No Soft Boys: Raising Strong Christian Men for the Coming Storm

A cold run on the range has a way of telling the truth, and we start there: the Dickens Drill, weak ammo, gear quirks, and what “honest reps” look like when you don’t get to warm up first. But that quickly turns into the bigger theme we can’t ignore: raising boys who can do hard things on command, without excuses, and without needing constant entertainment to stay stable. If you care about fatherhood, masculinity, resilience, and practical virtue, this one is for you. 

We get personal about broken homes and missing father figures, because those early gaps don’t stay in childhood. We talk about what actually fills the hole: real men to emulate, strong families to learn from, and the kind of books that show courage, duty, and self-control. We also get frank about guardrails, because modern “kid content” and even nostalgic movies can sneak in stuff you don’t want shaping your children’s imaginations. Catholic parenting shows up here as a lived culture, not a vibe or an argument online. 

Then we go hands-on with the stuff that forms boys in real life: chores that make them sweat, learning tools, doing repairs together, bodyweight training, cardio, and discipline that fits a child who isn’t motivated by taking away toys. We also connect physical formation to spiritual formation through fasting and abstinence, explaining how to ramp it up wisely so kids learn penance without crashing. We close with community questions like matchmaking and parish demographics, plus a teaser for our next conversation on Sir John Glubb’s “The Fate of Empires” and what decline looks like up close. 

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Transcript

Late Start And Range Updates

SPEAKER_05 0:40

Well, we're a a week late, but we're here finally.

SPEAKER_00 0:44

Look, just because your head was about to explode from a headache, it doesn't give me excuse.

SPEAKER_05 0:49

I just love all that had to happen on this video with this subject.

SPEAKER_00 0:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 0:55

Which people did not fail to point out multiple times. Thank you all.

SPEAKER_00 1:00

Don't worry, guys. I've got my my cell phone ready to make it into a hotspot in case my internet gets a little wonky tonight. I've I actually I did a video, so I went and did the Dickens drill myself. And I recorded a video and I didn't, I just haven't uploaded to the channel yet. How'd you do? But I'll put that up.

SPEAKER_05 1:24

We're 90 seconds in.

SPEAKER_00 1:33

How'd the drill go?

SPEAKER_01 1:34

I'm ready. Uh so I don't know if he's cool.

SPEAKER_00 1:47

All right, so I mean I'm fine. I I had I had like an hour and a half or so early in the morning the other day before some clients. And so I went out to my range and I did it cold, and I did it honest. I did it, I didn't showed y'all, like I hadn't taken a shot yet, and I did it. And when I first did it, I thought my I thought my red dot had veered a little bit because I went back to the four yards and did it, and I think I hit five of ten cold, like first shots I did.

SPEAKER_01 2:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:15

Um and I was like, man, I was like, man, maybe my red dot is off. I may I need to re zero. I was like, let me do it again, and then I hit 10 of 10. So I was like, okay, well, no, I'm I just suck. Is what it was. But I also got a video of me. So I've got a 22 conversion bolt uh that I put in my AR. And there's a website called borebuddy.com, and they they basically specialize in 22, 22 conversions, stuff like that. And they've got some replacement parts for like the CMMG conversion bolt, and they're like if you change this out, you know, and put in basically a plug into your uh buffer, it'll help out a lot. I mean, it helped out a little bit. It I didn't get as many failure feeds. I think it's more the ammo is the issue. Yeah, because I mean 22 is notorious for just not being a reliable room fire in general, yeah. Now, if I bought some more expensive, better 22, I'll probably it probably would have been ran great like a sewing machine, but it did mostly okay. I still had some failure to feeds or failure to eject anyway, but it wasn't nearly as bad at what it but I also think I was shooting too fast. Um so but yeah, I got videos of both of that. I'll put up the video of doing the Dickens drill for y'all. I'll put it in the telegram and probably post it to the channel as well. But we'll be fine. I got an attachment to put my GoPro on my helmet so y'all could see it better. Nice. Uh, but I've got to I've got to adjust it because you couldn't see the target for a minute, but it's so far out that eventually it came in into frame. But I've mostly all to see my presentation and everything, and I was shooting, but it went fine. I'm also I was also shooting some pretty weak ammo. I got some 115 grain 9mm for like 20 cents around when I bought it. It's from from the uh Czech Republic, and it's it shoots fine, but really with a Glock with the 19 with a compensator on it, you really need some like 124 or higher to really shoot that great with a compensator.

SPEAKER_05 4:15

But I don't know if we I don't know if you saw the the drill video I put up over the weekend. Yeah, but I yeah, I was shooting 115 grain out of my my ported fig 365 and one of those rounds, man. I don't know what it was, but it was so loaded so weak, and I I think you could hear in the video, it's just like a pop, and you could, you know, I felt it that it could not rack that slide back at all. Really? It wasn't a squib or anything. No, no, like it it did legitimately shoot, but it just wasn't enough powder.

SPEAKER_00 4:50

I am red because I've been out in the sun all day. We had a charity event for a local Catholic school that we helped support uh through my work. So been out helping with that all day. And I just got in the door like 15 minutes ago. So hopped on here. I know we hadn't had a show in the week, so I wanted to be able to get on tonight because I don't want to go another week without a show. But uh yeah, that's so if you see me looking like a lobster, that's what this is about.

SPEAKER_05 5:19

I would love to see a video of someone doing the Dickens drill with the P38. That would be amazing.

SPEAKER_00 5:27

I mean, you could I'd be reticent in doing anything that's like a two and a half inch barrel, right? Yeah, snub nose or maybe like a one and a half inch barrel, like a stumb nose, because you're not man. That's that's a whole lot of margin for error. It is on that kind of distance. You really need something with at least a three-inch barrel, at least that's got some good sights on it to really be able to do that. Because otherwise, I mean, y'all already for those of y'all that have never shot a pistol four yards, it's a long way, right? For the average shooter, like these you know, gun tubers that do like like I was watching Grantham's video this morning because I had a two-hour drive this morning. I was watching his video on the 43x that he did, and he compensated with with uh Parker Machines compensator, and he was he he was taking shots at like 120 yards. But keep in mind, that's what this guy does for a living, right? Like he just shoots. Like, I have to go to a job that doesn't bulb shooting, and I shoot on the side.

SPEAKER_05 6:24

Uh and you have to pay for your own ammo.

SPEAKER_00 6:26

Yeah, I have to pay for my own, I had to pay for my own guns. And so, like for those of us, this is you know not our main way of raising money, like this is something we do on the side to be prepared. This is my main way of spending money. Yes, yeah, yeah. I made that I made that comment where I was talking to one of the guys today, and we were talking about, you know, if something happened to our wife, you know, would we remarry? First of all, my wife's the only person that I've ever met who could put up with me for more than 24 hours. But I don't think I would. And I think, you know, once the kids are house, I would have so much more store more disposable income for firearms. So I'd I'm really uh scared to see if that ever happens. You know, uh hopefully not. Hopefully my wife outlives me. Because I don't I would not do well if she passed away before me at all. I know what you mean. I know what you mean. All right, let's see. All right, so man, we've had this topic on the burner for like two weeks.

SPEAKER_05 7:29

It has been. I can't say I've really put much thought behind it besides just the title. So yeah, yeah, it's it was more just something to talk, you know, talk through more than anything.

The Dickens Drill And Ammo Reality

SPEAKER_00 7:44

Yeah, I will uh I will say that like so, for example, for me growing up, I grew up in my we were a broken home. My mom and dad got divorced when I was like in second grade or about to go into second grade, and I was raised mostly by my mom until I was like 16, which had still has effects on me, even to this day. And I didn't realize it till I had moved in with my dad when I was 16 what I was missing. Like I didn't realize at the time, I realize it now looking back, right? Uh but that that father hand of you know making sure I'm doing hard things and not having excuses. So I look back on like man, I was a horrible kid growing up. I was super effeminate, I was uh you know, addicted to video games, and this was like we didn't have like Modern Warfare 2 growing up. I had Nintendo, I was playing, I would get up in the morning like an hour and a half before I had to for school just to play Nintendo for a while, and then go to school and come back home and play more Nintendo, you know. And I just look back on how I was raised and how different it is to how I'm raising my son. But I think that was a bit I was excited when you brought this topic up because it is we are living in such a different time where we have so much more temptation to give our kids just the easy route, and those of us that don't want to take that path, it is very difficult because your kids are around other kids all the time that do take that easy path all the time, and you're having to raise them in a different way, and they they don't understand why, right? Which is like I didn't understand why growing up with my you know being raised by my mom and how different it was with my dad when I decided to go live with my dad. And I only live with my dad for like two years, and then I turned 18 and I didn't have a job, so my dad kicked me out. Like, that doesn't make any sense. I don't have a job. Like, why are you kicking me out? But that made me get a job, and it made me learn how to depend on myself and take care of myself, and that was the best thing ever. In fact, my relationship with my dad got so much better after he kicked me out, and we I just realized like what I was doing wrong, and and it took a while even getting into the Marines that to really shape how I needed to be as a man, but just looking back on it, man, just uh and how and how much of a diversion from that path I'm doing with my son because I've got one boy, I've got one boy, and I've got mostly girls, and we'll get into that in a minute, like how that that dichotomy works between racing boys and girls, because it's completely different. It is. I treat my son way differently than I treat my girls, and I'm harder on him than I am on my girls in a different way, like I'm hard on my girls too, but in a much different way. But so that's why I was excited when you brought this up so we could talk about it.

