Episode 12: Milo Myles | Mic Check with Nikita

Join Nikita in the studio with Milo Myles! Nikita and Milo talk about his journey as a DJ, how NYC nightlife DJ culture has changed after COVID, branding Milo Fete, & what’s he’s been through personally in the past few month along with how mental health has been/can be affected in this industry

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Transcript

SPEAKER_07 0:00

Welcome to My Check with Nikita. I'm your host, Nikita Gyrum, and today we have Milo Miles.

SPEAKER_02 0:05

Yeah, what's up, guys?

SPEAKER_07 0:06

Tell me about yourself. How'd you actually get into DJing? Because I think that's the big thing that I want to talk about too.

SPEAKER_02 0:11

Yeah, I mean, um, so my dad was a DJ. So ever since I knew myself, I was always surrounded by music, right? Um, literally growing up. Like I got those VHS films with like jumping around on my dad's back while you know he's playing music and stuff, and literally you could see the progression throughout the years of like him taking a step back and letting me um do what I gotta do, you know. And um, so it was always there, you know. It it it was just a matter of time. Yeah, you know, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 0:40

So he he basically taught you like the full craft on like how to look mags and all that stuff.

SPEAKER_02 0:44

A hundred percent, yeah. Wow. Um, I mean, this is years ago, and I definitely think that I kind of you know took the crown from him a little bit, but but yeah, you know, that's really how it went. Um, he showed me the ropes.

SPEAKER_07 0:58

When did you actually start like getting booked for gigs? What age, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 1:04

So I had um it used to have like these temple fundraisers. So my dad would do it, and then eventually I started doing it. Um and so, you know, that was I was early age, man. I was like eight, nine, ten. And then it turned into a thing my first, my very first paid gig. Shout out to Ian from from Zen Lounge, uh also Mancho Lounge. Um Ian was the first person that booked me officially.

SPEAKER_03 1:32

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_02 1:33

I mean, mind you, it was like, you know, it w it really wasn't no big money, and then I got a free meal out of it. Okay, but um Ian really was the first person that booked me like officially, that gave me, hey, listen, show up at this time, um, play from this time to this time, this is what your pay is gonna be. And you know, I was 14.

SPEAKER_07 1:54

Wow. And now you're working with him still now. And now, yeah, full circle.

SPEAKER_02 1:57

I'm still working with him. Yep.

SPEAKER_07 1:59

It's insane.

SPEAKER_02 2:00

Yep.

SPEAKER_07 2:00

Um, I guess, like, so when you were booked from by Ian, that was at Mantra or was that like just No, that was at Flamingo.

SPEAKER_02 2:08

Really? On Leffords, yep. All those years ago. I don't you remember that spot. I know you remember that spot. Yeah, that was that was that was a spot. Um, they had one over there and they had one on um, I think like 105 in Rockaway or something like that. Man, that was the best food you could have got back in the day. Oh man.

SPEAKER_07 2:25

And then the flamingo name still lives on because you know, it's on it's still on Rockaway. It's still on Rockaway.

SPEAKER_02 2:30

It's still on Rockaway.

SPEAKER_07 2:31

It's a different location. No, um okay, NYC Nightlife. I think we could go into this a little bit, right? You've obviously been doing this since you were clearly 14 years old, right? The changes, I guess. I want to talk about like big changes that you've seen throughout the decades because I feel like every decade has their own like specific nuance change, right? Um, but specifically for us millennials, Gen Zm prior to COVID versus after COVID.

SPEAKER_02 3:00

Oh man, this is insane to me because like the change is so dramatic. Yeah. When I say so dramatic, it's like it's completely different. I don't think anything is the same. I I really don't think anything is the same when it comes to before COVID and after COVID. And it's not necessarily a bad thing, yeah. Right? It it's just it's different than what we knew. So our generation who used to party before COVID, probably look at this new generation and go, Well, I don't really want to go out to that.

SPEAKER_05 3:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:34

So there's such a split and such a divide. Um, and you know, I know we're gonna talk about some of my events and stuff like that later, but that's ultimately the gap that I'm trying to bridge, right? Because this whole generation post-COVID, um, they have their own style of partying and their own style of everything. And um there's n absolutely no connection. The people who used to party in our days, they don't want to go to the club because that whole post-carniv uh post-COVID generation is out now.

SPEAKER_03 4:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:03

You know, they don't want to go to that, they want to do other things. And um, and the new generation, they they are okay with the clubs and they are okay with the sections and the you know the way how they party.

SPEAKER_07 4:13

You know, the one thing that I did notice, um, and I I remember this was nowadays, if you want to book a stand-up table, right, you don't necessarily have to have a bottle package before COVID, you had to it was a two-bottle minimum. Yeah. Always. You can just get a section or like not even a section, just a regular stand-up table without a bottle package. You had to have a bottle. Now you can just grab a few drinks at the bar and just kind of stand there with your hookah and chill. And it made me realize that, like, and maybe it's because we could talk about like so many different things in terms of like money, you know, the way money is valued is a little bit different and like cost-effective living and whatever, whatever. But like nowadays people are buying drinks rather than bottles. And it's kind of insane to me because I remember just like it. We us as women, we would get all dressed up, the boys would be like, We got the table, we're good. Now we have to go to the club and be like, is there a table available? Because there's just random people standing there with no, with just like nothing.

SPEAKER_06 5:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 5:19

Um okay, so in terms of NYC nightlife, right, right now, and I know you're gonna be a little bit biased when I ask you this question, but um in Queens, what's your go-to spot?

SPEAKER_02 5:36

In Queens, I would have to say Zen. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 5:40

Why? And I already know the answer, but why?

SPEAKER_02 5:42

I mean, outside of the fact that I play there, I think that the I think what they did with the um atmosphere of Zen is literally they brought back what we remember.

SPEAKER_05 5:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:54

Right? They brought back what we remember and they still modernized it at the same time, right? So it's it's it's comfortable, it's upscale, and I don't know, man. It just has that that element to it, you know. Um now granted, there's a lot of other nice spots. I'm not taking away from any any other spots, right? Um, there's a lot of other nice spots. Um but that's you know, that's that's my favorite spot.

SPEAKER_07 6:19

So I knew you were gonna kind of say that, and I say that because as millennials, right? Like we used to, I remember like dressing up and going to the club, right? Meaning like I'd always be in a dress in heels, guys would have to wear a button down. Like the dress code makes me feel like elevated at Zen.

