US Special Ops Captures Venezuelan Leader Nicolas Maduro

Headlines said Maduro was “bagged and tagged,” but the real story is what a three-hour operation in Caracas revealed: reach, timing, and a strategic shift that blends energy security with raw deterrence. We walk through the sequence, the unusually vivid footage, and why a mostly dark skyline points to non-kinetic capabilities that matter far beyond Venezuela. This wasn’t a slogging war; it looked like a precision police action with global implications—and a very deliberate message to Russia and China.

We unpack the oil piece with clear terms. Venezuela’s heavy sour crude and the Gulf Coast refineries built to run it are part of a long, complicated history that started with U.S. engineering, detoured through nationalization, and now loops back into strategy as reserves sit depleted and supply chains look shaky. Energy isn’t an afterthought; it’s the backbone of readiness. Regaining reliable access to heavy sour hardens the U.S. against wider disruption and raises the cost for adversaries considering mischief from the Caribbean to the Pacific.

Power politics also came roaring back. We test just war claims against what’s publicly known—legitimate authority, just cause, proportionality, and a tightly bounded timeline—while admitting the limits of open-source certainty. Then we widen the lens. A revived Monroe Doctrine logic is taking shape: reduce external footholds in the hemisphere, push back on Chinese listening posts in Cuba, encourage partners to rethink Belt and Road projects, and compress the space for foreign security patrons. That doesn’t guarantee peace, but it resets the board.

Beyond geopolitics, we keep it practical. Grid vulnerabilities are real, not theoretical; transformers, substations, and long replacement cycles turn small attacks into big outages. Preparedness beats bravado: carry what you can competently use, harden your home, build redundancy, and vet your information diet with the same discipline you apply to gear. If Caracas was a turning point, what comes next—energy flows, grid defenses, maritime posture, and calm decision-making—will decide whether this moment becomes stabilizing deterrence or a slide into entanglement.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Shock Morning: Maduro “Bagged And Tagged”
• 3:10 Night-Of Footage And Info Flood
• 6:50 Operation Framed: Police Action Or War
• 10:45 Message To China And Russia
• 14:30 Crime, Borders, And Narrative Debates
• 18:40 Oil Reality Check And U.S. Refineries
• 23:30 Strategic Reserves And War Timelines
• 27:20 Cuba Next And Hemisphere Strategy
• 31:40 Grid Blackouts, Cyber And EMP Fears
• 36:20 Infrastructure Weak Points At Home
• 41:10 International Law Vs. Power Politics
• 47:00 On Armchair Experts And Sources
• 52:40 Just War Criteria Stress-Test
• 57:20 Export Optics: Air Defense Embarrassment
• 1:00:20 Belt And Road Pushback In The Americas
• 1:04:00 Media, Influence, And Culture Riffs
• 1:10:40 Preparedness, Gear, And Training Philosophy
• 1:17:10 Personal Risk, Security, And Insurance
• 1:23:40 Audience Q&A: Petrodollar And Monroe Doctrine
• 1:28:20 Predictions, Next Moves, And Wrap

Transcript

SPEAKER_01: 1:32

Say what you were right a wand about it being right or wrong. The vibes are just immaculate.

SPEAKER_00: 1:38

You know, the the nothing ever happens people are on suicide watch at this point. It's uh man, it was I did not expect to wake up Saturday morning to see that we bagged and tagged Maduro.

SPEAKER_01: 1:53

So my kids have had the worst sleep schedules now since Thanksgiving, because there was Thanksgiving, right? So we didn't really have sleep schedules, and then we all got sick, so that they went out the window for that, and then Christmas and then New Year's. So we I don't know what time the kids went down on Friday night. All I know is I woke up at like 10 a.m. on Saturday, and oh boy, the world was different.

SPEAKER_00: 2:19

Yeah, we we we've been we haven't been sleeping well because of the new puppy, and so it's had some rough nights, and so I finally got to sleep you know, Friday night, probably like 10 o'clock, and then my the puppy gets up at like 4:30 and is like howling and whatever. My daughter has to take it out, so I'm up and I get up, like you know, I'll go use the restroom, come back. I'm trying to let my wife still sleep, so I close the door and I take my phone because I go I'm up now, I might as well stay up. Um, she never goes back to sleep, though. Like, I it's a it's a it's a losing fight. I like I'm trying to be courteous and let her go back to sleep, but she never goes back to sleep. She's she can't either once she's up, she's up. But so I start looking at my phone, and it's like it's lit, right? It all everybody's saying something. I got uh I watched the uh the uh not brass fixed who's the focus focus trip. I watched his stream forever, and he was delusional by the time he was done because he got home from the gym at 3 a.m. Right, and like five minutes after he got home is when it kicked off, and he was on for like 7 a.m. Oh he had planned to go to bed as soon as he got back, so he was delirious and it was crazy. And then so watching what happened, we had video everywhere, like we had like some of the best video I've ever seen, you know, for a nighttime, right? You know, from civilians as I'm watching it, like I kind of expect that for for an operation in a a heavily populated area, but then I was also thinking, I was like, why are we now getting videos of this stuff out? Because we haven't been able to get videos out of Venezuela for a long time, yeah, because they shut everything down, they shut up the access, and now we're getting it. So I was like, Well, that you know that's cool, and then just watching it all happen, then finding out, like, oh, they got Maduro and they got him out, and I'm like, we need in into the middle of a country, blew up everything we and then on the way out, we blew up Travis's right just for giggles.

SPEAKER_01: 4:22

I mean once again, I'm not gonna say that that's like morally right, but damn, it is funny.

SPEAKER_00: 4:30

Look, you know, I had I had an old, old, old, old colonel when I first went in. I got in in 2005, and he had retired probably 20 years earlier, and he came to one of our units to give us a talk because he did my job when I was in the Marines when in during Vietnam and such. And so, like, one of the guys was asked, like, how many people did you kill? He's like, I think I only killed like two people. Like, you only killed two people in Vietnam? He's yeah, I didn't count on the communists, not they're not real people, right? So, like, when did we start thinking, like, hey, it's not okay to kill our enemies? That's my big that I don't understand. One, we didn't if we went to war, that was the shortest war ever. Three hours of war. And if that's not proportional.

SPEAKER_01: 5:20

The hell was Waco. Well, killed more people, lasted way longer. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, if you if you're gonna call Waco a police action, then this was a police action, yeah, a far more effective action.

SPEAKER_00: 5:35

And we're I want to get into some of that stuff because everybody's like, well, this is a sovereign nation, and you know, we shouldn't uh, you know, we this is against uh just war theory. I'm like, bro, this what this didn't even apply. This was this was a at best in their mind in the just war theory critics right now. At best, it was a limited military engagement, right? But what it more likely was is just an operation other than war. We went in and we snatched up a dude who has been trying to destabilize the United States through Russia and China, through the exfiltration of all their most violent criminals through the southern border over the last 10 years and shipping unknown amounts of drugs, which they're using the funds from that to continue to further destabilize, try and destabilize the United States. I have no time for all these soft, sissy little girls who are out there talking about you know, we shouldn't have done that. I'm like, brother, you want a king? Right, and this is this is what kings do, they protect their people, right?

SPEAKER_01: 6:44

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00: 6:45

So y'all gonna see me get heated. Yeah, a lot's gone on. We've got the uh Tim Walls apparently is not seeking re-election, and he should resign, but he's more than that.

SPEAKER_01: 7:03

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00: 7:04

I don't know whether that if uh I know it's like the lieutenant governor worse.

SPEAKER_01: 7:08

Peggy Flanagan? So you know the protect. Yeah, that's the shirt. Yeah, yes, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 7:12

Yeah, yeah, that's that girl. Yeah, the protect trans kids shirt, that's her. Yeah, probably is worse. That happened. What else happened this weekend? Find out more about the Minnesota stuff, finding out it's everywhere still. We're finding out even more. What else happened? There was something else that happened. There was something else, wasn't there? Man, what was it? I don't know, it'll come up, I'm sure. But we got a few things. I want to talk about I want to talk about the Venezuelan op and how it went down. And what this was was a giant show of force saying we can get whoever we want whenever we want. And this was a shot across the bow to the Chinese and the Russians.

SPEAKER_01: 8:00

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_00: 8:01

Imagine all those poor Russian kids fighting in Ukraine right now when they were supposed to have a limited engagement over three days, and we went and did it in three hours. Yeah, and they're still fighting over there years later now. Was it three years later now? February would be three years?

SPEAKER_01: 8:17

No, and they and they're using all this the more or less this cold war era technology when Russia sold the the best you know of their technology to places like Venezuela and had it just absolutely words are hard, guys. You know, it it embarrassed itself.

SPEAKER_00: 8:50

Well, I mean, I I don't understand this statement. Like, what if I said that's reiterated what the government's told us at all? Like, do you think we don't have Trende Aragua all over the Midwest taking over apartment complexes and threatening people and killing people? Do you think we haven't snatched up thousands of Venezuelan criminals? Do you think we don't have drugs come across the southern border? Like, what do you think I'm believing that the government has told me?

SPEAKER_01: 9:18

Are you questioning the narrative for why we did it, or are you questioning the event itself?

SPEAKER_00: 9:25

Let's let's talk about the narrative real quick. So, the narrative, I'm gonna take Trump at his words. We did it for the oil. That's the reason we did it. Okay, and a lot of people are thinking, well, you know, that we're just gonna make the oil companies even richer so we can get access to oil. No, not necessarily yet. Yes, they're going to get rich. There's gonna be more money coming into these oil companies because they're the ones that have the refineries that can process it. Well, then the other objection is well, Venezuela has uh heavy sour and not light sweet. All of our refineries are for light sweet.

SPEAKER_01: 10:01

Actually, it's the opposite.

SPEAKER_00: 10:03

All of our refineries across the Gulf Coast are designed to handle heavy sour like Venezuela has.

SPEAKER_01: 10:09

And largely they were designed that way because it was American companies that discovered and leased and developed the Venezuelan oil fields. So we developed our infrastructure to handle that oil, and then Chavez, who runs his coup in 92, and then in the 2000s, nationalizes the oil fields and kicks out the American the Americans.

SPEAKER_00: 10:31

So I mean, and then it goes to crap because they don't maintain it, the infrastructure starts to crumble, and that's when they're not putting out anything right now. The Venice the oil infrastructure was taken by chop by Chavez. He's the one that initially nationalized it. Yeah, but why would we need their oil? Like we have our own oil, like we refine a majority of the world's oil because we're the only place that has the refineries to do it. Even Canada's falling behind. They have to send their art their us as well to refine it for them.

