Guns 'N Rosaries
Welcome to Guns 'N Rosaries – a spin-off from Avoiding Babylon, dedicated to firearms, self-defense, and self-preparedness through a Catholic lens. Join hosts Rob, a passionate firearms enthusiast from Avoiding Babylon, and Adrian, a Marine veteran of the Global War on Terror, as they blend practical skills with faith-based insights. Whether you're honing your marksmanship, building resilience, or preparing for uncertain times, we've got you covered. Subscribe for reviews, tips, discussions, and more! God bless.
Guns 'N Rosaries
Threats Outside of Churches and Desecration of Altars: What Every Catholic Must Know
A man reportedly climbed the steps at St. Peter’s and defiled the altar. Days earlier, police intercepted a would-be bomber at the Red Mass in DC. We don’t dwell on outrage—we ask what faithful, ordinary people can actually do to keep worship reverent, families safe, and hearts steady in a jittery world. We swap farm mishaps and late starts for a reason: small chaos trains big readiness. From St. Louis IX’s fierce piety to the everyday temptations living in our pockets, we break down how fathers can teach kids to avoid sin without crushing their joy, and how a parish can strengthen security without turning liturgy into a checkpoint.
We get practical. Who should sit near the doors, and why? What tells an usher it’s time to step in? How does de-escalation beat bravado nine times out of ten? We outline simple, repeatable steps any church can take: greet to deter, assign watch posts, practice radio calls, map exits, and train for the rare moment when someone crosses the altar rail with malice. We also unpack the DC case to separate signal from noise: some threats posture to scare, some intend harm and hide. Either way, urban anonymity and thinning police coverage make awareness and community coordination non-negotiable.
Underneath tactics is a deeper call: holiness as the ultimate security posture. Confession restores clarity. Penances fortify the will. Reverent worship orders the room and makes disorder obvious. Culture matters too—irony and shock merch don’t make men brave; self-command and charity do. By the end, you’ll have a clear picture of how to pair vigilance with welcome: a parish that feels warm and watchful, a family that is calm and prepared, and a heart that stays anchored when the world shouts. If this helped, subscribe, share it with a friend at your parish, and leave a review so more people can find it.
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SPEAKER_03:You see, you're having to just own up to your Anthony mannerism. He's rubbed off on you and accept it.
SPEAKER_01:I I I don't know if that's something I can ever accept.
SPEAKER_03:Do you at least have a good excuse where you're like buying a gun or something? I actually was.
SPEAKER_01:So so we we don't have a like a local gun store. Everything's 45 minutes away. Uh and the the next the closest place that has guns has a pretty small selection. It's a it's a fleet, you know, it's a fleet supply store basically that has a gun counter. But I ordered something on PSA or something like that and have it shipped there. But it's still a 45-minute drive. Uh and I knew I'd be cutting it close tonight, but I figured I could I could cut in just right at time to go there after work. But then I started having car issues. So that was awesome.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that's how it goes, man. Like when you're not expecting it, um, tomorrow morning I've got to go get a trailer because I'm taking my steering to get processed on Thursday. I just know something's gonna happen. Like the trailer tires gonna blow, or like it just is how it goes. Lights won't work, something like that, yeah. Like the tail lights won't work or something, you know. Uh last time I borrowed a trailer um from a friend of ours, and I ended up getting a 10-penny nail in it. Oh no, so I don't know where that even came from. Um, so I had to go take the tire off, I had to, you know, jack it up, take the tire off, take it down to the uh local tire place, have them fix it, and then bring it back, and then I had to load the and then because loading steer into into trailer can be a pain. And you kind of have to trap them and get them used to it overnight, or just being around it, and then the next morning you kind of kind of lead them in, and that's why they have an escape hatch out the side, so you can lead them in. Somebody closes the gate behind them and you jump off the escape hatch.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, it sounds like anytime I try to take Anthony somewhere, so yeah, I get that.
SPEAKER_03:It's almost like having a really dangerous kid, which is most kids. It's almost like taking Anthony around, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's uh this week's crazy. In fact, tonight I'm I have to cut short at eight, so we gotta, you know, get 35 minutes. Yeah, I've got a I got another meeting I gotta do. I got a work meeting I gotta do at eight, and I couldn't push it off, and these people need some some assistance. So I've got till eight. Um, so we can go over some things, but uh, I was so I was reading this weekend. I don't know if you all have read this, but this is uh Defenders of the West.
