Notes for An Awesome Life with John Spence

Make It Easy to Win: Goal Setting That Works

• Notes for An Awesome Life with John Spence • Episode 9

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In this week’s episode of Notes for an Awesome Life with John Spence, John and Josh break down what effective goal setting really looks like. John shares how to use SMART goals without overcomplicating them, how checklists create reliable progress, why imposter syndrome shows up even for high performers, and how a simple “two letter” exercise can radically increase your motivation.

If you want practical tools to start the new year with clarity, purpose, and a plan you can stick to, this episode is for you.

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About John Spence: John is a globally recognized business thought leader, former owner/CEO of five companies, and advisor/coach to organizations from startups to the Fortune 10. He’s lectured at more than 90 universities and was named by the American Management Association as one of “America’s Top 50 Leaders to Watch.”

About the show: Notes for an Awesome Life with John Spence focuses on personal growth, happiness, clarity, and the everyday habits that compound into an AWESOME life.

Credits: Hosts John Spence and Josh Wilson • Produced by Josh Wilson for Familiar Wilsons Media • Special thanks: Amanda Wilson (writing and production), and Domingo Jimenez (writing and marketing).

SPEAKER_01:

This is a familiar Wilsons Media Production. John Spence is recognized as one of the foremost business thought leaders in the world, a global top 100 business thinker and advisor to companies from startups to the Fortune 10. But it didn't start that way. In college, John hit rock bottom, kicked out of one university and rejected by another. That's when he made a decision to change his attitude and take a systematic approach to building the life he wanted. Through hard work and relentless learning, he went on to create a life full of meaning, joy, and connection. I'm Josh Wilson, and this is Notes for an Awesome Life with John Spence. We invite you to join us in conversation as John shares with us the lessons, habits, and tools that he used and that you can use to build an awesome life. Welcome to Notes for an Awesome Life with John Spence. I'm Josh Wilson. And I'm John Spence.

SPEAKER_00:

John, how has your week been? Awesome. I uh I've finished my last major engagement of the year, so I get to still do executive coaching, but just sort of coast uh I don't have to get on a plane again until January 6th, which is awesome. And you?

SPEAKER_01:

Just preparing for the holiday season. We're putting up the Christmas decor on the outside of the house this weekend. So if this is the last show that we do before I've fallen off a ladder, at least I did it with a smile on my face. Or at least that's what I'm going to tell my wife Amanda. Now, this is episode nine of Notes for an Awesome Life, and that of course means that episode 10, our 10th anniversary, is next week. Hopefully you folks will tune into that and celebrate with us. And John, you mentioned off-air that you had heard from some folks about the show. Tell me, what's the word on the street, man?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I've gotten several emails uh from friends and stuff that have said they're listening to it. But I I did have a meeting this week uh with a gentleman that I helped out about a decade ago. I just happened to run into him. I didn't know him very well. He knew of me because of my professor at Santa Bay had talked about me in class. And uh he recognized me, came over, uh, sat down, chatted. I gave him a little help with his business, and he sent me a note during Thanksgiving to say that his business was doing great and he appreciated the help. And uh, we had breakfast this week, and he's he has been doing all of the exercises that we've been recommending. And he said it's made a major change in his life. He actually got you know a little emotional, and uh, which is great. I mean, that that's what this material is supposed to do. So yeah, we're we're uh we're impacting people, hopefully, all positively.

SPEAKER_01:

That's exactly why we're doing this. And and I want more stories like that. Not because we want to pat ourselves on the back, because we want to know this stuff is actually helping real people. So if you are listening and something John has said has helped you or challenged you or made you think, we would love to hear from you. If you disagree with something that John has said and you think he's totally bonkers, I want to hear from you.

SPEAKER_00:

So tell me that for sure.

SPEAKER_01:

Send us an email no matter what to awesomelifenotes at gmail.com. And that brings us to a listener question. Our friend Alex wrote in and he asked this Hi John. Social media and being on our phones constantly seems to be the biggest impediment to people moving forward with trying to be better humans. How do you view social media and are you on it?