SPEAKER_01: 11:02

That's like the old Keystone pipeline, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 11:05

Which you know they blocked basically, and now that we've got Venezuela, we don't need Canada for oil anymore. So, but why would we need all that oil? Well, remember what happened about two years ago during the Biden administration when gas got to about$350 a gallon. Okay, and some places approaching four dollars a gallon. He started releasing millions of barrels from the strategic reserve. Then we found out he wasn't even releasing it to us, he was selling it to China. Okay, our strategic reserves are heavily depleted, and even when they are at maximum, they will supply the military, not the country, they will supply the military for a matter of days. So for whatever reason we lose access to oil, our strategic reserve will find will be able to maintain the military for only days. We need much more access to oil because we're trying to be prepared for what we expect to happen. And what we expect to happen is war, right? So for those of y'all that we've talked about Refuge Medical before. TJ Morris, he runs Refuge Medical. He also has a channel called Bear Independent. I highly suggest you go and subscribe to his stuff, go to Patreon, pay for the ten dollars a month, it's worth it. But he's got he's been saying the same phrase for the last seven months everything, everywhere, all at once. And what that means is when this finally goes down, it's going to be it's gonna be a world war, but it's not gonna be the world at war with like two different sides fighting each other.

SPEAKER_01: 12:43

No, it's gonna be the elites of every block fighting the other, you know, the elite from every other block.

SPEAKER_00: 12:49

Yeah, it's going to be dozens and dozens of engagements of small civil wars everywhere.

unknown: 12:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 12:57

And why do we why do we think that? Because you know, uh uh TJ over at Refuge Medical is very tied in with government contracts, and he has been noticing that the government has been buying everything, 10 times what they normally buy of everything, because they're preparing for war. That's why right now you can buy MREs for super cheap. They're having to get rid of all their old stock and bring in new stock because all the MREs out there now are going to expire in 2026. We expect to be in war by 2027. Those MREs are gonna last anymore. That's why it's hard to get medical supplies right now, even for hospitals. The government's buying them all. That's why the Palmetto State Armories their yeah, their ammunition uh factory had to shut down because they can't get the materials they need to make it because Lake City's bought everything. Okay, we are preparing for war, and it seems like with the implementation of what happened in Venezuela, that was the first uh step. We're trying to establish the Monroe Doctrine again. Do we want the Western Hemisphere to be us and us only? We're trying to kick out all the other influences other than ours outside of the Western influence, uh, Western hemisphere, so we can protect ourselves.

SPEAKER_01: 14:18

In Venezuela was a client state for Russia through Cuba. I mean, that's why you see Cuba saying 32 of their soldiers died in this attack because they were the personal security detail for Maduro. Why would Maduro have a personal security detail completely run by another nation? That's because he was a client of another nation. And we we don't want you know that on our doorstep.

SPEAKER_00: 14:48

Myself and and a few other guys who are pretty tied into what's going on, and I don't even know that much. Like, so I'm not acting like I know everything, I just tie into people who are smarter than me, who make good common sense when they talk about these things. But Cuba is probably next because one, they have a communist government there, and we don't want that anymore. But two, uh Cuba has two Chinese listening stations on the island of Cuba. One of them can intercept radio frequencies and other transmissions for up to 8,000 miles, right? Which would reach to just about Alaska.

SPEAKER_01: 15:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 15:27

Okay. Yeah. We're not gonna tolerate that. That's gonna go. We're gonna get rid of that. So I would expect Cuba to be next. And then maybe Colombia after that, uh, because Columbia has the same issues Columbia through Honduras that you know have the Darien gap. We're just tired of dealing with it. So we're just gonna close it. Now, the biggest criticism I hear is well, he doesn't worry about the constitution going after this guy. Why does he do this? Why does he worry about the constitution instead of the United States? That's a good question. I don't know. Why doesn't he have the balls to do what needs to be done to start arresting people here in the states? I don't know. It may be political blowback he's worried about. It may be he doesn't quite have a handle on things here, he doesn't have enough goodwill by the by everyone right now to be able to do those things.

SPEAKER_01: 16:13

We have way too many communist agitators here already, and stuff like that's a lot easier to justify and do when you're in a hot war with a foreign nation. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 16:27

So what one thing that came up during Trump's press conference, one comment he made that really stuck out to me was we had a little capability to be able to turn off their power. Okay, that scares me. Because if we can turn off their power, they can turn off like the government can turn off our power. Right. And if you watch the videos of the you know, the insertion and the attack, and they're taking out all the man pads and the radars and everything, most of Caracas is black. Yep. There are some spots here and there who probably have personal generators and things like that who stayed on, but most of it's black.

SPEAKER_01: 17:17

We didn't hit them with with the full like strike package, so it's not like we were bombing their power. Well, they get power from hydroelectric hydroelectric dams, so we didn't blow a dam, we didn't have you know, we weren't hitting substations. So the question then is why were why was everything black?

SPEAKER_00: 17:35

Yeah, and they have some type of capability to turn it off. Now, is that cyber where they did they hack into their grid and just shut it off? Did they use some type of targeted EMP? Do they have some type of zero-day exploit to get into the the transfer switches like we have here in the United States? All of a majority of our transformers and our relay switches are produced by China. And I don't know if y'all remember the story from I don't know, probably 10 years ago now. Lenovo, which was a heavy, heavily used laptop in the United States government, was found to have a bunch that they had keyword track keyboard tracking software. So anytime you typed anything on it, it was sending it straight to China. We had these all over the government, right? And that's what China does. They they put all these things in there in order to keep an eye on us, and and they're putting all these exploits in there. So that concerns me because we know through the EMP Commission that within the first 30 days of the power being out, we're looking at roughly 30% of people dying. And then within 12 months, 90% of people in the United States dying. That's a lot of people. You're looking at 350 million people dying over 12 months. And the best way to take over a country and still have the infrastructure intact so you can use it, because you don't have any natural resources of your own, like China, is just turn off the power for 12 months. And then most everyone will be dead when you come in. You can kill off the remaining 10% if you want to. Probably don't need to. Yeah. So that was the that was my biggest concern from that, is that his he's making it very public that we have that capability, which means he's not gonna be scared to use it again.

SPEAKER_01: 19:28

And it could even be who knows, it could even be somewhat a bluff, a bluff in that we had a human asset there to do it, and now he wants people to think we have the ability. But I I don't doubt that we have that ability throughout much of the world.

SPEAKER_00: 19:44

Do you see the story about Germany, 50,000 people without power?

SPEAKER_01: 19:48

A little bit. I haven't really looked into it much.

SPEAKER_00: 19:51

Germany, the German government is stating that it was German Antifa that sabotaged a substation of some sort, I think, and that and they're having to bring In the military to fix it. I guess they're getting harassed and attacked or whatever. I don't know. But that was the same thing happened in North Carolina a couple of years ago. They took some shots at a substation. All it took was a couple of 30 yacht six rounds to a substation, and the power was out for like 12,000 people. So they replaced it. Now it would not be hard to just have a handful of people in the city just go around shooting transformers. Because all a transformer has in it is oil. There's an 18-month backlog to get transformers. So if you have one go out, it's probably gonna take 18 months to replace that. Now they they have some in stock to replace ones that go out from storms and stuff, but once those are gone, you're looking at 18 months. That's a long time to be waiting for power.

SPEAKER_01: 20:53

There was an old man in our area who liked to feed the birds, and he would throw throw food scraps for some reason around a substation that was adjacent to his property to feed the birds. He didn't want the birds on his property, so he threw all the food scraps around the substation. And so many ravens were landing and frying themselves on the the substation that it knocked it would knock the substation out. And like the cops had to tell him, come and tell him if he continued to do it, he would be arrested.

SPEAKER_00: 21:24

But that's how easy it is to go to the substation. I saw a video the other day of a of a dad and a son hunting deer. And he shot the deer. When he shot the deer, it went through the deer and hit a power pole and hit the line on the power pole and blew all the power out.

SPEAKER_01: 21:43

Crazy.

SPEAKER_00: 21:44

Yeah. So I uh yeah. The the blizzards, we had a we had a blizzard of 94. Was ours now in Alabama they had 93 the year before us. In Kentucky, it was 94. We got 27 inches. I don't know. And Kentucky's not used to 27 inches. We get like five or six inches, not 27. But yeah, I mean, just little natural disasters like that. Someone made a comment a second ago. I want to bring it up. The sewage. So yeah, I mean, if the administration goes to the Democrats, they're gonna be after blood, first of all. X will be gone, YouTube will be heavily censored again, and they're gonna send the FBI after everybody. Guarantee it. No, there's something else. Where was it? This was I'd never heard of this prophecy. Have you do have you any knowledge of this?

SPEAKER_01: 22:55

Some you know, little knowing the 20th century, just some little known nun that's a servant of God from Venezuela that I don't know, never heard of her.

SPEAKER_00: 23:07

Yeah, I mean, who knows? Like prophecy is always in in hindsight, is always in 2020.

SPEAKER_01: 23:14

The thing is, there's like four or five prophecies that say it starts in this specific place, and they're all different from each other, none of them match, you know.

SPEAKER_00: 23:21

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SPEAKER_01: 23:40

Yeah, those are always fun. The time we talked about the the the Mujahide's guide, we got a lot of Muslims commenting angrily at us. That was fun.

SPEAKER_00: 23:54

All those old Musdies, always up to no good. I have a bunch of clocks. I have four for my CZ.

SPEAKER_01: 24:08

You mean in general or on us?

SPEAKER_00: 24:11

On me, I usually keep one extra. I don't have them on me now.

SPEAKER_01: 24:16

Depends how I'm carrying. I mean lately I've had two on me. Two extra.

SPEAKER_00: 24:23

I mean, if you can carry it and it's comfortable and you don't mind carrying it, carry one, carry two. Yeah. Things are gonna get bad, guys. Things are gonna get way worse than they are right now. We have, you know, like we talked about a couple shows ago, we have 18,000 confirmed terrorists in the United States from Afghanistan. We have 100,000 confirmed Iranians, you know, from the you know, out and from the IRGC that are here. Like we know all this, and so they're just waiting to be given the signal. And with everything that's going in in Iran right now, uh, they're having their own little uprising over there. I could see them activating some cells here to take the pressure off of them for us to deal with that instead of dealing with Iran.

SPEAKER_03: 25:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 25:11

So I whatever you can carry on your comfortable, I would suggest it. But don't go around looking like a Batman with like eight mags on your it's gonna be hard to hide all that. At that point, you just carry a rifle. Yeah. So the Venezuela thing has been, you know, it's it's still still going. A lot of people are arguing just war theory and international law. International law is is a topic that only scholars talk about, so it gives them something to talk about. No one enforces international law. The United States enforces international law because we are the world's police force. So if we don't enforce it, it's not a law, and that's just the way it goes. When you're the most you're the biggest kid on the block, that's how things go. But there's no such thing as international law. I can't break a law here in the United States from Germany, like they have no jurisdiction over me whatsoever, right? So when I was getting requests from you know Twitter back in the day that something in Germany wanted me to take it down, it's like I told them. Like, I'm not taking it down. What are you gonna do is send me a strongly worded letter? I'm not worried about you. So it this idea of an international law is ridiculous. Laws are only as effective as they're able to be enforced, and they're only able to be enforced through violence. That's how laws are enforced, or the threat of violence, right? So, for example, you don't pay your taxes, what happens? Well, they threaten you at jail, right? What if you don't go to jail? What if you won't go to jail? They're gonna send the police after you with guns, right? Eventually, force and violence enters the equation, right? You get a speeding ticket, you don't pay it. Well, this is not a warrant for your arrest. Well, what if you don't ever come in and turn yourself in and take care of well? They send police to your house with guns, right? This was the same thing with Maduro. We got tired of him and his shenanigans, and we sent our police force after him and snatched him up. You know, I thought Khmani was next. I thought Khmani was going down last night. I I thought it was a very possible we have a lot of aircraft over in Europe right now. Yeah, a lot of aircraft, so they're prepared for something. I wouldn't say might makes right, you know, but um but it seems to be the law that everyone forgets when it comes to secular humanists, they only care about might, they don't care about the morality. There's nothing holding them back from being evil other than someone bigger keeping them from doing it. If Antifa could go out and kill everybody that voted for Trump, they would. But they're worried about the people that voted for Trump having guns, it's the only thing keep him in the back.

