Opening Banter And Rob’s Absence

SPEAKER_00 0:00

The middle children of history, man. No purpose took place. And no great war. No great depression. Great war is a spiritual war.

SPEAKER_01 0:35

We got Chris on tonight, so I thought we'd use his intro tonight. We don't have Rob tonight. I need to find my Matt Chewbacca math. We are without Rob tonight.

SPEAKER_03 0:46

Rob has colon blue.

SPEAKER_01 0:52

Yeah, he's he's having a number three. If y'all ever seen that movie, what is that movie? Home or whatever it is. Oh, William. Did you ever see that one? Yeah. It was a number three.

SPEAKER_02 1:08

Yeah, he's uh it'd be interesting to find out what he was.

SPEAKER_03 1:14

I'd like to know his insight on all this stuff.

SPEAKER_01 1:18

Yeah. Because we're gonna go over tonight. We're gonna go over Spain. Sweeta, Spain, as it was, as I was corrected on how to pronounce it. Oh, really? I always called it Cueta. I did too, but it's Sweta. Yeah, you got Hispanic family members, don't they know? My wife says Sueta, so I don't know. So I was listening to Raymond Ibrahim earlier today, and you had a guy on there that who's uh an attorney in Spain, and he kept pronounced it sueta.

SPEAKER_03 1:48

I believe it. I mean, when we were in Portugal, the the guy was just talking about different dialects, and he's like, like, yeah, in Spain, like, you know, they're basically our cousins, and over here they they say they speak Castilian, and over here they say they speak, you know, he's like, but we all know they just speak Spanish, so they didn't show.

SPEAKER_01 2:08

Yeah, so Rob got a hold of me earlier because he he he he called me, well, he texted me earlier today. He's like, Hey, are we still doing the show tonight? He's like, Yeah, let's do a show. You know, my my wife's out of town, she took my oldest with her, and I got my three youngest with me tonight. I was like, you know, I got nothing else to do. Let's just hang out, and you know, it'll be fun. And then he sends me a message halfway through the day. He's like, Man, I ain't gonna make it. He goes, It's gonna be really bad if I'm on the show tonight. So I I didn't want to put him through that. We don't need any more taffy edits. Um already had Chris scheduled to come on tonight because Chris and I got into not we didn't argue, we just saw different sides. Yeah, and we're you know what the main topic I want to talk about is you know, if there is a draft, right? What are our options, right? And what what you know, even if you know legally your options, what else can you do you know outside of that? So we're gonna go over that as well. We're gonna go over Spain and everything that's going on in Spain right now because yesterday wasn't it, more source coming over today. Yeah, so we'll go over that.

SPEAKER_03 3:10

Quick Ave for uh Coleman for his wife going into labor. Who is one of the guys in the chat says wife's going into labor right now? Nice, quick ave.

SPEAKER_01 3:22

Yeah, absolutely. Father, son, holy ghost, amen. Uh Maria Gratia Plana Dominus Tecum, Benedictum Alierbus, Benedictus Fructus Ventures tu Jesus Santa Maria Matodei, or Pernobus Pectorus Nucidator Mortis Nostra. Sorry. That's all and just so you know, if it's a boy, Adrian's a really good name. Did you ever do that on call?

SPEAKER_03 3:47

I tell that to all the mothers I delivered. Yeah, all the time.

SPEAKER_01 3:56

I never had anybody take me up on it though. No, no, never, not once. It'd be kind of creepy. Just remember, the hardest job during labor is having to sleep on that couch they give the dads. It kind of like extends out, and it's it's terrible. And order pizza.

SPEAKER_03 4:13

I mean, come on.

SPEAKER_01 4:14

God, it's so bad. They're such whiners. Linus, that's a that's a good name. That's a good name. And then next boy's gonna be what Clement? And then what Sixtus after that?

SPEAKER_03 4:27

We had one uh one of our officers was uh a pilot. His uh call sign was Linus. Oh yeah, yeah, but more because he looked like Linus from Peanuts.

SPEAKER_01 4:37

No, nice. Let's see who uh who we got. Steve's in here. Have we seen uh what was his name? That was that guy's name from last time. Smoopy loop. That goes killed. Ocean's in. Ocean has been banished from A B, apparently. What? No, he's not allowed. First, first he was going after Anthony on Tim Gordon's show, and then that that pissed off Anthony. So then he started glazing Anthony on his show.

SPEAKER_03 5:09

I just learned what that meant. Like someone said it in a class like a couple weeks ago. Like some some Zoomer said glazing. I'm like, what the heck is that? Like, and then yeah, whatever.

SPEAKER_01 5:21

Glazing the dizzies.

SPEAKER_03 5:23

I had to work with a Zoomer yesterday and I learned a whole bunch of new things. I'm like, I'd rather not know that show.

SPEAKER_01 5:29

Yeah. There's there's a lot of things, man. I sent my wife one of these Instagram reels, and it was a dad going through a Taco Bell drive-thru and using all this Gen Z lingo, right? And it like the daughter was super embarrassed.

SPEAKER_03 5:43

That's awesome. That's awesome. That's our job, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 5:47

Yeah, it is. It's exactly that's I tell my daughter that all the time. Oh, I love you. If I'm not embarrassing you, I don't love you. Yep. Oh, I'm sure he's put me in one. Tevy's put me in a couple. Let me see if we still have them. Let's see if it's on here still. I don't know if it because when you're on this platform, there's a bunch of little videos you can add. I don't know. Well, one of them we can't show because it shows guns, so I know we can't do that. Yeah, it's okay. I don't see it. Oh, we need you know what we need to change our background before they get mad at me. There we go. There we go. We'll do that one. There you go. So still have the A B up. So why so Tuesday, I'm gonna be on with Rob. I've got my friend Jason Craig coming on. I don't know if y'all know who Jason Craig is, but he started Fraternist. He also started the Sword and Spade magazine. He also runs a retreat center for Fathers and Sons called St. Joseph's Farm out in North Carolina. He's funny, dude, man. He's he's gonna he's got he's him and I are gonna have a good time on Tuesday. Rob's gonna sit there like he usually does. But he'll be coming on. We're gonna talk about the Catholic culture and how we build it because he's it's a real big focus point for him. And we're gonna talk about fraternities and raising boys and all that as well. Hawk, if you didn't know, Rob is on the toilet doing number three, or has been all day. He is out of the fight at this point. So he's he's basically got dysentery. It could be an ant in the next tape video. Is it going Lord of the Rings, or is it more Game of Thrones? It looks more Game of Thrones to me. It wasn't even Taco Bell. Apparently, they have a Taco John in Minnesota. That's the same thing, right? Didn't Taco they used to be the same thing, right?

SPEAKER_03 7:55

Right, right. I think one of the owners. Well, he got hard. The owners of Taco Bell bought I only know this because of the fat electrician. Like he got bought out, or he bought it sold out, but then they changed everything and he got pissed. So he started Taco John's because they couldn't because of the copyright. And yeah, but they say it's the same menu as it used to be, so yeah. I want my Enchoritos back.

SPEAKER_01 8:19

I like the Chilitos, those are my favorite man.

SPEAKER_03 8:21

Oh, I remember the Chilitos, yeah. That was definitely a guaranteed AOF after, but they were great.

SPEAKER_01 8:29

Yeah. All right, let's see. I'm gonna where are we at? Uh no, no, no. Trying to find nope, that's not what I want. Nope, that's not what I want. So I'm gonna bring up so where is it? Oh,

Where Ceuta Is And Why

SPEAKER_01 8:45

here do this. Oh, maybe this will do it. Here we are. All right. So I want to show exactly where Sueta Spain is.

unknown 8:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 8:56

That's a web blog.

SPEAKER_03 8:58

Yeah, so it's like they're invading they're invading Spain.

SPEAKER_01 9:01

I'm like, mom, there's a huge body of water between so it's it's it's really just a annexed portion of Morocco. Now it is it is Spanish land, and there's actually more further east down the coast. There's another one called one more, right? Yeah, Malaria or something like that, which they have the same issues over there, but so it's not like they swam the the Strait of Gibraltar and then started invading. Like that's that's not something they're basically there's this little beachhead of Spain here, and the Moroccan, the Moroccans, and all the sub-Saharan Africans are are crossing that area to get into that little tiny portion of Spain. So when they say they're invading Spain, yes, technically they are, but it's not mainland span. Mainland Spain. So Queto is where Franco launched his uh his campaign to retake Spain from the commons. Yep. So if y'all haven't seen what's going on, basically about 49,000, I believe, as of yesterday, more has gone across today. 49,000 uh Arabs, military-age males have crossed into Spain all at once. And keep in mind the population of Sueta is only 80,000. So that 50,000 of the 130,000 that now are now there are Arabs. And so when you influx that many, let me pull up this. There we go. So when you influx that many, you you have issues, right? Where are they gonna sleep? You know, where's this not pulling up? Let me copy this real quick. But where are they gonna sleep? Where are they gonna stay? Where are they gonna eat? So then obviously you're gonna have issues of logistics and where all that's gonna happen. So then we run into things like this. Pull this up real quick. All right. There's you know, they're that small little pinch of land at the northernmost tip of Morocco, pretty much, and they're influxing basically a 75% increase of population all in one day, and more have crossed a day. Now, here the thing is as well, is Spain called in the army, and so there are soldiers on the beach right now watching these men just go right past them and they're not doing a thing. So, Spain at this point, its government is capitulating. Well, they're soldiers going on anyway. The communist took it over. So well, and if if y'all aren't aware, about I don't know, four months ago, maybe it was this year, the prime minister basically gave amnesty. He said it was going to be to 500,000 illegal immigrants in the country. He's gonna give them amnesty and just give them citizenship. Okay, it actually turned out to be 1.2 million, and on top of that, they have what is it called, a right of I can't remember, where you can basically bring other family members over with you now. So that 1.2 is probably gonna balloon up. You probably, I mean, if we go by the average Muslim family, probably seven more, you know, per, you know, say say average. Say we say we just you know conservatively say they'll bring over three to four more on average. You're looking at five. Are they even gonna vet them if they're the actual family too? You know, it's like probably not. Well, the issue with that is most Arab countries don't keep very good documentation, so there's no way to find that stuff out, which is you know, the the issue we had when we were in Afghanistan, that's why we were doing biometrics on everybody because they didn't keep records, so we had to use biometrics to identify people all the time because there's no such thing as a you were a flock camera agent. I wasn't we had a marine for that, but they don't keep documentation, and even if they did, it's easily falsifiable, right? They can make fraudulent papers on the town, which is why, especially down near your area, Chris, they're they're finding papers all along the border where people just discard it because it wouldn't act like they don't have anything when they get in the country.

SPEAKER_03 14:13

Yeah, yeah, but I mean counterfeit stuff's like huge. Like I remember watching some thing on the border, and this lady was coming across with like literally like 20 stacks of vehicle registration stickers that had been forged, you know, to to sell to immigrants and stuff like that. Yep. But I thought it was interesting in um in Portugal, all their little car cop cars in at least in in Lisbon, the big city city, all had these like metal cages that were folded felt folded over their hood of their car to be able to fold up for like riot control and stuff. I'm like, mm-hmm, interesting.

SPEAKER_01 14:56

They didn't have any other else place, but so here's

Mass Migration Videos And Street Disorder

SPEAKER_01 15:00

our little urban adventure going on in Spain. So as he's got a ladder and he's breaking into someone's home. Bro, I got these for days. I got like for days. I got all kinds of crap.

SPEAKER_03 15:13

They're not allowed to have weapons.

SPEAKER_01 15:16

Yeah, maybe like yeah, they can't defend themselves.

SPEAKER_03 15:20

I picked up some pocket knives at a sleep in their store just to have something on me, you know.

SPEAKER_01 15:25

Yeah. How'd that work?

SPEAKER_03 15:27

It was fine. I actually got they went through my check luggage too afterwards. So yeah, I I yeah, I was surprised. But I was dude, like someone asked about gong culture in Spain. I don't know how it is there, but it's almost non-existent in Portugal. Really?

SPEAKER_01 15:45

Yeah. So let's see, let's show another one here real quick. I I hear my girls upstairs going crazy. They're their loving dad being home. So this is out near a cemetery. Let me share it real quick. It's out near cemetery, and they're throwing rocks at cops. And if you notice, like you don't see any women, no children. This is nothing but military age man.