SPEAKER_05 10:54

Yeah, I was so my dad when my dad before I was born, uh, was diagnosed with MS. So he had MS most of my life. He was uh an auto mechanic, you know, as a as a career. And I was probably eight or so when he had to give that up and go on disability because of the MS. And uh just the MS and not being able to work and provide for the family really did a toll on on him and his personality and his mindset and emotions and things like that. So growing up, he wasn't much of a real father figure to me. There were times here and there, especially when it came to came to things like with cars and stuff, even if he couldn't do the work, he still knew a lot. But he wasn't he wasn't much of a father figure, and then when I was 15, 14, 15, he had the seizure and developed hydrocephalus and had a brain bleed. And anyway, so he had two brain surgeries, which changed him really drastically to the point where we were going to commit him to a to an well, an institution or or you know, a care facility because it was no longer safe to have him in the house just with the changes in his brain and things, but but his brothers convinced him to to not allow that and to divorce my mom instead. So that was that was it wasn't your typical divorce, but you know, still definitely wasn't raised in a home that was altogether there. But but yeah, so so ever since I was little, like didn't have much of a father figure. My grandpa was a big father figure in my life, but I think for the most part, like I I filled that hole by by reading, you know, reading history and and you know, the the great men throughout history and reading fiction and and you know some of the the men portrayed there in there. So that's I guess that's how I filled that hole. And I knew from the moment I decided to have a family that like that I was not, you know, any within my power, I was not gonna allow anything like that to happen with my my kids.

SPEAKER_00 13:19

And I think that's that's that's one aspect that's really important for young men, especially if you grew up without a father figure, is you have to find a man that you want to emulate after.

SPEAKER_01 13:33

Yeah.

Growing Up Without A Steady Dad

SPEAKER_00 13:34

And for like you, it was reading for me, it was it, I there was it where I in reading as well, right? Like for for and we brought it up before, like the book Hatchet, right? Yeah, and that was very important to shaping me on what resilience is without seeing it, because I wasn't around my dad at the time. So I, you know, I I would see him like you know every every other weekend and every other Wednesday type of thing, you know. But you know, reading books and reading books about good men is very important for the young man or the young boy who doesn't have that figure in their life, right? And with with especially with so many families now that are that are in broken homes. I think we're seeing a shift as well right now, especially with the younger millennials and and older Gen Zs, is that's why you're you know, divorce isn't as quite the issue as much anymore among those generations because they're just choosing not to get married, right? You can't get divorced if you don't get married, but when they are married and they do get married, their divorce rates are super low because they saw how it affected them growing up. Like the baby boomers basically found divorce and made it even better for themselves. Like, how can we how can we make a divorce even more efficient and good for us, right? Right, and that's what they did, like that's why so many of the baby boomer generation are divorced on multiple marriages, because they see it as like, well, things got a little hard, so we're gonna quit this one, we'll try to find another one, see if it works a little better. But for so many young men who are growing up in a home where there isn't a father figure or there isn't even a good father figure, right? You know, if you have a very soft dad, then that's almost worse than not having one at all. Because it would be wrong characteristics to you, because there's no virtue there, hardly at all. You might have one or you know, two good virtues, and then the rest of it is just about self-pleasure, where there's you know, just doing the easy stuff, always seeking after constant uh distractions through movies and music and you know, vacations and whatever. But you know, for those of us who did grow up in that that that time where we didn't have those, you know, finding good books, so you know how to say this. I what when I first came back to the church, I was not very pro the index, right? But now that I have books that are out there, I'm like, we need the index, like we we need it, we need it back. We we need we need guardrails on what are good books because I don't have time to read every book, you know, to make sure my kids can read it, right? I need it, I at least need a good list, right?

SPEAKER_05 16:24

And we do have some good lists, even for myself, like you know, I I look for a good Catholic book to re just find one, and I'm like, then you have to do research. Well, is it really a good Catholic book? You know what I mean? Like, what kind of Catholic book is it?

SPEAKER_00 16:37

It's yeah, yeah. So then there are some good lists out there that will really kind of warn you about things that have some very off topics that you really shouldn't read about, but it's it's hard to even do that a lot of times because my like, for instance, my oldest girl she reads a book almost a day, right? And I was like, there's no way I could keep ahead of her like that, but not anymore. Yeah, well, she's got the time. Well, what's she gonna do? Like, she's you know, she's an early teenager, and so you know, she's got the time to be able to do that, and that's what she likes to do, and that's kind of her hobby, and it's just some other things, but so making sure I put guardrails up on what the kids read, and then that's mostly just off of stuff I've read. You know, even with movies, I can't allow them to watch certain movies I watched because like we started to go back and watch Home Alone, and I'm like, Whoa, we can't watch this. Like, yeah, I had to put a filter on it just to make it viewable for them. Um, there's a portion in the Home Alone, you know if y'all remember, yeah, the magazine a women's brasier in a magazine in his brother's room, like, yeah, nope, you're no you can't watch this, in addition to the you know, other issues of language, you know. So, yeah, I I I think, like I said, you know, finding good books to emulate good men far, even if you are trying to be a good role model of your son and and exemplify the virtues you want him to have, it's still good to give him supplemental, like good books. Yeah, good books that that show the character of good men. Like one of them, Young King King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table. Mm-hmm. That's a phenomenal, phenomenal book for young men to read. And then like the Hatchet series, White Fang is good still. Other side of the mountain. Uh yeah, other side of the mountain. I believe if you if y'all know any other ones, you know, put them in the comments. You know, if it's I haven't read or I don't remember, put it down, you know, share the wealth. Help each other.

SPEAKER_05 18:42

You ever read Andrew's game?

SPEAKER_00 18:44

I did not. I saw the movie. So it wasn't anything like the book.

SPEAKER_05 18:50

Not really. It was one of my favorite growing up. And there's two like two there's two sequel series to it, you know, one from different directions, and one gets really like philosophical, and I don't think it's like bad to read, but I wouldn't have a young kid read that. But the other is pretty good. Thinking of having Maddie start start read that. You want to hear a funny question I got asked yesterday? What's that by Maddie? So we were listening to some saint stories on the hollow app. I know everyone, I know I know, but they do have good stories, saint stories for kids, and the the kids like them. So we were listening to stories about Saint Joseph. Okay, and they you know, they were talking about uh telling how Saint Joseph was surprised when Mary was pregnant, and Maddie asked, Why was he surprised? And I go, Well, she was a virgin, so she couldn't be pregnant. And he goes, Why couldn't she be pregnant if she was a virgin? Like, oh no, I'm like, Can you come back ask me that in about six more years?

SPEAKER_00 20:07

My was uh interesting. My oldest started reading Marley and me. Okay, and I might have brought this up before, but I we whole thankfully we've inculcated in her a sense of piety. So when she starts reading something, she's like, I probably I don't know if I should be reading this, she'll bring it to me. Yeah, and she did, and she let me read like what she had issues with, and I read it, and it was talking about like she was getting in very risque lingerie, and nope, we're done, like we're not reading this, right? I was like, Man, that's even Marley and me. Like, she can't read a she can't read like the 1990s version of Old Yeller, you know.

SPEAKER_05 20:49

I was gonna say the only thing I know about that story is that the dog dies. Oh, spoiler alert.

SPEAKER_00 20:54

Yeah, spoiler alert, the dog dies. Sorry, also, also at the end of Titanic, the ship sinks. I don't know if y'all knew that.

SPEAKER_05 21:01

But oh are you sure it wasn't the Olympia?

Books And Guardrails For Kids

SPEAKER_00 21:09

I don't know. I don't know. I do know that like seven of the eleven that were against the the Fed were on the Titanic when it or whatever it was that it sang. I do know that. Yeah, yeah. It's crazy how that works. What other I saw a star comment. I want to I want to comment on this. Okay. All right. So it depends. Right. I know this isn't a question, but I'm gonna answer it like it is a question. If they're young and they're like 25 and they've got one kid, yeah, maybe. Yeah, you know, but I think if your wife is 40 and she's got three or four kids by you, she should not, especially today. Unless she absolutely knows the man. Like if she's if you know he's been a friend of the family for years and he's a widower as well, then maybe. But my issue with like and I've had this discussion with my wife, and she really is the one who brought it to me and like really vocalized it to me was any man who wants a woman who's after her 40s and who has kids is not interested in her. He's interested in the children. But keep in mind, stuff by statistics, the amount of sexual abuse among children is the highest amongst step parents. Like 800% more or something like that. Yeah, it's like not like it's it's yeah, it's orders of magnitude higher than like a school teacher or a friend of the family, right? It's way higher, right? So now the other side for men, you know, would it like it's something that my wife would would I remarry? Well, probably not because again, nobody can stand me. But two, is the only reason I would is for my daughters because I can't teach my daughters how to be a woman. That's I am incapable of being able to do that, right? Only a woman can teach my daughters how to be women.

SPEAKER_05 23:12

But I think for men, men have that option to hire like an upair, you know, nanny, whatever you want to call it. Yeah, so uh a woman to step in and raise the children while he's at work.

SPEAKER_00 23:30

Absolutely, and but you know, she's gotta be like 60 years old, and she's got like really good cooking skills, you know. Like if she can make tamales, she's gonna be like Miss Poppins. Mrs.

SPEAKER_05 23:43

Poppins, except older.

SPEAKER_01 23:45

Yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_05 23:46

Mrs. Doubtfire, except not a man in a mask. Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 23:52

Song of Roland is really good. The audible book is equally as good. If you find it on, it's on audiobooks, not able. But Song of Rolland's great. All right, so another thing I was so I was re-listening to the Father Ripper book uh interview or this talk on how to raise a man. Such a good one, man.

SPEAKER_05 24:15

If y'all haven't listened to that, I should have done that in preparation for this.