SPEAKER_01: 28:15

So he has isn't international law basically a body of international treaties, and and yes, yes, that that is that is correct. The the issue is is that in international relations, there's two main schools of thought. There's a few more, but there's two big ones. There's realism, and these terms, when dealing with international theory, like relation and theory, are different than when they're used other places. So there's realism and there's liberalism. We've been since world war one, probably, and definitely since world war two, worlds have been operating under liberalism in the international order, and that what that means is that you have these international institutions and not you know, NGOs and all these organizations that are there to enforce you know things like international law and treaties and and relations between nations and things like that. And this weekend we saw that die hardcore. Prior to World War One, it was political realism that that basically ran the world, and that's that's I don't want to say might makes right, or but it is the idea that that really it international relations is a zero-sum game game, and you can only win with power, so it's it's a balance of power and negotiations between self-interested actors being nation states, that then enforces international rules and laws and treaties and things like that. So, like prior to World War I, you had the concert of Europe, which came out of the Napoleonic Wars, which was negotiations between the European great powers that basically managed global affairs for a hundred years, and yeah, it broke down in World War One, but we've seen the liberal order that started with the League of Nations and the UN break down much faster, much quicker, and and and I think we see that that the idea of liberalism on the international stage is a failure, and that really re and and even then that liberal notion was only ever enforced through the unipolar might of the United States. So, in in the end, even that was realist in a sense.

SPEAKER_00: 30:41

So seeing all the people, and I talked to Rob about this earlier, but seeing how that a lot of people are all of a sudden becoming geopolitical experts because they have a little bit of a microphone and some people listen to them. To be honest with you guys, it made me really think like, do I need to stop doing this podcast? Because I don't ever want to be like that. Right? You will never hear me on this podcast trying to teach you all theology. Right? That will never come from me. I will never try and claim I know anything more about the faith than what I've read, right? And I never will be an authority, but we have people out there with 50,000 subscribers and who's listened to a podcast that think they can make a bunch of uh pronouncements and voice a bunch of opinions about what's going on, and they're just muddying the waters, and they're making themselves look like a fool, honestly. You know, and it's just it that made me really like really have me take a step back, and because I don't ever want to get to the point where I have us we have such a large audience, and we may never get there, that all of a sudden I feel like my crap don't stink. Right? And I'm trying to keep this PG because I would not say crap normally, but you know, I don't ever want to get to that point because there's nothing good comes from that whatsoever. And I go to confession enough as it is, I don't need to go more. So it's just you have to be very careful about who you all listen to out there. Zeehan is one guy you need to absolutely avoid, like the plague. That guy has been saying Peter Zihan, he's been saying China is collapsing for like 30 years. He keeps telling us 10 more years, and that's been he's been saying that for 30 years. But you have to be very aware, and then the guy the people you listen to, take it with a grain of salt, listen to opposing opinions and see who is making the more sense, and who has the uh experience to back it up as well, because you have a lot of people making very large claims about the military and can't even get the nomenclature of the helicopters right, right?

SPEAKER_01: 32:59

I mean if whoever you're listening to, they should be able to mention specifics and not just generalize everything. It's easy to generalize everything, especially when you don't know enough to get into specifics.

SPEAKER_00: 33:16

Like it's okay for you to say, like, I don't think we should have done that. Yeah, that's fine. That's your opinion, you know. You that's okay, you're allowed to have that opinion, but don't say we shouldn't have done that because it violates the third principle of just war theory, brother. You just looked that up 10 minutes ago, you didn't even know what the third principle was, and you're wanting to sound smart because your ego requires you to have affirmation by people thinking your opinion means something, right? So just be careful who y'all listen to. Don't even like verify everything I say on here and everything Rob says. Go out there and listen to you know and read counter opinions because we if we get into the point where we are in such a bubble where we don't we aren't effectively doing any type of introspection, we're gonna fail ourselves. Right. When I do when I do firearms courses, and I teach firearms courses, the first thing I tell everybody is I'm gonna teach you a way. This is not the way. You have to figure out your way, right? That means you need to go to other trainers and learn other aspects of how to shoot because I'm gonna teach you a way that works for me, and that's worked for a lot of people that I've taught, but it might not be the best way that works for you, right? So you need to constantly be doing some self-evaluation, and that comes with the information you're listening to. Uh, you really need to verify what people are saying. So I just that that irked me more seeing that stuff this weekend. All of a sudden, we have Catholic influencers acting like they know anything about what happened with Maduro. Like, if you want to argue about just war theory, go for it. I don't care. Like, y'all can argue that's y'all.

SPEAKER_01: 35:03

And even then, we if you're gonna do that, you should acknowledge you don't know two percent of what's net what of you know of what's necessary of what happened in this situation to come to any conclusion. Yeah, right. You can say if this, if you know, then that, but you you have to acknowledge like you there's a lot of information you have no idea about, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 35:28

So I mean, if even if we just went through the principles of just war theory, right? You know, see if we can find any that we can that we can debunk, right? Like one, it has to be done by legitimate authority. The presence is legitimate as it as it gets. Is there a just cause? Okay, was there just cause to go get Maduro, who is constantly trying to sabotage the United States? I would say there is. Okay, was it an issue of last resort? We tried to do everything else other than go in and get him with military might for the last 15 years. Y'all said the same thing. We've been trying to overthrow him for 15 years. This is obviously last resort. The reasonable, reasonable chance of success. We have the best military in the world, we had a very high chance of that being successful. The proportionality, very few civilians were killed in this.

SPEAKER_01: 36:25

And it sounds like it was only those that maybe like I don't uh uh once again. You we need to acknowledge we don't know, we don't know what the rules of engagement were, right? We don't even know how how the the air defenses were handled. Was it just e8 eA18 growlers jamming them? Or did we use you know harm missiles to to blow up a few raider sites? We don't know, right?

SPEAKER_00: 36:49

Probably both. It was probably both, right?

SPEAKER_01: 36:53

Right. But I mean, it's possible we went in and only shot at the at those who shot at us first. I don't know. You know, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 37:01

I mean, but I supposedly we had no one KIA on our side. We had a couple of casualties who are expected to recover, but we killed supposedly 32 Cuban guards of Maduro.

SPEAKER_01: 37:15

I think yeah, other sources are saying 80 to 100 so far, you know. Yeah, yeah, keep reported deaths.

SPEAKER_00: 37:21

Let's go, let's get a thousand. I'm not above exaggerating that stuff. Let's do it. The elite Cuban military guard of Maduro, like the Visigoths with the Roman Emperor. But uh I don't know, I know that it got kind of got on my soapbox there for a second. It just you know, I I y'all won't ever hear me talk about stuff I don't know about. I'll ask questions right about things I don't know about, right? And I'll pontificate about certain aspects of things I don't know about if I know a little bit about it, but I will never tell you with absolute certainty that this is how this is, yeah, right. And if you're unwilling to listen to someone else, which a lot of guys are, they're telling us how this was you know this was not proper just war to to execute, and they're not willing to listen to anyone else, and they're just talking past each other the whole time. What's the point, man? Like, why are you just trying to get more subscribers? Like, why are we doing this? Are you wanting to highlight yourself some more so people will subscribe to your Patreon? Like, why? Why are we doing this? You know, we've already we've already been at each other's throats since Charlie Kirk, anyway, and now you're making it even worse. Why? What is the point? Right, so all right, I'm gonna get off my horse on that. Other than that, the Venezuela thing, anything else that y'all noticed that y'all maybe I haven't brought up.

SPEAKER_01: 38:48

I mean, that that two-hour mission did completely kill the Russian and Chinese military export industry. Yep.

unknown: 38:59

Yep.

SPEAKER_01: 39:00

I don't think anyone's gonna be looking to buy any Russian air defense or Chinese radars anytime soon after that.

SPEAKER_00: 39:06

And on top of that, over the last few months, Panama. I don't know why I just drew that up.

SPEAKER_01: 39:11

Panama, Panama, Panama.

SPEAKER_00: 39:17

Panama has removed their sales from the Belt and Road Initiative. Good in China. They removed all their contracts with with Chinese for a few reasons. One, from our influence, is the biggest one. But two, it's because they're not abiding by their end of the agreement at all. China isn't like everything's coming in late if it comes in at all. Um so that's one big reason. As well as Colombia has is removing all its contracts with China as well, right? So this is this is lining up, guys. This is to be able to protect the North and South America, we have to remove all the capability from foreign agitators to be able to affect us, and that means. Doing things like what we did in Venezuela. That's the best way for us to protect ourselves. Nope. Nope. No, we're doing this one.

SPEAKER_03: 40:11

Okay.

SPEAKER_00: 40:12

Nuk's not real. They're not real.

SPEAKER_01: 40:15

If they're not real, why do they seem to have such a large impact on foreign affairs?

SPEAKER_00: 40:21

It's a ruse. Everybody's there's like, hey, you know, there's a good judge. It's a ruse this whole time. Nuke's not real.

SPEAKER_01: 40:32

Okay, here's the thing. The biggest, the biggest proponent, or the biggest reason why you might be correct there. I'm not gonna say you are, I don't believe you are.

SPEAKER_00: 40:44

I'm listening.

SPEAKER_01: 40:45

But if you what I'm listening, the the biggest reason why you might be is the claim by India and Pakistan that they both have nukes. Give me a break.

SPEAKER_00: 40:58

Look, seriously, they might have poop nukes. But no, but so logically speaking, with the fall of the Soviet Union, there are dozens of nukes that went missing.

SPEAKER_01: 41:13

Yeah, for real. Okay, uh mostly out of Ukraine, actually.

SPEAKER_00: 41:19

You know, a terrorist organization has some. Yeah, it's it's a certainty, right? Do you think that they wouldn't have used them by then? Oh it depends who has them. I don't think it depends at all. Radical Muslim jihad is if they're willing to blow themselves up, they're willing to blow up 50,000 other people with them. True, true, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 41:48

And I don't, it's very possible we stop something like that. That that that is something you like usually, you know, after you stop a terrorist attack, you the the story gets out eventually, uh purposefully, right? That would be one story where I could see they were like, nah, we shouldn't let people know how close New York almost was to not existing.