SPEAKER_03 16:34

Yeah, I see the I see the populist. I mean, they're a little different. I mean, even though they don't have like guns and stuff, like I think I posted that I was talking to one of my tour guides who was he he was like in his late fifties, early sixties, he'd already done his like like everybody has to do military service and stuff, you know, when they're younger or and they were saying like him and a couple other people, like in the the bigger the uh the second biggest city in Porto, they had this huge influx obviously of like I mean it there's they have tons of people from Mozambique, like all the colonies they used to have Algeria and then like a bunch from tons of Indians. Like that's the big problem with the Indians there. And they said, like, I I I don't know if it was this year or the year before that there was a gang from India that had come over and were bringing in a lot of the drugs and and they were uh assaulting women on the streets and raping them and kidnapping them, and the cops and the government were doing nothing about it. And it was all over the news there. They said so like the men actually got together and made a little group and tracked down where these guys lived, and they all went in and burnt the whole neighborhood down and beat the crap out of the guys. And he said, Ever since then it's literally been like peaceful, like nobody messes around in Porto, you know. Yeah, and so I could see pl pot at least pockets of Spain doing that, you know.

SPEAKER_01 18:04

You know, as that attorney that was on with Raven Ibrahim earlier, he's he was talking about how the south of Spain is much more conservative, much more Catholic than the North of Spain. Whereas during, you know, like the you know, the separatists and such, it was the you know, most of the most of the Republicans uh were from the south at that time.

SPEAKER_03 18:29

Um and yeah, because all the rural stuff was up in the main area. That's why Franco took that part first to be able to feed his army.

SPEAKER_01 18:38

Yeah, and yeah. So here's a mostly eastern fire. So it's just it's it's bad, it's like the summer of love over there right now. It's uh you know, 20 years. It'll be interesting though.

SPEAKER_03 19:04

I mean, again, like there are different people over there, you know. I think spanning them. We'll we'll see. Like you know how what but like again, like the government, um the soldiers want to do stuff, but they have to follow orders. And if it comes down to it, the people will hopefully do something about it, but at what point are they gonna be able to and they're gonna be outnumbered, you know?

SPEAKER_01 19:30

Yeah. So this is all the Spaniards calling in to work today. I found so many day here, I got another good one. Another one go for you. Close this one. So I'm just see the all the all the memes today have been amazing.

SPEAKER_05 20:07

Oh, there we go.

SPEAKER_01 20:24

They they're doing it we're doing he's doing it on Thursday. He sent me the video today, I'm gonna I'm gonna look at it. But he's already done with it. Rob's got it done, he's knocked it out, and he's excited. So he's gonna post it on Thursday. Don't put that evil on me. I don't work for that communist news network, even though I live an hour and a half away from it. Let's see, where else? All right, I think that's all. Well, I mean, I guess I could show some of these videos of them crossing, but y'all have already seen all that. So, anyway, you know what's going on in Spain, like Chris was saying, I'll agree. The Spanish are considered the most passionate of European Catholics. So, what we're probably gonna find is there is some Gen Alpha or younger Gen Z Spaniard who is seeing everything that's going on right now, is going and he's going to turn out way worse than Franco or Mussolini or anyone else. Because we've gotten to the point now where remember and keep in mind, Franco, as dictatorial as he was, right, to fight against communists and retain rule, the communists still came back. So that tells us uh in order to get rid of communists, we have to go way harder than Franco did. Because even after what was it uh 40 almost 50 years of rule of Franco? 40 years of rule is almost 80, right?

Capitulation Fears And A Coming Backlash

SPEAKER_01 22:00

So like 1080s it's how they do it.

SPEAKER_03 22:02

It's just like the the FARC in uh co uh Colombia, you know, like they they realize they can't really do much or or the they're conquered by by arms, right? And so they go underground and they kind of try to chilling and they try to start acting, oh, we're the politicians. So they start seeping in, and they couldn't do that until Franco was gone because Franco had such a tight end, but they tr they changed the culture, right? I mean, it's kind of like how it happened in Europe, you know. They changed they went in with the like the lower the lower royals and stuff, try to get on their side, like oh, putting pride on their side, jealousy to go against, and so we'll see, man. Something's gotta happen.

SPEAKER_01 22:46

It's we're we're getting to the the point, and I keep expecting nothing to happen, right? Because it's not that nothing is happening, it's that we have way more patience, apparently, to put up with BS. Well, because of comfort exactly. A lot of us were like, man, I'm super comfortable right now. Like, I'm not dealing without meals, I got power every day. AC's still kicking down here in Alabama. I'm pretty good.

SPEAKER_02 23:15

As long as it tricked up.

SPEAKER_01 23:17

Do I want to give do I want to give that up?

SPEAKER_03 23:19

You know, do I wanna that's really what it is, though, right? And that's all it is. Because I mean, it's gonna happen, right? It it's it's just inevitable. Historically, human nature, it's gonna happen. And it's just gonna be that one, you know, Archduke Ferdinand's shooting or something. I mean, because if you look at the Spanish Civil War, like the Republicans were still were murdering nuns and priests and doing all that, and they was there being allowed to for a certain period of time. And it took that one, there was one politician, one leader that everyone on both sides loved, and he was assassinated by an offshoot commie group, and that one death just set everything off.

SPEAKER_01 24:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:03

And that's usually but we're at that point where it's just gonna take one thing. Yeah, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 24:09

Unfortunately, I don't we won't see that in America for a long because we got a large ass moat around us, and yeah, I don't think we'll see stuff like you know that from us it from us it'll be internal, right? Because like we're gonna vote. And then that's the thing, like, more and more people I talk to who aren't like who who don't who I was trying to figure out how to how I want to put this. When I talk to people about the current situation and like what is the political climate going on right now, more and more guys, not women, because you can't you have to be honest with you, you have to disregard the opinion of women because women are always gonna vote in what's in their best interest collectively, right?

SPEAKER_03 24:55

So they're always going to be, they're always gonna vote the men, or not always, not all of them, not they will not most of them will not, they're not they're not ordered in a way to sacrifice for that great that's the man's I mean, that literally is like the man's attitude that you you're willing to forego this comfort because you understand it the further down, and women they're more is for like the the the for security, the kids and the yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:20

I mean that yeah, I don't think they would be fine.

SPEAKER_03 25:23

For that situation, like for a family, right?

SPEAKER_01 25:25

But but rightly ordered, it should be the father providing that, right? Right, the husband provides that. So women tend to vote in line with whatever provides them the most security, which is why most of them vote big government, okay, because they think the government can take care of them. Uh they haven't women haven't gotten to the point now where they to understand that the government doesn't care about them, it is only using them for their vote so we can keep growing. The men I talked to, but they don't care.

SPEAKER_03 25:55

I mean, to a point, if you're taking care of your kids, I mean you've talked to those people where it's just like, yeah, I know it's bad, but you know what? They took care, like they kept us from poverty, and blah blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_01 26:07

I'm still gonna get mine, and it's just like Yeah, the the men I talk to are increasingly growing impatient. And because I yeah, you understand for a for a father who is has been married for 10-15 years, has three, four, five kids, it's gonna take a lot to get that man to put himself at risk for his country when he's giving up his family in the in the process. Because he knows because if you get involved, you more than likely will get hurt, jailed, or or dead. Right? And so you have to be okay with doing that. Is the buy-off worth it? Is the is the leverage worth it to give that up to protect your family in the long run and give it up in the short term?

SPEAKER_03 26:57

I will I agree, but I will say there's a caveat, but kind of coincides with what you're saying. Men, if you give clear and concise, like leader, like true leader, right? And and and with the guidelines to follow, and like gives give give a man a clear, concise thing to follow, they will follow that, right? Yeah, and and right now there's nothing, it just is all it is is talking people everywhere, and just and you're like, okay, do I go this way? Do I go that way? I need a unifying voice, yeah. And then you'll have the man, but where is it? We have we they just and it's not gonna be from the political class.

SPEAKER_02 27:40

Oh, 100%.

SPEAKER_01 27:41

No, it's it's going to be it's go, it's more likely going to be like a retired colonel, right? That's still in like at 60.

SPEAKER_03 27:51

It'll be more like a retired gunny or something. Colonels are politicians, man. I'm I'm teasing, dude. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 28:03

But I mean for your yeah, because most colonels will be trying to make brigadier, but uh but you get a uh you get a Mustang. Yeah. Yeah, but you're gonna you're gonna find some guy who's you know been there and you know saw all the crap and has been through it, and for good or ill, whether he's virtuous or not, men will follow him if he's got a clear, concise plan and he's willing to sacrifice himself as well to do it, right? Which is why no one really is willing to give themselves up for politicians unless they're willing to sacrifice, which is why, unfortunately, like a Trump has a large following because people saw that he was apparently giving up some of his wealth in order to run for president. Now we find out he's just making himself super wealthy by and entrenching himself in crypto and other facets of the government's man.

SPEAKER_03 28:54

I it I don't know why we but that kind of goes to the point what we're saying. Like people are looking for that, for the leader, yeah, the one, and and unfortunately, you're not gonna find it without prayer. I mean, it's it's gonna be somebody initially you're not gonna figure out, right? It's gonna be but he's gonna have he's gonna have the goals and the beliefs that we follow, right? Like I mean, if you think of the Spanish Revolution or Civil War back to it, it's like they had the Fran the Frange I don't know, that's the frangists who were like super right, like basically Nazi. And then you had the Carlists who were the monarchs, which would probably be like us, right? The cat they were the Catholics, right? They're the ones that pri like they had the the mass and the apostolic or the Eucharistic parade just prior to their first assault on the Republicans. But the but the frangelists and the Philangelist things and the Carlists met up, right? I mean, they still were because they were enemy, they were still kind of going through that second, and they actually were in a coalition government for a while. So it's not gonna look perfect, but I think they're gonna get groups that have closer closer beliefs and goals. But that's that's what's gonna take. Like, but where is it?

SPEAKER_01 30:23

Have you I mean well it's gonna have to come from somebody who can walk the walk too. Because too long have we have we have we fallen behind people who just who just talk it and aren't able to walk it, right? It's gonna be a guy who's willing to do that.

SPEAKER_03 30:37

It's not gonna be a oh, I have a degree in there, like piss off. Like, I don't care.

SPEAKER_01 30:40

I want I want lived experience and wisdom, you know, like but it I mean you could just scroll across Instagram and see the the amount of guys on the algorithm who are spousing like they're done and they're willing to do something now, right? And like some of it's a lot of talk, so a lot of this is guys like just bloviating and and because they don't know right stuff. Yeah, because they haven't seen they don't know what it really takes. Yeah, the cost of this violence because the amount of violence that we're gonna have to enact in order to get our country back, it's it's going to be bad, guys.

SPEAKER_03 31:19

Oh, you can't trust your neighbors. Your neighbors are gonna like every civil war, your neighbors like when when law get breaks down, they go after like, oh, I want your land, or I want that, you know. It's like or they petty squabbles get fixed and nobody can investigate it, you know. Like, there's gonna be a lot of death and suffering. I mean, that's we're yeah, we're due for it.

SPEAKER_01 31:40

And and keep in mind the the side that's in power, and whether it it's both political parties, it's not just like one side, it's they're both they're they're eating babies, sacrificing people, and you know, probably conducting the largest human trafficking trade ever, to way past the Atlantic slave trade. And they're not going to give that up. Right now, they're able to do it on a whim, and no one, no one could do anything about it because they hold all the levers of power in order to scare them and take that away, which which is you know, it for just going to a little bit of a tangent. So the Sean Ryan show, he was talking, well, actually, he was talking to Tucker Carlson, talking about how Ivanka Trump, whatever her name is, bought that island in like Albania or whatever, right? It was like headed secret bunker or whatever. And then you find out that you know Zuckerberg bought huge, is creating a huge like underground bunker in Hawaii, and all these rich people are doing it, right?

SPEAKER_03 32:48

So Obama did too in Hawaii.

SPEAKER_01 32:50

They all they're all doing it, right? They're building these massive like doomsday bunkers, which betrays their misunderstanding of what power will be if things go bad, when things go bad, like they're expecting. They think they're just gonna be able to pay off their security, and their security will always protect them. Their security is gonna figure out that the only currency is violence at that point, and they're just going to kill them and take their bunker. Might is right.

