Guns 'N Rosaries

Insane Black Friday Gun Deals That Will Blow Your Mind

Adrian & Rob

The cranberry wars were inevitable. So were the bacon arguments. We kick off with Thanksgiving traditions that actually mean something—fresh cranberry relish that no one eats but the cook, deviled eggs with jalapeño heat, and the choice to take kids to a late-season college game when tickets, parking, and concessions sting. From there, we shift into what you came for: a clear, practical roadmap for Black Friday buys that won’t wreck your budget or your training.

We lay out a no-debt plan for ammo and gear: realistic price targets on 9mm and 5.56, why remanufactured loads aren’t worth the risk, and a minimum battery that covers most homes—a carry pistol, .22 rifle, shotgun, and AR. We talk optics you can trust without chasing Gucci, the point where diminishing returns kick in, and the smart places to spend: glass, mags, and parts that actually fail. Training gets its due too—dry fire that works with a simple zip tie, shot timers to add pressure, cardboard targets and steel on T-posts, and using a chronograph to find the load your barrel loves.

Night vision and preparedness light up the middle act. We break down PVS-14 choices (Gen 2+ vs Gen 3), IR illuminators, and what’s real vs hype on EMP effects. Suppressors are poised for a rush as tax stamp fees drop; we explain how to time a purchase before inventory vanishes and why prices should normalize later. On load-bearing, we make the case for chest rigs before plates because you’ll actually wear them, train with them, and hunt with them. Mags are consumables—PMAG Gen 3s or Lancers with metal feed lips—and a quiet, fast-adjust sling beats a fancy brand name every day of the week.

Along the way, we swap pack recommendations, what lives in our everyday kits (tourniquet, compact med, fire starters, compass), and a small trick that pays off in humid climates: silica canisters in ammo cans. The through-line is simple and steady—buy what you’ll train with, build skills that endure, and keep family and faith at the center of the season. If you’re mapping out Black Friday and want high-value gear without the debt trap, this is the guide you’ll replay.

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SPEAKER_00:

Big week for you this week.

SPEAKER_04:

It is. It's almost Thanksgiving. The greatest holiday, secular holiday we have.

SPEAKER_00:

That is true.

SPEAKER_04:

That is true. I love Thanksgiving. My kids always ask me, like, why do you like Thanksgiving so much? And like growing up, it was because of family. Like that's when all my cousins and aunts and uncles and everybody got together. Then when my granddad died, they all kind of like spread to the winds. But it's still a bit, but now I get to create those traditions myself and do the thing. So for example, for example, one of the dishes that I make that's just for me is cranberry relish. Right? I don't care if anybody not the cranberry in the in the can, right? I get I get actual cranberries and I cook them down, I put zest of an orange and orange juice in it, right? Walnut, sugar, and all that, right? I make a cranberry relish. It's great, it's fantastic. And nobody ever eats it. Everybody's like, why do you make that if nobody eats it? I make it for me. I don't care if y'all don't eat it, I'll just eat it myself.

SPEAKER_00:

It's like candy. I basically so my cousin, who is rather well off, tends to host Thanksgiving for all 51. Maybe there might be 60 of us now, something like that. Of us on my mom's side. So she sends out an email to everyone like a month before with what they're supposed to bring. And for some reason, the last five years has been like cranberries for me. So last year I did what you did. I'm you know, fresh cranberries, cook them down, you know, macerate them with sugar, put in orange juice, all that stuff. I bring it, and everyone asks why I didn't just bring canned. They all like the canned better, they all like the canned stuff better.

SPEAKER_04:

The canned stuff is horrible. I don't get I don't understand how people can eat that. That and deviled eggs. I make deviled eggs every year, and I just I'll do like two, three dozen of them. But I'll put like I put jalapenos in mine, a little bit of jalapenos, jalapeno juice, paprika, and stuff.

SPEAKER_00:

Thank you, everyone, for the birthday wishes. I Thanksgiving has always been my favorite holiday because I was born on it. Oh so for me personally, it's always been almost like a second Christmas in the in the in the secular sense where you get up, you know, get together the family, have a big meal, and then you get presents. And I eat like tomorrow because I was the only one getting presents.

SPEAKER_04:

Do you so my boy's birthday was this weekend? He turned nine. We took him to we took him to an Auburn game on Saturday. Oh, and it's I was kind of hesitant because the last few years we've gone because so with cut with the college football games, you know, to take me and my wife and all four of our kids. Like if I went to an actual good game and got good tickets, I'm dropping like 1500 bucks, right?

SPEAKER_03:

Really?

SPEAKER_04:

Like, I'm I'm not doing that. So I always take them to like one of the cupcake games where we play like Little Sisters of the Poor or something, and just break those nuts because it's like twenty dollars a ticket, so I can afford 120 bucks, I'll do that. Yeah, right. Because it's not just the tickets, like when I get down there, I'm buying like concessions, parking, concessions, parking, yeah. We were talking about this when I first got married to my wife 17 years ago, and we started going to Auburn. You're such old balls. So, but I remember parking for the games for like 10 bucks. Now, if I want a good spot, it's like 50. And that's inflation, brother. Like, that's that's just how bad it is. So, and then not only that, but I had to meet my family down there, so I had to pay parking twice. Oh no, yeah, so but you know, it was what we pay for convenience. But my boy loved it. We blew him out, thankfully, because the last few times we've gone, we haven't won, right? Uh, even for like some of the cupcake games. Like last year I took him to Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt's usually a pushover, but this quarterback Vanderbilt has this year, just has our number. He's just beaten us every in fact, he's beaten us three years in a row. He was at New Mexico State two years ago. Then he went to Vanderbilt, and he we played Vanderbilt two years in a row and he's beaten us both times. It's been it's been horrible. But this year we won. We have attrition at Auburn where we roll the trees with toilet paper when we win. It's like a big thing. The kids got to do it. You know, this person's been able to do it in a few years, so it's it's a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_00:

But I haven't I haven't been to a college football game since I went to school at Nebraska. And I went there about a decade after their last national championship. So, you know, they were it there was still a lot of excitement at that point, and you know, I was a student, so I think you got season tickets for it's either 10 or 20 bucks a game, I forget, but you know, it was it was super cheap for season tickets, didn't have to worry about parking or any of that, so you didn't have to worry about concessions because you'd go to the meal, you know, the meal hall right before and right after. That was fun, but I I can't imagine going now.

SPEAKER_04:

It's it's fun, the kids like it, and I like to go to a game later in the year when it's not so hot. Yeah, I remember one time I went, so I went with I took Mandy, my wife, and I think I don't think we were I don't think we had a kids yet, but she was pregnant, and it was in like September. September in Alabama is still hot, we're still hitting 100 degrees in September, and it was miserable. Like, I'll never take go to it if it's just me. Like, I might for now on start taking just my boy, just us go so we can get better tickets and sit lower and whatever because we were sitting nosebleed this time, which is fine because you can see the whole field, but like you're still way up. But I might start doing that, you know, taking just him and and like because he loves it. He loves every sport, he wants to know he wants to listen to podcasts all the time. So I have to be very selective on like what I listen to with him when I'm listening to this podcast because some of these guys got a mouth on them, yeah. Like, if you're not gonna hear it from dad, you're not gonna hear from the guy on the radio either.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, judging from our last episode.

SPEAKER_04:

Man, have you have you any of your kids ever blurted out a curse word?

SPEAKER_00:

Well, okay, so you want to hear a funny story. So yesterday we were driving, and my oldest Matthias, he's six. He was just uh he was buckling in and he was singing what he was doing, as children tend to do, and he got to buckled, and he wanted to find a word that rhymed with buckled. So being a six-year-old, he just chose the next letter after B and the alphabet and replaced the B and buckled with C and said cuckled. Nice, and hoping I'm my wife and I look at each other.

SPEAKER_04:

What did he what did you just say? See, that's the cardinal sin. You don't do that, you don't call attention to it, you just let it go because now you call attention to it, now they're gonna say it all the time.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah. But that was that was funny.

SPEAKER_04:

So my my oldest, she's 13, and she does she she reads a lot. She loves like Little House on the prairie. She's read a bunch of she's she's read like Hatchet and all the other books that guy wrote the other day, just like nonchalantly. She's like, Damn, what does horse crap mean? But she didn't say crap, right? I was like, like, let me just calm down here for a second. Where'd you hear that? I think it's in one of my books. I'm like, okay, so we don't use those words right here, especially as a lady. We don't use that kind of talk, but this is what it means. You know, she's like, oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00:

So you said your favorite Thanksgiving dish is the cranberries, right? Right and deviled eggs, yeah. And deviled eggs, they're a tie.

SPEAKER_04:

Like if I had to choose between the both of them, if I had to see gun to my head, cranberry sauce or deviled eggs, I would just put the cranberry sauce on the deviled eggs.

SPEAKER_00:

No, uh I mean I love I love deviled eggs, but I wouldn't consider them a Thanksgiving dish.

SPEAKER_04:

That's so there are some things I only make for holidays. Okay, you know, and deviled eggs is kind of one of those things because they're they're Easter and Thanksgiving. Easter, yeah, they're definitely an Easter dish. Yeah, Eastern things are brilliant most all the time. Like we I have a I have an old recipe from my grandparents when they came over from Germany. Oh, come on, it wasn't that bad, Hope. Really wasn't that bad. Come on, but uh, I make a cookie called a Springerly, and it's my grandmother's recipe. And it's one, it's like it's a dense cookie that you can press, it's dry and you can press an image in it.

SPEAKER_00:

Like uh is it super thin or no?

SPEAKER_04:

They can be mine aren't mine are quick. Like Krum Kaka. What is that? Did you just cuss at me?

SPEAKER_00:

Probably it's the the German version of uh what's that Italian cookie? Oh, what's that what's the Italian cookie you you and your family always made? It's just with a pea, I think. She'll she'll say it in a minute, but yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

But so like you you uh she's still going on about your cranberry sauce. But you can just so like for Christmas, I have an image of Saint Nicholas, yeah. Like you know, the actual bishop that I put on it, right? And then they're in a hotel. That's what I don't know. I've never heard of that one. But it's good, it's got like a you put Anise in it, so it's like tastes like licorice a little bit.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, yeah, that's that's exactly what Pizzel Pizzell tastes like. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Well, they call it Springer Lease, it's like an Austrian German I'm not I'm not such a fan because of the because of the Anise. My wife is not either, but and because I didn't I didn't have my grandmother's recipe for a long time, so I just found one online to make it, yeah. And I went to go visit my gr my godfather and and my aunt, and they had my grandmother's recipe, and I made that hers, and hers was a lot more muted. And those my wife actually liked it at that point.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, uh, I don't mind if it's just a little hint of it, but when it tastes like you're eating a stick of black liquor, shit. I don't need that. Yeah, yeah, it's good. Um steamed right, Paul. Paul. I'm gonna refrain from making comments right now, Paul.

SPEAKER_04:

That's one of them, one of them Slan eye dishes. Not like us round eyes. Did you ever did there was an old uh what was it? It wasn't family guy.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm not I'm not gonna lower myself to that, Paul. Indian jokes. With a daughter of feather.

SPEAKER_04:

Huh? With a daughter a feather. True. So let me ask you, do you do ham or turkey for Thanksgiving?

SPEAKER_00:

My family usually has both. My family does both, but I'm definitely more of a turkey guy. Ham just in general, I'm not a fan of usually.

SPEAKER_04:

We uh we've been doing like they we've been doing honey-baked ham lately. Do y'all have that up there?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, and I the honey baked is like one of my least favorite.