SPEAKER_00: 42:09

So let's let's let's talk about government competence first. Okay, there's a reason that the military has been so competent for so long, right? And why we, if we need something like what happened in Venezuela, to happen, because it is mostly red-blooded, mostly white. There's you know, there's some you know, DEI soldiers in there too, even some swimmers, but but mostly they're non-gay, okay, non-homosexual, because men, LGBTQ, whatever, whatever, anytime they're involved in any organization, it comes down, it eventually becomes caddy and backstabbing, right? Just like any anywhere that has a bunch of women, like at hospitals with nurses, they're all backstabbing, caddy and worst thing for morale in the world. So we are and and the CIA is ate up with homosexuals. Ate up. Are you telling me that the CIA is so good that they're able to, without any type of other influence, they're able to sway the world in whatever way they want it to go. I think some of this is dumb luck, and it's just I I think the overarching organization is preternatural, it's not people cooperating with each other, right? There are a bunch of fag hags running around, there's no cooperation going on there at all, but I think it's preternatural that it's causing all the issues we see now. So, like everybody who sees a psyop behind every door, like they're not that competent, right? Look at Tim Walls. We've known about this for 10 years, and the only thing that has been kept it from coming out is they have a iron grip on media, that's gone now, and that's why we know about these things now, right? So I just the the fact that people think the government is so competent that it can be this maleficent, overarching super villain. Like I they're just if you've gone to a DMV ever, like it's just it's just not possible. Now, the military is a different a different story because it's men mostly in those frontline positions, right? And men are much more likely to die for the man next to them, which is a big reason why it was fought for so long and keeping women out of the combat arms. Because study after study showed that when a woman is injured in battle, men forget their mission just to protect the woman because that's our nature is to protect women. Men are disposable because women can create life, it is in our inherent desire to protect them, right? So I've got a little tangent here, but the government is nowhere near competent enough to do any of this. You're probably right. You're gonna see local uh Alabama redneck arrested for red flag laws used to for him for illegally processing his own pigs. I you know what scares me the most, though, is Salmonella. Salmonella is pretty, it's pretty scary. So do you know who Cheryl Atkinson is? The name sounds really familiar. So like 10 years ago, she was investigating something when the Obama administration and as a journalist, and the FBI or CIA had hacked into her computer and put some stuff on her computer, and then arrested her for that stuff they put on her computer, and then she was able to prove through court that they did it, right? And so she got out of it, whatever. That scares me to death. That they they put like some like it's like look look, I'm in the Marines, right? And I've I got a bunch of friends who we send some our group chat is pretty spicy, right? And like I got some pretty racist white people against white people stuff on there too, right? Because racism against white people is hilarious, because a lot of it's true, right? But I've got some stuff, but I'm scared that they're gonna put some other stuff on there, and then they're gonna send me to jail, and then like jail justice is gonna happen, right? That's what scares me because they can do it, it almost makes me want to be a Luddite. They're so trad. There's dads that don't ever play with their kids. It's so funny to me that he's like, all of a sudden, I don't like the cold weather anymore. I'm moving to Texas.

SPEAKER_01: 47:22

Well, it definitely has nothing to do with the fact that it's winter all of a sudden.

SPEAKER_00: 47:26

And then someone called him out. They're like, Hey, aren't you the guy who keeps it at 47 degrees in your house because you don't want to work?

SPEAKER_01: 47:34

You'd rather be a itinerant writer than actually do anything productive.

SPEAKER_00: 47:41

Man, he's hilarious. I just it's young guys who talk like they've seen anything in their life and try to project their opinions on towards everyone who will listen. And it's to be fair to me with it.

SPEAKER_01: 47:55

That is basically the definition of a young guy, yeah. Yeah, pretty much.

SPEAKER_00: 48:00

But now we've given them microphones and an audio, right? Before it was like you're at the gym or you're like at the local bar, and everybody's like, Oh, that's an idiot down there talking about like he doesn't put his heat up past 55, his baby's freezing to death, you know. But now we give him an audience of millions, right? He thinks he knows something. Um we have some Amish merger at our house. I like the Amish. Yeah, all the time. So uh I'm in I've been involved with our local fraternity chapter, and it's nothing but Gen Z. What's after Gen Z? Alpha. Is it Alpha? What what year did Alpha start?

SPEAKER_01: 48:50

I know the next generation after that just started, so Alpha must have started. I don't know. I don't know. Let me look. Okay. Gen Alpha.

SPEAKER_00: 49:07

Um like how young is the youngest. 2010 was Alpha? Yeah, so they're 16. 15, 16. Okay. So yeah. We got quite a so most of so your kids are Gen Alpha. My kids are 100% Gen Alpha. Yeah, I mean, I don't think the world's ready for Gen Z and Gen Alpha. I don't think you'll I don't think the world understands just how jaded they are about the world. Their their carameter is at a zero. Started at a zero. Yeah. And it didn't if it could go negative, it would. And I just think, you know, for all these people who are, you know, changed their life because someone called them racist or a a bigot, right? All of a sudden, you know, they change everything about their life so they'll never be called those mean words again. Gen alpha and gen Z do not care. They will change their lives just to make sure they are called that word. Yeah. I don't think the world is not ready. It'll it'll be interesting to see how that goes when they get to voting age.

SPEAKER_01: 50:25

Because if y'all don't think Fluentes Gen Z is voting age, but yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 50:29

If y'all don't think Fluentes is gonna have some type of elected office here in the next five, 10 years, y'all are crazy. Like he could run for president by 2032, and he'd have a good chance of pulling in at least 40% of the vote. At least how old is he now?

SPEAKER_01: 50:45

20. He's is he's like late mid-20s. Well, so then it wouldn't be 2032. If the constitution stays the same.

SPEAKER_03: 50:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 50:55

So he'd be what? You say he's 25 now, that would be in seven years. So yeah, he'd be a little short. So we'll look at 27.

SPEAKER_01: 51:02

So 2036 would be the first one.

SPEAKER_00: 51:06

So that's yeah, 2036. He's missed it by like a year in 2032. Bro, you're five years off, apparently. He's not 32. Where'd you get that from? He was born in 1998. Tell you what, that boy needs to eat and hit the gym, though. He is victim weight. 140 pounds. My daughter's 140 pounds. She's got more muscle on her than he does. Yeah. It's it's refreshing to talk to Gen Z right now. And just like there's no bull crap going on there whatsoever. You like they mean what they say, like there's no passive aggressive. Well, well, there is the irony point.

SPEAKER_01: 51:54

There's the whole irony thing. Yeah. But sometimes it's like, hold on, hold on. Shut up with the jokes. Just tell me what you're actually trying to say.

SPEAKER_00: 52:04

But most of the time, they're gonna tell you what they actually think.

SPEAKER_01: 52:07

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 52:08

So yeah. Let's see. What else do we want to go over? Let's go over this Wardall tweet. So that's not the one you sent me, right? That is not. Let me I mean, I'll just I'll just pull up his tweet. Yeah, so it's the one about Luther. So if y'all don't know who Wardall is, Wardall is a company out of Canada that sells a lot of shooting gear, basically. They have some really cool t-shirts and stickers. They they're they're the ones that have the Reconquista sticker that people have with robust stocks. They have one that says Crusade, and he it I would say he was he's one of the good Protestants, right?

SPEAKER_01: 52:51

If if I didn't know he was Protestant from like him saying that, yeah, I could very easily think he was a pretty based Catholic, or at least orthodox, right?

SPEAKER_00: 53:02

He's even better than most Orthodox, to be honest. Yeah, so he puts out this let me pull it up here. And the novice oral uses the wrong psalm numberings. Yeah, so he puts out to use the Masoretic. Yeah, yeah, because if I if I wanted an authority on the Christian scriptures, I would go to a book that was written 125 years or put together 125 years after Christ.

SPEAKER_01: 53:27

Right, I would definitely go right to the Pharisees to get the proper numbering of Christian Christian scripture.

SPEAKER_00: 53:34

Well, we've got more active gunfire near the Venezuelan presidential palace than Caracas.

SPEAKER_01: 53:38

I was seeing that right as we were going on, right, when I was arguing with Anthony. Yeah, with with Ven with since you're we're kind of back to Venezuela, I would just say, like, with everything up to this point, if this is to be where it would stop, I don't have much of a problem with it.

SPEAKER_00: 54:03

I don't either.

SPEAKER_01: 54:03

I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna declare it was all morally right because like like we've said, we don't know enough to make some sort of declarations about that, but I don't have much of a problem with it. But if we send you know troops in to try to get a democratically elected government, you know, we're there for 20 years. I'm not okay with that. But once again, Venezuela's not Afghanistan either.

SPEAKER_00: 54:31

Yeah, apparently I think this is a coup against that interim president Delcy Rodriguez. Wasn't he just the vice president? Uh I don't know.

SPEAKER_01: 54:44

I thought it was gonna be that Machado woman that won the uh the one that Trump's pissed pissed at because she didn't give him the Nobel Prize. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 54:55

I thought it was gonna be her, but apparently not. I don't know. I mean, I see a bunch of videos of military columns driving everywhere, and some looks like some anti-aircraft fire going on. So who knows? All right, let's pull up this word all. All right, I'm not gonna read the whole thing because y'all don't like me enough to hear my voice that long. But basically the premise is I'm gonna start it out. Was Luther actually the bad guy in Christian history? I was raised Protestant and he was presented to me as a reformer of the church and a force for ultimate good. But as I take a critical look at history, it's clear, clear that he was a sole cause of the fracturing of the Christian church. What was for 1500 years a unified and strong body of Christ, became a broken church that battled not against the enemies of Christ, but against itself. The 30 years' war saw eight million soldiers and civilians killed from the war itself or the aftermath thereof, with some parts of Germany losing over half their population.

SPEAKER_01: 55:51

What people don't realize, the Thirty Years' War, as a percentage of people, as a percentage of Europe killed in it, was worse than World War II.

SPEAKER_00: 56:04

Yeah. Even the historic orders, such as the Hollers, broke apart into distinct Catholic and Protestant. Divided not by Saracen foes, but the very church they defend. Protestant and the Catholics wage war against each other in Ireland and countless other nations. I wouldn't say countless other nations, I would say half a dozen other nations. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 56:27

It depends if you want to count each little German elector state separately or not, but yeah, I would count Germany as one, honestly, because that's what we know it as now.

SPEAKER_00: 56:35

Uh because that was a culture. It wasn't anyway. And the chasm between the two Christian factions exists to this day. Was Luther's 95 theses on an earnest addressing of some fatal ideological flaws that needed to be rectified within the church? Certainly, argument could be made that the church refusal to reform left no other choice but to create a parallel institution. Coming from a Protestant, that's a step back than what most Protestants would say.

SPEAKER_01: 57:04

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 57:05

Right. So, but it's no, it's not true. You should never schism from the church because you disagree, right?

SPEAKER_01: 57:13

Uh it I don't know if he gets into it later or gets into it at all, but it that part seems to miss the fact that like the church actually was reforming, like the the Spanish Reformation started in the late 1400s, 30 years before you know Luther, things like that.