SPEAKER_00:

There's a two-part answer there. I am all over social media because of my job. I've got between all the platforms, a couple hundred thousand followers. Uh, so I'm putting out content all the time. Uh, so the other side of the corner is I'm trying to put out quality content that's practical that people can use. Um, so I'm real careful about respecting my audience. The other side of it is I do follow social media. This is funny, I follow a bunch of like reels and stuff that are either like philosophy or I love the ones of soldiers sneaking in uh when they came back from overseas or whatever, and they're nobody in the family knows. Oh, I love those. Yeah, and and they always play that sad music. You see the person turn around, they're like, Oh my god, it's you, and they run across and jump on them and everything. And I watch those and I literally get excited and cry. And I'm, you know, I don't. My friends are like, Hey, did you see this movie? I'm like, I don't go to scary movies, I don't go to sad movies, I don't want to get scared or sad. And why would I pay money and why would I pay$35 for a thing of popcorn and then sit there and spill it because I'm scared to death? So I actually watch social media that either adds value to my life or makes me happy. Or, and you know, the reason I like watching those ones that make me really happy, like when people do super kind things, it reminds me that that's what I'm supposed to be doing. I look at it and go, Wow, that was meaningful. I and I'll quickly do this. I saw one last night where the guy had set up a table. He had a like a little fishbowl and some paper and a pen. It said, Please write down the nicest thing that anyone's ever said to you. And strangers, you know, and I don't know if this was set up, it doesn't look like it was, coming up and writing stuff down and putting it in in the uh fishbowl, then walking away. And every day he reads one. Well, Johnny Boy was definitely crying last night, um, but in a really, really good way of saying, how sweet is that? How kind was that for that person to uh to say that? So that's how I try to consume social media that's either teaching me, uh helping me, or getting giving me joy and making me smile or cry in a very happy way.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I'm with you. I don't like watching scary movies or depressing things. Give me puppies and kitties and homecoming videos, and I'm happy. And it really does two things for me. It does the thing that you're saying, which it reminds me of the kind of person that I want to be, but it also reminds me that there are still kind people in the world. And that's a reminder that in the day of all the negativity that I think that we desperately need. Agreed. Totally agreed. Alex, thanks so much for your question. Again, folks out there, if you have a question or comment, you can email us at awesome life notes at gmail.com. Now, John, when we were talking off air about social media and how we present ourselves to the world, it led us right into another topic that I think a lot of people struggle with. And I'm talking about imposter syndrome. That feeling of no matter what you've done, a part of you still thinks, I'm gonna be found out. They're gonna see that I don't belong. And you had a recent example of this that you were telling about, even after decades of doing what you're doing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I I uh did a session yesterday for a company I've been working with for a long time, very successful organization, and I did their strategy work for them yesterday. And I take all the stuff I do seriously, but strategy work is tough because it's a high wire act. You never know where it's gonna go. And it went really well. I've been doing this for 30 years. I'm like, this one was good, but I still looked at the CEO, go, you happy, everything okay? Anybody need water? Anybody need cookies? I can go get cookies, whatever you want. And it was this, you know, desperate attempt to make sure that everybody was happy. And I share with you before I got in the air, I one of the things that I keep in mind is I saw uh a clip of Oprah Winfrey talking about the fact that no matter who she's interviewed, Nelson Mandela, Mother Teresa, I don't know if they were ever on there, but you know, the most famous stars in the world, she said, as soon as they turn off the camera, the first thing that person will do is turn to her and go, Did I do okay? Was that all right? And you know, just look at it and say, These are very, very, very accomplished people that are still going, I hope I did a good job.

SPEAKER_01:

I can absolutely relate with that. Good to know that presidents and kings think that same way. That at the end of the day, everyone's a human being in a very fancy outfit, or some of us not so fancy, but all the titles and resumes are just trappings, and underneath we're all just hoping that we did okay and try to do the best we can with what we have.

SPEAKER_00:

Yep, best we can with what we have.

SPEAKER_01:

And so that's a good lead-in into what we want to talk about today, and that is how we set and pursue goals in a way that's sustainable and that acknowledges the fact that we're human beings. So we've already talked about in this series of podcasts about mission, about vision and values, which are really big picture things. And today I want to bring it down to street level. How do we actually set goals for ourselves? Now you've got a pretty strong opinion on the number of goals people should have. How many is too many?

