Deeper than Rap

This episode pulls back the curtain on hidden agendas, tension in the basketball community and the impact of major transfers in the area. Coach Hen jumps on once again to speak on how starring in your role can impact your value on your team. 
Buckle up with Coach Ray and Coach AJ as we delve in all things Volusia County high school basketball!

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:00

I gotta see.

SPEAKER_01 0:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 0:02

Yo, yo, yo, yo. Welcome to Paint the City Red Podcast. Listen, man, we recorded a two and a half hour episode the other day.

SPEAKER_01 0:11

It was good, too, Coach. And it was good.

SPEAKER_03 0:15

I think we messed it up when we didn't, I didn't press in. So hopefully it's going through now. So I gotta.

SPEAKER_06 0:22

You gotta see if somebody on to see if they can talk about it.

SPEAKER_03 0:24

Yeah, I'm about to text my wife or my daughter or something and see. Because, dude, this we got a lot to talk about. Mm-hmm. We got a lot to talk about.

unknown 0:33

A lot.

SPEAKER_02 0:34

It's crazy. We got too much to talk about now, man. I'm saying these transfer edits, but this stuff is nuts, right? Here, Coach.

SPEAKER_03 0:41

Listen, man. Listen.

SPEAKER_02 0:44

I need some of these girls to make days to Seabreeze. Coach, we're not talking about okay, okay, okay. Transfer the portal open for the book. Wait, Coach, the portal open for girls, too, man. All these boys transfer. I need someone to come to Seabreeze, man.

SPEAKER_03 0:55

Coach, I ain't got no boys.

SPEAKER_04 0:57

I'm talking about the portal open for girls, too, and all the boys doing on the transfer.

SPEAKER_03 1:02

Oh my God. No, it is crazy, man.

SPEAKER_06 1:05

It is crazy. It's just a generation, man. Like you say, man, you get something, you gotta be willing to lose something. That's just not a good.

SPEAKER_03 1:12

No, it's just it's it's like for me, man. Um, like what we say all the time, dog, is it's a long time. Till November. November. Well, you gotta hold on to these kids, like they're your babies. Please don't call me when you go home at night and call me when you get up in the morning. Bro, you gotta.

SPEAKER_06 1:32

But you gotta start passing out those Chick-fil-A gift cards, man. Coaches, coach, kids can get NIL deals in high school.

SPEAKER_04 1:45

Coach, coach, I drop okay. Coach, it's crazy.

SPEAKER_06 1:49

Like, it's it's insane. You don't think a kid will take like like for real, like like a $500 gift card to um Chit-Filet to come? You know what I mean? All you gotta do is wear Chip fil A hat, take a picture at Chip filet and say go to Chip-fil-Yon's kids do that.

SPEAKER_04 2:05

They'll do it, Coach.

SPEAKER_03 2:06

It's crazy.

SPEAKER_06 2:07

For real, that's how they eat anyway.

SPEAKER_03 2:11

It's crazy, Cole. Like it's nuts.

SPEAKER_06 2:14

Oh, that's it. Yeah, but you know, sometimes, man.

SPEAKER_02 2:17

I wasn't expecting, I wouldn't expect I wasn't expecting to see none of those the last couple days. I ain't gonna lie to you.

SPEAKER_03 2:22

Nah, it's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 2:24

Yeah, it's crazy, man. The portal opened though. I shouldn't have put that on the um store.

SPEAKER_03 2:29

It's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 2:30

I'm gonna put it on there after we get out, but that um that portal open, boy.

SPEAKER_01 2:36

Them just them just leaving, boy.

SPEAKER_03 2:38

No, it's wild, coach.

SPEAKER_01 2:40

I don't I don't I yeah, coach, they leaving, boy.

SPEAKER_04 2:48

Coach, but like, why do you what do you think like the the transfer like era would like like when you think it's really gonna just like stop and just really just die down? Or you think it's here forever, like Oh, we up, coach. I see us.

SPEAKER_03 3:02

Oh, we up? And you see that on the YouTube? Yeah, we up, Coach. We up, man. We lie.

SPEAKER_06 3:08

Tell them to go on there.

SPEAKER_03 3:09

Hey, y'all better get on there and see what it does.

SPEAKER_06 3:11

Is it gonna stay on there, just gonna be filating it go off? It's gonna stay on there.

SPEAKER_03 3:15

We up.

SPEAKER_06 3:16

Oh, we lie, yeah, we up, not coach.

SPEAKER_03 3:17

But we're gonna see what it does. My daughter said she can't see it, but we up. Well, she can't see it though. I don't know. I'm about to text her now. Yeah, because you just saw it, right? Yeah, I seen it. Might just be, I don't know, Cole. We up. But but the thing we're doing, we are recording today.

SPEAKER_02 3:33

So it's gonna be how we got a podcast that we don't know how to work.

SPEAKER_03 3:36

Code, because we old. Because we old. Because you know why? Because it's God telling us not to record. Because like if that pod that we did the other night with here, we got loose, we all might be in trouble around here.

SPEAKER_02 3:52

Because we would be in trouble. Yeah. So that would that was sometimes people say it was for myself, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 3:56

That was a good one, though. They would have loved that. My fans would have loved that, so I gotta apologize to the fans. Yeah, it was crazy. That was a good one. It was it was informational too, though.

SPEAKER_03 4:04

You know, they didn't have the information on that, telling the truth about the circuit and stuff. Nah, no doubt. No doubt about it. It was good too, but we had a good time talking about it. We make sure it's up here again and show everybody. You get on YouTube, you can catch us. See, we right here. Oh, we're gonna. So, like, if your YouTube ain't working, your mama got bad uh Wi Fi.

SPEAKER_06 4:29

You know that Wi-Fi be bad, Code. Yeah. Code, yeah, man. I seen a couple of edits, man, about the transfer, man.

SPEAKER_03 4:36

Let's go ahead and get on into it, man. Listen, man, first, before we go there, man, like I had sent you like a list of topics that like we were gonna talk about, man. And um, you know, let me see. I know some people wanted to be in the audience. Let me see, can I do that too? Put them in the. No, we got somebody. I see where it says one person in the audience. Let me see who else wanna go. Invite audience. Let me see. I'm gonna try to. I'm trying to help y'all brothers, man. I'm trying to see. Because I want all y'all to hear this. You know what I'm saying? So no, I'm gonna go. Coach, you got your pop shirt on? Yeah, man. Yeah. All eyes on me, big dog. That's where we at with it. Listen, man. Listen, let me go ahead and get it started. Let me go ahead and get it started, man. Like, um, the first topic that we wanted to talk about, damn, Coach, I I had sent you the topic, but you put so much other stuff in here. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_06 5:35

Coach, I started seeing them edits, man.

SPEAKER_03 5:37

I was just like, man, this is nuts. So we gonna we're gonna change it around because we were gonna talk about something first, but I want to switch it to to this question.

SPEAKER_01 5:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 5:48

Just real quick, man. Why must other coaches try to backstab another coach?

SPEAKER_01 5:56

Coach, you could you and K talk about this on the podcast.

SPEAKER_04 6:02

Coach, I thought you were playing.

SPEAKER_03 6:04

Nah. Coach, you coach, no, you know I ain't playing. I don't play no games. Listen. Listen, man. This is what it, this is what this is, man. Like, I was trying, Coach, I was I was trying to backdoor how it just didn't work out for me. Hey, it's something listen, you ain't got hey, the back door don't always work. They was trying to backdoor me.

SPEAKER_06 6:26

Oh my god. Oh, that bat door real nah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know if somebody got bat doed, then somebody bat nah.

SPEAKER_03 6:34

Yeah. Let me go ahead and give that. And they wish they wouldn't have bat. Let me go ahead and like give this public service announcement. This uh PSA. Understand when the power has shifted.

SPEAKER_01 6:51

Oh, that's good. That's real, coach.

SPEAKER_03 6:54

Some of the things that some of y'all used to live on it no more. You can't live on that no more.

SPEAKER_01 6:59

It's dead.

SPEAKER_03 6:59

It's a new day. So I'm not gonna go into detail about what happened with me. But it was a lot of fishy stuff going on around here yesterday.

SPEAKER_01 7:10

Coach, you were hot, coach. You was hot.

SPEAKER_03 7:12

And I had to call my doggone uh advisor. He's my he is my spiritual advisor. He's all the way up in uh DC area now, and I miss him because I used to be able to get to him right away.

SPEAKER_01 7:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 7:27

I texted him yesterday and this morning and said, call me before I crash out, because I'm about to go off the ledge. He called me, he said he couldn't believe it. I said, but the problem I have with it, man, is I've always known that people didn't want me to be successful.

SPEAKER_01 7:44

Yeah. They don't, Coach.

SPEAKER_03 7:46

And I get it.

SPEAKER_01 7:47

Because they don't want me to be successful either.

SPEAKER_03 7:49

No, not at all. Coach, they go. Listen, I don't know if it's across the water. I don't know what it is that people don't want. Listen, they've been down for a long time. Mm-hmm. They've lost a ton of kids in different programs, but they've been down a long time. So why won't you allow them to have a little bit of doggone success? It was one year. We haven't done anything.

SPEAKER_06 8:13

Nah, Coach, you won the district, we're getting in a tough district. Nobody thought you were gonna do it. You did, you go to the playoffs first time in 20 years.

SPEAKER_03 8:19

Come on, man. And the thing about it, Coach, I always heard about some of the some of the back talking that was going on, but I never paid it attention. But I literally put on my page yesterday, on our basketball page, sometimes you gotta cut the grass to find the snakes. And y'all ain't even smart enough. Y'all walk right into the uppercut. Because y'all thirsty. Because y'all now. Let me go back to this. Oh my god. Out of all the and I ain't knocking no coach here. Out of all the coaches in the area, I'm one of the ones that'll put you on. I'm not a lifer coach. I don't see myself coaching 20 years. I'm 53 years old. I want to go to bed at nine o'clock at night.

SPEAKER_05 9:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:13

You know what I'm saying? So come call me, say, coach, can I get on?

SPEAKER_06 9:18

Because they'll never call you to have to get on.

SPEAKER_03 9:21

Let me know. Let me see how passionate you you are. Come work for free. And then you show me that you're passionate. Show up to every game. Put the chairs out. Then I can put you on. And then I can say, hello, I can I can leave. But understand this. Because y'all done lit a fire under me that I haven't had in a long time, I ain't never leaving. Y'all should have left me alone. Because I probably would have been gone in a couple in a couple years.

SPEAKER_06 10:01

Coach, you always said, you said it this time you was gone. So now you just don't. Coach, you can't not leave coach people's.

SPEAKER_03 10:07

You can't just do that just cause, man. Y'all gonna really wait. And listen to this. And then we're gonna move on to our next subject. Coach, you're gonna let me get, you gonna let me get my code. No, no, no, no. You're worse than me, Coach. You gonna let me get my two. Let me, let me get my other Tupac off. Hit them up. I was gonna leave. I was gonna leave. But if y'all mad now, with the kids I got, wait the next year.

SPEAKER_01 10:40

Code.

SPEAKER_03 10:41

Y'all gonna be sick. Because we got some surprises for y'all. We got some surprises for y'all. Y'all gonna be sick. Coach on that pop, man.

SPEAKER_06 10:51

Put that punk on in the background.

SPEAKER_03 10:53

So, Code, I would put the music on, man, but they might take our post down. Because I want to put it on so bad. You know what I'm saying? But like, now y'all really gonna be, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 11:05

Because that was messed up though, Coach. They weren't supposed to do it like that.

SPEAKER_03 11:08

Because I don't chase nobody's kids. I don't, I don't do none of that. But now y'all gonna be mad. Because see, if I was a, if, because I love my team, I love my guy, if I was as as aggressive as some of y'all, some of the other coaches around here, I can go get kids because y'all seen it when I was at Calvary. I can go get me some kids. Yeah, we we ain't got no public school kids. We was at Calvary Cole. We ain't play coach. But I ain't with it. Y'all can have y'all. I love the kids that I have, but now, if y'all are mad now, next year, y'all might try to assassinate me.

SPEAKER_02 11:42

Hey, yo, you're not gonna get it. I promise you that. But it's gonna be tough, Coach.

SPEAKER_03 11:47

But all but always know, we ready round here. So if you come, if you come, you bet you better.

SPEAKER_06 11:54

But Coach, did they not, did they not think that it would get back? Did they not think like that was kind of like not not being all dressed aside of just that was kind of like that was dumb.

SPEAKER_03 12:05

No, what it was, I didn't, I think that they did not think that they would got back so fast.

SPEAKER_04 12:10

Yeah, it got back quick, though.

SPEAKER_03 12:12

Coach, it was eight minutes. Coach, by the time I sent this coach, it took me two minutes to make it. I got back in eight. It literally takes me eight minutes to get on the highway from my office.