SPEAKER_04:

Really? My wife, my wife loves the turkey from them. She likes the the sugar, whatever turkey, and I like the ham. I like the ham because I can make sandwiches out of it for another couple of weeks. Because I love a good I love a good hot ham and cheese sandwich, you know, some rye, some mustard, and some Swiss.

SPEAKER_00:

It's good. No, like a hamsteak for breakfast with eggs and ash brown, that's fine. That's about all the ham I want.

SPEAKER_04:

Well, I've got that for my pigs, you know. Like I've got a bunch of ham hamstakes out in the uh in the drop freezer right now, and we just don't eat enough of it. So I've been just giving it away. We just got too much food. We just we took we sold two of our steers, processed a bull, sold him. We're down to four cows now, which is great. Um probably gonna stop milking them this week because they're due in January, February. You you really want to give them about 30 to 60 days before they calf to rest. But man, it's like my year starting to wind down, and like getting into the holidays, kind of the perfect time to do it. Yeah, no, Paul, we don't cows are too time intensive for me. It would take me uh almost a full week to do a a bull or a cow or a steer, and really to be honest with you, cows were never intended to be for a single family. Well, I know that I don't know what they're intended for, but back in the olden days, as my son told me that he's like, Dad, were you born in the late 1900s? Oh back in boy, you better watch yourself when they used to process a cow, it would be for an entire like couple of families, yeah, right to live on for like a month, right? Now we do one cow for the year for just us, it's just too much. Now I have processed my own pigs, I do process my own chickens. I just don't have the infrastructure to do a cow, like you need like a hanging space for it to age, you know, for two weeks in a freezer. And I have a walk-in freezer, I just haven't fixed yet. It was part of the property when I bought it. But I use that that's my gun room and stuff now. So I haven't needed to use it for that. So I just don't I need a gun room. It's nice. I do need one, yeah. That's what that's where I was doing the show from until my internet started getting all crazy and y'all started getting real up. That was your walk-in freezer. Well, that was the that was uh the shop where the walk-in freezer is. Okay, okay. Like one day would I'll put you on FaceTime.

SPEAKER_00:

No wonder why your Wi-Fi wasn't working in the walk-in freezer.

SPEAKER_04:

I wasn't in the walk, I was next to the walk-in freezer.

SPEAKER_00:

One big old Faraday cage, and you're like, oh, why is my Wi-Fi not working?

SPEAKER_04:

It didn't help because I was in this room last time and like the internet went out again. True, made you all awkward, you were getting all uncomfortable.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I hate yeah, I hate it.

SPEAKER_04:

How do you guys make your hands juicy and not dry? I've never had a problem with that, Brian. Yeah, same thing you do with the turkey. Yeah, you soak them for a while. It was not my where I was sitting was against the wall, so it should have been reaching to me, no problem. Yeah, and the because the freezer was on the other side of me, but it I've got you know, in fact, I just went through and took all my ammo out of the boxes and put it, put them in ammo cans. I have way more ammo than I thought I did, uh, which is good.

SPEAKER_00:

So you won't be buying any any ammo for Black Friday?

SPEAKER_04:

No, I'll probably still buy some. The prices are too good right now, man. Yeah, especially if you can get free shipping on a lot of these, man. You in fact expensive. Yeah, that's why I usually I will usually buy ammo locally instead of shipping it because by the time you put in taxes and shipping, it's the same prices locally. Not gonna have it right now, yeah. Um, but if you can find some good deals on a lot of stuff, and we'll we'll go over a lot of this here in a minute. I I sent a bunch of links to Rob and we'll we'll I'll have him put the links in the description for y'all. I don't know. Can we do that? I'm like, we don't do anything. I know we can't show prices of guns. I know that from we can't right, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

We can't show guns, yeah. Can't show guns. We don't talk about prices of guns. No, you YouTube is so gay. I I think ammo's fine.

SPEAKER_04:

I don't know, we'll find out. Well, we'll yeah, we'll see. Might be going to X only here soon. But it's right now's a good time to buy ammo. I know they this is like I usually save up for this time of year to buy the things I know I'm gonna want, you know, for like you know, guns and stuff. Like last year, this is when I bought my ACOG. I got it for like 750 bucks. That's a deal of a deal. Yeah, because they normally you're at least paying you know 950 for one, yeah. At least, and that's the lowest I've seen for even last time you moved, he's found so much ammo that he's forgotten about. I get I just I found 3,000 extra rounds of 22. I didn't know I had. Perfect. Yeah, everything it was great. And I was like, man, I I don't I don't remember buying that at all. I guess I did and just like shoved it somewhere, but I'd throw it all in cans because it was all in the boxes, and I didn't, and it's so humid down here, I don't want it like ruined the ammo.

SPEAKER_00:

I actually ordered an EOTech yesterday. So would you get uh I forgot XPS O3 or something like that's a good question.

SPEAKER_04:

Let me look real quick. The O3 is nice because a lot of them have a night vision option on them because otherwise it's way too bright for night vision. Yeah, just blinds you it'll wash you out. But like I've got an O2 on my on my 300 blackout, only because it has a dual reticle, so it's got two dots, it's got the you know, it's got the donut of death, and then the two dots, and each dot is for a different zero. So when I zero supers, it's super super so I can have one reticle for shoot so I can switch back and forth. I didn't realize like a lot of people have issues with 300 blackout, like it won't cycle both. I've never had an issue with mine. Once I got it to shoot both, and I was getting an ejection at three o'clock, I've I've been good. I haven't had any issue whatsoever, but apparently that's that's not the norm. I had no idea.

SPEAKER_00:

I guess I just looked at luck out on it. Where did I order that from? No, I'm not sure where I even ordered it from.

SPEAKER_04:

Look at some of these things we uh sent you. Primary arms always has a pre-Black Friday sale before everything starts in. Primary arms is a really good place to buy gear and ammo from. They have actually really good optics as well. Primary arms is one of the first ones to start using exclusively Japanese glass, and now everybody's trying to switch to that. And then you got a couple companies that are trying to do American glass. Vortex is trying to do American glass, they're trying to move everything to stateside. Um but primary arms has for your dollar, you're getting the best value. They still weren't like the cheapest, not like Hollow Sun. But if you want good glass, because that's the that's the part that's the most pivotal on an optic is the glass. Because that's when you'll you'll have much more closer actual true 1x with good glass. It won't have like a blue tint to it, you know, it just looks a whole lot better. But primary arms is a good spot to they usually have a lot, especially in Geisley, they usually have really good deals on anything guysly. Yeah, PSA is black month, Black Friday all year. Like you there's really no Black Friday with the PSA, it's just that's just their normal operating procedure.

SPEAKER_00:

It was the UTech 512 that I ordered.

SPEAKER_04:

Okay, the long one. Yep, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm gonna put it on the Benelli, I think. Yeah, that'd be fun. I still am so upset that that other Benelli came out.

SPEAKER_04:

No, it I've seen some people were reviewing it and they didn't like the stock. They said it felt cheap on the new one, so it feels like cheap plastic. Yeah, I'll just have to get the extended tube for the one I got. Yeah, I just have old hunting shotguns. I've never bought a tactical shotgun. Well, that's not true. I used to have a Spaz 12, I sold it, but or Spaz 12 clone, it wasn't an actual true Spaz 12. But all mine are just hunting shotguns. I've got a 10 gauge and like with like a 24-inch barrel on it. Yeah, it's apocalypse.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, at least for seven years when they all go bad. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

I've been buying a lot of rechargeable batteries lately, especially Turefiers 1, 2, 3. Because I go through 1, 2, 3 so much, so easy. That are the 1850 batteries. No, yeah, I'll buy those. I've like I'll put the 18. No, the problem with 1850s is you really shouldn't put them in night vision unless they're alkaline, because they can like fry it.

SPEAKER_00:

I have a ton of 18650s from when I used to vape.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah. From used to vape, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

I had I had I had box mod that took like three 18650s, man.

SPEAKER_04:

Golly. Yeah. Beat somebody to death with that thing. It's gotta be at least like half a pound.

SPEAKER_00:

They were big. I'm like none of them blew up in my pocket.

SPEAKER_04:

Now we had a I remember when I was in Okinawa, we had an issue with in the in the in our radio section, and they had some batteries that I guess the corrosion got to or the the humidity got to, and they got exposed to the air, and they were on fire for like five days. It took forever for them to go out. They couldn't they they we could they put like water on it for like two or three hours and didn't help, so they just let it sit there and burn it on the ramp for like five days. Have you seen the video of that the Tesla underwater and it burns for like 36 hours? No, and it's just like the water's boiling for 36 hours.

SPEAKER_00:

Wow, yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

That's what when I was in the fire department. Man, we were we were scared to death of electric vehicles, electric vehicles because you can't put them out, like the amount of water you have to put on them is I mean you can't use any other chemical. We had a foam, but you'd need so much foam, it really it was we just let them burn. Same thing with like transformers, like the ones on the poles, not the ones that shoot up schools. The they've got so much oil in them that you just let them burn.

SPEAKER_00:

No, that's that's uh yeah. That was that wow, that joke, by the way. Wow.

SPEAKER_04:

Just imagine the stuff that's caught by my filter.

SPEAKER_00:

I was gonna I was telling my wife that yes, she said something like something about sometimes she can't believe the the things that come out of my mouth. I'm like, that's the stuff that makes it through. Can you imagine? Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_04:

Southern Anthony the things that just kick around in my head. And my my wife has heard some of it, like it's it's a lot, I'm a lot better about it now since I've been out of the marines. But when I was in the Marines and like I was around other guys that were like that all the time, because the job I was in, we were all you had to be very smart to be in that job. I don't know how I got in it, but there's a lot of very witty guys, and man, the jokes we would say, like there's no such thing as racism because if you weren't being racist, you're weird, right? So that like if everything's racist, then nothing's racist, and that's exactly what it was. We jokes for days, it didn't matter, everybody was throwing them. But when I got out, and I had we had my daughter, I had to make a conscious decision not to use language like that anymore because I didn't want to hear, I didn't want her to start using it. Because sometimes I'll go to like you know, the restaurants or all you know, even like families kids, and I was here the way their kids talk.

SPEAKER_00:

Like not my my um I once had a probably four or five-year-old little child of the scholarly persuasion tell my son that he was going to beat his ass. Yep.

SPEAKER_04:

These kids gonna grow up and rob our kids.

SPEAKER_00:

No, that's why I live where I do.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah. Yeah. I'm pretty I think I'm pretty okay where I'm at. But I go into town a lot, I go into Birmingham all the time, and I usually stay in the more affluent areas, just because it's just you know where my kind of people go. But occasionally, like my my parish is in a really bad area, and we've had some issues over there, some real bad issues. We had somebody, we were there's a baptism going on one Saturday, and while the baptism was going on in the parish, not even half a block down the road, a guy was gunned down on the road, and as people were leaving the baptism, they were passing the body still on the ground because the cops haven't showed up yet. It's lovely. Yeah, imagine explaining that to your kids. But that means that's where they shove us, that's where the you know the Latin assistants have to go, you know, and it's a testament to the people who still go there, yeah. It is you know that you're gonna be in a bad part of town and you're going to be the other, and you know, you don't want to stay in there very long. That's like we we don't do things at night because it gets bad.

SPEAKER_00:

Paul, Paul, come on. The FSSB in Minneapolis is in northeast Minneapolis, it's by all the white immigrant communities. It's not north north Minneapolis, Paul.

SPEAKER_04:

So, what's been going on in the news? I've been out of it this weekend. Anything crazy happened?

SPEAKER_00:

We might be in a war with Venezuela by Thanksgiving.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, but they've been saying that for three weeks.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, but I guess they put they restricted leave for Thanksgiving.

SPEAKER_03:

That sucks.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, what else? What else are they doing? I don't know. I've seen a few things.

