Evil at the Door: Fake UPS Triple Murderer Gets Life Without Parole

The night feels warmer when the tree is lit and packages pile up—but that’s exactly when we get sloppy. We open with cold-shop chatter, pipe smoke, and Christmas staycations, then turn straight into a case that’s hard to hear: three men posing as UPS drivers, seven minutes at a front door, three lives lost, and two children left behind. We unpack the red flags most people miss—no truck in sight, too many “employees,” faces obscured—and translate them into simple, repeatable rules your family can use today.

We keep it practical: how three-inch screws in your door hinges and strike plates can buy you minutes, why doorbell cameras only work if you use them like a gatekeeper, and how carrier alerts tell you when a signature is actually required. We lay out a realistic home-defense posture with kids around—quick-access safes, room-by-room staging if you don’t carry at home, and why passive aiming often beats lighting up the night with an IR flood. Gear has a place, but habits win.

We don’t dodge the legal side either. Brandishing will get you charged. If you draw, be prepared to stop a threat and then navigate prosecutors, civil suits, and the media climate of your area. Consider carry insurance. Along the way, we balance the heaviness with the things that anchor us: the three-gift rule, Advent over hurry, a new “polar bear” puppy, and the grace that strengthens parents facing a world that never stops knocking. We even sketch plans for a spring campout and range weekend—because community and reps matter more than opinions.

If you’ve ever thought, “That won’t happen here,” this conversation is a firm, caring nudge to rethink your front door, your routines, and your readiness. Subscribe, share this with someone who answers the door at home, and leave a review with the one change you’re making this week. Your plan starts now.

Chapters

• 0:00 Cold Shop, Pipes, And Christmas Catch-Up
• 4:00 Family Illness, Staycation, And Gifts
• 8:30 New Puppy, Road Trips, And Hotel Stories
• 13:00 Family Surprises, Faith, And Local News Blackouts
• 18:00 Banks, Silver, And Systemic Cracks
• 22:30 Gift Budgets, Three-Gift Rule, And Advent
• 27:30 Trad Culture, Self-Defense, And Male Responsibility
• 33:00 Night Vision, IR Lasers, And Practical Gear Choices
• 39:00 Cabins, Bears, And Fortified Camping
• 43:00 The Coon Rapids Triple Homicide Setup
• 47:00 Spotting Red Flags At The Door
• 51:00 Doors, Screws, Cameras, And Policy
• 55:30 Legal Realities: Brandishing And DA Risks
• 1:00:00 Community, Sponsors, And Training Challenges
• 1:04:00 Campout And Range Weekend Plans
• 1:08:00 Faith Life, TLM Access, And Driving For Sacraments
• 1:15:00 Grace, Early Communion, And Digital Temptation
• 1:21:00 Culture Notes, Music Nostalgia, And Online Drama
• 1:27:00 Leadership At Home And The Weight Of Duty
• 1:31:40 Closing Banter And Sign-Off

Transcript

SPEAKER_01: 0:43

Merry Christmas.

SPEAKER_02: 0:45

I am having to pipe my or pipe my tobacco. I'm filling my pipe up. It's 32 degrees out here in my shop right now. So I am I've got some alcohol. That's gonna be colder. Bruh. You know how many sub freezing temperature rooks I've been on, and my camelback was filled with nothing but Red Bull vodka?

SPEAKER_03: 1:20

It doesn't mean it kept you warm.

SPEAKER_02: 1:22

It kept me from noticing the cold.

SPEAKER_03: 1:25

No, Adrian is not cosplaying his tempo. He's just cold.

SPEAKER_02: 1:31

It's cold out here. I almost saw about wearing the one. My wife crocheted me one and I love it. And she hates that I love it. But uh I should have worn it, but or I've got the uh cousin Eddie one.

SPEAKER_08: 1:48

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 1:50

My my mother-in-law got that for me as a joke last year, and I loved it, and she was shocked that she loved it. Yeah, I've so I've I have some Christmas cookie pipe tobacco from Boswell and uh St. Nicholas pipe from was this Peterson, I think, or Seven Alley, Seven Alley. And I'll only smoke this during Christmas. Shalom. Shalom.

SPEAKER_03: 2:22

He will be using his$7,000 to improve his studio. You use a torch for your pipe, or is that a soft lighter? Okay. Like, surely you're not that much of a heathen.

SPEAKER_02: 2:43

I can't afford one of those light lighters. I can't afford I don't want to afford one of those$140 pipelighters. I just don't see the point. Like, why you know it's more or less just a status symbol more than anything. I just need fire. Yeah, like one of those. One of these you're bougie.

SPEAKER_03: 3:04

Uh yeah, yeah. I'm basically uh basic white girl for all my hobbies, I guess. How's Christmas? I'm not it was good, it was good. We were finally feeling all better.

SPEAKER_02: 3:20

Yeah, I was gonna say, you know that function was.

SPEAKER_03: 3:24

We were still sick Wednesday and Thursday, so like we missed Christmas Mass, unfortunately, with Sun, which sucks. And we didn't get to uh travel to see family and stuff like that, like we had wanted to, but this weekend when we finally were feeling better, we decided to do a little staycation and go to a hotel like 20 minutes away. You know, that is a good restaurant and a nice pool, and the kids swam a total of like 14 hours, I think, this weekend. To the point where I'm like falling asleep, you know, at the side of the pool, like watching them, and but they had a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_02: 4:05

Yeah, ours is uh ours was good. I found out some interesting things this seeing some family. Oh boy. So like we had ours, so we have Christmas Eve Eve, so we don't we get together with the family like usually two days before Christmas Eve because Christmas Eve is for us and Christmas Eve is for us, and my in-laws stay with us usually, or they have in the past stayed with us Christmas Eve, and they'll wake up with us and the kids and everything, and it was good, you know. Like I it's to the point where I like to spoil everybody, but I hate when they get me stuff. Oh, yeah, 100%. Uh like you know, and but so I've got my brother-in-law is probably the best gift giver I've ever met. Like he just he just nails it every year on some, and it's like weird stuff I never knew. I wanted, you know. Like this year, he got me a bore snake that attaches my iPhone, and then he got a bunch of really cool tools. I was like, Man, I had no idea I wanted this stuff, but I do. I'm glad I got it, you know.

SPEAKER_03: 5:08

So how many how many guns have you inspected the barrel on now? I I won. I only know once a fun.

SPEAKER_02: 5:16

I've been so busy, I've been so busy I've been able to, you know, because right after Christmas, the day after we went up to Louisville. I'm from I grew up in Louisville, Kentucky, and and so a lot of my family's up there and in Lexington. And we went up there and we stayed at the Brown downtown, and just I went around visiting some family I hadn't seen in a few years, and and then the whole reason for us going up there is my daughter, my son, has been she's really been working on getting enough responsibility to get her own dog. Yeah, we have we had two German shepherds now, and they're German shepherds, but she wanted her own, and she's really done well. So we we found her a dog, and I go I would you know, as her Christmas present, I I would give her half the money, she'd have to do the other half just to make sure she has some skin in the game on it, you know, she makes sure to take care of it. So we have there, and it's a great Pyrenees and Golden Retriever mix, and it it's just a polar bear, it's a little polar bear running around my house. Sounds like it. And it's the it's a cute little dog, you know, but it's still a puppy, it's only nine weeks, but it's huge. When I saw it, and I was like, that's only nine weeks. That's like a full-grown dog almost, you know. I was like, how much bigger is this dog? I was like, Well, how big, how big is the mom? Oh, the mom's only 70 pounds. Like, that's not too bad. How big is the dad? Oh, he's about 130. Like, this dog's gonna be a hundred pounds. I'd guarantee it. Every bit a hundred pounds. It's way bigger than my two German Shepherds. But but I've been I've been in the car probably I don't know, probably 20 hours over the last 72, just driving everywhere. But it's been good, the kids loved it. See, the brown down in Louisville is like the this is uh yeah, this is basically yeah, that's exactly what she looks like. She's a little polar bear running around my house right now. But the brown downtown in downtown Louisville is I the the way I compare it, it's like the the hotel in Home Alone 2. Okay, uh just just real beautiful, right? And the rooms are okay. You know, rooms are good, rooms are they're like, you know, they're spacious enough in everybody, but it was just a good little trip, you know, just a good little Christmas. Yeah, not to spoil everybody, which is my favorite thing to do. And in fact, right before I came on, I had to finish putting together the dollhouse that I couldn't do before we left a dollhouse, huh?

SPEAKER_03: 7:50

Yeah, you don't have girls. I do, yeah. Yeah, how's it? You just think wait until that little puppy has an accident in the dollhouse or something like that.

SPEAKER_02: 7:59

Hey, it's around our house, things don't survive very long. So not with the kids and everything, they break everything. But we'll see. I my oldest daughter's had her dollhouse since she was like five. Really? So she's had it a long time, but she takes care of everything, so that's yeah, which is why she got a dog because she's she's very good and very responsible. But so things I found out this weekend.

SPEAKER_03: 8:25

Let me guess, you can immigrate to Israel.

SPEAKER_02: 8:29

No, no, no, you're not Jewish. Not that good, not that good. Okay. I uh found out that the baby room regeneration is not, at least in my family, is not as bad as I thought. Oh, really? My uncle is.

SPEAKER_03: 8:46

No, we're never gonna find out what his uncle is. And it's mostly because of his Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, no, you cut off right when you said my uncle is. Oh man, really is doing this now? First off, first off. Okay, it cut off right when you said my uncle is.

SPEAKER_02: 9:08

So my uncle is asking all the right questions. Good, and it's mostly because his kids I've kind of clued him in on some things, and so we were talking about he's like, Do you know who's in charge of Pornhub? Do you know who's in charge of APAC? Do you know who's in charge? Like, Unc, say no more. I know exactly what you mean.

SPEAKER_03: 9:26

Hold on, let me throw you some Instagram reels your way. You're like, I got this banger of a song, you're gonna love it.

SPEAKER_02: 9:36

Yeah, let me sing you the song. Two days before that, I'm at my my godmother's house. They have a house down on the lake in in Kentucky, and her kit or my cousins were there. We're that that talk book came up too, and it's making sure my godmother knows exactly what's going on out there. I was like, Man, is it just my family? Are we like the anomaly? We're just food in that what's going on, but it was good, man. We enjoyed it. We uh it's always nice to go and see family you haven't seen in a while and uh find out some things you didn't know about them, you know. Yeah, it is sad. The one of the sad things about my family, my that whole side of my family, they're all cradle Catholics. Like Louisville is super Catholic, right? There's a there's a Catholic church every three blocks, and and it's sad because I have to catechize my family. My godmother, uh my my godfather, who we saw on Sunday, loves Taylor Marshall, him and my aunt. They both love Taylor Marshall. So it's just getting to know some things that I didn't know before has been nice.

SPEAKER_03: 10:45

That's awesome. Yeah, that's awesome. My state made the news in a big way over the weekend. Man, has your state been making the news?

SPEAKER_02: 10:53

Oh my god, man. Golly, and you know what, and it's caused a cascading effect amongst other states, like that was like in Maine, Vermont, Columbus, Ohio, New York, Oregon, Idaho. I it's everywhere.

SPEAKER_03: 11:08

They're climate everywhere.

SPEAKER_02: 11:10

Everywhere.

SPEAKER_03: 11:11

Like, I mean, let's be real. When someone digs into California and New York, it's gonna make Minnesota look like a pittance, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02: 11:20

Yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be real real bad when we start getting into some of these ones and we're like, we know where all that's going. We know exactly who's going to. You know, and then there, and then that story is coming back up from Minnesota that congressman that y'all had, the state congressman that was shot and killed. And the shooter admitted that Tim Walls or claimed claimed that Tim Walls uh allegedly, allegedly paid her.

SPEAKER_03: 11:48

Now, the the guy does seem not like legitimately like crazy.

SPEAKER_02: 11:53

But he didn't murder something like true, true.

SPEAKER_03: 12:01

But it is very interesting that the two people who were well, there were four people shot, but the two Congress the two lawmakers that were shot were both one was the only Democrat that joined the Republicans in trying to defund health care for illegal immigrants, and then the other was a Democrat who had been talking, you know, with Republicans to potentially vote against it. So it I mean, it is it is it's weird, right?

SPEAKER_02: 12:33

Yeah, yeah. Um so what's the sentiment in your neck of the woods about all this coming out? Like, are you just aware of it because you're on social media or is like the local news covering it?

SPEAKER_03: 12:45

Oh no, no. There's no no local, like I I guess I don't really look at like the local local news, but like the news in the twin cities in Minneapolis, St. Paul, not covering it at all. Like the big story last two days was the snowstorm we got.

SPEAKER_02: 13:03

The snowstorm that we got in Minnesota in December. And that'd be why then happening up north, yes, all the time.

SPEAKER_03: 13:12

Like, because it's you know, precipitation comes down, it's cold, so it's if it was end of April, maybe that would be a story then, even then, not so much, but end of December, come on. Yeah, yeah. Paul Paul is in Minnesota. There no one is and like I I haven't like asked a bunch of you know people I know, but I really doubt most have heard a thing about it, which it's crazy because a hundred and like fifteen million people saw the saw the video on Twitter.