SPEAKER_00 12:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 12:26

I got on the highway and it was uh and the calls, I was getting calls. The first person texted me, like, I know they trolling. Where did this come from? Bro, how you get it?

SPEAKER_05 12:37

How you get that?

SPEAKER_03 12:38

So, so I have never had kids had to choose who they're gonna be loyal to. Because I'm gonna have to make some decisions because if I put something that we talk about, it should never get outside our outside our family. And my older kids know that. But on the lighter note, I'm good with it though. I just had to get that off my chest. I ain't mad at nobody because you know why I'm not mad no more? Yeah, I already expected it.

SPEAKER_06 13:10

Yeah, they tried, they showed out with that one, Carl.

SPEAKER_03 13:12

I couldn't leave the call and said, I already knew what time y'all was on. But it's me. I've been a winner everywhere I've been.

SPEAKER_06 13:20

It's me. They got to understand. They got to understand, coaches, big time now. They got to understand. You can't come down here get no jits no more. We that does close. I'm just telling y'all, them does closed, dog. No way.

SPEAKER_03 13:34

And if I'd have got that last year, some of y'all wouldn't have got the ones you got. And then if you want to be a if you wanna be a buck about it, I have, I put some names at the door and and then tell them not to let y'all in. And I just pay whatever the fee is.

SPEAKER_06 13:50

Coach, we need all the fans at the game.

SPEAKER_03 13:52

Coach, I pay the $10 for the people that, for everybody that y'all turn back, get the money for that.

SPEAKER_06 13:58

Coach, you can't, Coach, you gotta get off that puck, man.

SPEAKER_03 14:00

Coach, I'm done now. Now I'm back to happy ray. I'm back. I'm back.

SPEAKER_06 14:08

Coach, we gotta get it to the topics. I'm glad you got that park out. Yeah, I had to get it off my chest. I told you.

SPEAKER_03 14:14

Coach, coach, I want to play it so bad, but if I play it, they gonna they gonna they're gonna kick us off the thing.

SPEAKER_04 14:23

Coach, we live, though.

SPEAKER_06 14:24

They listen to Coach. Oh, cool, they're supposed to. They listen to Coach. We gotta get better with our technology, man. We gotta hope. We need to know what the camera is.

SPEAKER_03 14:33

My wife told me she sees us. Oh, we up now. And they better hope. And and I'm putting it down on Apple in the morning. When before I go to bed tonight, this audio will be on Apple Podcast, so it'd be ready for your.

SPEAKER_06 14:45

Yeah, they gotta see that, man. They gotta stop playing with us, though. I feel like we've been getting played with, man. We've been chilling though, man. I don't mess with nobody, Coach. Me neither, Coach. I all the bat those stuff saying this and saying that, man. They just gotta chill a little bit, man. Because you know me, because I've been chilling. I don't want to put my Bobby Knight theme song on my every day. I'm trying to be friends with Coach, not underhead, Coach.

SPEAKER_03 15:04

If you notice, when I play the music now, it's it's it's it's the locks. Never change. That's my theme song. Never change. Kids stop fire.

SPEAKER_06 15:16

Mateo Jago, baby. I already know. We put we start putting that Jada on, Coach.

SPEAKER_03 15:21

I'm trying to, I'm trying to, Coach, you about to make me play hit it up so they can hear it. I want YouTube to take us down, so I'm gonna leave it alone.

SPEAKER_06 15:28

Nah, don't play YouTube. Don't let us take us down, Coach.

SPEAKER_03 15:31

Hey, listen, thank you guys for listening to my TED talk. I'm sorry that it sounds a little harsh, but I'm done with it, man. I don't want no more trouble. I love what you're doing.

SPEAKER_06 15:39

Stop playing with us, man. Stop playing with us, man.

SPEAKER_03 15:41

See, see, see, I'm trying to get back to happy.

SPEAKER_06 15:44

Coach, because I be thinking, you know how they think when I start thinking, I've been chilling, man. But stop playing with us, man. For real, though.

SPEAKER_03 15:50

Coach, I'm trying to get back to the city.

SPEAKER_06 15:52

Calling people, they calling people and doing all that stuff, man. Stop playing with us, man. It's a new day now, man. We paint the city red, man. All that old stuff that's dead. Stop coming around calling people, talking about this, this, this, that. It's too new, it's Coach Ray over there and Coach AJ over there. Y'all gotta stop now. Y'all gotta stop now. And you don't have to come to the games. Period. Period. We'll pay for the, we'll pay, like you said, we'll pay the money for y'all not to get in. Y'all gotta stop. Leave us alone, man, because we ain't messing with y'all.

SPEAKER_03 16:19

Only because I know that y'all come into the games just to watch us lose. And I watch guys in the stands leave with leave with three minutes on the clock when we up 15. I watch y'all. Like P.I. mad. Listen, if y'all think I was, like I was tame last year because I was focused on winning. I'm gonna show my entire behind during the game. I'm gonna be shooting arrows when my kids shoot threes. All that. Now, there's some coaches around here who I rock with, and I ain't gonna show you, but some of y'all, boy, y'all my coach is tripping. I'm gonna be like, you know how the kids turn around the type at the coach. I'm gonna be doing all that.

SPEAKER_00 17:00

Coach, I don't rock with none of them.

SPEAKER_03 17:02

All right, I ain't about to do none of that.

SPEAKER_00 17:03

I'm about to do back with it. I don't rock with none of them no more.

SPEAKER_03 17:06

Nah, nah, hey, I'm done with it, man. But on a lighter note, man, you know, like, like I said, I just had to get that off my chest, but we back.

SPEAKER_01 17:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:14

This right here was the most, this was the craziest news I got yesterday.

SPEAKER_01 17:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:20

Um, and I already told him I was gonna talk about this today. Because every every topic that we have up here, coach, I reached out to that coach and told him I was gonna talk about it.

SPEAKER_02 17:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:33

And I said it wasn't gonna be nothing negative because it was from, some of y'all did some real doggone G stuff. And I love that, right? So yesterday, I I get a text regarding our first game of the season. He said, Coach, it's gonna be a little different.

SPEAKER_01 17:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:50

So I just asked, what happened? He sends me the picture.

SPEAKER_01 17:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:54

And I might not have talked to this coach on the phone in like six months.

SPEAKER_06 17:59

Yeah, since we were on last year at the end, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:02

I called him right away, he answered the phone. And for you guys that don't know is Coach Travis. And I know a lot of y'all know our contentious relationship, but it's not that way anymore.

SPEAKER_01 18:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:16

One of the things I learned about him yesterday, and we me and him probably have had the weirdest relationship um since I've been coaching in in Volusia County, but I learned something about him yesterday. Like a lot of people say a lot of things about him. Yep. But he a real dude though. You know what I'm saying? Because you gotta get to know him. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And what he did with Big Fella, I don't think I could have done it. But you know what I'm saying, he did it. So for you guys that don't know, man, um I picked him as my as our impactful player in the area because he dominates the game on the glass and he dominates the game in the paint. You know, one of our one of our own, you know, you know, born and raised kids here in Volusia County, moving on to bigger and better. You know, he's going uh Manny, Big Manny, congratulations, like I told you yesterday. Congratulations, he's on his way to um to the villagers. You know, like me and Travis talked yesterday, and as much as you hate to see some of our quality kids go, it is a testament to the coach that that big time programs like that.

SPEAKER_01 19:40

Wanna get a kid. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:42

You know what I'm saying? So that makes they make you feel like you did something right. So um that message that that uh coach tried posted on our Atlantic page was real, man. Because if you read it, you're like, oh no, he just he just talking, Coach talk. But I talked to him about it. And it was real, and it was sincere. And then he showed me some other stuff that he was trying to do for Big Fella for the upcoming year. And so I have to tip my hat to you, Coach Trav. That's that's a big time move. But what I wanted me and AJ to talk about was how do you think that transfer of the Big Fella is going to impact the area?

SPEAKER_05 20:27

Oh, we had Atlantic like in our the what top two summer going after summer, two, three?

SPEAKER_03 20:33

Two or three, yeah. No, they were two because it was Maine and the other.

SPEAKER_05 20:36

Two, yeah, Maine and them. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:38

Is mainland Atlantic pop fish.

SPEAKER_05 20:40

That's me, mim, I told you I thought Manning was gonna average about 30 points, 10 rebounds this year.

SPEAKER_03 20:45

Yeah, you said 30 and 10.

SPEAKER_05 20:46

Coach. Coach, that's a lot, bro. Matchup problem. That's a lot, bro. Just seeing their team a little bit into something, and they still got some good kids. I ain't trying to say, man, but you can't just lose no kid like Manning, bro, and expect it. It's not, it's not gonna be like that, bro. Like, and I'm not saying like I know Travis a good coach and stuff, bro, but bro, that's gonna be hard, bro. That's gonna be hard.

SPEAKER_03 21:07

You can lose some loss. You can't seven six days.

SPEAKER_04 21:11

I told you, I say, what'd you say? What think you would have average? I thought it was gonna average about 30 points. Yeah, you said 30 and 10. That's just that's realistic. That was gonna, he was gonna get that.

unknown 21:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 21:20

So when I when it go by how I look at his game and just look at the team, 30 points and 10 rebounds, bro.

SPEAKER_05 21:27

Like, that's that's a lot of money, Coach. Oh, that's a lot. Defensive presence, experience. Like when I was to the state championship, probably the warranty probably would have got MVP.

SPEAKER_04 21:38

Like, Coach, you're going to the villages, bro. So that's telling you that. You get what I'm saying? Yeah, that's telling you that. So, like, to take that away, man. I don't know, bro. Like, I ain't trying to say talk about no jits or nothing like that. Because you know, I'm on the girl side, so I know it's tough when you gotta go through it with like lesser talent and lesser team.

SPEAKER_06 21:55

But it's a lesser team, Coach. My fans want me to tell the truth. It's a lesser team without me. You get what I'm saying? That I just seen another one, another jit that I seen start for me and seen another one left. So it's just like that's gonna be hard, bro.

SPEAKER_04 22:07

Like it just ain't nowhere around it, man. Like, coach is gonna be hard, bro. Let's just keep it above, bro. Like, like they're not gonna, it's gonna be hard.

SPEAKER_06 22:14

But you know, there's a long way to uh November. I might be able to get in there and get some kids out the portal. Like, you never know, bro. But to see the two that he lost, bro, like.

SPEAKER_03 22:22

See, but you know what? So, so like I had talked with him a little bit today, too, you know, via Texan, you know. Um, like I told him, I like I told him I was gonna share some of the stuff, but not really in detail.

SPEAKER_05 22:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:32

He said it would have been a little bit more, more disheartening if the kids transferred because the culture was bad. He said, Yeah, he said it transferred, they transferred for better opportunities. And you can't be mad at that because at the end of the day, every coach, every coach in America want to see their kids win. And want to see their kids get to the next level. So Travis felt like, and like this, he didn't say this, but this is me thinking as a coach, give Manny a chance to change his life. So if you're being a buck, that's what you should do. Stop hoarding kids because you want 20 wins. Let that kid go out there and prosper. And I'm gonna say it like this if they if the villages are anywhere near Volusia County or Orange County, and my team don't have a game, I'm dead up in the stands.

SPEAKER_05 23:29

Yeah. I mean, the village came and got them in, so you gotta. I just talking about the impact on Volusia County is a big impact, make no mistake about it. Is gonna, that's that take them to me, because you know I always try to stick to the basketball stuff and keep the fans interested in what the Volusia County basketball. Bro, that take, that, that take them a little bit of motivation, man. That take them, that take them.

SPEAKER_01 23:56

It's gonna be tough, Cody.

SPEAKER_03 23:57

Yeah. But that's the whole thing about it. At the end of the day, we are in this business of coaching kids to help these kids change their lives. Because if I didn't have a chance to go to school, ain't no telling where I would have gone, and a lot of other guys are the same way. So I think Travis is giving Manny a 100% fair shot to go out here and change, change the whole direction of his life. And you can't be mad at that.

SPEAKER_02 24:22

No, you can't be mad at that.

SPEAKER_03 24:23

You can't be mad at that.

SPEAKER_02 24:24

No, you can't be mad.

SPEAKER_03 24:25

You can't be mad at that. Now, as a coach in me, I'm like, God damn, like losing your arguab, arguably your best kid coming back.

SPEAKER_00 24:32

Coach, he kind of lost the best kid in the county coming back.

SPEAKER_03 24:35

Yeah. Most impactful, he's the most impactful. Henry Robinson is the most talented, but he is the most impactful player in this area because he's dominant, because he's so big and so strong. And ain't nothing we don't have, we don't have a lot that we can do with him out here.

SPEAKER_02 24:48

Well, Travel's been whooping people the last couple years, so he gotta take his whooping just like everybody was taking there.