SPEAKER_04:

I know I saw reports that Hugo Chavez, Hugo Chavez, Maduro. Why did I say Hugo Chavez? Because he was prior to Maduro, yeah, he was, but he's dead. So Maduro was trying to negotiate getting out.

SPEAKER_00:

It's it sounds like I saw some uh some tweet that said it sounds like Cuba will if Maduro tries to escape to Cuba, Cuba is going to kill him. I mean, I I get it, they don't want none of it. I think they just don't want to be involved.

SPEAKER_04:

Well, that's like the you know, it's have you've heard of the Samson option?

SPEAKER_00:

Yes.

SPEAKER_04:

Do you know what the US government's strategy is if the Samson option is ever executed? Wipe it off the map, hopefully. We we will destroy Israel. It makes sense because that's the only thing we can do, like with to stop the rest of the world from blowing each other up. Like we have to get rid of them, and that's our that's our number one strategy if they ever pull that trigger.

SPEAKER_00:

For those of you who don't know, the Samson option is straight a military strategy by Israel, where if it looks like Israel is about to be defeated in a war, or like you know, where they uh they are afraid for the survival of Israel, in spite, they will just launch their nuclear arsenal of approximately 200 nukes at different countries and cities, trying to provoke all those countries and cities to go to war with each other. So, you know, they'll launch a missile at Moscow, at Beijing, you know, at the Middle East, just hoping that everyone unleashes a war in retaliation.

SPEAKER_04:

So for those of you that are biblically illiterate, when Samson pulled the the roof down on himself and everybody else, right?

SPEAKER_00:

That's like that's the they plan on pulling the roof down on the entire world, yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

So our our strategy is if that ever happens, we're just gonna wipe his ear off the face of the earth to stop everything else from happening, yeah. Which is but I'm starting to get skeptical of nuclear missiles, right? And it's not because of the video. What video? It's not you know, like have you seen the Joe Rogan show where they're like, Well, why you know what camera how why the camera survive? You know, or like why did the the truck disappear before it hit and and all that, you know. Have you seen those?

SPEAKER_00:

No, but I've seen I've seen people say stuff like that, and it's just yeah, that's pretty much the premise, right?

SPEAKER_04:

It's not because of those, it's because I have a hard time believing God would allow us to have that much power to make an area uninhabitable for hundreds of years. Now, do I think we're capable of really large explosives? Yes, but I'm starting to become skeptical of nuclear explosions, and this is coming from a guy who is trained in how to track radiation clouds of a nuclear explosion in the military.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, how how do you yeah, how do what about nuclear follow up from things like Chernobyl and the beginning of toll and and all that stuff?

SPEAKER_04:

I mean, so so for. Let's take the most recent example with the Fukushima reactor in Japan, right?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

I'm not saying there isn't radiation. I'm saying that I'm skeptical that there's that big of an explosion. That we're capable of doing that. Right. And some of this comes back, and this may just might be me being crazy, right? And this might be just me being because like I'm skeptical of everything now since like 2016.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

But think about like that. So if there is a threat of nuclear war, the immediate response is always, well, what if everybody else goes to nuclear war? Right? Right. Now we're at a point now where we have crazy people who because we have terror, you know, we have suicide bombers who blow themselves up. We're eventually going to have a leader who doesn't mind blowing up his own country or the risk of it by blowing someone else up, like you know, yeah, Ayatollah or whatever with Israel, right? So my skeptic, my skeptic, my inner skeptic comes out in the fact that one everything we have, all the information we have from nuclear explosions are from either the Soviets, the Israelis, or basically our 1950s, 1980s CIAs. And we can't trust any of them to tell us the truth about anything. So how do we know this isn't all propaganda?

SPEAKER_00:

I yeah. I I mean I I understand that.

SPEAKER_04:

I guess Hiroshima and Nagasaki was not a nuclear bomb.

SPEAKER_00:

What do you mean it wasn't a nuclear bomb?

SPEAKER_04:

It wasn't a nuclear bomb. But there was radiation. Is there? So why are people living there?

SPEAKER_00:

Because the I mean the half-light isn't as long as people like to get it down to livable levels isn't as crazy as people think it is.

SPEAKER_04:

I I think people were living there within like five years.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, yeah, and they're I mean, we do know of elevated cancer rates.

SPEAKER_04:

That's just seed oils. That's just seed oils. Japanese people love seed oils.

SPEAKER_00:

Japanese seed oils.

SPEAKER_04:

Really? Look, I'm not saying I've got this all thought out, but things aren't things aren't squaring up.

SPEAKER_00:

I I would not be surprised if the the the hype and propaganda surrounding it wasn't these are the overhyped basically.

SPEAKER_04:

These are the same people who got building tunnels in New York City and scurrying out of them like rats. Okay, so all the same people. Oppenheimer, Einstein, all from the same cloth. Just saying. Look, if we're gonna question the moon landing, I'm gonna start questioning nuclear missiles.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm thinking like nuclear winter probably is just hype, you know what I mean? Like, I don't think I don't think a full exchange of nuclear weapons would end in a nuclear winter that would wipe out humanity. I think that's probably nonsense. But so even if we accept the the narrative that we're the jokes, is that this is the level level of logical discourse I come here for.

SPEAKER_04:

So even if we accept the narrative as we've been told and the science that we've supposedly been passing on, right? It would take a dozen nuclear missiles to take out New York City. Like a nuclear explosion does not cover that much area, not the ones we have, anyway. Like the Soviets supposedly, you know, were building some very large megaton missiles. They like they want one that built the big area, yeah. But ours, we we did much smaller warheads, but much more warheads in a missile.

SPEAKER_00:

So we have we we tested big ones, like my my six-year-old actually knows this by heart. There was what Ivy Mike and then Castle Bravo, and Castle Bravo. I forget how big that was like 20 megatons. I mean, that's definitely a like a city buster for New York City, but you're right. Like at this point, the the nuclear arsenal we have. Our our our strategy uh, you know, was smaller, smaller warheads, but much more accurate. We're we're not trying to wipe moss.

SPEAKER_04:

We wanted to hit the bomb to take out a county, right?

SPEAKER_00:

We wanted a bomb to hit you know the the the bunker for the Politburo and to hit you know the the the submarine base they have under a mountain and stuff like that. That's what we wanted to do. They couldn't be that accurate, so they needed them big. Yeah. What is this?

SPEAKER_04:

Watching the czarbomb video.

SPEAKER_00:

The czar bomba is the was the Russia's largest test. Is that what they called it? Yeah, Czar Bomba. I think that I think it tested at 50 megatons, and they had plans for one that could have been 100 megatons, but they never tested it.

SPEAKER_04:

That that's the issue with it with them trying to go so large, is because it takes it. You if something goes wrong, well then you've lost a lot of capability, yeah. Whereas if you have 50 warheads at two megatons each, instead one of them goes bad, well, you still got 48 megatons.

SPEAKER_00:

They never tested the the larger czar bomba because at the time in the 50s, the only delivery methods they had were bombers, and they had no bomber nearly fast enough that would not just be vaporized, so they never decided to build it.

SPEAKER_04:

They just needed a couple of very motivated comrades to just take one for the team and see how it goes.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, you know, you are I am kind of surprised that Russia was like, no, no, we can't let them vaporize themselves with a bomb. It just doesn't sound like right. Yeah, don't tell no, you're fast enough, don't worry about it.

SPEAKER_04:

You're dropping off humanitarian aid and then just like Mosey on out of there, you know, just and then just give them give their family an award when they come home. Easy. So that's that's my my uh conspiracy theory I've been diving down lately. I just have a hard time believing that God would allow us to have that power. Because that's like irrevocable damage.

SPEAKER_00:

If everything is true that we've been told, they barely kept what from actually being nuclear.

SPEAKER_04:

Maybe she's behind and we're talking about Nagiaki. I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_00:

If we want to talk nuclear weapons, I'll go get my six-year-old. He loves it.

SPEAKER_04:

He'll tell us all look, and then we'll start talking about dinosaurs. I'll get my nine-year-old, it'd be crazy.

SPEAKER_00:

And then we'll have to talk about now. Did nuclear weapon did God use nuclear weapons to knock out the dinosaurs? Man, well, so no, no, because it was the Nephilim trick question.

SPEAKER_04:

It wasn't that's true, it was a Nephilim. So my theory about Nephilim is all basketball players are Nephilim bastards. All of them, anybody over six foot six, Nephilim bastard. Okay, makes sense. I can't because we're I can't disprove like we're reaching people with like seven and a half feet at this point, right? Like there's uh the players the tall Chinese guy, Yao Ming.

SPEAKER_00:

Yao Ming, he's like seven two, seven, three. That's just not right.

SPEAKER_04:

It's not the human body's not meant for that. It's not you would think his the weight of him, but you know what? Like seven two, seven, three, you've got to be at least 300 pounds, at least. They're loving this, but think about it. Being tall is a handicap, right? How many how many vehicles do they make for tall people? Shaquille O'Neal has to take the front seat out of his car to and sit in the back seat. That's a handicap. When you've got to have a car altered to fit you, you're handicapped.

SPEAKER_00:

Being being being a rich, tall basketball player must be hell on earth. You can buy a Lamborghini, but you'll never be able to drive it.

SPEAKER_04:

Never. They have to stretch that thing out. You got paid twice as much just to make that thing drivable. Imagine, like trying to find shoes.

SPEAKER_00:

Like, imagine the world goes to whoa, whoa, whoa, why are we trying to find the Jews?

SPEAKER_04:

Or shoes.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, okay. Okay, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_04:

So if you've got like a size 20 foot, right, and you run out of your one pair of boots in the apocalypse, you don't you're just gonna you're gonna be running around like a hobbit for the rest of your life.

SPEAKER_00:

Plus, you're such a large target.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh yeah, oh yeah, and they always in the in the in the marines, they always had the tall guys in like the short man positions, right? So, like in in a LAR, light armor reconnaissance vehicle, the LAV, whatever, they always had guys over six foot as the driver, and because how as the driver, only his head's supposed to be out, but a guy who's over, like it's chest up every time. Man, I don't know why they did that. But imagine, like, imagine all the stuff that you have to put. You can't walk through normal doors if you're over like seven feet, you have to duck down, you know. It's a handicap. They're Nephilim bastards, I'm telling you.

SPEAKER_00:

So, what was Andre the Giant?

SPEAKER_04:

He was the first Nephilim bastard in the last, but they finally, after they got the tomb of Gilgamesh, right, from Iraq, and they perform before that. They created they yeah, he's a test tube baby, and they created Andre the Giant, right? And then they had to lose it, right? Because they people started coming out, you know, figuring out what they were doing. So they sent it back to Iraq. So when we went back in 2003, I mean this this is part of the WikiLeaks emails, by the way. We went in. The first thing we did when we went to Iraq, we went for the for the tomb of Gilgamesh. This is like open source. You can find this right now.

SPEAKER_00:

It's like that that mountain that in Romania they they dug a huge hole under. Uh what is it, Zaracina or something like that, looking for the same sort of thing they found in the tomb of Gilgamesh. There's some weird, weird conspiracy rabbit hole, guys.

SPEAKER_04:

I tell it's my my mother-in-law is like she's real big into a lot of these conspiracy theories. She's a smart lady, she just likes conspiracy theories.

SPEAKER_00:

I think they're fun stories, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_04:

Like one of the ones that she likes is that they keep we keep finding bones of giants, yeah. And and people come in and take them real quick, so nobody will ever know that they were giants. Now her version of it is the Vatican doing it, right?

SPEAKER_00:

Getting rid of the bones because she's Protestant, so Protestant, of course, those damn Jesuits. I love when Adrian makes Rob reconsider whether Anthony is his craziest friend. I'll tell you which one of them sends me the crazier Instagrams.