SPEAKER_02: 13:47

Yeah. Yeah. I think the only time it'll start really being covered a lot is when high profile people get arrested. If they ever do. Yeah, yeah, if they ever do. But it's just a matter of, you know, they they hide all this stuff because they're all implicated in it, right? Yes. So for example, uh, did you see on social media today that uh over the weekend a bank a bank went belly up? Supposedly, right? That's the rumor. No, it went belly up. And I I know some people who and I know the bank. JP Morgan. And they bet against the wrong way on silver, real bad, and it went, it's like the government's having to step in, and which is which is sad because the govern the government wouldn't step up step in on me if I couldn't pay my mortgage, right? But you know, a giant bank goes under all of a sudden we got it, they're too big to fail, and it's stupid. But yeah, it's it's it's that basically that bank is owned by the government now.

SPEAKER_03: 15:07

It's weird that they haven't announced it.

SPEAKER_02: 15:11

They won't. They won't just like what they won't, they never announced when GM paid back the the government for all the money they they lent them to stay afloat. No one ever like everybody still thinks like GM's still owned by the government, like they're just never gonna announce that stuff. Crazy. It's been some things are going down. Like the the the cracks are starting to get a little wider. It's just gonna get worse.

SPEAKER_03: 15:40

Well, and so the the bank thing was all because of silver, right?

SPEAKER_02: 15:44

Yes, well, because silver is such it's it's a it's a precious metal and an industrial metal. Yes, it's used in in fact in every Patriot missile, there's like seven pounds of silver, really, right? That large so it's used in all kinds of technology and and things, so it's using that aspect on the other side of it as well as a lot of investment entities, we'll say, who deal in silver, don't deal in physical silver, they deal in paper silver, where they say, Hey, you're gonna own this much silver, but it's in our storage, and this is how much you have, this is how much you bought according to your portfolio. But they're not telling anybody like third 30 people own that same silver, right? There's just not enough to cover it. Uh, that's why you've seen silver basically, you know, go up 150% over the last, you know, since July, really. Because I just sold some silver back in what was it? It was July. And I I had bought it spot of 22, and I sold it the spot of 40 back in July. And I was like, oh, that's as high as it's gonna go. I'm gonna buy it again here in a couple months. I was wrong. I was like, I'll buy it when it gets back down to 24 or whatever. Yeah, that's not happening. Not anytime soon. So things could but things could get fun. We'll see. Yeah. I want to bring this up by Paul. Do you guys have family that goes hard on the gifts like too many? How do you or have you handle that? So in our family, when it comes to the kids, they get three gifts from us. Okay, one they need, one they want, and a holy gift. That's all they get from us every year. And then, you know, my her the other family will get them gifts, and that's not part of it. But what we give them is just the three. We do stocking stores too. Like it's usually like chapstick and candy and whatever, you know, just little odds and ends things. But we've had to really tone down the gift giving because a couple of years ago, I spent a lot of money on gift, and it was we were still only doing the three gifts, and I still spent a lot of money. It's bought really high quality things, and we gotta tone this down. This is like it kind of sent me back for like a month or two, the amount of money I like it. You know, we had to kind of tone some other things down because I had spent so much. I was like, we got like this is not what this is about, right? So we've kind of toned it back, we set a budget now and everything. But like the rest of our family, it that I don't mind them splurging on the kids, I don't want them getting me anything. Like, you get my get get gifts from my kids, and that's that's they'll be a gift for me, right? Because my kids enjoy it, they love it, and they usually give them really good gifts. For instance, my brother-in-law, he's in the music industry in Nashville, and he gave my son a guitar. My son is very musically inclined. He's nine years old, he's been playing the piano since he was five, taught himself how to play a piano pretty much. That was a great present. They would, they would get more president. We celebrate Hanukkah. Hanukkah. But yeah, we don't we had we had to tone it down because it started getting out of control. So we had to really and which sucked the next year. Because like the next year, when we when we kind of dialed it back, the kids are like, What is this? Are we Jewish now?

SPEAKER_03: 19:21

Danny, did you make a couple tweets about Israel or something?

SPEAKER_02: 19:29

Yeah, it's uh but it's been good since my and it's it's really just a matter of reinforcement to the kids too. Like, what are we what are we actually doing? What is the purpose of this season? Yeah, and then not only that, but not celebrating Christmas till Christmas. Like we've we've made it a purpose to only celebrate Advent up until Christmas, up until Christmas Day. Well, Christmas Eve. Christmas Eve, we decorate the church, the tree, go to church the next day, make sure we go to mass, make it a priority, even if family is in town, like sorry, y'all gonna have to be without us for a couple hours while we go to mass. You know, and that's the kids have started to see like the priority there, which has been good.

SPEAKER_03: 20:08

Yeah, we uh we do you know most of the girl gifts Christmas Day, but then uh you know throughout the remaining the remainder of the 12 days, we'll do a couple other small gifts throughout them just to you know keep reminding them like Christmas isn't over yet. Yeah, you know, because uh uh you know out in the secular world, people are taking lights down the day after Christmas and stuff like that. What are we talking about here? That's what I'm wondering.

SPEAKER_02: 20:41

So one thing I've learned being in the trad Catholic space over the last I don't know, seven years, there's a lot of people who are online trading. They they don't they might go to a mass, maybe, but a lot of them are online only, and that's their persona, like they're just being like the curmogian trad is like is who they've built their personality around. And you also have to remember that a lot of traditional Catholics live in very high population urban cities that have never really had any type of second amendment that they could actually exercise. Yeah, they've grown their entire life thinking, well, guns you know aren't shouldn't be a thing, right? You're seeing a shift in that, which is what we're trying to do here. We're trying to shift that thinking, like you know, the right of self-defense is paramount, right? It's you it is incumbent upon you, and is it a it is a duty as a husband, as a father, as a man to protect the innocent, and you know, that's what we're we're trying to help convey here. But I would be happy for anybody who wants to have a discussion on this and and has the opposite opinion to come on here and we'll discuss it. Right? Like, you know, why do you think that? What what do you think would be better? But the problem is they've only thought down about half an inch in into into that topic. Once we start pulling in some instances and some statistics and and anecdotes, it all starts falling apart, and then they get mad and they rage quit, and that's the end of it. So if you let me know who it is, I'll be happy to to invite them on and we'll discuss it with them.

SPEAKER_03: 22:34

So many trads are they can be very sheltered in many senses, you know. So many of them are so so deep in books and haven't had any experience with like you know, not to be cliche, but like with the real world that they don't recognize the paramount importance of being able to defend yourselves.

SPEAKER_02: 22:55

It it's a sadest state of affairs that most men have never been in a fight, like never been punched in the face. And how can you know who you are or what you're willing to defend if you've never even experienced a little bit of pain in the nose from getting hit in the nose? Right, and it just shows your your lack of resilience and uh and pursuit of resilience, you know, like I can't tell you how many fights I've been in growing up. That was before I joined the Marines. I've been hit like I got jumped by so many guys at one time, like both my eyes were sold shut. I couldn't see, I couldn't go to school for like a week, and this was in like sixth grade because I got jumped by these guys. So, but it didn't stop me from further defending myself, defending my brother. Like me and my brother have gotten in worse fights than I've ever been with anybody. Like I've I've stabbed my brother with a fork. So was he trying to steal your food? I was eating, but but he was trying to impress his friends he had on and tried to shove my face into the food, and so I stabbed him with a fork, and then we got in a knockdown drag out fight from that.

SPEAKER_03: 24:21

You know, that honestly seemed entirely reasonable.

SPEAKER_02: 24:26

We used to have crayon fights in the basement. Like he'd be behind one couch and I'd be behind the other couch, and we would break crayons in half at each other.

SPEAKER_03: 24:35

Destined to be a marine.

SPEAKER_02: 24:42

Who knew?

SPEAKER_03: 24:43

Who knew what so should we get into the actual topic here?

SPEAKER_05: 25:01

Every time his internet freezes, I'm just gonna do this.

SPEAKER_03: 25:06

I'm not even clicking it. He's clicking it, so we can click on things. We just can't see or hear him. Okay, there he is. He's back. There we go. John, I'm gonna let me switch my phone. Maybe that'll help. Your internet's freezing because it's so cold out there. We're not used to it.

SPEAKER_01: 25:25

We're not used to it at all.

SPEAKER_03: 25:27

There we go. No, if you're switching your phone, it's gonna disconnect completely for half a second. And now we call this one chipbunk Adrian. Oh no, sorry.

SPEAKER_02: 25:44

I think my I think I'm just too far from my router. I think is the I gotta try and figure out a way to get it out here. I don't because I I've I want to get Starlink, but I don't want to use it all the time. I I'm a happy guy. I don't know if y'all know this. I'm jovial. Downright. But I was gonna say, we don't it it's too hard going to midnight mass with kids, man. It's just they're just not able to do it.

SPEAKER_03: 26:13

The nearest midnight mask to us of any kind is two hours. The nearest Latin midnight mass to us is four hours away, so yeah, that's not true.

SPEAKER_02: 26:24

We don't have to go out of town and stay the night type of thing, and that's just not fun.

SPEAKER_03: 26:29

Yeah, no, it's not. We probably would have this year if we'd been able to travel on Christmas, but we were just still too sick for that. Yeah, uh nothing like getting done.

SPEAKER_02: 26:40

I'll watch a uh video vibe. Man, we had a kid die from the flu here in Alabama, really? Yeah, and so but you know, like how the you know how the the stories are like kid dies from the flu. I'm like, yeah, but like what were the underlying issues? Right, right. Like, did he have like a heart condition? Uh you know, like was he immunocompromised? Like, there probably was something else there.

SPEAKER_03: 27:05

Did he get shot while he had the flu?

SPEAKER_02: 27:08

Did you did you ever see uh the movie? It was like a spoof on superhero movies, it had Janine Garofflo in it. Mystery Men? Was that it? No, have y'all ever seen that? Chat tell me if that's the name of the movie. I think it's called Mystery Men, but uh it had Ben Stiller in it, his superpower, he just got really angry. That was it, he could just get like angrier than anybody else. But Janine Garofflo's character, her she was trying to get revenge for her dad because her dad tragically died from falling down a elevator shaft on some onto some bullets. It's it's it's a funny movie, man. The uh PB Herman's in it, his name is The Spleen, and he just like lets out really rank you know flatulence. How old is this movie? It's from like the early 2000s, 1999. Yeah, I was gonna say it's it's gotta be 25 years ago. It was mystery man. See, I'm not crazy. William H. Macy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 28:18

Huh. Interesting. Never even heard of it, to be honest.

SPEAKER_02: 28:26

Well, that's a that's a different era of movies. They don't make movies like that anymore. Thank you. For example, like Equilibrium. Have you ever seen that?

SPEAKER_03: 28:36

That one sounds familiar, but I don't know if I've seen it.

SPEAKER_02: 28:39

So it's got Christian Bale in it, and it's like a dystopian future, kind of like a 1984 dystopian future, but the they have gun katas.

SPEAKER_03: 28:48

Oh, that's that's the the one I've seen the video where he's like in a white suit, right? In like uh okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 28:57

I've I've seen that, but the reason you never watched it or never saw it is because it came out in the week of 9-11. So, like nobody's on, but it was it became a cult classic. And we watched it in the Marines, you know, we got like bootleg copies of it.

SPEAKER_03: 29:14

This is literally just every movie.

SPEAKER_02: 29:18

Remember that's in his contract now, he's not allowed to die.

SPEAKER_03: 29:21

He's not allowed to die anymore. What if he what if he does they imply he dies off-screen, he just never comes back into the movie? That would be funny, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 29:32

But so I to get what I was gonna say a second ago, I watched a review video by Brass Facts on the SMS Trinity, the infrared, the hour laser. Because I can't I kind of want to get one because it's gotten like really good reviews and everything. I mean, it's super cheap, it's like like 300 bucks, right? It's like our laser the iron laser I have on my 556, is I pay like a thousand bucks for it. I'm not but I'm not buying like a mall or anything that, or even like a PEC 15 or PEC 14. I'm just not gonna do it. I'm not spending that much money on it, I don't care about it that much. But it kind of turned me off, man. I didn't want to get it, even though he recommended it. Just some of the things he was talking about, the deviation on the on the laser wasn't a real big issue for him. And like to be honest with me, for me, it wouldn't be either because you with the laser, you constantly have to recalibrate the zero on those things, so just the deviation on eventually over you know a couple thousand rounds, that's not a big deal, right? But just like the actuation triggers and the shifting of the buttons and stuff, it's just I didn't want to have I was like, man, I kind of wanted to get one because it's a good price and it was supposed to be you know very reliable, and it seems like it is, but just the actually putting it into use has kind of been not very effective, we'll say, I guess. But I don't know if it have you delved into the IR laser realm yet?

SPEAKER_03: 31:03

Not yet.

SPEAKER_02: 31:07

Yeah, well, suppressors improve all accuracy because it's because the rifling of the barrel in conjunction with the excess amount of gas coming from behind the projectile, it it because it's got an extra, you know, nine six to nine inches, right?

SPEAKER_03: 31:29

It kind of in kind of increases the dwell time, yeah. You know, not exactly because it's but somewhat.