SPEAKER_02 6:38

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_07 6:39

Everywhere else is kind of a little bit more relaxed, casual, but it's like it's our like feel of how what we grew up on, basically, right? So that's why I wanted to ask you that question because I was like, are we gonna vibe on this list or not? Okay, so I know we went a little a little bit into NYC nightlife, but I do want to go back to DJing a little bit, right? And I say that in the sense of um, you've been doing this for a really long time, you've had different experiences, you've performed all over the world, Queens, Brooklyn, but in terms of the actual craft, right? What's your go-to genre?

SPEAKER_02 7:15

Of course, so hands down. I mean, that that there's no question about that. Um I want to tell I want to tell you something, right? When you used to go out to party, when we used to go out to party, I should say, right? Um I came from Brooklyn, right? And in Brooklyn, the Caribbean scene, unless you was in the Jamaican scene, the Caribbean scene in Brooklyn was Soka. The Caribbean scene in Queens, before I came onto the scene like that, um, and when I say the scene, I mean like the mochas and the um the maracas, you know, those places. The scene back then really was dance hall. Yeah, right? It was a lot of reggae, it was a lot of dance hall, and that primarily came because of DJ Zack. DJ Zack was probably the most influential DJ in Queens for a very long time.

SPEAKER_07 8:04

Yeah, I miss him. He needs to come back to New York.

SPEAKER_02 8:06

He does. Um, you know, Zach really put that stamp on Queens, like, yo, look, anytime there was no event that could happen in Queens without booking DJ Zach. Yeah. Period. Right? Um, then when I came on the scene, it became a shift where it was like, oh well, Milo's gonna come on and we already know he's gonna play soccer. You know what I'm saying? And it was great because they knew when Zach goes on, he's gonna play dance hall. When Milo goes on, he's gonna play soca. But we came with that energy because he's also from Brooklyn too. We came with that Brooklyn energy. We came with there's honestly the best DJs are born and bred in Brooklyn. Yeah. Period. I don't care what anybody says. The best DJs are born and bred in Brooklyn. Um and we really came on the scene and we was like those guys, and we we shifted, we shifted the um the the energy where it was like, yeah, well Soka and Dance Hall has to play, you know? Um and that's yeah, that's really where we are.

SPEAKER_07 9:03

Versus I I'm gonna keep I'm using COVID as like a stamp mark, right, in terms of time. But the one thing that I did notice that's different between DJing before COVID and DJing now, like you just said, Zach would come on and play dance hall, you would come on and play soca. There was always like you'd know if there was like a primetime DJ coming on because the primetime DJ would probably play mostly Ahsoka. It's where and it would go hand in hand with like a Ahsoka and a dancehall DJ, right? Nowadays, and I'm gonna specifically call this out because as a millennial, I have a love-hate relationship with it. There's DJs that'll go on and play an Indian song, then a Chinese song, then Ahsoka song, then a dancehall song, and then mix it back, and they do the same, the four genres all together. Whereas po prior to COVID, they would be like segments, segments, and you'd kind of know the opening DJ would play like RB, the you know, that type of stuff. Then the DJ from like 12 to 1 would kind of do like the slower Ahsoka a little bit, kind of get the crowd up, and then that one to three spot was just like soca and dance hall completely, and like not just like slow soca, but like the fast ones, the one that we would actually want to dance to.

SPEAKER_02 10:17

Nowadays we're all just kind of like confused, confused. I think confused is a better word, yeah. Literally, confused because and again, it all comes back to COVID, and what's crazier to me is the fact that it's normal now. Yeah, it's it's normalized now. I say this because um the the what's the word I'm looking for? The way how we built parties back in the day. I'm talking about built the energy and built the the the the vibe from conception all the way down to the end of the party, right? The way how we how DJs used to build the party and build it up, there is none no more of that. There's like there's none, right? There's nobody builds the party anymore. Um, and it's become normal to not build a party anymore, right? And that's what we pride ourselves at you know at MiloFet so strongly on. Like we want to keep it back to the roots, right? Um, but then again, I mean it's a little bit different too because we technically don't have a warm-up in our parties, but that's a whole different conversation. Um, but yeah, you know, that that idea of warming up a party is is gone now.

SPEAKER_07 11:26

Yeah, there used to be like you kind of just knew if you're walking into the club before 12 o'clock, you're just kind of chill a little bit, have your drink, yeah. Then one to three would be like full on party zone. Nowadays, people don't even dance anymore as much. Um, and then everybody just kind of knew three o'clock in the morning Indian music.

SPEAKER_02 11:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 11:44

Like everybody's drunk by that point. We're twisting up our hands to Indian music, and then by like 3:30, 340-ish, the lights would come up and everybody would go home. Yeah. Now parties are ending at four o'clock on the dot, and then lights are coming up after. And we don't know like what we're like what we're really doing. And I say that as someone who still goes out here, they're like, guys, I miss the old version.

unknown 12:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 12:10

I do, I do. I'm tired of hearing Indian Chutney dance Osaka or like whatever that makes us back to back to back.

SPEAKER_02 12:17

Yeah, the the um the the the way how music's played now is is completely different. And that's because of the new wave of generation, right? The new generation of DJs. They never really grew up in the clubs. Uh I shouldn't say they never really grew up in the clubs. That four-year period that we did not have clubs, or three-year period, or whatever it was where you know it was a little shaky, like I don't know if I want to go out. That period of time, um crafted DJs that don't understand the the idea of um nightlife before. Yeah, right. And it's fine, they have their own idea and it's become a new standard, right? Um I think at the end of the day, we the reality is that we as the DJs just need to try our best to make sure that we do uh or play what the patrons want. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's like going with the flow at the end of the day. That's really what it is at the end of the day, right? Um, there's a lot of people that don't know about the era that we came from, right? So they're not gonna know what what you were just talking about, you know. So it's okay. At the end of the day, like I said, we just have to play for the people and make sure that they're happy at, you know, for that little three hours that they're at the club.

SPEAKER_07 13:24

So the one thing I do want to bring up, and for those, everyone who's watching, Milo told me I could bring up anything at this point. He's gonna talk about anything. So um a few weeks ago, you played at Zen.

SPEAKER_02 13:37

Uh-huh. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_07 13:38

You know what I'm about to bring up.