SPEAKER_00:

Here's what I've learned about goals. You can't have 57 goals. I don't even think you can have really 10. Um, when people come to my webinars or seminars, rather, I tell them, you know, all these people go to these conferences and they learn all this stuff, you know, and then they go back to their office and nothing happens. And I tell them, that's not my fault, that's your fault. This is good information. I didn't, you know, it's not mine. I stole it from the smartest people in the world. But here's what I tell them: pick three things, just three things you want to do, write it down on a piece of paper, put it on a card, tape it on your mirror, put it on your, you know, and look at those things every day until you can check one off, then add a third one. So I'm a big fan for you know, have broad goals that you understand what are in them. Like for for a couple of years, I had a little sticker when I owned the marketing firm. My one of my designers created this for me. It was a W with an upside, a W with a downside. And it was wealth up, weight down. That was my goal for the year. Make the company more successful and make less of me. And I looked, I had that taped everywhere, had it on my, you know, and I knew behind it what all the elements were that went into that. I knew what it would take to do that, but I kept it in my face. So I was constantly looking at it and saying, that's my major goal, that's what I need to focus on. So I think you had need to have a vivid vision of what your goal means clearly in your mind. You need to, like me, I understood what those meant, but I tried to get it down to just a little mantra that every day I'm looking at it and saying, How do I make this happen today? So, a couple ideas on that, real quick is number one is don't set too many goals because you'll it's self-defeating. And I love the idea of stretch goals, but don't set goals that are so outlandish, they're just gonna you're gonna be disappointed in yourself because you'll never achieve them. I see people set really outlandish goals, and I'm sure in their mind they they want that, and I agree with it, but I look at it and go, wow, you know, in my own mind, I don't see I don't think you're gonna make that. I think you could make three-quarters of that, maybe, but there ain't no way that's happening. And I feel bad for them because you're gonna get to the end of the year and or whatever they have their goal cycle, and they're not gonna make it like somebody that's you know that's making a hundred thousand bucks said within five years I would be making three million dollars a year. I think that's a great goal, except for you unless you do something really spectacular, and winning the lottery is not a good plan. Uh don't set yourself up for failure. And I've said this before, but I love this phrase make it easy to win. Push yourself, but don't push yourself so hard that you put yourself in a corner where you're gonna be disappointed in yourself.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. So we have three big goals and make it easier to win. So I want to shift now to get into the the nuts and bolts of how you structure goals. Now, in your seminars and in your workbook that I have, you talk about SMART goals and you also talk about checklists. And so I want to walk through both. So let's start with SMART goals. Now, many people in the business world, particularly, have heard that acronym, but you have your own little twist on it. What does SMART stand for for you and how do you actually use it?

SPEAKER_00:

Most people probably heard of them, but we'll go through it anyways. And I I've changed mine around a little bit. So SMART stands for specific, measurable, achievable, realistic, time bound. To me, specific and measurable is pretty close. And then if it's uh a realistic, it should be achievable.

SPEAKER_01:

Right. So you were telling me that you substituted agreed upon for achievable, but let's go through them one by one. Uh tell us the specifics of specific.

SPEAKER_00:

The idea to me is it for to be very, very vivid, and I think a specific goal should have some sort of a binary metric on it. For me, I had a goal weight, you know. I want to weigh 234 pounds was my first goal weight when I was at 340. Uh, which by the way, I hit about two weeks ago. Uh yeah, my new goal weights 222. So it's specific enough. Now, I I will tell you on my goal weight, I did not put it time bound. I just said, as long as I'm continuing to lose weight and it's healthy, then I'm fine. As long as I'm going the right direction, it'll it'll take as long as it takes. And it took me several years, took me about four or five years to get here and stay here. I think some people that you know like rush at it and then they turn around and gain the way back. So specific, I just added measurable, it should have a binary on SMA. I have instead of achievable, because I believe that's realistic, I have agreed upon.

SPEAKER_01:

Right, there you go.

SPEAKER_00:

And the idea there is I want people on my team that will help me. Uh, I want people to agree to be on my side. If I'm gonna go on a diet, I'll just use that because that's what I've been living. Is I've asked my wife, let's not bring any sweets in the house. Let I'd I'd like to make minimize the amount of carbohydrates I eat. I don't want to eat bread every night. If she can if she wants to, but I'd appreciate it if, like for me, please don't offer it to me because I'll eat. I mean you give me some bread with butter and some honey. I'm man, it'd be hard. I I know on that stuff, but I don't have great discipline. Oh, you've got tinfoil willpower. Yeah, so again, you know, like agreed upon is uh that would be a weightlifting buddy. Somebody the other days I don't feel like going says, No, I'll meet you at the gym in an hour, be there, I'll kill you. Uh you know, so uh time bound. Again, some of them I put a date on it. I really want it done by this date. Most of the time, I just say if I'm moving in the right direction, uh I want a reasonable date, but I I don't want to pin myself on and say, by me personally, February 18th, 2027, I will weigh 220 pounds. That and I'm that's why I'm being contradictory here. Um, I'd rather just say, you know, by the middle of the year, I'm gonna be moving in this direction. Maybe people need more specificity than I do.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, everyone's different, is the thing. And people listening to this, I think, though, would benefit from more examples of not only you doing these things well, but times where you did this stuff not so well. Like, uh, for example, let's look at specific. Your goal should be clear and well defined. Can you give us an example of when you did this badly?

