fits. And it made the Eras joke work. So um it did all right.

SPEAKER_00 55:04

I love it. For this next one, this next wine where I'm going to ask you who you think this person is uh I I'm losing the accent.

SPEAKER_01 55:16

All right, this person's one of my favorite actors. Um he's been quite controversial at times for some of the things that he shed during his career. Uh yeah, yeah, if the accent hasn't given it away, it's probably because I can't do this accent so well, but was one of the greatest James Bond that ever was. Uh, a long career. Uh when one of did you know? I'm I'm it's Sean Connery, obviously. When he was uh had a co-star on set, uh and the co-star was dating um was it Mickey Cohen, the famous mob boss, came out and one of his co-stars and Mickey Cohen was threatening the actress on set, and James Bond or Sean Connery went up and punched Mickey Cohen in the face and said, get off chat. And he pulled a gun on him. He's like, What are you gonna do with that? What are you gonna do with that? You know, true story. What wine would Sean Connery be? Timeless, symbolic, you know. What's gonna be?

SPEAKER_03 56:18

Oh, that's um, so initially I was thinking that that Sean Connery was um another like left bank Bordeaux, but I put him in the um the Saint-Julienne. Um, so because uh like very just very, very rustic and um old world elegance expression of that of that area. Yeah, it's the old world elegance, sure. Um but so yeah, I think I'm just gonna stick with that. I I don't know if it's very controversial, uh, but I think it could also handle having a pistol pointed at it.

SPEAKER_01 56:53

Right, right. Probably has have a pistol pointed at it. I mean, we're talking about it.

SPEAKER_02 57:05

Oh man, Lynn, I think I think you're spot on. I think you're in like the correct vein. I would go like like 1960s vintage, because you know, for obvious reasons, um Muton Rothschild. Um, you know, because you know, that you got you know, it's it's like classic Poyak Bordeaux, like just angular and gravelly and just old, and it, you know, it smells like kissing your grandma. And uh, you know, like it's just like that that that to me, that to me is like Sean Connery, like all day long. Um, you know, it's like because you've got like the Bond pedigree to it. You've got like, you know, Rothschilds are into everything. Someone's gonna kill me for that. But um, but you know, like, but but classic, classic, like right, Sean. Um, but like, but but I think that classic, like, like crunchy Bordeaux style, but but something that does have a lot of age that like smells like a cigar box, you know, that that's just like over the top, a little leathery. Um, you know, I think I think that's that's that's the gun that I'm gonna stick to, pun intended.

SPEAKER_04 58:24

Um that's perfect.

SPEAKER_02 58:27

You guys got me on a really cheeky Friday here. So uh enjoy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 58:34

I love it. All right. Our our final uh character here is enigmatic, is hard to place. This person has been all over so many different characters, so many different directions. Uh, from Bill and Ted's all the way to John Wick, we've got the one and only Keanu Reeves. How are we finishing with this enigmatic character? Uh and and and what are we doing? That's probably let me let me one last thing for Keanu. The worst Napa Valley movie of all time. Like the worst but best. Victoria! I love you. Walk in the clouds, filmed in and around Napa, and sitting there with the wings in like the iconic scene where they've got the wings and they're trying to spread it, and then he's going and doing all this thing. Which, interestingly enough, that fire scene in Walk with the Clouds was filmed in Napa, and they actually did burn some vines uh in and around that area because it was right in the middle of the phylloxra uh problem that hammered Napa a couple years ago. So, Keanu Reeves, uh, where would you go?

SPEAKER_03 59:48

Um, so what I learned about Keanu Reeves is his name is actually a Hawaiian word that translates to cool breeze over the mountains. So instead of a wine uh per se, I just I picked the symphony grape varietal that grows in Hawaii. It is a uh class of mousquet of Alexandra and Grenache Gris. So it's uh more of a floral wine. Um, it's a fruit-driven, a little sweet. And you know, considering that uh Keanu Reeves has uh a reputation for just being an all-around kind, genuine person, I I thought that I thought the symphony grape fit him very nice.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:37

I love it. David, where are you going? I I think I think that's that is like really intellectual, Lynn. That's awesome. Um I was trying to I was trying to play like off the Hawaiian vibe, and I was gonna go to like, you know, like pineapple wine, but nobody likes pineapple wine. So I can't, and I and I I I I do I love Keanu. Like I'm I'm one of those guys where like the Matrix like changed my world, you know. Uh I thought it was so cool. So I have to, for me, I have to give him something that I think is a little more like deeply respectful, but that kind of fits his personality. I'd go like um like some like deep library vintage of Bronello de Montalcino, maybe something like 20 plus years old, and hear me out because like, you know, it's it's kind of an immortal line that that reminds me a lot of like Keanu and a lot of these very like matrix immortal kind of roles that he plays. But it's like you know, Bronello being like sophisticated Sanjo Vesi is is is is very gentle, but when it's youthful, it's a little more tough. So it's like you mix that like John Wick kind of tough personality, but at the same time, like John Wick was like a super nice, caring dude, you know? And um, so yeah, I'd have to stay stay in that like like maybe 20-year-old Bernella vein, as much as I want to call him like fermented pineapple juice. I just I just can't do that in good faith.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:14