SPEAKER_04:

That's not me.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, sure.

SPEAKER_04:

Look, like old James Lindsay, I don't understand it, but every third reel I got on Instagram is racist. I don't know why that is.

SPEAKER_00:

I can't go more than three videos without the music being either Kanye's latest, Erica, the uh the the one with all the agartha memes.

SPEAKER_04:

I've never really seen those. I see them a couple. I saw like the white monster one where they're taking the white monster down to Agartha. I've seen that. The rest of them I haven't really seen. Show them to me. I want to see them. Oh, okay. Okay. Y'all have no idea. I have a lot of gypsy crusader come up on mine a lot, too. Those are fun. Especially he he makes notice of the urban crickets. I like that between between that and midgets, like I can't control myself laughing sometimes. Like, I love the midget videos where they jump in the water and makes like a bloop sound, you know. I'll I'll lose it every time.

SPEAKER_00:

We're 45 minutes into this and haven't talked about deals yet.

SPEAKER_04:

No, we haven't. We haven't. All right, let's get to that. All right, so I sent some links to Rob on a bunch of this stuff. So some really good sites to go to.

SPEAKER_00:

Breach Bane Clear usually has really good in the middle of all these links is that one meme. Oh, yeah. Can you show that? Yeah, give me a pull that up.

SPEAKER_04:

Uh I sent it to my wife too, because she knows.

SPEAKER_00:

Where is it? Oh here we go. Okay, so yeah, Adrian was sending me links, so I get like link to gun deals, link to gun deals, link to gun deals, and then I don't know where I get this. Right before getting more links to gun deals.

SPEAKER_04:

That's not 100% true.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, he's been sitting there like that making his cranberry relish.

SPEAKER_04:

You gotta have the apron on. You don't want that stuff splattered on you to hurt. I bet it makes a bacon.

SPEAKER_00:

I was gonna say, I think I've told you this before. Somehow, every time I make bacon, I'm shirtless. Every time, and it's I get I get splash bit in it. I'm like, why did I put a shirt on?

SPEAKER_04:

I've got to the point now where I make I only make bacon on my black stone, not on the back porch. Because I can do like a whole pack at once, yeah. Oh yeah, and it's much better. But it's it's my like it's my bacon for my pigs, and so it's very fatty in a lot of portions of it, the way that we cut it. But yeah, that blackstone man, that and pancakes, it's a lifesaver. Fried rice. No, we don't do bacon in the oven, you heathen. No, it is actually really easy, though. It is easy, but it doesn't get a good crisp to it. Yeah, it does. No, it doesn't. Yes, it does. No, then you're overcooking your bacon in the oven, then it's burnt. No, I'm not. There's no way to accurately judge like a good crispiness, like you have to be able to pick it up. Okay, this is good, take it off. Do it in the oven, and they're all being baked at the same time. You can't give individual attention to each piece of bacon like you should.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm telling you, I can get a pack of bacon perfect in the oven. No, easy blasphemy. Okay, what which one of these sites do you want to get?

SPEAKER_04:

Let's do uh let's do breach pain clear. We're gonna have to be careful with this, though, because there's a lot of cost.

SPEAKER_02:

So a couple of things.

SPEAKER_04:

One, there's a lot of really good deals on ammo right now. So, what you should be looking for is if you want nine millimeter, you really don't need to be paying more than 25 cents a round at all. And 25 cents around is if you're getting free shipping. You there's places on there where you can find it as low as 21, 20 cents, but you got to be careful in some of the brands. I don't do remanufactured ammo anymore, I've had too many issues with it, and it's just not worth the cost savings because then because I've had more squibs with remanufactured ammo than I have anything else, and I'm not willing to blow up my gun to save myself two or three dollars. It's not worth it. There's just not some guys love it, some guys swear by it, but I've had too many issues and I just won't use it anymore. And I used to buy it exclusively because I was poor, and that's the only ammo I could really afford to buy in bulk because I could buy like a thousand rounds for like a 200 bucks back in the day, anyway. But ammo, you know, nine millimeter, I wouldn't pay any more than 25 cents around 556. I'm seeing it really consistently for like 40 cents or less around. I saw 32 cents around the other day. I think it was federal. Federal one in our telegram group, we've got a guy who deals with firearms for a living, we'll say. He was posting apparently, was it federal or winchester? Was having is having the rebate on ammo. Oh if you go on our telegram, you'll see it in our deals section on the telegram. But let me see if I can pull it up. But one of these companies is giving a really good rebate, and it gets your cost down significantly.

SPEAKER_00:

Federal is also one of the best things to come out of Minnesota.

SPEAKER_04:

Uh let's see what else was in there. Oh, yeah. So no, here's Winchester too.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, they're having Winchester way.

SPEAKER_04:

On Bass Pro. They're having a deal. You can get a box of 20, 556, M193, or eight, or M855 for about three 32, 33 cents each. That's amazing. You should jump on that if you can. Buy it now because 7 bucks a box. Yeah, yeah, it's 678 after the rebate. Nice for a box of 20, which is a really good, really good deal. Now's the best time to buy ammo. The issue with that was had we were having last year with ammo was the Biden EPA regulations on lead and lead and manufacturing, like all the basically the products that we needed to make bullets and and gunpowder and everything was being heavily restricted by the EPA, so it was making it a lot more expensive. On top of that, we had a couple of primer factories go down for long experience long periods of time, long extended periods of time. Now, PSA built out their AAC primer factory, so they're pumping out primers, but the problem with that is because they're trying to get them out fast, they've had some issues with them. They're hard strikes or their soft strikes, or they're just not going off, you know, not all of them, but you're getting you know one or two in a box, maybe. They might, you know, I have some of an issue where it just might not fire or whatever, right? But it's gotten better since then, since they've been able to you know really slow it down and take their time with it now. They didn't have to pump them out real fast because PSA's whole idea is they want to put out affordable quality-ish firearms and ammunition to make it ubiquitous for everyone to be able to have access to it. That way it all becomes common use.

SPEAKER_00:

Yep.

SPEAKER_04:

That is the that is the language and the law that is why we keep winning all these cases when it comes to gun regulations, is because if it's in common use, it can't be restricted. So they're trying to make it cheap and everybody to have so for that common use. You look like you're about to say something very profound.

SPEAKER_00:

No, no, okay, no, short week, my brain's hardly working.

SPEAKER_04:

Yep. So, ammo, if you can get it right now. By you know, and let me preface this all with this first. Do not go into debt for any of this. There, there is no reason to put any of this on that credit card or to take out any type of loan or payment installation or anything. If you can't afford to buy it at once, at one time, do not buy it. It is not worth subjecting yourself to usury to buy this stuff.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_04:

Buy it and buy smaller amounts then. Right? You just get your dollar cost average is gonna be higher because you can have to buy more of it later when it's when the price is higher. That's fine. I'd rather you do that than go into debt for any of this. Do not do any of that. As far as firearms, everyone's got a deal right now. My suggestion on the minimum firearms you should have: you should have a nine millimeter pistol, you should have a 22 rifle, you should have a shotgun, and you should have an AR. That would be my minimum. If once you get to those, then you can start branching out if you want to doing fun stuff like 357 magnums and 8.6 PRC, whatever, right? But get those first because you can use you know, your nine million, you're gonna carry every day for protection. Your 22, you can use for planking, or you can use it for hunting, small game, and even you need you can hit the you shoot a deer in the head with 22, it's gonna kill it every time. Your shotgun is going to be for some self-defense as well as hunting, and then your AR is for self-defense and hunting if you want to buy the ammo for it, yeah. All that right, but a lot of it's multi-use, but that would be my I would get those first before you go into anything else, and I would start with a pistol first because you're gonna use it, yeah, right, and then you know I would go to the 22 because then you could because the twin this the fundamentals in the 22 will transfer to the shotgun and they are right, and 22 ammo is so cheap, you can get it for six cents a round. You buy a thousand rounds for 60 bucks, right? That's super cheap. Now it's dirty, so you got to clean your your rifle more often, but you can shoot all day, right, and not worry about it.

SPEAKER_00:

And if you if if you're unfamiliar with guns and you get a 22 and it seems like it's unreliable, that's just 22 guys.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, and it's it's more the ammo than it is the firearm, the red fire ammo because it's so cheap, there's just really not a lot of quality control to it. Let's see. I'm trying to look through these deals to see if anything that popped out to me. Dirty, if y'all ever watched Dirty Civilian, they did a really good video this weekend on gift ideas for men for Christmas. They had some really good some things in there I'd never even seen before. A lot of it's just kind of you know newer stuff. They're letting guys know that that's out there, and some stuff that you might not think of. But they've done one the last three years, and they've all been good. Last year, they you know, Canada Provisions was doing a lot. Last year coming out with new products. One of them was it was called an H2GO, and it basically you use salt and and chlorine, water, I can't remember what it is. Anyway, you know, it makes chlorine with just salt and water, and you can purify up to like a you know, I think I think 25 liters at a time, I think, uh, with it. So I bought it last year and I played around a little bit with it, and it does a great job, you know, but some things like that, you know, branch out to people who whose opinion you respect and kind of see what they're doing. Because there is a law of diminishing returns on a lot of things, right? So, for instance, I'll give you an example with flashlights. Once you start getting past like 200 bucks, you're really paying a premium for like a 1% increase, yeah. Right, you and like surefire makes a great flashlight, don't get me wrong, but you can get pretty much the same exact flashlight through streamlight for half the price, right? How does it be close? Yeah, streamlight's good. I have streamlight on all my carry optic uh pistols. I have a streamlight on it. I don't have a surefire on anything other than one of my rifles, and it's an old surefire scout I got issued in the Marines. It just because one, I have a lot of rifles I have to put lights on, and I'm not buying a 500 light for 500 light for every single one of them. Yeah, but two, my surefire has broken just as much as my streamlight has, and it's a lot cheaper to replace my streamlight than it is to replace my surefire. So you're just you gotta worry about diminishing returns. You don't want to pay a whole lot more for a 1% increase. There is a such thing as good enough when it comes to firearms, right?

SPEAKER_00:

Uh on ERs, where do you think that diminishing return level is?

SPEAKER_04:

I think I think PSA is the gold standard for budget firearms, right? You're it's not gonna be the best, right? And you're gonna need to start replacing some things after a couple thousand rounds. But for most people who don't have the time or the capability to go to the range a lot, and they might only shoot two or three hundred rounds a year, that PSA is gonna last them 10 years before that drive. Right. If you're doing you know just when you can, now if you want to get if you're wanting to get a lot more active in it, then I would you know go up to like the saber line when it comes to PSA, or I would you know look at like BCM or something, but um like the MP Sport is a great deal, uh it's very reliable, but I would stay away from was it Bear Creek Arsenal?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, they they have they're not any cheaper than PSA, and they're they're not, and their quality is so much worse.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, you're looking at like a three to four MOA rifle, which is not good, like it's it's good enough for the military, but like I I get the biggest insult you can tell me is my firearms are military grade. No, they're not, they're way better.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I mean, right now you can get a BCM upper. I think I was seeing them for less than 700 and get a PSA lower for 100. Yep, you know, for 800 bucks, you got a great rifle.

SPEAKER_04:

The lower it has a whole lot more room for error than the upper does. Now, school of what is it, school of school of riflemen? School of he does the armor videos on Facebook, he would disagree, right? But all he does is look at it's quality control issues. He like he doesn't so he sees it all the time, right? He sees the the difference, but I've never heard of anybody having issues with a lower, it's right. So if you you can you can buy a you know a cheaper 100, 150 lower with the butt stock and everything in it, and and then upgrade the trigger if you want to to a guysly two stage, right? And then just you could just interchange it with your upper. You could buy a 300 blackout upper, you could buy a you know 14.5 inch, you know, pin and welded BCM upper, or like my 12 and a half inch is a uh Sons of Liberty Gunworks upper on a BCM lower.