SPEAKER_02 13:40

Yep, yep.

SPEAKER_07 13:40

Um, and there was someone who like, we don't have to name who the person is, but like they were kind of trashing you on social media because you weren't playing chucking chucking music.

SPEAKER_02 13:50

Cursing me out, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 13:52

Um like I I guess is that was my my question, really, is like I guess that situation, right? You were playing dance hall, if I'm not wrong, right?

SPEAKER_03 14:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 14:05

And it I think you were playing more so on the vibe that us like millennials grew up on, right? So when it comes to like something like that, like how does that work? And if you want to give a little background on the situation, you can. But um in in in that sense, like, because you did call out that person, right? And so I want to know what was the headspace? What was thinking about that?

SPEAKER_02 14:24

So I anybody who knows me, or actually anybody who even follows me knows that like I do not I I I try to stay away from the drama, yeah, completely. I wouldn't post anything that's crazy. But I was like, you know what? I have time. It was a Sunday. I was I was sitting in my bed, I was I wasn't really doing much. I was like, yeah, let me let me touch on this real quick because it I felt passionate about it, right? Yeah, you can't tell me that you want to come up and tell me that, oh, well, you shouldn't play this, you should play something else when what I'm playing has the whole club going. Why are you gonna tell me to change the music because you want to hear it? Everybody else in the club is okay with what I'm playing, they're happy, they're dancing, they're great with it. You know what I'm saying? They're vibing. So why is it you are you the only person in the club? No, you're clearly not. There's you know, 400 other people in here and they all enjoy the music, so maybe they're not the problem, maybe I'm not the problem, maybe you're the problem. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Um, yeah, she was just like she wanted Chutney music, and I have no absolutely no problems playing Chutney music. I love Chutney music, you know. Contrary to what everybody thinks, that oh, I don't like Indian and Chutney music, it's not something.

SPEAKER_07 15:40

It's the culture at the end of the day, right?

SPEAKER_02 15:41

I mean, you know what I'm saying? Like, like I, you know, I didn't really grow up on it the way how other people did, but I have like I I like it. I enjoy it. The reason why I enjoy it is because I know I know how much other people enjoy it.

SPEAKER_05 15:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:55

And I'm a type of person, and I think this is what makes what I think to be a good DJ is um I enjoy to see other people enjoying themselves.

SPEAKER_07 16:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:05

I really like I really genuinely enjoy that.

SPEAKER_07 16:07

Well that what that's what DJ, any performer, DJ, artist, like that's the whole vibe, like or the whole goal at the end of the day, right? You want the audience or people that are there to like you can't just you can't just DJ and like have everybody standing there because then it's like this what's the point of playing music?

SPEAKER_02 16:25

Absolutely. I feel like yeah, I'm a giver. Yeah, but yeah, I mean, yo, like I I like I love to see people just enjoy themselves. Yeah, and you know, that's the whole reason why I even started doing parties too. Yeah, you know, like I like having I like knowing in the back of my head that people came out and whatever problems that they had going on in their life, like they came to this party, they relieved all their stress, they was free for you know three, four hours. Yeah, they was free, they just enjoy themselves. So going back to what we were talking about, if I can make the majority, right? Because you're never gonna be able to please everybody, if I can make 90%, even 80% of the of the crowd enjoy themselves on that level, then I'm gonna do that, even if that means I gotta piss off a 10%. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_07 17:11

So speaking of this now, and now now that uh this is a little bit of a topic, let's go into branding, right? I I want to really talk about the fact that Milo Fett, Stoker Rain, all of those events that you've started to do or you've been doing for the past few years and things like that. Um, what I really want to go into first before we go into the actual branding is you are a DJ who's was born I guess started in Brooklyn and performed like I guess playing in Queens, right? Um, all over the world. You kind of are that bridge between the Indo-Caribbeans and then the rest of the Caribbeans right now, right? Of course, right?

SPEAKER_02 17:49

It's been that way for years, exactly, right?

SPEAKER_07 17:52

So that being said, I want to go into the differences between the nuances and and the and both the as like the geographical, I guess, right spacing, just because it there is a different culture on each side.

SPEAKER_02 18:03

The actual term would be Afro and Indo-Caribbean. And Indo-Cariban.

SPEAKER_07 18:07

Exactly, right? So let's talk about that a little bit, right? Um, you technically are Indo-Caribbean?

SPEAKER_02 18:13

Yeah, yeah, yeah, right? I'm I'm believe it or not, I'm the only full bred Indian in my entire family.

SPEAKER_04 18:19

Really?

SPEAKER_02 18:20

Yeah, my grandfather's from Grenada. Um shit. And yeah, I'm the only full-bred, I'm the only cousin in my entire family that's full hundred percent Indian.

SPEAKER_07 18:30

So let's talk about the differences between the parties, right? I really want to talk about that for a second. An Indo-Caribbean party in Queens versus an Indo uh an Afro-Caribbean party in Brooklyn, right? Why can't we bring them together?

SPEAKER_02 18:44

Oh, plenty of people have been trying to do that.

SPEAKER_07 18:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:47

Um, including myself.

unknown 18:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:49

And I think we do a good job um along with countless promoters. I could count a good few promoters that actually do it and pull it off very well.

SPEAKER_07 18:59

Yeah. Sorry, so I should change that sent that question. Why can't we do it as often rather aside from those like fets that come up?

SPEAKER_02 19:08

Right. Um, that's a good question.

SPEAKER_07 19:12

Because like, let's we we could talk about like soaker brainwash, we could talk about Milo Fett, right? Like those are spaces, veil vibe, right? Those are all spaces where like all of the Caribbean comes in. Yep. Right? There is no differentiation between Indo-Caribbean, Afro-Caribbean. It's all of us together, right? So on a regular night, like why is it so different for like someone to go to a Zen or a KISS versus someplace in like Brooklyn, I guess? Or or I don't even want to say like Brooklyn, but like in general, right? Like if you go to a Zen, if you go to a KISS, the crowds are so different.

SPEAKER_02 19:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 19:47

Right? So why is that something that we can't make as a regular theme?

SPEAKER_02 19:51

Can I be very honest with you? Yeah. Is racism. Okay. That's just that's just the reality.

SPEAKER_07 19:56

I mean, I I know that I know that that was the answer, but damn it.