SPEAKER_01:I forget if I've read that one or um you did Sword and Scimitar, too, right?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, did Sword and Scimitar. So this one is about different uh warrior class, Catholic warriors throughout history and their fight against Islam. But I was reading this to my daughter, who's 13, um, and I was reading it to her, and this stuck out to her a lot. So this is quick, it's like five sentences. Louis attended Mass daily, prayed punctually, and performed works of charity. He grew to be of courteous and gentle speech. In 1234, at age 20, the king married Margaret of Province, whose beauty and religious devotion were renowned. They raised their nine children, two others died in infancy, with pious discipline and severity. Like mother, like son, Louis once said that he would sooner wish that all his sons were dead than that they might offend God through moral sin. So I read that to my daughter, and uh she's like, How would you feel that about us? You know, realistically speaking, y'all have already committed some moral sins. Like I'm I'm glad you're not dead, you know. But um, but that's the that's the thinking I have to try and impart to my kids is you have to do everything you can to keep from any type of moral sin. If you do commit moral sin, because it is so easy now because we have these little black boxes in our pocket all the time, um, you know, especially me, and and uh you have to do everything you can, and if you do sin, um then you have to you know do an act of contrition as soon as you can. Yeah, did you read that? You know, the uh the first anime I ever watched is uh uh Evangelion. Is that it? Okay, I've never seen that one I've heard it in Akira, right? But this was 26 years ago. This is a long time ago.
SPEAKER_01:This is in your emo phase.
SPEAKER_03:It wasn't my emo phase, actually. And my uh yeah, and my who man, I'm trying, I was trying to think of some of my favorite bands at the time. Um uh Alkaline Trio was one of my favorite bands. I don't know if you ever heard of them.
SPEAKER_02:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_03:Um, who else? Uh Dashboard Confessional was kind of like the pop version of a lot of these bands.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Um, but man, I was listening. In fact, I was listening to someone with the kids this weekend. They're like, Dad, do you like this music? I was like, I don't like it anymore, but I used to. Then I got into a lot of like heavy metal, you know, Screamo type stuff. Um, you know, like who um betray you got really into real big into tray you, but yeah, that's that's me. I listen to it now, like why like I still kind of like it just because I'm I used to like it, you know. There's no way I'll let my kids listen to this.
SPEAKER_01:I I never got into like the Screamo stuff, but um I I was big into like Iron Maiden, so some of the 80s, you know, heavy metal, um, and then all a lot of the like the power and symphonic metal stuff too. Yeah, and I I do still still enjoy it, I'll be honest.
SPEAKER_03:Anime is uh singularly responsible for the downfall of Japan.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, I think maybe two nuclear weapons maybe had a little something to do with it, potentially.
SPEAKER_03:It was anime. I I lived in Japan for two years, and that stuff is everywhere. And I can't tell you I've never seen a masculine Japanese person when I was in Okinawa. Now, Okinawa is not technically mainly in Japan. Yeah, they're they're really a mix between the Riku, their Ryukyu Islands is a mix between Chinese and Japanese, right? But um, I never ever saw a masculine Japanese man ever. They're all just very of the effeminate, and and that culture is very is too polite as well, um, to a fault, but and that's hard for us to see as America. It's a little easiest for us in the south because we're pretty polite down here, but not no, they're not as submissively polite like they are in Japan, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But yeah, I mean there's a reason why their birth rate is not like 1.2 or something, it's it's they're in a race to the bottom with South Korea to see which one won't exist first.
SPEAKER_03:And it was because they're materialist societies, you know. When I went to South Korea in 2007, I think it was, um, they're very hedonistic, sexualized, materialist society. Now, you do have a lot of Catholic churches in South Korea as well. Um, I did see uh I was surprised how many Catholic churches I saw there, but uh it's not enough to turn the tide, they're all just horrible.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I mean, it's what's gonna end up happening is the North is gonna end up winning the Korean War just um by default, basically, eventually by the year 2100, you know what I mean? Yeah, they'll probably have a higher birth rate.