SPEAKER_03 24:53

But he's been against them, I promise you that. So that's what's going on, man. That's the first thing we talked about, man, was we want to see him, you know what I'm saying? Like, so Manny, man, if you listening, bro, like if you are anywhere near Volusia County or Orange County or Seminole County when when when my team ain't playing, we coming. I'm coming to see you. You know what I'm saying? Because I know a lot of my guys on my team rock with you, man. And I remember one of our first encounters when you was at our fall league, man. You snuck in my gym and I was about to put you out. But then I was like, you know what, man? I rock with O boy.

SPEAKER_02 25:28

You know what I'm saying? You ain't trying to get him out the portal?

SPEAKER_03 25:30

Huh? You ain't trying to get him out the portal when he tried to get him. You know what I'm saying? Coach, let me tell you what I did, man. I was trying to butter him up, but it ain't worked. I tried to butter him up, Coach, it ain't worked. I tried to butter him up, it ain't work. Hey, man, listen, I don't never want you to forget this. You can go to the concession there. It ain't work, Coach. I tried it, it ain't work.

SPEAKER_06 25:49

But now you know what I need, Coach. Not L going on right here. We gotta miss them with the kids.

SPEAKER_03 25:53

I tried to butter them. I tried to butter them, man. But so. Mm-hmm. It just crazy, man.

SPEAKER_05 26:02

Yeah, I'll see another one on the left, but I'll see in this edit too, Cody. Oh. Toward a little point guards that he's going like.

SPEAKER_03 26:08

Yeah, you sent me that. And I was like, Lo, but you know, I was that was like 40, like 30 to 40 minutes ago. I couldn't believe that. I actually talked to uh Trav about that a little bit today, too. You know, he kind of told me what the story wasn't. And you can't do nothing but respect it. You know what I'm saying? Like it's a lot, like a lot of people don't know what a lot of times what these kids are dealing with, but at the same time, you gotta coach who in front of you and figure it out. And so, like, for me, for me, and and I can only speak for me, that's the challenging part of it. Like, you wanna be able to coach, like you have a plan of how you want to coach. But then you lose one or two kids, and that's the whole chess match of it.

SPEAKER_06 26:50

Trying to figure out how you're gonna That changes a lot or whatever, bro.

SPEAKER_03 26:54

Yeah, how you gonna change? Because he's fast, he's quick, he was about to get a chance to be a dude out of it.

SPEAKER_01 26:59

Yeah, he lost two starters, cool.

SPEAKER_03 27:02

Yeah. But you know, but Travis in the championship game last year. You can say what you want to say. His run that he's made the last two years, you know, you could say three since he's been there.

SPEAKER_01 27:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:14

That's been remarkable. The joke was in the state. Elite Eight State Championship, yeah. Come on, man. Coach, he got a whole bunch of, he got a whole bunch of medals and and you know, trophies. Coaching years, all that.

SPEAKER_07 27:27

Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_02 27:28

He got a coach something for sure this year, though. That's that's those bit losses. Nah, coach, he got a coach.

SPEAKER_03 27:36

He got a coach.

SPEAKER_02 27:37

I wish that wouldn't have happened to Trav like that, man. But it happened to us last year, man. Gotta get it how they live, I guess.

SPEAKER_03 27:44

So that was one thing I wanted to talk about, man. But then this is something else that that like really, and like this. So what we talked about earlier was about coaching. This right here, these last two topics, is about kids. Oh my God. No, coach, coach, this is good though. And you know, Coach Hinn is available to get on if we want him to get on. He said he'd get on to talk about this too. So, but this is Coach Hinn's. So there was a post that he posted yesterday with the next, no, I'm sorry, with the pro 16 word talking about his son.

SPEAKER_01 28:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 28:20

His son is the, you know, this is Henry Robinson Jr., all you guys know because every time he plays, y'all out here taking pictures with him and shit at me. Y'all got the dog, I can't be mad. Because you know, because he plays the game with a with a with a with a super contagious attitude, and he had fun out there. But but one of the things that I saw yesterday when Henry posted, and then I re-posted, because I loved it, that the announcers were talking about that he was a dog on star in his role. This man was probably, he's probably the most decorated Belusha County basketball player in a while.

SPEAKER_04 28:57

So it's probably Jordan Seward, really.

SPEAKER_03 28:59

No, no, no, no, because Jordan wasn't right early on. Since like keep rumbaring them dude.

SPEAKER_02 29:05

Yeah, like Bumbar, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:06

Yeah, so like he's like he, you know, he had a trial with USA. He done a lot of stuff.

SPEAKER_02 29:10

Yeah, yeah. He got a resume. You're right.

SPEAKER_03 29:12

Yeah, so like he's probably but he went on a team, and like I said, he averaged close to 30 in 10 last year. And he went on a team on the Puma Circuit and was probably a fourth or fifth option on his team. And he never complained. Yeah. And he just got after it. But this is the the best part of it. Since that has posted, his offers has whipped to the ceiling. Yeah, he done got a three coat. And since they posted that.

SPEAKER_05 29:42

Y'all ain't think about that.

SPEAKER_03 29:43

Yeah, a lot of y'all, because coach, I talked to the hand of day too. A lot of a lot of people don't realize that. A lot of you guys think about that till you just said that. Yeah, a lot of you guys think that you have to score in order to get it. Like, he's been scoring his whole life. But when he went out there on that circuit had to defend and had to defend, them coaches saw that he's more than just a kid that can go get 30. Yeah. They were talking about he guarded the best man on the floor from the other team. Yeah. Yeah. And like he was willing to take that back seat role. And like when I watched him after they won the game, he was so excited. He wasn't mad that he didn't go out there and get 30, even though he had a hell of a game, the championship game, because I watched it. He had a hell of a game. But he was willing to take the lesser role for the doggone success of the team. So my question to you is: why do every kid want to be the star?

SPEAKER_05 30:39

One, I think it comes from the parents. You know, it comes from the parents. It's so hard for parents to see that other kids are better than their kid in a team concept. You get what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 30:52

If you putting, now you gotta think, like with basketball, boys and girls, you know, I'll be on both sides. Even when they little, like if you see kids come in there, like, and you feel like your son good, but now he's coming, let's say, start playing travel, it's a travel team.

SPEAKER_04 31:04

So kids supposed to, all on supposed to be a little good, right? But now you come in there and now you the eighth man on the team.

SPEAKER_06 31:11

And you know, you they keep it 12, 13 for the money. But now you ain't really playing, all of a sudden, it just starts just being like crazy stuff. You miss and practice now, parents and not talking about the other kids. Code, why is this?

SPEAKER_04 31:24

I've seen and I've heard meetings, you're gonna ask Code How, where people that's supposed to be cool and friends, after their friend gets off in the game, they come in there and have a meeting, and the parent comes in and have a meeting and start talking about the other kid. So it's the parents. Yeah. Coach, this is fact. It's happening.

SPEAKER_06 31:43

So you both coach, listen. Code Howard, I'm telling you, this happened with me and Coach Howard. And me and Coach Howard just looking at each other, you know, they think we the big bad wolves, but we like, if we was real nasty, we'll go share this with your so-called friend.

SPEAKER_04 31:58

What you want here saying about this man's son. I know who you're talking about, too.

SPEAKER_06 32:04

Coach, I'm just telling, you know, Coach, I'm lying, bro.

SPEAKER_04 32:07

So I say that it's the parents, bro. It's hard for parents to see that other kids are more talented, and it's tough, especially if you invested in it.

SPEAKER_06 32:15

You get what I'm saying? If you feel like you out there in the driveway, you getting trained, because you know they're getting training and all that stuff. Now they're paying money, Coach. So now when you just ain't the yo is not to somebody else's eyes, like me and Coach Jingis always talk about, at the end of the day, somebody else gotta say your kid good. Like I tell you all the time, Coach, I'm not a college coach. Yeah, I can take a kid sorry and the kid go to Duke. Mm-hmm. I'm not at Duke.

SPEAKER_01 32:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 32:41

But it be the parents, bro. It be the parents. So, like when you get in a situation like that, man, when the parents get involved and just want their kid to be the best, and you know, they might be the best, but at the eyes of the coach, this might be his rotation. Your kid might not be in that. Then the coach to probably. So I just think it's the parents, man. They don't like most parents. I know a couple parents, young parents, now that they they they can see their kids playing in roles.

SPEAKER_04 33:04

And because I got one that's gonna shock people in a couple of years, because he just plays defense first.

SPEAKER_06 33:08

He's a young kid, he'll be at probably Creekside of Miss Martin Beach Middle School Nigerians, but he plays defense first. And I say, all of that, I tell his dad, because me and his dad talk all the time. I say, bro, that's is what's gonna separate him when he gets to high school. That he loves defense and he plays defense and he's good on defense and he can guard.

SPEAKER_04 33:26

All that other stuff, trying to score points and do all that, when they hit the high school. If you're not guarding, like you say, them coach is trying to win. So if he ain't got that mentality like that, bro, then you're gonna be in trouble. And that's what I tell him all the time. All that other stuff's gonna come. And he knows how to do all that stuff.

SPEAKER_01 33:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 33:41

But it'd be the parents, bro. If you get around the wrong set of parents, bro, you're in trouble, bro. It be the parents. Let your kids play a role, man. So it's true. Especially if they're young. But this is the thing, bro.

SPEAKER_03 33:51

That's the whole issue about it, though. Like, and and see a lot of kids just watch highlights, so they don't really understand this part of it. But most good high school teams, every good college team, and goddamn, every good pro team. It's two dudes. And everybody else is role players. And that's how doggone successful teams are. You want your own team, then go to a team that's bad. But if you want to win, embrace whatever that role the coach tells you. So, like I said, like like last year was probably the first time in my 13-year career, however many years I've been coaching, that I actually told kids what their roles were gonna be. And some kids were, but it took a minute for them to embrace it, but they understood it. Yeah. Everybody can't start. Everybody can't start. There is no is not many teams that I've seen that that have five guys, seven guys averaging 15 points a game. It don't happen.

SPEAKER_02 35:02

It don't happen, coach.

SPEAKER_03 35:04

It's two, it's maybe two dudes, and then on a really good team, you might get three. That's gonna get all the balls. Yeah, unless you Columbus.

SPEAKER_02 35:11

Unless you're Columbus.

SPEAKER_03 35:12

That's what I'm saying. It might be three. You know what I'm saying? The rest of y'all gotta kind of get in where you fit in at.

SPEAKER_06 35:19

Coach, that's true, because that like you said with y'all, that's what happened to us last year.

unknown 35:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 35:24

And everybody wanted to make it. And then I think like once, once it was obvious who the best player was, kids just couldn't accept that. But why?

SPEAKER_04 35:35

Because one, one, the relationship the kid had with me, because I really brought him up in basketball, and if he's obviously the best player on the team, then that means y'all have to listen to me. You know why? So basically it was your fault. That's what people said going into the junior year. No, so basically, let's let's let's do let's do a history lesson.

SPEAKER_06 35:56

Let's do a history lesson. Okay, we got the edits. Coach, when we was trying to make our run in the district playoffs, he was the best player. That was the end of last year. Talk your talk, man. That was the end of last year. We got the edits to prove it. And then this year, he was the best player. He was the best player. Four or five coaches said that. But people just didn't want to believe it. Oh, we gotta get him out of the game.

SPEAKER_04 36:18

The head coach said, hey, we can't take him out. And he's going to school. And oh yeah, he's going to school too.

SPEAKER_02 36:25

And he's going to school, coach. The head coach. Coach, we got to get him out of the time. Coach, we can't take him out.

SPEAKER_06 36:30

But sometimes, like, it'd be like just kids just can't accept that because, coach, when you develop and you get better and better and better. And one thing that this is a shout out to Coach Jenkins. Sometimes people don't tell kids the truth, bro.

SPEAKER_04 36:46

When a kid, just because you grew up in Volusia County and a kid is six, three, six, four, that don't make him a big man.

SPEAKER_07 36:52

Mmm.

SPEAKER_04 36:53

He's not a big man. No, he's a combo guard. That's what his natural position is. He can play the one and the two. Because you 5'6 and 5'7 and 5'10, that don't mean you will better combo guard him. Coach I could told him that. He told him that in 10 grade. Like, nah, he's a point guard, bro. Hold him right there, those guards. That's real. But in this area, dog, when you the tallest kid, you always.

SPEAKER_06 37:17

You see what I'm saying? So sometimes, man, fans gotta understand their roles. And sometimes you gotta wait. You can be in ninth grade in a coach if you force enough to be on varsity. That don't mean you're supposed to play and play the whole game because you on varsity.

SPEAKER_03 37:28

That's real.

SPEAKER_04 37:29

Maybe a coach got your own varsity so you can learn the varsity way to practices, the games, the environment, because it's totally different from JV.

SPEAKER_03 37:36

Gotta wait your turn, dog.

SPEAKER_04 37:37

Gotta wait your turn, bro. But that's what that kid did. He waited his turn, cool. Until we was down. So we was down. And I say, bro, dawg, we don't, if you don't play, we're gonna lose.