SPEAKER_02 19:59

That's a hundred like I'm I'm a hundred percent just gonna be real about it. You know, like that's really what it comes down to. Um, I know an enormous amount of Indian people that don't want to go out and party with black people, and I know another enormous amount of black people that don't want to go and party with Indian people.

SPEAKER_04 20:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:16

That's just the reality of the situation, and it's sad, but that's the reality of the situation.

SPEAKER_06 20:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:22

Um, now, aside from those um, you know, closed-minded people, there are a lot of um, there are a lot of parties that include incorporate all different kinds of people, all different kinds of Caribbean people, I should say, right? Um And that's essentially what we trying to be on. You know, we're trying to be on this time and where it's like everybody is is one. You know, that was uh a part of the original motto um of MiloFed, it was um freedom, so cut, and good vibes. That was the original motto. And then underneath that we said that um there is no shaming of anything, yeah, of anybody in any in any form. You know what I'm saying? That's something that we prided ourselves on because you know, we want we just want people to be free. Yeah you know what I mean? Like that's really what it is. Like we just want people to be free. We don't want people to be looking at I mean it really it really comes from my own personal experience as well. Because I grew up in a family that's so multicolored. I'm talking about we have white, Chinese, Spanish, Indian, black, we have everybody in my family. Yeah, there was not a single Thanksgiving that you did not come inside one of our houses and see everybody across the world. And they these are family, like whether they were married or blood or what, it was it this is our family. Yeah, and this is what I grew up on.

SPEAKER_07 21:44

In terms of branding, right? We can just go back into branding a little bit more. But in terms of branding, MiloFet, like in general, all of the events that you're doing, what sparked the idea? Because I really want To go into inception, right? You were doing this for a really long time, but you tend you I think you started this COVID or prior to COVID? Way before COVID. What made you do it in your 20s? Early 30s?

SPEAKER_02 22:12

Yeah, yeah, 20s. 20s. I'm listening I'm I'm 21, all right. I don't know. In my 20s, what I did was I started traveling, and um in my 20s, I started traveling, like I started traveling a lot. I'm talking about I started going to I started hitting all these carnivals that like I never thought I would be seeing before. Yeah. Outside of Trinidad. Like I always went to Trinidad for carnival, but like then I started seeing um Cayman, Bahamas, Bermuda, um, you know, uh Barbados, like all these different islands. Um, you know, I I just went to Portugal for for their Ahsoka weekend, you know what I'm saying? Like seeing all these different things, it started reminding me that there is so much more that comes to what a real Fed looks like. And it was being, I I felt like there was a void that needed to be filled when it came to how partying should really look, you know, and that's really essentially what Milo Fed came from. It came from the void that I needed, I felt needed to be filled, right? Like we couldn't just go to the club every single weekend, like all the time, you know. Like there needed to be something else, and that's when um Soaker Rain started. It really started, actually. Let me step one step back. It started when I started traveling, I decided to do a pop-up party. So I did a pop-up party and I did it as a cool effect.

SPEAKER_05 23:38

Now, do you remember the name of it?

SPEAKER_02 23:40

It it was just Milo's pop-up. Okay, it was just it was just called Milo's pop-up. Um, I rented a little backyard in Jamaica, in Jamaica, Queens. I remember it. You remember that? I remember it. Yeah, yo, it turned out to be so good. Like it was it was amazing, right? And I was like, wow. And this is a new concept to a lot of people in Queens, right? Because especially, you know, the reality is that back then, um, mind you, it's not too long ago, it's like uh 2017, something like that. Um the reality is Guy's, the Ghanese community didn't really understand what like cool effects and all inclusives and things like that were, right? They were on they were like, okay, level, uh uh, you know, Maracas, this other place, that place, you know what I'm saying? And then of course the weddings and stuff like that. Like they had, they was, you know, but that's fine, right? So I tried to do something new, and then I was like, you know what? Let's blow it up. Let's blow it up as big as we can. Let's do it the way how they do it in Trinidad. So I decided to do this really elaborate event, Silkarin. Um, this might be new to a lot of people, too, especially those post-COVID uh nightlife partygoers now. But um, so we sold 500 tickets in seven minutes.

SPEAKER_03 24:59

Oh shit.

SPEAKER_02 25:00

We put up 500 tickets, we sold 500 tickets in seven minutes, and then I got greedy. Then I was like, you know what? Let's just do it as big as we possibly can. I got rid of the venue that I originally had. I rented another venue, and then I was like, we're gonna do 1,500 people. I put up more tickets, we ended up selling like I think it was like 1,200 tickets or something like that. And then um did the event. Uh, about an hour after the event started going on, I got a call from the the captain at the precinct. He's like, you do know that the city shut all events down, right? I was like, listen, I have 300 people in here already. There's probably another, you know, thousand on the way. Um, like I like what am I supposed to do now? Like I have, you know, I spent $20,000 in production setting everything up. Like, I I can't break this stuff down now. And he was like, well, see how long you're gonna get it, you know, get get get the event to go for. So we did it. It lasted about like three hours. After like the third hour, there was like four people that passed out because it was a heat wave. Um, we tried everything that we could, you know. We we had like the misters, I I had I had an ambulance come to stay on site. Um, I paid for EMS to be inside the party as well. You know, I tried to cover my ends as much as I could, but it was just way too hot.

SPEAKER_06 26:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:26

Yeah. Once once people started passing out left and right, they the city was just like, no, you have you have to shut it down. So we shut it down. Now you have you know a thousand people at that time that's in the lot, and there's probably like still more people that's on the way, but you have a thousand people in a lot. Um I called, I called Mike from uh Maze, actually, I it was Mocha back then, and I asked him, I was like, yo, can can I bring the party over there by you? He's like, sure, no problem. And then I, you know, in the heat of the of everything, I completely forgot that people had their coolers. So now you have a thousand people with coolers with alcohol trying to go into a club. That turned into uh complete chaos because obviously that you know you can't do that with SLA and the legality of it, you know. Um in general, cooler fets are just illegal. Yeah, that's the reality of that. Um but yeah, you know, we had the the police helicopters come out and everything, it was just complete chaos. And man, I thought I thought that was it. I like that was that was such a uh pivotal moment in my life that I realized one, how much power I actually had, and then also two um how how I need to be responsible with it because I just created a a chaotic scenario.

SPEAKER_07 27:46

Yeah. Power, right? I think there's a lot of us that have that power, and we don't realize it until you actually do something like that, and then it's like, wait, should I have all I actually have all of this power?