SPEAKER_03:They do. They'll just he'll just force everyone, they'll just all be Kim ill Kim Jong-un's kids, right? But he'll have a higher birth rate. He's just he's just populating all of North Korea all by himself. Oh, my light is all I can always tell my kids coming here. Oh, that's so bright. Because nothing like everything's all out of whack. I've got a uh chicken in here again, but this one's broody, and so she's hatching eggs. So you won't hear her at all this time, not like last time. No, last time it was like a farmhouse in here. It was crazy. I had to put them outside, and in fact, one of those chickens died, and so I had to feed it to the pigs.
SPEAKER_01:So uh you started off with the quote from King St. Louis. You might know these two random facts, but my two favorite random facts about King Louie is one, um, and we talked about this on Avoiding Batamon the other day, but uh he went to mass twice a day, every day, only received communion six times per year. And then my second favorite random fact about him. No, that wasn't even one of my two. Okay, so three, that was number one. Number two, he wore hair shirts all the time. You know, you're talking, you're talking a king, you know, outwardly he had all these royal clothes, but underneath everything he had a hair shirt. Yeah, and then my third favorite random fact is he was known to be very jolly and good natured, but on Fridays, as a penance, he did not allow himself to laugh.
SPEAKER_03:I wonder if he had a spiritual director who was like, hey, laugh too much, man. It's starting to be a little bit of an issue. On Fridays, you need to fast from laughing.
SPEAKER_01:It's out of hand, gotta reel that back in, king. Oh, trivia. So yeah, 1800.
SPEAKER_03:This is another portion from the book I had no idea about. So uh let me see if I can find it again. Um yeah, here it is. So from his earliest youth, Louis had a frail construction constitution and was prone to sickness. Soon after learning about the jihadist sack of Jerusalem in late 1244, Louis fell severely ill with a high fever and dysentery. Week after week, his condition deteriorated until his family, leading barons and churchmen, found themselves helplessly standing around their young king's deathbed. Finally, on a gray day, he was pronounced dead. A sheet was pulled over him, and everyone in the chamber burst into tears, his mother hysterically so. Unwilling to give up on Louis, his brother Robert implored the corpse king to return, at which point Louis, it is relayed, suddenly sat up and cried that he would take the cross, for my spirit has long been overseas, and my body will go there. It is God's will and will wrest the land from the Saracens. Blessed is he who aids me in that. Well, so he died, and then his Robert was like, Get up, you sissy, and he got up.
SPEAKER_01:You you know that had to give his brother a big head for the rest of his life. Look, bullying was guys, remember that time I brought him back from the dead.
SPEAKER_03:I literally called him a retard, and he got right back up. Y'all remember that bullying works, it absolutely works.
SPEAKER_01:Remember that, guys. If you're ever in a firefight and your buddy goes down, just call him a but no, I can't use that word. Call him a retard. Call him a retard. Sissy retard. Yeah, sissy is not the word I'd use.
SPEAKER_03:Trying to keep this PG. Have you seen the the shirt that Nick Ventez is selling?
SPEAKER_01:Okay, I saw a tweet, but I assumed it was a joke. It's not a joke.
SPEAKER_03:That's the problem with irony poisoning.
SPEAKER_01:You can never know. I hate it, guys. It's why I hate April Fools. I cannot stand April Fools. I hate it. My wife, I've had to tell my wife this every year, the day before. Like, if you pull something tomorrow, you are gonna be in trouble because I hate it.
SPEAKER_03:I saw that like, there's no way this is serious. Oh, it you can buy it. Oh, yeah. Yeah, because yeah, that's gonna so in the Marine Corps, when they were teaching us McMahon, Marine Corps, Marine Corps martial arts program, whatever it is, they teach you just enough really to get your your ass kicked, right? Um and a lot of guys like would learn the couple of moves and they go out in town and think they're bad and they'd get in a fight and get beat up. Well, I feel like this is going to be the same thing for like little white kids at college. You know, they're gonna go to college and they're gonna have this shirt on, and people are gonna know what it means and they're gonna get beat up for it. What does it say again? Um well it's an initialism, right? So it's initials of uh what is it? W-A-N G. What is it?
SPEAKER_01:I'm trying to remember. Let me see if I can find it. Let me just Google this here.