SPEAKER_00:

I'm trying to I've done plenty of about it. I'm trying to think of a really good example. Um I I'd put a uh I put a number on how much I wanted to make, uh in the bank when I was in my early mid-20s. And I it was specific and I put a due date on it and everything. And then I realized I could get there if I had five jobs and worked 26 hours a day. And I backed up and went, I I I don't think that's worth the effort. I'm not willing to pay that price. I mean, I looked at it and said, I could have done it. You know, my goal was to have a million dollars cash in the bank by the time I was 33, and I was probably 29 at the time, and I wasn't I wasn't that close to it, trust me. I mean, and I said, I can do this, but I'm gonna have to, you know, run two companies, run the company, I'm gonna have to do this other stuff. I literally will have to work every weekend for the next four years straight, 20, you know, 20 hours a day. And I backed up and went, let's just set that date out further and make the number a little bit more flexible.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, and and give us another example of when you smashed it, when you know that you did it really well.

SPEAKER_00:

Setting to become a top thought leader in the world. That one I put a lot of specificity, I put a lot of homework on it. I did not put a due date on it. It again, it was if I'm doing these elements, these things, and I knew what I had to do and I had it clearly written out and measured and everything, and I had people that agreed to help me that would be on my team. Uh, I just figured if I put my head down and kept checking stuff off the list, doing the the smart goals and everything, eventually I would get there. It took 17 years, uh, but that's how long it takes to do that. You know what I mean? You don't wake up in one morning and go, I've decided I'm a global thought leader. Although some people do and they put that on the resume.

SPEAKER_01:

But yeah, that's a choice.

SPEAKER_00:

You can do that, but it's it's not really backed up by much.

SPEAKER_01:

So specific and measurable live really close together for you. So let's move to Mmeasurable. A lot of people will set goals like I want to be happier, for example, which sounds nice, but is not measurable as far as I can tell. But what do you think about that? Measuring the immeasurable, or maybe I want to be happier is something you can measure.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, that's easy. That one scale of one to ten. Oh, see, there that's how what I use. Okay. How happy am I right now? How happy am I today? Today was a you know, today was a three. I need to be happier tomorrow. What can and then the key is what can I do that will make me happier? Can I be go be kind? Can I volunteer? Can I, you know, my I don't give flowers for my wife because we have a big garden in our yard, but can I do something nice for my wife or you know, one of the folks that works with me? So I know the things also. I have a list of things that make me happy. So all I do is say, All right, my score wasn't where it needed to be. Let me go over and look at my list of stuff that I know makes me happy, uh, and do a couple of those, and I should be able to get the score up.

SPEAKER_01:

Leave it to John to make be happy something you can quantify.

SPEAKER_00:

I feel pretty good. I quantify at some level anything. It might be, you know, um, subjective, like, am I happy today versus totally objective? What does it say on the on the scale? But I've again maybe it's something on mine, but I've built everything about coming back and I use a one to ten scale for almost everything. Am I happy today? Was I kind today? Did I not have any stress today? 10 is I had zero stress. I felt, you know, I basically was a jellyfish, you know, rolling down the street. Versus I've, you know, I felt one is I felt a ton of stress. Uh yeah. So I'm I just keep trying to figure out a way to put a one to ten test on things because that works well with me.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, so let's move to A in your version, which is agreed upon. So this is about not going it alone. Can you give us an example of when you tried to go it alone and it did not work out so well?