Remarriage Fears And Child Safety

SPEAKER_00 24:20

It's about 70 minutes long, but it's absolutely worth listening to. And the he was going through like Adam and Eve, and what were the five sins of Adam, and the biggest one was effeminacy, and there was like different types of effeminacy. And I was thinking about that, and he could brought up examples like you know, of how like young men exhibited, like one way, one way he brought up how to tell if your son or a young man is effeminate, is if he has something that gives him pleasure, like you know, a cell phone or a computer or a toy or whatever, and you take it away from him, does he lose his mind? Yeah, and we all know what I mean by lose his mind. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then that tells you like they're disorderly attached to pleasure and not willing to do what's right, which is the definition of a feminist follow up. But so I was thinking that was like I was thinking that with my son, and that's that is the biggest issue I have with my son, is he's not attached to anything. Really? Like, I can't take stuff away from him does nothing, he just doesn't care at all. Like, and like that's so foreign to me because I would grow if I was growing up, like going back to my earlier example. If someone took my Nintendo away, I was losing my mind, right? Like, what do you mean you're gonna you know, get all crazy on it? But like, my son does not care, and I don't know if that's like he's just not materialist. I don't know if that's he, you know, he's much more virtuous in that capability of willing to give up something that gives him pleasure, or I don't know. So, like, I've had to figure out other things, or he knows it drives you crazy and he loves that. My my son is a ball of joy, like he wakes up at 5 30 in the morning ready to conquer the world. He's in a great mood as soon as he wakes up, and he's nine years old, you know, like so it's not like he's three, you know, but he just and he brings so much joy to the house. But I was like, man, what do I do? Like, how do I punish this kid? You know, that take uh take things away because I don't want like he's kind of after the point where I don't want to like spank him anymore, right? He's getting really too old for that. So I've gotten into like doing like you know, physical training with him basically, like, hey, you know, do push-ups until I tell you to stop, you know, and then he starts getting tired, all right, and I'll do it air squats until I tell you to stop, and I'll keep doing that until he's like obviously very visually tired, and then I'll stop all right, what'd you do wrong? Right, and then that's worked a little bit better, but I'm like, man, what a like that doesn't work for my kid, obviously. Either he's like heroic, he's got the heroic virtues already at nine years old, or that's just not something that gets to him. Yeah, so I'm like, well, how else do I do this? Yeah, what else do I do to figure this out for him? But what other way is there to do squats? I don't I don't understand. Is there a different way? He talked about wanting to join the Marines. I don't know if I'm okay with that. Right now, what would it not be? Who knows what it'll be in nine more years? He does, so Father Ripper gets into young men need hard work, right? They need physically hard work, they need to get off technology because technology, although not bad in and of itself, it does give us pleasure in using it. So getting them off the constant mind distractions of always listening to music or like my issues, like I listen to podcasts all the time, which I recognize by myself that's probably a an effeminacy uh issue of effeminacy I have, where I'm I'm always listening to something, but they need hard work and they need to do things that make them sweat, things that are physically hard, in order to kind of quell that, which we see in the you know, in the ascetics, you know, that where they would fast and uh especially in the monasteries, they would, you know, especially in the Benedictine monasteries, hard work was part of their charism, yeah, is part of their order in what they do because it helps a man to rightly order his desires and rightly order his priorities. Majorian proven, right? Hey, if we don't bring up Nietzsche at least twice, like we can't where to go lost it. We if we don't bring up Nietzsche at least twice, we can't summon Majorian.

SPEAKER_05 29:25

Does that count as once or twice since you had to repeat yourself? Shh, it's like Beal Juice, you can't do it again.

SPEAKER_00 29:33

His Sherman hands. Look, y'all are gonna drive a wedge between me and Chris Dragon. He may not like me, he may block me, but I'm not gonna talk that without him. It's just not gonna happen. He just he needs to man up. All right, let's see. Cardio, man, everyone needs cardio. I was I know I do. I was reading an article the other day. The um the you know, a hundred years ago, the average person walked more than 10 miles a day throughout the day.

SPEAKER_01 30:04

Like, no wonder fat.

SPEAKER_00 30:07

You know, like and especially the food is not great in either, but we have such high calorie density foods that you have basically on demand all the time, and we don't do any type of cardiovascular exercise on a daily basis because we're made for walking. That's like how our bodies are structured for long walks. It's just you know, some cultures got really tired of walking slow, so they started doing marathons running everywhere. But cardio is great for you. I've had to do it like my man, my sciatic has been kicking up the last two weeks, and when I'm walking, if I walk more than like 30 minutes, my shin goes numb. And it's that's never happened before. Someone kick it, they'll fix that. Yeah, do you I don't know if you ever did this. When you were growing up, did you have did you rode BMX bikes or like bikes a lot when you were young? Road, yeah, bikes, not BMX bikes, but when I was growing up, we had these pedals on our bikes called bear claws, and they were just really aggressive tread, yeah, metal spikes. Yeah, like if you ever ramped your bike off of a makeshift ramp that was like a two by four and like three bricks, and you slipped off and hit your shin on one of those, man, you went through another world of pain at that point.

SPEAKER_05 31:29

I I had the times when where like I'd have to like slam on the brakes and my foot would slip off the pedal, but uh it would go up the back of your leg and like take chunks out of your leg as it went up the back. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:49

So when I was in the Marines, I used to run five miles a day. It was like once you get used to running, it's not bad, but it's like it's getting to the point where you get used to running that sucks. And but then I started going away from five running five miles, I started just doing sprints, a lot of sprints, and that will change your life because it it trains you in a much different way, and you don't need hardly as much time doing sprints, yeah. You know, like so. For example, you do a high intensity interval training with sprints, like so. You'll say you'll you'll block off like 25 minutes. You'll say that's what I'm gonna do my cardio in. Your first five minutes, you're one running it like a very slow jog, and then in from you know, 30 seconds or three minutes to three minutes and 30 seconds, you sprint as fast as you can, and then you jog for 30 seconds, and then you sprint for 45 seconds as fast as you can, then you jog for 45 seconds, and then sprint for as hard as you can for a minute, right? And then jog, you know, for a minute, and then and then you go up to like two minutes, and then you stair step it back down and then or pyramid it back down and then and then jog for five minutes to finish it off. My I never got faster at running than when I did that. I stopped running long distances at that point because I would do that, and then I would run a five mile, and I would do it in like I would shave like three minutes off my five mile time just doing that, and I wasn't running five miles anymore. I would just do sprints, but that's much more efficient.

SPEAKER_05 33:16

I don't think we're talking about this sort of interval interval training.

SPEAKER_00 33:23

That might be a metabolic disorder. You you might want to seek a doctor if your hangover lasts for longer than four hours. Kids just don't know what it's like. Well, it is also because we don't have the safety for them to do it, but they don't know what it's like to just ride your bike all day. I used to go miles away from the house, like 10-15 miles away from my house to ride the bike back, like that Bluey episode about you know the 80s is 100% spot on.

SPEAKER_05 33:58

Yeah, I didn't get quite that much freedom. There was a well-known uh child abduction that happened a couple like two months before I was born here in Minnesota, so my mom it's made that right away. Yep.

Discipline That Actually Forms Boys

SPEAKER_00 34:17

Yeah, running sucks now, especially because I'm old and broken. Knees hurt all the time, my sadic hurts all the time, my back hurts all the time, bulging discs. But it doesn't mean I still can't do some type of cardio walking. Like my my driveway has a hill, and if I do it in a circle, I'm so I'm basically going uphill a quarter of the time, right? If I do circles now, right? It still sucks, man. I just I just realize I'm getting old when everything hurts when I wake up in the morning. In the city sewers, where'd you grow up?

SPEAKER_05 34:48

I mean, I could see that if it was like Las Vegas and you were in the storm tunnels, you know. We used to ride the bike and in the mutant, a teenage mutant ninja turtle, sir. You eat pizza with the giant mutated rat.

SPEAKER_00 35:05

Oh, should I have chicken lamps? Either we're not talking about the same chicken lamps.

SPEAKER_05 35:12

I think he's talking about them how Zoomers are using them these days. Zoomers do the stupidest stuff. Just go outside. They can't do that outside in public exposure.

SPEAKER_00 35:27

When we get when we when we finish up tonight, remind me to tell you a story from today when a guy had to go use the restroom during on the golf course. Just yeah, maybe remind me. Okay. I can't say it on here because we have the mixed company watching start using chicken mass. No, just go outside. You don't have to do that, just go outside. All right, so so all right, so for my kid, for my son, he started doing chores. Like hard chores, not just like make your bed chores. Like he he like today, he had to feed the pigs, water the pigs. And for those of y'all that don't have a farm, like you've got other things you can do. Like in the fall, like you can get leaves, you can mow along during the summer, right? He doesn't need to be 13 years old before he starts chores. The earlier you can do it, the better.

unknown 36:17

Right?

SPEAKER_00 36:18

Get him used, and you can stare stuff, start him at like five. Like, hey, make sure you're putting your plate up after dinner, right? Get him, get him used to a little bit of responsibility, and as they go on, as they get older, give them a little bit more harder, harder stuff to do. Like my son, he's nine, he'll be 10 in the in the fall. Like it he we're ramping it up, right? Getting him used to more responsibility, getting him used to doing harder things where he's sweating, right? Because again, that hard work is what helps shape them, and it helps them to understand the value of hard work and understanding accomplishment afterwards as well, right? Because it things come so easy to us now, like you can microwave a meal and have it ready in 30 minutes or 30 seconds. Whereas if you cook a really good meal, you can do it 45 minutes and it's way better. Realizing the varying of degrees on what good is, and especially with boys. So my son constantly asks me if he can go out in the shop and build stuff because I've just got like scrap wood all over the place, and so I'll give him a drill and some screws, and he'll just like put stuff together, and it just doesn't look like anything, but he calls it something. I was like, hey, and there's no boat I've ever seen, but you know, but he doesn't he enjoys doing that stuff, and that helps give him that desire to learn how to build, right? So when I build this chicken coop out here this summer to replace my other chicken coop, he can help like he's not gonna be able to do everything, right? But he can help, and yes, and yes, it will probably annoy me because I'm having to have this little boy help me with this, but it will help him so much, right? I for what was it? Oh, I was fixing our zero turn. I had to put new blades on it, and he wondered if he can help us. Yeah, come on. Just little things like hey, have me that this tool, I need this tool, bring it over here, and getting them to understand what tools are, like what the things are. Right, I had to explain to him where the crescent wrench is, or like, hey, it's a metal tool, the little spiral thing in it, right? He's he's oh okay, he knows what that is. He's oh I know what the spiral y thing is, but just getting them involved and doing stuff around the house, you know. If you're doing repairs to the house, whatever it is, get them involved so they realize what they should be doing, right? What they need to know how to do. I gotta turn the span on, it's getting hot here.

SPEAKER_05 38:46

It was 35 degrees and snowing on our way to mass yesterday.

SPEAKER_00 38:50

It's like 75 today. That's just humid. Yes, they don't have to lift weights yet, but you can get them doing body weight exercises, right? You know, I wouldn't I wouldn't teach a nine-year-old how to deadlift, right? Because he's not properly formed yet, he doesn't have the bone structure yet.