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Yeah, but most most suppressors will increase accuracy. Yeah, the Hollis and Iris, I think that's my next go-to because I need one for my 300 blackout. I've got one on my 556, I need one for my 300 blackout, and my the one I have is from US Night Vision, it's great. It's just a laser though. I don't have an illuminator. I don't and that that's when you get into like near peer and uh conflict. Like, do you use an illuminator or an hour floodlight when other people have night vision? Right, you know, because then they'll just see it, like, oh look, all of a sudden the you know the whole field's lit up. But the same thing is when you're using active aiming with a laser, you're also kind of signaling yourself as well. That's why you use passive aiming with like a you know, Yo tech or some type of red dot, right? That way they're not kind of showing everybody where you're at. But where I'm at, you know, I don't think I'd have to worry about that so much because I live in the sticks a little bit, right? But if I lived closer in like the suburbs, I could see because all those people have a lot more money, so they might have some more night vision and stuff. But the Hollis and Hours apparently is like the best bang for your buck, but you're still gonna pay a little bit more for it.

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Yeah, up where I'm at, I'm not worried about basically a bunch of old hippies that bought cabins, you know, up near by the lakes up here having you know night vision necessarily.

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What's a what's a cabin go for up there? Depends on the water, utilities like within walking distance of water, like a mile.

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Okay, so my mom. So we the cabin we had, my mom sold it a couple years ago. It had 10 acres, it had power. We had drilled the well, so it had running water during the summer. We didn't bury the water lines, so during the winter, you could go out to the well and fill fill water there, but there was no running water to the cabin during the winter. There was no septic, so there was an outhouse, okay. And then there was no uh there was no indoor shower, it was uh an outdoor sauna and shower room basically. So that my um my mom sold it. Oh, I want to say like one ten, 110,000. This is after COVID. Yes. No, no, like this the cabin itself was a one-bedroom, it had a bedroom, a kitchen, and a living room, basically, right? So super small, yeah. But now if you're if you're talking, let's say the same setup on a lake with any amount of shoreline, five hundred thousand. I bet, you know, then it then then say you you have say you have an actual indoor bathroom, running water, you know, you're talking quite a bit more, but I mean that's how much a a decent I say a nice house down there me on the lake goes for 500,000.

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Yeah, like I'm talking like a three-two, you know, nice house on you know 100 foot of you know shoreline. Yeah, it's it was about 500,000. I just because I look at like do I do I buy like I kind of want a like a mountain property? I mean, I'm not gonna go, you know, that's just not happening. But but I would go like the up near you know the the Appalachians of northeastern Alabama or you know, northwestern Georgia or or southeastern Tennessee, I'd I'd look at buying something up there eventually, I think. But I want it to be like pretty primitive. Um you know, just because like I don't want it to be a thing where like we go up there on vacation, we watch TV, and you know, I want to go we go up there and we just enjoy the surrounding, right? Yeah, wood-burning stove only, maybe even a wood-burning stove to cook on, type of thing. So I just kind of like looking around to see how much those go for. The problem is you have a lot of yuppies buying this thing. A lot of them. And it's just like and they don't do anything to them, and how much they want for them is wild. And they're like, especially closer you get to Gatlinburg, it's crazy. But they they do it, they rent theirs out a lot.

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Yeah, a lot of people do that.

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We call it fortified camping. That's what it's called.

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Fortified camping.

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Fortified camping. Yeah, but look, uh when you're camping up in the mountains and you're in a tent, you are just a breakfast burrito for a bear. That's all you are. I had a buddy who had a house up in the mountains and he had to put a bear door on. You ever seen a bear door? It's basically it's just a solid, thick wood door, and it's got you know 10-inch nails coming out from it, so they can't bat on it to knock it down. Yeah, he because his cabin kept getting ransacked by bears, so we had to put the bear door on.

SPEAKER_03: 36:52

We have a lot of black bears up here, but anytime a bear becomes a an issue like that, the DNR will come and take care of it. Yeah, yeah. All right, do we want to get into the story? Oh man, I don't know. It's not a fun story, it's not a fun story at all. Let's uh I have I have not watched the video because I figured I'd have to for one of the shows.

SPEAKER_02: 37:16

And well, we're we're still we're still not gonna watch it here. Okay, it's it's you like y'all are more than welcome to go watch it yourself. If you I don't suggest it.

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We're literally getting to it right now. Right now.

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I wouldn't suggest it. I wouldn't suggest watching it because there's a lot of infirmment, like they're not showing everything, but there's a lot of infirmment on what's happened. And the reason I wanted to bring this up, because this highlights a couple of common contradictions that people have when it comes to firearms. One being, well, shouldn't you just you know shoot them in the leg? Right? Or another being, well, you don't need that many, you don't need a 30 mount round mag, like you don't that's too much, right? You don't deer hunt with 30 round mags. And the third one being, why would I need a gun at my house?

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Right?

SPEAKER_03: 38:14

That's like or or even those who have a gun at their house and maybe carry outside of their house all the time. Why would I need to carry in my hose?

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So it kind of makes you think, you know, so do we have the story? Did you have the actual story? Not the video, but do you have like the article pulled up? I could pull up an article, otherwise, I mean I do have while while you're pulling it up, I'll kind of go over some of the things.

SPEAKER_03: 38:37

We could watch the beginning of the story, the beginning of the video before it gets graphic. Yeah, we can do that.

SPEAKER_02: 38:47

Do you want to do that or first or bring up a story about it? Let's let's bring up the story and then we'll watch the beginning of the video. But while you're bringing up the story, some of the things that kind of made me reconsider what I do, because like as it is now, I already have a gun in every room. Right? It's like just to have access, because I'm not carrying on me. Like I, you know, some guys believe, hey, if you're gonna carry outside, you should carry in your house all the time. Like I just I do too much stuff around the house. I mean, I I wrestle with my boys all the time. I can't have a gun. That's just not gonna happen, but I have a gun in every room. Yes. So if I need access to one, I can get and only I I mean then my wife knows where it's at as well, but you know, I have one by the door, have one in the living room, have one in the kitchen, have one in the den, I have them everywhere. And I go out, I make sure they're maintained, I make sure the zeros are kept and all that. Because my biggest desire and biggest fear is a home invasion, right? I don't know if y'all saw the dirty civilian Christmas video this year where Santa got him a home invasion for Christmas.

SPEAKER_03: 39:55

It's the hilarious. I might have to go watch that. You should watch it. It's hilarious.

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It's the uh I think it's like the gift one. Like the where they do they go over like the shopping guide for the year one. It's it was great. It was real good. But it's kind of made me reconsider you know where the placement on those things are. Because where I live, I have a driveway that's about a hundred yards before you get to my house. And it's uphill. I can see you from the road the entire time you're coming up. I have a you know notification system when you come in my driveway and all that, right? And my and my kids know they are not to answer the door. Only an adult is it is allowed to answer the door if someone makes it to the house. Because sometimes people just like hop the gate and come up to my house. Because, like, to be honest with you, the gate is just like an illusion of safety, it's a it's a suggestion, pretty much more than anything. If someone wanted to ram through my great gate, it would not be hard, right? But it gives that it's that that half second of should, you know, do I ram through this thing that gives us a little bit more time because by that time we've already been notified that somebody's in the driveway. But anyway, it's so my kids knowing that they don't answer the door, but it's made my wife a little bit more cautious as well. Because we went we were talked about it earlier today, and I was telling her the summary of it. I didn't go over the details because she didn't need to know all that. She doesn't need to know the evil that's out there, like she knows I've seen enough of it, she doesn't need that burden as well. Yeah, and she's got to worry about the kids, and I don't really let it's not that I don't let her, but I try not to encourage her to go out with the kids to go shopping or anything because it's too much for her, right?

SPEAKER_03: 41:37

To keep eyes on everybody else out there because they're while while chasing your kids around, yeah, you know.

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So if she needs to go shopping, I've got the kids if she wants to go do that, or I can go do the shopping for her, and she just sends me a list, which is always a horrible idea, anyway, because she always leaves stuff off the list, and then she doesn't answer my text.

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And she wouldn't well let don't even get me serious.

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Y'all know, y'all know exactly how it is. But it's just a matter of like me trying to help protect her from those things, not giving her the burden of having to know the extent of the evil out there, but we had to have this conversation because a lot of packages are coming in right now, yeah. Whether we're giving it to the kids or we're giving it to other people, or I'm shopping for myself because no one else knows what to buy for me. So with the amount of delivery we've had, you know, these things that she has to be aware of these things. So we went over it earlier today, and she like immediately it's like not even 30 seconds every we the driveway alarm went off, somebody's in the driveway, and it's Amazon coming up the driveway because I left the gate open because I just got home, right? It's just and so that she's all you know high alert for what's going on, but the the the first, so we'll go over the story here in a second, but there are some indicators immediately that someone should have known something was wrong, right? Something was not, something was some some bad things.

SPEAKER_03: 43:13

Like there being three of them, yeah. Like UPS guys during the holidays, sometimes you see two UPS guys, right? You never see three. Yeah, not seeing UPS truck and they're all black. I mean, I wasn't necessarily gonna say get to that, but okay, yep.

SPEAKER_02: 43:35

Like how many, like you see one black UPS driver? Okay, yeah, I get it. See two of them together, three of them together. Come on, Matt. So let's uh let's bring up the story real quick and then we'll watch a little bit of the front at the beginning of the video.

SPEAKER_03: 43:54

What was so I did not hear about the story until like last week or a week and a half ago. It was two years ago. We yeah, it was two years ago, and it happened in the in nearby where I grew up, like on the other side of the Twin Cities, but you know, still like in the metro area I grew up in. So, like when it says a Fridley man, like I know where Fridley is. I've been to Fridley many times, you know, and like you your state just keeps taking L's, man.

SPEAKER_02: 44:23

Oh I know, I know. All right, so let's let me let me read it for those of y'all that might listen. A Fridley man who has posed as a UPS driver and killed three people in front of two young children last year. So this is this happened in 2023. January 2024. Yeah. Was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole on Thursday. Last week, Alonzo Pierre Mingo was convicted on eight accounts in connection with January 24 triple homicide in Coon Rapids. Two counts of first degree murder, premeditated, three counts of aiding and abetting, blah, blah, blah. Let's see. As previously reported, Anoka, is that pronounced? Is that Anoka County dispatcher received an open line 911 call and heard sounds of disturbance? That's vague. I make sounds of disturbance when I'm in the bathroom. They sent law enforcement to a home near Springbook Drive in 94th Avenue Northwest, where they found three people dead. 42-year-old Shannon, Patricia Youngworth, probably, her husband, and her son, who's 20 years old. In addition to the deceased, police also found two young kids who were present at the time of the homicides. A poll camera across the street from the home captured a blue Nissan Ultima. Can we be a little bit more stereotypical? A Nissan Ultima, huh? The Ultima Americans. Parking in front of the home around the time of the murders. Three people, two of them were dressed as UPS delivery drivers, went into the home with a cardboard box and left seven minutes later. They killed the husband and the wife and the son in front of the two girls. Like the two girls saw it happen. Yeah. Over is a robbery. Right? Like it's how easy would it be just not to answer the door. You know, but you also have to worry about you have to fortify your doors as well. Your door is held up by one and a half inch screws into a two by four. In the hinges and in the the latch, you have to upgrade those.

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It can be as easy and simple as putting three-inch screws in.

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Exactly. That's all you have to do. Take those one and a half inches out, put in three-inch screws, and then it's a lot harder to kick in your door.

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There, there's YouTube videos where it like with one and a half inch screws, it takes like two kicks with three-inch screws and like professional like SWAT, the the the whatever the SWAT uses to break down doors. It takes like five minutes for them to break down the door with three inch screws.

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We used to test busting down doors with how light of a marine could we do to throw into it to bust through it. Like we put a helmet on them, they got their plate carrier on. We would have a couple guys just pick them up and throw them into the door, you know, and that and that's all it took, just throwing them into the door, and that was and they bust right 130-pound marine busting through that door everything, every time being thrown like a dwarf. That's all it took. Wow, it doesn't take a lot. That's the first thing. Every house I've bought in the last 10 years, the first thing I do is change out all the screws and all the doors.

SPEAKER_03: 47:44

I just love how every one of these episodes I find a new way the Marines measure something by. Every single one.

SPEAKER_02: 47:55

Well, the way there was a common rule in the Marine Corps that if you put a bored Marine in a closed room with no doors, no windows, in a concrete ball and came back in an hour, that concrete ball would either be broken or pregnant. So let's uh let's play the beginning of the video real quick so y'all can kind of see how this went.

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So this is the this is the channel I get I guess most people are watching it on. Give me a second here.

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I talk too much to smoke a pipe.

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You can go to for the people.com slash midwest crime.

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This example we had a sponsored by Midwest crime and is ne what did you say?

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I didn't know we had a sponsor. No, not yet.

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Ever been seen by the public before I got it.

SPEAKER_02: 51:14

Yeah, so the immediate where to start. The the immediate thing that you should notice is there's two UPS drivers. At that time of year, there's never two UPS drivers. They don't have the time, they don't have the manpower to do that. They're already struggling, they're already working 15-hour days. And then that they didn't leave the package, right? And not only that, but they didn't try and give it to you in the driveway and for you to bring him back yourself.

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Yeah.

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That was another issue.

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Like that these all should have been indicators. The uh the second guy standing out of sight of the door, uh, you know, over there, that's sketchy, obviously. The fact that his face is covered up.

SPEAKER_02: 52:01

It is not hard to get a UPS uniform.

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In fact, last probably I'm online right now.