SPEAKER_00:

You see, they just got the SOCOM contract.

SPEAKER_04:

Yep, that Mark I looks like a really nice rifle. The my the accuracy on my Sons of Liberty is the reason I bought it. I it loves 69 grain 556. Like I'm getting like half an MOA and on a 12 and a half inch, which is insane. I should not be getting it, and I'm not that good of a shooter, so but I was getting that. Yeah, do you don't need to buy a CAC? I sort of stay away from if you to be honest with you, the average person, if you're spending more than$1,500 to$1,700 on a rifle, you're paying too much. Like you're not gonna get you're not good enough to own a rifle like that. Now, maybe later on, after you shot a five, six, that seven thousand rounds out of your PSA that you paid$800 for, maybe you can upgrade to something that's more like$2,000, like a guysly super duty, yeah. Um, but you're just not gonna get your money out of it.

SPEAKER_00:

And and even then, it's above$1,500, it's not so much like you know, improvements in like capability, it's more reliability with you know in higher round counts. Like if you're not shooting that you know tens of thousands of rounds a year, it's not gonna matter too much.

SPEAKER_04:

You you're better off to pay$800 for a PSA and spend$700 on ammo than to buy a$1,500 rifle and only have$100 left for ammo. You're gonna get a whole lot better use out of that PSA. You're just gonna get a whole lot more training out of it. And I've seen some guys go to some of these two-gun and three-gun matches, and they have a PSA and they're and they've just learned how to shoot it really well, and they do pretty good. Then they're not winning, right? But now they're at a point where they can start buying something that's a little bit more Gucci and do a whole lot better because they've put the time in. I'm more scared of a guy who is who has a Bear Creek Arsenal that shot 5,000 rounds out of it than I am of a guy who has a BCM that's barely shot 100 rounds out of it. True. Let's see, going down these lists. Just a lot of deals on ammo. There's a lot about their Palomio States Army. Like there's 75 grain. A lot of people swear by it because it uses OTM and they've really done a lot better. 75 grain, you really. So when it comes to the grain of a bullet, you've really got to see what your rifle likes. If you have a like 55 grain is training ammo, unless you have a 20-inch barrel, now it's duty ammo. Right? 20-inch barrel is gonna put phenomenal ballistics on a 55 grain bullet. But more most likely your 55 grain is gonna be it's cheapest. You're gonna shoot with it, and you're gonna train with it. You start getting into like 62, 69, 72, 75, 77, that the heavier the bullet, pretty much. You're gonna need a higher twist rate as you get to a higher weighted bullet. But you just need to figure out what your your rifle likes. Like my 12 and a half inch Sons of Liberty Gunworks, it loves 69 grain. 72 is okay, 75 is fine, but man, it just like 69 is a sweet spot on it, and it's superiorly accurate, and it's really unfortunate that that's the weighted bullet it likes. One because it's hard to find, but I keep having nine. So, but that's what it likes. But then my 16-inch Patriot Ordnance factory, it loves everything, it shoots everything equally well, right? But nothing fantastic, but everything equally well. So it's just a matter of you have to figure out what you're doing. And the way you do that is you need to get chronograph. Garmin makes a really good one, right? So you want to see what kind of you want to see what kind of velocity you're getting out of your your round, and then you want to see what kind of groups you get with it, and see what your rifle likes. And you have to shop around to different types of ammo, too, different manufacturers, you know, because sometimes your bullet's just gonna your your rifle is just gonna like some bullets better than others. Let's see what else was in here. I was looking at do you have you ever shot a mantis?

SPEAKER_00:

Like the the dry fire? Yeah, uh I haven't.

SPEAKER_04:

I've got a few guys who like it. The one I've I liked was called Cool Fire. I think it was called Cool Fire. And what it does is it you swap out your barrel with a cool-fire barrel, and it is CO2 injected. So when you fire your round, like it it is fully actuated, moves the slide and everything, and so it's like you're actually getting a recoil on it when you shoot. And you can they made it now with their the barrel has a laser. Let me see if I pull it up, but and so now you can like target practice with it. Cool fire trainer. Yeah, there it is. Let's see. Yeah, so yeah, it has a little CO2. They have make them for rifles now, too. It has a little laser on it. So yeah, it's uh coolfire trainer.com is the website, and it's really good you know for dry fire, but you don't need anything like that to dry fire, it's just it can make it more fun, you know, especially if you do it a lot. Yeah, the the bet that is Joe's saying here, he said, I've tried a lot of the dry fire supplemental tools, I don't find that necessary, they're not, they just they can be fun. Recommend people save money. So yeah, the best thing you can do, especially on a Glock, is just get a zip tie, and you put the zip tie up through the barrel so it blocks the firing pin, and you can pull the trigger forever. You don't have to worry about it. You cost yourself like a nickel to do that. Man, this is fun, like it just makes things more fun, right? But like I said, you don't need it. Joe said, you don't need it, you can just dry fire, you can just do things, man. Just do them, right? Just if you're sitting there and you're watching TV and none of the kids are around, you won't worry about flagging anybody, and you just want to get used to presenting and shooting and just do it over and over, right? Just make sure you're getting a good sight picture every single time, right? And just practice. That's what I do when I'm at my office and I've got no clients or anything coming in for a while, and I'll just I've got a little sticker on behind my door, and it's just like a little silhouette, and I'll just sit there and present over and over and over.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, primary arm says the uh surefire X300 for 220 bucks. Nice, that's almost 100 bucks off.

SPEAKER_04:

This is streaming was saying you do need to get a timer, you need to introduce stress into your into your training, right? Which is what we're gonna do with the next competition in December. We didn't do one in November, we'll do one in December. And we'll tonight I'll tell y'all who one October's tonight. But you need to introduce some stress, and the timer will do that. I have the what is it? The what's the what is it called? Pull it up. Pasco timer, is that what it is? What's it called? I'm trying to figure out which one I have. It's got like the green button on it or whatever. Can't remember the name of it. It's okay. You pay about 100-150 bucks for them.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh the SG timer 2. Yeah, that's that's a blocky one. Uh yeah, kind of.

SPEAKER_04:

What is that one? Uh I have. My only my only gripe with it is it's it's not very intuitive to use. None of them are. It's it's just really like it's a lot of pressing the same button over and over to like get to where you want it to go.

SPEAKER_00:

Gunner is it passes pack three? Is that what you got? Is it pack three? I don't know. Yeah, good gunner. I that's the one I guess G timer 2. That's the one I've got. The pack club timer three. Yeah, green button.

SPEAKER_04:

And so, like, I don't for example, my my draw from conceal and hitting A zone, I'm consistently like at a second and a half. Like it when I if I haven't been shooting a while, I'm at two, and then after doing it for about 10 minutes, I'm down to a second and a half, which is I'm good with that. Like, I don't need to be a subsecond that like you're putting a whole lot of time in to get below subsecond. My favorite though is seeing guys wearing a gun belt and timing it that way. I'm like, brother, you're not gonna be wearing a gun belt when you're out in town. You need to be drawn from concealment. That's where you need the time. Well, unless you're doing competitions, then yeah, use a gun belt. But yeah, there's a lot, there's a lot of them out there. There's a lot of ammo deals out there. We'll post the links to these lists that I sent. These are the ones I look at every year, and really, you know, to be honest with you, we probably should have done this show like a month or two ago to kind of get y'all ready for this so y'all can start saving money up for things that you want to buy and get a better deal on Black Friday, some of these bigger purchases. Like RMA just put out some new level four armor that's only like five, five and a half pounds of plate. That's phenomenal for like 300 bucks. Like this, that is that is industry-changing products, there. You know, some of these things. I I just wear a stiff leather belt, Paul. I tried using the next belt, but the issue with the next belt is in the back, it bends in and eventually cracks, so now it's just like you know, it doesn't have the stiffness, which I don't really need the stiffness in the back, but it looks bad when you're wearing it, and so I just use a stiff leather belt. Like, I've actually all my belts are Amish belts, like all my you know, they're made by the Amish, and I just use those all the time. Um and they're they're perfectly fine.

SPEAKER_00:

I use uh core core belt, which I think is it's like it's like the next style, but yeah, I've never had them crack, so the agonic, I think it's called Agonic LC, I think maybe.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, agonic has makes a concealed carry belt, and that's the next one I want to try, but it's my issue is I have to have multiple belts because I have to dress up for work, so I wear like a button-down shirt and everything for work, and I can't be wearing everyday carry belts when I go to work, so I've got to have something nice. So that's why I wear a lot of leather belts, and they're interchangeable. I can wear them for work and I can wear them, you know, just when I'm out. But Agonic has a belt where it has like little shims that go in the belt. So if you just want a rigid portion just where you have carry, that's the only part that's rigid, the rest of it's kind of elastic. Look, I'm a big fan of suspenders, right? Especially, but the problem is with suspenders, you have to have the right kind of pants.

SPEAKER_00:

You do, or you you yeah, you have to have the right pants or right suspenders for the pants, exactly.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, they have to have I can't remember what's called, but it's a specific button. Like you don't want the the alligator clamp suspenders because they'll tear your pants, they'll rip your pants.

SPEAKER_00:

Duluth trading company, they're a semi-local company, but they do ship wherever they have suspenders that have that will hook to your belt.

SPEAKER_04:

Well, does it loop around the belt?

SPEAKER_00:

Not really, no. It's like I could see if it was like a loop around the belt. It it's like a hook that the belt fits into, yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

But then you're wearing a belt and suspenders, like it's well, you yeah, but we're wearing gun belts, anyways. Yeah, but like if you wear your belt tight enough, you don't you know you don't need suspenders. At that point, it's just like you're doing suspenders because they look good.

SPEAKER_00:

No, because suspenders do look good. Because if I if I have if I have like not a full size, but if I have like my uh 226 on my melt, like it pulls the belt down a fair amount, so the suspenders help. Is that because you don't have a butt? Uh I will leave that for others to decide.

SPEAKER_04:

Hope does he not have a butt? Is that what the issue is? He's got he's uh suffering from a case of no acetol. Gotta do some squats, man. Get that butt gain on. Get that bubble butt. Give them pants up. I mean, I carry my see, see, I knew it. I knew it. Thanks, hope. Betrayed by my wife on the seen from a mile away. So I carry my my CZ Shadow Combat a lot, and it's and to be honest, it's not that heavy, like it's only about five ounces heavier than my Glock 19. Yeah, so everybody's like, it's so heavy. No, it's not, it's five ounces more, which isn't a lot, but that one does weigh it down a little bit. So like I have to wear my bite my belt a little tighter.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Because I would so my holsters, I've got the the metal clips on them, so so I can take them out real easy if I want to. Like, if I I usually carry a penal, so when I get in the car, I'll take it off and I'll shove it between the seat and the console, right? So it's it's act I can get to it real quick if I need to, but then when I get out, I put it back on. But when I'm going to mass and I'm wearing my CZ Shadow Compact, I have to keep it at the three and a half, four o'clock and just leave it there because I it I have to keep my belt so tight because it is a little heavier that I can't, it's too hard to take in and out. Yeah. Um, but so I might would have the problem with that is like you can't really carry with suspenders unless your suspenders have a holster in them. Or you're wearing carry a belt too. Yeah, then that's defeating the purpose of the suspenders. Like, what are we doing here? Like, this is this is usually two is one and one is nine, but not when it comes to belts and suspenders. That's too much. That's like wearing socks with sandals. We're not doing it, right? Just go ahead and get rid of it. Exactly. I hate micro pistols, yeah. Hate them. I don't understand you do, I don't care who you are, you do not shoot as well with a micro as you do with a compact or a subcompact.