SPEAKER_05 39:10

Yeah, you don't want you, yeah, exactly. They need to be through at least starting puberty.

Chores Build Men Not Entitlement

SPEAKER_00 39:16

Yeah, but he can do bodyweight stuff, right? And or he could just do athletics of some type baseball, basketball, running, you know, jumping on the trampoline, whatever. Right? That that all requires some type of athletics. And he's so where you lie on when we start encouraging our kids to fast. Oh, well what the church says. I don't care what the church says. I wonder if you think what 14, right? Yeah, the church says 14.

SPEAKER_05 39:55

So Maddie was seven this year for Lent. And I wanted to get him kind of just started on, like, the you know, the idea of penance. So we we had him choose something and give up. And he gave up the I'm I'm sure I told everyone back during Lent, but he gave up Minecraft. He likes playing Minecraft, it's it's like his favorite pastime. He gave that up, and I I told him beforehand like, don't give up something that's gonna be super hard, specifically thinking, don't give up Minecraft, you're not you're not gonna do it, it's gonna make everyone's life miserable. You're gonna be miserable. No, he gave it up, didn't have a problem with it at all. I was so surprised, just um unbelievably surprised. But so I think next year we'll start him doing no meat on Fridays during Lent. Okay, whereas like Hope and I do no meat at all during Lent. Yeah, well, yeah, we'll probably start him with that, and then maybe the year after start with like a Ash Wednesday Good Friday fast and kind of ramp it up from there. So probably by like the age of 10, he'll be doing most of what we're doing. I'm thinking. I don't know, we'll see. We'll we'll see how it goes, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 41:19

Yeah, so we so our family, even down to the youngest, we've been a no-meet on Friday as a family for years at this point. So then that's been easy for the kids, like, but in fact, it's almost to the point now where it's not hard for them because like Fridays, if we're not eating meat and we're at home and you know we need something quick, it's a new tele sandwich. And they now they're like looking forward to Fridays. We don't do a lot of sweets, right? Yeah, yeah. They're like, okay, I'm like Friday, we get a new Tail of Sandwich. But as far as fasting, because I like when I fast, it's one meal. I don't do the you know, one big one regular size meal and two smaller snacks that are that makes it hard, like I think that makes it harder, you know what I mean? Like well, because you're not really ever fasting, right? Right? And because the whole point of fasting is not to get food at all. Like the and that you when when people do intermittent fasting, they're okay, right? So stop eating at four, but between four and midnight, you can have one small meal that's not the size of you know, one small size that's not the size of a meal, you know. No, it's you stop eating until you start eating the next day, right? So the whole purpose, and physiologically, now we know when you get into a fasting state, you have in your body what's called phagocytes. I said that correctly, and they are basically cells in your body that go around and eat improperly performing cells or dead cells, right? And so when they do that, they're basically re regenerating your body into its optimum performance when you're doing that. And for my you know, for our kids, I was thinking about this this year with Lance because the the big thing with this year for us was we're like, we're not doing any dessert whatsoever. Like we would do like desserts on Sunday only, right?

SPEAKER_01 43:18

Right.

SPEAKER_00 43:19

Uh, but we were like, we're not doing any. And when we finally got to Easter, that made Easter so much bigger to them because they love you know, like cookies or brownies or whatever, you know, that that we make. And but when we had nothing, and then Easter hit, and like they were super excited about being able to celebrate and be able to get it desserts, and so I'm at a point now like, okay, my oldest, she's gonna start fasting with us. Yeah, my boy can probably start fasting with us as well. But my youngest, she already doesn't eat, so in fact, she'll not eat dinner, and then the next morning she'll be hung. Hungry, she'll throw up, like her blood sugar is so low. So I don't want to introduce her to fasting no long time because she just she already doesn't eat, she's just so busy wanting to play. But the you know, with the my two oldest, I'm like, okay, we're gonna start fasting here soon. Probably we'll probably start this advent for them and get them kind of eased into it with advent that way. When Lent comes around next year, uh it's a little easier for them to do. But I I I've got a plan for them Thursday night. Okay, make sure you eat a good meal Thursday night, right? Because you're not used to fasting yet. Much like I don't come off coffee anymore for Lent because I don't that's not fair to everybody else around me. Right? So it's not fair to us for me to just throw my kids in the deep end on fasting out of nowhere, right? Because they they're not used to being like that, they're not used to going without food that long. Uh we'll probably start in Advent this year and get them like, hey, you're not gonna eat breakfast this year during Advent at all. Right? And then you'll have your first meal at lunch and then dinner. Like we'll start easing them into it that way. Because that's also a good it's a good method of building resilience, especially if we get into a a time here soon where food isn't as plentiful as it has been for the last 80 years. Yeah, you know, and that'll help they won't quite be as out of sorts if that event happens. Yes. Autophagy or autophagy, depends on if you're medically trained or not.

SPEAKER_05 45:41

But is it is it autophagy or autophagy? It's autophagy.

Fasting As Training For The Soul

SPEAKER_00 45:47

Your body's basically eating itself when you're in a fasting state. You watch the majority in way too much. Yeah. Way too much. Yeah. But I I think it's interesting that the the church, especially since the 60s, has lowered the standard and lowered the bars so far that now we're almost to the point where like your children have to be 14 years old and to fast, but it's not really even fasting. No, right. Right. I think lowering the standards for everything has decreased the quality of Christian in the world because we're not used to doing without on anything, especially in the first world. Yeah. Yeah. Like it, how much hardcore were those kids that we have now, than we are now.

SPEAKER_05 47:05

Well, I mean, I know growing up, like now, it wasn't the old rules, but like I don't remember a time eating meat on Fridays during Led. You know, yeah. I don't remember a time not fasting on Ash Wednesday or Good Friday.

SPEAKER_00 47:27

See, it was it was different. Like we didn't never we just abstained, we never fasted growing up. And you know, I grew up in you know, a fairly Catholic town, right? And very populated by a lot of German Catholics. In fact, I mean you know, Fridays throughout the year, we always went to like we had a fish restaurant called Moby Dick, we'd go to all the time, and it was like right around the corner from our parish. Yeah, we used to go there all the time, and we we actually went there throughout the week too, because we liked it so much. But it wasn't until I came back to the faith like 11 years ago that I had a priest correct me on the difference between abstaining and fasting, right? Well, you know, I thought they were the same thing, I didn't know what the hell I was talking about, and he had to correct me because that's how out of con out of sorts I was in the faith. I just was never taught that. Like I knew what fasting was, but not in the context of the faith. I thought it was like something different, right? But no, and and I didn't I didn't grow up with that, but now I'm trying to change that for my kids now and get them get them to understand the the ebb and flow of living a Catholic life. And you know, uh I say this all the time. My kids hopefully are less broken than I am, and less broken than me and my wife are, and then hopefully their kids are even less broken than they are, and hopefully by that time their great their grandkids are not broken at all. They are able to see what healthy relationships and what virtuous living is, but they don't even understand what do you mean great-granddad was you know his parents were divorced? What's divorce? Yeah, that's where we get.

SPEAKER_05 49:17

Yeah, you know, I don't know if I brought my kids in here right now and asked them what divorce was, if they would know.

SPEAKER_00 49:28

And that's a good thing. My my kids would because we have family members that go around that they see it from. And but I remember when my oldest was young and we watched a movie, and she didn't understand why the mommy and daddy don't live together. You know, and I was like, uh, two seven years old, how do I you know educate you on what divorce is? Right. But now she knows because she reads a lot now, too. So she reads a lot of books and it comes up in books and stuff like Little House with a prairie, like someone got divorced in that one. Um so she's she's becoming aware of these things just through the things she read. So with your how old's your oldest seven. Okay. So have you started getting him involved in any chores, any hard things to do around the house, hard things to help with mom?

SPEAKER_05 50:27

A little bit, a little bit this weekend. I'm actually gonna take him and Iggy or the five-year-old, out with a a friend. We're gonna drive the back roads through the woods picking up trash. It's like the the the roads that we hunt on in the fall, and my friend has a a wildlife tour business, and he drives these roads you know through the summer too. So we're gonna go out and basically walk the roads and pick up as much trash as we can. So that will be that'll be good for the boys, yeah.

Service And Healthy Confrontation

SPEAKER_00 51:05

Especially emulating the boys to do things that don't immediately benefit them, yeah. Right, or how to treat people that can do nothing for you, right? Right. Um, so like when we're out to eat, they always see me being very cordial, very nice to our servers, or if we go to the store, I'm very nice, like even if they're me, if they're like honorary to me, or like just mean spirited to me, they always see me be cordial and very, you know, kind to these people. And they'll, you know, that I've they've raised the question before like, Daddy, what they were mean to you. Why did you or are you not mean back? I was like, why why would I do that? Right? How does that help by doing that? Right. This person, we don't know what kind of day they were having, right? They they may have lost some of that day, or they may have had some type of tragedy that happened earlier. They it had them in that that that attitude, that behavior. So we have to give people the the benefit of the doubt. Now, I'm not gonna allow someone to walk all over me, right? And I'll push back when I need to, but small things like that is just not worth it. But also helping the kids understand, especially my son, on doing things for people that can do nothing for you. Yep, right. You there where there's no quid pro quo, there's no tit for tat, right? There's no exchange at all. It's just you doing something for someone and not expecting anything out of it. That is a huge lesson to teach boys because that then helps them understand how we protect the weak as well. Yeah, we have so many young boys who are and young men who are uh afraid of confrontation, right? Because they were raised by weak men or by women, and women abore confrontation, they hate it, right? In fact, it makes my wife uncomfortable when I got get confrontational with people, and but she knows now she knows I've been married for almost 18 years to me. That she's like, I'm gonna let him handle it, right? Have you ever seen that that video? We might showed it on the show. I can't remember if we have of the guy who's out walking with his girlfriend, and a guy goes up and picks a fight with him, yeah, and she's trying to pull him back and hold him back, and she ends up just holding his arms, so and the guy's acting like he's gonna hit him. And he's like, Man, I told you. And then he's like, You failed, you failed the test, you know. But that's what women do, like they will rather hold you down and let you get beat up than for you to come confront somebody. That's just that's that's their need to be protected by the system, so they don't they are never confrontational, right? Which is why like no fault divorce and the welfare state has been horrible for families because it exacerbates women's desire to never go against the grain, that way they're always protected by the system. I heard Santa the other day it was something like 60% of women are on some type of psychological medication. That's a lot of women, but that also means 40% of women are walking around unmedicated, which I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_01 54:39

My wife's gonna hate that one.