SPEAKER_06 37:47

That's what I told him in the locker room. If you don't play, we're gonna lose. You're trying to give back to the. They get up. I say, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Now it's time. And he's been killing ever since. So it's like it's that, bro.

SPEAKER_04 38:00

The parents gotta let the coaches coach and be able to accept the role.

SPEAKER_06 38:03

Because, like you said, right when uh Henry, when they came out with the they did the little thing, the Pro 16, guess what? He started getting offer after offer after offer after offer. Maybe they wanted to see him in a different role than shooting the ball there play. Maybe they were waiting to see that.

SPEAKER_03 38:19

I mean I'm gonna invite my dog on, guys. I know he got something to tell me about this. But listen, man, that's what it is, Colt. And you know what? Everything you just said, it was the same thing. Like, you know, our you know, people know who our guys were last year, and I couldn't take them off the floor. And that's just what it is. So this is just a tidbit for, you know, kids and guys that are playing now.

SPEAKER_01 38:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 38:48

Um what you have to do is like that guy said yesterday about coach about uh Big Dog, about Junior, Henry Robinson Jr. You gotta be a star in your role. Like there's no coach in no program that's gonna take a kid out that get every rebound. A DNA. Or you know, guard somebody. You're not coming out the game for me. And see, and like, see, for me, I'm gonna say it because it's my cuz, it's my team. Our kid that like that was similar to the kid you talking about was Jerry. Jerry had to guard the best kid on the team. He led us in rebounding, he led us in points.

SPEAKER_01 39:30

He was born, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 39:31

And coach, he shot damn near 60% from the field. What else you want? He led us in what else you want?

SPEAKER_02 39:40

Coach let us in points, let us in rebounds, made us in, let us in threes made.

SPEAKER_03 39:45

And then my PG down the stretch. If he don't have the games he had, we don't have the finish that we finish with. And that's AJ. Like, if he don't play as well as he played down the stretch, we don't win. But you know what that took? That that took our team understanding. Like, we run through these two guys. Yeah. And they are both unselfish enough. If somebody got it going, because that's our culture. If somebody got it going, we're gonna get them to ride. But for the most part of the time, they got it going. They don't that's just what it is. And so, but I just think every kid is fixated on trying to score. And it basketball does like Jerry, both Jerry and AJ score a ton for us. But they also are probably the best defenders, the best defenders. They do everything else.

SPEAKER_01 40:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 40:43

And I get it. I coach, I promise you I get it. But last year, like I said, last year was the first time in all my years of coaching that I identify roles. And I'm gonna do it again this year because you gotta understand that it's levels to it. Like, watch all the NBA teams, the college team. Everybody on the floor can't take a shot. Everybody on the floor can't score.

SPEAKER_05 41:09

Yeah, you better not.

SPEAKER_03 41:10

Oh, that's my boy, he wanna come in, because I'm about to let him in. Yo, big dog, what it do, man? What's up? Listen, we was just talking about your talking about your boy, man, about you know, how like all his offers and everything has gone up since he since that post came out about him being a star in his role. So I want to ask you, yeah, how did you keep him grounded and keep him not from being frustrated with not being the guy? Because he's been the guy on every team he's ever played on.

SPEAKER_01 41:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 41:50

How do you keep him humble for that?

SPEAKER_04 41:52

Uh he done played enough basketball and he he's played with those guys. So, and then you know, like A B being his cousin, and so you know you're gonna always be backing for your family. So it it it wasn't hard. I mean, he he dealt with some frustration though. It was frustrating. Yeah, I I you know, because you gotta think, when you averaging like 30 points a game, then you you go to an another uh your the other team, and it's like you only get in five, six, if you lucky seven shots. Bro, that's hard to deal with, bro. Like that's no matter what. I mean, he didn't complain, you know, he was frustrated. No, there was frustration for uh frustration along with it, but he did what the team needed him to do and and and he h helped them win a national championship. So, like, kudos to him. Like, and I don't think he I don't think the average person is gonna realize how hard that is. Yeah. Right. You gotta play. You still got to smile. Like when it's when you're going through it, you got to smile in front of them cameras. Yeah. And you know what I'm saying? Like, people don't understand how hard it is to be, yeah, I'm happy for you, I'm happy you for you, I'm happy for you. But at the same time, I I'm still sitting back wondering, okay, what I what I got to do to keep my stuff busted. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's a hard role to fill. Just as a kid, yeah. When you like that. Now, when you not like that, and no, no, no. No, what I'm saying is, when you, when you, when, when all you are is a defender, or you're saying, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's easy for you to go and say, okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna fit this role. When you a 30-point per game guy, yeah, and they telling you, hey man, what not not so much telling you is you you get there and it's your first practice, we go through the sets. Hold on, dog. We ain't got no sets for me. That's real. That's real. That's college, that's college, that's called that's getting college ready. Exactly. So my thing with that I Told you was, hey man, we don't know what your role is gonna be on college. You do end up being a lottery picker. You make it to the league or whatever. We don't know what your role is gonna be in the league. So this right here, you're already prepared for that. When you get to college, this thing gonna phase you. Yeah, it ain't gonna phase you. Bro, that's that's what kills a lot of kids. When you the man in high school, and then you get to high school and they say, hey, my guy, you you ain't gonna get before or five shots. If that. If that. If that's right, if let me back up. Not they tell you, you get there and you and you thinking, I okay, off of the side. And like I said, with mine, we go, we, we put, we installed the office. I ain't got no place. Yeah. Nah, you gotta get out of the mud. I mean, he's still going into the net the tournament, he was averaging 12 assets. Like you, you, you averaging 12 points, no sets. You know what I mean? I mean you got to run the floor. Yep. You got to get offensive rebounds. Rebounds. Yep. You know what I'm saying? And when it's one or two, you you gotta be hella efficient, knock it down. Knock it down. That's what he did, man. And I and I and that's just a hard role for a guy when you a scorer, bro. Yeah. Yeah. And he did a great job of, you know, he wasn't pout, he ain't pout. He ain't sulk or nothing. I mean, you frustrated because you ain't getting the ball, but he still went out there, great energy. He still played, yeah, he still played, yeah. Flying out about the loose ball. The one thing, and I uh that I I do know it made him, it made him even more hungry. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it made him more hungry. Hey, because guess what? Man, I gotta go get it out of the mud.

SPEAKER_07 45:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 45:49

Ain't no, I don't got, like I said, I ain't got no claims. Not one. Not one. But they chipped, though. They chipped, yeah. So it's like, it's like you got the natty, so that's that that's the big prize at the end of the day. But like I say, when I say frustrating, it's like when you say I'm one of the top scores, bro, I'm the he's probably the top three in scoring in the state. Yeah. You on your state AAU team, no sets. And then you so you looking at this guy over here, this guy over there, and you looking at like, I'm gonna use like Peyton Darwson, he getting buckets. On his team, A B, he getting buckets. You look around the country at the other guys that's in your area, they getting buckets. You a bucket girl, and it's like yeah, and so it's like, damn that, like y'all, y'all forgetting what I do. This is what I do. I'm I go get buckets. Yeah. So you're not getting to show that, bro. You got to, you got to take that. You got to own it, you got to eat it, you got to deal with it, and you got to go out there and just do all the other stuff.

SPEAKER_03 46:56

So, like, all right, coach, this is my next question for you. So, so do you think that that video that was posted about him being being him being a dog on starters role, do you think that that had an impact on like him getting recent offers that he got?

SPEAKER_04 47:14

I'm not gonna say that's all of it, but I I feel like that that that played a big part because you gotta think. If you if when you sit down and you watch the film, damn, he a bucket getter. I'm watching it with his AU team. He's taking a lot of shots. He doing X, Y, Z. Then the twins talked about it. Then I I put the video out too, and it's like, I feel like some of them like, you know what? Damn that. He he can go do all the small stuff we don't need done. He's not over the plane. And if we need him to score, he can score. Man, I I'm gonna take something like that. Because some of the coaches we talk to, a lot of them, all of them are saying the same thing. They like, hey man, he's a high major kid. He ain't getting all the high major offers, but he can come here, be them beat, be that guy as a freshman for two, one, two, maybe three years, and then get out of here and get a bag, if not, or just leave here and go to the league. Yeah, that's real. So it's right. You gotta realize, like I said, all I say it all the time, hey man, forget the name, forget the conference, go where you're gonna play.

SPEAKER_05 48:26

Ray say that all the time too.

SPEAKER_04 48:28

Guess what? If if I'm a top guy, if I'm a high major guy and I go to a high major and I'm buried on the bench, what am I that next year? In the portal. In the portal. In the portal trying to get the hell on. But you in the portal, but what are you worth now? Nothing. Nothing. Because now you worth less than the dude that was small time and was bowling.

SPEAKER_05 48:52

And did numbers. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 48:53

Now get what that dude finna do? He finna touch the biggest. He's gonna go back spot.

SPEAKER_02 48:58

Yeah. It's all his crazy, yeah. It's all like that now, boy.

SPEAKER_03 49:02

Nah, that's real, Coach. But like, but like before you got on, we talked about that. Like, kids, and and like that's the whole thing about it. Like, when you say go or place where you're gonna play, and if you try to flip that coach to high school, we got kids that that would rather be at a school and don't play than to come to a school and play. I don't like I don't you can't get a chance if you're not playing.

SPEAKER_04 49:27

They don't understand that. But this this is the problem with that, right? And I uh like you got to high you got high school coaches out there that are telling these kids, hey, you come here, we're gonna win state. You win state, everybody eats. But you like, well, you know, I'm I'm kinda like a big, I'm a big deal at my school. Ah, but your school ain't like that. They don't play nobody. You got you need to come here. We play all the top dogs. All right. So now you transfer over though. Y'all maybe play the y'all play, y'all might play some decent teams, but you ain't, you not the guy. You the guy. That's real. So that's the first thing, right? Yeah. You don't win state. So what did you go over there for? Mmm. You left, and bro, at the end of the day, every classification is just one state champion, right? So no matter what classification you in, no matter what classification you in, it's only one champ. So everybody else is didn't win. Uh-huh. Or didn't make it or didn't get it. Yeah. So guess what? You left when you was the man, and it was about you to go somewhere else and not be the man and and not win the whole thing. And not, and you and your mom and dad mad every time somebody says, that was a dumb behind decision already.

SPEAKER_06 50:49

Oh, they hate when you say that, but they make a lot of dumb. Coach, listen, they make a lot of dumb decisions, Coach.

SPEAKER_02 50:56

I tell, like I tell Coach Jenkins, I say, man, sometimes, man, like parents always try to do what's best for their kids, but sometimes parents don't really do what's best for their kids.

SPEAKER_04 51:05

And sometimes, sometimes it be an old retarded behind daddy that don't know nothing. And he's trying to call shots and make and all that. And now you done screwed it up for your kids. And guess what? Your kid.

SPEAKER_03 51:19

I ain't even talking about this. I'm just gonna go.

SPEAKER_04 51:22

Then the kid, your son don't realize after he graduates. My daddy, the reason why I ain't gonna I ain't go to college. Because he made some gun behind the scissors. Let me look at my phone. I ain't talking about this. I'm looking at my phone. I got my email. I'm gonna tell you something, bro. Like, when the mom makes a bad decision, I be like, man, the mama ain't know. The mama ain't, yeah, yeah, yeah. Your daddy's supposed to know when we're talking about the sports, bro. And I and I and that's no knock against no mama that knows us, though, because some of the mamas do know. But I'm saying, when it's the daddy that made the bonehead good mistake, who's supposed to be the head of the household, the leader of the family, bro. You just screwed your son because you you and your feelings about something, or you trying to make it bit by about you instead of about your son. Hey man, if little Ray Ray supposed to be at Pine Ridge, let Lil Ray Ray stay at Pine Ridge. Don't well, I don't like, I don't like coaching. So I'm gonna send my son somewhere. Bro, me and you ain't got to like each other. It's about son like me. Yeah. Me and your son get along. So what the hell are you gonna transfer him for? Okay, transferring, he goes to another school, he goes to the other school, he don't start. We do better than them. Look at AJ. We do better than them, but if I say something, you mad at me. Be mad at me, but like I said before, I said it on Instagram, I said it on Facebook. Hey man, sometimes, bro, sit in the stands, be a proud papa, let coach in do what he do. I can do more for your son than you can. That's the bottom line. And and and and I'm not gonna take, I don't want the credit for it. It's just the bottom line. If your goal is for your son to get to school, that's my goal too. Me and you ain't got to like each other. We ain't got to. I ain't gonna hold no grudge against your kid. Yeah. I'm a player. I'm gonna play. They helped that boy get into school. All you gotta do, dog, is sit on the sideline and be a daddy. What I did this coming, dog, I I didn't coach my son this coming. Yeah, I was a daddy. I was I was on the sideline, I was in the stand, on the sideline, talking crazy to the other parents, other teens. Bro, I had and bro, and I get to say what I want to the referee. Yeah. A referee looked at me and was like, man, I get you out of here. Yo, what I said, yes, my reply was if I got the door outside, you can't come outside.