SPEAKER_03:Wang Hoff, I think is what it is. Wang Hoff. Yeah. White.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Put in the private chat. Okay.
SPEAKER_03:We're having to we're having to uh get blocked on our first show on our new channel.
SPEAKER_01:I know, right? I can't believe I got Avoiding Babylon taken off of YouTube because of a gun. I can. Everyone's like, no, I get it. Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Yeah, I said little white kids. You know, like none of these kids have been ever been in a fight in their life. There's skinny little pencil necks, that's why they're at college, right? They've never done a day of hard labor in their life. Um, that's why you know that's why some of the the best seminaries require their seminarians to do hard manual labor during the summers when they're off. Right? A lot of the fraternal, uh, the fraternal uh fraternity does it, the fraternity parent uh seminary does it.
SPEAKER_01:Um yeah, I gotta change the the banner. Dessay avoiding babylon, doesn't it? Well we'll deal with it, guys. Look, we're not prepared. Just get over it. I didn't make the channel, I didn't make the new channel till yesterday morning.
SPEAKER_03:Which you shouldn't have done because it was Sunday.
SPEAKER_01:I was up at 5 30 a.m. Kids sick? No, they were asleep, which I meant I had time to myself.
SPEAKER_03:Those are the uh golden hours. They are when you actually can actually do stuff here. I just get up and drink coffee, and sometimes I scroll my phone in the mornings because I can't do it the rest of the day. But all right, let's get into these stories. Uh since I've got 25 minutes left. Let's do the uh which one you want to do first.
SPEAKER_01:Well, uh I mean the the one everyone's more familiar with is obviously the St. Peter's Basilica, but and that's probably what more people are more likely to deal with in their parish. But obviously the more serious one is the guy that did 200 bombs. Prepper show we're not prepared. Darn it, you got us.
SPEAKER_03:All right, let's do the uh Vatican one first then. Okay, um, you want to pull it up?
SPEAKER_01:I mean, I don't have anything to pull up at it. Is there a uh let's see Vatican who had the article on it?
SPEAKER_03:Uh I think I saw uh Michael Haynes said something, didn't he? Probably. I'll I'll look him up real quick. I'm just gonna do a quick Google real quick and see if we can find it that way. Let's see what uh see what AI says about it. Oh here's a here's an EWTN article.
SPEAKER_01:I'll put it in the uh Yeah, Michael Haynes does not have something.
SPEAKER_03:He doesn't have anything?
unknown:No.
SPEAKER_03:I'm gonna put it in the private chat.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:There you go. Pull that up. So if y'all didn't see this, as Ross pulling it up, uh a man decided to climb the altar to St. Peter's and urinate on it. During mass, right? I believe so. Um which we've we've had similar instances at other parishes around here. Let me see if I can let me look at this. All right, so as you you got because you have to climb the steps or or jump the altar rail to even get up there.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Um was promptly reached by plain coast police officers present, and the basilica was scored out of the church. So my thing is, is what is the what is the procedure? Like, do you have to re-consecrate the altar? Because I think they were just doing an act like a penitential rite of some sort, like it wasn't there, they definitely weren't saying they were reconsecrating.
SPEAKER_01:Right. So I'm by no means an expert on this, and no one should probably listen to me to what I'm about to say. But my understanding is is that something is only desecrated if it is used purposefully in a way opposed to its purpose. So if you take um take something that's like if you were to hold a black mass on an altar, then that altar would be desecrated, it would need to be reconsecrated. As far as I know, things like vandalism and such don't desecrate a consecrated item. Um does this? I I don't know if I don't I don't know. But um, but it would not surprise me if they come out and say that they do not need to reconsecrate it and just need to perform some sort of penitential rite.
SPEAKER_03:Like how many so when the Pachamama was put on the altar, did they ever reconsecrate it?
SPEAKER_01:I doubt it. No, that that I think is is more of a you know technical desecration than than this. Um but I don't believe they reconsecrated it.