SPEAKER_00: 57:32

So and it does get into a little bit. I'm reminded of the satanic French Revolution, he calls it properly there, whose criticisms of the monarchy were warranted, but whose solution was to abolish the entire system. Certainly, the similarities between these two historical events make me wonder if Luther threw the baby of a unified Christendom out with the bathwater, so to speak. I mean, Luther just succumbed to his sins. And he was given a lot of money and power behind himself to then force it on everyone else. He had a lot of greed by the the Germanic princes and such who wanted land and monasteries to themselves. So he goes on and then makes an example of how even King David subjected himself to Saul, even though Saul was no longer the rightful king, and he had every chance to kill Saul, right? And it's and when you're reading this, that gets into the comments. There's one guy, Mike Belcher, who's like a state congressman out of New Hampshire, I think. And uh he just he's not a fan, apparently. He says, retarded take and aligned with critical theory. And Wardall just responds with incredible rebuttal. Thank you, Mike Belcher. But like there was one comment I wanted to read. Where was it? Where is it? Maybe it's up here with the Mike Belcher one, but he makes a comment to somebody. Maybe this was it. Might have been off of mind. Anyway, he makes a comment. Somebody makes a comment to him about it. He goes, Your heroes, or something makes some comment about it. He goes, and he makes a comment that my heroes are Catholics. Right? So it sounds like he's on the way.

SPEAKER_01: 59:36

Yeah, so it's it sounds like you're on your way to orthodoxy. Oh, there it is. And he replies, All my heroes are Catholic.

SPEAKER_00: 59:42

Yes.

SPEAKER_01: 59:42

And he uses the capital C for it, too.

SPEAKER_00: 59:45

Yes. So it because I've had interactions with him before. We've talked a little bit about some, and I've shared some things with him. And like I that's a all my interactions is probably a handful through through X with him. But anytime I see someone who is honestly Seeking after the truth, right? I'm gonna reach out to them and try and like you know give them a little bit more because most Protestants are not worth interacting with on X whatsoever.

SPEAKER_01: 1:00:11

No, you your average American evangelical, there's no point in engaging with them.

SPEAKER_00: 1:00:17

There's no goodwill there whatsoever. And to be honest with you, they're too ignorant and too unwilling to look past their own prejudices to even entertain what you're saying. So I just don't like and it's funny because now my wife's occasionally getting into it with some people on Facebook because she still has Facebook like a boomer, but she does it and she'll get into it with people on Facebook. I'm like, why are you arguing with these people? They're not listening to you, they just want to have a win against somebody on social. They're not they don't care what your point is, right? Just don't waste your time because you're gonna get all worked up for no reason for someone who doesn't even want to listen to you. But it's but I you know, guys like him, because I remember when Christian Wagner wasn't Catholic.

SPEAKER_01: 1:01:06

See, I don't remember that.

SPEAKER_00: 1:01:07

I didn't know he existed. Like he hated Catholics, and then like a week later, he's become a Catholic. Like he went from like putting on a tirade, like a like a thread of like 30 tweets, how he'll never be Catholic. The Anglican Church is a real church, da da da until a week later, all of a sudden he's Catholic. Right? So, and I'm not questioning his conversion, but anyone who is seeking after the truth, honestly, I'm gonna have a conversation with, especially someone who's in this space, right? Who's in the I don't forget, I'm like an elephant all the time. It's almost like I'm a woman, but every every chance he gets, he cooks Wagner. Every single chance, there's nobody getting cooked here. There's a light saute. Okay. Um, but uh especially someone in this space, right? Could you imagine in a space if someone like Clay Martin became Catholic? Or the influence it would have on the gun tube would be immense. Now, if Lucas Botkin became Catholic, that'd be a little weird, right? He'd probably go to an ordinary yeah, the skinny jeans, yeah, skinny jeans, 100%. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. But we we should always because that's how nations were converted was the king became Catholic, and then through his influence, everyone else became Catholic. Right? Rarely was it was it bucked at all.

SPEAKER_01: 1:02:45

Only Mike Jones would stay married.

SPEAKER_00: 1:02:55

Sorry. Mike Jones, man. That man. Like I I can never look at him the same after I heard all those voicemails. Focus trip went on a tirade.

SPEAKER_01: 1:03:07

I I did not listen to those voicemails because I'm like, you know what? I do enjoy watching Grantham every once in a while. I will not be able to do so if I listen to these. Yeah, it was it was not good.

SPEAKER_00: 1:03:21

Like, you know, they Darry Civilian is right now my favorite channel to watch. I think they put out the best content out there that's entertaining, the best entertaining content out there, we'll say. I think they're better than grand thumb by a mile. But those guys they know just enough about their own faith that they won't ever take a look at it critically, yeah. And so, like, they're one of the good ones. Like, I will never punch right, you know, they're one of the good ones, so I always you know would always consider them an ally, but they will, I I would highly doubt they ever because you also have to understand like they live in a community where everyone is their same faith, right? And they don't have any because they live in the woods, they live in BFE, Tennessee, and so they don't have they're not gonna have any influence outside of that. Now, that's not to mean that they can't go down the rabbit hole on the internet one day, right, and then like start to search for it, and they've they've got the capability of going within an hour to go to the places, but I would not ever expect them to do that. The voicemails of Mike Jones from Grand Thumb were of him leaving voicemails to women he was stepping out on with his wife. They weren't like hi, how you doing voicemails, they were very lewd, we'll say he wanted to impregnate a lot of women.

SPEAKER_01: 1:04:54

They were actually quite similar to the voice of reason cookie voicemails.

SPEAKER_00: 1:04:58

Yes, yes, very, very similar voicemails, and just to put it out there, voice of reason has a very punchable face, yes, and when you say you won't punch right, there are exceptions. Well, I'd be punching gay at that point, but uh bro, you can't show your nipples that much and not be gay, it's like constantly cold wherever he's recording.

SPEAKER_01: 1:05:30

But uh he's got the we he's got like the build like a starving African child, almost. You know what I mean? Like his his torso is like weirdly small, but yet extruding at the same time. Does I mean I don't I don't know why why I think that, but well that in his head's way too big for his body, yeah, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00: 1:05:53

It looks like one of those bubble heads on your dashboard, you know, they're just look, and he may, you know.

SPEAKER_01: 1:06:00

Taffy, Taffy, voice of reason as a starving African kid. That's all I'm gonna say.

SPEAKER_00: 1:06:10

Yeah, like if you've never alert heard the recordings by Mike Jones, don't listen to them. Just don't even go down that route. Uh or or voice of reason, either one, just don't do it. Yeah, or voice of reason. Don't listen to those either. So, anyway, back to Wardall. Like, he's somebody first of all, we need to be praying for him that he seeks out the truth. Because if you seek out the truth, you'll come to the Catholic Church every single time. But it seems like he's on that route. Now, you should also go buy stuff from their store because now they have American options, and so you don't have to pay the tariff anymore.

SPEAKER_01: 1:06:42

Oh, really? Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:06:44

So, like they have it, they have a really good dope card, right? That you can put on the back of your on your butt stock if you want to, you know, keep track of your holdovers and things like that for your rifles. That it's only like seven bucks, it's well worth it. Yeah, their dope stickers are great. And then you can always buy the you know, the reconquista ones and crusade and all that. They have some good apparel and all their stuff is high quality too. Did you order any of those hoplight flashbangs or whatever?

SPEAKER_01: 1:07:15

I haven't yet. I was gonna wait for the second round because he had mentioned there were some issues with the first. Yeah, I'm gonna wait for the second round.

SPEAKER_00: 1:07:23

Apparently, the problem is getting the 12 gauge blanks. 10 gauge blanks, aren't they? Is it 10 gauge or 12 gauge? Yeah, I think it's 10 gauge. 10 gauge blanks?

SPEAKER_01: 1:07:32

He's got them on his site.

SPEAKER_00: 1:07:33

Does he? Yeah, I thought Joe Dolio was asking him to get him some because they he was out or something, or to tell him it when it comes in. I always forget what his site is.

SPEAKER_01: 1:07:48

I know the name of the company, but the site isn't. Yeah, that that's the name of the company, but the site is hoplite gear. That's what it is. Okay. Hoplite industries and hoplite gear. 10 gauge shorts. 10 gauge short blanks. They sell packs of six for 29 bucks. And then the device itself for 260.

SPEAKER_00: 1:08:17

Yeah, I think I'm gonna buy the one for the next round. Check it out, see how it goes.

SPEAKER_01: 1:08:23

What is what is the civilian use case for that? Because you yourself always say, Why do CQB when you can do arson? Yeah, but one, it would be fun to use. Okay, fun. I okay, I yes, I'm all for fun. You're right.

SPEAKER_00: 1:08:49

So second, well, the first rule gun tube is always look cool.

SPEAKER_01: 1:08:56

Yes. So having a couple of those on your I have most like guns for that exact reason. Yes.

SPEAKER_00: 1:09:02

Yeah, so always look cool. I could there's a lot of uses. You I mean, you could use them as triple arms, exactly. The rule of cool, always look cool. So you could use them as triple arms if you wanted to. You could use them. You don't even have to necessarily use CQB. I mean, you could use them in the open, right? Because it's some other aspects is like you ever used uh smoke grenade, like a real smoke grenade.

SPEAKER_01: 1:09:27

I've never personally used one.

SPEAKER_00: 1:09:37

They'll use it for taking pictures and stuff, but I mean you just get different colors for wherever you want to use. But you're you're gonna use it, it doesn't have to be it. It could be like you know, somebody's behind a car a truck, right? And you just toss it under the truck, right? And the concussion of it is gonna jar them, yeah, when it goes off, right? So it doesn't have to be in the building. So yeah, like I don't you none of us should ever be doing CQB. Ever. You're you're going to die doing CQB.

SPEAKER_01: 1:10:08

It's hoplight industries on Twitter that's at hoplite underscore ind. Their website is hoplightgear.com. The guy is the guy that owns it is from New Zealand and he's a traditional Catholic. He goes to the FSSP. But they do have someone that operates here in the US, so they they they ship out of the US to the US.

SPEAKER_00: 1:10:31

But they're they're legal to use in the US. They're just using a 10 gauge blank, so there's no there's no issue with it. There's no flash to it. It's just a concussive grenade, pretty much. Don't use the black enemies until you tell them to smile, and then they let the chest so they blend in. I just thought of a really racist joke, my grandpa told me. Worse than the smiling in the dark. Well, yeah, okay, because it's blatant.

SPEAKER_01: 1:11:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:11:15

You want to hear it?

SPEAKER_01: 1:11:17

That would be for locals.

SPEAKER_00: 1:11:19

We don't have locals, guys, because you all won't subscribe.

SPEAKER_01: 1:11:22

Subscribe for the racist jokes, guys.

SPEAKER_00: 1:11:27

So the only reason to learn CQB, in my opinion, like you know, take my opinion with a grain of soul. I've never I've never taken a house, right? I've never stacked up, don't you know, but my opinion is the only reason to learn CQB is to defend your house, right? So if you know how someone would operate, you know, running a stack coming into your house, if you know how that's gonna go, you know, you're gonna know how to better defend your house. So that'd be the only reason to learn it from for me. But uh the other side of it is like I don't really want to spend, you know, because the people who teach CQB are real proud of their courses. You're looking at$750 to a thousand dollars to go learn CQB for a situation you're probably never going to be in.

SPEAKER_02: 1:12:12

Yeah.

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Ever.

SPEAKER_00: 1:12:14

You probably will never know of anyone who's ever in that situation. I bet you do. You're trying to get the white man thrown off YouTube.