SPEAKER_00:

I could go into 100. I think we tried the I failed out of college first try because I didn't ask anybody for help. I thought I could handle it. I didn't talk to the professors, I didn't talk to anybody. And that was one of the biggest first lessons, and we've discussed that is the power of asking for help. You know, when I was really heavy, um, I I had a weightlifting buddy, and he would work one of the guys to work with me. And every day we went to the gym to do something, no matter you know how busy. We were or how uh I didn't feel like going today. No, he's like, get in the car, we're going. Uh, so that was the kind of people I try to surround myself with that are gonna be on my team. And when they know that I'm like, I quit drinking. Uh, my friends know that, so they don't, you know, like, hey John, you want a beer? No, I don't. So they don't even ask. They're they support that in me. And so I don't have to have any discipline because I have people on my or I do have discipline on that, but I don't I don't have any temptation because my friends are kind enough to support me in that and not ask me to go out drinking, you know. Let's go out for cocktails. I'll be drinking water. You're still welcome.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh very good. So let's get to our realistic. So you already touched on this a little bit. Any more thoughts on unrealistic goals, maybe that you have set?

SPEAKER_00:

I've set multiple unrealistic goals in my life, then had to back up and say, why'd I do that to myself? I mean, I've looked back on some of my goals from years ago and went, that was never gonna happen. I I was too naive to think that I could accomplish that in six months or a year.

SPEAKER_01:

Sure. And and that speaks to this idea of T uh it being time bound and looking at that realistically. But when you reach the point of failure, and to be honest, we could dedicate a whole show or a whole series of shows on failure, but when you reach the point of failure, um, you have the opportunity to look at your goal and say, well, was that unrealistic, or did I just really not equip myself with all the tools that I need in order to get that done?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. And and it's usually a combination of both. Uh that it was and it's kind of like I'll use a business example. It's when the sales manager sets an unrealistic sales goal. The sales people say, Why even try? I'll never get there. So if you had set one that was a bit more realistic, they might be motivated to go for it and get bonus. But when you set it, you know, twice what you could ever get, they're like, ah, it's not worth the effort. I'll never get there, anyways. And I see that happen with people with their goals that get about halfway there and realize I ain't gonna happen. Um there's no way I'm gonna do, I'm gonna lose 100 pounds by the end of the year. Um I'll just let's go get some cake.

SPEAKER_01:

Listen, that resonates with me, pal. Um, I do want to talk about a little bit though, because again, the idea is that let's say we start the day or the week a house of fire with our commitments. Let's say that it's to eat well and avoid sweets. You're doing great throughout the day, and then someone brings a cupcake and just sets it there in the office on the counter, just for anyone to grab. And you say, I'll just have a little bit. And then all of a sudden you've had four, and you say, Well, forget it. I might as well eat whatever I want for the rest of the day because I've screwed today up. Surely there's a there's a way that we can tackle that and and get up back on the horse.

SPEAKER_00:

So I that's great. I love what you just said, and I'll tell you what a tool, two tools that I've used to do that. Um, when it's something really important, like losing weight or whatever it might be, like in college, I sat down and I wrote myself two letters. Letter one was, what will your life look like if you don't achieve this? What are all the bad things that would happen to you if you fail out of college, never get back in? You know, what how will it impact your career, your marriage, you know? And I I did on purpose make it the worst I could possibly think of. What's the worst outcome that could happen? Uh, and then I'd put on the other another letter to myself, what's the best that could happen? What are all the cool and great things that would happen if I see? And I read that letter every morning. When I got up, I read the bad letter and the good letter. And I said to myself, I want to avoid everything on this bad letter, don't do anything that would lead me there. And let's shoot as much as we can for for heading towards everything that's a good letter. And that allowed me to make decisions during the day. Is this going to help me achieve what I want or is this not going to help me achieve? And that the pleasure pain, which is what pretty much motivates everybody in the world to go towards pleasure and avoid pain. I set that up at the highest poles that I could. Uh, and then the other thing is I keep telling, like, right, you know, when I'm on diets and I'm losing weight, or now that I just quit drinking a couple of months ago, when I get in the morning, I'm thinking, man, this feels great. You know, there is no cocktail that's worth not feeling like this in the morning. There's no piece of cake that's worth like right now, me not having any clothes that fit because they're all so damn baggy on me. Like, I gotta go buy new belts. This is one of the happiest things of my life. And I when I think about it, I'm like, I didn't eat the dessert, I didn't do this because this feels so much better than the temporary enjoying uh a margarita or enjoying a you know a piece of key lime pie. This is much better than that would ever could ever be.