SPEAKER_06 53:45

Let me ask you a question about that. Let me pick it back off at this point. What was it like just watching him ask his dad in his last AAU run like that, and to see him win it? What was that like as his dad instead of being his coach? What was that like?

SPEAKER_04 53:58

It was it would the stress for me wasn't the same, right? I'm I'm a dad. So if they lose, ain't my fault. Right coach. Yeah, everybody can't blame you, huh? Yeah, they can't blame you. Yeah, they can't say daddy ball, daddy ball. That's what I hear sometimes. That's what I hear sometimes. Like, man, we I think we I think we got we gotta get your ball, your son the ball a little bit more. Hey man, I ain't the coach, bro. I ain't the coach. Like, go, yeah, go, you know what I'm saying? That that that's that's on the coaches. My thing, well, I'm sitting there, hey man, I'm enjoying, I get talk trash. I I'm I'm I'm flying all over the country, watching my son do his thing. Man, I enjoy myself, you know. Eating good, eating good everywhere, yeah. What hey, what, hey, for eating good for free? That's what I'm free. Five-star hotel for free. That's what I'm talking about. Well, I had I man, I had a blog just on the car. That's what the fuck. Do you know how good it is? Listen, do you know how good it is to get on the plane and fly all over the country? And all I need is my ID. I ain't got to bring my debit card, credit card. That's a good feeling, boy. What? Gotcha, Mr. Robinson. Come over here, Mr. Robinson. Hey, what what what you want to eat, Mr. Robson? I'm having the time of my life, dog. I'm trying to tell you. Bro, I didn't spin a dime. That's that's that's what we walk there. Like, like, like, I and I feel for some pre-bro, this stuff costs. It costs, Coke. Bro, I ain't spin a dime. It costs, coach. That's the sacrifice. If you ain't no high-level kid, thank you. And and this and another thing, so because I know we're gonna touch on a few things tonight, but this and everything, like, when we telling, and I I need the parents and the players to listen to what I'm finna say right now. When you got decent coaching, you got good coaching, you got great coaching, you got elite coaching. When your coach is telling you, hey man, you got to get in the gym. You got to work on your game. You better get in the gym, work on your game. Ain't nothing better than free kids.

SPEAKER_03 56:07

Trying to tell you.

SPEAKER_04 56:09

Hey man, you some of these kids they dealing with, man, my mama, my mama can't afford it. Or my mama just don't want to pay it. My daddy can't afford it, or my daddy don't want to pay it. Hey man, you get your behind in that gym. Give you some frame right. They ain't gotta, they ain't gotta want to, and they, because guess what? Somebody gonna come get you, and it's gonna be you're playing for free.

SPEAKER_03 56:29

But here, it's funny that you said that. So, you know, my you know, you guys know my daughter didn't play no basketball. We played volleyball.

SPEAKER_01 56:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 56:35

Same way. Like when my daughter was running up and down that day, we ain't have it like we have it now. But we made the sacrifices for her to get there. So we don't put all the blame and all the focus on the coach, but we made sure she went where she had to go. These parents expect us to work the miracle. You gotta put a little bit of you gotta put a little bit of skin in that thing too. Yeah, I can't do it by myself. Okay, you know what I'm saying? And then this is the thing. Nowadays, how this whole basketball thing is going, coach, like people can literally get on the internet, find drills, and go work by yourself. You don't need a trainer. I don't need to open this door. I live right by Derbyshire Park. I ride past that park two times a day. It's probably 12 courts out there with nets, and there's never any kids out there.

SPEAKER_04 57:25

Bro, you wanna know what's crazy? I'm uh I'm gonna I'ma one up you on that, right? Let's say you can't, let's say I got a son and AJ is a trainer, and somebody says, hey man, you need to go over there and let AJ work your son out. How much is it? Man, it's like $75 a session. Man, I can't afford that. I can't do this for long term. Guess what you do? Hey man, I'm gonna send him to AJ. Let AJ give him two or workout this first session. Next week, it's a different workout. That third week, it's a different workout. That fourth week, it's a different workout. Boy, we got four workouts. We can talk about that, Jake. Well, hey, we got four workouts you can do to get better, dog. That's real. That is real. Hey, like you just said, hey man, I'm on YouTube. Then guess what, guess what else I can always do? What? I can go coach, coach games. You must go ahead and coach. You know, we didn't train for AJ. I done got a, hey man, what little man needs to work on to get better.

SPEAKER_03 58:28

See, but coach, that's what parents won't act. And see, like that, so people get mad at me when I like when I talk about it.

SPEAKER_01 58:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 58:35

I said, how can you train my kid that's on my team, but you ain't never talked to me about what you should do on the floor. What you doing ain't gonna get him on the floor. I don't need him to go behind the back between the legs upside down. I need him to be able to catch and shoot this freaking three ball at a 40% clip.

SPEAKER_04 58:55

Now guess what? As a parent, I was supposed to ask, okay, so that's all you that's what he needs to do.

SPEAKER_03 58:59

If he wanna play this year right here, I need him to be able to make this corner three 40% of the time when we kick it out there.

unknown 59:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 59:08

Nothing up. And then next year, we can build on some more.

SPEAKER_04 59:11

Coach, I I just need you to be able to hit the 35% of the time.

SPEAKER_03 59:16

Coach, we need, coach, we don't have a Henry Robinson. I need you to get 40%. I need my.

SPEAKER_04 59:30

The reason why I asked him for four is because that's called elite.

SPEAKER_03 59:35

Coach, 40%. I just need you to be good. Coach, 40% is four out of 10. My shooter shoot right at 38.

SPEAKER_06 59:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 59:43

And like he shot it bad this year, but he still shot 38.

SPEAKER_06 59:47

Yeah, he better shoot it good this year.

SPEAKER_03 59:49

Oh, nah, coach, we're gonna be 45 plus.

SPEAKER_04 59:51

That's what I'm hoping for a little bit for mine, because Junior Junior ended up the season, he ended up shooting 42. See, you gotta shoot it. Yeah, he shot three. He shoot the ball now.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:02

Now, coach, this is the this is a question that I had sent AJ and one of our last questions that we were gonna talk about, and I want to see what your what your take is on this right here. And this is a question about AAU programs, right? How important it is in your kids' future for them to choose the right AU program? Because I think parents choose an AAU program just for their kid can play. But if that coach don't have a direct connection to college coaches, what are y'all doing? So, how important it is for nowadays in this new high school realm is for a kid to choose the right AAU program.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:43

All right, so I'm gonna start off like this. It depends on that kid, right? Because if that kid ain't got game like that, it don't matter. I'm gonna just I'm gonna be real to all his parents. Hey, and if your kid can't play like that, don't be worried about that that exposure. Because your kid ain't gonna get no exposure. Playing if if he ain't like that, and let's say he gets put on, y'all, y'all filed a favor or y'all know somebody, and they putting him on the circuit team, and he can't play. You're gonna be mad that he don't play a lot, first of all. Yep. But guess what? You can't be mad because he can't, he's not good anyway. Yeah. He got, they, they, they, that, that team did, did y'all a favor, right? So with that favor, that means you ain't gonna play a lot. Right? So, and if you're not that good, you need to, that those are the kids that need to be on these local teams that don't travel and go nowhere. And like Ray said, they don't got, they don't really got no connects. So they can't really do nothing for the kid. And and before I can go on, because it's on my mind, I got to say this. To these AAU programs that don't, hey man, when you ain't got them connections like that, and you you're not involved on the circuit nowhere, and you can't reach out and make phone calls for them kids, hey man, be up front with these parents and these parents. And tell them that. And let them know, hey, my AAU program is uh is developmental. Developmental. This is where you come, that where you're gonna get some burn, extra burn during the spot and get game reps and work on your game that try and get you to that next level. But stop telling these people, yeah, we go play in a live period. Hey, man, everybody, everybody plays during the live period. Everybody, for the most part. But just because you're playing during the live period, that don't mean there's no coaches there because you're not in part of it. And you're not playing nobody. And you ain't playing nobody. Look, man, you might be at a live event, right? And they got the main gym, which that is at some sports complex. It's the live period, and you you playing inside some middle school gym, ain't no coaches coming over there. Ain't no coaches in that gym. So this is what happens. Y'all telling, y'all, the whole summer is leading up to live period. Yeah, we gon', man, like y'all gotta get ready to play in front of these coaches. Man, who the hell you got on your team that's recruitable? Gotta have at least one. At least to come. For them to put you in the main gym. You gotta be in the main gym. That's why.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:13

If you're not in the main gym, ain't nobody, man, them coaches ain't coaching. Coach, coach, it's more than the is more than the main gym. You can't be in the main gym playing at 8 o'clock a.m. and dog on 11 o'clock p.m.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:25

Hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm I'm gonna tell you this. I I'm I'm gonna tell you this. You got you got a lot of coaches that's gonna show it to that 8 a.m. game and no one's gonna go. Okay, depending, depending on who's playing. Yeah. Because they're getting out of the way early. Yeah, because you gotta think. If you got, if you got the number one player in the country playing at 8 a.m., first of all, hold on. First of all, the coach is gonna say something to the pro the uh the the event direct, like, hey man, come on now. Don't do this shit to me next summer. He needs to play at 11:30. Yeah. Like your the main, main guy shouldn't be touching the floor till 10, 30, 11 o'clock. Absolutely. Yeah. But depending on who's playing, coaches come. Or if if I'm recruiting you heavy or you're not committed to me, I they they gonna show up if you play. If you play at 8 o'clock. You know what I'm saying? But like you said, but for the most part, man, the coaches ain't there at 8 o'clock in the morning, dog. So listen, we got one of these phone calls. We had a 10 o'clock game. And the coach, it was three or four coaches, said, hey, what time y'all, what time y'all play y'all next game? Cause we ain't coming. Because it was a game, it was a day we had two games. And we was like, well, we our second game will be at six. We'll be at the six o'clock game. But Jokers ain't trying to get that two too early. Like Ray said. Like I said, it depends on who playing, like playing.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:48

Maybe not a doll. Yeah, but like for me, like I said. Put it like this. I was telling you earlier, Hen, like for me, if I'm coaching AAU, I'm going to the tournaments, I'm asking whoever the director is, even though they're gonna give me hell, I need to play the best team out here. I'm trying to send kids to school. Maybe my kid goes off out here today. But I need to play a good team. I don't want to play the worst team, I don't want to play no bad team. I'm not playing no division two. I'm not playing the bad other mess. I need to play the best team. I don't give a damn. We get beat by 50, but if my if if my better kid have a good game, he might have a chance.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:23

Yeah, yeah. If you got, if you got somebody, if you got something to work with on your team, that that that's the worst, that that's the worst thing you can do is not speak up for your guy. You got, you got like, you got, because at the end of the day, they might say, hey, we don't know who this hell is here, who the hell this kid is you talking about. Send us to look, what who what what how good is it? So you gotta have something to back it up. Then they might they might hit you with the hey, at one o'clock, you gonna get your shot.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:53

If he plays bad and y'all get whooped, hey man, don't you ask us for no more favor. That's real. But listen, that's one you got to tell your kids. Hey now, I done raised all as hell to get y'all this game. Man, what win, lose, or draw, we gotta look good. Yeah, that's real. If we go out there and get killed, they they gonna have us in the backcourt at the middle school every time we come to the kids. Oh man. That's real, though. Gotta have the right fit on your travel team, bro. But nah man, go back to the the coaches, man. Like, coaches just got to be real and be honest, man. That's that's that's that's you get you get vilified when you do that. Bro, listen, but that's the thing. If you ain't got no connection, you ain't you can't reach out and make, man, just say, hey, um, all you gotta do is tell the parents, hey man, I'm where I'm still, I'm still getting my feet wet. I'm trying to figure this thing out. But don't, hey, oh, I got connected to all the D1s. I can do this, I can do that. Lies, lies. They'll double back quick, though. They they they go to stutter when you, oh, okay, well, who do you know? Who do you know? Who has some kids double back, the mean man double back? Who have you put it? Who have you put in school? What policies, what, what school, what, what college coaches you gotta connect with? Parents gotta ask them questions and stop falling for the opi-doke, man. Yeah. Or stop believing if they go to this school, that means they're gonna go to school because people 30, 40 years ago went to school. Man, listen. I don't understand. You so you so mess. Nah, put it on proof, bro. Put it like this. Put it like this. How many players in this area got D1 offers right now? Come on, man. Or have those D1, and let's go back. I'm gonna just say go back to the last five, ten years. How many D1 basketball players are coming out of this area? Let's count them. Mari Alchaball, Jordan Sears.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:57

Oh, that wasn't five years ago. Mari Archibald, or been gone. No, he said five ten. He said five ten. Archibald.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:03

Marchaball.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:04

Um my kids?