SPEAKER_00:

Then they're just a pain to shoot.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, they're horrible. You're super inaccurate. You don't the capacity's not as much, right? Like, why would I why are we doing this? Like, are we taking this seriously? No, we're not because you're carrying the toy. Do I reload? I reload all the time, especially at the range. You know, I carry an extra mag, yes.

SPEAKER_00:

I think he's wondering if we reload, like hand load.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh, like ammo? Like, do I load my own ammo? No, it's not the only the only reason I would do it is is it for my 6-5 creed more to get the load how I want it, but at this point, it's not cost effective whatsoever. It's way cheaper to just buy manufactured ammo. Let's see, look at all right, so chest rigs, havoc 2-1 on X. If y'all don't follow him, you should. He's been a special guest on Dirty Civilian a lot lately. Spiritus is having almost a 50% off on some of their gear. So then the the question is like, what do you do, what kind of chest rig do you get? I would just get one that you like for now, or just something quick and easy to get into. Like you can do a micro chest rig that just carries three mags in it, and just leave it that until you figure out what you like. And then you know, you can always add on to it. Like my my chest rig, I've got the one I use mostly right now is a micro chest rig. It's a placard from X Umbrush Designs, and it holds three mags, and then have two wings on the sides that has two GP pouches. Yeah, so this this is a split rig, so you can see how it buckles in the in the middle. He's got GP pouches on the sides, he's got the spiritus spud, whatever they are. Stupid name they call those mag holders. You got GP pouches got the H harness in the back. Split rigs are starting to come back, they'll go out of style here in a couple years, like everything does in the tactical world. But just get something you like to wear, something that's easy to put. Split rigs are nice because they're easy. It's like putting on a jacket. You know, you put it over your arms, you clip it together in the middle. If you want to lay down and go prone, it's a whole lot easier to unbuckle and do it. You can carry a lot more weight on it. We're almost getting to the days of just carrying LBEs again, a load-bearing equipment, like what we got issued in the military. We're almost right back there wearing the vest, you know, like Black Hawk vests. I'm I wouldn't doubt if we're gonna start seeing those here again soon. But everything's in cycles in the in the gun world. But I would buy a chest rig before I would ever buy plates. I would buy a chest rig before I ever bought a plate carrier. You're going to use the chest rig a whole lot more than you will ever wear. You will not like wearing plates. I used to wear them every day during deployments, and that was the first, it was like it plate carriers are like bras for dudes. I can't wait to get it off as soon as I got inside. Right? As soon as I got into wire, I'm taking that thing off. Getting that because it's like 30 pounds. Like, get this thing off me. And it's all sweaty and nasty because you're because it just doesn't breathe whatsoever. Right, so you're just sweating through it. But a chest rig, you could you can work do you use it for hunting, right? You can use it for you know, LARPing with your friends. Like, I would buy a chest rig before you buy anything else. And some of them you can just buy medally rate, readily made, and it has everything you need. Shield Arms has a side company called Mountain Partisan, and they make a ready-made chest rig kit basically. You just buy it and you're good to go. You're gonna pay it a few hundred bucks for it, right? But it's gonna have everything you need. You don't have to buy anything, you don't have to figure it out, it's ready to go.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I bought one from Onward Research that was like that, it's all set up, ready to go, which is nice because I know nothing about them. Well, that's uh Grant Thumbs company, isn't it?

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, yeah. As I was telling my son today, PP time is not always poo-poo time, but poo-poo time is always pee pee time.

SPEAKER_00:

We were yesterday we went out to eat kind of for my birthday, and my four-year-old Iggy has the most impeccable timing when it comes to needing to go poop. It's always when you it's always the worst timing in the world, right? Whenever you don't want him to go poop, he needs to go poop. So we're at the restaurant and he needs to go. And of course, my six-year-old comes with us because I guess why not? So we're in there waiting for him, and he goes pretty quick. And Maddie, the six-year-old, goes, Hey dad, you know when we're do something, when we're doing something fun, like going out to eat, Iggy poops really quick. But when we're in the middle of the rosary and Iggy has to poop, it's like half an hour. I'm like, Yeah, I noticed that too.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, yeah. It's like me, you know, like when I'm like on a Saturday when we got a bunch of stuff we've done all day and I just want to relax. It's amazing how fast I need to go use restroom. And then I'm gone for like half an hour. And now, like my kids are older, so I don't like see the fingers under the door anymore. Like, daddy, daddy, you know, but I used to, man, like see those little, it's like a horror story, like child's play. Man, I mean, we'll pray for your grandp's, but wait to bring the mood down. My uh so my mom, let's let's just bring this all the way down. My mom has dementia, she's had it since she was 65, and her brother has it, and her grandmother had it. Yeah, and I'm concerned that I might get it. It sounds genetic, right? My concern for me is because of what I've seen in my life and the trauma I've gone through. If I end up getting some type of cognitive issue, dementia, Alzheimer's, whatever, I have a very high capacity for being violent. Because I'm scared, don't know where I'm at, don't know what's going on, and a lot of means at your disposal. Yes, right. Uh, because I've seen it, like you know, in fact, you know, for work, we uh I had a client that I ended up transferred to another guy who ended up having an issue where he had dementia, and the reason I found out about what was going on with him is because the guy who I transferred him to called me because he was arrested. This guy's like 88 years old, was arrested for choking his wife and trying to stab her because he had an episode during dementia, didn't know where he was at, he was scared, didn't recognize her, and he was you know, and like man, I did not want my wife to go through that. So I've made arrangements just in case they're gonna put me on a piece of ice and float me out in the ocean, like the Eskimos. All right, let's see. What else you got?

SPEAKER_00:

I'll just send you up to Anthony.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, a lot of good deals on backpacks. Personally, I like my Eberly stock the best, is my favorite. I have a Vertex, I have I have every backpack company, but my Eberly stock, let me pull it out.

SPEAKER_00:

Which one do you have?

SPEAKER_04:

Uh, what is this called? The dirty trick or something. What is it called? I think it's called the Dirty Trick. So the reason it's called that is the here. Let me pull this down so y'all can see. So the reason it's called that the bottom zips open and extends out, right? And extends out. So I could I could put a rifle in the main pouch, like it'll fit my 300 blackout, it won't fit like a 16-inch. Um so I can do that, but I can right now I just keep a solar battery bank in there for now because I don't need to use that. But the reason I like this the best is it has the best straps and the backing of it, these bulge out right here. Yep, and ever it's a lot of air can get. I don't sweat as bad, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Right? Yeah, I think this is the smaller. This isn't an Everly Star 2. I think it's a smaller version of that style, basically.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, but I I once I got this, this has been my favorite bag. It's got a nice pouch up top. I've got a bunch of I got keep a headlamp in there. Yep. Yeah, I keep a right in the rain notebook and pens and stuff. What else I got in here? Got a little rosary, got a few pens. I keep a keep a compass in it, you never know. And have you ever heard of a a seal cock key?

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, it's for opening faucets on the side of buildings.

SPEAKER_03:

Yep, let me see. I've got one in here. Pull it out so y'all can see it.

SPEAKER_04:

All right, so if y'all ever see those faucets on the side of a let me get to my camera, on the side of a building. Yeah, schools, churches, schools like that's what this is for. So if I'm ever having an issue where I have to walk home, right? You know, the big EMP finally goes off and I have to walk home and I need water, I can get access to any of the buildings with one of these and use their water, and maybe you know, through pressure, still get some water out of it. Uh, so I always keep those in a bag. I've got a few of them in a few different bags, uh, just in case. What else do I keep in here? I've got some. I don't keep everything in my bag because some of it I keep in my car, but if I need it, I can transition it to my bag. But one of the things I keep in there, if y'all don't have these Blackbeard fire sticks, you can make a fire with these when they're soaking wet. Yeah, you just cut a little piece off, and it's like char cloth. If any of y'all are into bushcraft, and you can start a fire anywhere at any time with these. So I always keep one of these in my bag just in case I need it. What else I got there? Um tourniquet, some medications. This is good. So Wiseman Company puts that this out. Um the lights kind of crazy. And all it has in it's got you know some bandages, band-aids, gauze pads, alcohol preps, splinter remover, remover, antibiotic, ointment, burn gel, NH cream, sting relief pads, lip balm, ibuprofen, acetamino, aspirin, antidiarrheal, antihistamine, electrolyte replenisher, and water purified tablets. So I basically just keep this in my bag. So if I ever need Motrin, I know I've got it. If I need, you know, somebody's got really bad diarrhea, I've got something to deal with that, right? I keep one of these in my bag and I keep one in the car too, just in case. But what else do I keep it? A lot of this stuff I took out because I've been used doing a lot of different stuff lately. But I keep that bag with me everywhere I go, it's always either in the vehicle or with me, in addition to my work bag. Yeah. In fact, my 300 blackout is an eight-inch barrel, and I have my suppressor permanently on it. It's 16 inches with the suppressor on it. And what I'll do is I'll just take it down. I'll take the upper down from the lower, yeah, and I'll put it in there. And if I need it, I just slap it together and I can go to work. But it'll it fits in there great like that. And that way I don't have to screw the suppressor back on. Now, if I take the suppressor off and I just collapse the buttstock, it'll fit in there. But I don't want to have to take the it's much quicker for me to take the rifle out, put the two pins together, and it's good to go. As opposed to take the rifle out, screw the suppressor on it, and then use it. Because the way I built my 300 blackout, I really don't want to shoot it without the suppressor because the muzzle brake is in the handguard and it'll destroy my handguard, and probably my hand if I shoot it without it. It's kind of inset a little bit, so it'll fit that in there easy. If you don't have a good compass, get one. Don't buy one of the cheap plastic ones. This is a Kamanga, I think they're like a hundred bucks or so. Get a good compass, learn how to use it. Uh, learn how to read maps. It's always good to have paper and pen in case you need to write something down. I like writing the rain. Dirty civilian, they love grease pencils. Uh the grease pencils are okay, they just get all over everything. But that's just one bag I like. I have a vertex bag I like. I have a go ruck bag. It's okay. It hurts my shoulders after if I wear it for too long, like cuts off the circulation. I've never had that issue with this, and I've worn this thing for miles and miles and miles of wrecking. But my my GR1 and my go wreck will cut off the circulation of my arms for some reason. I don't know what that's about. Let's see, what else? Oh, range stuff. Now's a good time to buy targets too. Yeah, steel's cheap if you want steel targets. I've got a buddy who owns a company over in Georgia called Athena Target Systems. He used to work for Crate Tactical and he kind of he broke off and did his own thing. He has a great deal on targets. Get or get cardboard targets, and you don't need much to put them up. Like his Athenian target systems, you can put them on a T-post. He has a T-post hanger and he has a T-post protector so you don't tear up the T-post. Or just buy a cardboard target, like a you know, IDPA target, and you can just use a clamp to hold it to a t-post for you. You don't have to do a lot, you don't need them, you don't need a whole lot of infrastructure to have that.

SPEAKER_00:

Where'd this come from? I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_04:

Let's see. What gear would I recommend for night vision there's behind? What gear would you recommend for night vision? Not just for hunting but traveling, say it's an EMP situation, and no artificial light exists or being stranded in the deep forest six, right? So that's a whole lot of hypotheticals. Just a little what would I recommend for night vision? It depends on how much you want to spend. Bare minimum, I would go with a PBS 14. I would do an analog, I wouldn't do digital. It one not that digital is not as good as analog, it's it can be good enough, but it's not gonna you're gonna kick yourself after you see analog, right? It's it's they're completely different things.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, if you're in a situation with very little ambient light with the digital, because I I have I have a illuminator, you need you need an illuminator. Yeah, this is an infrared flashlight.