SPEAKER_03 33:22

I mean, that's truly what the world has been. That's the truth. Might is right.

SPEAKER_01 33:27

When when when your power goes from hard power to soft power, as politicians have now, that's all soft power because they don't they can't do anything, right? But when the del then the line changes, and now everything's back to hard power, and what kind of violence you can bring them out in order to get your way, all of those elites are going to be dead in their bunkers because their own security teams are gonna kill them, and then their security teams are gonna bring their family and their friends over to that bunker and take it over.

SPEAKER_03 33:57

All right, because they're gonna make sure their family and currency

Barter Economy Skills And Survival Goods

SPEAKER_03 34:00

means nothing in that situation. Yeah, it's actual food and I mean actual gold would mean nothing.

SPEAKER_01 34:07

Oh, absolutely, 100%. No one's gonna carry around a 55-pound gold brick to pay for anything.

SPEAKER_03 34:14

That's why things like bullets and tobacco, that's gonna be the trading thing. It's gonna go back to barter because that's the only just true.

SPEAKER_01 34:23

I don't know what I think to be the one of the biggest currency items in a barter situation where we can't get things anymore. It's gonna be deodorant. I don't think you're gonna give a shit, man. I I think a lot, especially the women, especially the women, and we're like begging for deodorant, especially on the day. Hey, lady getting some leaves together.

SPEAKER_03 34:51

I gotta bring my get my have my wife pick out the the harem for the warlord for our little warlord clan.

SPEAKER_01 34:59

A year's worth of knickknacks. That's like 365 cans.

SPEAKER_03 35:04

I was a I've been so I've been trying to grow my tobacco and I've been following this guy, and I got his book, and one of the things he was saying is like tobacco was one of the best barter systems, barter tools, because like his dad, I guess, had bought a bunch of tobacco like when he was in World War II or whatever, and they had he had used it because people would sell, like in Germany it was destroyed, and like having tobacco like giving tobacco was like or cigarettes and stuff like that was like huge. You can get almost anything with that. And with like things like like I've always tried to lay out like so tobacco, like, yeah, you can do it, but people want that. They want it to be able to like have a nice smoke or whatever, but tobacco's good for health benefits, but it's also like good it was used as like an antibiotic for like localize antibody putting on wounds and stuff, like things like that. And then I'm trying to get a still because alcohol I think is gonna be huge because we use that for antiseptic and stuff like but then again, you have to it's kind of like what was that guy, Sar Sarko that we always talk about? Yeah, that was in Bosnia. Like he the only reason why he survived is he he was figured out how to refill the butane lighters with like propane tanks. And he's like the and the only people that had any kind of stability or wealth were people that had a skill that could be beneficial during a siege, like the doctors, the medics, the the uh plumbers, yeah, stuff like that. So again, if you had a and it's just you got people need to start thinking about what you think you could have to barter, and it's not that hard, even like if you have land or even your you're gardening your yard, like there's that one guy that he gr he like makes 200k a year just guarding out of his backyard and selling it to local local shop, you know, like so you can grow that stuff even in your local subdivision, you know. Like so I mean, but but liquor I like just for the simple fact that like people always want it, but it it's great for what cleaning and a septic, and and you can use uh you're still

Grid Fragility AI Data Centers Expertise Loss

SPEAKER_03 37:00

to purify water, so it's like yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:04

It's just you know, we're we're gonna get because eventually the issue's gonna be the infrastructure, right? Because right now our power infrastructure is terrible, and we're we're basically at the tail end of electricity. That's I mean, it's gonna happen. We're we're really at the tail end of it being reliable because they're not improving the infrastructure, and to be honest with you, they should have been improving it 40 years ago, but in you know, rust and and degradation are tearing up our infrastructure, and so we're gonna start seeing brownouts. On top of that, we're in we're adding AI data centers everywhere, which require massive amounts of power. Yeah, like one data center will require the same power as a metropolitan city will, just the data center itself. They're setting up thorium reactors at those places. That's ridiculous.

SPEAKER_03 37:54

We we don't have the power capacity. But they're stealing water, like there's like a big old thing in Texas, like we got we have plenty of water, but now you're they're saying, Oh, we gotta ration it because they're putting these data centers, and there's one that's going out just northeast of of Austin, and Samsung, it's a Samsung data center, and it was held off for a while. But the reason why they picked that spot is because there's a certain type of water they have to have, a purification or a mineral content of it, so they're stealing people's water just for this crap, you know.

SPEAKER_01 38:29

Which which doesn't like why do they need so much water? Well, like, what is going on there? You gotta cool it down. The processing processors are so why aren't we building this all up near the northern border? Well, then you have to have the infrastructure that you know the hard wire and hard lines and I mean it's gonna be just as available up there as it down here because everywhere they're doing around here is in very remote areas.

SPEAKER_03 38:53

Yeah, no, I know, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:54

They're doing them in the middle of the desert, they're doing it but I don't think they're on like I think they're purposely putting it near f near population centers in order to destroy that population center. Yeah, maybe in order to suck away their power and suck away their water.

SPEAKER_03 39:10

In the end, it's all about control, it's all about this small group that wants to control the masses, right?

SPEAKER_01 39:15

So yeah, and we we've been seeing a slow degradation for 20 years. We're sleep we're right now what we're starting to see is the fall off of expertise retiring, right? All these old white men that have basically kept the country together forever are retiring and taking their knowledge with them because they're being replaced by younger guys who they can pay for a third of the price. Like I've used the I've told you that's an example a few times. I'm gonna say it again. During the Keystone pipeline, when there was that huge leak that was in West Virginia, right? They could not get it to stop because they couldn't, the the power switch, the electronic switch was not working. They had to call a guy who had been retired for three years because he was the only one that knew how to do it manually. And they had to bring him back in to do it, and it took them four weeks to get him back in because I think he was in Europe somewhere, right? So that thing just leaked for months before they ever get him because they let they made him retire early because they were only replaced him with someone that was a third of the cost he was, right? We're seeing that everywhere, which is why you're seeing the issues with Boeing. Boeing is having the same issues, the quality control issues, where all they've gotten rid of all these old men, these old white men that knew what they were doing, replaced him with H1Bs and younger guys who don't have the experience, and they're having all kinds of issues. The same thing with that Titanic submersible, right? They purposely said they did not want to hire any old white men, so they all got evaporated into oblivion.

SPEAKER_03 40:50

What has happened in yours and my lifetime? Wisdom is is basically made fun of, right? Like experience and wisdom, they're like, Oh, it means nothing. I'm like, Are you are you freaking kidding me? Like, that's how honestly my dad was telling me that's how he he kept and he worked for 36 years and he kept his job a lot longer than a lot of people because he knew all the old he started when the computer languages were starting, and then he kept up going back to school to learn the new ones. He was the only person that knew all the and so when they had like came into like certain problems with certain electronic stuff because he did a lot of government contracting a lot of government stuff's old tech. He got he was the only one in the whole company that knew how to do it because he but he's retired now, like who's doing it then?

SPEAKER_01 41:37

You know, yeah. Yeah, exactly. I've got a friend here who his his his father-in-law started a business and it was creating I don't know whether you know how to explain that, but it's a it's a basically a gadget that helps them gauge certain electric frequencies through wire, right? And he's the only company in the world that offers this thing. And this thing is like a TI 800 calculator technology, like it's not anything advanced, right? And they're the only company in the world that offers it and sells it, and it they they they can't make enough of them, right? But he's retiring at this point, and he's wanting to pass it down to his my friend and his wife and his you know, his father-in-law's daughter, and all that needs, but the government is basically not allowing them to pass it down to them because they want more than one company to offer it, and he's not willing to sell the patent because he wants his family to have you know the monopoly on it, because they're only ones that know how to make it. At this point, it's not even a patent, it's just an issue of he doesn't want to sell the capability to anybody else to because that you know he invented it and he he wants to keep he wants to do enrich his family and the government, and they're not letting him do it, so the business is just gonna go away and no one will offer it.

SPEAKER_03 42:56

But we see that with uh like you were saying, like with NASA, right? Like people aren't like, oh, we can't build Saturn V. Well, I know whatever we're gonna go on the whatever, I'm not gonna give them that argument. Like, but it's not about we can't build it, it's that you you the people that have the that worked through those problems and found the different fixes that weren't shown on the blueprints, because it's like anything we you work on, like you find different hacks and you find things that come up that would have you would have never known until you worked on it. And so like they just don't want to put the money in because it's gonna take a lot longer because you threw out all those like notes and all those things that could tell you that these guys that had figured out and worked through those problems, it's like any kind of aircraft, you know, like the design looks sufficient and you know, airworthy until you actually put it in the air, and you're like, oh crap, we have this turbulent air coming over this wing at this certain rate, you know, like oh we gotta figure out how we're gonna you know, it's just everything everything works that way, you know, like or or some even even something that you can.

SPEAKER_01 44:00

relate to right is when you're giving when you're giving fluids to somebody right it's not in the book that you should warm them up if they're cold right I mean some of them it might be right but you just know through experience we should probably put on a warmer if they're cold right to help warm up a little bit right that's just through experience that you know to do that how many of those things are out there for you know like or give fluids to a someone who has high blood pressure because they have a reflex their high blood pressure because they dehydrated so you give them fluid and all of a sudden it drops depression to normal because but if you didn't have that experience like I mean yeah exactly so like China China can reverse engineer anything right you if they get an intellectual property they get a a device they can figure out how to make it okay they could also make they know how to make make like a primitive fire right but they don't understand the steps to get from making a primitive fire to building a nuclear reactor they can do both at the ends of the spectrum they they because they've never had to develop that because they've been stealing knowledge for so long they've never had to go through the hard work of learning those those learning scars at that point right to to understand all those little things in the middle right which is why but you know I I'm not particularly scared of a China the only thing I'm you know that worries me about China is there there's no such thing as wokeness in China so they don't have a social contagion running rampant through the country like we do and they all work on this on the same team. You know but China doesn't have anywhere near a billion people. Oh no and the math the math just doesn't bear it out especially the ones with all the cell phones and everything yeah like it's more like 400 million 500 million at most because mathematically with the one child policy there's no way but even with that like someone who said it like in order to the the jump in population that they're claiming they had would require every single woman to have like six or seven kids or something or it's some ridiculous number like every single one every one like no there none of them could have not had them you know which we know like that doesn't happen right yeah so it's like yeah it's it's just we live in clown world man we do and it and that's why it's so important for everybody to start developing skills developing skills that you can monetize if you need to right learn you know plumbing offhand on YouTube right because even with the degradation of the infrastructure people are still gonna have running water even if it's not from the city or a municipality it might be through a well might through be through rainwater catchment right something people are still going to have water so you know learning how to do durable trades that we'll never get rid of right even though purify water though yeah don't purify water is a good one last thing you want to do is be peeing out of your butt that's not a good day you won't have enough water yeah stay hydro yeah there's yeah there's not enough modium in the world you know but just having durable trades to be able to do things and you know hopefully it's niche things like being able to fill gliders with a propane tank right because everybody's got big gliders how do you refill them with that right because everybody wants to be able to fire you need fire right I mean yeah everybody's gonna need fire for something just so have some type of durable trade that you can make yourself important to be able to one highlight yourself so people know to come to you for something and two be able to sell it in case we lose capability to you know outside of a barter system right I I don't know if y'all follow me on for those of you following me on X, Eric Sammons put out this story about how Bitcoin was hacked with basically a cold wallet if y'all don't know what a cold wallet is it's it's basically like a USB drive that holds the Bitcoin on it right and they were hacked and people stole like 5,000 bitcoins or something right that and you didn't even they didn't even have to come into your house to do it. Right? Which is a big reason I don't invest in crypto it is entirely too dependent on the grid which is already unreliable at worst and shaky at best.

SPEAKER_03 48:41

So it's the ultimate fiat currency you don't even have it in your hand at least with a dollar you have a physical thing in your hand you know like yeah I don't know it's all that funny money stupid man.