Um I I I think that there was a couple angles that I like for Keanu, and one of them was like, first of all, um the Hawaii thing, I was thinking volcanic soil as well. And so, but yet also who he is is like um do Keanu seems to me is like he rides the motorcycles, like Keanu is like the ultimate hipster incarnate. Like, you know, even though he's older, he's still got that whole hipster vibes. I was thinking like an organ pinot noir. Like he to me seems like, you know, because he goes over smooth, but yet he's like kind of got something. And you know, some of those, some of those organ Pinots are grown on some volcanic soil up there as well. So that was the angle I was going. But, you know, I was also thinking like Annette Naroso was something also that I was thinking just to be because you know got that volcanic nature to it. But I don't know. I'm not the expert you guys are. However, I've got the hardest. I love the adversity. I like Oregon.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:19

Like, like Shellem Valley, Shellem Valley, like Pomard, though. Not we're not talking Dijon clones. We're talking Pomard, like you, he's not like he's not like the the the he's like more of the linebacker. He's not like the sexy quarterback. You know, he's like big muscular Pomard. He's not like flirty little Dijon, you know, and grown in that volcanic shell, that would be, dude, that's that's a sick call. I like that one. What about you?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:42

And Lynn, you like the Et Naroso?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:45

I do, yeah. Especially like talking about the volcanic soils. And I just I love Sicilian wines in general, and I also love Keanu Reeves, so yeah. Yeah, I would go at Neroso too for my second choice. I'd love that.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:55

That's a great call. Last, last one for both of you, and then we'll finish up. We went a little over. Hope you guys don't mind. Um, but it's been fun. This is the hardest one of all, and you guys are gonna both hate me for this, but it's gonna give you the most introspection yet today. Uh if you were a wine, what wine would you be?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:18

Oh no.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:20

Oh man. And David, if you were a wine.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:26

Lynn, do you want to tackle it first or should I just start babbling random bullshit?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:31

I can try, sure. So just trying to think about like, you know, who am I as a wine? Um, I'm something that is more of an acquired taste for sure. Um I am something that I, you know, you you learn to love it. So what a like, what is a cool wine? I I'm also just calling myself cool. Um that you learn to love. Let's go with um like a crew beaujolie. Something that like when you first open it up, it might be a little funky, but then like when you swirl it and you get to know it, then you're like, oh, this is actually really good.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:14

Yeah. I love that. Take you for a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:18

Like a nice like Yeah, there you go.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:22

I like it.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:24

Like a morgone or something. Yeah, there you go.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:27

I like it. I like it. God, man. Sean, you got you got me with that one. That's one that you can't prep for. Um, all right. So, you know, heritage-wise, I'm Spanish Basque. So I would call myself like one of my probably favorite wines right now. Um, like Gurachaca Chocolina Rose. You know? Fun, flirty, playful, you know, like a little simple sometimes, you know. Like I can't, uh, I'm not the most complex. Complex individual, but you know, you kind of have to seek me out a little bit. Um, and then, but like, but like once we play a little bit, you're like, holy shit, like I, I, I kind of really like this. I think I might just crush the whole bottle. Um otherwise, otherwise, you know, I'd I'd I'm like very cliche, you know, bald bearded Napa guy be like mountain fruit, how a mountain Napa cab. Like I'd be like done Cabernet Sauvignon. So like two polar opposites. Maybe, maybe that like is my mental split. Um, but I would love to be grower producer champagne. I'm just I'm just not that classy. Um so I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:45

That those are all great. I'm trying to figure out what I would be, and I have literally no idea. But uh one of the ones that I I think would be a fun one was um because I I kind of like to break the rules. I'm all over the place, and I'm kind of doing my own thing, and I don't really listen, like kind of build my own lane. I was simply thinking like a super Tuscan for myself, kind of a rule breaker. Oh cool! I love that doing my own thing, and uh yeah, but why not, you know?

SPEAKER_02 1:07:17

Dude, a powerhouse that broke all the rules, and then everybody had to have it, you know? No one gave a shit about a super Tuscan until like super Tuskins were really cool, man. You know, and uh, you know, not to throw sly compliments out there, but I think that's really fitting, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:34

I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:35

Please do throw the sly compliments out there. Yes, please do. Um, well, was there any celebrity that you really would have loved to have added to the list? Is there anyone that you thought that, like, you know, hey, I would have loved to have thrown this person into the mix? If not, that's totally okay. But I was just curious. Well, then, anybody that you were like that you really wanted to know? Yeah, that was cool.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:58

Well, no, nothing comes to mind. I was just digesting the list as it was.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:04

I would love to tell everyone watching in the comments, throw in there if there was anyone that you thought, you know, hey, I would have loved this one. And if you disagree with us, put it in the comments and definitely reach out. Uh, David Lynn, thank you so much. And uh for everyone watching, thank you for your time and for for watching this bit of chaos that we introduced to the world.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:23

I've got definitely got a quick one for you, Sean. After we watched the Olympics, we had our little gold medal skater coming from Oakland who um you know did the Mac Dre like thizzle bite on the gold medal. Yeah, and I don't have an answer to this, but maybe maybe someone out there does. What would Mac Dre be as a watch? Very random. Very random. Lynn's looking at me like, who are you talking about? Um, but uh I just thought that would be some fun fodder just to see, you know, because you know, bringing it back to the San Francisco Bay Area, just uh just a fun one. And I have no idea what Mac Dre would be, but I just uh I have no idea who Mac Dre is.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:08

I'm so sorry.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:09

I'm like in the background Google, Google on the side screen who is Mac Dre. Um but uh I just thought because it was relative with everything in the news right now, you know, brings it brings it back to some barrier love. But Sean, I love you, man. You're awesome, dude.