SPEAKER_03:I think it just it shows a lack of seriousness and a lack of um piety in in the Vatican at this point. You know, from Francis to now. Um there's no one that takes it seriously. And I'm glad plain clothes officers got to him quickly. Uh, because it's it's hard to it's hard to determine what someone's motives are, right? You know, are they simple of mind and they just want to go up and see it? Um, you know, like but still like no one should be getting on the altar. There should be someone stopping them there, which is a lot of reason that a lot of churches have ushers is to help with that stuff as well. It's just the ushers are always like the oldest, slowest most guys in the passive aggressive thing, yeah, people uh in the world, yeah. You know, and and I I think what we're seeing is our is a reminder every week of how lax a lot of us are and how how much we are unwilling to confront and uh you know kind of be able to step in front of people if it makes us uncomfortable. You know, we've had issues here in our diocese where we've had uh people interrupt a mass by you know sitting in the front pew writing stuff on their forehead in front of the priest. Uh, we've had issues with at EWTN a man uh tried to attack the priest during mass. Um so I think here in the South, we're uh you know we're a little bit more willing to do something than a lot of your more liberal parishes because that's what that's who that's what they're gonna target. They're gonna target very liberal parishes where they know no one's gonna do anything.
SPEAKER_01:They know they'll get away with it, right?
SPEAKER_03:They these are very soft, easy targets. They're not gonna go to the mass where it's a bunch of you know bumper stickers of NRA bumper stickers on the trucks stuff, right? They're gonna go to the mass where there's you know rainbow flags everywhere, and uh and they're and they're picking these on purpose. It's the same thing with the uh the the psychologist who did the study with the prisoners um and going over you know and talking to them, like how do you pick a victim, right? Especially young kids. Like, how do you you know some of these pedophiles and stuff? Like, how do you pick a victim? And they always look for soft or weak dads or no dads, right? Because they can size people up. It is not hard to size someone up, like the best defense you can have for a lot of these things is just look dangerous. You don't even have to be dangerous, just look dangerous, right? And it'll off put a lot of these people. Um, just need a good RBF. Yeah, yeah. Uh my wife, yeah. Well, I'm gonna not say anything about that one, but um too far already. I get a lot, I get a lot of times where I have people who don't know if I like them, right? Because they're like, does Adrian even like me? You know, because but like new people I meet at you know, church or wherever. Um, because I just I've I've had to train myself to have that look, you know, just to always uh just because I've got three girls, man, and plus my wife, you know, like they need my protection. Like, I can't be like, I would love to be the jovial guy, but I don't have that luxury.
SPEAKER_01:Um I need to I need to work on that because I have the opposite problem. There people that I absolutely despise will think I'm buddies with them. I'm like, I don't know how he could make it more clear to you that I really dislike you, but apparently I need to do that more.
SPEAKER_03:That's that midwestern attitude, though. You know, you like you're always just trying to be, you know, just just very uh convivial with people, you know, and just you don't want to rock the boat, make people upset, but like I don't I don't have a Southern jarhead genetics.
SPEAKER_00:I like how it's Southron. Southern.
SPEAKER_03:But uh I forgot my train of thought. I I I got complimented and I don't know what to do with myself. Like any man, I'm gonna hang on to that one for a year.
SPEAKER_01:Um doesn't even matter that it came from another man.
SPEAKER_03:I don't care, whatever. It could it's nicer coming from a man, you know? Like they know what we go through. They know what we go through, like that they're they're aware of the pains we go through.
SPEAKER_01:It I'm sure you've seen this online, but uh like uh dudes posting W posted it a week or two ago, but the the note one guy left another guy at like Yosemite, like how the he he saw the guy camping with his kids and he wrote this note to him like, dude, you're killing it, you know. Keep up the good work. It's like yeah, that does mean something.
SPEAKER_03:It does, it absolutely does. When another man recognizes the good job you're doing, right? Whether regardless of what it is, like if you're you know doing some type of trade or whatever, and he's like, Man, you're killing it. Like there's there's times that you know I'm just out and I'll just I'll just compliment a man for no reason. Like, man, I love your hat. Like, I don't even know the dude, right? He's probably homeless. I don't know, I don't care. But like that guy's day is instantly better, right? Out with it. We're friends here. We're friends.
SPEAKER_01:No, I'm good. She's gonna say you make a hell of a bear, Adrian.