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Yeah, I was in an antique store and they had a UPS jacket. And I was like, man, how easy would it be to just grab one of these and act like that? I'm a UPS guy. You know, and you can do the thing by FedEx, police, you know, water, you know, who some utility company, an orange vest. You just have an orange vest, say you're from the the power company, and people just open their door to you. Right? And you need to be aware of your surroundings at all times. Because the time of uh being living in a high trust society is gone. We don't have that anymore anywhere. Because it's creeping in even into the areas this is Amazon. Good lord.

SPEAKER_03: 52:54

Not exactly what the real uniforms look like, but but most people wouldn't know.

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Yeah, you know, if a hundred not even a hundred dollars they could have a uniform so they could be able to pose as a delivery driver. And their delivery drivers are everywhere, you know, from you know October on. Like there's constantly delivers going on, and so people just let down their guard. And now, because of that, three people lost their lives and and two young girls don't have parents anymore.

SPEAKER_03: 53:27

Another another indication was where's the truck? Yeah, yeah, where's the truck? Yeah, what when they're walking up, they're asking him, so I don't know if you guys heard they go, they ask him, so you don't have no big dog, right? Because he's got that small puppy, they're like, You don't have a big dog. And he says, not yet, and they're like, Okay, no big dog then. Like they're they're gauging to see if there's a bigger dog in the house they have to worry about.

SPEAKER_02: 53:58

The turbo nomaries, turbo normies, as they've been dubbed here, are a result of a high trust society when you could just be a normie and not have to worry about these things as much. In most areas, like there are some areas like you know, the like New York City of the 80s, where you know you had to be very streetwise to survive, but most areas you didn't have to worry about all that because you lived in a very homogeneous and very trustworthy society. It's we're way past that now. And so I wanted to bring this up so y'all can see how this goes down, and so y'all are aware of it, and you're you've got your you know, your awareness up, you know, you're you're in that at least that you know when we talked about the ODA loop before, right? Yellow into orange, that area, right? Just aware and your alert to looking for things. Like you don't have to be switched on all the time where you're suspecting everybody, but at least keep your eyes open and look around. Don't walk around with your phone in your hand. Don't answer your door for every single person. Yeah, you know, my wife does not answer the door when I'm not home.

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Yeah, that's one one great thing about these doorbell cameras. Like my wife or my kids, they can respond to someone knocking through the camera, you know, and like all these different, you know, the the post office, UPS, FedEx, they all have different services you can sign up for where you get a summary of your deliveries for the day. You'll get notification if something needs a signature, yeah. So my my if if UPS knocks, my wife will know already if they're knocking just to let her know the packages are there, or if they're knocking because the signature is needed. Yep. Right. So it if a signature is not needed, you don't need to answer that door. Watch them on the camera, drop it off, you know, tell them on the camera thanks if you want, and then once they leave, then open the door.

SPEAKER_02: 55:54

Exactly. You know, like and it's kind of scary with the with the US Postal Service one because they'll tell you what's in a letter and it's not opened. Like they have x-ray technology that will read a letter, and they know exactly what's in these letters that's coming to your house now, and that's part of the Patriot, is where that comes from. But yeah, I mean there's no reason, especially if you live in an urban area, to keep your to not keep your guard up. Because you're surrounded by a lot of people, one that they don't know you, and you don't because most people don't know their neighbors. Yeah, and you're surrounded by a lot of people who think of you as the other. You know, that's the to give you a story. My uh my parish on the west side of Birmingham is the murder capital of the world, of the well, not the world, but of the United States. It's it's like in the top three of the murder capital, but it's all black-on-black crime.

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Yeah.

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And we've had some parishioners who have thought it would be a good idea to see if they could get a house down there because they want to be close to the parish, right? And it's you know, they're cheap. You're looking at like$70,000 for a house uh because it's in a bad area. And we have, you know, me and a friend of mine who's you know goes to our parish using federal law enforcement, have had to like have us sit down, talk with these guys, and have a come to Jesus moment. Like, brother, it doesn't matter that you know you think you can protect yourself, it doesn't matter that you stay at home all day, you know, because you're you work from home. What the issue is is you have a different skin tone than 99.9% of the people that live around you. And when things get bad, you're the first target. Exactly. You are the easiest target. That's all they care about. But they don't want to hear it. You know, like, well, you know, sometimes we gotta live in dangerous places to be near the faith. I'm like, brother, you ain't gotta live near the parish to go to mass there. Nobody lives near the parish. We already like the community already meets mostly, you know, 10 miles down the road anyway. But you know, some people just make bad decisions, man. Thankfully, nobody's down there yet. Thankfully, but they're getting close. There's some people who are getting closer and closer.

SPEAKER_03: 58:22

Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's weird because Coon Rapids where this happened, like what a name of a town, by the way. Never never even hits me because you know, I'm just you're used to it. I grew up with it. Yeah, it's uh it's it's an outer ring. At least when I was growing up, it was a really outer ring suburb. Those are you know, we're 10-15 miles away from Minneapolis. But you know, of course, now with with Urban Sabral, like they're not really outer, outer ring suburbs, and even if they were like they're you know, they're not uh they're not homogenous anymore, that's for sure. They were when I was growing up, yeah.

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Yeah, and when you bring in a hundred thousand Somalis who take over an entire area as well, and then that's not even the part where they're at, but yeah. But then that but then that pushes those people out that were in that neighborhood where the Somalis are to other areas, yeah, 100%. Which is the same thing that happened, like in you know, my around my parish, it used to be heavily German and Italian. And then in the 80s, when all the businesses and and in industry started moving out of Birmingham because they started going outside the country or to Mexico, a lot of those jobs were lost, and people had to, you know, move to where the jobs were at, and a lot of low income people moved into those houses.

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Yeah.

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Because that's all they could afford, and that you're you know, still decently well kept at the time. You know, as you you were in a constant state of migration. You know, because an area that was nice 15 years ago is now not nice, you know, because of the economic conditions that have happened since then and just pushed certain demographics into that area. And it's happening everywhere. And now we've been importing our own demise for the last 25 years. You know, basically since 9-11, they've been importing nothing but third world populations into the United States in order to destabilize and change the voting dynamics. So it I just wanted to bring that up and show that to you guys so you can be aware of some of the horrific things that happen out there and you can protect yourself and your families from it better. In a situation like that, having a firearm by the front door is probably a good idea, right? Just being prepared for something like that. And you can have it in a stopbox mounted to the wall if you want, or on a dresser or nightstand type furniture right by the front door, you know, something you have access to. There's a lot of times I don't answer the door without at least having something in my hand because I don't know who these people are. You know, and if you made the trek to come up my driveway and get over my gate, like I'm coming at you as a suspicion. You know, but a lot of y'all that live in urban areas, you're gonna have a whole lot more foot traffic around you than I do. So you've got to be prepared for those things. As far as what then would be you know, your kind of your your rules of engagement, do brandishing is against the law. So don't show the gun until you're ready to use it.

SPEAKER_03: 1:01:50

That's that's one thing a lot of people who who don't care and aren't used to the the laws surrounding that don't realize like if if you're justified in showing that weapon, you are justified in using it to end someone's life, legally speaking. And so if you're gonna pull it, shoot it.

SPEAKER_02: 1:02:09

And shoot to kill, right? Or you know, because the last thing you need is some robber that you maimed suing you for maiming him, right? You you you shoot to remove the threat.

SPEAKER_03: 1:02:23

If you're gonna shoot, if you're gonna get sued, it might as well be for wrongful death. Yeah.

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So I just I think that one hit hard for a lot of people when they saw it and saw what it left behind, and a lot of people aren't prepared for that, but that's not the first time I've heard that. That's not the first time I've heard of an invasion as somebody, a home invasion of somebody who dressed up as a delivery person. Yeah, we don't we don't want to abide by the uh Joe Biden rules of engagement around here. There is no such thing as a warning shot. The only warning shot is when I kill him and his friends run away. That is a warning shot.

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So just because you might have been justified like legally according to the criminal code, does not mean someone cannot come after you in civil court. Yeah.

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And not only that, but if you live in a high in a very high density blue area, you likely have a DA who was put in with contribution funds from Soros who are looking the other way against minorities committing crime and then and then prosecuting people for self-defense, rightful self-defense. Like I think I've told the story before, but I took a concealed carry course with a local SWAT officer here in one of the local municipalities around Birmingham, and he told, and he works in a highly Democrat area, and he even said he's like, if you ever have to use your gun in Jefferson County, which is where Birmingham is, he's like, You better have a good lawyer. He goes, Yeah, he's like, I don't even care if you're in the right, that DA is coming after you. It's terrible. You just have to be aware of that and be ready for that, and that's why you need carry insurance.

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Are we talking West Hollywood, Florida, or West Hollywood, California? I can see it in Florida. I could that could happen in Florida, but you he kind of look like a Florida man. I'm I'm never going to California. My nephew lives in California. I make fun of him and his dad all the time for it. You will never catch me dead. California is wasted on the Californians, like they don't deserve the weather and the nature out there at all. They're ruining everything out there.

SPEAKER_03: 1:05:47

I mean, honestly, apart from LA, like the you know, the city of LA, and apart from the politics, the state itself is like a paradise.

SPEAKER_02: 1:06:01

Yeah, I mean, that's why like I went up to every time I go back to Louisville, I go back home. Because I grew up in Louisville until I was like 24. And I joined the Marines like a year after that. But every time I go back, I've always had nostalgia. Like I go back and I'm like, oh man, like I went around showing all the kids, you know, where I grew up, my old haunts, my parish I went to, and all that. And I'm like, every time I go there, I'm like, man, I would love to move back. Like I would love to move, you just because my family's close, and you know, just it's very Catholic there. Well, Catholic name, it's like it's very Democratic Catholic. But but then my wife had to go into a a uh drugstore to get some hairspray, and she had a couple of and I'm like circling the block because we're downtown and there's no parking, and I just have to keep circling the block with the kids. And she comes back and she tells me like three scary stories in five minutes. She was in there. There's like pride flags everywhere and Black Lives Matter shoestrings and being sold and all this. I'm like, nah, I'm good. I think I'm gonna stay in Alabama. Like, I don't think I wanna mess with all that. Yeah, can't blame, can't blame me there. We love you. I don't personally attack you at all. It's all in love, is what it is. It's all in love. If I didn't like you, I wouldn't make fun of you. I don't know why y'all watch the show.

SPEAKER_03: 1:07:36

To be fair, it's to be fair. It's not like many do.

SPEAKER_02: 1:07:40

I know we got we have literally dozens of faces.

SPEAKER_03: 1:07:43

No, no, no, no, we don't. We have literally one dozen watching right now. We have 12 on YouTube. On YouTube, we've had 115 on my Twitter, apparently. They're all watching Anthony talk with that stupid ortho Cleveton antiquity guy right now. I believe that antiquity guy.

SPEAKER_02: 1:08:05

Yeah, nothing has interested me less lately than church drama. I'm right there with you, man. Like I just don't care anymore. No, I go to mass, uh raising my kids in the faith, and it's all we're all really care about. Uh yeah, like all this drama about stuff. Like my wife, like I asked my wife the other day, I was like, queer dang quick. I asked my wife the other day, I was like, hey, did I see something correctly? Did did what's his name? Blake Shelton become Catholic? And she's she looks it up, like, yeah, apparently 2018 when he married Gwen Stefani. It's like, oh, okay, that was the end of it. That was the extent of our talk about that. Like that was it, you know. Oh, that's nice for him, you know. That's it. I don't have any desire, like, well, I wonder if he goes to a Latin mass. And no, no, no, no, I don't care. You know, like that's between him and God. It's just the the church drama's gotten so blank. Like, I watched y'all's show with uh Mark Lambert and uh Catherine Catherine, yeah, what was her name? Bassett or something? Bennett, Bennett, sorry, Catherine. I did your name wrong. And I like them, and I'm sad for them because of Gavin Ashington, but isn't that the truth? But I think Catherine's a little bit more aware of things than Mark is down the path of some stuff, and Mark is still very much vetted for things, right? And I was listening to it, it's like, oh Mark, oh Mark.

SPEAKER_03: 1:09:45

Like his reply to when I was talking about uh humanism and stuff.

SPEAKER_02: 1:09:50

Yeah. He was like, well, actually, what Lumengensium said was like brother, they could say whatever they wanted lumensium, but that's not what they put into practice. What they put into practice is what they want lumengensium to say. And it it's just aware, it's just strange to me that so many people that's that's basic common sense. If 2,800 bishops voted on all the documents at Vatican II and then went home and implemented something completely different than what was in the documents, one, they either didn't read the documents that they signed, which is a dereliction of their duty as a bishop, or two, they didn't care what was in the documents at Vatican II because they were they got the the word to go back and do what they wanted when they got back home, or three, the documents in Vatican II were explicitly worded in such a way that when they went back, the implementation is the interpretation.

SPEAKER_08: 1:10:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 1:10:51

I mean, look at look at Lefebvre number three. Lefebvre signed the documents, he was fine with the documents, and then when he saw what everyone everyone actually wanted to do with the documents, he was like, Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, no, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_02: 1:11:04

You know, like well, then like Fulton Sheen, he was a huge proponent of Vatican II, all about ecumenism and all about the new liturgy and everything. But supposedly he had a little you know turnaround a couple years before he died. Yeah, he's like the things have gone way too far. Who knows? I don't know, but you know, he was not the same after Vatican II as he was before at all, which is why you don't see a lot of recordings of him after Vatican II, you know, because there people don't want to, and he had his own diocese at the time up in Rochester and all that, but it took the the world by storm.