SPEAKER_01: 1:12:29

He'll be the first one to report us. I know. These white boys.

SPEAKER_00: 1:12:36

And it's a good one, too. That's a good joke. My grandpa. I so my grandpa served in World War II. He was the Iwo Jima. And you know, he's like a your typical German in Kentucky. And I dated a I dated a I dated a very light-skinned black girl in like right after high school when I was I was working for a bank at the time. And I brought her to a family function, and he was not happy whatsoever. He was not approving. And she's like, she doesn't look black, like she had her hair was in braids, right? So that's about the only reason you'd know, but she was very light-skinned, and he was upset.

SPEAKER_01: 1:13:32

You see, your grandpa was an Iojima, right? Yeah, he's the Eojima. So he was a Marine, I imagine. Yeah, this that had to be before Marines were known for the big booty Lutinas.

SPEAKER_00: 1:13:44

That was that was that makes sense. And then big that that's why they didn't send the Marines into Venezuela because they'd still be there, right?

SPEAKER_01: 1:13:53

Right. They're like, no, no, no, you got we gotta keep all you guys on the ships because otherwise we'll never get you back on the ships. That's exactly what is Venezuela will just become a United States Marine Corps colony, exactly what'll happen, like the Philippines. Exactly what will happen.

SPEAKER_00: 1:14:07

When when our ships go to Australia, as the ship's pulling up, the Australian women will line up along the pier, put their phone number on a tennis ball, and throw it onto the boat. Do you know why Australian women love American, especially Marines, so much? Citizenship. Nope. They like guns and we can have them. I mean, that might be some of them. They hated being put in COVID camps. We probably protect them from it because we don't beat them. Apparently, like the ethnic abuse is rampant in Australia.

SPEAKER_01: 1:14:45

We're gonna have to ask uh Diodati about that.

SPEAKER_00: 1:14:49

We should bring him on. She didn't have a forehead, she had a five head.

SPEAKER_01: 1:14:59

Oh boy. We were you watching the channel very very early on when we had Angela on. Probably, and it was she had said something on Twitter to some other women and pissed off this group of women on Twitter, so they came on in the comments on our show because Angela was on, and their big insult was to her was that she had a five head.

SPEAKER_00: 1:15:32

It's such a like it's such a sneaky like insult, you know, because it takes a minute for most people to figure out what what it means. Because I've seen some six heads, to be honest with you, some predators running around. Um but it is like it's what we used to call a velvet dagger in the Marine Corps. You insult somebody by complimenting them.

SPEAKER_01: 1:15:56

Yeah, it was the caddy CIA bishop. That's exactly who it was.

SPEAKER_00: 1:16:02

Them fag eggs out there. Um your grandpa could have been mad, or he should have that. She isn't a Japanese girl. He was no, so a lot of guys came back from Japan with Japanese women, not my grandfather. He was protecting the bloodline.

SPEAKER_01: 1:16:21

We'll say they either came back with Japanese women or they came and they came back and still call them nips to this day.

SPEAKER_00: 1:16:27

Yeah, I remember the day I wasn't allowed, probably I wasn't allowed to use the term flip chart in the Marines anymore. Because that's a derogatory term for Filipinos, a flip. Is it yeah?

SPEAKER_01: 1:16:43

Can't wait till I get in a fight with the Filipino on Twitter now of ammunition.

SPEAKER_00: 1:16:48

Yeah, that's exactly what you do. No, that's when did you stop beating your wife?

SPEAKER_01: 1:16:57

You're right, you're right. I'll ask Fred.

SPEAKER_00: 1:16:59

You have to ask him leading questions, guys. This is how this works. This is a hundred percent true. We are never getting one of us. Can't can't use derogatory terms in the Marines, not around the brass, like staff sergeants and higher. In fact, actually, staff sergeants, you could, as long as there's nobody else higher rank around them to hear it. But you any like majors or anybody, like because once you get to like light colonel, lieutenant colonel, you're really on a career track to try and get to to general, right? Like at least brigadier, so you're very career-minded, so you become gay. So that's you really have to be be aware of your audience. Nebraska, they're always gay, man. Always gay. Fred's wife isn't sick, she just has pt.

SPEAKER_01: 1:17:52

Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, guys. Come on. Could have been worse. Uh could have been about could have been about Trent's wife somehow.

SPEAKER_00: 1:18:15

Oh man. It seems like the Daily Wire is starting to implode. They just lost their sports show.

SPEAKER_01: 1:18:24

They had a sports show.

SPEAKER_00: 1:18:26

Yeah, Jack Crane and Company was our sports arm. You don't you don't watch sports, so I'm not surprised you don't know them. But yeah, they lost their show to a like just like an online website, apparently. They paid them more than the daily wire was. Yeah. So I mean, I think it's only so much longer with Matt Matt Walsh is there. If Matt Walsh and Michael Knowles leave, like that that place is gone, right?

SPEAKER_01: 1:18:50

Because no one cares about Andrew Clavin. Jeremy Boring is out already. Yeah, I only yeah. And then so what do you have then? Ben Shapiro?

SPEAKER_00: 1:19:02

Yeah, no, and does anybody listen to him?

SPEAKER_01: 1:19:06

Apparently he's using a thousand subscribers a day lately.

SPEAKER_00: 1:19:09

Yeah, like I just don't think like I just can't stand his voice. Like, he can be right about something, but I immediately think he's wrong just because I hate his voice.

SPEAKER_01: 1:19:17

That's that's how I feel about Jonathan Peugeot.

SPEAKER_00: 1:19:20

Oh, really? I never listened to Jonathan Peugeot.

SPEAKER_01: 1:19:23

French Canadian accent, man.

SPEAKER_00: 1:19:25

You're too close to the situation up there, is what it is. That's me in like Louisiana speaking kunass. What? Kunas? What do you care about what do you care about kunas? Well, because that's what Lu people from Louisiana talk like. And I can't stand it. Fair. So I'm too close to the situation. Like a French Canadian's not gonna bother me. I mean he might as well be from Europe. Yeah, but

SPEAKER_01: 1:20:01

Europeans, besides some British people, sound really gay. Yes. And then there are some British people who sound really gay too, for the record.

SPEAKER_00: 1:20:11

Other than the Germans, the Germans just always sound angry. Like Japanese people. Japanese people always sound angry. Especially when talking in English. I like the way he talks. I don't like him. I not anymore.

SPEAKER_01: 1:20:34

I used to, but he just starting to think the way he talks is like a voice of reason acting thing. No. You don't think so? Nah I don't think so. See, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00: 1:20:48

Sounds like a bit. I mean, it is a little heavy. I will say that. I don't think it's a bit, but he might embellish it a little bit. But he's just he's another guy who's been he's been Catholic for what two years?

SPEAKER_03: 1:21:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:21:04

He knows everything about Catholicism. You cannot question him whatsoever. And apparently he's burned so many bridges where he lives, he has to move back to South Carolina. Seriously? I don't know. I mean, that's that's the whispers going around. He's he's not really welcome, I guess. I mean, I would want to go back to home anyway, you know, like it, especially, especially because where he lives in Kentucky is not like you have to drive, he has to drive to Glasgow, which is a far drive from him. And if he moves to South Carolina, depending on where he moves, the liturgical situation in South Carolina is better than that part of Kentucky. So that may be another reason, but he probably just wants to go back home to his family, is and he just not making a lot of connections there in Kentucky.

SPEAKER_01: 1:21:56

Pipe slumlord, pipe shanty, pipe shack, pipe slumlord, pipe cabin. Pipe Lake Home, pipe oval, pipe hobbit hole.

SPEAKER_00: 1:22:18

My wife's watching the show. She sent me a comment about the black chicken dated right after I was cool. What are you chuckling at? It's just it's funny. It's just like I've been married to my wife for 17 years, and there we still I still have things she doesn't know about me. Because it just doesn't come up, you know. Like, why would why would I talk to her about old girlfriends? Right? Like, that's dumb. You definitely shouldn't. No, 100%. No, don't do big guys, yeah. Never fall through that trap.

SPEAKER_01: 1:22:56

Ever. No matter how much they convince you, it's no big deal and they want to know, they don't want to know, it is a big deal.

SPEAKER_00: 1:23:03

It is a big deal. Do not broach that subject whatsoever. Do not do it. It's a trap. It's a trap. Yep. Yeah, I think it needs to be longer than that. I think it needs to be like 10. You haven't even learned to live as a Catholic yet in three years.

SPEAKER_01: 1:23:22

In the new in the new missile, you haven't even you just got through the freaking lectionary in three years.

SPEAKER_00: 1:23:29

Yeah. That's that's if you win every day. Yeah, yeah, every day. He's like a three-fifths Catholic.

SPEAKER_01: 1:23:45

No, no, no, no, no. Come on now. That's clearly the Eastern rites. For the record, most of the people don't, according to our analytics. There are 22 people right now on YouTube.

SPEAKER_00: 1:24:06

Look, and I love every single one of you, 22 people. Thank you for listening to my rants. Appreciate that. Makes me feel loved. Only 49,780 more. I'm gonna start talking about things I know nothing about.

SPEAKER_01: 1:24:26

Let's see. Wow.

SPEAKER_00: 1:24:29

What? You took me a second. Did you uh so did you get any new guns for Christmas?

SPEAKER_01: 1:24:38

I haven't taken any into my possession, but there's one on special order for me. What'd you get? SP5K. You want to put an FRT on it? I mean, why would you not? I agree. I agree.

SPEAKER_00: 1:24:57

I want to get the Springfield Kuna and put an FRT in it and put it in my backpack all the time.

SPEAKER_01: 1:25:05

That's my backpack gun right now, actually.

SPEAKER_00: 1:25:08

Is it really? Yeah. I because when I went to Louisville, I took my 12 inch, but I had to break it down to fit it in my backpack. My backpack extends out, so but I need something smaller that I can throw in a backpack easier.

SPEAKER_01: 1:25:25

Yeah, that's what's in this right now.

SPEAKER_00: 1:25:30

What is that?

SPEAKER_01: 1:25:31

Is that this is this is an eberly stock? I forget which one this is.

SPEAKER_00: 1:25:35

The dirty trick.

SPEAKER_01: 1:25:38

What?

SPEAKER_00: 1:25:38

The dirty trick. Everly stock. That's the one I have.

SPEAKER_01: 1:25:44

Everly stock.

SPEAKER_00: 1:25:45

Yeah, brother. FRTs are legal, man.

SPEAKER_01: 1:25:49

I think there is something in Minnesota. I'd have to look. The special provision they did. Did they really?

SPEAKER_00: 1:25:57

You probably get a rare breed. But they're assholes. Rare breed is like exempt from all that stuff.

SPEAKER_01: 1:26:05

But aren't they the assholes suing everyone? Yeah, because they're dumb.

SPEAKER_03: 1:26:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:26:11

Uh, this is the eberly stock fade adapt.