SPEAKER_01 48:52

So that that's why I don't I don't do anything with crypto it it needs to be tangible you need to be able to hold it right which is why I try not to use my card I try to pay cash for a lot of stuff now. No in the past I haven't right I just you know hit my car because that's super easy right and I can just walk around just with a card and driver's license that's all I need but I try to pay cash for everything. One because it it keeps you keep a pulse on what you're spending money on. And two it's they always have to accept it. If their card machine goes down they can still take cash right which we saw especially during COVID

Meds After Collapse And Growing Food

SPEAKER_01 49:30

that happened a lot. Because people weren't going to work and so they the the card machines weren't working because there's nobody there to to make sure everything was going on. So you didn't miss anything ocean you didn't miss nothing at all we've we've been just sitting in air silence for the whole time okay what about losing the pharmaceutical infrastructure many folks require meds and the means of production goes so Billy the first thing I want you to read is a book called One Second After by William by William Fortune. Yeah the reason I want you to read that it's a fictional tale of a of a man in Asheville North Carolina was that the audio book is actually on YouTube for free. Is it so you can listen to it but it it goes through what happens one second after an EMP goes off what they think is an EMP right there all the electronics go out. And the reason I bring that up is because in one chapter of the book he's talking about going into a nursing home to try and find insulin for his daughter because she's insulin dependent and keep in mind insulin has to be refrigerated. And so if there's no power there's no refrigerators and so he's trying to figure out ways to keep it cold. So he ends up basically putting it in a in a in a basket that he puts in a stream and the stream running stream keeps it cool cool enough for him to use but you're starting to see issues with people who are on medications psycho medications depression anxiety things of that sort as well as people who are on you know like palliative care right things of that sort so and how things happen. And it's just and he doesn't know like he just kind of it's it's it's conjecture on his point like what he thinks will happen. But read that because it gives you an idea of what will likely happen. If keep it people will die a lot of people will die. Keep in mind right now 40% of American women are on some type of anxiety or depression drug right now which means 60% of them are running around unmedicated my wife hates that joke.

SPEAKER_03 51:46

I say it all the time she hates that joke stuff like that like even like like to go to like there are a ton of meds that are natural like things chemicals and plants and like I've been really deep diving into this last year like that have been used for centuries for a lot of these problems and and a lot a lot of them are growing outside your door and they're weeds and stuff and they have the same this allopathic medicine where they've synthesized a lot of these things that cause even more side effects than what those natural things did people are yes people are gonna a lot of people are gonna die.

SPEAKER_01 52:26

And a lot of them some of them will die because they were put on those medicines you know like and their body might have been able to fit but I that it's just it's that's that's just how it's gonna be you know like you know and the insurance from that didn't even come out to like what was it 18 was the 1800s early 1800s I can't remember but um yeah Taiwan diabetics they're probably not gonna be around long you know no they're not you know and we're gonna have to get way more used to death you know which was to be honest with you a hundred years ago before World War II almost everyone was familiar with it because one people weren't weren't living as long as they are now so they saw it more frequently but two most people were producing their own food right 40% of Americans prior to World War II had a farm of some type with it whether a five acre farm or a 500 acre farm right and so they were used to procuring their own food which means killing their own chickens their own pigs their own cows whatever it is and most people now would be disgusted to have to to you know kill gut and clean a chicken they wouldn't know they would just they lock I mean I see it all the time when I bring families here when I do when it's chicken processing day we've got 50 chickens we're doing that day you know there's always a family who wants to come check it out and help out and there's always two or three kids or two or three adults that freeze up and pass out right because they they don't know how they they can't handle it right because they live we've lived such civilized lives where we don't have to come anywhere near our food source anymore. I see it all the time and it's you're gonna see that amongst everyone which is sad because we shouldn't the knowledge for gardening and growing your own food even in your like suburban area like backyard you can survive but nobody knows how nobody wants to do it anymore.

SPEAKER_03 54:30

No one has done it I mean you can go back to the the Soviet Union remember they started the the the DACA or dachas or whatever that they had they had the regular people oh get go get build a little cabin in the forest and grow your food because we don't have enough food for you.

SPEAKER_01 54:45

Yep I mean well and here in the United States we had during the depression we have in during World War II was the freedom farms we we put people are encouraged and they would in the government would put out flyers like if you have a family of three you need six chickens right like they don't care where you lived they there was nothing such thing as suburbs at the time but people in cities were having chickens. Yeah but people were also stealing people's chickens and all that that was also going on because people didn't want to have to do it themselves so they just I'm not gonna like I'm not gonna kill someone who would take my chicken unless it's gonna affect my family but you know but yeah I mean it I think I've always since I was young always looked at it go down to the basis of nothing right and start thinking about how you would survive with no electricity with it it just takes some thought but it's not as hard as people think it is you know but it does take pre-planning and pre reflection on on doing it you know and it and you know as well as I do having a farm isn't cheaper than going to the grocery store but there's a reason you do it right I mean so yeah all right so let's get into the draft and we'll start talking about that so this came out the other day the USC the selective service system plans a computer simulation to test how it would carry out a national mobilization of American manpower months before the government begins automatically registering men aged 18 to 26 for the draft in

Draft Simulation Auto Registration What It Means

SPEAKER_01 56:30

December so for those women who are watching all one of you probably men at age 18 have to register in the selective service in December is being taken away from you the option like it's not really an option but they're just gonna auto as soon as you turn 18 you're automatically registered now. Whereas before you have to fill out a card and send it back in with as well talk was going on last year about including women into the list selective service I mean you're a strong independent woman you can do anything a man can do right you could die on the front lines just like a man can. That hasn't gone through and that has not been changed right now still just men which you know lends a lot of creed for why women should be able to vote right if you can't be selected to go to war why should be able to vote but you know that's another topic for another day so what do we do I don't want to that's a slippery slope though I I wanted that would actually force the selective service for women like you know like I don't yeah I I agree with what you're saying but once you start doing that argument then they're like we'll just like go to war you know so yeah yeah so then the argument comes in right so I I want to talk about what our views of it is first right and then I want to go on what the church says so my view it depends on the situation right now say we got into a conflict uh with Iran and it dragged out more and we started had to send troops and we're over there we're putting troops on the on the ground over there we got boots on the ground going into Iran and we're sending a bunch of you know Marines and the army over there if it's the situation we have now the political situation we have now and if my son were 18 years old and he got selected for the draft and was told to go over there's no way in hell I'm letting him go. Okay this is not a just war there is no reason we should be involved in this war especially if Israel's not involved right because we're basically just over there fighting Israel's war if Israel's definitely not involved right and it's not a it's not a situation where I'm worried about Iran come over here attacking us there is no way in hell I'm letting my son go even if he wanted to right and he wouldn't yeah because he knows dad knows best and I've been there I've seen war but if they came to the house to try and take him as I said in the telegram chat they better come heavy right which means they better bring her a lot of weapons and they'd rather bring bachelors and body bags because you're not taking my son right it is it is much better for my son to see me die protecting him and then having to go than it is for my me to see my my son to see me just give him up I would rather him see the fight in me and not wanting to to give him up for a war that we should not be involved in. That's my personal opinion right that's what I would do for my family. I've already let my family know of things like this they already know look hey dad's on like five or six lists they're eventually come going to try and get me anyway just be prepared right just be prepared that you may not have me forever because there's going to be a day where I may have to put my life in the line for y'all and it may be over something you think is trivial right but it is to stand and put my as a kid say put 10 toes down right and stand on business about something that's worth standing about right so that's my opinion Chris let me hear your opinion so I've I've thought a lot about since since us in uh Eminon talked up on I understand I mean I understand just ward studied it whatever I understand the Catholic position I understand your position I've also went and asked for consultation and advice from quite a few of my Catholic friends and who have served and who haven't served and in the end like even after that conversation we had on telegram I I'm try I don't have the right answer I don't think I have the right answer.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:08

I don't I just don't I'm trying to look at it at from a reality point of view. One and here's my here one like my son's 18 I can counsel him or my sons who are at that age I can counsel him but I cannot stop him. Yeah you you are an 18 year old man like you know right like I do also know man I can I can guilt trip the crap out of you man that's yeah but you yeah but that's you know as well as I do we're stubborn assholes and and and and at that age we're just like I know like what's his name Eminon like just keeps the the adventure in kids man I know I I don't have them but it's like it it's it I always go back to that open range comment of Kevin Carter says that sometimes there's things worse than death for a man. You know and whether or not you're saying that's courageous or not I mean to see your friends go and you not go that will I saw it with family members that that will haunt you and I'm not saying to do it because of that and there's also another suffering on the other side right that is a suffering right so I'm also trying to go from the Catholic point of view like so what do I do like I another thing one of my friends who was actually is Albanian and he came and served in the country and became like citizen and he was like he he he kind of guided me on that point and I agreed with him but he also said now if they came for my daughters that's a whole known story and I completely agree right like my sons are different. I mean I'm men and women are different and I will counsel them and tell them this is what the cat church says this is what needs to be done I don't I don't want to fight a war an unjust war I don't want to fight I don't want to kill people right like I don't like since the Marine Corps my whole life's been dedicated to saving lives right like but I will kill a motherfucker if he's gonna do I'm sorry I shouldn't have said that apologies um who if they threaten my family right but I I'm looking at it in reality man like yes I would like to say I'd sit here with all my magazines and my my family running to the back pastures onto the you know I've already showed them what routes I've gett we have packs even on our land like if something happens like what what are we gonna do I've talked to my boys about this like you guys take care of your kid wife mothers and I'll see you one day you know like but with that said like what's the reality like I'm gonna die they're probably still gonna get captured right I mean we don't you and I know we don't have enough bullets I mean the best way to defend your family that way is to have a bunch of families together right and even then who's to say so what's the best for I have to I have to take care of my whole family right so I can cancel my sons and trust in God that what they choose and what they do they'll be safe and still be we can still be a good Catholic even in an unjust war right like plenty of saints have done that right or do I choose prison right but then they take my kids again right so I again I don't have the right answer yet and I don't know if it's part of like just how I've been trained in EMS like I have to make split decisions with the limited information I have and then change it as it goes and I haven't been faced with that decision yet which is it's kind of I hope it's not a cop out but I I really I this is all hyperbole for now. But I I fear to not do the right thing but I want to do the right thing for my family and God. And I think that with the when reading I was reading those those documents from the church about in St. Augustine and what I've learned from Saint Thomas with the just war stuff like it doesn't necessarily it doesn't necessarily give you info on conscription which I back then that was just normal right so like they're talking about conscription I mean so they're technically are talking about conscription that's how it's always it's always been but how do you stop that like you know I mean like at some point you trust God to go into harm's way right like so I don't mind going to jail for my family but and I don't mind dying for my family in any way and I don't mind dying for for your family even right like I really don't but in the end is that the sacrifice I'm supposed to make or Or is a sacrifice I'm supposed to make hiding in the woods, or you know, I don't I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:07

I don't I don't know like I think I think you know now because we are so used to not having to really sacrifice much now, like we we live such soft, comfortable lives.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:18

Um that everything I've lost everything with my family, so I've I've sacrificed a lot, but which makes you reverse about having to do that again, you know. Like, you know, we were homeless for six months, you know. We were like so I've seen the bottom, which and God took care of us the whole time, like which gives me more and more strength of like trusting in what I can't tell you the future. Yeah, but if I trust in God that this is the cross he's given me, or my sons and pray daily, you know. I mean think about like Vietnam. That was 70% of the people that fought in Vietnam were were volunteers, you know, and a lot of them were Catholic. And they didn't all die, but they had family members praying for them at home. They had you know I don't want to go fight for somebody uh just war for somebody else. But reality is we don't have all we don't get decisions that we all think we do. The US is the US thinks they have more decisions than we really do in real life. We've been we've been in this opium haze of bread and circuses, believing that we have these certain rights, and maybe like on a natural law basis you do, but again, might is right. Right? And at some point you surrender to God and he takes where you go. You know? I don't know. That's am I making any sense? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:53