SPEAKER_01:

So well, it's interesting that we tend to agonize over our defeats much more than we tend to celebrate our victories.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, the research shows that uh pain is more of a motivator five times more than pleasure. You will move away, you'll take a lot more energy and motivation to move away from something bad than you will towards something that you think is good. Hence the reason I put both letters, and that's not catastrophizing, like this is gonna happen, you know, my life could just saying if I don't do this, these are some of the things that it could lead to. I don't want it to, you know, it isn't gonna happen because I'm gonna go this other way.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. So let's do talk a little bit about checklists. Some people, the whole smart layout may not work with them.

SPEAKER_00:

Let's that's why I use checklists. We'll just use me. Um, I I'm not big on, although I use it, I put it out as a tool because a lot of people like it. Um, mine is I sit down and just research the heck out of what I'm trying to accomplish. Like, let's use losing weight. I'll give give you an example. That's one that I live. A lot of people struggle with that. Remove uh remove sweets from the house, check. Exercise at least 45 minutes a day, check. Um, you know, drink plenty of water, check. Uh weigh yourself daily, check. Uh, you know, and I have a list uh that I know if I do all the things on this list by default, the goal is going to happen. So I don't worry about too much other than I'm meeting, I'm checking stuff off the list every day, or I've got that list and I can check it off the stuff I'm supposed to do every day. I've done every day.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, and I love that because it turns I want to lose weight into okay, here are five things that I have to do today. All right, John. So for the people who are listening who are now thinking about their own goals, do you have homework for us today?

SPEAKER_00:

Figure out maybe smart goals works for you. Maybe checklist works for you. There's other systems for setting goals. And if you're really serious about it, I would go find a system that works for you. Uh, whether it's the like me, the three goals, the this, the checklist, but sit down and write some. And my big advice is don't write 20, write three. Three big goals. You know, I always ask people or tell people in class, what are three things you can start right away that would have a dramatic positive impact on your life? What can you get up to do tomorrow? Start doing tomorrow that you can look back a couple of months or a couple of years from now and say, my life is totally different. It's really changed in a positive way. If you can think of three things that you could start tomorrow that would have a dramatic positive impact on your life, write those down, get up tomorrow, start doing them. It's pretty much that clear and simple.

SPEAKER_01:

And if I were to add something to this, I would say this: whatever you do, don't try to do it alone. The power of accountability, as John has said, is huge. And it's one of the things I believe in very deeply. And that's the most important thing in our lives is the deep connections that we have with other people. And that's a big reason why John and I are doing this, because we believe so very strongly that the connections we have with other people are the thing that will carry us towards an awesome life. We're connectional beings. We're built to be with other people. We're built to love and to be loved. One of the our essential human desires is to be understood by others and to understand others. And so that speaks to the fact that we need other people. So I absolutely encourage you to reach out to someone, especially if you're struggling or trying to change something, whether it be big or small, just realize you don't have to do it on your own. I can't do it on my own. John can't do it on his own.

SPEAKER_00:

No, a big lesson. I and if you try, it's not going to work well. Yeah. Everything becomes easier when you have a team of people that are on your team that want you to win that will hold you accountable. And then the other side of that is who can you do that for? Who can you be the accountability buddy or the supporter or the cheerleader that they need in their life to move in the right direction and achieve some of their goals?

SPEAKER_01:

And the world would be a better place when we realize that we can all be on the same team. All right, folks, we would love to hear your story. Write us again at awesomelifenotes at gmail.com and let us know what your three goals are or how you're putting this into practice. And if you want us to share your story on the show, tell us that too. You can learn more about John Spence at johnspence.com. That's johnspence.com. It's a great website filled with resources and blogs and other helpful information. This is a production of Familiar Wilsons Media. We make podcasts. If you would like us to make one for you, then come see us at familiarwilsonsmedia.com. Special thanks as always to Amanda, to Domingo, and the other folks on John's wonderful team, and of course, to John himself. John, you got anyone you want to shout out this week?

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, every week it's my wife, but uh I will shout out the the gentleman, and I won't use his name that was kind enough to send me the note to say this information has been helping me or helping him and to let me know that things the kind of stuff you and I are teaching here or sharing had a dramatic positive impact on his life. He is in a much, much, much better path than he was 10 years ago. And it's a joy to see. And he did all the work. He did the work. He took the ideas, like the ideas were sharing, and he did the work, and his life is dramatically better.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, whoever you are out there, I'm so glad to hear that it helped. All right, folks, until next week. That guy right over there is John Spence. I'm Josh Wilson, and you all go out there and live life awesomely!