SPEAKER_05 54:43

Oh man. There's 25 people watching this right now.

SPEAKER_00 54:49

Really? That's it. Maybe they should be medicated. They probably should after this, after watching this for 45 minutes. Uh I never saw my death in anyone's eyes until I saw it my wife's. What did you do to piss her off? I know. I hope she didn't teach her how to shoot. Yeah, I mean, like, if you like nothing against like Cavalso's is in a position where he needs to stop picking people he's interested in. He needs someone else to pick for him because he doesn't know how to pick, right? He his his judgment is lacking, but that's of course, so let's get into that. That's a majority of men. It is most of you all, my and I'm including myself in my in an earlier life before I met my wife, because that was just God's grace, like he was having mercy on me by introducing me to my wife. But I was horrible at picking women because I grew up in a broken home, so I thought love was yelling and berating somebody and then berating you, right? I didn't have a healthy example of love in my house, so I kept picking broken women who treated me like I saw my mom treat her boyfriends and my dad, right? A lot of us coming from those broken homes and coming from those broken situations and those horrible examples of marriage, we should not be picking the people we are interested in. We need somebody that who has a marriage that we want to be like. You should be looking to them and asking them, hey, can you help me introduce me to someone that would be good for me? Right? Because only they are going to be able to detect those red flags that you are unable to even see.

SPEAKER_05 56:47

So, what you're saying is someone needs to start up a matchmaking matchmaking service. No, charge people 500 bucks for it.

SPEAKER_00 56:54

No, you need to go to your parish and have a family. No, and specifically, never do a matchmaking service online. That is a horrible idea. They cannot properly, you know how easy it is to put on a six-month facade to somebody so they think you're the best version of yourself, right? So you need to find you need someone at your local parish that knows both of you, right? And because the the other thing you have to worry about as well is if you aren't in a process of trying to better yourself, why would they want to saddle you to someone who's healthy? Right? You then are the red flag that they don't want to impose on a healthy young lady, right? So you have to get yourself right, and once you get to that point where you are able to be in a healthy relationship, then you seek someone for a healthy plus. And that's a seeking ship if I ever saw one. We start calling that Titanic Minus. Titanic Minus. Golly man, Olympia minus they've lost like a third of their talent in like two weeks.

SPEAKER_05 58:07

Yeah, and that that's just the the front end people. Apparently, they've lost a few on the back end, too. Oh, really? Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 58:17

I don't know a priest who has that time. Okay, like our priest doesn't. No way. You know, you're really you really need to to find a like a foundational couple at your parish that knows everybody and can help with that. Yeah. That's why you know it it's so here in Alabama we have a town called Coleman. Coleman is a very Catholic town. Right outside of Coleman is the Shrine of the Most Blessed Sacrament where Mother Angelica has her call her convent at. But they also have three other parishes in this small Alabama town. In fact, there is a city ordinance. I don't know if it's still a city ordinance, but it had been for a long time that no building in the town can be built higher than the Catholic Church.

unknown 59:05

Right?

SPEAKER_00 59:06

Nice. And it was in the center of the in fact, the name of the church is Sacred Heart in Coleman. It's a beautiful old parish. It's a you know, Novasoro parish, but they but Coleman is also the location of the only traditional monastery in the southeast. Yeah, they used to be set of contest, and our prior bishop, Bishop Baker, brought it back into the fold. But it's you know, towns like that are where you would see the strongest relationships because it was the center of life in that town. And we've gotten away from that because we're transient Catholics. Like I have to travel 45 minutes to my parish. The nearest parish to me, even still, is 20 minutes away. So what's another 20 minutes to get to a light mass? I did not meet my wife at church. Me neither. I met my wife on an old website called MySpace. I don't know if y'all remember that, but Tom. Tom was a good one.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:18

You had some sort of emo music playing in the background, didn't you? I know it. I did.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:27

In fact, I had I heard a guy going by today at the event I was at today, and he was playing Our Lady Peace, Our Lady of Peace. Um, and I instantly recognized it. And he's looking, he's older than I am. I was like, Well, how do you know this song, first of all? But uh, we're just reminiscing on like all the old emo songs we used to listen to. So, what are your thoughts on finding a matchmaker for young men?

SPEAKER_05 1:00:57

Man, I don't know. It's I don't know what I'm gonna do for my kids. You know, if we stay in this area, it's gonna be really rough, especially in like 10 years when they're all that age, because I mean it's just demographically dying.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:17

There there are no other uh there there are no other fit like kids their age, really, right now in in the two local parishes. So like I have no idea.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:30

Like, do you think do you think those parishes have a have a chance of being around in 10 years?

SPEAKER_05 1:01:35

One of the two definitely does, potentially both, just due to the tourist traffic, you know, like like in terms of number of actual parishioners, it's really rough, and it probably demographically only gonna get worse as the boomers die. But you know, in the summer, three-quarters of the people, you know, at mass are from out of town, and like I don't see that declining a ton, so there's a good chance the parishes are kept around just to have a Catholic parish, uh, because like more people come into the Boundary Waters Canoe area in these towns than go to Disney World, yeah, in an average year, you know what I mean? So, like even though the town has 3,000 3,500 people on your average summer weekend, there's 20,000 people going through there, yeah. So I I don't see them close, you know, removing the ability for Catholics to go to mass, yeah, just because the pair the the number of parishioners is low.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:44

Do you think that's a situation where there is not really any good prospects for your children in the next 10 years? Do you that's a situation where that might encourage you to move somewhere else?

SPEAKER_05 1:02:59

Oh, yeah, I think a lot of it is going to depend on probably what happens with the Latin Mass long term. Yeah, like right now, I I wouldn't move to a a diocesan or ecclesia day parish, right? Because I mean, right now our diocesan Latin Mass is you know, it's on another two-year dispensation from T traditionus custodas, so who knows what's gonna happen there? All the Ecclesia Day parishes could be shut down by their bishops at any point in time. So the SSPX, for all it's you know, what whether you love them or hate them, like they are the only TLM parishes, you know, that are really part of a church the church, you know. Does that set a independent parishes not with notwithstanding, but like the the SSPX are the only ones where you could say for sure in 10 years they're probably gonna be there, yeah. But the nearest SSPX parish is four hours away, and I there's that would be literally the only reason to move there. There's no other it would have all the issues that we moved away from six years ago when we got out of the yeah, the Twin Cities. So until that gets a little bit more solid, I don't see a reason to move. Yeah, but you know, I guess if we're still here in 10 years, I think I think one, just all the connections I you know I've made with other good Catholic families in the state and even throughout the whole country, like I could see personal connections being probably the best way to to to kind of matchmake my children, yeah, or like the local TLM, even though it's a two-hour drive, like it's not that far, and we're there, you know, fairly often. So I could see you know doing some sort of matchmaking work there, but yeah.

Finding Spouses In Small Parishes

SPEAKER_00 1:05:05

Yeah, I uh I know in our parish we have a obvious lack of young men between like 18 and 24 that aren't like the tweed and pipe, you know bifocal Catholics, right? Like that's right, they're all academia of some sort, sort, or whatever. We have some good young men, but it's not enough because we have a glutton of young women in that age who are like they want to be TLM pairs. Yeah. They want nothing to do with the workforce, they just want to be stay-at-home moms that homeschool their kids and raise them in the faith, right? And the young men, unfortunately, do not have the desirability to attract these young women because they're all. Like you know, their stick figures, right? They've got no meat on their bones. They've probably never seen a day of hard work in their life, or they've got their nose in the book all the time. They'd rather argue the finer points of you know encyclicals than learning how to turn a wrench.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:17

You know, we're doing good series on encyclicals.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:19

Shut up. That was a purposeful dig.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:22

I know, I know.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:24

But I mean that they're much more interested in that in that aspect than doing anything that would help them become better men. Especially today. I don't know if y'all had to try and hire anybody to do anything at your house, but if it's not more than$10,000, no worker wants to do it. Like you better learn how to do these things yourself. Like this weekend, I replaced a faucet, I repaired a faucet, I repaired our stove, and three days before that had to repair our lawnmower because you cannot get people to do it anymore because it doesn't is not a certain amount of money because they're so in high demand, they're not willing to even touch it. So you have to be willing to do these things on your own now as a man, like our parents did, because they had no one to pay to do it at the time. You could have, or they couldn't afford it, so they had to do it on their own. That's why that's why all these boomer dads, like, yeah, they'll be an engineer, but they can also build a deck and rebuild a motor all at the same time. It's like they just didn't want to pay money for people to do it, you know. And so the I I've tossed around I know Chris from the telegram, I was like, hey, I need you to bring your sons over here to Birmingham, and I'm gonna introduce them to some women here, and I'm gonna send some of these women over the you all over in Texas to introduce your parish, careful how you word stuff like that.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:47

Sounds a little bit like trafficking.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:49

Hey, if it gets them married, I mean, mission accomplished. But like there needs to be like a city exchange program for Trads. Like we like real close to us is Atlanta. I'm like, hey, we got an FSSP parish over there, we got a SSPX parish over there. Like put out like a flyer. Hey, y'all come to mass to for up for us on a Sunday, and we'll take a bus of people over there and we'll just like start intermingling communities, right? It's not a bad idea.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:22

A bus and yeah, it's put all the young kids on it.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:24