SPEAKER_03:We um I was at a McDonald's a couple of years ago, and we were like getting there's a car dealership down the street from me. We were getting new tires or something. And I went inside to get something to eat for the kids, and it was one of those things where like they had to had to wait outside, it was COVID or something, so I had to wait outside for it. Yeah, and uh and the girl comes out and gives it to me, and right in front of my wife goes, You have very beautiful eyes. I still hear about it to this day. That was four years ago. Four years ago.
SPEAKER_01:On one hand, like you're still holding on to it, like, yeah, I got nice eyes. On the other hand, it has not been worth it because of the crap you've received. It has your wife, right?
SPEAKER_03:I I'll tell you, so my oldest is 13. I got a ticket for running a red light in 2018, seven, maybe even 17. I still hear about it today, of course. She's like, Dad, remember that time you ran the red light? Because they had my picture and everything, right? As I'm like running the red light, you know. She's like, They sent that in the mail, yeah. They sent a picture of me running the red light. Was it Marietta, Georgia? Yeah, I remember. That's funny. I remember because my kids won't let me forget it. Of course. Yeah, all right. So let's do this other story.
SPEAKER_01:Well, okay, but with this at St. Peter's, like Yeah, something something like this happens in your church. Some guy comes up, pull, pulls down his trousers. What the heck do you do?
SPEAKER_03:Like well, hopefully you've got someone on staff that's really good with a slingshot. Or a pellet gun. Uh so like that's a guy where like you don't you just you just grab him just any way you can, do it down and dirty, and get him out of there, right? You you don't worry about you know being nice, you don't worry about not hurting him, you just get him down and get him out of there. If he's at that point now, if he's that's why it's so important for a lot of church security teams to learn more de-escalation techniques than anything, yeah, because you're gonna use that more than any other skill you have. And it's why it's also important to have men on your security or your safety team, whatever you want to call them, um, that have the right temperament for it. You don't want anybody that's just looking to hurt somebody. Um, you want to have people who are willing to uh de-escalate things if they need to. Um, you know, because we we had an incident, I don't know, probably six months ago. We're in the middle of mass, isn't it? We're not quite at the consecration yet. And uh and an old gentleman from the neighborhood just comes in and starts walking up down the aisles, and he looks like he's looking for somebody, and then he leaves. And so I walked out to you know, I was like, Hey, can I help you? Um, and apparently some guy just robbed him and ran away, and he thought he ran into our parish, right? Uh, but I was the only one that got up. Well, I take that back. We had did have a security guy, but he was so far away he couldn't get to it, Tom. But um but no one else like thought anything, and it was out of the ordinary, it was somebody obviously had never been here before. He's obviously not dressed for masks, like you know, so it wasn't for someone in there to hurt, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:You have no idea.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, exactly. But I was the only one, and so I wonder how many guys after that made the decision, okay. Next time I'm gonna get up, right? Or next time something happens, I'm gonna be the one that does something, you know. Because when I'm at mass, I sit specifically next to the door, you know, one of the doors, and we have two doors that come in up in the parking lot, and I sit next to one because if something happens, someone comes out of the door to do something, I want to be able to react to them first. Um, and we've got a couple of guys who stepped up on our safety team who are helping now. And to be honest with you, it's really better for single guys to do it. That way the married man can be with their family during mass. But if you can't you don't have anybody, it might be you that has to step in and do it. Um, you know, but it's just it's a matter we have a society of people who don't who avoid confrontation at every cost, they don't care, like they just whatever they do, just uh not make a fuss. Um, and we have and then that's a matter of that's how you rate, that's how they've been raised. Um to be honest with you, that's how I was raised. It took the Marine Corps to break that out of me. Um, so I get it. Um, but that's we've got to do better by our sons.
SPEAKER_01:For sure. Okay, so I have the story on this DC event. Um just get it the right size here to share. Okay, here we go. So this one it says a hate feel. Hate filled New Jersey man arrested before the annual Red Mass in DC had at least 200 explosives in a tent outside. A notebook declaring hatred for ICE and the Supreme Court justices who were due to arrive at the Catholic Church. Um, so he was 41. He pitched his tent, really. Really? Um, on the steps of the Cathedral of St. Matthew the Apostle, and allegedly told cops who approached him, You might want to stay back and call the Federales. I have explosives. Um, during attempted negotiations with officers, he allegedly handed them a notebook in which he espoused hatred for the Catholic Church, Supreme Court justices, Jews, and U.S. immigration and custom enforcement, according to the document. And there he is right there. So I guess my my question is why did anyone allow him to pitch a tent on the steps of the church?