SPEAKER_03: 1:11:50

I wanted to bring this up with them for good reason.

SPEAKER_02: 1:11:55

You will get arrested for having the wrong opinion and voicing it.

SPEAKER_03: 1:11:58

That's true. Like they they do have to be careful having modsly on.

SPEAKER_02: 1:12:04

Not only that, but but what that's going to do is that's going to push them to violence a whole lot faster than us. Because you're going to have a lot of young men there in England who are white, who have been told they're horrible for being white their entire life, and that London is not their city anymore. It's now London and stand, right? And they're going to be angry and they're going to find no recourse in the institutions that they're supposed to be able to turn to. So they're going to turn to violence. A whole lot faster. Because what we have for us is the freedom of speech and the second amendment. And that kind of slows us down a little bit on that trajectory. Because we have some recourse to some other things for a long time before we have to get that's why nothing's been done here either. Because one, we still have bread and circuses going, right? You if you with all the stuff that was going on in Minnesota the weekend, it still wasn't trending. Maybe that was on purpose, maybe it was removed from the trending list. But what was trending was football. Football, yeah.

unknown: 1:13:12

Right.

SPEAKER_02: 1:13:12

That is bread and circus. And I love football. I love college football. I don't like professional football. But I don't as long as the average American can still take his one vacation a year, doesn't have to worry about where his food's coming from, and can watch football on Sundays, he will never revolt. When those things start to be taken away, then people will start to revolt only until they're restored. They will never do it to correct the system.

SPEAKER_03: 1:13:48

I mean, and we gotta remember, like this was this this was true in the American Revolution. Right? 97% of Americans did not fight, did not lift a finger during the revolution. Nope. And the three percent who did unfortunately kind of did it for elites who stood to profit from it in the end. But anyways, that's a different point.

SPEAKER_02: 1:14:11

But have you ever seen the like it's like an 18-hour docuseries of Europe of the last battle?

SPEAKER_03: 1:14:21

I mean, I've heard of Europa of the Last Battle, but it's 18 hours.

SPEAKER_02: 1:14:25

It's 18 hours, it's like 18 one-hour episodes, pretty much. Well, apparently they did a one and a half hour like condensation of it. Condensing of it? Condensed condensation? Did I just make a uh condensing of it? What I think we'd have to do it on X only, though we couldn't do it on YouTube, but we should do a review of it, we should watch it and maybe show some clips that you and I saw and maybe do a review of it.

SPEAKER_03: 1:14:58

It's interesting because it's one of those things that you're I'm still kind of conditioned to want to stay away from, you know what I mean? Like even though even though some questions have been raised in my mind, obviously, and have started to go down the path, it's like I don't know. I hear about I hear it, I'm like, I don't know, guys.

SPEAKER_01: 1:15:27

This might be what turns me. I don't know how I don't know if I can do it.

SPEAKER_02: 1:15:33

Yeah, I get, I mean, because you're you're quite a bit more educated on the history of the troubles of World War II than I am, we'll say, right? Specifically the baking mechanisms of World War II. Baking, yeah, you know, cookies. There's not enough ovens to cook all them cookies, man. But uh because I I'm I'm in the same boat, I'm scared to go down that route, right? Because it's like once you see the monster, you can't unsee the monster. That and like I don't know.

SPEAKER_03: 1:16:16

Part of me just thinks like we're still just so close to it chronologically, you know, where maybe we we we still uh find out new things and and have to rewrite narratives about events that happened too, you know, 3,000 years ago. Yeah, you know, I think it's kind of silly for anyone to think they have all the answers about a really controversial event that happened 80 years ago, and that so I'm skeptical of of anyone that says they have you know the answer no matter what side that answer's on, yeah, at this point, but but I I wouldn't watch 18 hours of a book. Maybe I'd watch an hour and a half.

SPEAKER_02: 1:16:59

Yeah, I'd watch an hour and a half. Like that's the biggest thing for me. Like the 18 hours, like man, like I'm I'm pretty J pilled, but I'm not 18 hours J-pilled, yeah. Like that's like it, it's that's just not gonna happen. But I'll watch an hour and a half, you know. I'll sit, I'll like I'll watch that with the wife. We'll sit down, you know, I'll rub her head, you know, get some popcorn, nice wine.

SPEAKER_01: 1:17:21

Yeah, you know, make it romantic, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 1:17:24

Maybe bring in the kids, let them watch it.

SPEAKER_03: 1:17:27

Daddy, what's an oven? But what's Einzatz grouping mean? Don't don't worry about that, son.

SPEAKER_02: 1:17:36

But I think that's all they put it out today. So I'll send you the link. It's on Odyssey. Rumble took it down, like Rumble only. Rumble took it down, rumble took it down. So that's like, yeah. I mean, there's a low link for it. It's on Odyssey, and I'll put the link in the uh in the group, the telemark, the telegram chat as well. For those of y'all that aren't in the telegram, get in the telegram. It's it's we have some fun over there. Probably a little bit too much fun. Probably you might want to. If you are scrupulous, you might not want to go to the telegram. But we do we put a lot of deals over there that we find. For instance, I just saw a deal for a Hutzwerks 556 K can that was like 900 bucks.

SPEAKER_03: 1:18:17

I haven't seen really that's three or four hundred dollars off.

SPEAKER_02: 1:18:21

Yeah, it's the yeah, it's like it's like five hundred dollars off if you buy in most places five months ago, right? But now you can reliably find it for about 12, 50, 1300 bucks, but yeah, it's about 900 bucks, and so you know, if you bought it now, it wouldn't get there till after the first, and then you don't have to pay the tax stamp either.

SPEAKER_03: 1:18:40

I right most places you have to pay the tax stamp when you order it.

SPEAKER_02: 1:18:44

No, you don't pay it till you regure it. Now, most places, if they have it in stock, yeah, you're doing it all at the same time, right? But if you buy it, have it shipped to your FFL, it it the tax step isn't applied for until you you get there and you apply for it. Interesting. So most pla a lot of places are allowing you to let they're just holding on to it till after the first, so you don't have to pay the fee. And there's gonna be a huge backlog, so there's gonna be some time. It's not gonna be like a three-day turnaround like my last one was. Yeah, you're probably gonna wait, but they are and they are using AI to get through them faster, which is good and bad.

SPEAKER_03: 1:19:24

Um not sure how I feel about that one.

SPEAKER_02: 1:19:28

Well, they've been doing that for like a year, that's why they've been getting through them so quick. So we're already in it. But it's uh there's a lot of good deals in the telegram chat, a lot of good topics come up, you know. Just it's very active, I would say. So make sure y'all get over to Telegram and we'll I'll have Rob post a link so y'all can get into it.

SPEAKER_03: 1:19:52

But pull that up now.

SPEAKER_02: 1:19:53

We also have the competition finishing up for this month. We've had a few entries. We've had less entries because it's cold and guys don't like to get out in the cold because they're sissies. But we've had a few entries. The challenge this month is a is a bill drill after some push-ups. And it's timed. So the prize is your yeah, all two of two of them. So basically it's a two-man competition right now. But right now, the prize is I buy you, you're avoiding Babylon merchandise of choice that you want. I still have to send you. One last month. Yeah. I still have to send you Joe's. He sent it to me. I just gotta get it to you.

SPEAKER_08: 1:20:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_02: 1:20:40

Um sorry, Joe. This has been a crazy month, man. But uh we do a company, and that's the competition, and it's really just to make y'all better and to get y'all out there in training. Next month, we're gonna do something not firearms related. Uh we're gonna do something we're gonna do something a little bit more bushcraft related. So that'll be fun. That'll be fun. So for those of y'all that can't get to a range, it'll be good. I had someone ask earlier, why don't we get locals? Because there's not enough people that like us.

SPEAKER_03: 1:21:13

I mean, we haven't even gotten a thousand people.

SPEAKER_02: 1:21:16

We need a thousand subscribers first before we can do anything like that. I thought about doing a patch, like a Velcro patch. There's a few guys on Instagram who do really good patches, so I might inquire about that. At no point is this thing ever going to make money for me. Like, I have no desire for this thing to make me any money. This is a hobby, I do this for fun, and so I will never do this to make money whatsoever, so don't expect that. Yeah, this is way more niche than avoiding Babylon. Like, we're we're picking up all the guys from Avoiding Babylon who just like guns.

SPEAKER_01: 1:22:01

That's pretty much what it all came down to.

SPEAKER_02: 1:22:02

So far, there's 350. But what I'm also gonna do in January is we're gonna do a we're gonna do a hangout stream where y'all can pop in and we can talk about some stuff. That'll be fun.

SPEAKER_03: 1:22:14

I you gotta get Chris Christopher back on.

SPEAKER_02: 1:22:18

Yeah, we'll have yeah. I will never open an LC. And it's more because I don't want it to interfere with my interfere with my real life job more than anything. Uh I just uh it's it'd be too much of a headache to to gets to be a lot. Yeah, I have no desire. This is just for fun for me. I and this is just a good way for me to get talk to like-minded people, get talk to Rob about stuff, and you know, not feel like I'm crazy for thinking the things that I think is really what this is. Y'all are my therapy, pretty much is what this comes down to. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03: 1:22:50

Oh my gosh, Bill. Anthony from Alabama. It's exactly what he says. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 1:23:04

I don't. I don't. Like, I'm scared to go down that route because I know where it's going to go. I know exactly where it's gonna go because I already see all the mile markers going down. I just haven't gone down the road yet.

SPEAKER_03: 1:23:19

Yeah, like we have the map, right? We have the directions. Pilgrimages to Waco. Oh my god. First off, Ruby Ridge would probably be a better first one.

SPEAKER_02: 1:23:31

We'll go to the Mount Hur Refuge up in was that Washington State. But what we are gonna do, well, we it's gonna be fun. Late spring at my property down here in Alabama, and I'll I'll put out some more details about it probably after the new year, probably into January. We are going to do a campout and shoot at my place for a couple of days. I've got some acres down here, we've got some pasture, a pond, and a bunch of woods. We'll do a campout and we'll do some shooting. I'll teach y'all some stuff. If anybody else, you know, is more familiar with firearms than I am. Maybe y'all can teach me some stuff. You can bring your whatever you want to shoot because we live in the land of the free down here in Alabama. And then maybe we'll get a we can find a priest to come down and give us a talk and maybe hear some confessions and maybe do a mass or two.

SPEAKER_03: 1:24:27

I don't know a priest that has both a desert eagle and an AK Mart Mark 23 that he could bring.

SPEAKER_02: 1:24:34

Yeah, see, yeah. So that'll be uh that'll be probably you know it late April when we do that because I think Easter this year is the end of March. So I'll try and time it to where it's not around any type of major feast day or anything. Yeah, there's no I don't want y'all to be here to have to do that.

SPEAKER_03: 1:24:54

We should uh try to gather as many different examples of of carry guns, home defense, you know, basically have a plethora, a cornucopia of firearms that people who maybe don't have any are looking to buy their first could try.

SPEAKER_02: 1:25:12

Yeah, and it'll be it'll be limited, like it'd probably be limited to about you know maybe 25-30 dudes. And there's gonna be a there's gonna be a buy-in, like it's gonna be like 25 bucks to do it because I'm gonna feed y'all while I'm down here, and this doesn't bring me any money, so I'm gonna need some money from y'all to feed you. But it'll be good, it'll be fun. Look, I'll start putting some details about that in January. Yeah, man, I can shoot better than all of y'all. I'm not worried about it. Yeah, y'all come on down.

SPEAKER_03: 1:25:50

Bad.

SPEAKER_02: 1:25:54

No, never. That's not gonna happen. Let's see. I do not have any preacher. I that's because I don't have a lot of family that I really keep in contact with anymore.

SPEAKER_03: 1:26:07

Yeah, see, that's what see Anthony has what eight brothers and sisters, and he he talks to them all. That's the issue, yeah. Right? The less you talk to your family and see your family, the less drama you have now. Is that a good way to live?

SPEAKER_02: 1:26:25

I I don't really talk to my family very much, and it's mostly because I just well, I don't live near them. One, but two, like we're in a different place than they are when it comes to our values. A lot of my family just I they cuss too much to be around my kids, or you know, they drink too much, or I you know, the ones I don't know well enough, I don't like I'd have to be around them a little bit more to make sure I could trust them around my kids. Because my kids are why I do everything I do between my wife and my kids. If I don't get them to heaven, I'm not doing anything right. So the reason I'm into guns is to protect my wife and my kids. The reason I know how to do everything I do with firearms and bushcraft and you know small unit tactics is because I want to protect my wife and my kids. I want to make sure that they're taken care of because that's my duty. And I can't be around people that I don't fully know to make sure that they aren't imparting some of their horrible values into my kids. Um you know what? Hick libs is not a thing in the South. It's like West Virginia, you know, like Asheville thing.