SPEAKER_02 28:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 28:03

Um, okay, so and then obviously COVID happened, right? And then Sokarin continued after COVID, right? I think it was one of the few only frets that were really happening at that point in time. Um in terms of like now, it's been a few few years, two years since you've done like another fret aside from the ones coming up.

SPEAKER_02 28:24

Sokarin. So I um I folded up Sokarin. Yeah. The year that I filed for divorce, I folded Silcarane. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 28:32

Oh, okay. Uh so now that he brought up his divorce. Uh yeah. Do you want to talk about that a little bit?

SPEAKER_02 28:43

Yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_07 28:44

I mean Since nothing's off the table, guys.

SPEAKER_02 28:46

Let's let's nothing, absolutely nothing's on off the table.

SPEAKER_07 28:50

So I will just be very honest and say I don't know how to approach it. So um I think I want to follow your lead in terms of how do you want to talk about your divorce, right? Um, I personally do want to be very cognizant of the fact that you have a family, you have kids, right? Um so at the end of the day, having this conversation about your divorce, we just need to realize that, like, you know, you have your family, right? Um, I wanna ride the fine line of letting people know what you want to say at the same time of letting people know, like, guys, it's none of your fucking business.

SPEAKER_00 29:28

Pretty much.

SPEAKER_07 29:30

Um and he has kids. So again, mind your business because all his like when their kids his kids are grown up, they're gonna see all of these things, right? So, I mean, I guess how do you want to go about it? What do you want to say about your divorce and everything that's happening? Because uh your personal life is something that is surrounding everything else that you're doing, yeah, right. And it shouldn't be bigger than what's coming up for you in terms of your events and and fiore and all of that stuff. But I think like we're reaching a point where it's kind of overshadowing a little bit, and I we want to just yeah, talk about it.

SPEAKER_02 30:09

Well, I want to make one thing very, very clear, right? And I'm actually gonna look into the camera for this one. I want to make one thing extremely clear. Um I'm at this point in my life right now where a weight has been lifted off, and there is absolutely nothing that's gonna stop me from being great, and that's that's the reality of it. Right? Um I think that we were talking about power just now, and me slowly realizing the power that I had. And I think that even in that moment I didn't understand the power that I really had. I think it took me getting married, building a family, and filing for divorce. That really stopped me and and shook me and said, yo, you you you know what you have to do. Go and do it. You know what I mean? Um I feel like I kinda because of this divorce that I filed for, I feel like it's giving me a second chance at going for what uh going back on the path that I was supposed to be on, right? Life is always gonna have its hurdles and its speed bumps, and this literally was just that. I got a beautiful gift, I got two beautiful gifts from it, you know. My kids are my everything. Um what I hate in this scenario is the fact that since the divorce started getting messy on Instagram, um, I stopped posting my kids because I want my Instagram to be my brand, and that's it. And I feel like some people think that, oh well, he doesn't post his kids anymore, he doesn't do anything with them. But if you go through my phone right now, my camera role has never changed. My camera role is always gonna have things with me and my kids in it. Um and it's also gonna have a lot of pictures and videos of me taking shots, but it's also gonna have my kids in it too. You know what I mean? Um and this is I think is the biggest issue with Indo-Caribbean communities. They're so involved in your business and they think they know your life better than you do. How is that possible? So because I don't post my kids anymore means that I don't I don't do anything with them. I'm a bad father now. You know, it's a little it's a little scary to think that people can draw these assumptions. And when we talk about assumptions, we could talk about the whole other set of assumptions that the rumors that's been spreading from from 10 years back going up to today, especially today, because you know, people always can post whatever they want to post, you know. Um But I think going back to the actual question in terms of the divorce, um the generation that we grew up in, or our generation, that's to say not that we grew up in, our generation is gonna be the first generation to show the world that just because our parents came from Guyana and Trinidad and Suriname and this place and that place, um they may have a certain way of living, but we also have one too. Being first generation American um, you know, people, like we're gonna have a different outlook. And I'm pretty sure my parents, her parents, everybody's parents, you know, everybody who came from that that um you know, from the islands or or whatever, they probably like, oh well, it's bad, you can shouldn't get divorced, you know, marriage is forever, you make this oath under God and all this other. Yeah, but um I don't want to be 50 and then look back and be and be like, holy shit, I just lived the whole my whole entire life miserable.

SPEAKER_06 34:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:08

You know? And that's really what I wanted. I I think that in order for us to be good for our children, we need to be good for ourselves. Right? And it it takes a lot to have to say, wow, I'm I'm gonna have to step back and and lose everything that I built and start over from scratch, but I'd rather do that and know that I'm putting my kids in a better place.

SPEAKER_07 34:32

Yeah. I think and one of the reasons why I think we both were talking about maybe bringing up the divorce as well was because at the end of the day, like I said earlier, we can't have your personal life overshadowing your professional life.

SPEAKER_03 34:47

Yep.

SPEAKER_07 34:48

Because at the end of the day, they have nothing to do with each other.

SPEAKER_03 34:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 34:51

There are they are also interconnected in some senses. Like if we think about like in professionalism, you can't really have your personal life affecting your professional life, all of those things like that. But at the end of the day, that should not stop the promotion or the branding or just in general, you doing what you gotta do in terms of being a DJ in terms of Milo Fett and all of those things. Right. Because I do feel like in the past, especially few months, there has been a lot of like things on social media servicing whoever is posting it. I'm not pointing any like fingers in terms of that, but like at the end of the day, that should have nothing to do with your professional life.

SPEAKER_02 35:34

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_07 35:35

And that's I think why we wanted to bring this up. So, guys, like he's never actually spoken about this, he's never posted on social media, he's finally doing it here. Yeah, um, and really it's just to say, like, it's none of your business. Like, talk all you want to talk, it doesn't matter. There's been rumors for years for everyone in the in the industry, right? Everyone who's putting their self out there publicly, there's going to be rumors, right? Um, but I think at the end of the day, we can just stay with the statement that you are getting a divorce, you're no longer with your wife, ex-wife, you have kids, he's got a family, guys, and we just leave it at that.

SPEAKER_02 36:11

That's that's really all it is. I never I never went and I never posted anything. Um uh I never posted anything and I don't plan to.