Yeah, I mean I I completely get your side. It it you know, for uh for a lot of it, I sympathize with you as well. I just my my goal for myself, because I only have one son. I've got one one son and three girls. And I'm not gonna be here forever. I I mean I could be dead next week. I don't know. Everybody can be dead. Hopefully, hopefully I've set everything up, but you know, hopefully I've set things up to where my family can will be okay after I'm gone. Financially, yes, that's the truth. But like faith-wise, you know, have I given them a good enough foundation to continue on? Hopefully I have, especially my kids. And my wife is way more holy than I am, you know, and and they tend to be, right? Yeah, and yeah, it she keeps me on track, right? She she makes sure to let me know, like, hey, like you're supposed to be the leader, and you're kind of not leading right now. You need to pick it up. I'm like, you're correct. I am not, I'm being lazy right now. You're always talking to my wife. You didn't even think so. So hopefully I've given them that foundation, they can continue on without me. But I see it for myself as I don't ever want my son to see me capitulate or compromise just because it's more comfortable to do that. And it may just be for me, right? It may just be more comfortable for me because I want to know I want to be there to take care of my family, right? Or it may be for example, what was that? There was a Duke during the crusades, and the Muslims had taken his son captive, and his it's they basically told him we're gonna kill your son unless you surrender, and he knew if he surrendered his forces, that would be the end of the crusade. And he basically just said the myths of that to his son and says, Son, believe in God and die well.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:59

Right. That happened in um in at the Alcazar in Civil War. The colonel, like they they caught his son, and he said and said, Dad, they're gonna kill me if you don't surrender the Alcazar. And he said, I love you, son, a kiss, go with God. And he said, I love you too, Dad. And so it's like, so what's but that's how I gotta ask you, is like which which is the more comfortable solution? Because neither one of them's comfortable. No, they're not. I don't I don't have the right as a father, like I will die. I would the easy solution is to die for my family and save them. That truly is the easiest way.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:42

That it is, but it all is it is also a position where you're you're you're putting faith into action as well. Like, I know this, you know, for instance, I know the war, I know the war is wrong, right? And I know that it is not just for my son to go after serve in an unjust war. So I'm willing to protect him to keep from doing that, even if I die. Right, and yes, I mean, technically that is you know easier for us because now you don't have to deal with the consequences after you're dead, and now your family has to live on through the hardship that it's gonna put them through, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:11:18

But you and I also have a unique situation of serving, and you know that not everyone ends up having to be like dying or being in contact, or even if you're in contact, like you're you're protecting your brother next to you, you know, like that that that's why it makes this money.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:44

It makes it so difficult, right? And that's why everyone has to make the decision on themselves and what is best for them and their family. Like, even if you know, for instance, like when we're at mass.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:57

Well, it's for your family, that's where I'm like hung up, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:00

Well, and that's the thing, like my family, my my family would, you know, financially be fine if something happened to me, but I I believe as I know things now, that I've established a good enough foundation in the faith that they would be okay. That's what I'm most worried about. Like they could lose this house, they could lose the cars I bought, they could lose all the nice things. That doesn't matter, right? God matters is like my kids get to heaven, my wife gets to heaven. That's the only thing I'm worried about. But but having them deconscripted, that doesn't stop them from getting to heaven, right? That that's true, that's true, but we still have to have our principles, right? 100% like for you know, like with blessed Pierre Giorgio Frasati, right? Decided to do what was even though it cost him his life eventually, right? He was willing to not go along with what you know it was going on in Nazi Germany. Was it could he have gone along with it and been you know approximate separation from sin? Yeah, probably. Yeah, right, but his principles were important enough to him to do something about it, and that's where it comes down to you have to do what's best for your family. Get back to my earlier you know, tangent I was going on. When we're at mass, my kids always want to say, Hey dad, they're you know, that woman over there is not dressed very modestly, right? She's not she's just you know she's wearing like a tick top. And I always have to remind them, look, she's she's probably new, right? She's not where we are yet. We have to pray for her. Right, right. And then and then next week we see her coming in with like her dad or something, right? And then, like, well, why doesn't he tell her not to dress like that? Look, that's their family, they're responsible for their own souls. Our job is to emulate to them what should be done, and hopefully they do that based off of seeing an example, and we pray for them, right? They have to do what's best for their family, right? And do what's best for them and where they're at right now, and that's with everyone, anyway. The 19 people we've got watching now, or whatever it is, right? And and everyone else that may watch this video of the future. You have to make the decision that's best for your family, and it happened, and you need to sit down and think about these things.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:26

I'm asking you uh honestly, man, which is the right decision? Because both ways is a sacrifice, a both ways is a death as a father.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:34

I don't I don't think there is one. So you have to do what you what was best for you and your family, right? Like, and what your conscience leads you to.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:45

But but if you're going by the church saying you can't serve, but then they take your kid, are you

Catholic Just War And Conscientious Objection

SPEAKER_03 1:14:50

are you going against the church? Like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:52

So let's get into that real quick. Like so I I did some research earlier on what the church teaches on the draft or conscription, and can you deny participating in in a draft? So basically what I found was under certain conditions, yes, you can deny participating in a draft in your country under certain conditions, right? So one of them has to be is it a just or unjust war? If it's a just war, you really have no option. You have to do what's in the common good for your country, and you have to participate if they ask you. Now, if there's not a draft, you don't have to worry about it, right? You know, but if there is a draft or it is a conscription, if it is a just war, you have to participate because it is part of the common good and is your participation the common good. But if it's an unjust war, it gives you more options. And basically what it comes down to is two, well, really it comes down to you know three or four three paragraphs in the catechism, right? So one is under just work conditions, paragraph 2309. Legitimate defense by military force requires rigorous consideration of four simultaneous conditions. The damage inflicted by the aggressor must be lasting, grave, and certain. All other means of ending it must have proven impractical or ineffective. There must be serious prospects of success, and the use of arms must not produce evils greater than the evil to be eliminated. These traditional animals constitute the just war doctrine, and their evaluation belongs to the prudential judgment of those responsible for the common good.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:41

So it puts the puts a decision on the leaders. Right? Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:48

But if they don't even care about just war, right, which is where we're at now, they don't care about being a just war, then that prudential decision can come down lower. Right? Because you then have to, you know, whether it's your priest or your bishop, right, has to make that decision. So then we get into the national defense and conscientious objection. Paragraphs 2310 to 2311. Public authorities have the right and duty to impose necessary obligations for national defense. And armed forces personnel who serve honorably contribute to the common good and maintenance of peace. However, authorities must make equitable provisions for those who refuse to bear arms for reasons of conscience, ensuring that they are nonetheless obliged to serve the human community in some other acceptable manner. Okay, so basically what it's saying is if you don't want to participate and carry arms, then the government has to give you the capability of serving in some other way that still helps the common good. If they do not, then you are relieved of all obligations.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:01

That's the conscience of objective.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:04

Right. So, which I think I think for most people, the biggest example of that would be Hexall Ridge.

unknown 1:18:10

Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:10

Right? The movie Hex All Ridge. You know, pop culture is what most people refer to. So yeah, was it DOS was his name? Yeah. Did not want to carry a firearm as a medic, just wanted to help people. The army gave him a bunch of crap about it. Eventually they let him do it, and then he ended up getting the Medal of Honor for actions in combat. But he was a con not really a conscientious objector, he just didn't want to carry a firearm because it was against his religion.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:39

In my aspects, like I I would go, like, and I would be a medic, right? I'd do but I'd carry a firearm because I would need to defend my patient, right? Like and so like it's there's things like 'cause it doesn't really even like like morally, like just from my own conscience, like I don't I don't feel like I'm better than anybody. If they have to go, then shouldn't I go with them and at least try to help them, right? Like but then but that's like well I have to counsel my kids on that, you know, like well here's the thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:24

If you go, who's then taking care of your family?

SPEAKER_03 1:19:28

Right, absolutely. Again, another just yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:31

Yeah, so then but if your son goes, right, and you stop them from taking him and now you're dead, who take care of your family? Right, exactly. And so like that's the kid. My my biggest fear is that I don't live up to the man that my son thinks I am.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:55

Yeah. I I totally agree. I you have to have that. I think I've talked to my boys about these things, I've talked to my kids about these things, and I think as a father, you can just give them the advice and counsel that you feel is morally right, correct, and tell them the truth. And and you're still look living up as a father. I I still think they will look up to you as a father.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:26

But eventually they need to they need to see you give an example for that.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:32

I agree. But you also have to realize you're saying that about your son. But our sons all wanna be us, whether they say that or not. And you served, and they're gonna be like I I'm just you know, I I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:48

I hope I hope my son is so much better than I am.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:51

I do too. I've even sold that to my son, like he did something, and I was like, bro, like you gotta do like you're supposed to be better than me, you know. And that like stopped him and in his tracks, and he was like and it was actually a really good conversation, like you know, like I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:12

It's really tough. My wife and I we talk about you know, because I I to give you all a brief glimpse of how I grew up, I grew up in a very chaotic alcoholic family. Like growing up, you know, if my if someone wasn't yelling at me, I didn't think they loved me, which is probably why I fit into the Marine so well. But with you know, marrying my wife, because my wife, you know, she she grew up in a similar situation, and we we always marveled to each other that how like how were we able to have such normal lives now, being how broken we are, right? But then raising our kids, our goal is to pass off as little of that brokenness to them as possible, and then hopefully our grandkids have even less brokenness, and hopefully by the time we get to our great-grandkids, there's no brokenness, right? Because you know, my parents divorced when I was in like second grade, her parents divorced, you know, probably similar age, and which is a curse amongst the family after that point. It's hard to break that chain, you know. But when we got married, one, we were separated from family for a long time because we were stationed to Camp Lisune. So if we got in a fight, we couldn't run the each other's, you know, our family to escape the situation. We had to work it out.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:33

But also That's one of my arguments for family. Like my wife and I were just like us moving away to this day, she said like it it we were only had our each other. We made our we made the marriage because you couldn't walk away. You were responsible. You know, it's like it's actually a good thing. I mean, don't doesn't mean you can't have family come eventually, but in those first few years of decades, it should be just you and her.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:58

I don't I'm gonna push it after you like you gotta stop saying you're broken, bro. Bro, I'm so broken. You're not broke, you have you have scars, dude. You have yeah, you have but see, you have lived experiences. Dude, we've all dude. I have met to meet somebody who hasn't had some sort of scar. Yeah, right? Like, but you don't make that define you, and that's why you and your wife are raising your children the way you are. Yeah, because so many people, you saw it in in in in my life fire, like people hold that as a crutch, as a victimhood, and they don't they don't move anywhere. So you're not broken because you took a step forward, you know? So I understand what you're saying. But say you have these scars, you have but those each of those lived experiences strengthened your armor for the day to come, right? Yeah, so you're not broken. I get I understand what you're saying, but say you have these scars, you have these lived experiences that are tough, but you overcame those, bro. Look at you.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:07

Yeah, I mean, yeah, uh yeah, you're right, you're right. There, but there are still some wounds I have.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:14

Everyone though, you will always have some of these wounds until the day we die, probably, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:18

Like I'm trying to pass on as little of that effects onto my kids, right? Right, like you know, I yell at my kids way too much, right? And it's it's in some of it's the marine in me, right? And I'm trying, and trust me, I don't near near as much as I want to, but some of it because you know that'll that'll be because you still have young kids, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:24:38

Yeah, and they don't listen. Honestly, like I was I feel bad for my firstborn son. My oldest daughter is like, but my firstborn son, I've apologized to him, like because you you know how like you're scared, yeah. As a pop like I want to do everything right, and so like it eventually you realize it's in God's and I don't yell anywhere near what I used to do. And like if something's like you're gonna grow up, or you'll you'll figure it out.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:05

Well, one thing that I've I've really uh taken to heart was when I apologize to my kids, and I apologize to my kids, like I make sure the other kids see it.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:16

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:17

When I get in a fight with my wife, I make sure the other kids see that we make up in front of them. So you know I just do it for me. Uh but uh I want them to like I'll give you an example. So maybe it was last week, maybe the week before that, I got real frustrated with my second youngest daughter. And I got on her some and I got on her a little too hard. And my wife, you know, after afterwards, everyone's done took me, you know, took me aside and was like, hey, you're pretty rough on her. Like, do you think that was good? And then like I thought about it for a minute. I was like, you know what? That was probably pretty hard on her. So a little bit later, probably like an hour later, I go upstairs to her room. She's she's with my younger star, and she's tough. She doesn't like she's like I I I can't spank her anymore because it doesn't affect her. She's stubborn, yeah. It doesn't affect her. Like, she'll just like look at me after she's done getting spanked and just like give me a defiant face along the way. But like spankings don't work, so I don't spake her anymore because it doesn't work. But I went up to her and I and I knelt in front of her and I was like, you know, I told her, I was like, look, I'm sorry, I should have not talked to you like that. That it I got frustrated and I let my emotions get a hold of me and I yelled at you out of frustration and you don't deserve that. And she immediately wants to poo-poo it off, like, oh, it's fine. Like, no, it's not fine. I should not talk to you like that, right? And that it's like she started tearing up a little bit. But my youngest daughter was there and saw me do it because I wanted to make sure she because she saw me yell at her. I want her to make sure she saw me apologize. Again, you're not broken, Adrian.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:58