SPEAKER_04 1:08:06

Um Jordan Sears.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:08

That's another kid I put on.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:10

Um who else went? D1?

SPEAKER_06 1:08:13

Ooh.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:14

Am I missing?

SPEAKER_06 1:08:15

Who am I missing?

SPEAKER_03 1:08:16

That's it. Oh no, uh Hanson, Blake Hanson. That's another kid that who I know well.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:23

Um RJ, RJ, RJ. Oh, yeah. Who RJ played for? Um, Johnny, Johnny.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:32

Come on, come, come, D my kids. We coming back from Georgia now. Yeah, I remember. I remember.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:41

All right, so that's five. I think that's it. That's it. All right, now, now they'll five you, don't five you named. What schools did they play at? They play at Long Beach State, Family. No, no, no, no. Well, high school, high school, what high school they came out of? Mainland, Trinity, Trinity Christian.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:02

And Del Tona. And Del Tona. Absolutely. But but coach, let me put this out here like this though. The one kid that went to Long Beach State, let me tell you how gangster I am with it. He played for me at Calvary, was dominant. And at the time, Calvary, we weren't, we wasn't ready to coach a kid of that magnitude. I held his hand and walked him to a coach.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:34

Take care of him. His mama was like, Coach, if you're not, he's staying here. I said, if he stays here, I'm quitting. He's too good for me. At the time we didn't have the infrastructure to be able to put good people around him. Now, I wish I would have kept him on that year, because he was he was that class with them dudes that we went to the final, that we was one game away from the final four, coach. We would have went to the final four. We would have beat North Florida. Yeah, we would have to the final four. But held his hand, coach, and walked him down.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:08

But jokers won't remember that. Oh, coach.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:11

They don't remember who jump started one of those kids recruiting. Oh, yeah, they don't remember that. They don't remember who did that.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:16

Me and my brother jump started one on them, boy. Okay. So it's like put it like this. So let that I let I'm making the point. Not a lot, bro. I'm I'm making the point, right? Hold on. Not only the number, how many of them kids that went D1 was at the same high school their whole career?

unknown 1:10:39

Ooh.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:40

None. No, just Johnny. And Mari. And Mari, yeah, just Johnny. And and Blake.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:46

No, no, no, not Blake. Blake left. He left. He left. With the Sunrise Christian, yeah. Yeah, he was at Dell Jones. That's the thing. So what I hate is when in certain situations, it makes sense. It made sense for all of them. It makes sense for a kid to leave the school he started at and go to that that second school. But a lot of times it really don't. And I'm gonna tell you why I say that. If you got a kid and he had a small school, and I'm matter of fact, I'm gonna use, I'm gonna use Ray kid. Ray, when he left you, what school he went to? Which one of my kids? Oh, he went to he went to D. Creek first. What are you talking about? Talking about uh RJ.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:34

I sent him the one I went to Long Beach State. I sent him the creek.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:39

You sent him the creek.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:40

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:41

I'ma I'm gonna I'm I'm gonna say this. For that kid, how how many years you had?

SPEAKER_03 1:11:49

Two two. I had him eighth grade, ninth grade. He averaged 20 points in the eighth grade and probably 20 21 in the ninth or something like that. Yeah, eighth and ninth grade.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:59

For that kid right there, you you you said we didn't have the right pieces or the right people to put around him, right? As an eighth grader, how many points did he average? 20. As a ninth grader, how many did he average? About 21, 22. All right, so I'm gonna compare him to junior. As a freshman, 20. As a sophomore, 21. As a junior, 27. He done had the same people around him the whole time. Yeah. And now look, yeah. Sometimes it don't make sense because this is what happens. You teach a kid, you get him when nobody wanted him, you build him into something, you send him to somebody else, and then they take all the credit. When they the kid, but they ain't get the kid no better. I already know, Coach. So my this is my thing. And I want these parents to listen to me when I'm saying this. Man, you ain't got to send your baby nowhere else if he already do putting in the work and he getting recognition. Cause guess what? That school, the school you send your child to, they only want your style now because he's good. Where was they at when he wasn't good? Talk about it. Talk about it. Where was that when he wasn't good? Man, I seen that, man. A parent dropped an egg on a kid around here, man. And talk about it. You you you send him to this new school. That new school, it did it help. Is it more beneficial for your child or is it more beneficial for that school? Talk about it. Because I'm gonna touch in on this. Like, I my I love the villagers.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:44

Cole, don't go away. See, that was God. That was God. Oh, Lau, you back.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:51

Oh, what I'm saying is, I love Manny the Duff. We talked about him earlier, man. Listen, Manny is finna take about three or four shots to go. Him going there is great for them. Cause they need a big. So now Jomar don't have to see. This is where Jomar ain't got to play the four or the five. Cause he got Manny. Oh Lord, I'm I'm about to go to sleep. Up the coat. Good night, man. Nah, dog. I'm saying it because and I need manning, I need manning to sit to sit here this shit. He listened. Because listen, Junior averaged 27 points a game. Had to accept that role. Manage finna have to accept that role. That's not an easy role to accept, because guess what? This is what happens. For junior, he might be guarding the other team best player. Every time, buddy, if he gets scored on, on the other end, when you with your team, you get to go back at it. Yeah. In this situation, you not. 30 and 10. I thought he was gonna average 30 and 10 at Atlanta this year. That's the thing, bro. So it's like for it to make sense, because we we uh and I'm being I'm being 100% honest. For it to make sense, they got to win state. For it to make sense for Junior, we had to win that natty, which we did. If you're gonna make a sacrifice, you gotta win it. You gotta win it, bro. And people don't understand that. Like, they're gonna be in that top eight, though. And that's gonna be that's gonna be crucial. That's gonna be hard, bro. Like, you got to know your kid, you gotta know the situation you putting your kid in.

unknown 1:15:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:49

Is he gonna bear the hand of that? So, bro, that junk's different, man, when you when you the guy, and now you're not the guy. And you looking at, damn, boy, they looked out. I done got looked off three or four times. You gonna keep me looked off too.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:04

Coach, about those five kids. Leave what you said last night, the other night when we was on. All those kids, one was six, five and can jump over the gym. That was RJ, and was tough and had size. The other one was six, nine, could shoot the three.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:21

Day one, the other one was a six, three, six, four point guy who playing professionally overseas. Blake was a six, six, six, seven wing who can shoot the ball and poke. So it wasn't just no labs, now. Yeah, like the one. They can go everywhere. They can go anywhere and transfer. Like the rest of y'all, 5'10, 5, y'all gotta get on a different road. And I had a kid that's about six foot now. He was on the road, bro.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:44

And the daddy threw egg all in his face. See. Bro, your listen, dog, because I'm a daddy. Man, your daddy can be your best and biggest weapon. And your worst nightmare. Or your worst damn nightmare, dawg. Yeah. I'm gonna tell you. Like, listen, because Ray done had to coach against it. Ray, you, Ray can tell you, hey, dog, everything with me and my son don't be damn peaches and crazy.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:11

Nah, he's cussing my heart.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:12

Well, leave that baby alone, man. God damn it. Bro, I'm not coaching. Listen, I'd be on, like, when I I be, I hate him when people say, oh, he can't do whatever he wants. Nah, hell no. My son will tell you straight up, hey man, dog, sometimes, and I'm I'm I'm finna be a little vulgar. My son will tell you straight up, sometimes I wish my daddy'll shut the fuck up. That's the bottom line, dog.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:39

Yeah. Because I hold him to a higher standard than anybody else. Bro, Junior, bro, the Junior get kicked out of practice, practice the first or second day every year. Because he's playing. Because like when anytime he, if I feel like he he joking around too much of playing, man, get get get out, man. Bye. Call your mama. We ain't doing that. Because you're gonna have them thinking it's okay. And they can't do what you can do. We were talking about that today, remember, uh Ray? Yeah. That could that can really that can really kill your whole program. It didn't one program around here. I need, I need, I need them, I need my guys to go, hey, I I kick my son out to gym. So if I see him out, and he the best player we got, what you think I do to y'all? Oh, Josh. Come on, fast. We speaking fast. Coach, you was on your poo pot earlier. Coach, they already gonna kill me around here.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:37

So I was like, ah, listen, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:44

But I was talking to I was talking to Travis yesterday, and I think me and AJ talked about this a little bit too. Like right now, other than your son, and now Manny's gonna like, we don't have a bunch of high, mid, low major kids. So like I told, like I was telling, I said, I think a lot of these kids, because now you got that five to play five, y'all need to go take y'all behind the JUCO and go play and get bigger, faster, stronger, then give it a shot. Y'all out here, because I I told him, I said, I will never recommend a kid to go D2, D3, or NAIA, because that shit costs a lot. And so now you're gonna leave school in debt. Go to JUCO and figure it out and go play two at JUCO, get you an associate degree, then move on, if you're good enough, to a four-year school. That's what I tell kids now. I'm gonna tell you something else.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:32

Hey, because I played JUCO and I then I went to NIA school. Bro, and and parents, once again, listen. You send your son or your daughter to NAIA school, they better be very mature and able to handle their business. Because NAI players are old as hell. Grown men. You playing against grown men and grown. Like you coming in there, you talking about you 17, 18, 19, man, half your team is 22, 23, and old. So this is their last stop. Oh, hey, yeah. This is their last stop, dog. And guess what? They play, they're stronger than you. They more sure you.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:16

They know more about the game than you. And some, if you didn't, if you play their position, man, hey man, coach told me to come tell you X, Y, Z. Man, guess what? You were supposed to be to the gym at 2 o'clock. They done told you 4 o'clock.

SPEAKER_07 1:20:34

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:35

Coach, y'all play Atlanta this year? Nah, we don't. Oh. See, I need to. I need.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:44

You so damn messy, AJ.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:47

Bro, I just asked him a question. Cause the five-star, bro. So stop being messy, though. I play their girl. I'm not. I'm not being real, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:57

But listen, but hey, man. I ain't gonna lie, man. I that I that that changed the whole dynamic of their team, too, dog. Bro, didn't we just talk about that, Ray? That's a tough spot to be in, bro. It is. But I mean, you can't blame him because of the situation he's going into. Yeah. I know he's going giving us a that's what Ray said. But he said he's trying to give himself a chance at it. Hey, he ain't gonna touch that ball. Coach stop. That ball ain't going down low, dog. Coach is gone. Yeah. When it goes in through the net. Coach, you don't coach, don't do.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:32

Coach, Coach, you can't get on the pot. We on where we on YouTube now.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:36

Yeah. Guess what? I'm telling you what I know. Man, hey, man, if you piss that thing off the rim. You know the dynamic of the hard coach. Hey, if he get caught in that cone and it comes to him, well, you better be efficient. Yeah, he can shoot the little thrill of it. He can shoot the thrill. Okay, let him hit that. Let him get that first miss. He gonna he gonna be in the corner talking about muscle. Swag it, swag it. Nah, dog. I can't, man. Go on to the next topic, man. Nah, I ain't got no more topics. I ain't I ain't fooling with y'all, man, because y'all joke is crazy. Hey, but who else who else done? Since we own it, who else done transferred that I need to get on? Coach. One of his other guards done transferred out of the who guards? From Atlantic, right? Yeah. They go where? The main one? No to uh FPC. Y'all gonna leave Travis alone, man. Leave my boy alone. Coach, this is what's going on. Kids break your transfer portal. And everybody seeing it. No, bro, listen. Huh? Travis, my boy. I talked to Travis today.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:46

Yeah, leave my guy alone, man. Leave my boy alone.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:48

Travis, my guy, I talked to him today, too. Yeah. And Travis can cuss me out later if he gets mad at me for this. That's my guy. And I'll take that, I'll take that tongue last year. Listen, me and him trust some stuff. Bro, his coach is mad that's telling him he's supposed to he should be mad. He told me about the Jew. No, he's not. He don't control it. It's not his kid.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:15

That's not his son.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:16

It's not his son. He can't control it. He can't control it. He said straight, he said, man, I am. He said, man, I'm I'm I'm glad for the kid because it's a step up. They can do, they can, they can do stuff for him that I can't. I can't do. Yeah. He's real. Only way it don't make sense is if it's a lateral move. That's what I say. Yeah, yeah. That's what I say. I said this. I said, I told, I say, dog, it would have made sense if he was gonna leave and stay local to come, and I'm not down trying to steal him, but to come play next to Junior. Because you got to the top two guys. Ray said that. Yeah. You got the top two guys in the area playing next to it. Well, two of the top, because I feel like Caden is can can is one of them ones too. But you got two of the top guys playing it with each other, and the fact that they both can play the three, four, five, yeah, it can help each other out.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:07

I'm gonna go, you are you gonna stop leaving my killers out of the best kids in the area, but go ahead though.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:14

You going one district.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:15

You got one though.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:16

You got one for sure. You got one for sure. You got one. Nah, what's the name of Raw Two though? Nah, but no, but you know, you know what? We're gonna drop that list.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:24

We're gonna drop that list when school starts. No, but you're right, though. No, but no, but here, that's the same thing I said. I said if you're gonna go somewhere, go somewhere with somebody that's going to attract some attention for you. I respect it. Like, like, at the end of the day, like we talked about this before you got on, coaches, that we want kids to be able to get an opportunity. That's all I ask for. So if you got to go somewhere else to go get it, go get it.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:50

That's like I said, one of my guys, uh uh Noah, he's leaving to go to uh Luciana. Is he there? I don't know. Have you not seen him? I ain't seen. Yeah, he's there then. Have you called him? I'll ask that tomorrow. Uh huh.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:06

Have you called him?