SPEAKER_05 36:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:22

Right? All this is right now is just me talking about myself, right? And I honestly I don't care if it comes off like I'm being self-centered because you know what? I feel like we all should be a little self-centered. Yeah, I feel like we all should put ourselves first, you know what I mean? And um that's all it is. And you know, going back, uh the rumors and shit, it don't bother me anymore. Like it used to really bother me. I used to go around and try to press everybody and yo, like like why why would you say this? And but it's like for what? Yeah, I don't have anything to prove to anybody anymore. Yeah, I'm I'm one, I'm too old for it. I got I got two kids to that that's my priority now. Yeah, that's my main priority. Nothing else. Um trying to prove something to somebody who is not doing anything for me is completely pointless. Yeah, all I want to do now is make sure that I show up for myself, my brand, and my kids.

SPEAKER_05 37:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:21

I'm trying to create a life, I'm trying to create legacy, I'm trying, I'm trying to try, I'm trying to build something. Right? Um I was never okay with me out mediocracy, and I will never be okay with it. And even if that means restarting, and then so be it. Yeah. You know? Um that's that.

SPEAKER_07 37:44

Well, now that we brought up uh your divorce and you know, just nightlife in general, I want to go into like mental health aspect, right? Like relationships and you know, being in nightlife, all of that whole general conversation that we can have. We can go into so many different sections with this. But I know that mental health is a big deal that and it's something that you do want to talk about. So in terms of just like being in nightlife, going through what you're going through with the divorce and then mental health, right? Like, how does that all we all know like the real aspects of the correlation for it, right? But I I I really want to talk about like relationships, and like we talk about DJs are always cheaters, and we talk about like relationships are hard to go like to actually last with a DJ or someone who's out there, especially, right, in the public eye. So how is all this, I guess, like affecting that mental health of yours in that aspect?

SPEAKER_02 38:47

Let me tell you, I feel like I feel like the resilience that you have to have, yeah, um, as somebody in the industry is like one in like a million because like even after Sokar Rain, that Sokarin that that you can say failed, because it really did fail, it didn't go all the way to the end, right? Um that in itself was a huge was a huge uh shake on my mental. Um it started from there, it also starts with your significant other, right? If they if if that person is not there to be able to to ground you, then you know it just adds on and and compounds the problems.

SPEAKER_05 39:30

Yeah, right?

SPEAKER_02 39:30

It compounds the the the stress and the weight of life. Um and I definitely went through some very very bad points.

SPEAKER_05 39:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:42

Extremely, extremely bad points. I mean I could sit here and and really go deep and tell you all kind of stuff, but we don't have the time for that because we'd be here all week, you know. Um I think that I think that it's important for people to know that a person in the industry does not change the fact that they're human still. Right? It's very important for somebody to know that just because there's a stigma behind um a DJ having girls thrown at him or or her all the time, you know, it it means nothing. They're human at the end of the day. They have their own characteristics, they have their own personality, they have their own, you know. I mean, I think that it again, it's just important that that people understand that we're human at the end of the day, and um being in a relationship can either make or break you. It can take such a toll on you. It can be it can be so disheartening for somebody who's in a relationship where um where they're always surrounded by women, you know what I'm saying? Like if I'm in a relationship with somebody and they're all you know, like you have to be a social butterfly. If you're not a social butterfly, you are not doing your job right. Yeah, you know anybody who's in the industry knows that networking is key. You have to be always around talking to people, shaking hands, giving hugs, giving kisses, you know what I'm saying, doing all this stuff because everything is all about, it's not about what you can do, it's about who you know.

SPEAKER_05 41:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:16

Essentially, that's really what it is, you know. Um, so if you're with somebody and they can't handle that, that is gonna become another load on you. Oh, well, you speaking of this person and you're speaking of that person, yeah. And I told you not to be talking to this girl like that, you know? Like it's it's a whole thing.

SPEAKER_07 41:37

Um, can I just like challenge you for a second or just actually play, give you the opposite end, right?

SPEAKER_02 41:42

All right.

SPEAKER_07 41:42

There are people out there that fuck it up for everybody else.

SPEAKER_02 41:45

A hundred percent.

SPEAKER_07 41:46

And this is the by the way, I don't really curse usually on this pot, on a pot, on this podcast, but in general, like I just feel like there's too many people out there. There's a lot of DJs and not just DJs, but if we want to put the whole industry as a whole, right? Entertainment, there's too many people out there that are ruining it for everybody else, right? So I can understand both ends of it where like someone would feel insecure coming in, right? But then like, how do you counteract with that? Like, how do you deal with it? Like if you're not really doing anything, right? But then you have a person, because the reality is the entertainment industry in general, it's not a normal way of life, right? We are surrounded by the opposite sex a lot more than a normal person would be, right? And not just that, like there's more traveling. There's, you know, you're put in situations where a normal human being who has a nine to five would normally not be put into this stuff, right? So that being said, like what's your like take on like how do you how do you make that person feel comfortable then? Because insecurities are gonna be brought out, right?

SPEAKER_02 42:58

So so here's my thing. I believe that you shouldn't have to do you shouldn't have to go above and beyond to make the other person comfortable. Now, here's the reason why. Cause I did that, and my marriage failed still. I think it's upon the person to understand that, hey, listen, if I don't trust this person, then I I just need to get out of here.

SPEAKER_07 43:22

But do you agree that in in this industry you do need to go a little bit more than the normal?

SPEAKER_02 43:27

Of course. Yeah. Of course. I mean, I think that communication could help everything.

SPEAKER_07 43:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:31

I think that that a simple thing as commun I think that we don't take communication as seriously as we should. I think that communication would literally clear everything up. Right? Um, but I'm a prime example. But you know, it's not about what you do, it's about how the other person perceives it.

SPEAKER_05 43:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:53

You know what I'm saying? You can do whatever you want to do to make that person feel comfortable if they're not gonna trust you, if they're not gonna feel comfortable, they're just not gonna feel comfortable.

SPEAKER_07 44:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:00

So that's really what it comes down to.

SPEAKER_07 44:02

Um, do you believe in the fact that or in the idea that who you surround yourself with is who you are?

SPEAKER_02 44:12

Oh, hell yeah.

SPEAKER_07 44:13

And and I ask that in terms of the relationship aspect, right? If all your friends are cheating on their significant others.

SPEAKER_02 44:26

I don't think so. I don't think so. I used to go out with all my friends all the time, and a lot of well, you know, not I shouldn't say all my friends, but some of them, you know, were doing their thing, and I I was just never that person.