You're not broken because you just did something that your parents, from what you say, yeah, didn't do, right? Because you had to well, but I mean, uh but then again, you also have to give them I mean go to CERAC, man. You eventually you have to forgive them because we all fuck we all mess up. God I gotta stop three days on an age. Man, I try so hard not to just stop. Um but you uh we're doing our best, man. Yeah, and even your parents in a lot of ways try and did their best, you know? It's what they

Fatherhood Scars Apologies And Leading Kids

SPEAKER_03 1:27:30

knew. So you're not broken, brother. You just if anything, you've proven that you're not, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:39

You know, it's I think every because one of my biggest pet thieves is when people always want to bring up their the hardships they've gone through as if a reason for the way they act, right? Right, and what a lot of it we see is it's got you'll hear guys like, Well, you know, I'm an a hole, you You just have to get over it. Like, no, buddy, you choose to be an a-hole. Right. Like, you don't have to be like that. Right. Right. Or like women are like, well, if he can't deal with me at my worst, he doesn't serve me at my best. Like, nobody wants a woman like that. Yeah. Like, we always have to put up with like horrible stuff all the time. Like, nobody wants a woman like that. But you know, every there is no excuse for previous experiences you've gotten and been through. And yes, they may be terrible. Like, we've all everyone's gone through some type of abuse, especially over the last 30 years. Right? There's no way that you were born after the 80s and not gone through some type of abuse, whether it's emotional vertical sexual.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:43

Way before that, they all they just didn't talk about it.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:47

Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, but that's no excuse for you to to be an asshole to people. Right. You have a Catholic, right? Yeah, especially. So you need to get over that stuff, right? If I can get over the amount the I've been abused almost every single way you can be, right? And I'm still not like that. And I don't pass it to my kids, it is a choice. Right. There's nothing that is outside of choice for you to do it.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:15

Your own choice, yeah. You you have a choice, everything's a choice. It really is. And you can choose to do it this way. But all those things that happen were wisdoms. Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:28

Well, it and for me, like it it wasn't even that deep for me. It was I just don't want my kids to be like that.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:36

Right.

unknown 1:29:37

Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:37

Like when I got on race, when I got a race, the the first thing I did was like when I had my daughter, who's you know, four, she'll be 14 at the end of this month, which is crazy to me. I'd never thought I'd live this long, first of all. But I make all my I make all my kids write a contract, write a contract before they become a teenager.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:57

Every one of my kids they have to turn into the contract, and I have to figure out if I'm gonna sign or not. It's just a thing funny, but the teenagers, holy cow.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:05

Man, geez, that is purgatory in itself. She is and she is me, but as a girl, and it is like there's a lot of times that I'll see her say something I say, and I'm like, who taught you that? Oh, I did. Sorry. But it it's just a matter of I don't want my kids to be like I don't when I got out of the Marines, I stopped cussing. Like I which is as a Marine, you know, like that's basically basically breathing. I lessened my cursing, but but I don't cut I think I don't cursive my kids. In fact, I said like asshole for the first time like two weeks ago. My kids were shocked, you know. They're like, what is this? But I don't cuss on my kids because I don't want my kids to talk like that, right? And I make these curses to so because I don't want my kids to be like I was, you know, you're not broken. But it's two tier point. Yes, I'm not broken. I have a lot of scars though, right? That I'm trying not to pass on and not trying to make sure those open those wounds don't open again to where my kids now have that wound, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:31:12

Oh, you're not passing on those scars, right? You're not recutting open those those wounds, which is a good it's a good thing, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:20

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I uh yeah, it's so to get back to the the draft point, man. Y'all y'all have got to make a decision for what's good for you and your family. It is much more important for me to show my only son by example because I'm not gonna be here forever anyway.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:44

And he needs well, examples are the only things that stick, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:31:48

Um yeah, and it whole it it will likely never come to that. I will likely never have to worry about that decision, right? More than likely. But I also make sure to have these conversations with my son about certain things, like you know, like what do you think, you know, like we we talk about the martyrs a lot, we talk about the saints a lot, you know, what they did. My favorite, my my patron saint is St. Nino Alvarez Pereira, who is a Portuguese saint that was actually just canonized in like 2002. But if y'all ever get a chance, there's a book about him called The Peacemaker Who Went to War. It was written by uh I think Le Panto Publishing puts it out. Uh Loreto Published on Telegram, I'd love to read that. Loreto Publishing puts it out. It's it's only like a 150-page book, but it's phenomenal. Basically, St. Nunio Alvarez Pereira was a but he was a soldier during the the Portuguese and Castilian wars, and he eventually rose to the rank of general, and he was basically the only reason that Spain never took over Portugal, and that Portugal was.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:55

I was in that fort. I got to go to that fort uh last week.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:58

His store his his story is so uh so inspiring. Like there's examples of him stopping in the middle of battle and praying to our our our lady uh in the middle of battle, right? And then going on. One of my favorite stories about him was he was so his he was married, had daughters, his wife and daughters passed away before he you know was old. So he retired from the military and became and donated all his money to the Carmelites, uh monks up there, and he decided to become a Carmelite monk. When the Castilian king found out about it, he sent an emissary to go check to see if he was actually serving as a

Soldier Saints Fraternist And Forming Men

SPEAKER_01 1:33:40

if he was a monk at this Carmelite monastery. And when the emissary gets there and finds out who he is and says, Are you you know, are you I can't believe you're actually a monk? And because he because he knew at that time like he was the only thing keeping Castile from taking over Portugal, and he made sure to show the emissary he took off his habit and he still had the arm underneath. And he told him, I'm just he's like, just make me pull out my sword. And Castile never went back to war with Portugal after that. So like if y'all ever get a chance to read that book, it's phenomenal. The there's a YouTube channel called He he did a really good story on him. Let me see if I can find it. Hold on.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:21

I'm sorry We went to we went to that, or we drove by we drove by that it wasn't open, the Carmelite Monastery in Corto. The one in the one in Lisbon actually was damaged in the major earthquake. And the marquee, when he was rebuilding the city, he picked that one building to be the reminder of the so he rebuilt everything else, but he didn't rebuild that convent. And it so it's sitting in ruins with no roof. It's like no, but so he's kind of like the Portuguese Cincinnati, huh?

SPEAKER_01 1:34:58

Man, he's it's he's absolutely my favorite saint. Absolutely. So the the channel on YouTube is called the Catholic Men's Podcast. He did a good video on him. He does, he's got a bunch of good videos, though. Y'all ever get a chance to watch his stuff. What's it called? Uh the Catholic Men's Podcast. It's on YouTube. But you know, it I try and encourage my son to read the Saints so he gets an idea of like how we are. And in and and this fall, he's gonna start going to Fraturnist with me. If y'all don't know what fraternist is, fraternist is a brotherhood of men and young men who are trying to help each other grow in virtue, right? And it is a phenomenal organization. It is not a Catholic Boy Scouts, that's more Troops of St. George, but it is it is a capability of helping young men with their fathers or other men to grow in virtue, but it is probably one of the better organizations I've been a part of since I've come back to the faith. But my son will finally get to participate this year, which I've been going for like seven years before he can finally come. But it's if y'all don't have if y'all have a chapter near you, you should get involved. It's phenomenal.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:12

But I just listened to Catholic Men's Comp podcast, and that I've actually watched that guy. He he was actually I'd watched him every week when he did the St. John Bosco. He would do the St. John Bosco thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:25

What was the name of that saying again?

SPEAKER_01 1:36:26

You're saying Saint Nunio Alvarez Pereira, P-E-R-E-I-R-A. The name of the book is the uh Peacemaker Who Went to War. Nice. But it's a great book. I try and get y'all know him as the Chivalry Guild, uh, but I talk to him pretty frequently, and I I keep trying to get him to read it. And he's so like he's got he's on like he's got his whole book list he's already reading. So trying to get him to interject one in there has been a bit difficult, but I keep telling him, man, you need to read this so we can talk about it. He's like, All right, man, I'll get to it soon. Like come on, man. This is two years ago when I told you that. What are we doing? What time is it? Oh, it's 9 40, man. I had no idea. We got any crazy questions? Uh, I used to love Matthew Miller from Catholic Men's Carvers. I used to watch him back when he did Donbog. Yeah. My cat's outside. I'm not bringing my cat in here. He'll just get fur all over me. I'd just fell like my cat's outside though. I don't want him inside anymore. He's he's a pain in the butt. He'll just get all over my face, and it's just not worth it. Uh let's see. I'm taking care of my daughter's dog this week, too, or this weekend, and he's she's a team. I'm not a team anything. I I've never seen what is her name, War on Beauty. Other other than in her skits that you do. Like I've never seen a video of hers. What's the case? I don't know. Uh Brie Solstad, the former like porn star who's now like not a porn star. I'm team War on Beauty, so in solidarity for Taffy. You know, we should all be wingman for Taffy. And just try. But I heard War on Beauty is like a trust fund child. You said that, yeah. I wouldn't doubt it.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:39

Like that was a trust fund, baby. You can't yeah, yeah. Actually, no, it's probably better I wouldn't be because man, I would not be good with a lot of money.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:53

I want to be a good Catholic. I would be terrible with a lot of money. Thank Lord for blessing me with being not rich. Yeah. That would be terrible. Who was it?

SPEAKER_03 1:39:04

What uh Saint was saying that comfort in wrenches is a trap or something. Somebody posted that. That's totally true.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:15

Man. Because like I like thankfully, like I make I make pretty good money now, and I just like want to give it away all the time. Like I'm always like looking for reasons to like give it to church or give it to people who need it, like, or go fund me for stuff. Yeah, my wife is like my wife is like, we need we need, you know, we need stuff around the house. So like, eh, we'll get it next time. Well, you know, whatever.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:37

Yeah, we're we're finally at a financial, most comfortable financial state we've ever been in our marriage. Like it's kind of crazy, but I know it could be gone tomorrow, you know. Like you only had to retire to get there. I know. That's really I mean, I was gonna stay three more years, but it actually made more sense monetarily. I had a pretty good windfall. Get a you get a drop from you buy military time and stuff. So allowed me to take a vacation with my wife after 24 years.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:09

That's all, that's all the pictures.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:10

It was awesome. That was cool. That was yeah, I think the biggest well, obviously the fat in my thing was really that I I really pissed me off, like to no end. But but luckily we got to go to that the Templar convent, whatever. That was super cool. But man, dude, like it is such like Cat it's a Catholic country, right? Like literally you cannot go five miles or more without seeing a beautiful ancient church or castle or with Catholic everything on it, but the people aren't I I asked everyone, are you cat oh I'm Catholic, yeah. Well do you practice oh no no I'm not it's like man dude like and these and the funny thing is the sad thing is is

Portugal Travel Beauty Without Practice

SPEAKER_03 1:41:00

that all these beautiful basilicas and cathedrals are only being renovated because the state took them over. Because all these were built by the kings and the and when they they killed their king off and their and their royal family, like it all obviously went to the the the Republicans, they called them the Republicans there too, and but it's kind of funny that the socialists are rebuilding the beauty of the Catholic faith. It's kind of like ironic, you know, like because the Catholic Church won't because then you go to Fatima and the Catholic Church built this horrific man, yeah. I'm telling you, these the Adoration Chapel, I couldn't stop sitting there going, I saw this in Silent Green, man. This is a suicide chap. I mean, I felt so horrible because I was sitting in a train to God, like, but it was so oh my gosh. I I and I've again it's like I shouldn't you shouldn't meet your heroes, but dude, that's like since I was a child, I've I've known about that, I've learned about that, I've wanted to go. Yeah, and like even my wife was like, I feel so I'm so sorry, Chris. Like, I wanted to go to, and she's like, she's like, it's so cold, it's so cold here.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:14