SPEAKER_03:Well, it's DC, right? There's a lot of homeless in DC already. Um, and it's also uh in it it's the cathedral parish of uh Wilton Gregory, isn't it? No, uh who's there now? Mahoney? McCroy, who is it?
SPEAKER_01:It is Gregory.
SPEAKER_03:Is it Gregory? Yeah, he's no it's not Gregory anymore. Isn't it McLean? Who just came over from San Diego?
SPEAKER_01:I guess Malcolm, yeah, you're right. And he Gregory was Atlanta, but he was he retired. He aged out. Oh yeah, okay. Everyone's saying, yeah, Malcolm.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, he aged out.
SPEAKER_01:Um, and he's I mean it doesn't matter, they're the same person, more or less, but yeah, well, yeah, he's just you know black.
SPEAKER_03:But uh uh he's a you know he's a liberal, so he brought you know he's not one to do anything for the homeless. And even better, if the guy had like an Israel flag on his tent, he probably would have left him there as well, you know, because like one of us. But um but nobody he hated the Jews too. Um my issue when I I don't say my issue, but one of the things I noticed was that he made sure people knew he had it. He he didn't ever look, he didn't ever want to do anything.
SPEAKER_01:Right. There was, I mean, I'm not gonna say there was no danger, but the threat was actually pretty low, really.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, he now he had a lot, and who knew who knows if it was any of it was even viable at all. Um, you know, you you can just shove a bunch of black powder in some pipes and say it's a bomb, but if you don't have any means of actually lighting it.
SPEAKER_01:But uh by the way, you two we are not instructing people how to do this.
SPEAKER_03:Correct. That's correct. Um, there are other ways to learn that, and it's not on YouTube. But um what I have seen lately, especially with the uprising antifa and the escalation of a lot of these far-left black bloc groups, um, whether it's John Baum Gun Club, uh, Redneck Revival, whatever it is, one, they've all started to go underground now that they're considered uh domestic terrorist organization.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you have the guy who wrote the handbook running flying out of the country.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, so you're seeing a lot of these, they're starting to go underground, which is good and bad. Um, it's bad because it's harder to track them, um, but it's good because they're not having they're not gonna have as much influence on some things because they have to lay low. Uh, I think from here, you're going to see even more escalations. Um, you're in fact, I would not be surprised if we don't see a an and some type of Antifa S fest before the end of the year. Um, I don't I wouldn't be surprised at that at all. I mean, because US, especially the transgender, they're already gonna kill themselves anyway.
SPEAKER_01:Like um that uh Air Force airman, yeah, just lit himself on fire. He he had the idea ideology of Antifa. Yeah, you know, if it was this year instead of last year or whenever it was, why not blow yourself up instead of just let yourself on fire?
SPEAKER_03:So you we all have to be more aware and hyper-vigilant about these things because especially if you live in very urban areas um and you don't have the capability of getting out of them because a lot of people don't. You know, I was looking at a thing today that there are 20% more houses for sale that have been on the market for six months than there was in 2008. Yeah, it's not good. So most people don't even have the capability to get out of some of these urban areas, and that's where you're gonna see a lot of the conflict because it's much easier to meld in anonymity into these urban areas than it is out in the more rural areas where everybody knows everybody, even the suburban areas, it it's easy to meld in because a lot of these houses, nobody talks to anybody, nobody knows their neighbors. Um, and so you're going to see this a lot more, especially now that you're seeing um the president send troops into Chicago and he's talking about sending them into Atlanta and Memphis. It's it's just gonna get worse. And it needs to happen, honestly. And I hate to see it, and I hate that we have to come down this path because the former libertarian and me like hates seeing troops on the ground. But if the cops aren't doing their job, someone needs to, um, which makes things even worse. You know, we had a um another shooting here in Alabama this past week, and you know, it's and it's not really uncommon west of 65 in Birmingham because that's a very it's mostly black area, west of 65. Um, and that's probably the most dangerous city in the entire country, honestly. Um, but it's all black on black crime um out that way. And when the police are having to beg people to stop killing each other on live TV here in the city, uh things have gotten out of control. Um, you know, but it's creeping out everywhere. It you know, anywhere there's public transportation, you're going to see it creep out into your area. Um that's why you'll see very affluent areas outside of metro areas fight against any type of rail or bus or anything come out to the area because they know it brings crime. Um just we have to be very aware of what's going on. And y'all need to, as we said in one of our first shows, keep your head on swivel and pay attention to what's going on.