SPEAKER_04 44:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:40

You know, and I'm not trying to seem like some kind of saint because I'm definitely not. Um, but you know, like some people just that's just not them. And I feel like I feel like the world really needs to like wake up and realize that there are people out here that believe in monogamy.

SPEAKER_05 44:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:59

You know what I'm saying? Like, it is like we, you know, like that's just there are people that believe in monogamy, period.

SPEAKER_05 45:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:08

You know? When it comes to mental health, I've I really think that I feel that the the weight of it can be alleviated if we accept the help. Right? When I say accept the help, I mean accept the fact that that's what we have friends for. Um I grew up in a really messed up kind of way. Um, you know, I lived I lived in my car for a long time. A lot of people don't know this, but I had a really rough um coming up. Um my junior year and senior year in high school, I wasn't even in school. I was out, you know, picking up garbage in construction sites to try to make a little extra change. Um I was, you know, I I got my good friends Mikey and Chris. Um I started living by them. They their their mom was nice enough to let me rent a room. They had an extra room. Um you know, so I had I had a really rough time and I was I was very closed off to the world. And this divorce actually showed me, including like all of my friends showed me, that yo, like this is the reason why you have friends, especially Sodia. Like Saudia was really the person that was like, yo, you have friends for a reason. Lean in on us. Because if I had stayed closed off, I'm I'm still thinking like I have the resilience of being 20, like, yeah, you know, screw this, F this, you know, like, but I feel weaker now because I have more relying on me. I have kids now, they rely on me, you know. So it's not like I could just do whatever I want. So it it affected me a lot more, but I was able to understand that if you lean into the help, like I said, your friends, therapy, um, and especially now, more so that the divorce is done and over with. Um I'm challenging. So you're officially divorced. Oh, yeah, I'm officially divorced. Like it's it's done, it's complete. The judge signed it, like I'm done. Um because of that, now I feel like a good way to manage stress and the mental health is challenging yourself to something new. I feel that when you challenge yourself to something new and you're able to achieve that goal, then you've literally shown yourself that change is possible. Right? Whether that means going to the gym, whether that means, you know, um trying out something new and and you know, being able to do it, you know, playing basketball and being, you know, like being good at it or or or whatever, you know, just doing something new, just challenging yourself to do something new. I feel like that really shows that shows what you're capable of.

SPEAKER_05 48:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 48:09

And then it kind of like alleviates your mind, alleviates your stress a little bit, reminds you who you are and what you're capable of, you know.

SPEAKER_07 48:17

So I don't want to just um categorize you as just a DJ, because clearly we've talked about so many other things that you do, right? But in terms of your fellow DJs, because I we I think we see it a lot, right? Where DJs are drinking more and they're hiding, they're masking the pain because of that. Like what or with that, right? What would you say to like your fellow DJs that work with you in the community in terms of getting help or or going to therapy? Like, I know that everyone has to be open-minded to things like that in order to do it, but would that be then just going to therapy? Would that be like an advice, or would it just be like what you said earlier? Lean on your friends.

SPEAKER_02 49:00

Oh, both. I mean, that's what got me through everything.

SPEAKER_07 49:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 49:04

Right? I was able to lean in on my friends and I was able to utilize therapy and I was able to challenge myself. Those are the three things that personally got me um out of whatever mental rut that I was in, and I'm still working on it. I'm still a hundred percent working on it. I'm not a hundred percent there, right? But those are the three things that keep me going no matter what, right? And I think that because it worked for me, I want to preach it to everybody, including the next generation of DJs, that utilize your friends, utilize therapy, utilize challenging yourself to new stuff every day. Yeah, right? So that's that's the best way I could put it.

SPEAKER_07 49:46

Okay, I want to talk about Fiori.

SPEAKER_00 49:48

Yeah, let's do it.

SPEAKER_07 49:52

Um, it's been a while since you've done a fet, right?

SPEAKER_00 49:56

Yep.

SPEAKER_07 49:57

Give me all the tea. What's going on with Fiore? It's in when this episode comes out, it'll be two days later.

SPEAKER_02 50:04

There you go.

SPEAKER_07 50:04

So give me all the tea about Fiore. What's going on?

SPEAKER_02 50:07

All right. Well, I mean, Fiore started right after COVID.

SPEAKER_07 50:11

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 50:12

Right? So this was the event that I was like, um, I have Sokoran. It's like this really wild, crazy party. Um, it started, you know, as like a little nicer dress thing, but like the energy was so raw, like, you know, it turned into this like crazy party, it turned into a wet vet, to be honest with you. Um so I wanted something a little bit more sophisticated, a little bit more up class, right? So we decided to do Fiore. And this is an all-inclusive brunch for the brunch part, right? So that means that you're getting bottomless mimosas, you're getting rum punches, and the food is incredible. There's this guy, uh, his name is Jimmy Chef Sean. Oh my god. Like he's he's an international chef, um, Indo-Caribbean as well, and but he is just on a complete different level. Like he doesn't normally do West Indian events and stuff like that, but you know, he's a good friend of ours, and um, he decided that he was gonna do this for us. So once a year, he comes out, he does this event for us, he makes sure that the spread is phenomenal, right? So, you know, people are gonna serve you this incredible food spread, and then of course the after party. So the after party is just like energy, like what you would get at Sokarin or one of these other, you know, that real MiloFat energy is that. But the beautiful part about this brunch is like I don't know what it is. I'll be so honest with you, that every event that we do is just such a natural, raw, fun, high energy kind of event. Yeah, and that's really what it comes down to. Fiore is just that thing. Like, once you walk in the door, it's like the energy is always up here.

SPEAKER_07 51:51

So I saw Punchy Punch. Yeah. I saw White Oak.

SPEAKER_02 51:57

White Oak, yep. Yeah. So I mean, Punchy Punch, we are the only official uh partners with Punchy Punch, by the way. We are in the entire United States, the whole entire entire uh region, we're the only official partners of Punchy Punch.

SPEAKER_07 52:12

I also saw Uber Cards.

SPEAKER_02 52:15

Uber Soka Cruise, yeah. I mean, I just signed a three-year contract with them again.

SPEAKER_07 52:20

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_02 52:20

So I've been with them for three years and then I just signed over another three-year contract.

SPEAKER_07 52:25

So I saw there's like a raffle.