Everyone I've talked about and talked to is like, hey, like you you can't go to Fatima. Like it will, like you said, like it's like meeting your heroes. Like, hey, go to Lourdes, right? Go to a CC, right? Those are still great. Um, but don't go to don't go to Fatima. Like I've never I've never been in Europe, other than like passing through on the way to Afghanistan.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:33

I haven't either, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:34

So I've got three trips that I want to do, two with the family, one with just me and my wife. Like, like I want to take the family, I want to take them back to Germany where I'm you know my family's from. And I'd love to go back and you know, go back to Bod, Germany, and and you know, and maybe even find some of my distant relatives there. But and then I want to take all the kids to Rome, but like me and my wife, I won't go to Ireland, just the two of us. And she made the comment the other day, she's like, you know, I don't know if we should go to Ireland because I probably won't want to leave. I'm like, you're probably right. You probably won't because I'm not about going to like Dublin or anything. Like, I don't want to go to me, I want to go like the villages, right? Right, I'm gonna go see the the people, the southern people of Ireland, you know. I'm well that's what we did.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:17

We took we rented a car and I just drove. FYI, here's if you've ever driven code three, you can drive in Europe.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:27

Good, bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:29

Like it's like you have to be like they have no idea. They're driving lines mean nothing, rules mean nothing. It's just like you're not like yeah, they're just suggestions, it's just like funny as heck. But yeah, I I I I definitely want to go back to Portugal. I don't want to go back to we want our next trip, we want to do Spain, or our next trip's gonna be Rome with Anthony on that pilgrimage, but I want to definitely I've always wanted to go to Spain, but we definitely want to go back to Portugal. It's just not Lib Lisbon's a shithole. It was it was literally I I literally was like we were driving in, and it's kind of funny, like the vegetation literally the the plants that are there are exactly the same as Southern California. It looked like Southern California, and then going through going through Lisbon, I'm like, this is Los Angeles. I mean, except for the beautiful history, which is kind of covered up. But then when we rented the car and we started driving the hills and the villages, I mean it's it's it's still kind of a it's they're like a developing nation still in Europe. Because the dictator, well they call him a dictator, but I don't know how the political I I want to read more. Someone gave me some books to read on it, but I thought it was more like Franco, but their colony holdings, they gave more money to the they were actually higher quality of living there because it was all the businesses and stuff, and so they didn't have their first highway, which is like a two-lane highway from north-south until like 86-87. And only re yeah, so like you go in there and they there's these old houses, like the brick and everything, but they're falling apart, and it's but there's just there's they're finally coming back, and but it it's still a it's still a very beautiful country, and just the Catholicism.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:07

If that college if they if the Catholic Church comes back to its glory, Portugal will be an amazing place, like like I mean, anywhere, I mean a lot of these places in Europe will be like that. Which is why it's so surprising to me that here in the United States we have you know, in our little diocese in Latin Mass, you know, and and keep in mind, like we have pretty decent novos oros here. I wouldn't say any of our novus oro masses are like super heretical. Like some of them do are a little weird, yeah, like because it's a bunch of boomers or whatever, but none of them are super heretical. But so our diocese in Latin Mass hasn't really exploded as much here as it has in other dioceses. And it's also in the murder capital of the United States, you know, Western Al Western Birmingham. But we still get, I can't, the number of young men who have been coming to our parish, who are who are raised Catholic, right, and then kind of strayed after college and now come back. Like I I I don't have enough fingers and toes to count the dozens at this point of guys I've talked to who've been to our maps at least once or twice, right? And or like there's like there's something going on with guys younger than 30 that they're seeing the world as evil it is, and there's no mooring that they can tie to anywhere other than the Catholic Church. Everything else has changed, other than and they want the the world is spinning and they're trying to anchor themselves to them to something, and the only thing they can find that is not moving is the Catholic Church. Regardless of what the media is telling us, regardless of what we think the hierarchy is doing, the teachings of the church still have not changed, right? Right, so that they're all and we so many young men, the women, not so much. There's not as many young women coming back as there is young men.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:10

Because they want the feelings, they want the feeling that the Billy Bob's non-denominational down the road makes you feel great. Like I've talked to some former Catholics who are like, oh yeah, I just people were mean to me at church, or I mean, were they mean to you? You just didn't talk to you, or you just didn't understand any of your faith. Like, well, yeah, but but I like the way like they just make me feel good.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:31

It's like, well, that's not worshiping God, though, you know, like but when they can go to social media and get all the feel goods they want, right? Like what what they and that's that's also so hopefully here in the next five, ten years, women start. We have much stronger men coming through the church who are who have a good basis of their faith now and who have a good practice. Because you know, as Anthony, everything specifically we talked about all the time, it's not good enough that you converted, you have to actually live a Catholic faith for a while. And I'm an example of that, right? When I first came back to the faith 10 years ago, I was on fire. One, I never knew what a Latin mass was until I came back. Like I grew up in the Catholic Church, you know, but I was 18 and then I left because I thought I'd do everything. But um, I came back at 36, and I never knew what Latin

Young Men Returning To Catholic Anchors

SPEAKER_01 1:48:20

Mat was until that point, until I was 36 years old. And I was, you know, I was listening to all the apologetics and knew everything, but I didn't really live the Catholic life. And it wasn't until like now, 10 years later, that one, I have a lot more patience for people who are coming into the faith, but two, like I've now liturgically being able to live like this with a family who's all in the faith now, because my wife just came into the faith seven years ago. But being able to live through it, but it's now it's going to take time for these young men who are coming into the church to live the faith for a little bit before they can start leading young women into the church. Before the young women want to live in the church.

SPEAKER_03 1:49:00

That's why my wife, that's one of the reasons my wife tells me she wanted to date me and marry me. Our second date, I took her to church. And she she grew up nominally Catholic, right? That that they were the they went to the oldest sacraments because that's what the traditional Mexicans would do, but they didn't really ever go to church, you know. And she she told me, she's like, I saw your faith and I wanted it. And I'm like, I'm like, really? I mean, my faith wasn't I mean, okay. But but she's on now since then she's made me stronger, you know. Like, so it's like I think it's I think you have something there, and I agree with you. Like, if you everybody because that's what everything's on social media now is like we can't find a husband, we can't find a wife, we can't and if they start seeing these good men that are following virtue, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:52

Yeah. Who's it was it what was that quote by Fulton Sheen talking about the uh the quality of a nation. Is dependent on the quality of its women. Oh, I haven't heard of that. Because men will live up to the to the standard of the women. It's something like I would bachelor that super bad. But that's basically the gist of it. Was that a a country is only as good as its women because men strive to earn the respect of good women. And so they will raise them up to that point. And that's true of me. Like my wife was the first woman I ever dated that was, you know, a healthy relationship. Prior to that, I was like every woman I dated before that was crazy.

SPEAKER_03 1:50:37

Oh, wait, wait, wait. Hold on, hold on. They're all crazy, bro.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:42

That's true. That's true. But I I dated one woman who literally had papers that said she was crazy. So the government thinks she takes and gives you 35 papers for it if you're actually first day, go check her purse for the prescription. I need to see the membership card. Yeah. You know, but it's the same thing with me. Like, you know, I even after we got married, because to be honest with you, I wasn't mature enough to get married when I got married. But I wanted to live up to the type of man I wanted that I think my wife should be with. And that helped me grow. Like I'm nowhere near the same guy as I was 18 years ago when I first got married. Like I'm nowhere near the same guy. Like my humor is probably the same. That's about it. But other than that, like my values are completely changed. My desires for things. You know, I don't, I'm not, you know, try to chase the Jones on anything. I don't really desire material things. I just want my family to be happy. I want to, I want my kids to have good experiences. When I take my kids somewhere to do something, it's because I want to see them experience it. I don't go because I want to see it. Right? I want to see them experience something. Because that helps me to understand I enjoy it so much more knowing they're enjoying themselves. That makes me happy.

SPEAKER_03 1:52:04

I had a I had that experience it. Because my wife, like, she never got to go anywhere. Like they would go to Mexico for family, but she never went anywhere. She never really got to do much of anything. They were very, very poor. So like I and I'd gotten to go deal with a ton of stuff. Like, I just went and did it. We weren't rich at all, but I would go do I'd save up or I'd go do something, or I'd go on trips and visit places, you know, and and so like but it got boring, right? Things you did. But now I had my wife to share them with and she had never been, and so like those places became new again, you know. And the same thing happened when your kids have come. You know, and so it's kind of cool, like to be like, hey, I want you guys to experience what I experienced at these places, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:48

Yeah. Absolutely. It just uh when you start, especially when you become a husband, especially when you become a father, you begin to stop prioritizing yourself and you prior prioritize those that you love more, you know, which is what you know I'll have young guys like, oh, you know, I don't want a lot of kids. Like, one, you don't get to choose that if you're being Catholic, you don't get to choose that. Right. If you're being Catholic. But two, yeah, but two, the more kids you have, the happier you'll be. Because you stop prioritizing stupid crap and you start prioritizing things that matter, like your kids. You stop worrying about well, you're gonna buy a new car every three years, to now worrying about does my son, is he going fishing with the rest of us, you know, like like I want him to, because I want him to be around and stuff or whatever it is, right? You stop your priorities aligned correctly, you know, as long as you're not a deadbeat, you know. But like I've never met anybody that said, you know what, that eighth kid, that eighth kid was probably too much. Like if you've got eight kids, you've probably got a 14-year-old that's taking care of the youngest three anyway.

SPEAKER_05 1:54:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:04

Right? Like you're you you're not all by yourself anymore.

SPEAKER_03 1:54:09

Actually, I had someone ask me that yesterday. Like, they literally was like, Did you have a bunch of toddlers at once? I'm like, well, not initially, but we did have like four of them like back to back. He's like, That's great. I'm like, no, like I had older kids, like figure it out. Like, you don't they're awesome, you know?

SPEAKER_01 1:54:26

Like everybody's just so afraid, like Oh man, have as many, and you'll one, you'll never be financially ready for kids ever. Even if you're rich, you will not be financially ready.

SPEAKER_03 1:54:38

It literally says in the Bible, in Psalm I think it's Psalm to Proverbs. Your children are the heritage of God, they are gifts from God. Like, literally, if you have a kid, God granted you that kid, a gift. That's freaking amazing. Like just just meditate on that for a second. Like, are you freaking kidding me? That's I'm an idiot. How did I deserve this? You know, like right?

SPEAKER_01 1:55:05

Like, yeah, it's a it's I I I have a hard time associating with people who don't like their kids. And unfortunately, in my job, I see it a lot. Yeah, I'm a job.

SPEAKER_03 1:55:24

I didn't see it a lot, or they didn't admit it, but recently I met people like, yeah, I just don't like time. I'm like, are you freaking kidding me? You're the most selfish son of a bitch I've ever met in my life.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:32

I see I see so many boomers that their kids can't stand them because they've treated them like crap their entire life. It's it's so often, man. Because like I'm always trying to help people like plan out their finances for the rest of their life, or maybe like you know, if they need long-term care or something, right? Like, what do we how do we take care of that? Man, the amount of boomers, and and what it is is like my dad was a boomer, and I remember growing up, my grandmother and grandfather were always around, like they were always watching us, right? You know, so but then like I have when I was a senior in high school, my grandmother passed away, so we we never were around as much, but but I have friends who are the same situation, their their grandparents are always around. So when they had kids, they're like, Oh, well, dad and you know, mom will be around a lot to help us out. No, because the boomers got so used to being the priority to their parents that they still think they're the priority even later, so it's all about them, right? So they don't that's why you see so many boomer parents don't know their grandkids or aren't around their grandkids very often because they it's it's inconvenient, like how are they supposed to be around their grandkids when they're out with their friends and going on vacations and and they're going on cruises all the time. They can't have their kids, their grandkids around. How are they gonna do that? How are they gonna live their best life in retirement when their grandkids are around? They can't do that, right? Instead of sacrificing what they want to be around their grandkids, which I think we're gonna see because we're gonna see that change with the millennials.