SPEAKER_04 1:25:08

For what? Well, you such a guy. I was told he was gone. I was told by he got he went and got the variance. He wanted to go to Newsom Learning. And I mean, we text, he texted me, he texted me Friday or Saturday, and he was like, Pops, I got my first offer. I say, hey, good shit, son. And I left it, left it at that. That's my like, listen, that's my guy's son.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:33

Like, I'm, if you want to leave, okay. I don't want my kids to leave. Guys, please don't leave me. I might, I might kill myself this time.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:40

I need a couple girls to get in that portal.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:42

Y'all are not gonna play at them schools. Oh, God. I'ma say this. He my godson, dog. I I know what to do to get him out of this game. Yeah, you better get it comp. Yeah, yeah. Damn, so that means one of my jits from the runner is gonna sit down. Dang, bro. Again. Again. Don't go over there and don't start. Oh my god. Oh, he's finna start when they go over there. No, he's not. Where? Bro, he's bro. I don't know who else over there. I'm telling you, bro, he's not. Listen, I'm not gonna say it. Yes. Going to the bitch. You figure. I I just know one of my one of my freshmen is gonna start in that spot. That's all I know.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:35

Co job some damn ass.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:38

I'm seeing it. I know. Co, that's how you gotta do it. I'm just gonna pick off a couple of transfers in the next couple months. About a month. I got a month left.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:45

Listen to me.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:46

I gotta get one out of that portal.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:48

Young fella, about sixth three. Yeah, he can play.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:53

Yeah. You got him, you got him over there now. They already over there, so that probably why he loves, man. You know, kids see other kids coming, that's probably better than them.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:59

Be like, man, I'm finna go to New Smyrna. But he still was gonna start. Coach, that man probably feels like he ain't in his mind. Like me and Ray B. Sad, I say sometimes Ray, you gotta think, put yourself in the mind of a kid. This is my thing. Whoever, whoever he worked with, trained with, whatever, whatever, if they told him anything other than stay, then they they're responsible for whatever the outcome is. And that happens a lot. If it don't work out for them, they need to stand up and take, take the, the, the, the blame for if it don't go right.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:34

Okay, listen, this is this is what I know for a fact, man. Like, what I've learned the last couple years, man, is that these kids wanted to be, these kids want to be one, folks. If your kid is leaving, all it would have took was, and I know you're like me. You like to have.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:54

I haven't said. And no, I'm not gonna do it.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:59

The kid wants to do it. To be wanted, dog. The kid didn't want to be a water.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:02

What they want you to do is pick up the phone. Yes. Hey man, don't leave. I'm not doing that. Oh, y'all know I ain't doing it. I'm gonna get you to come, but I ain't gonna get you to the.

SPEAKER_06 1:28:12

If you wanna leave, you gotta go. Bro. But I just it's only one kid. It's only one kid that I wish wouldn't have left, bro. Because I think it messed up his whole. He gonna have, he's gonna need help now. He's gonna need help. And if he wasn't a left, he wouldn't have needed as much help.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:28:30

But he's gonna need help.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:31

So y'all already know, I'm the uh push him off the push him off the cliff guy. If I hear you leaving, hey man, good luck where you gone, man. We wish you well. Just let me know.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:40

Bro, then I'm gonna tell you I done told I done told my old son, man, transfer. Get away from me. But like y'all, like, people don't understand. Like, like, so Ray, Ray can attest to this. When you meet my son, is what's up, coach? How you doing, coach? He's a great kid. Bro, they'll make the conversations me and my son have, dog. He's a great kid. He's a great kid. But with his man, like, bro, like, cause I allow him to express himself, whatever. I one-on-ones, bro, I be ready to fight this dude, man. So I can tell him, leave him alone.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:18

God damn.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:19

Bro, because he like, bro, y'all don't understand, dawg. He, like, and on the flip side, man, that boy be giving me hell, dog. Because I tell him all the time, see that baby alone, man. Hey, what do y'all think?

SPEAKER_06 1:29:30

Where y'all think Atlanta gonna finish in the five-star?

SPEAKER_04 1:29:33

Now? I don't know, dog. Yeah. It won't happen this year. Oh my God.

SPEAKER_06 1:29:45

That's five-star. Who's gonna be in the five-star championship this year? It can't be both of y'all. It might be in the. Y'all know two different sides, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:29:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:29:52

It'll probably be y'all.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:54

It might be, it'll probably be. If he do his job, it'll be us. You got to do that I'm gonna go. It might be y'all. It might be y'all though, really. You got to do your job, dog. Cause it this was finna happen, dog. All the main people finna see this. And they're gonna have their panties gonna be in the bunch and they're gonna be mad and talking. Yes, coach here in the cell or not. I'm talking. Oh my god. The dog coach has yet to call me. Oh lord.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:19

Coach, you was on your tube pot. Let dog get on his pot.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:23

Joe called that man. Joe that game. And Joe, Joe's supposed to be my dog, man. AJ, you soak. You old gaslighter, dog. That's all you want.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:32

Coach they ride. No, Coach. Wait, put your head out here, dog. Coach, I play Atlanta my first game.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:39

They might beat me.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:41

Boy, if you lose a John Rogers, dog. John Rogers got a 6'3, 6'4 girl over the whole world now. He definitely do.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:48

Yeah. But get what I heard. China corner? Jesus Christ. Where y'all think she's gonna go? She breeze. No.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:03

She might. She might. Man, I got Chick-fil-A cards for you, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:08

Oh my god. She breeze. McDonald's right around the corner, man. I got McDonald's. Right on the campus, all Mozana. Go through the gate. Well, we gonna be scraped though.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:18

I'm gonna surprise a lot of people though, real talk, bro. Coach, why you keep calling out my boy? Joe's gonna beat y'all by 50.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:25

B, who by 50? You must be talking eight days. B who about 50? Hey, you gotta do that game on a Friday, though. See if they'll play on a Friday, cuz. Man, he won't call, he won't schedule the game.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:41

Joe might not be doing that five-star stuff then. He got Joe Joe won't do that. No, he got to. He don't, he doesn't have to. No. If y'all keep saying that, Joe has told y'all before. Now it's man to code. They don't play that. Oh, that man, they said that back then.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:52

That man got out of Joe ain't getting in that stuff, man. Listen, man. Y'all gonna get up off my homie dog. Chill out. If Joe don't do the five-star, I ain't need it. How about that? There it is. I'm gonna go see it. If he ain't gotta do it, then I'm gonna I'm gonna delete my games and go play me for four or five more powerhouses and boost up my stunker schedule. Bro, I'm telling you, bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:17

Yeah, I was.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:19

Now, Spears, though, when we talk, he said, man, I'm trying to pick out the fucking things and we're gonna figure it out. Now that was in June. Here, you know what I'm gonna do? I'm banning you. You can't come back on here.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:32

I'm never calling you a kid. That's my dog, though.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:36

We're gonna bid the city up, man. I'm playing um Bistri Snyder this year. I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna be real with you, dog. And a lot of people are gonna hate, gonna be mad that I'm saying this. Man, Volusia County basketball wasn't fun until me and my son came home, man. They know they love this, dog. Man, we're making it fun, dog. This is what you gotta do. Then you add N Ray because they don't like Ray either. Yeah, then we listen.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:01

But listen, this is what people used to get mad at me and AJ about. Me and AJ. But the game's live. Hey, me and AJ Carl, nah. Hey, Henry, me and AJ will literally get on the phone the night before saying, hey, look, this is what I'm gonna post. I need you to post this. Just to get some excitement. They say, what's wrong with you and AJ? Y'all don't like each other? Nah, I don't like that song, bitch. He makes me sick. But the whole time, we sitting on the side laughing because y'all are like, Coach, it was so crazy around it. It was like, why do y'all act like that? Hey, man, the hell with AJ. We got cry, nah. AJ walk into the gym when we played Creek. He walk in the gym with the meme, and he won't even speak to me. I said, but I understand it though. You know what I'm saying? That's what we I I get it. Gotta bring some excitement around here. I agree with you.

SPEAKER_06 1:33:48

Bro, I ain't talking to none. I ain't talking to none of these girls, coaches. At the coach's meeting, don't talk to me. None of that. Coach, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:56

They've been trying to run down on everybody calling everybody calling the sleeves to play their girls, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:00

Everybody wanna play me now. I got a question, right? I got a question for AJ. So if a team late to come play y'all, you gonna try and start the game without the head coach again? Oh, what up? I'm damn sure doing it now. Throw it up.

SPEAKER_06 1:34:13

The coach know what time the game starts. We not waiting no five minutes emergency time five minutes. I know the rules five minutes on the clock. I know the rules now. They got more than five people, he'll throw that ball up.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:26

Ain't no warm-up, you're not daddy coach.

SPEAKER_06 1:34:28

I know the rules. Uh uh-huh. Man, I walked in the middle. It's an emergency five minutes. If they got three, I think sometimes folk, because you can play with folks three, they can kind of like you're doing that.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:37

So if it's three kids there, they can't be able to do that. We had to just, we had uh just beat uh Menendez. I was there.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:46

Well, yeah. We were trying to start it quick. They came back and ran us down, though. I walk in the gym, they jumping ball, I'm like, hey, what are we doing?

SPEAKER_06 1:34:55

You know what time the game starts.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:58

First of all. First of all, we caught behind a damn car wreck, and we telling them that traffic ain't moving. It's not. They call, they hear me back, like, oh, don't worry about it. We'll we'll wait till you get here. We'll wait until you get here. I'm like, all right, cool. We good. The game I like, we we getting through, we get through. I'm telling the guys, hey man, uh, be ready to run in the gym to warm up and we can get going. Little do I know that I had like five, four of the, and this, the young guys, yeah. They wrote with they wrote with uh one of the twins' mama. Y'all were like, yeah, y'all listen, they walked us down though. They walked us down. This is the thing though, right? Well, you was there. You know the young guys, they with it because they like, shit, we get the start. And we get the shoot, yeah, and we get to shoot. Yeah. Man, as soon as I walked, hey man, all five of y'all go sit down.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:56

But coach, this is what you gotta do. You got to learn that all the good guys can't ride with you. Hey, some of y'all got to go to other.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:04

No, that was that that's the problem.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:06

Yeah, everybody can't ride with you.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:07

No, no, no. All the sorry dudes got to be in the, got to be with me to make sure the ass ain't up trying to start the game.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:14

Yeah, y'all can't ride with, nah, y'all ride with the other, y'all ride with somebody else.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:17

Yeah, man. I think.

unknown 1:36:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:20

Coach, we still on the line. We still got live on the tube.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:23

Huh? Oh, we live on the tube, man. Yeah, we on the tube. Junior got that first dunk and went to talking crazy. I said, ah, yeah, we good now. Coach, y'all methodically walked us down, Coach. We have two, dog.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:36

We only had one player that we could play that could play out there.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:39

Yeah. And he did everything he could. He did everything. Could he just by himself? I guess it's by himself. But you know, they said he wasn't the best player on the team. They were hating on him, Coach. Man, what up? And it's funny though, because him and Junior cool.

unknown 1:36:55

I know.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:57

Like, I I I told somebody this, I say, bro, when it comes to basketball, dog, I say, for the most part, all the dogs is cool with each other. Yeah. All still elite kids, they, they, they, they cool with it, they big up each other, they show each other love. They know who can play and who can't play at the end of the day, they know. Man, they be them jokers who can't play, their mamas and daddies trying to come, oh, you just as good as him. No more. Okay, coach, coach. Do you think Trey Man 17 U10 gonna be? Then they're gonna go back to back? Talking about the 16s as that the ones the 16s? Yeah. Oh yeah. I'm gonna tell you why. I'm gonna tell you why. They point guard him to play the whole summer. Oh. See, they point guard him, he played, he played, he he he actually plays up. But he has served soldier service, so he he didn't play the whole summer. Where's Cooley go to? The villagers. Oh, shh, and so you know what he's playing. So let me say they won the peace jam, which means they're gonna get some more. Listen, so I'm gonna say this again. The point guard wasn't there, right? He goes to the villagers, right? So that's him on the villagers team. Oh, man. You got the best, the best player on the Trey Man ninth grade team goes to the villagers. You got Britt. You got Joe Marsh. So I'm gonna say this again. Man ain't touching the ball, dog.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:18

Oh God, stop it.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:20

He's not. He's a post player, dog. Yeah. This game, when you got dynamic guards, dynamic guards is gonna store that ball.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:29

But coach, we all know that big men are only as good as their guards are. We know that. Yeah. If they can get it, and like and like A B is a elite passer.