SPEAKER_00: 1:26:17

I never heard of that one. But my Iberly stock, but it I mean, it's probably my favorite backpack I've ever had. It's just quality. I like the way it sits off my back and it doesn't make me sweat real bad. So I've got a driveway that it's got a hill, but it's got a circle, and half the circles, you know, uphill and half the half downhill. And so I'll walk around with the back of my back a lot. And I'll do if I do 11 laps, that's one mile. And it's the only backpack I have that like my back's not drenched with sweat because it gets enough airflow in the back. Plus, it's durable. I've liked it a lot.

SPEAKER_01: 1:26:53

Yeah, this this one has that that bottom zip panel that you can like like yours. Yeah, you zip it and then it, you know, like the little extend out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:27:04

Yeah. Yeah, I like that about mine. I doesn't because I had to do that when I put my rifle into the little uh long day, long day. All right, let's we get how long before loudners become cheap? They want the shit down or something.

SPEAKER_01: 1:27:23

Apparently, the a the ATF is keeping up way more with the applications than I thought they would. Really? Yeah, people are saying they're getting approvals on their forms that they've submitted.

SPEAKER_00: 1:27:39

Because I know a guy who literally form one to potato.

SPEAKER_01: 1:27:47

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_00: 1:27:49

So like I know guys who like I know a guy who is 3D printing suppressors and form one in them all.

SPEAKER_01: 1:28:01

They're purposely trying to crash the system.

SPEAKER_00: 1:28:05

Yeah. I think on the first day there was a hundred and thousand forms submitted the first day of January.

SPEAKER_01: 1:28:15

Yeah, so yeah, Minnesota's got a law that makes trigger activators that reset the trigger using the firearms recoil energy illegal. So FRT's.

SPEAKER_00: 1:28:32

That would be the bump stock.

SPEAKER_01: 1:28:36

Well, doesn't what you what force resets the trigger? Not the recoil. So it says it covers removable devices that increase the rate at which the trigger can be pulled to machine gun levels.

SPEAKER_00: 1:28:57

Wow, that's vague as hell. That's super vague. But the recoil there is the operative word, right?

SPEAKER_01: 1:29:03

That would well, so that that there was two clauses. There's that clause, and then clause two is what covers devices harnessing recoil. So the trigger resets and continues firing without additional physical manipulation of the trigger.

SPEAKER_00: 1:29:18

No, because on an FRT, you have to keep pulling the trigger. You I I bet you you I bet you could find some people in Minnesota who have them. Probably. Yes. So those of y'all that may not remember this. So I've got a history of dementia in my family. My mom, she's only 71 now. She's had it since she was 65. And I've got a history of my you know, my mom's side of the family with it. And I'm concerned about having it because if I have it and the things I've seen in my military career and as a firefighter, I know I will have the capability of being violent. And I don't want my wife to deal with that. So I have things in place to take care of me in case that happens, that my wife will never have to worry about things. And that's just using you know the means, you know, I have to pay for it, right? Because I'm that concerned about it, and it's something that I pay for that allows me to not have to worry about that anymore. So thank you for your concern. But I mean, I think I went through the V VA as well. I've got my like you know, whatever disability as well, but you know, it's just it's a real concern because how many people out there are not doing anything about it, and they're leaving their their family in the lurch to have to do it. Where when you have dementia, you're not even yourself anymore, right? And and your wife is married to you and she doesn't even recognize you anymore, and not only that, she's in her 70s and she can't physically take care of you, right? So sort of it's it's life insurance that has a rider on it that will pay for long-term care in case I need it while I'm alive. And I pay a I probably pay more in life insurance than most of y'all pay for your mortgage. Uh it's uh I pay a lot for life insurance.

SPEAKER_01: 1:31:17

It reminds me I gotta get a policy on bash.

SPEAKER_00: 1:31:20

Yeah, you should all have policies on your kids. Last thing you want to be worried about is coming together with$15,000 to pay for a kid's funeral when you just lost a kid. Like you don't want to be worried about that stuff. Let's see. Uh, where are those things we got? All right, answered that. You're already on one list, why not be on more? Yes, both baths should have life insurance, especially if your wife doesn't work, right? Just because she's not bringing any monetary value, right, to the house through taxation. For example, if something happened to my wife, I can't afford to pay someone to do everything that she does. Right, yeah. So I have a hefty life insurance policy on her, too. Because if something happens to my wife, I've got to find somebody to cook, to clean, wash the kids, educate the kids because they're not going to school, like we're still homeschooling. I've got a farm to run, need somebody to wash my clothes, take my dry cleaning in.

SPEAKER_01: 1:32:30

Like, my only in a way, you almost need it on your wife more and for longer periods than you do on yourself, in a in a sense, because my if my wife died now, like my youngest is four months old. I need to pay someone basically a you know, uh an average full-time salary, yeah, for like the next 18 years, right? Yeah, at least, yeah. Where whereas if I were to die, I need to make sure my wife has the income that would replace mine until she would remarry.

SPEAKER_00: 1:33:15

Who's gonna marry your wife, though? Not that she's not a lovely woman, right?

SPEAKER_01: 1:33:20

That's what I'm saying is that question.

SPEAKER_00: 1:33:28

Think about this though. Like, one, like, as I've talked about this with my wife, if something happened to me, right, my wife would not remarry because anyone that is interested in my wife, they're probably not interested in my wife, they're interested in my kids, right? First of all, I mean, yeah, in our daily life, I can see that. Who's interested in a woman that already has children? Right? Nobody wants to raise another man's children. It's gonna take a very few people out there that would be willing to do that. The other side of it is so the happening to my wife, I would not remarry because my wife can barely stand me. You think I'm gonna find another person that can stand me? Yeah, I wouldn't remarry. I would never remarry.

SPEAKER_01: 1:34:15

No, I wouldn't remarry. You would?

SPEAKER_00: 1:34:18

No, no, absolutely not. I just don't mean like and plus I'd always be comparing the second wife to the first wife, and like I just this is not fair to anybody. Who gets buried next to who? Yeah, that'd be a weird situation. They both die before you, and then you gotta bury yourself between them. Just awkward. Why do that? Yeah, I mean, I don't blame anybody who does it. Like, I that's just not what I would do. I would not remarry. I would just I would probably bring it over in au pair to take care of the kids until they go to they get out of the house. A lot of cheap Venezuelan ones, the ones that just became available. I'd have to, I'd have to order an old one though. I don't need the temptation. Yeah, bring in that, bring in a 65-year-old aboila, cook some empanadas. She knows how to make her own tortillas. Tamales for days, man. Can't wait for my first empanada. This is Mexico, it's Venezuela.

SPEAKER_01: 1:35:26

They'd be empanadas.

SPEAKER_00: 1:35:27

It's all the same food. Everything is just a variation of a taco.

SPEAKER_01: 1:35:37

You ever had a Latino wife? He would kill you for that.

SPEAKER_00: 1:35:41

Probably. Which is why I wouldn't marry a Latino. Smart. I'd run my mouth way too often. I'd be stabbed daily. Multiple times. Multiple times a day. I'd have to get one of those British stab vests.

SPEAKER_01: 1:35:57

You only order the rounded knives in this house.

SPEAKER_00: 1:36:02

You only you only get the ceramic dull knives in this house. Everything has to be torn in this house. We don't cut nothing. Yeah. Life insurance is a funny thing, man, because it it really brings out emotions in people for whatever reason. You know, like it's for whatever when I talk to like I have some guys who talk to me about it and you know, financial stuff, and I was you know, I'll bring up life insurance with them. Like, oh, I don't need it, I'm not gonna die. Do you know how many people under the age of give you a statistic? So New York Life did a put out a report that was basically echoed by every other major life insurance company out there. 2020 to 2025, they saw an increase in mortality of the age group 25 to 54 by 80 percent. That's crazy. That is the equivalent of World War II. Okay, how many of those families had no life insurance? Because nobody got it, right? So, like 80 to 90 percent of that 80 percent. How much do you hate your family that you don't want to at least give them five years of your income if you're not here anymore? All right, like so. It's just it's wild to me that people who just like oh, what I have through work is good enough. No, it's not. You know, the first thing that companies got rid of during COVID tertiary benefits, 401k matches, and life insurance. Those are the first things they got rid of. So if you died during COVID, you had nothing getting paid out. Literally six million people died between 2020 and 2025.

SPEAKER_01: 1:37:44

Six million to 271,000 at most.

SPEAKER_00: 1:37:54

Look, I don't follow financial advice by anyone who has filed bankruptcy twice.

SPEAKER_01: 1:38:02

Who's DRS?

SPEAKER_00: 1:38:04

Dave Ramsey. Oh, so the problem is also with term buy term and invest the race, no one ever invests the rest, they just buy the term and then they blow the rest. So, and not only that, but Dave Ramsey has whole life. Why is he telling you to do something different than he's done for himself? Like, I don't I just don't trust the man. Not only that, but his son is the worst human being ever. Like, have y'all seen Anthony talk sit show his clips from his show? Whoa, wait, wait, who's his son? It wasn't his son that does those marriage advice, whatever things isn't that his son.

SPEAKER_01: 1:38:48

No, that's not his is it?

SPEAKER_00: 1:38:51

Is it just an employee, which is even worse? Because I can see not firing a son for that. But if it's just an employee and he lets this guy give this horrible advice telling women to run off, and you know, I stay incorrect, and it's even worse because it's an employee he won't fire. Is it a son-in-law?

SPEAKER_01: 1:39:10

Should I call Anthony right now?

SPEAKER_00: 1:39:12

Call Anthony and ask him. I bet he knows.

SPEAKER_01: 1:39:15

We'll have the guests.

SPEAKER_00: 1:39:15

Yes, this is the guy Anthony hates. Hold on. He's it's this is even worse if this is an employee. Because I could see not firing your son because he goes this board. But there ain't no way. Never mind.

SPEAKER_01: 1:39:56

The person you're trying to reach is let's see, what's the guy's name?

SPEAKER_00: 1:40:00

Let's see. Dave Ramsey show. Oops.

SPEAKER_01: 1:40:08

I know what it looks like. Let's see if we can find it. Dave Ramsey marriage advice guy. Is that what you're saying? That's what I just did. Dr. John Deloney. Yeah, a different name. John Deloney. All right.

SPEAKER_00: 1:40:22

John Dani is John Deloney related to Dave Ramsey. Google could tell us everything. Deloney is a mental health expert. And a co-host of the Ramsey show, providing insights of financial and emotional wellness along with Ron Ramsey. Told you, even worse.

SPEAKER_01: 1:40:48

Spouse, Sheila Quinn Deloney.

SPEAKER_00: 1:40:51

Sheila Quinn, like Dr. Quinn Messenger.

SPEAKER_01: 1:40:56

My mom used to watch that show all the time. I would watch it with her because after that was Walker, Texas Ranger.

SPEAKER_00: 1:41:08

Is John Deloney a small hat person? He's not.

SPEAKER_01: 1:41:13

Hold on. Hold on. I'm on his Wikipedia. Let me go to the early life section. From Houston, Texas. He went to Lubbock Christian University. So he he's not a Jew, but he's definitely probably a dispensationalist, I would imagine.

SPEAKER_00: 1:41:35

I just Googled John Deloney scandal. Oh man. And it just comes up with 10 years ago, John Deloney walked into a small family-run pizza restaurant in Hartwell and fatally shot the owner during a robbery as the owner's wife cowered behind the counter. Did Google just make up some John Deloney lore? Let's see.