SPEAKER_03: 1:27:42

There's a lot of I wouldn't call them hicklibs, but more like your blue dog democrat types up where I am, right? Because like all the old miners up here were all historically Democrats, because the the the unions, like a hundred years ago, yeah, unions really did actually help out miners, yeah, not die on the job, right? So they they became indebted to the unions, and then unions became indebted to the Democrat Party. So now you have all these people who are just like, well, like how so many people are culturally Catholic, they're culturally Democrat. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_02: 1:28:18

Yeah, I've got an uncle like that who's super Democrat, and he gets made fun of by the rest of the family because of it. But and in fact, like I just he's one of those ones where like I just don't want my kids around you, you know, you know, like I just don't want them to see that, you know, like to learn that mindset at all because it's it's nihilistic and it's it's just not worthwhile. But yeah, we don't really have hick lips down here because like if you're down here and you're a hick, it's because you are a hick. You don't have the benefit of being able to really put on that culture as a skin suit.

SPEAKER_03: 1:29:01

Yeah, there were there were a lot of Croats up here, you know, who were Catholic, uh Croat, Slovenians, things like that. Like with the the first the uh the X the X comments are coming through. Yeah, it is nice to see that. Our first the the first priest for our local parish ever is uh was a Slovenian, and he's up for sainthood. Oh um well he's on the he's on the path to it, but yeah, so a lot of Croats and Slovenes up here, but it's a mix of like I said, of them being feeling indebted to the Democrat Party because of the mining unions, and then half the population up here is transplants from you know they're they're hippies from the cities who came up here for the nature, right? So half like and because but the mining, so much of the mining is dead now, the only businesses that remained and that are now thriving are you know the the businesses that are doing stuff with the nature, the canoeing businesses, the camping businesses, yeah, things like that. So it's really kind of rewritten the demographics in the area, unfortunately.

SPEAKER_02: 1:30:10

Yeah. Yeah, I get that. Yeah, because down here we have I mean, you just have a lot of just working class folks down here. You know, I I work in a much different demographic of people, you know, people who are a little bit more financially put together, but a lot of my the people around my house, like my neighbors and stuff, you know, they're multi-generational farmers or you know, cattlemen or something. You know, I in fact the guy who I have who does my all my plumbing work around my property because it needs a lot because everything was the previous owner. Apparently, thought he could do every trade that there was, and there's a lot of jerry rigging going around here. But hey, hey, it's racist. Hey, I can't be racist against my own people. But he's like a fourth generation plumber and also a fourth generation cattleman. He raises like 40 head of cattle every, you know, as a just because that's what they've always done, right? You know, and it's a lot of that, but we have some transplants that have come from Birmingham who you know like they want a better quality of life, but then they get here and they like they're trying to vote the way they did in Birmingham, and they get immediately shut out for it. We had a guy running for city council here who was you know very urbanly indoctrinated, we'll say, who was trying to incorporate that stuff, and he did he got like one percent of the vote. Really? He got like 17 votes out of like a thousand. It was he just got completely shut out because people don't deal with that here. Like if you can't, if you aren't willing to work, they don't have any respect for you in this little town I'm in. Yeah, you know, and they just don't care, you know, that you know, you you come from an area that's more progressive or whatever, where you have better ideas. Like they've seen what that's what that's done to other parts of the country, and they want nothing to do with that here. Uh, you know, because Birmingham's, you know, what especially the west side of Birmingham is real bad. It's heavily black, it's heavily black on black crime that happens over there. But that's because majority of the people over in the west side of Birmingham are on on welfare, and so they don't have to worry about their needs day to day, and and so they can do whatever they want, and they do a lot of crime because of it. Um all right, so what questions y'all got about anything? I don't know if we even have any questions. Let's do some questions real quick because I still need to capture on some sleep, so I think I'll cut this in here in a few minutes, and I know let's see, we had one earlier, but I think we've got to it. Uh, let's see. We haven't anybody that's still watching, we have like one person watching or something.

SPEAKER_03: 1:33:04

There is on YouTube there are 17. Yeah, dozen and a half almost.

SPEAKER_01: 1:33:11

Literally, there are dozens of us.

SPEAKER_02: 1:33:16

Man, we went to see David in the theater. Have you seen it? Angel Studios David. Go see it. It's good, it's good, it's worth seeing.

SPEAKER_01: 1:33:28

I don't like Angel Studios though. Yeah, I get it.

SPEAKER_02: 1:33:32

I get it. But this it was it's a good movie for the kids.

unknown: 1:33:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_02: 1:33:35

I thought it was just gonna be about like David and Goliath, it does not. Um, like it goes quite a bit further into the story, it goes into his his complicated relationship with Saul. It's a very it was a good movie, it's worth seeing. I will say that. Um But uh the kids liked it, and it it had some songs in it, so it was like a Disney singing movie, too. But the kids liked it. So I'm not gonna begrudge him. I mean, wait to watch it at home if you want to. I don't care, but watch it. It's worth watching. It's it's wholesome enough to watch.

SPEAKER_03: 1:34:08

Anthony always really gives me to watch movies.

SPEAKER_02: 1:34:12

I only watch movies for the kids now. Yeah, I really want like I haven't watched that. What was that movie y'all were y'all he was talking about the other day?

SPEAKER_03: 1:34:19

The gun knives out or knives out the third knives out movie. Yeah, and you you watched that, did you? I yeah, I did.

SPEAKER_02: 1:34:25

Was it worth watching? It was pretty good, actually. That that was a long pause.

SPEAKER_03: 1:34:31

That was a long pause. I never I wouldn't watch it again, and I'm I wouldn't go to a theater to watch it. Yeah, wouldn't I watch it if I wasn't? You wouldn't pay to watch it. No. I mean, that's it. That's the thing, it's on Netflix. It's only on Netflix. I know you're not gonna get Netflix.

SPEAKER_02: 1:34:47

Yeah, so because I on Instagram it's nothing but like Stranger Things reels. I feel like I've seen like the whole season.

SPEAKER_03: 1:34:55

Yeah, I'm definitely not watching that coming up.

SPEAKER_02: 1:34:59

It's the first I like the first season.

SPEAKER_03: 1:35:02

We've watched a lot of Meat Eater. Oh, really? Yeah. With uh what's his what's his name? Steven or whatever. They're remaking the X Files.

SPEAKER_02: 1:35:13

It's gonna be trash, I know it. Somebody told me that HBO got the rights to Lord of the Rings. Really?

SPEAKER_03: 1:35:22

I was like, that might that might be good. Except Netflix is buying HBO.

SPEAKER_02: 1:35:28

Part of the Paramount dealer, right? Not good. No, not good. I recant my statement. Not good. I have you ever watched Freeman. Have you ever watched Grim?

SPEAKER_03: 1:35:40

Okay, so my wife and I are re-watching it and we're in the final season.

SPEAKER_02: 1:35:45

I love that show. It's I've watched the whole thing, it's super campy, it's like not really trying to take itself serious, like it's just a fun show to watch. I can't watch it with my kids because it's a little scary for them, but uh my kids don't mind it, but like it's the like the scare factor of a lot of them. Like, I don't want I don't need nightmares, you know. My kids are very spiritually sensitive, we'll say. Yeah, I don't think it's good for them, but Grim is a good show, and I do like Grim.

SPEAKER_03: 1:36:15

What place would I recommend up north that is good for access to the TLM? When you say up north, like do you mean specifically my neck of the woods, like northern Minnesota? Or do you mean just north in general? If you're talking northern Minnesota, I mean there's Duluth is the only TLM north of the Twin Cities in St. Cloud, right? So be within an hour of Duluth, I would say, but even I don't know. It's rough up here. I mean, I love living up here. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't wouldn't move back to the Twin Cities ever, but or cat for like faithful cat traditional Catholics, it's rough up here.

SPEAKER_02: 1:37:03

It's not that great in Alabama either. We have three Latin masses in the Birmingham Diocese, one in Birmingham, one in Huntsville, and one in Coleman. The one in Coleman is a traditional monastery. They're not allowed to be a parish, though. So you can't register there, you can't get any of your sacraments there. Uh well, as far as like you know, first communion and all that. You can you can go to confession all day, every day, and you know go to mass and all that. But um but in Mobile, which is very Catholic, they have one Latin Mass, and it's the first and third Saturday, because Archbishop Roadie, who was our Archbishop before the the new guy from Milwaukee came in a couple months ago, he got rid of all of them, which were just shows because those come out. So it's it's not that great here either. Now, the good thing is where I live, I'm about an hour and some change away from the St. Francis de Sales in Mapleton, Georgia, which is the FSSP in Georgia, and then I'm probably an hour and 40 minutes from the SSPX in Roswell, Georgia. So if something ever happened to my parish, I could go to either of those.

SPEAKER_03: 1:38:25

The roughest thing about the being at Trad up in northern Minnesota is that your one TLM option is diocesan, survives on a dispensation from Rome, so that could be taken away at any time. And you know, they have one mass on at 1 p.m. on Sundays. And you you can't get traditional baptisms, you can't get traditional first communions, confirmations, right? Like, so for anything besides just mass, we have to drive the four hours to the twin cities. So it's that's the hardest thing for us, really.

SPEAKER_02: 1:39:03

For those of y'all who have access to the Latin Mass, especially the traditional orders, where you don't have to worry about losing them, you need to be appreciative of it. Because we we're in fear like every year of losing our diocese in Latin Mass. Uh, we have been since the traditional customs come out. So just be appreciative of what you have. Now, if I were to ever be able to appropriate the 200 acres that's around me, Lord, if you ever wanted to give me that acreage, I would give half of it to a traditional order to open up a parish here. In Jesus' name, I pray, amen.

SPEAKER_03: 1:39:43

To be fair, what do they need a hundred acres for?

SPEAKER_02: 1:39:47

Look, so they don't so they can use it for whatever. I don't care. If they want to do something like Detroit's doing with the shrine of St. Joseph, where they're basically building a community around them, yeah. So they bought up a bunch of those buildings and houses around. Them and are selling them to traditional Catholics. And they're selling a lot of the property to businesses to open up businesses for the traditional Catholics there. Right? They could do the same thing.

unknown: 1:40:10

True.

SPEAKER_02: 1:40:11

You know, they could yeah, it could be a rural parish. It could be like the you know, Catholic land movement shrine, you know, where they, you know, maybe it's like a education farm or something. I don't care. Just put a traditional order here in Alabama that's close to me. That's all I care about.

SPEAKER_03: 1:40:29

Fair.

SPEAKER_02: 1:40:30

It'd be SSPX, I don't care.

SPEAKER_03: 1:40:33

Yeah, the the one parish we have is not a personal parish. It's it's diocesan. They got a dispensation from TC, so yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 1:40:42

Like I the Latin Mass up at Huntsville is a personal parish as well. Um because they don't do any English mass at all. It's just Latin masses, and they are busting at the seams, and they haven't been allowed to they need to build a new parish and they won't let them for whatever reason. But they're standing room only five masses on Sunday. Wow, it's yeah, it's crazy. But it's also in a nice part of town, whereas my parish is in the murder capital of the United States, and so we don't get as many people coming out there as we could because we're in such a horrible part of town. No resident past three flies on every week, and even then think it's a bad idea to take that for yeah. So Saint Anthony Marie Clarette down in Destin is an SSPX parish that is in an office building. The mass is done on like a conference level on the second floor or whatever. We've been there once, maybe twice. And people there, when we go there, they're very nice to us every time we go there. I've never had never had but anything but good experiences there. And their pastor flies down from Maryland. Wow. At least he did when I when the couple of times I've been. It's funny because my my daughter, one of my daughters, and my son got first communion early because when traditional custodians came out, we were afraid that we weren't gonna be able to get the traditional right. So my daughter received first communion at five. And we went to mass there the summer after she got first communion. So she was still five, and she had her veil on, and we went up to the you know altar veil and we're receiving communion. And the priest is coming over, and he you know, just told us he'd been he flowed down from Maryland and all over. And he's he's going to get he gave me communion. He goes to her, he's like, Does she receive communion? I was like, Yes, father. And he goes, Oh, that's fantastic. And gave her the you know, she's a tiny five. Yeah, she looked like a four-year-old, right? And he was just excited for her. Whereas, like, I go to other parishes and they like they're like they're shocked and they're like insulted that she was receiving communion at five. Like, this isn't a like a prize to be held back until someone earns it, right? This is this is freely given. And we should be.

SPEAKER_03: 1:43:40

I'm a lads and supremacist for sure. Have you ever heard of a fluffer nutter? Is that that stupid peanut butter and marshmallow sandwich? Yes.

SPEAKER_02: 1:43:51

I've never heard of it in my life until I went camping with my daughters to with AHG and someone there offered it up. Look, it's a good idea. I'm gonna recognize it. No, I'm gonna eat it. Dude, no, yes, dude. We are gonna eat the fluffer nutter. We're gonna take the fluffer nutter, we're gonna put it on white bread, and we're gonna love their fluffer nutters. No, I am are there's no such thing as a friendly set of a contest. Like I've never married met a and maybe because my only experiences with them online.

SPEAKER_03: 1:44:35

There's definitely no friendly online ones.

SPEAKER_02: 1:44:37

Yes. I bet if I met them in person, but it's the same thing with with the Latin mass population. A majority of the people in my parish are not on social media. If they were, they'd have a much worse opinion of me, right?

SPEAKER_03: 1:44:53

But they're that's kind of just everyone, though. I mean, you get blocked by a lot of people. Oh God.