Yeah, probably hey, y'all are gonna go to mass somewhere in Roswell, you know, this this Sunday. Go to the SSPX parish up there and meet some meet some folks and like start cross-pollinating these communities, yeah. Because it's as Ocean was saying earlier, you know, like between me and you and Anthony and Pantile, Pantile, like all of our wives are converts, but I don't think that's a route for every young man. No, it can't be. Why start a marriage on rocky ground if you don't have to? Like the hardest, my wife would tell you, like, our the hardest point in our marriage was not when I was being shot at daily in Afghanistan. It was not when I was running into fire, you know, buildings on fire when I was a firefighter. It's when we weren't on the same footing when it came to the faith 10 years into our marriage. Like that's when she like had doubts about if we were gonna make it. And why you marriage is hard enough. You should not start it on hard mode by being of different faith if you don't have it. Now it's different if you're kind of like thinking about becoming Catholic, but you're already dating this girl, right? Or you're married already, and then like, hey, I'm you know, think about you know, we're thinking about going become Catholic or thinking about converting, and like there's a struggle then, that's different. But like starting off, and like you're you know the Catholic Church is the one true faith, you know that there's no salvation outside the church, and then you go seek a woman who's not Catholic, you're starting off on hard mode, and you don't need to. Yeah, find someone that is on your same level of belief or at least fidelity towards the church, even if they aren't, they can't, you know, give you the the definition of you know any in you know any term in the like I'm drawing a blank right now because I've had a long day, but any any facet of the faith, though don't worry about that. As long as she's willing, well, as long as you're able to be a man and take lead, your wife will want to follow you, yeah, and she'll want to go where you're going.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:42

I will say, in I will say that in many in some cases it might be easier if if you're a trad or traditionally minded Catholic man to find and convert serious Protestant woman than your average novice oral Catholic woman.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:10

In some cases, I I I've put a lot of thought on that question in that topic because Tim Gordon brought that up initially, right? And so I've thought about it since then. I think the the hinge point of that dynamic is you have to be a man that is living his faith, not just going to mass on Sundays, right, and and reading the Vulgate, right? That's not enough. Like you have to have a deep prayer life, you have to be constantly denying yourself, and you've also got to be willing to tell your girlfriend no. Like, how much violence are we gonna have to go through in the United States because men aren't willing to tell women no? Oh, so much. And so I I don't disagree. I think it would be easier unless you're going well, unless like you have a unicorn novice order around. Right, yeah, then target that dynamic that that demographic. But if you don't have that, all you have is Latin mass with a bunch of Presbyterians, like you know, yeah, go that route. But you have to be you have to be walking the walk. You cannot just be a you know intellectual Catholic only, and you're still you know watching pornography and and playing video games 12 hours a day on the weekends, like that that ain't good, brother. You you you're not even a man yet yourself, and you want a woman to submit to you, you gotta be a man first. You gotta deny yourself the things that you think you want. You know, like video games, and I this is gonna draw a lot from some people who watch the show. Video games are robbing you of the time and your ability to fully build out who you are supposed to be. They are such a time suck. And and most video, and I don't say all video games because I don't play video games anymore, and I don't want to lump them all in the same thing, but most video games no one should be playing at all because they are not helping you to grow in a healthy manner towards God at all, and they're introducing you to topics and situations and images that you should not ever see what there's a man would say Tim Gordon is not someone that anyone should be looking up to as a role model. Dude's smart, do not get me wrong, and he knows a lot, and he he absolutely loves his wife. I do not doubt that whatsoever. But the way he treats some people belies some underlying issues that he's never dealt with. The the types of people he surrounds himself with also shows a blind spot on certain types of behaviors. But like I said, he puts out a lot of good information, he has really good shows. I I am 95% locks up with him about almost every topic other than the SSPX. He is woefully blind on that topic, like ENJ is with anything after Vatican 2. But there are you but also no, you don't have to be in entire agreement with someone to respect them, right? We don't we are we don't practice Talmudic purity rituals, it's not what we do. You are allowed to disagree with people, but also be aware that just because someone says some good things that you like doesn't mean you have to agree with them on everything either. You can you can disagree with them about some stuff.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:28

Gosh knows I disagree with Anthony.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:34

I gotta say though, last week Your All's Two Sharp Shows was probably the best two shows I've ever done. And I hate to say that about it.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:44

Other people have said that too.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:46

It was it was probably the yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:48

Yeah, I think we're gonna get Josh and Daniel on again to do maybe.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:54

Oh, they got their show tonight, don't they?

SPEAKER_05 1:15:56

Yeah, I think so. I'm gonna have to watch it tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow at the gym. Well, it turns out all the UFO videos they released last week were a big old pile of nothing.

Men Must Lead Before They Date

SPEAKER_00 1:16:04

They were like, how long have we had 4K cameras and they're still putting out pictures of potatoes?

SPEAKER_05 1:16:11

Or they're passing off video of a laser being pointed at a camera from like those released two years ago, you know. Everyone's like, Oh, look, it's an angel. No, you idiot, that's light refracting off of glass.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:26

Those are entirely two different things, right? You have Jerry Springer, Anthony, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:16:35

And then you have Scott Hahn Anthony, and then you have Scott Hahn Anthony.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:42

Oh man. All right, so let's get back to the topic. Man, we were way off topic. So one other thing that I've been helping my son to understand is the willingness to sacrifice himself for his sisters, yes, right. And like it's it's he's not, keep that in mind. So it's hard for him to see anything outside of his own selfish desires right now. Yes, it's gonna require some time. But I put him in positions like the other night, I was wrestling with the kids, and I was purposely going after his sisters to get him to try and protect them, right? Eventually he caught on, but then at the beginning it was all about save myself, right? Uh, because like the game was like I'm wrestling with it, and like and when I get them, I just tickle them until like came and got me off of them. Then I'd yoke after them, and so I kept doing that until he figured out like his job is to protect. So eventually he figured it out, and he kept doing it, right? But then I would go after him, and the girls would like scatter. That's a chance, go except for uh except for one of my daughters, she's she uh she that's a whole other story. She would cut, she would she likes to jump on my back and like try and grab me and like pull me down, but she weighs like 40 pounds, so she can't do anything, right? Uh but yeah, like they would just scatter. So eventually he figured it out. So I I'm continually going to be putting him in position, just playing, right? So, because that's how boys learn, they learn it through playing first, yes, rough posting, wrestling, all so getting in positions like that where he understands that, you know, and so eventually he'll get to that point where it's just second nature. Do you remember that story a couple years ago of that little boy who saved his daughter?

SPEAKER_05 1:18:32

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I know exactly.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:36

Like it had a big chunk taken out of his face and everything, right? And the quote they had from that kid when they asked him why he did that, and it no, it's not verbatim, keep that in mind. Like, you can go find it somewhere, but it boiled down to was I was willing to die to save my sister. And this boy's like seven years old, right? That dad is doing something right, right? If if he does nothing else right, he's done that right. And that's the that's the attitude we should be instilling in all of our sons, is be willing to sacrifice yourself to protect someone else.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:11

He said, if anyone has to die, it should be me. I am the big brother.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:15

Exactly. And that I was telling the story to my kids, you know, last year, I think. And they always want to like when you tell kids a funny story, they always want you to retell it all the time. When I was young, I was probably five or six. And remember, like I grew up poor white trash, so we were in my backyard, my backyard in my at our house, behind it was an alley, and then on the other side of the alley was the backyards of other houses, right? So the alley behind the backyards. But we used to play in the alley all the time, and down that down the alley from us a little bit was another house, and it was just a house full of you know degenerates, basically. Yeah, people partied all the time. Remember, this is in the 80s, so like they just you know, just out drinking all night and whatever and having parties in the backyard. But they used to have this pit bull that was on a chain. And I remember I was out, we were out playing in the backyard and went into the alley, and I'm I'm five or six years old, and my brother was like three or two or three, but he was still in diapers, right? At the time, like I don't know, so I might have been a little younger, but I remember my brother being in diapers, and we were playing down the alley, and this house was having a party in the middle of a Saturday, and their dog on the chain was like barking at us, like stretching the chain, right? Trying to get to me and my brother. We weren't really thinking about it because we used to walk by the house all the time, the dog did that all the time. Well, this time the dog broke the chain, right? Started coming at me and my brother, and so we're running, and I'm pushing my brother in front of me, right? Trying to get him right, but he's like in a diaper, so he's probably two, maybe three of the oldest, you know. I don't know. My parents might have been lazy and didn't want to give him off diapers. I don't know, I don't remember. But uh, but I'm pushing him in front of me, so like he he gets home because he's got little stubby legs, you know, he's like wearing like a pigeon. And so I'm pushing in front of me, and we're getting to the house, and but there's a car parked in by the back of our house, and I pick up my brother and I throw him on the back of the the up on the hood of the car, and I jump up and the pit bull comes up and bites my brother on the butt and pulls the diaper off of them, right? And then my dad comes out and like chases the dog away, right? Gets it away. But my brother to this day still remembers that, right? And I don't know how he remembers anything because I don't remember a lot from my childhood because there's a lot of trauma involved, right? He still remembers that to this day, that I was pushing him to keep him away from the dog and putting myself between them and the dog, and then throwing him up on the back of the the car. And it's interesting to me that how that's a memory that my brother still remembers to this day. And this was 40 years ago, you know. But yeah, pit bulls should all be put down 100. I and I used to own a pit bull. Well, he's like half pit bull, half lab, all retard. But did you just grab your dog or you both?

SPEAKER_05 1:22:23

Makes sense. They say dogs are like their owners.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:27

He was he was so dumb. He was the dumb. I remember we were in the we were in the living room day, and he's just like looking at me, and he's sitting right next to the to the uh coffee table, and he sneezed and hit his face on the toppy table. You are the dumbest dog. Oh my god. Yeah, Matt Walsh is correct on the pulpit pit bulls, they should all be put down. They were a dog that was specifically bred for one initially was to literally take down a bull, but then they were bred to fight. So their jaws are so strong that they can clench down and that you can never get them off. They are the they're way past redeemable at this point.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:12

I wonder.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:14

Never mind. Teach boys not to complain.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:18

Do you think what if we negotiated concessions from the Chinese if we sent them all of our pitbulls?

SPEAKER_00 1:23:27

Like it's a food source? Yeah, food source. What would we get in return? Like all of our farmland?