SPEAKER_01:Even um, you know, even on rural rural areas like uh like where I'm at, yeah, we don't have the the crime, you know, we don't have the demographic issues, but uh a lot of small towns, small cities are dealing with budget cuts. Like the city I'm in, 1500 people, you know, has or had three officers, you know, to be able to pull round the clock coverage. Um, but due to budget cuts, they're having to cut down to one full-time officer, which means there will not be 24-7 coverage. And um people who want to break the law are gonna take advantage of stuff like that.
SPEAKER_03:And there's a um there's a really good book by William Fortune called Dave Wrath. Dave Wrath, I think that's what it's called. And he basically posits the idea of if ISIS were to actually conduct some type of attack here in the United States, and they wanted it to be uh multipolar, and they they wanted it to affect as many people as possible. And basically how they he says it would happen is you'd have multiple teams in multiple cities throughout the United States. The first thing they do is they would hit a church, or I'm sorry, hit a school, and they hit a school, but like most of the time, the training that we had when I was in the fire department was someone who's shooting up a school, as soon as they see you, they're gonna kill themselves, right? And that's what they train to. So if y'all watch any of the interviews by Sarah Adams, the thing we're most worried about is secondary and tertiary attacks. Yeah, so they attack a school, and then once they attack the school and the police show up, right, then they have another teammate come in behind the police and attack the police. Then once they get a bunch of people down, well, then they bring in the anti responders to help the people, and then they set up a V bid in the middle of all that. Well, if they do this at say three or four schools throughout the country, right? Everybody and they're just random, there's no meaning to it, and everybody's scared, everybody's locking up the highways trying to go get their kids. Yeah, right in every city of the United States. Once the highways are locked up, then you have other teams coming into the highways and just walk down the cars shooting people, just walking down the highway doing it. They're gonna have a hard time in the south because everybody's carrying, but up north, north of the Mason Dixon, it's gonna be like shooting, you know, fish in a barrel. You do that in New York. Yeah, I mean you have all kinds of casualties, and it's very low tech to do that. You don't need a lot, you just need firearms and ammunition. That's all you need.
SPEAKER_01:Well, that's something great to leave us all with. Thank you, Adrian. You're welcome. You're welcome. Uh any final words here?
SPEAKER_03:It's uh was today is the anniversary of Fatima. Yeah, miracle of the 13th. Like we've we've talked about a little bit. Um, my I think 2029 is gonna be a big year for us. So I think it's gonna ramp up to 2029. Um Maryland's not southern. Um Maryland.
SPEAKER_01:If there if Virginia is not really southern, then Maryland sure isn't.
SPEAKER_03:Now, the only state north of the Mason Dixon I could give Southern citizenship would probably West Virginia. Yeah. They're the only state that's wholly in the Appalachian region. The only state that's completely enclosed. I'd give it to them. They're honored Southerns.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, and they were part of Virginia before you know, they're the counties that split off during the Civil War, but Virginia is not Southern, man.
SPEAKER_03:Not no more. Things change, yeah. Things have altered.
SPEAKER_00:Maryland is not part of the South.
SPEAKER_03:My wife gives me a hard time because I'm from Kentucky and she's like, Kentucky's not part of the South. You're basically Indiana.
SPEAKER_00:But with bourbon, but with the best bourbon.
SPEAKER_03:All right, I really have to go. Um, but we will do this again next week. Um, and I'm gonna see if I can get uh Chivalroy Guild back on here. That'd be great. That'd be good. We want to talk some more about these uh defenders of the West we were going over.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I'll I I'll probably uh read that book before then because I've read sort of chunks, is the nice part.
SPEAKER_03:You don't have to read all at once, you read like each person that you want to read about.
SPEAKER_01:It's very good.
SPEAKER_03:Cool. All right, guys. We'll see y'all next week, everyone.
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