SPEAKER_01: 1:42:03

Hold on. I gotta Google Anthony Abate's scandal real quick.

SPEAKER_00: 1:42:07

John Deloney's wife hates him so much they deleted and disabled comments on her interview. Sheila Deloney clearly has so much contempt for her husband, she spent their whole conversation saying, John isn't that bad, but he's not that great.

SPEAKER_01: 1:42:23

Chicago, Chicago top cop out amid scandal. Police said the footage showed Anthony Abate, a 12-year veteran of the force, punching, kicking, and throwing 24-year-old bartender Carolina O'Brika to the floor after she reportedly refused to continue serving him drinks. I could see it.

SPEAKER_00: 1:42:51

First thing that comes up is when you're on the Tex Cathedral podcast. Really? Yes. Episode 49, Toxic and a Strange.

SPEAKER_01: 1:43:02

Oh, see, for me, it it brings up. So there's a a British children's author named Enid Blyton. So for when I Google Rob Blyton's scandal, it says Enid Blyton had racist views, but I still read her. Holy crap, I didn't know Enid Blyton was based.

SPEAKER_00: 1:43:21

Oh, this is funny. Oh, we do that all day. Let's say, let's look at Jonathan Pajot scandal. What does that look like? Let's see. Just someone complained. Does anyone else not get Jonathan Peugeot? All of us, buddy. All of us don't get Jonathan Peugeot. Oh man.

SPEAKER_01: 1:43:50

Me Auntie died in the Holly.

SPEAKER_00: 1:43:55

I know I liked you, Paul.

SPEAKER_01: 1:43:59

I I mean I'm my family, that part of the family, anyways, is from like that part of England, so I'm sure there's some familial connection there, but I don't know what it is.

SPEAKER_00: 1:44:14

Alright, do we have any questions or anything? Let's do these stars real quick. What do you guys think of the petrodollar theory? As to why we invaded or not invaded. No, I don't think it's the petrodollar. I mean, there's we just print money now. Like the petrodollar's been gone for forever. Um, it's not it hasn't mattered for a long time. Uh the the the biggest thing that holds up the American dollar is the amount of debt out there in the American dollar. If y'all ever listened to Mike Shelby over at Forward Observer, he talks about this all the time. The biggest thing holding up our dollar is the amount of countries that have debt in our dollars. But no, I don't think the no. I think it's the Monroe Doctrine is the reason we went after Ven Venezuela. We need access to our oil for what's coming. And we're trying to stave off a war with China. And this, and if we kick them out of Venezuela and remove their access to their crude, it makes it a lot harder for China to go forward with this plan, especially with Taiwan.

SPEAKER_01: 1:45:16

Yeah, I agree. I I I think I mean obviously hard to predict the future, but I I think a move like this actually it it shores us, it shores us up on the international stage, and it makes future con conflict, at least in the near future, less likely than more likely.

SPEAKER_00: 1:45:36

I hope so, man. I hope so. I don't want to go back to war. If we're gonna do it, we need to do it soon before I'm too old to do anything. It is the downroad doctrine. All right, what's this other one? I will say this about Venezuela. If the primary motivation is the seizure of natural resources rather than the peace of the Venezuelan people, the right intention is corrupted. I mean, you're not wrong, but if the seizure of the access to the oil, because we're not stealing all their oil, like they're still gonna be able to sell it and make a bunch of money off it to the United States, it's not like right, and Venezuelans will still be employed in the industry, so on and so forth.

SPEAKER_01: 1:46:17

They're gonna get some remuneration from it, they'll probably actually make more money than they were, to be quite honest.

SPEAKER_00: 1:46:23

The Chinese don't care about ripping you off, even more than BlackRock does. But it's more about providing security for our hemisphere, in my opinion. By everything that's going on, if we're reading the tea leaves here of all the actions that are being taken, it's not about just the money for the oil, it's going to be about getting access to 17% of the world's reserves of oil when we are the major capable country of being able to refine that oil. There's no other country out there that has as many refineries as we do to be able to refine heavy sour. So in my opinion, that's what it really comes down to.

SPEAKER_01: 1:47:10

If Anthony was here, we could have him pronounce Venezuela in a Chinese accent.

SPEAKER_00: 1:47:16

The uh so the first title for this show I gave to Rob was uh Vuvuzela for Venezuela, and I don't think he's ever seen a Vuvuzela, some people call it. You ever seen those? Those big horns they had in the soccer games?

SPEAKER_01: 1:47:34

But I refuse to believe they're called Vuva Vuva VuvaZelas, the Vuzalas, Vavuzalas, Draculas, horns, they're freaking horns.

SPEAKER_00: 1:47:44

I was trying to give you, I was trying to give y'all a really fantastic name, and Rob shot me down.

SPEAKER_01: 1:47:49

Okay, while it was an interesting title, titles I I always try to tell Anthony this, too. He always wants like the title to be clever, and it's like I get it, but tight tight, like people don't click on something because of the title, they click on it because of the thumbnail. Yeah, the video appears in their search results because of the words in the title. Yeah, so unless someone's gonna search Vivuela or whatever, you just said it's you know, if if someone's not likely to search that, then it shouldn't be in the title.

SPEAKER_00: 1:48:25

So can we do anything about Mexico without being called an anti-Semite? Because the historically Mexican name Scheinbaum now leads Mexico. So if we do something about her, are we now is Trump now on the good side of the Gropers?

SPEAKER_01: 1:48:52

Is there a way around the Jewishness?

SPEAKER_00: 1:48:57

Yeah, put ridges on the coins. We figured this is old technology, buddy. We figured this out a long time ago. I don't know you're gonna say that you can't take down Mexico without being an anti-Semite. We're just gonna have to just suck it up and just take the hits.

SPEAKER_01: 1:49:25

Yep, no one's gonna be rough. Well, you know what's gonna happen. Denmark's gonna put a new premiere in Greenland that's Jewish too. Our kryptonite.

SPEAKER_00: 1:49:44

Of course it was, to replace Jesus. Yeah, basically. I know you're why you know what's funny. I had a friend over this weekend on Friday. We had my girls had like a little Christmas party for all like the seven, eight, nine-year-olds. And he's a federal law enforcement officer. And we started going down the Jew rabbit hole with him and like all that, and he was had no idea. Like, like I'm giving him my pop my copy of E. Michael Jones, the revolutionary, Jewish revolutionary spirit. You know, I'm I'm like, and then I've got a woman from Honduras who's sitting there with us, who's a the mother of one of the girls, and she's you know, telling her all about this stuff too.

SPEAKER_01: 1:50:34

Definitely. What we what we really need to do is give Venezuela to Bekele. I'm not with that. Like, here, this is now part of El Salvador.

SPEAKER_00: 1:50:47

Fix it. Or put or put someone in power just like him. Like, we need a Venezuelan Mussolini. Someone to have the trains running on Tom.

SPEAKER_01: 1:51:00

Yeah, we need what's hilarious is that the other I I read Buchanan's Hitler Churchill in the Unnecessary War, like a week or two ago. The amount of hate Mussolini had for Hitler is hilarious. Oh really? Just thought he was a clown.

SPEAKER_00: 1:51:26

I'm not surprised. Well, Franco didn't like Hitler either. Hate him too. Yeah. That's probably why Mussolini was murdered. Oh, for sure. Yeah, can't you can't rebut the small mustache man for too long. He's gonna do something about it.

SPEAKER_01: 1:51:46

Franco lasted them all.

SPEAKER_00: 1:51:52

And now look what happened to both those countries.

SPEAKER_01: 1:51:55

Yeah, the second they were both gone, they cucked.

SPEAKER_00: 1:52:00

It's bad. Alright guys, we're gonna cut it from here. It's been two hours. I've enjoyed my time with you guys.

SPEAKER_01: 1:52:06

Do we want to make predictions on the next big global event to happen?

SPEAKER_00: 1:52:12

I don't think that's fair. Like, do you think I think it's not fair because like I have a pretty good indication when I know what's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_01: 1:52:22

Well, like, do you think Iran's supreme leader will be in power and by next Monday?

SPEAKER_00: 1:52:27

By next Monday?

SPEAKER_01: 1:52:30

I think it might only be like 50-50, he's in power next Monday.

SPEAKER_00: 1:52:36

I would say so. Supposedly the second week of January, which is this next week coming up, there the Iranians are supposed to kick off some terror campaign.

SPEAKER_03: 1:52:50

Really?

SPEAKER_00: 1:52:51

Yeah, that's the word that's being released from the some of the federal law enforcement people. So they're they're on the watch for that. So I could see that being done to take attention away from Iran. Because if we're if we're getting, you know, having terror attacks every here here every hour by four or five gunmen in 30 cities, right? We're we're not gonna care about anybody else for a minute. True. So I could see them using that as a diversion to just kill a bunch of protesters in Iran and solve the problem.

SPEAKER_01: 1:53:29

Hold on, that's not the last one.

SPEAKER_00: 1:53:37

He's got the bubble fly belly as well.

SPEAKER_01: 1:53:40

Yeah. Yeah. I'm telling you, that's really almost what his body structure seems to be. I I agree.

SPEAKER_00: 1:53:49

He's all nipply. Alright guys, so uh go join the telegram. No, man. No.

SPEAKER_01: 1:53:59

No.

SPEAKER_00: 1:54:03

Uh cookie master, love cookie. Who won the December challenge? I don't think we've posted. I'll post it on the I mean y'all probably know. Like if you're in the competition, you see who has the best hit factor. You're gonna know. But we'll post it in the in the telegram. Go join Telegram, go hang out in the Telegram. We've been having some good conversations over there. We have our own resident autist who keeps that thing alive. Who's that? Who's that?

SPEAKER_01: 1:54:30

Yeah, you know who that is. Well, there's I mean, you say that like we don't have more than one autist in there.

SPEAKER_00: 1:54:42

Is our resident autist. He he's bringing all that stuff involved in that talking about A Cogs on M things and everything. Y'all come hang out on the telegram. I'm gonna post the the Christmas was crazy for me. So I'm gonna post this month's uh challenge. This this month's challenge will not be firearms related. Uh we're probably gonna do some bushcraft skills. So I'll post that by Friday. Give y'all a good three weeks to do it. But y'all get in Telegram, come hang out, subscribe, share the channel, all the things we need to pump up those numbers. Uh we need to get to about a thousand. But that's all I've got. You got anything? Nope. Got nothing. You got a new plate carrier. We'll talk about that next time.

SPEAKER_01: 1:55:37

Yes. Yeah, that was that was gonna be what we were gonna talk about today, but uh obviously arresting the sitting president of another nation kind of comes first.

SPEAKER_00: 1:55:46

Yeah, kind of kinda overrode it. But we'll talk about maybe we'll talk about that next time. Yeah, sounds good. Assuming nothing else happens in the next week.

SPEAKER_01: 1:55:55

Which is a big assumption, it seems like that is a huge assumption. Because we said that same thing last Wednesday. Yep. All right, guys. We'll see y'all next week. We play the correct outro video. Here we go.