SPEAKER_02: 1:45:02

But so if I ever met a set of a conference in real life that actually goes to mass and abides by the faith, I bet they are charitable. But the online ones, I've never met one ever in my life. I've never interacted with one, I've never had a decent conversation with any of them. And like I've seen the conversation like for instance, like the the conversation Anthony had with what was his name, Kevin from Family Podcast, whatever it is. Something like that. Something like that. Uh sorry if I'm getting the name of them wrong, but he seems like a nice guy. Never had a conversation with him, though. Right? But the fact that he stands out is the issue because none of them are charitable or give the benefit of the doubt at all whatsoever.

SPEAKER_03: 1:45:52

Well, the Orthodox are the same way. Like I've met and I've met plenty of like old, you know, Russian women, you know, old Russian babushkas who are lovely, lovely orthodox people. Online ortho bros, nope. I mean, apart from Christian Mario, they're all almost to the letter terrible.

SPEAKER_02: 1:46:12

And even Christian Mario, after we raised all that money for him, decided to lambast Catholics. He's not perfect, but I still like him. He can take it and shove it too. Are you blocked by him? I don't think so. I don't really interact with it. Just Wagner. Just Wagner. Wagner because he didn't like me doing an AI picture of him taking a selfie.

SPEAKER_03: 1:46:43

Not everyone gets your your humor, Adrian.

SPEAKER_02: 1:46:48

He's got he's got the skin thickness of wet toilet paper. He just doesn't know how to take a joke. It's sad. It really is. I mean, the sad part is like he was the one attacking people for like like blue-collar values.

SPEAKER_03: 1:47:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 1:47:09

And then you're and then like you get offended and block somebody immediately. Like, you're not proving your point, buddy. Like so, yeah, that was that's the second time I've been blocked by him. I can't remember what the first time was. I think the first time was when he first converted from Anglicanism, and I said something to him, you know, like he because he wanted to have authority already, whatever. I think that was the first time he blocked me, but this last one was the best one. Definitely worth it.

SPEAKER_03: 1:47:41

You know, you've been blocked a good fair number of times when you like that was the best one. That was the best one right there.

SPEAKER_02: 1:47:46

Like sometimes when I get blocked, I was like, I deserve that one. That was a good one. That guy did a good thing right there. He needs to get me out of his life. Uh let's see, confirmation and infancy has been done in the Latin writing countries with high mortality rates. Okay, I believe that. I think the tide of sewage aimed at children makes infant confirmation as I it so here's my thinking on it. Confirm we should not be withholding grace based on age. And we should also that that that that comes to the Eucharist, and that comes to confirmation. I understand the reasoning for waiting for confirmation till you know 13, 14 years old, wherever you're 15, whatever it is. But I think I took my I got mine at like 15 years old. You know, I understand that, especially because you're you're basically knighting a soldier of Christ. Yeah, right. I get that. That's where the smack comes from and all that, right? But with the amount of temptation we have out there, we do not need to be withholding grace and the sealing of the Holy Spirit from anybody, which is why I'm not for instance, like Taylor Marshall had a video a couple of years ago talking about how St. Louis only got the Eucharist like once a year.

SPEAKER_03: 1:49:17

Yeah, it was like I think six times a year, but yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 1:49:20

Yeah, and then St. Pius X is really the one who normalized getting it, you know, much more frequently. I think St. Pius X saw the amount of debauchery that we were going to be entering into, and we need all the grace we can get. Like, you know, Sunday Mass for me, for those video game nerds of you, is me getting my health potion again every Sunday. Right? Filling up all three of my hearts again, like in Zelda, right? Like I that is that is what it is for me because I need all the health to get through the week. Like I struggle to get to Sunday without strangling somebody. Thankfully, it's never my kids. My kids are angels, but it's other people, right? Like and like I need all the help I can get. I think St. Pius X saw that. And I don't think we need to be I don't think we need to be withholding that from anybody. Uh we should be partaking in the Eucharist as often as if not daily, if you can.

SPEAKER_03: 1:50:25

I can see I can see both sides, both sides of the argument. Well, well, for all of it, but especially for that one. Like I think you're you're you know, if you're a devoted, faithful Catholic, you know, that is well catechized and and it is devout, then yeah, daily communion, like you said, it can in that case it can't do anything but help. But for say maybe your average cradle or cultural Catholic, right, who when you receive Easter and Christmas, you're probably receiving in a state of mortal sin. Well then, you know, I I think in that case, you know, you need you need to build that devotion to the Eucharist before you're ready to receive it, you know, often.

SPEAKER_02: 1:51:19

I get that, but that but what you're trying to do is you're trying to protect people from accountability, right? They they are responsible for eating their own damn nation.

SPEAKER_03: 1:51:30

Well, no, I I agree with that. I I agree with that, but it's it's one of those things like when when it's limited or when you don't have access to it, right? Your your heart grows fonder for it in a sense.

SPEAKER_02: 1:51:44

Yeah, yeah, it so I'm gonna give you all a quick reversion story for me. So when I came back to the faith 2015 or so, I came back and I was at that time, I think we were married like seven years. And when I came back, I I got some really bad advice from a priest who basically told me, Hey, I know you're married and you didn't get a dispensation, you're really in a in an invalid marriage, and so you're sinning every time you know you uh enjoy the marriage act with your wife, but that'll be between us and you can receive the Eucharist anyway. Really? And so that didn't sit well with me. And I was like, that doesn't sound right. And so I sought the advice from a much more traditional priest. Now he was he's not a Latin mass priest, but he was a much more orthodox priest, and he basically told me, Well, you're going to hell, and if you don't get this corrected, you're that you're never gonna get off that path. You need to get your your marriage convalidated or you know, radical sanction, which would we end up doing. And so from that point on, I never got the Eucharist again. When I was like, that sounds correct to me, that sounds hard, which is what Catholicism is to me. Like it was the hard path. That sounds so if it sounds hard, it sounds right, and so I didn't receive the Eucharist ever again. And then three year until three years later, when my wife came into the church, she came into the church and we got our uh our marriage, we had to do a radical sanation, right? Which is basically they went back and investigated our entire marriage and and and validated it from the beginning, basically, uh, instead of doing a convalidation where basically I started over, and like, oh, now you're married now, right? Like so the last eight years didn't count. This is now your marriage, but I went without it without the Eucharist for three years, and that first time that I knelt and I received, I was crying like a baby. It was like it, and I don't cry, like my dad died, and I didn't cry because it just like I just expected it, whatever. Because I didn't cry when he died, but when I received the Eucharist, I cried, and so yes, the the waiting for it, there is something there, and I think you know the absence makes the heart grow fonder, but I also think because the massive amount of temptation we have out there, the amount of grace that you receive from going to mass, especially with young kids who are crazy and acting like wild feral animals at mass because that's they're kids, yeah. The amount of graces you're getting just from that, in addition to receiving our Lord into your body and becoming a walking tabernacle for 15 minutes, is helping us to fortify us against the temptation because these little black boxes are sending people to hell every day.

SPEAKER_01: 1:54:52

In fact, I was on Twitter the other day, or actually, you know, I can't call it whatever it is Twitter video, I will dead name it forever. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_02: 1:55:04

I was watching a video and I just started scrolling through videos, and then like four videos in, porn started popping up, and like I never look at that stuff at ever. So it's not my algorithm, it's what it's trying to shove on me, yeah. And so then, like, I'm getting off of it. I'm like, did I did I linger too long? Do I need to go to like I'm now getting scrupulous, right? I'm like, do I need to go to confession now? Like, because I didn't recognize what was going on and I didn't get off of it. So that and they're feeding that to us because they want us to see that stuff, because they want us to go to hell, because they want us to be miserable like they are, and so we have all this temptation around us. We should be receiving as much reinforcements as we can, and that's why I'm a big fan getting all three of them at birth. If I if I could have done that for all my kids, I would have. I've only got one kid left that hasn't had their first communion. She's five, she'll turn six next month, here in a couple weeks, actually. You know, but she's still got another year before I can get her in the first communion, and I hate that for her because I wish she could do it now.

SPEAKER_03: 1:56:16

Yeah, like my my oldest Maddie turns seven in a month, right? But be you know, based on when they start preparation for like it, he'll be eight, right, before he ends up receiving it. Like it's been ready for a year already, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 1:56:40

Yeah, my I mean, my daughter's five, she could get it now. She knows exactly what it means because we talk about it all the time. You know, like every Sunday is like, you know, we'll talk about what we talk about, the homily or whatever the feast day was that day. And like my kids are aware, we make sure to talk about those things, and and like my daughter is educated enough down to where she could, but she has to wait just because it's an arbitrary number they've pulled out that it has to be seven years old. I mean, I mean if I pushed for it, I think my parents would let me to do it, but I I think some of it, some of the hangup for me is like she's five, but she looks four and or a big three, you know, because she's just so tiny, yeah. But and I don't want to have to answer those questions all the time, you know, and and like I think it might just be easier on her if we just wait, just wait till she's seven.

SPEAKER_03: 1:57:31

Yeah, like yeah, my second child, he he turns five next month, and I mean he just is starting to grow to 3T stuff, so he is really small too, and like when he's seven, he's gonna look five. Whereas my six-year-old who's about to turn seven looks like he's nine, right? Um so I whenever we go to mass, especially someplace new, I'm always like making sure he doesn't accidentally get yeah, you know, doesn't get an accidental first communion.

SPEAKER_02: 1:58:04

Yeah, yeah. Oops, so I guess we gotta do it every now. You know, do it all the time now. We jumped into that one. I think this means it's time to schedule your prostate exam.

SPEAKER_01: 1:58:15

This is what that means.

SPEAKER_03: 1:58:16

This is what Vor's nipples thinks.

SPEAKER_02: 1:58:29

I can't believe that guy's trying to make a comeback. It does not surprise me in the slightest. I can believe it, but you can't believe that it looks like a more people aren't seeing through it. No, it's gonna work, which is what's really disgusting. Yeah, in six months he'll be right back into it. Yep. It'll be like nothing happened.

SPEAKER_03: 1:58:49

Lila Rose will have him on before Easter. I'm betting on that.

SPEAKER_02: 1:58:53

Matt Frab will have him on back for the reckoning. And they will they will excommunicate Taylor Marshall again. It's just man, I just I'm just so done with it.

SPEAKER_03: 1:59:10

I don't understand how people like didn't see through him to begin with, let alone still are not seeing through him.

SPEAKER_02: 1:59:18

I mean, I think uh the first time I heard his voice, yeah, this guy's put on an act. This is because of his voice. And then I heard him talking on that voicemail, and then I realized his voice is an act. Like that's not his real voice, that's not how he talks. Right. At least that's not how he talked on that voicemail.

SPEAKER_03: 1:59:37

To be fair, I could have gone my whole life without ever hearing that voicemail.

SPEAKER_02: 1:59:42

I really could have. I've seen some horrible things in my life. I've seen a lot of things I never want to see or even see a second time, or even hear a second time, and that's up there. That is definitely up there. One of the one of those things I never want to hear or see ever again. But it I mean, it just shows that. That this is just about money for him. Like he never had a an exit plan. It was like social media fame or nothing.

SPEAKER_03: 2:00:09

Well, it was probably acting or nothing, and then the acting fell through. So this is probably plan B, which he's probably had to use a few times. Sorry.

SPEAKER_01: 2:00:34

I'm not laughing because it's right, it was not good.

SPEAKER_02: 2:00:39

Yeah, I I really shouldn't have laughed at that, but it's true. He probably has had to use it, or he's he's made someone use it a few times. I've got no problem with Taylor Marshall being wealthy whatsoever. I don't have any problem with anybody being wealthy. As long as you're doing something with it. You know, and Taylor Marshall does.

SPEAKER_03: 2:01:03

Like y'all may not know this, but hasn't made his money on a non-profit.

SPEAKER_02: 2:01:09

Right? I mean that his is all from books and his YouTube channel. Yeah. But he also does a lot with his money for people who need it. We'll we'll say that. I know for a fact he helps out a lot of people uh that need it. So I have no problem. But and he's a like I don't ever watch his channel anymore. I haven't I haven't watched it in a probably in a couple of years. I'm just not interested in that content anymore, but I will always take up for Taylor Marshall forever and always. He's I know for a fact some people he's he's assisted and how how he's helped them, so I will always look out for him. Uh he's always been a good guy every time I've talked to him, and like you know his character, you know his character because the amount of people that come after him, he never goes after them to defend himself. No, even when voice of reason came after him, right, or anybody else, he never he never gives them the time of day and defends himself.

SPEAKER_03: 2:02:22

Even in in like private messages with him, like he makes a few more jokes about about some things than he that he does publicly, but yeah, he's still never like bad mouth anyone in any private message I've been with him.

SPEAKER_02: 2:02:40

And that he he really is like the on-rap to traditional Catholicism. Right? He's he's like the he's he's like I hate to say it, but he he's in that same level as Jack Pasobic. Like he's like your first interaction with actual Catholicism.

SPEAKER_03: 2:03:02

Yeah, I didn't know anything about Jack Posobic until like the last couple of years, though. Yeah, well, Jack uh maybe maybe if you're big into the mega scene, right? Then maybe Jack is, but like I don't know.

SPEAKER_02: 2:03:15

Yeah, but most people in the magazine, their first interaction with somebody who's actually Catholic is Jack Pasovic. That's what I mean.

SPEAKER_03: 2:03:22

That's that's what I mean.