SPEAKER_07 1:38:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:44

If you run the floor, he's gonna dime it to you. I joke and pass the rock, man. That's why I like him. He passed the rock.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:51

Hey, hey. Are you looking? Are you listening?

SPEAKER_03 1:38:56

I'm listening, man. Lord have listened.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:58

I'm listening. When you say if you run the floor, that means you better run the floor every time. That yo, that's already in pin. Listen, A Burdy and Pen. A B can die in that thing. But if A B C in the daylight getting to that rim, oh, it's show time.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:21

He's one of those, he is a guard that I really, really enjoy watching this summer. Yeah. I was more fan, fanboying worse than the kids on my team. Like, I took the play.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:32

I see one from Chicago, a little white boy from Chicago, bro. A B is top five point guard in the country.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:38

I mean, listen, I was over there mesmerizing. I'm watching, I'm like, Eddie, I'm like, because he plays at such a good pace. Nobody ease him up. He be having a good time out there.

SPEAKER_06 1:39:49

I've been Chicago Demons got one. Y'all gonna hear about him.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:53

I promise you that. You know his name?

SPEAKER_06 1:39:55

Yeah, I got look at it. I took a picture with him.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:58

And I took a picture with the four. I said, Andy, I ain't taking pictures with the book.

SPEAKER_06 1:40:00

Well, he had ninth grade. He was playing up, bro. We was in Dallas, bro. I'm gonna see y'all his name, bro. I already know he top five in his grade. I already know that.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:08

You don't know that. I know that. Can I see him play? I know that. Listen, listen. With your eyes, you have seen top, okay. What is he on paper? Because you know that's his politics. Him, he might not be on paper. That's what I'm saying. It's politics. But I'm gonna check and see. But I know what my eyes told me. That's what I'm saying. So when you said top five, yes, we we can see here and all agree you top five. But when you look on paper, they gonna be like, ah, well, we don't know. And it's like, man, stop with that. Oh boy, this boy right here was this boy here was five both. Because bro, they they give kids the benefit of the doubt. Even with the high school stuff. Man, if you go to Martin Virginia, you average eight, nine points. They gonna, they're gonna be that up like he wanted to talk big.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:54

I just told AJ that today. And I'd be like, come on, dog. AJ just sent me something today, like this kid, I'm like, uh, I watched him play. I don't see them stars. Maybe, maybe my eyes done deceived me, but I don't see them.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:06

Then I have to listen to his.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:08

So the so do you gotta have to connect on the rankings?

SPEAKER_04 1:41:11

Yeah. You better? You got all you got you got to be at one of their schools. One of their favorite schools. Hell man, ESPN ain't updated junior shit since ninth grade. You said that last, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:23

How do you get on there? I know Nike running it. I know Nike.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:28

You look up, he on, he makes all state on sports on sports illustrated. He all on the other ranking sites. Always, everywhere you look, his info is correct, except ESPN. Like what, what? I'm trying to think what I did to ESPN. What did he do to ESPN? I watch Sports Center. Every morning, I go. Every night before you go to bed. Bro, listen, listen. I pay my what, however much it is for the sports center out and y'all gonna update my baby star. Come on, dawg. Ray man, it's it's crazy, bro. ESPN, that's a bill. Y'all a bill to be every month. I pay y'all faithfully for that app. Come on, dawg.

SPEAKER_06 1:42:13

Yeah, so it's gonna be a different. I think y'all might need in the five stuff. Who?

SPEAKER_04 1:42:18

I think so.

SPEAKER_06 1:42:19

Y'all might need in the five stuff.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:21

I don't know if it's gonna be so I think the size equal though. Nah, Ray, you might got the hardest draw. No, I don't. Who you got? Creed, y'all, who else?

SPEAKER_03 1:42:30

I ain't got Kree.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:32

Yes, y'all do. That's why y'all play, remember? No, we just Yes, right, that's why we playing. I was gonna say they ain't on my side. Yeah. So who you said? You got this Cree? You don't got New Smyrna, do you? They not on that side. I got I got they on my side. I got it. It's New Smyrna, Pine Ridge, Mainland, uh, what Bud Taylor?

SPEAKER_01 1:42:57

Oh, Taylor.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:59

And I think I got Deland or D-Land. How you say, is it the land or D-Land?

SPEAKER_06 1:43:03

D-Land. Well, it used to be D-Land, but it's the land now.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:06

Whatever.

SPEAKER_06 1:43:07

If I got over there, it'd be D-land.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:10

Yeah. So, Coach, we got hold on, where are we at? I just seen. You better make sure you win. I don't care who you got. Yeah, you gotta win, cuz I gotta win, I gotta get a coat out that portal call.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:25

So he's talking about me, Coach. Listen, I'm just trying to win one game, man, at a time. That's all I'm gonna do.

SPEAKER_06 1:43:31

Who are all those? Just y'all in Creek.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:34

Coach, you know, I don't even see Creek. Coach, he never beat Holland, no?

SPEAKER_06 1:43:39

That's a fact. Yeah. That's a fact. I don't think, Coach, you gotta forgot, man. General manager been over there five years putting all that together now. You gotta go in there beat to win that game now. So coach is gonna be all yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:52

This is the this the one I you a double agent though, dog. I I I heard about you. Hey, that bitch is a double agent, Coach. I heard about you, dog. Coach I put coach, I put it, let me see. Here's the outside.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:05

Our side in our side in Atlantic, SPC, Creek, and Del Tona. Oh shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:16

Oh shit, you had the trap house a little bit, Coach. Got LPC. I seen them at the summer team. They looked straight.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:23

Yeah, they add Troy. They play hard, though. Well, they play hard is he he he got them playing hard though. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:30

They looked this great in that summer league. Well, you saw what we did to them in the five-star last year at their place. Don't play with me. You think they was better? That they was better last year? Cole, they be yeah, they had Nate and the other dudes. Them dudes can play.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:42

Nah, but usually look back on it, though, that boy shot a lot of balls, bro. He was playing. Oh, they're gonna be young.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:46

No, no, no, they gonna be young. And you know they got Kay Manley's little brother too, who can who can play too. Yeah, he's gonna start.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:57

He good like that? Hey, never seen that. Yeah, he can play coach. Why can't you go there? Coach, oh boy, coach, old boy. He played with Joe and them on a Thursday at Mainland. Tuesday, he was with FPC. Coach is wild. Wow, these people crazy, man. Well, it's a long way till November, boy. Any of my young fellas, please. If if if if any of these coaches call y'all, send me the text. Because I'm ready to bang, I'm ready to bang somebody anyway. Starting tomorrow, man, I'm finna start recruiting, bro. Hey, hey, uh, hey, I hear, I'm ready to bang somebody anyway, so. I know that's right. If if any of them call y'all, shoot me the text.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:39

I'm finna start recruiting starting tomorrow.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:43

Too late, bro. What'd you say you late, Coach? Too late. I ain't got no sport today started. Nah, I'll let them slide this thing, man. I'm just gonna grind my little girls up.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:55

We're gonna we're gonna play as hard as we can and hopefully we can win some game, bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:59

We all see how it goes, man. Listen, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:03

Y'all, y'all ain't gonna win now. You over there talking about you hope, hope, hope, man. You gotta you gotta bring confidence. Who me? No, I'm talking at AJ. Oh, no. Because this is what I do, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:15

You know I do. Coach. Coach, I've been talking about it. We're going to UNF. I don't know how we're gonna get there, but we're gonna.

SPEAKER_06 1:46:21

This is how I trick. I'm tricking them, Coach. We going to UNF. They really, the last couple days really got me thinking they think it's gonna be really sweet like that.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:31

And it's not gonna be sweet like that. I promise you that. I'm tripping on like when y'all was talking and you was and you had to talk to the girls. How y'all feel? Everybody thinks we ass. Coach what the girl said. Yeah, I'm like, because y'all was they know that, Cup.

SPEAKER_06 1:46:49

They know that. I don't, well, coach, listen. Coach, listen, like me and Ray say all the time, the coach is the culture. They're not as bad as I thought they was gonna be.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:59

Now, he was definitely surprised. I was surprised, Coach. Now, so when I was surprised, I was like, oh, I'm gonna tell you, I'm finna, I'm, hey, I'm finna, I'm finna give you some OG advice. I'm finna give you some OG advice. Right? Because I, my dumb behind, I did this one year. And that's how me and Ray became good friends.

SPEAKER_07 1:47:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:24

When you looking at them play against each other. Don't let that fool you, boy. But that's why I put them in the summer league. Oh, still.

SPEAKER_06 1:47:32

They never did it before.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:34

Okay, okay, all right.

SPEAKER_06 1:47:35

They never played in the summer league before, though.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:38

Man, me and uh me and Lockhart was talking. Lockhart said, I'm gonna give you the breakdown, everybody you got. All right, I get the breakdown. I'm like, all right, I got you. So I meet with the kids. We have our first open gym. And you know, everybody, all the kids, they blaming Lockhart for all the losses and all that. Like they do. That'd be like they do. They do. I said, all right, I said, well, he's gone now, so we get, we gonna get it out the mud, and I'm gonna see. Man, I got guys in the gym. I'm like, man, Lockhart was tripping. It was good. Woo! Man, we drove up. I take my butt over there to Calvary.

SPEAKER_03 1:48:15

And he's cutting my sub league. Yeah. So they out there, the new one Tanzans, out there throwing up the arrows in the stands. They beat us in the summer. We walk in a handshake. Like I said, when I come up, when we play out of the season, bro, you're not gonna score and we're gonna and we're gonna drill y'all. Coach, we playing hit, coach. I'm drilling them. This joker ain't calling a timeout. He said, Coach, he said they was talking junk. I wanted them to see. And and like, I said, dude, you're not gonna call a timeout? Because we was up 20 seconds. I said, don't say.

SPEAKER_06 1:48:44

He didn't call that timeout.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:45

Oh, that junk was too funny, Coach. Because I say, bro, I'm looking at time, and I said, uh, the reason I'm gonna tell you, one player is the reason why I didn't call a timeout. Oh, that junk was funny. Cause he talking crazy, he's talking trash too. He's talking trash to Ray during the summer league, man. Yeah. And I'm in my mind, I'm like, we beat them, but I'm like, we ain't. I'm I'm watching us play, and I'm like, damn, we ain't we not as good as I thought we were. Yeah. Yeah. Because I get to see the play. Then I'm listening to Ty talk trash to Ray, and you know, Ray kind of like sparing them a little bit. I just shake my head. So at first, Ray, like, hold on, coach, y'all not like that. And he ain't. I said, no, that's why I'm shaking my head. I said, I'm not disagreeing with nothing. You said, I said, I'm shaking my head because he loses it. Yeah. So Ray looking at me like, huh? He started loud. I said, Coach, I'm a realist. Yeah. I say, we beat y'all, I say, but we ain't that good.

SPEAKER_03 1:49:42

Because they was selling out too, Coach.

SPEAKER_06 1:49:45

I know how them cavalry's getting us a call. We know hard enough.

SPEAKER_03 1:49:48

He's talking about my guy.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:49

So first of all, we played crazy. Listen, so I had Junior was in sixth grade at the time.

SPEAKER_03 1:49:57

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:57

So I had Junior playing with my JV team. And they won, they won a game. And I think I think they beat um, they, matter of fact, they beat Creek. I think it was Creek, yeah. So when my Varsity played Creek Varsity, one of the freshmen, one of the freshmen of some scope in the game. So the JV kids, they're going crazy. Like, ah, these uh freshmen. I turned around and say, but y'all lost to my, y'all lost to my eighth, to my sixth grader. They look around like, oh, it's a sixth grade. I point, they say, the big one? I say, yeah. Hey, they whole varsity to say, one of the dudes on the voice to say, Y'all lost to a sixth grader. It's crazy out here, man. It is. But nah, I was gonna tell you, like, dog, don't, don't fall for the food go. But y'all already played, so you good. You know what you got. Yeah, I know what I got. Nah, that's why I'm gonna trick them though, bro. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:50:50

Ray, man, we got it, we got it, we gotta get on that portal, man. I gotta drop some news on the port on the thing tomorrow, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:50:54

And let me know, man. Let me know who you got, dog. I ain't, hey man, I told you, nobody, I don't know. People, people, people think I'm mean or something. I don't know what they got going on.

SPEAKER_06 1:51:04

All right, Cole. Let me get in. I'm gonna get ready to go to bed, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:51:06

All right, man. I appreciate y'all, man.

SPEAKER_06 1:51:08

All right, so yeah.