SPEAKER_05 1:23:39

They they can take all the pit no, no, no. They they can take all the pitbull owners for us too. That's what we get in return.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:47

Okay. So then like the 13% goes down to like two percent? Something like that.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:56

Then they don't then you know they don't need the wiggers and the uh Uyghurs, not Wiggers guys, in the concentration camps for kidney transplants.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:08

I mean, I think that's a good deal. I'd make that deal. That's a damn good deal. If y'all aren't in on Telegram, I uh posted a picture of where Anthony used to hang out.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:20

Probably didn't see that. I didn't see that. I did not say wiggers, I said wiggers. He said wiggers, not wiggers. Come on, ocean.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:33

I mean it's very obvious he said wiggers, not wiggers. Very clear, super clear, couldn't be any clearer. But yes, we're so stupid. Complaining boys, complaining men are now keep in mind there's a difference between complaining and not doing about it, and complaining and doing it anyway, right? So I'll complain, but I'll do it anyway. Yeah, I'm the same way, right? But the people who complain to get out of doing it, hopefully hoping that you just give up and don't want to fight them on it. Yes, I agree. That's horrible. And that's it, it it it shows a high degree of effeminacy again. Again, going back to the one of the original sins that Adam committed in the garden. He's unwilling to do what is hard because he doesn't want to separate himself from pleasure, the pleasure of doing whatever he's doing right then. But yes, I agree 100%.

Teaching Boys To Protect Others

SPEAKER_05 1:25:41

I've been I've been reading Warren Carroll's The Last Crusade, his history of the really like history of the first year of the Spanish Civil War. And I mean, there's so much of it that that strikes you. One, like if you were taught anything about the Spanish Civil War at all in American schools, it's that you know the the nationalists were evil fascists, like like Mussolini and Hitler and were Nazis basically, and the Republicans were just like freedom-loving Americans, and that's all just total BS. But like one of one of the passages that really struck me was the there's this castle in Tol in the old capital of Spain called Toledo, right? And the castle, which they call the Alcazar, was it was being used as a military academy at the time when the when the nationalists rose up against the republic, and the the the rising by the nationalists was really uh among the officers. So the the the commandant of the academy, you know, joined the joined the nationalists and held this the alcazar against the republicans for for months, basically. And but at one point, you know, so he the the com the commandant lived in Tolate Toledo, his family lived there too, and the Republicans captured one of his sons, uh his 24-year-old son, Luis. And and they give they gave Luis the phone. They they called the the Alcazar and has to speak to the commander and gave his son the phone. And you know, he he here I have a passage here. It says, Luis was then given the phone. Papa, he cried, What is happening, my boy? Nothing, Luis answered. They say they're going to shoot me if the Alcazar does not surrender, but don't worry about me. If it is true, replied his father, commend your soul to God, shout Viva Espana, and die like a hero. Goodbye, my son. A kiss. Goodbye, father, a very big kiss. Like just just the the one the son didn't the the son didn't beg his father. To surrender to save his life. I'm not. He he said, Don't worry about me. And then his father basically tells him, like, you know, in a lot less words, but like, I I can't surrender. Like, if the if you're gonna die, you know, give your soul to God and and be brave. And then they just said goodbye. And like, you can tell that that that that boy, well, he wasn't a boy, he was 24. Like, you know how he had to have been raised his whole life, yeah, you know, for for that moment, and to think how terrible it was for his his father is just I don't know if I could do that.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:37

So do you think that he's he's never seen his dad obviously give his life yet, right? Right. So he put himself in the position is like, what would my dad do?

unknown 1:28:49

Right.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:50

So living a whole life of seeing how his dad acted, how his dad behaved, how his dad responded to things, and the first thing I thought of if my dad was in this position, what would he do? Yeah, all right, and that's and that's what he did, right? Even though he's never seen his dad do that because obviously he wouldn't be talking to his dad, but you know, I think that is the the biggest thing we can do to raise good young men, is be who you want them to be, right? If you don't want your son being soft and effeminate, don't be soft and effeminate, like be that idol for him to follow, right? Be that example for him. If you don't want your son to complain or kvetch, as was said in the comments earlier, then don't right, and that because your son is gonna pick up on what you do and think that's what he should do, right? So the way my son sees me treat his mother and the way I love my wife is how my son will learn to treat his wife when he's older, if he if he chooses to be married and not discern a vocation to the priesthood, right? But even if he does discert a vocation to the priesthood, he'll understand that's what men do, they give themselves up to him, right? It's the same thing with my daughters. How they see me treat their mother is how they will want to be treated by their spouse, right? Because that's what they know love is. And so if you don't want your son to be on his phone all day, I'm talking to myself here, okay, don't be on your phone all day. When they see you, if you're on your phone all the time, that's what they're gonna think they should be doing. And again, I'm like I'm literally looking at myself in the camera, telling myself this right now. That's my that's my issue, right? I'm on my phone way too much, and I my wife reminds me of that all the time, and that I never buck her on it either. I don't think she's a nag, I don't tell her she's nagging me or anything because I know she's right, and so I don't I just take the criticism and I accept it and I put the phone down.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:07

You know, in the end, like if if your son becomes a good man, it's either because of your example or in spite of your example, and it's a hell of a lot easier for them to become a good man because of your example than in spite of, and it leaves a lot less crap to deal for them to deal with afterwards, too. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:30

I tell my son pretty regularly, my goal for him is to be better than me, and so he will never have to worry about me putting him down, right? Or he will never have to worry about any type of jealousy or envy for me because he's accomplishing things that I never accomplished. I want him to, I want him to be a better man than I am, which is why I'm raising him the way I am. He is way farther in his journey with the Lord than I than I was 10 years ago, right? Because that's what I've raised him to do, and I want him to be a way better man than me. That way, when he looks back on how I raised him, he realizes like my dad gave me what he didn't have. Right? I gave him the chance to be the man he's gonna grow to be, and that means sacrifice on my side, giving up some of the things I want to do. I would love to go to the range every day. I would love to spend all my money on you know guns and ammo and camping, and but I don't because I realize my priorities of raising my family and taking care of my wife are more important than the things that I want. And I hope my son realizes that one day when he's older, that I was giving him the opportunity to be a better man than I ever was. So autofaggy. What are we talking about here? I don't even know. Smill yourself in garlic and butter in your pell of vampires better. The chat's in a completely different topic right now. I don't even know what they're talking about. Many such cases. If the Strait of Hermuz is not open by the end of this week, we will run out of oil reserves to refine into fuel by July 4th weekend.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:03

Well, that's not great. No, it's not. No, I mean that's that's that's oil to refine into fuel, that's not necessarily fuel itself. Correct. Correct. Bro, I bought it for$4.19 today in Alabama. I I did$409 this morning.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:27

It's look, I'll pay$6 a gallon if it gets rid of all the Indians. I'm fine with that.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:35

You say two Paul.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:52

Keep in mind, four dollars a gas, dollars a gallon gas right now adjusted with inflation is like three ten years ago.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:02

Yeah, I mean it's less than what was yeah, then like when it got bad and what like what 2002, 2003. It's not as bad as it was in what 2008, but it's close.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:18

But it it is Steve from Census Fidelion was talking about how the expensiveness of gas is really going to turn these people who drive 45 minutes to light mass, like it's they're really gonna have to start either prioritizing or or not go the light mass. Yeah. And I'm not at that point yet, because like you know,$4 a gallon of gas is not breaking me right now. But if we get to like$10 a gallon, it might break me. I might be working from home for a while. I'll say that. I will not be going to the office. It'll be cheaper for me to have an office and not go to it than to go to the office. I don't I don't necessarily think so. I'm not as down on the midterms as everybody else is. I do I do not hear a whole lot of complaining about gas right now by people in in real life. I'm not talking about X is not real life, right? In person, I do not hear a lot of complaining from people about gas. I don't think it's as big as an issue as we think it is. I think it's you know, we know that it's a leading indicator of things to get worse, but uh most Americans are so short-sighted they don't see that, so that they don't think it's as big of an issue right now. We'll always be politically homeless. I was listening to Focus Trip Saturday, and he had a couple of groupers on and an anti-group, right? And they're arguing stuff, and focus is I'm not trying to put words in his mouth, but his so far as I could tell, his opinion is there's no political situation, there's no political solution to our situation. This is going to end with violence, right? Whereas the groupers are like, no, you know, we're just gonna give up the two that you we're giving up the 26 midterms to to work on 2028, and like at what point, and because they I sent a very off-color text to Rob about Nicholas Joe front ends.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:32

You did that was that was uh that was a strong one to wake up to.

SPEAKER_00 1:37:36

I did I know it was at 6 30 in the morning. Um woke up and like, whoa, Adrian has worked up already. But there is there is no situation that groupers will criticize Nick whatsoever. Like, and so they are they are putting their trust in princes at this point, and your your text got me got me thinking, and seems to me, at least in our modern age, right wing folk are much more likely to, I don't want to say fall for, but to to fall for a cult of personality.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:18

Don't you think? Like, you don't see too many cults of personality on the left. Like, yeah, maybe Obama had one.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:24

I don't know, but because AOC's got a pretty big if if it weren't for a cult of personality, she wouldn't be elected. If she wasn't a big booty Latina, she would never get admitted, right? But I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:38

I don't see anyone devoted to her, like people get devoted to Fuentes, or like people get devoted to Trump or Yeah, I can see it. Well, what about like with Destiny or Hassan Piker? I guess I don't I I've just I don't maybe it's because I I don't know anyone right on that side, so maybe I'm not seeing the cult of personality around those people, but it seems to me like people on the left are more so much more wrapped up in their political, socioeconomic system than a personality where people on the right, at least lately, seem to be gravitate towards personalities and less actual like strict ideologies.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:29

I I think that's because we're not in that circle. Could be, yeah, definitely could be. Because I I see much more I don't see a whole lot of leftist content in my timelines at all, unless we're like we're making fun of something.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:42

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:43

So we I think we see it, you know, because we are not in the in the golden trump calf circles or the the Nicholas J. Fuentes idolization circles, right? Because one of the one of the arguments that was brought up in that that round table was one of the guys brought up was Fuentes never he's he's like the loften of uh of that section where he's never found a bridge he isn't willing to burn.

unknown 1:40:17

Right.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:18

And he doesn't he doesn't coalition build, just anytime someone seems to get on par with him or or even threaten his stance in the in the in the situation, he he burns them to the ground, right? Yeah, he did it with Casey Putch, which he's he's doing with Dan Bazarian. Like these are guys that are like agreeing with him on a lot of stuff, right? And he decides to burn them to the ground.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:40