SPEAKER_04:

With my PBS 14, I have a single tube PBS 14. If there's one star in the sky, I'm good. Yep. I don't need a whole lot, but I would do a PVS 14, and there's a you can get them pretty much anywhere. I would go with Gen 3 if you can, Gen 2 Plus at the least. Uh, you're looking at spending two,$3,000 for it.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, Gen 2 Plus PVS 14 is gonna be about two grand.

SPEAKER_04:

But you're gonna have it for the rest of your life. Buy one that's in a really good tube made by you know, like US Steel or US Night Vision. Brushbeater has been putting out a lot of AGM and uh Wolf products that are really good, but you'll have it for the rest of your life. This is not like something you're even you want something better, it's still really good, so you can just like give it to your kid and let him use it while you're out with them. Right? So it's not something you'll ever get rid of. But I would get at least a skull cap to go with it. with with the you know g three was the g three wilco wilcox mount and you can really get a chinese knockoff that's just as good don't spend the three four or five hundred dollars to get a Wilcox mount buy the the Timu version it's gonna be just as good so these were images from just a couple weeks ago and I just have a a gen 2 plus that there's no moon in the sky it this night and this is on a an overlook and the the pictures don't really do it justice because I'm literally holding my phone camera up to the eyepiece but yeah I mean you know this is that's a few hundred yards away like it was I could make everything out just as well as I could in the daylight. Night my wife was really mad when I bought night vision because the issue is about two years ago there was some bans on importing night vision and and thermal and thought we were like if you didn't get it now you might not be able to get it so I went ahead and jumped again I just went and bought it and just like you know took some money out savings and bought it and she wasn't happy about it until one night I let her use it she's like oh I get it it's a superpower like if you can see like you can see anything like we so at my house my from my house to the road is about 150 yards and I have a driveway monitor type thing where it'll ring up here when somebody crosses in front of it and so at night it'll go off at like three o'clock in the morning it's usually a dog right just running around going crazy or whatever at three o'clock in the morning but occasionally I'll go up my night vision look to see what it is and there's been sometimes I've seen someone trying to get in my gate really it's usually somebody drunk and they don't know where they're at and they're at the wrong house but you know it it has been a couple times where I've had somebody and I've had to turn on the lights and shine a light at them and they turn around and go away but I can do that and there was no moon no stars or anything and I can still see them perfectly fine but it it might have been quad tubes oh boy yeah talking about some money silencer central has a buy one get one free right now on suppressors if you're gonna buy a suppressor you need to buy it before January 1st because after January 1st all the stock's gonna be gone the tax stamp is going away you don't have to pay the$200 anymore and everyone's gonna buy them well and they're gonna the tax amps not going away it's just free. Well it I mean it's effectively gone away you still have to you still have to apply and everything but you just don't have to pay for it anymore. So there's now no longer a$200 surplus on top of whatever suppressor you want which for in the in the interim in the beginning it's gonna make supply very scarce but eventually when supply catches up with demand the price of suppressors is going to just crater because everyone's gonna be able to offer them now you don't have to have you know a multi-million dollar facility to crank these things out to make it worth it. Like you can just a traditional baffle system and put something out for like a hundred bucks. Well then with with you know titanium 3D printing and stuff now like like you said it's you don't need a machine shop anymore you just need a 3D printer to make these things as to go back to this one as far as an EMP situation or whatever you need I mean to be honest with you that this the science isn't really there on EMPs mostly oh boy here goes another nuclear commission no so there's there was an EMP commission done by William Fortune and Newt Gingrich right and their concern was the worst case scenario the EMP everything's gone power infrastructure is gone 90% of people are going to be dead in like two months right but since then there have there's entire universities researching this now NC Scout had a guy on who's a considered EMP you know specialist I guess very knowledgeable in EMPs and basically he said like they're not gonna be powerful enough they might knock power out for a little while but it really won't affect cars or personal homes or personal electronics very much at all you mean like man-made EMPs like nuclear airburst yeah not not like a CME like like a Carrington event yeah it's still like civilization and when the Carrington event happened it caused mass chaos not because there were there was no electricity yet it was due to the the wire lines for most you know they're sending messages telegraph lines ignited they all caught on fire entire buildings caught on fire from it that's something different but man-made EMPs even with a nuclear weapon that they're pretty sure that it will affect some stuff but not a lot but if you don't want to protect it you need to get a Faraday bag silent slnt or slant I don't know what they call it silent slant whatever it is depends on yeah we have to make an American company called round but they make some really good stuff they make a backpack you can just keep that stuff in right they have a lot of government contracts now as well so you kind of have to jump on them if you want to get it because otherwise it takes a while and it takes a while for it to come back in stock but you can make Faraday cages in fact an old microwave works yeah as I can say you you have a Faraday cave in your house cage in your house it's a microwave yeah just put stuff in your mic otherwise you can just take a metal trash can line it with like three mil rubber bag of some sort and then put cardboard inside that put cardboard inside the lid and that will be a Faraday bag too a Faraday cage too nice three legged three legged Joe over there I don't suggest 40 Smith Wesson at all. No but as far as a suppressor I mean anything that does nine can do a 40 it's the same size bullet uh let's see what else do we miss so the new law on the tax stamp is that the$200 fee for the tax stamp is going away as of January 1st so you still have to apply for the tax stamp you just don't have to pay the fee anymore which is going to cause a run on on all that stuff let's see what else was on these lists that I wanted to go over man not being able to talk about the price of guns kind of this episode. And to be honest with you nothing's like really a fantastic deal I haven't really seen anything like man I need to jump on that. So to get back to dimension returns as I'm looking at something that just passed Unity risers I mean a lot of guys like Unity risers because it allows you to put optics higher or put a magnifier higher or any type of 3D printed lens caps right you you don't need to pay that much for those things you're basically just bang for a name at this point you you can buy so GBRS put out a thing called the hydra mount and it's basically capability being able to put an optic and a laser at the same time without taking a bunch of real estate on the rail right and they want like 450 500 bucks for this thing you can get the Chinese version off Amazon for like 40 bucks just as good a lot of guys are like no it's Chinese it doesn't no it is just as good there's a piece of metal guys just a piece of metal it goes on a Picatinny rail crack that thing down puts a Loctite on it just as good there's a guy on YouTube who does specifically budget like knockoff stuff and tests it and a lot of the stuff is about the same there's a big thing right now on on X about guys going to Harbor Freight to get a streamlight TLR knockoff for like a third of the price of the streamlight TLR. I mean in the same factory from what I hear I wouldn't doubt it. So just know like you do your research on this stuff there's no reason to pay a premium on this stuff PSA sewing machine they're saying we should use code words for the guns to talk about pricing oh very well like calling them the Red Sea pedestrians elder brothers small hats tunnel diggers tunnel rats would be the better one rot and reels for so any of you that might be veterans as well Bass Pro has a 10% off everything all the time for veterans but also five percent off ammo and firearms so if you want to take advantage of that that's good because their prices are usually pretty good on those things anyway so if you want to take an extra 5% off you can do it. Yeah that that's been my issue with the TLR like no matter what it's on strobe no so it it's got like a like a a paddle that goes back and forth and once you go to strobe like you can't like you can't turn off the strobe you so you you will accidentally go to strobe sometimes if you don't do it right all right so since Joe's here where's Joe at quit quit so Joe won the competition for October was he the only one that submitted no we had a few guys we had three four guys nice yeah you don't aren't you in the telegram chat yeah you know how many telegram chats I have too many apparently yeah too many you only need two okay come on the the the end tower isn't in a chat this size that's not even fair I know there's like eight people here watching this we have literally dozens of people watching this but Joe was the the winner Joe message me on telegram and let me know what you want me to order for you and I'll order it for you from the avoiding Babylon actually you let me know what he chooses and I can get it at a cost.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay and I'll just Venmo you or something yeah yeah yeah that's good otherwise I don't need to make nine bucks off of you the mechanics wear tactical gloves for 25 bucks that's not bad uh gloves are a disposable item don't spend a whole lot of money on gloves mechanics wears are fine you can buy them for you know 20 bucks or so did you buy any of the Rebel Raiders play carrier yeah yeah I ordered the the vulcarian the the actually a couple apothecary bags did you did you get the refills from refuge medical I did I did yep the i that way I have one just on its own and then I got a couple I think I got three or four of his slings I mean for 25 bucks or something yeah his that's that's a really his slings are a really good deal slings are I've never like the technology on a sling hasn't really changed.

SPEAKER_04:

I mean because like blue force ones are like 80 bucks you get the the makeful one for 50 I have a padded one and I think I paid like a hundred bucks for it and not worth it not worth it at all I'm regret that decision a lot I would have and because uh the other side of it I bought that the really the biggest factor you want to look at is you want to look at the capability to extend and and and contract it basically right how quick slider is your is the biggest thing you're gonna have fail on any sling that and the connection point to the rifle now I don't use quick qd anymore for my rifle they're too loud they clank around all the time they make a lot of noise I just I use the the the loop and I put 550 cord and I and I put 550 on my rifle and that's what I connect to.

SPEAKER_00:

It's silent it does the job and it works and it's and it doesn't make the clanking sound like a QD does I think he said those were gonna arrive to him on the 30th so I think he plans on getting those shipped out beginning of December.

SPEAKER_04:

The apothecary bags the all of it all of it yeah because there's a pre-order so yeah see there's it the the vortex divender micro apparently everybody loves it I don't have any vortex the CCW yeah I think I saw that was on sale for a hundred bucks really yeah something like that yeah I have I I'm a big fan of open emitters I I have it I have a closed emitter and it's the only one that's crapped out on me I think I have the vortex defender on my conic do you yeah I mean for for the price it seems really nice but yeah mags are cheap as far as mags go you can get gen 2 P mags for like eight bucks it's it's technically a disposable item but P mags will last you forever but you need to treat them like they're disposable like as if the cost because eventually they will go out as far as other mags I like dura mags any type of steel mags are good just make sure they have an anti-tilt follower in them most do now you really don't have to worry about it they almost all have it now but Lancer the best translucent mags you'll find like I the P mag ones are okay but for the money Lancer's gonna be better because it has a metal feed lips in it so it doesn't collapse like the translucent P mags do and they are by far the best translucent mags they have you're gonna get a lot of kickback from guys who the first gen Lancers were bad and they were but then they they've they worked out the bugs on them they put the metal feed lips and everything they work great but gen three p mags the reason a lot of people went with those one is Gen 2s are being overinserted into the mag magazine well and so they were causing issues with feeding and getting locked up the Gen 3 has basically a a ledge on it to keep that from happening but as well as a lot of your aftermarket side benefits to the to the Gen 3 is like for example Daf Rico makes what's called the DOS boot and it's basically an extender to the mag but also a a capability to rest the mag on the ground and have it you know grip the ground really well so you can add two rounds to your mag so you can get up to you know 32 and I'm a believer of 30 rounds of mags it's built to to hold 30 you should put 30 in it the 29 gang can get the hell out of here but the DOS we'll actually go up to 32 but it has a textured bottom to it so you can rest it and not worry about it slipping everything. Yeah yeah the mags that came with my Daniel's fans were just like that too yeah I don't like ETS I've had too many issues with them and I don't even use them I don't even use the I mean I use them for training but the P mag Glock mags I use them just for I do not carry with them I just use them for training. And it I've never had an issue with them but I'm scared to but I know my Glock mags like the Glock is built around the mag the magazine is basically what they build every pistol around is why the Glock magazines are so dependable but ETS mags I've had too many issues with them I won't carry them I use Lancer mags for all my three blackouts so I can visually see what's three blackout and what's not so I don't I definitely got three blackout my AR see Freeman knows Freeman uh does a lot of competition shooting I don't know if y'all seen some of the pictures he puts up he puts them we've seen some in the telegram but we've seen some in the old avoiding babble on telegram too but yeah I don't doubt it I've had I've had a Gen 2 oh get over inserted in my in my service rifle when I was in the Marines and I had to break the magazine in half and pull it out yeah it was real bad it was at the range too when I was at the rifle range getting called thankfully it wasn't while I was on the line because that would have been real bad. Yeah but I was panicking a little bit all right but we'll post these lists on here for y'all another good thing to have is get some silica packets or silica containers I just bought eight of them for like 30 bucks and it's basically a a metal tin with silicon silica gel capsules in it and you you can recharge it by just throwing it in the oven and it'll get all the moisture but I throw it I put one in each one of my cans of ammo right just never thought about that and it's like the opposite of a humidor. Yeah pretty much and they're cheap and why not right then like I had to buy I probably need to buy a few more because I just filled up like eight yeah eight fifty cal cans of ammo now like they're not full not all of the full to the top depends on like I got one that's got 2000 rounds of nine mil in it but I've got some that are just like 500 rounds of you know 69 grain or 75 grain or whatever and I because I keep them all separate. Keep them all grain separate. Do not eat the silica packets Joe don't encourage him he's giving up bad advice somebody's gonna see it some kids going to see it and think it's nerds and they're gonna eat it and they're gonna die that's why we have morning labels and everything because people have done it by people eating means marines more than likely so when you when you see a hairdryer that says do not use in the shower that's because someone's used it in the shower I wish I was joking. That's exactly what it is someone has done that all right did you see anything else that you liked on there not that we can really talk about no that's the second y'all go when when we give you the list go in there and look at them see if there's anything that they like we'll post it in the telegram too so y'all can have access to it and we'll pin it so y'all can come see them. But feel free to get in there and ask questions about some of the stuff there's gonna be people in the telegram who have had access and who have used a lot of this stuff. Me, you know I've used a lot of this you know Rob's used a lot and we got some other guys in there have used a lot of this stuff and so you can get our opinion on some of this stuff. If you don't really have a lot of money to buy some of this stuff and you want some military surplus is the way to go right PNW Gorilla or Pax and Supply or Kushiki or venture surplus or any of those places just buy military surplus and get used to using that until you can slowly upgrade other stuff you can buy pretty much a whole set of you know LBE or a taps rig or something for like 30 40 bucks you know I think I got a taps rig from PMW grilla for 20 bucks. Yeah there I still have one I was issued and it's it's great don't wear the mill surp underwear especially if it's striped but only one stripe your filter pale sometimes that's a question do you think this is the true Saddam requested see the passion of the Christ before his execution that's not the first time I've heard that like I heard that back in like oh seven it may be true and he might be they both hit the Jews. In my experience affluent Muslims do not have an issue with Christianity like desert Muslims and he wasn't really like a devout Muslim either no is very secular most Muslims are not no right that live in anywhere close to a city like I can't tell you the amount the Afghan national police and you know other officials over there that tried to get me to buy alcohol for them all the time. And I would you know because why not build up some goodwill and get some favors if I needed something you know which I usually did for something you know but but yeah they don't they they only pray five times a day when there's other Muslims around like it's the same thing like how do you keep a Baptist from drinking all your liquor you invite another Baptist. Yeah like if there's another one around they're not gonna do it or they're gonna only act right when there's another one around but when they're by themselves they do not follow it at all yes Islam is not a religion it is a geopolitical governmental system with a set of beliefs randomly attached to it now it's basically how they were able to get the the Bedouin tribes to stop feuding and conquer other peoples that's what it that's all it is. Yeah now originally it was just a Christian heresy but then it's developed into this governmental judicial system with a you know side of fries on it. Yes I agree any last questions before we get off here I'm gonna post our next show will be the first yes the first our next competition I'll put we'll we'll go over it on the first it's still gonna be firearms related but we're gonna include a little bit more of stressors in it not nothing great like I try to trying to walk and run y'all you know call walk run for y'all i don't i'm not trying to throw y'all in the deep end on some of the stuff if you don't ever do this right but like I I want to introduce you to some things that you really should implement into your training. What did I get Rob for his birthday I called him a retard. I mean that's the best thing I could have got that's all that I couldn't ask for anything more I didn't even know it was Rob's that's how bad of a friend I am I didn't know it was his birthday till until you saw Anthony's tweet until I saw Anthony post it.

SPEAKER_00:

I love how anth okay you first you think oh look Anthony's doing something nice and tweeting about Rob's birthday until you realize Anthony gets all the engagement for that tweet and gets paid based on it. And because everyone replies so well you well you have to understand replies on Twitter push the algorithm more than likes so when everyone replied to him saying happy birthday to me you pushed his tweet further in the algorithm to make him more money what so like is he even making any decent money from that I think he like it does it like pay a power bill or anything I don't over a month yeah probably I make probably 60 or 70 bucks every two weeks so I make I make but say let's just say 150 a month from it he's getting probably three times the engagement I am so yeah he's probably making 300 bucks a month wow not bad just for running his mouth yep now some i mean some of the big accounts on there they're getting paid you know like yeah 1500 bucks a month now and those aren't even the super big accounts but I wonder uh I should talk to uh George from Chivarrials and see what he makes if he does make anything because he's got a pretty he's got a lot of followers right he's got like 50 000 or something yeah when when I got that six million impressions on that tweet about the the the Hindus I thought like oh this is gonna be a nice one I got paid 50 bucks more because they're they're not so first off it's based on a share of whatever X made from advertisers during that period so if they're not making a lot from advertisers during that period everyone gets you know less uh yeah but they're they're not very transparent on how they pay people like it's not just based on impressions because if it was just based on impressions I would I would have made a ton on that tweet they if they call it it has to be a quality impression right so all I did was tweet a sentence you know retweet a tweet with an with a sentence uh that I said they don't you know that's they don't consider that a quality tweet in their mind it's not like it was an original tweet that a bunch of other people were interacting with and stuff like that so yeah I just don't have the patience to be honest enough to even worry about all that stuff like I just my issue has been with like it it's too much of a time sink for me so I have to I lurk more than I comment because if I'll get into like an argument with somebody and it'll last all day.

SPEAKER_04:

Yep sucks your old days I just don't have the patience for that anymore. Now I've done it like I've I'll get in the mud with some people but um I've I've seen you do it but uh who was the last uh setting was the last guy I really got into it with Sedibacante yeah where's he I didn't did he get I haven't seen it I mean I think I mean I I've had a block forever so I wouldn't have seen the tweet that upset me if Jason hadn't texted it to me and said do you yeah but I just I just don't have the I just don't care enough anymore yeah I and nothing annoys me more than the rage bait titles of you know the word this if I see this in the title I'm I might block you like what do you mean like uh so for example like what is some of these like YouTube the YouTube does you people on YouTube do it all the time things like you know for example I think Mike Pantile did one time like demons hate this oh like yeah yeah hey what like the video don't care enough like I'm just not gonna watch it so but that drives engagement with it it does it is it is low hanging fruit and you're catering to the sub 80 IQ people that get onto social media and that's where they find their identity and I've just can't get into that stuff. Did Pipe go to detract his no he didn't and he hasn't apologized for it that I've seen either he won't all he did was delete the video but don't worry the internet but I saved it so and it's sad too because like I've met him in person he's a nice guy but like his his worldview is starting to collapse around him right and he doesn't know how to handle it like we all went through it you know at one point yeah like and it's just it's happening to him because like he's just now to the point where he's willing to like he he just allowed a crack to open up enough to where he became Catholic but now that you opened up that one crack now other thing you're gonna start looking at other things in a different light. Right now all kinds of truth is going to get in and if it is counter to what you've believed your entire life you have to make a choice do you stay ignorant or do you believe the truth and he's he's on the precipice right now of having to make that decision. It's like women with feminism but he's a very new convert that thinks he knows everything because he has a PhD.

SPEAKER_00:

That's makes it the hardest part. For a lot of us, when we realize we wrong we were wrong, it's like, oh well that makes sense. I'm always wrong.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah. He was Protestant. He was like he was Baptist, I think. But he he needs to because that rant was so public, it is required of him for justice to provide a public apology to Taylor Marshall. Like he he dog cussed him in that video. Like he needs to come out of the video in his priest, if his priest is you know seen that any of his social media interactions should make him do a public apology to Taylor Marshall.

SPEAKER_00:

If he went to the TLM his priest probably would we know what he feels about the TLM. Yeah we know exactly what he feels about the DM because it makes it some go after Taylor I'm like we Taffy made that video of about all the last few guys who went after Taylor and what happened to them.

SPEAKER_04:

Paul if you haven't if you see me on X, I it's I posted about it a c uh Saturday Friday whatever when it happened Yeah that that Joe that was the most disappointing comment. He would rather leave leave leave Rome than he would leave the United States that's that's Americanism mostly it's a little bit more nuanced than that you know to bring aloptimism into this but that's basically he's choosing his country over God. Like his he's made an idol out of his out of the United States.

SPEAKER_00:

I cannot think of just the most basic words tonight. I don't know what the hell is going on denounces what High XI denounces in his encyclical against the Nazis you know raising things like racial race, nation and state above you know to to an inordinate level Paul basically he like I said he dog cussed Taylor Marshall for like seven minutes.

SPEAKER_04:

Called him trash and all kinds of other names but just because Taylor Marshall basically called a spade a spade and said that Thomas Jefferson is was a Mason Illuminati and is not worthy of our reverence. And Mr Pipe Cottage man did not like that.

SPEAKER_00:

That's actually being rather uh charitable to uh I'm trying to Thomas Jefferson to be honest.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah. Yeah yeah Taylor Marshall was a lot nicer about it we and so this is especially hard for me because like I went to war for this country and now I'm at the point where like I'm kind of mad that I went to war for this country. Like because I basically just went to fight for another country.

SPEAKER_00:

And it all ended up being for not in the end.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah yeah it is for not like Afghanistan's gone. That was a waste of our time we should have never gone but he Alan Harrelson needs to get off social media he can't handle it. He thinks his opinion's worth way more than it is and this is the reason Thomas Quant said you sh you know new converts shouldn't even you know talk about the faith in public. That's not verbatim. But they should not be teaching the faith or anything for at least like 20 years. Right? He's been a Catholic for like a year and a half and that's his issue. His pride has gotten the best of him and we should pray for him because he needs it. Because he's got a he's unwilling to listen to people trying to help him. Because I know some people who have his personal phone number who have tried to help him with this and he won't listen to him I don't know if he'll deconvert but like he'll it's not gonna be good for him. He's gonna have a crisis between any other last questions before we get off here?

SPEAKER_00:

We've been out here a little over two hours Rob's anxious to get to bed when their old store Yup I got a few of those when they were closing that out jumped in there real quick got a bunch of stuff on sale for like 50% off it was awesome.

SPEAKER_04:

I can't get his beer down here but at least I get a shirt.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm going to the Twin Cities this weekend so I'm gonna have to hop over to hop over to St. Croix to Wisconsin and get some of their beer is that a far detour no it's about a 30 minute drive from where we'll be staying so alright guys I think we're gonna cut it off here Joe make sure you get a hold of me and I'll get a hold of Rob to get you that that shirt or whatever you want.

SPEAKER_04:

But we will see y'all next week and next week we will start the new competition for December. So y'all take care and we'll see y'all next week