SPEAKER_03 1:57:19

Yeah, I mean, but that's where the wisdom came from with the grandparents, yeah. Which is I mean, we're we're like the only country in the world that didn't bring in their parents in the household. You have three generations in the household. We're the only country really, I mean, there's more now, but because that's where the wisdom came from. Like you you raised for your grandfather, like dude even the limited time I had with my grandparents, like there was a weight to my grandparents, to my grandfather's voice that my dad didn't have. You know what I mean? Like it it it was almost like and you'll see that with like friends or whatever, like oh my grandfather did this, or my grandfather, it's like because it goes back to what we're talking about experience and wisdom, like that means something. Even whether or not even though society says not, when that experience and wisdom says it to you, it's an indelible mark on your hippocampus, on your uh on your on your on your mind and your thought, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:20

Like my my oldest daughter, she's 14, and I I joke with her all the time. Like, hey, when you're 18, do not be surprised if I arrange a marriage, because I need grandbabies. So I say we're gonna be able to do it. We can't have any more kids ourselves, so I'm gonna need y'all to have grand. All my kids have a four kid quota, right? And I also like I like I joke with them like I hey, just so you know, whoever has the most grandkids and takes care of me and mom gets the house. Just so you know, like I'm not above bribing y'all, but it you know, it's all it's all tug-of-cheek, but my kids see me around other kids and they know how much I love kids, right? Like they'll see me with like friends' kids. Because my wife and I were we're in a weird position where we're older, but we have younger kids. Like we didn't have our first child till I was 32, right? And so we had my last child when I was 36 or 38. 38, yeah, 38. Right? And so we're we're in a weird group where we have like a six-year-old and I'm 45, right? Whereas we have other friends who have like a six-year-old and they're like 32. So we're in a weird position. If my wife got pregnant now, it would legit be a miracle because she doesn't have a uterus anymore. So but my

Legacy Land Grandkids And Boomer Critique

SPEAKER_01 1:59:40

I make sure like I love being around kids, I love kids, I love babies, and my kids see that all the time. So they know, like, hey, when we get married, we have kids, dad's gonna be one or want to be around our kids all the time, and that's true because I'm gonna take the grandbabies and kick them out, but tell them to go somewhere so I can have the grandbaby the whole time. But I but that also has shaped everything I do around my house. Like, I make sure my house is convenient for babies, even though we don't have any and we don't have the grandkids because we have friends with babies, right? As well as I make sure my wife never has to go to work so she can be around grandbabies, like nothing would make my wife happier than having grandbabies over all the time, right? So everything is focused on that and helping you know support the next generation, which is why you know I bought 40 acres down the road because I want to give it to my kids, because you don't have to worry about building codes if you never plan on selling it, right? You build whatever you want to live on, you know, especially in an unincorporated area.

SPEAKER_03 2:00:40

So I'm trying to developing it yet. I don't see any since you had the I I haven't, I haven't so the uh chainsaw toy. I mean, sorry, the electric chainsaw.

SPEAKER_01 2:00:53

It's but my wife for my birthday got my dad's chainsaw refurbished. We have a steel shop here, and they cleaned it up and everything for me, and I haven't got to use it yet, but I'm sure I'm gonna have to. Yeah, like the whole purpose about that land was to give it to my kids so they can have somewhere to live. You know, it's 40 acres, four kids are big as 10 acres, you know. So it's just it's all about sacrificing for for yourself to help set up the next generation, which the boomers never did. That's your legacy.

SPEAKER_03 2:01:24

They forgot the boomers forgot that their legacy is their children, you know.

SPEAKER_01 2:01:28

Yeah, they did. Not all, yeah, not all of them. There are some good boomers, but they are an extreme minority, right? A majority of boomers is the reason the stereotypes are are real because they all fit the stereotype. Not all of them, but a majority of them, right? So, but there are some good. I've met some good boomers who when I'm setting up a plan for them in retirement, their only concern is yeah, my kids make a bunch of money, but like they're gonna need more money because the economy's crap, right? Or taxes are gonna be terrible. Like, so if I give them more of my money, I'm going to. But there's so few and far between, man. So few and far between. Yeah, and it's it's mostly about my kids don't need the money, they make good jobs. Oh, yeah, what's a good job? Oh, my son makes fifty thousand dollars a year. That ain't a good job. That's barely a livable wage, right? You know, like golly, just because fifty thousand dollars a year was great in 1960 doesn't mean it's still great now. Like they have no concept of inflation whatsoever. Yeah, well, I mean, you probably know.

SPEAKER_03 2:02:39

What's the I remember back like a decade ago, 28,000 annually was poverty level.

SPEAKER_01 2:02:49

So thirty-nine thousand dollars a year in nineteen ninety-five is equivalent today to three hundred and thirty-four thousand dollars a year.

SPEAKER_03 2:03:00

Holy shit.

SPEAKER_01 2:03:03

It's the same purchasing power as nineteen ninety-five.

SPEAKER_03 2:03:09

Yeah, but my wife knows how to make a dollar go, man. Like when people think about purchasing power, I'm like, holy cow, like you really don't need as much as you'd think you do, but yeah, but I think we're gonna start seeing that.

SPEAKER_01 2:03:27

We're gonna start seeing that more and more. People who are dealing without a lot of luxuries just because they want to have more stability. Like now, like you've got people who have like seven streaming services and paying like $180 for streaming services, just get cable, man. It's the same price, yeah. It's one bill instead of seven of them. Actually, it's probably cheaper now. Yeah, but it probably is because all the streaming services are like expensive. But then it's like, do you need that many? Like, you're really in front of the TV that much. If you're front of the TV that much, should you be in front of the TV that much? Where are we prioritizing here? But you know, it's I think we're we're gonna we're starting to see that more. Like, I'm an example of that. We don't watch TV. I take that back. We watch TV sometimes, right? Like, I I've been willing my kids watch Mandalorian today because I had to work and my wife's out of town with my with my oldest daughter, right? But usually we don't watch TV, like maybe one day a week we'll watch something, right? So that's not but my kids read all the time, all the time. The only one that doesn't read is my six-year-old daughter, but you know, she can read cat, hat, pat, and jack, right? And she's she's almost there. But we also don't like do a bunch of vacations, mostly because we can't because we have a farm. But you know, when we do take vacations, it's usually very frugal. We don't buy new cars all the time, like we just don't do the things my parents did just because they had a little extra money, they you know, always trying to plus up their their live livelihood, and we're seeing that more and more amongst people who are doing the same thing, and I think it's only going to help things by people stop prioritizing stupid stuff and you know having some extra money around for just in case times because we all want their coverage.

SPEAKER_03 2:05:15

That helps not watching TV.

SPEAKER_01 2:05:18

Yes, absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 2:05:19

Because you don't see what the Joneses are doing, you know?

SPEAKER_01 2:05:23

Yeah. Yeah, you're not comparing, which is you know, my biggest issue right now is is social media. One, like I'm trying to keep I'm kinda trying to keep track of like current events too much, and it you know, sometimes it can affect my attitude.

SPEAKER_03 2:05:41

Oh, they they were for me. I I stopped doing all that just because I can't control anything with it, you know. Like I have other things I need to control, and and yeah, it it gets you it gets you that anxiety, you know.

SPEAKER_01 2:05:54

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 2:05:55

And you're like, and then you have to stop and go, well, wait, I have no saying this, what's the point?

SPEAKER_01 2:06:00

Yeah. Yeah, it's you know, it could be it's a burden for a lot of times, and it doesn't need to be. It shouldn't be all right. We got any questions before I think everybody went to bed except Ocean. I know. Ocean's only one ocean's our diehard, man. Ocean just drank another Red Bull or something. Smoked all he hit a whole line of cocaina.

SPEAKER_03 2:06:29

Yeah, I wish. So glad I didn't get into that, man. I could have got I could get some of the shit done at home.

SPEAKER_01 2:06:37

Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Like I didn't I remember the the one and only ever time that I smoked weed was I was like 20. It was before during the Marines, it was like 24. And did you tell them? I I got at boot camp. Yeah. The one yeah, yeah, I told him. I told him, I was like, yeah, I smoked weed once. But what was that called?

SPEAKER_03 2:07:12

When you had to like tell tell the truth, Marines or recruits, like and then you never saw some of them again, you know? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:07:20

But uh I got I got so messed up off that weed. I was I was like five seconds behind in time. Right? Like we would I would go play billiards with my brother because I used to play pool all the time. I used to be really good at pool. I haven't played in years though, but I remember like I would rack the balls, and I wouldn't recognize I racked until like eight seconds later. Like I would I would break and then not even it wouldn't even register in my brain for like six, seven, eight seconds later. Uh and when I when I finally sobered up, I was like, drank no way in hell I'm ever doing that again. Like I should not be time dilating. This is crazy. And I never did, I never touched it again. I have no desire whatsoever.

SPEAKER_03 2:08:11

I literally took one hit one hit at a lunch at lunchtime.

SPEAKER_01 2:08:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:08:16

And I got so freaking paranoid and just like, this sucks. Like, why why do you guys do this? It's such crap.

SPEAKER_01 2:08:23

Yeah. Yep, it ain't fun.

SPEAKER_03 2:08:27

I guess Brendan Thompson asked, what if you and I get drafted? Or what if it's not your son?

SPEAKER_01 2:08:32

I think we kind of already drafted me. I mean, I initially wouldn't go. I'd make them come take me. I wouldn't go voluntary. Well, I would make them come take me, but I mean I really would.

SPEAKER_03 2:08:43

I'd make them come take me, but I'd go. I mean, what are they gonna know? Um what do you want some old broken 51-year-old now to go?

SPEAKER_01 2:08:53

That's and that's what like governments fail to realize is when you conscript someone, you drive someone, they are nowhere near as good as a volunteer.

SPEAKER_02 2:09:02

Well, they prove that. I mean, they actually don't really like it, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:09:06

They actually become a liability. And there, I mean, you if you're having to draft, like that's the end of your nation, you're done. That's just not gonna go well for you. So, I mean, hopefully it never comes to that, but I give this is all conjecture, this is all like what ifs, because we don't know what we'd actually do. Like, what what if five years from now it happens? I'm 50, right? And such a little like I've got like something happened to all my kids. Well, I'm going, and I'm probably gonna die over there because I have no desire to be around here without my kids anymore. But yeah, it just it you just never know, but yeah, you have to be able to think through these things so it doesn't surprise you when it happens, right? Like, like I you know, when I teach firearms, I tell guys all the time, like when you're sitting down in like a restaurant or a business, you need to constantly be aware of what's going on and running games, you know, you know through your head of if some guy came over from over there, what would I do? Right? So that way when it happens, you're like, Oh, what do I do? Right, you need to be, and then once you get used to running these scenarios in your head, you don't need to think about it all the time because you're like, Oh, this is very similar to a time I've already thought about, so I know what I would do here, right? Um, so you have to mentally prepare yourself to give you those mental reps on these situations before it ever happens, so you're much more prepared for what because you you then you're you can actually respond quicker than being frozen because you don't know what to do.

SPEAKER_03 2:10:33

Kind of lost in my mind, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:10:37

All right, guys. I think we're gonna

Final Questions Upcoming Shows Closing

SPEAKER_01 2:10:40

call it. It's been two hours and 15 minutes. Thanks, Chris, for coming on.

SPEAKER_03 2:10:46

Oh, yeah, thanks for inviting me. This is a really cool conversation.

SPEAKER_01 2:10:49

Yeah, I thought, you know, like I said, I thought you'd be a good conversation because we didn't see out of out of that, and that's fine. You know, like you don't hate me because I disagree with you, which is great. But it's it's good to for guys to see like if you can disagree and still like somebody. You don't have to, as good as someone disagrees with you, doesn't mean you have to hold it. The world would suck if everyone agreed with you. Yes, absolutely. Uh all right, guys.

SPEAKER_05 2:11:18

Cool.

SPEAKER_01 2:11:18

We are we're gonna get off here Tuesday, avoiding Babble. Well, there'll be it'll be a Guns and Babylon show, probably. It's gonna be a joint show when we have Jason Craig on. So we'll I'll see y'all on Tuesday. But uh, so we won't not have a Guns and Rosary show next week since I'm filling them for Anthony on Tuesday. So we'll have it on the week after. Well, if something crazy happens next week, we might still have a show. But as of right now, hopefully nothing crazy happens.

SPEAKER_03 2:11:46

But the last civil war is gonna be on Thursday.

SPEAKER_01 2:11:56

All right, guys. Y'all take care and see y'all next week.