SPEAKER_02: 2:03:23

Yeah, so but I was never really into the the mega scene, so but and that yeah, but because like tri Taylor Marshall is your first interaction with for most people with traditional Catholicism, and that's just because he's the most prominent, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03: 2:03:39

Like, yeah, he's if you if you search TLM on YouTube, you're gonna get his videos.

SPEAKER_02: 2:03:45

It look, I'm gonna give his best books he's ever written are his Rome the Eternal City, The Jewish Carpenter, I think is what it's called, and something else. Like his first three books are the best books he's ever written. His sword and serpent stuff is fun. My kids love it. Yeah, I like the fiction stuff. But like uh Infiltration, not even in the top five of his best books.

SPEAKER_03: 2:04:15

Did you read the uh Antichrist in the Apocalypse? Or I think that's what he said.

SPEAKER_02: 2:04:22

Yeah, I was on the I was on the launch. I've been on the launch team for almost every one of his books in Vilch.

SPEAKER_03: 2:04:26

I thought that was better than Infiltration for sure.

SPEAKER_02: 2:04:28

Yeah, yeah, it was it was it that one reminded me of Scott Hahn. Yeah, and how he wrote it. It reminded me a lot of that. But his three best books are by far his what his three first, especially if you're wanting to introduce just Catholicism to someone. The Jewish Rabbi, the Jewish Rabbi is his is the first one. Jesus the Jewish Rabbi, I think is what it's called. But if you ever want to introduce someone to Catholicism, those are the three best books to give them. Someone who's just inquiring about it. But you know, I'll never you'll never hear me bad talk. I even though like I disagree with them on stuff, and I think he's a little milk toast on some topics. I'll never bad Dale Marshall ever. He's done more good for this community. He's got he now, he's had some faux pas. Like his, I don't know if you remember that video of him about the dream he had. Like, yeah, that was really I maybe would have kept that one private. Yeah, he needs to wipe the internet of that one if he can. But other than that, like you know, he's he's been pretty on point with a lot of stuff, you know. But like Francis, like Michael Matt. For a like before the the 2020 election, he was idolizing Donald Trump, yeah, and it was really weird, and now he's not. So, like everyone has their low points. You know, mine is usually around 80s rock, but for most other people, you know, it's usually due to decisions they make. But you know, everyone has that, so like I don't hold it against any of them.

SPEAKER_03: 2:06:19

I'm pretty sure your low point was your emo phase button.

SPEAKER_02: 2:06:23

I'm gonna I'm gonna find y'all some pictures of those days.

SPEAKER_03: 2:06:26

You do need to find me those pictures.

SPEAKER_02: 2:06:28

I'm gonna show y'all. I had long hair, like down to my shoulders, and I had a lip piercing, I had a tongue piercing. You're shocked now. I see it.

SPEAKER_03: 2:06:43

No, no, I mean I I was never emo or anything, but my wife was, and I always had a thing for like the emo girls, like the scene girls.

SPEAKER_02: 2:06:54

So especially like it was an easy transition into the Marines because like the first couple of years I was a Marine, like the the the big booty goth girls was a thing.

SPEAKER_03: 2:07:10

Which is when when did you join the core? What year?

SPEAKER_02: 2:07:13

2005.

SPEAKER_03: 2:07:14

Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 2:07:16

So they like a year and a half before was when My Chemical Romance came out with her, uh, the Black Parade album. Yeah, yeah. It was like it was like 2003-ish, I think, is when it came out. Uh might have been 2004, right before I joined. But that was man, that talk about some nostalgia from the emo songs.

SPEAKER_03: 2:07:36

One of the uh the first dates I had with my wife. We went to the warped tour. Nice, yeah. She got so sunburned because she's a she's like 90 Norwegian, right? From Minnesota, pale skin is all hack, and she uh to put sunscreen on, spent six hours out in the sun. She got so sunburned that she had she she turned scaly, like not just blister, but then scaly. Yeah, was delirious for three days from like sun sickness and had those tan lines from what she wore for three years. It didn't it didn't tan her skin, it like it cloaked her skin with radiation.

SPEAKER_02: 2:08:29

Uh I uh the one of the first tour, the first concerts I went to was after the 2000s was Incubus and Hubistank. And then I come to find out that was one of the first concerts my wife went to. Was that same tour, right? When we got married, I was right before I deployed in 2011. There was a like an outdoor fest in South Carolina, and like Skillet played as I lay dying. No, was I lay no, wasn't as I lay dying. Who else was there? Man. Oh, it was a female band. Flyleaf was there. Trying to think of who else, but I got so burnt because I had like a cutoff sleeve shirt, you know. Yeah, I was there with my wife, and I got so burnt, and I deployed like two weeks later. I still had sunburn two weeks later because I'm putting on my pack to go to Afghanistan. Oh, yeah, it was it was a rough couple of days when I first got there. But yeah, man, like like I I'll listen to it now. Like we I went to Creed last year. We had Creed came to Birmingham with three doors down. Did you have you seen what's happened with the singer from Three Doors Down? Uh-huh. He's got like stage four cancer, man. He looks like he just walked out of Auschwitz. It's it's bad.

SPEAKER_03: 2:10:01

Well, hold hold on, hold on. Narrative Auschwitz or real Auschwitz?

SPEAKER_02: 2:10:08

Narrative Auschwitz. Okay. Yeah. Like Chandler's list, Auschwitz. But I didn't know, I didn't know he was doing he uh he was so we went to the Creed concert and it was at the Oak Mountain Amphitheater here in Birmingham. And but when like Three Doors Down legitimately was a better show than Creed. Than Creed? It was just a way better set. Uh and Creed came on, it was like a lot of pirate. It was, it was great, you know, it was Creed, you know, but Three Doors Down was much more personable about his set. It was it was a lot better. I mean, I but I was killing uh so I was driving up from Kentucky. This is super boring to y'all. I know this, but I was driving up Kentucky and I was just going through like a 90s like alternative rock stream, like it. I was listening to like Pearl Jam and Creed and I can promise you, and you you probably won't admit to this, but I promise you that you listened to Photograph by Nickelback, didn't you?

SPEAKER_03: 2:11:15

I love Nickelback.

SPEAKER_02: 2:11:19

I've never been on that I hate nickelback train ever. I love no nickelback train. Look, they're about the only Canadians I like.

SPEAKER_03: 2:11:32

Brian Holdworth and Kennedy Hall.

SPEAKER_02: 2:11:35

Sorry, guys. I like I like Kennedy, he's good, dude. I don't watch the stuff anymore because it's all on Pelican Plus, and I like I just never go to Pelican Plus.

SPEAKER_01: 2:11:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 2:11:49

Yeah. But yeah. Canadians are few and far between that I like. Few and far between. Like I don't even like I don't even watch any of Brian Holdsworth's stuff. I just can't, like, I don't have the time. What about Pantile? I will listen to Pantile. I will listen to him occasionally, but he's like he's like a year one to three Catholic type of listen. Like you have to be like just newly into Catholicism to really appreciate what he's putting out right now. I don't think that I don't think I don't think Sean has I just said I don't like you.

SPEAKER_03: 2:12:28

I don't think Sean is even the only Canadian. Oh no, he yeah, he wasn't he is a okay. He is the only Canadian. An Ottawa.

SPEAKER_02: 2:12:50

I used to I used to listen to My Chemical Romance driving around all the time. I lived in Fort Myers Beach for like a year before I joined the Marines. And man, the amount of emo coming out of my car. Ocline Trio was like one of my favorite bands. I like Pelican Plus. I've liked a lot of the some of their stuff they've like their advent stories were good and their Christmas stuff was good. Just as far as like their consistent content, like you know, Kennedy Hall and Koznewski and all those guys, I just don't have the time to listen to their stuff. You know, I I've I've cut back a lot of my podcast time and have to really prioritize who I listen to now. And some of this is some of what I listen to is because I need to listen to it, because it keeps me abreast of current events. So I don't really get to listen to a lot of stuff that I want to listen to all the time, and I don't drive as much as I used to because I have an office and I don't I'm making everybody come to me now, but so it's it's really cut down to it. So a lot of that stuff goes to waste for me, but for instance, like they had the Queen. What is it? Queen of the Universe. What was that? The one who do the Ephesus album?

SPEAKER_03: 2:14:06

Uh Bened the Ben Benedictines of St. Mary.

SPEAKER_02: 2:14:11

Is that the Benedictine? I thought it was like Benedictines or the Queen of the Universe or something.

SPEAKER_03: 2:14:14

No. Um they they do Christmas at Ephesus, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 2:14:18

Christmas at Ephesus, Avenue at Ephesus, all that Benedictines of Saint Mary. Like I had those streaming basically for like a week for the kids and everything to listen to. They loved it.

SPEAKER_03: 2:14:28

All I'm gonna say on the topic is I no, I was too involved with it to give a fair answer to that question.

SPEAKER_02: 2:14:39

Yeah, I get it. Yeah, I don't I don't expect you to answer that, but I've liked it, and I didn't expect to like it. I thought it was gonna be stupid and gay, but it's it's it's worth the money, I would say. I don't look I don't listen to or read a lot of Dr. K's stuff, so he might be withdrawing a lot of people there, but not me. I'm not the reason. He's not the reason I'm drawing I'm drawn to it. But like but I say that, and I just bought a Dr. K book this weekend. Which one? It's his new one about the the priesthood and laity. That's what I read was there was a really cool little Catholic bookstore in Louisville I found while we were there. And they had like a little chapel in there, but they had one of his books in there. But they had some like they had a nice arrangement of books, I'll say that. They had Timothy Gordon's Case for Patriarchy right next to like Peter Creft. Like it was it was like they're hitting everything in there. Yeah. Yeah, I'm a big pre-55 guy too. I think if we ever revert everything into the Latin mass, needs to go to the restore the 54. Especially Holy Week. But a lot of the octaves and stuff that were lost after 54 is a big big issue for me. I think it it really waters down the liturgical year, the amount of octaves and ember days and stuff that we've removed out of the calendar. For sure. I think in my opinion, and we'll finish this because I know it's getting late for everybody.

SPEAKER_03: 2:16:18

You said uh yeah, an hour ago you said you were.

SPEAKER_02: 2:16:35

I think a lot of Americans don't realize it, but they want us to be, and I think they they want a reason to be Catholic. And I think if we have a lot of men who are willing to stand up and be unashamedly Catholic, then it's going to draw a lot more people to the faith. And I think we're gonna start seeing that. I think we're slowly going to start seeing occasionally like a bishop here or a bishop there who allows like one more Latin mass in their diocese or one more octave to be celebrated throughout the entire diocese and encouraged to celebrate, or you know, things are slowly going to happen, and you're going to start seeing men especially seek out the suffering that the redemptive suffering in Catholicism and attach themselves to it, and it will be attractive to many more people, and then you will see women start to follow because women always want to follow strong men, right? And and I, you know, for myself, I was never as as strong of a man until I had a reason to be strong, and that was for my family. And once I realized that I had to be strong for them, my wife fell in line. Yeah, right. She she no longer because my biggest concern for my girls is the curse of Eve. Like they're all I have one daughter, I know I'm gonna have to, I'm just gonna have to quell at her because her desire to be the boss all the time and to lead all the time and be right all the time is is just so prevalent that I'm gonna have to figure out a way to help humble her to where she that's not gonna be an impediment to her in the rest of her life. But when I stepped up and I took responsibility for everything, good or bad, right? That is when my wife accepted me as her as the leader of the household, and now she and it's a hard burden because everything's my fault, whether I did it or not, right? Because I'm the leader of the household. If something bad happens to my family, it's my fault. Yeah, and that's hard to accept, right? And it's hard to be accountable for that, but it's also freeing to my wife because now she can relax a lot more to make decisions on the household that she needs to make as the you know educator and the homemaker. She doesn't have to worry about paying the bills, and she doesn't have to worry about earning the money, and she doesn't have to worry about all the day-to-day decisions that I have to make that is now a burden on me. You know, so that allows her a lot more freedom because she doesn't have to worry about this stuff anymore. So no. All right, we are going to cut it now because for real this time. For real. No more Midwestern goodbyes. We're gonna go straight to an Irish goodbye and say goodbye.

SPEAKER_04: 2:20:09

Amen, wish death upon me. Blood in my eye, dog, and I can't see. I'm trying to be what I'm destined to be. And bumps tryna take my life away. I put a hole in a dummy for messing with me. My back on the wall, now you gon' see. Better watch how you talk when you talk about me. Cause I'll come and take your life away. Many man, many, many, many, many, many men. I don't cry no more. Don't look to the sky no more. Have mercy on me. Now these scary cats putting money on my head. Go on and get your refund, little dummy, ain't dead. I'm the diamond in the dirt that ain't been found. I'm the underground king and I ain't been crowned. When I rise, something special happen every time. I'm the greatest. Something like Ali in his prime. I walk the block with the bundles. I've been knocked on the humble, swing the axe. When I rumble, show your cheeks what my gundle Got a temple, loser, go ahead, lose your head. Turn your back on me, get clapped, and lose your legs. I walk around, gun on my waist. Chip on my shoulder till I bust a clip in your face.

unknown: 2:21:26

This beef pain.

SPEAKER_04: 2:21:33

Many, many, many, many, many, many wish death upon me, Lord. I don't cry no more. Don't look to the sky no more. Have mercy on me. Have mercy on my So where am I? Have mercy on me.