I mean, I'd burn bridges with Dan Blazarian too, though.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:44

I would I do too, but like I don't agree with him on hardly anything, yeah. But these are guys that are on Nick's side on a lot of stuff, and he just burns it all. Like and then they then they brought up the the the issue where like who has Fuentes promoted that has done better, right? He even makes fun of Pine sap, and Pine sap would like bend over for him, and he makes fun of him all the time, like what's his name, Paul Miller. Like he burned that branch too. Like, this guy agrees with almost everything you do, and your only view is to to burn these guys. I don't get it.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:33

Yeah, I don't understand. There's a lot there I don't understand.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:39

Where did I find this comment though? She says they're gonna go. When I started, no, not that one. We can do that here. Let's do that real quick. That time of vote again, would you still vote Trump or Rebson? No, I'd still vote Trump.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:54

I would I would abstain. I abstained in 2020. And I only voted in 2024.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:00

Here's the argument. Here's my argument against abstaining. You have the option to abstain because you either live in a state. I'm not saying you specifically, I'm saying general people in general. You either live in a state where your vote doesn't count because it's not gonna be, you know, it's gonna be thrown out with you know the voter rolls, or you live in a state where it's gonna overwhelmingly vote for Trump, right? Um and we all we are all living in the system afterwards of Trump getting in power, right? So it's like it's like atheists who don't want to believe in God, but they want to live in a Christian society, right? Voting is the least laborious activity you can do to help promote your ideals, right? We're never ever going to have a political figure that aligns with us 100%. Like even the Solidarity Party are pro-BLM.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:58

Yeah, no, no, yeah, I wouldn't vote for them, that's for sure.

Politics And The Lure Of Idols

SPEAKER_00 1:43:02

So, but what you can do is vote for someone who aligns with your ideals mostly, except they don't. Maybe, but I mean so bad.

unknown 1:43:21

Right?

SPEAKER_00 1:43:22

I uh I don't know if the alternative situation will we be in right now if Kamala was in power.

SPEAKER_05 1:43:27

Things would be a little bit more obvious, right? Like I they're both heading the same direction. Well, yes and no. I think the end result ends the same place.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:48

I think um I think with Trump as president, it's giving us a little bit of a breathing. Right, but we're not doing anything with it as a whole, individuals definitely are not, but if Kamala was in power, we would have unlimited illegals coming to the country right now, and we would have no capability of being able to do anything about it.

unknown 1:44:12

Right.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:13

The so at least that aspect has has done something.

SPEAKER_05 1:44:24

So reading reading about the Spanish Civil War, like the thing that finally convinced the you know uh Sanjuro and Falconde and and and Franco and the other generals to to to commit to the rising was was the craziness of of the the last republican election, right? Was the fact that now you had literal communists taking orders from the comintern in power, yeah, right? Whereas it had clearly been headed that way for a decade or more prior. Okay, I guess what it and of you know it's all easy to see now in hindsight, obviously. It's a lot harder to see when you're in the middle of the situation, but like what is what is what would be better for us another 10-15 years slow roll, you know, like we've been doing for I don't know the last 25 years, or someone like Kamala getting in and pushing so far that finally it it all just snaps, and you know, the situation comes to a head. I don't know, you know, because one could say that it was you know, the nationalists won, right? But hundreds of thousands of people died, yeah. You know, so was that the best result there?

SPEAKER_00 1:46:00

I don't know, it's it's impossible to say, but I I just I don't know where where would our Franco come from? Because the Obama administration pushed all those men out, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:46:12

I know, yeah. I mean, obviously, it's not a historical one-for-one, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:46:17

And it's not going to be because we're in a completely different situation. Yeah, we are not a Catholic country whatsoever, right? So we don't at least have that foundation to come from.

SPEAKER_05 1:46:27

But that that that's one reason why I don't I don't know if can like it's exactly because of that. I don't know if having the so-called you know the the Republicans in power is that much better for us. Is it better to have the warmongering Jews in control instead of the gay homo Jews in control?

SPEAKER_00 1:46:48

I for us Catholics, probably either way, you're attending a bar mitzvah. I think there's uh argument to be said for either side, and it really just comes down to like what are you willing to put up with or what are you willing to tolerate at that time, right? Because there is something the acceleration attitude does have some merit because you're exposing the wound faster so it can heal faster, right? Whereas we're in a situation now where we're like slowly triaging, but we're getting to a point where the the wound is exposing itself so fast that we're we're hardly able to keep up on what we do. And so the the fact that we're trying to argue which would be the better or worse is we need to realize that if this is way outside of our control, knowing exactly how God wants it to go.

SPEAKER_05 1:47:41

I wouldn't say it's I mean uh well he's allowing it to go. I have a hard I don't know. I I have a hard time agreeing with like the the position that it's outside of our control, like outside of your control, my control, yeah, 100%. But like we still have you know, we can still take action, we still have agency. I'm not willing to to just say like there's more I don't like the idea that that it that we have to depend upon God for like a literal miracle. I think it's more likely God's gonna work miracles if if we are willing to stand up and take action.

SPEAKER_00 1:48:32

I think this ties in to Anthony's it does statement of like the with the men's hearts have grown cold, right? I think this is being allowed to happen in order to help convert more young men, which is why we're seeing a huge influx of young men into the church. But I also think it's being allowed to happen so we can see the rot as it actually is, and giving us a capability to have our Nineveh moment as well. Um and who knows what will come of that. I don't know. All we can do is affect what our family does and what our and influence those people closest to our family. But uh, this comment by William I wanted to bring up because the issue with this understanding is that what gave gives us our prominence and our power is materialism, and that's why we are where we're at right now, because we think that the greatness of America is because of the amount of money we make, and that's ass backwards.

SPEAKER_05 1:49:41

And I think we're at the point where it would just enable those in our country who do evil to do evil more throughout the whole world, right?

The Fate Of Empires And Decline

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SPEAKER_00 1:49:52

And because if you're if your ultimate goal is just to make the economy better, you're willing to justify all kinds of evils to. get there right which is why we're at where we're at right now because after world war two it was all about the economy it was all about making money well and uh Anthony I just just read that in the encyclical last week in Mirari Voss was well and we we have to get past the understanding that that money cure cures issues it doesn't it just either makes them worse or delays them oh what was the um what was the quote hold on here cities or I'm sure you could say countries renowned for wealth dominion and glory perished as a result of this single evil namely immoderate freedom of opinion license of free speech and desire for novelty and I think I mean that fits America so well you know or or honestly any any of the great great wealthy empires Rome you know Rome fell into degeneracy because of its wealth rayton largely did it's uh have we ever talked about Sir John Globe and the fate of empires no we should probably do that next show then what what is it Sir John Glub and the fate of empires he was a British officer and he wrote like a 25 page paper on the average lifespan of an empire and what its cycles were and we are basically uh past the affluence into the decadence right before the fall and the pioneers conquest commerce affluence intellect decadence and decline yep and basically the average lifespan of an empire is 250 years right yep and so forth will be our 250 years and we are past the the affluence I would say was probably after world war two and we have shifted three degrees and we are now in the you know decadence into the decline and so we yeah we'll go over that next show that's a really good primer to understand because he he goes back and looks over all these empires throughout all of the world like Roman Empire Persian Empire Babylonian and all of them right and basically he finds these common cycles throughout these whole empires and this common timeline and we fit in there perfectly so yeah we'll go over that next show if y'all had a chance look look up Sir John Globe and the Fate of Empires if you want to do some pre-reading for next time 26 pages PDF. I'll put it in the chat even yeah it's not long at all euros shouldn't move anywhere they should take back their countries have to tell women no and like do something about it. We have to be willing to be confrontational and and be able to tell people no and do the hard thing and most men who are not men are not willing to do it. That's what I'm saying my point is about is for a the US not to be pilfered or empowerment as the this ex post is coming through weird empowerment as people because the globalists are sucking it dry the wars with the globalists yes it is because we're we have a situation now where our politicians are pilfering the the coffers and they're sifting it out through foreign aid and USAID and if you all think USA money has stopped you're woefully underinformed shifted this the Secretary of State just now has access to it to do whatever he wants with it. And so now he's just giving it directly to countries instead of NGOs and now those countries are just giving it to the NGOs but we are at the end stages of Rome where everyone's raiding the treasury the the politicians but what the politicians don't understand is they think they're going to pay strong men to protect them but once the strong men realize that the only thing they have to benefit them is money the strong men is good they're just gonna take the money and they're gonna kill the politicians right unless you have engendered some type of loyalty among strong men which most politicians and and elites have not they have no reason to protect you and that's where they fail to understand human nature and it's just going to bite them because they think everyone should be like them that if they're motivated by money everyone should be motivated by money and they don't they can't think outside of that paradigm what did you do to get permaban from Thursday's chat to ocean I like Thursday he's victim weight but he can't help it he's got crumbs yeah yeah I don't get the mash love but whatever I just knew when mash came on it was time to go to bed you were a smart man that's all I knew I wanted to but I was the host I couldn't just couldn't just leave yeah we're finding out a majority of our taxes are just going to fraud and that's and I I think as more and more people start to realize that things will get a little bit more spicy well ocean I can see why you got banned. Yeah yeah I understand that Thursday's he's more politically savvy than I am because he has time to to read into all that stuff and I he's got some interesting opinions I think he lives too close to Stubinville and that colors his opinions on some things but I think Thursday's a good addition to someone to listen to maybe but then you're still buying meat from the store which is causing other issues now if he wants to buy like a quarter cow or a half cow from a local organic grass fed farm yeah maybe all right I think I'm done you think you're done all right so next time next show we'll go over Sir John Glubb's Fate of Empires get into Telegram I'll post my Dickens drill on the channel and I'll also put it in Telegram so y'all can see me do it as well and see somebody that actually shoots fairly regularly I still suck the first time I do it but get in telegram we got a lot of good guys in there we got the competition did you send that first prize out yet Joe it's not my fault well hold 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SPEAKER_02 2:04:39

Almost got myself kicked off the golf course oh my gosh okay all right y'all get ready for the greatest outro everyone