SPEAKER_02 52:26

Yes.

SPEAKER_07 52:27

What is that about?

SPEAKER_02 52:28

All right. So the way how this works is there's gonna be three tickets hidden in the venue.

SPEAKER_07 52:34

Like just physically hidden.

SPEAKER_02 52:35

Yeah, like small tickets that's gonna be physically hidden within the venue. So two of the tickets have uh drink vouchers, and then one of the tickets is a cabin giveaway for two with a balcony view. So Uber is, yeah, Uber's our partner as well.

SPEAKER_07 52:53

It's gonna be do you want to secretly tell me where it is so I can find it?

SPEAKER_02 52:58

I would love to.

SPEAKER_07 53:00

And then I can win this, you know, cruise.

SPEAKER_02 53:03

Oh man, yo, Uber, Uber in itself is just phenomenal too. But um, yeah, man, Fiora is gonna be Fiora's gonna be great. It's gonna be absolutely good.

SPEAKER_07 53:11

And so I actually I'm not a fet girl, right? Like, and I say that in the sense of I'm usually that, and it's just my personality, right? Nothing wrong with like fetting or anything like that, but it's just my personality. I'm that type of person that like grim me, give me a hookah, give me a drink, and put me in a corner and I'll vibe. I'll watch my friends have a great time and I'll just bop my head and like have a drink, whatever, right? Um, but this is my first Milo fet that I'm gonna go to.

SPEAKER_02 53:37

Let's go. You know, you know you're gonna have to you're gonna have to wear some sneakers and take a little jump too, right? You're gonna wear your heels.

SPEAKER_07 53:44

No, I could do the heels.

SPEAKER_02 53:45

You could wear your heels, but I guarantee you there's gonna be a point in time where you're gonna have to take those heels off.

SPEAKER_07 53:49

No, I can generally wear heels.

SPEAKER_02 53:51

And jump.

SPEAKER_07 53:52

And jump.

SPEAKER_02 53:52

Are you one of those girls? Okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_07 53:55

Yeah, I'll wear my event heels where I'm like in it for 12 hours.

SPEAKER_02 53:58

All right. I know so many girls that come to Fiore. Um, specifically last year, I remember a girl came with a big bag and she came up to me. She's like, Do you know where I can put this bag? I was like, what am I supposed to do with this? Like, what am I gonna do with this bag? She's like, Oh no, I brought my sneakers, so when I want to change into my sneakers for the after party, I was like, I love you.

SPEAKER_07 54:17

I love that or like bendable flats, like girls can buy those bendable flats off of Amazon and just slip them on, they go right in your purse.

SPEAKER_02 54:25

We're gonna mess around and have a bucket just full of flats. Yeah, and just give it a big one.

SPEAKER_07 54:28

That should be a great thing too. Just give out those guys. We don't want to see you walking around with no shoes on, please.

SPEAKER_02 54:32

Yeah, please, please, please, please. Please.

SPEAKER_07 54:34

It's like a real thing. Okay, I'm actually excited for this one because I like I said, I haven't been to a shockingly that you would think I would.

SPEAKER_02 54:42

The energy is so amazing at Milo Fat. Like, I mean, there hasn't knocked on wood, there hasn't been a single event where I could say uh the energy was low or the vibe wasn't there. I personally pride myself on making sure, like, this is why I love having Saudia on my team because Sodia literally handles everything and she lets me stay on the stage and manage the vibe of the event.

SPEAKER_05 55:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 55:07

So that's all I have to do, and that's my favorite part, right? Because I get to just make sure that the energy is up the whole time.

SPEAKER_04 55:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 55:14

I personally believe that if there's a DJ that understands the element of creating a vibe and sustaining a vibe, then they're gonna be able to do events with vibes. I think that um a lot of people understand that, and I also think that a lot of people don't understand that. Um I'm not I'm trying to show throw shade or anything like that, but what I'm saying is that like throwing events is not for is not for somebody who just wants to make a buck. No, it's not for the weekend. Anything like that. We we to uh yo to be very honest with you, I even made a video in 2018 about this, right before COVID. I I was like, yo, like, I don't I don't care about the money. The money is means nothing to me. Like I'm genuinely in this because like I said from the beginning of this podcast, I love to see people happy. Yeah, I love when I see people come out and just have a good time. That's what makes me that's what makes this worth it to me. Knowing that like I can make people smile, I can make people happy, I can make people dance. Like that, that gives me a feeling of like, yo. I remember a pundit once told me, he was like, yo, like, you know, like don't feel bad about what you do because you're making you're you're making people happy. You're doing somewhat of God's work. You know what I'm saying? DJs do that, artists do that, um, dancers do that. Everybody who brings joy to somebody else, you are doing God's work. Yeah, you're making somebody else happy, you know what I'm saying? You're you you're bringing joy into the world. You know what I'm saying? So we should be, we should look at it in a different way.

SPEAKER_07 56:57

You should have a camera walking around with you for BTS because people really need to know what it's like throwing an event. Trust me.

SPEAKER_00 57:04

Well, you should. It should really be saudio.

SPEAKER_07 57:06

Saudi, yes. And I say that because, okay, we've talked about what I do sometimes, right? Like in terms of the stage managing. There's always the front of the house person, and there's always the back of the house person. The back of the house person always gets the worst shit in the world, guys.

SPEAKER_02 57:20

Are you still doing that? Yeah, nice, yeah. Yeah, you should do that this week, right? You guys have an event this week?

SPEAKER_07 57:25

Uh on on Saturday. I'm not doing it for this Saturday. I'm actually doing interviews. Okay. Podcasting and walking around and doing interviews, but um, normally, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 57:36

Nice.

SPEAKER_07 57:36

There was a time where I did like a BTS in for one of the events, and when I posted it, every like a lot of my friends messaged me and they were like, Why do you look mad? And I'm like, guys, they're like, not one clip are you smiling, and I'm like, duh. Like, what do you think I'm going to do?

SPEAKER_02 57:54

Oh my god, the stress is no joke. Yeah. The stress is no joke whatsoever.

SPEAKER_07 57:58

It's insane.

SPEAKER_02 57:59

Yeah. Before I had somebody managing the events and stuff like that, it was just like overwhelming stress.

SPEAKER_07 58:05

Yeah, and it's not even just day of, like the logistics beforehand is one thing. Like, even to do like you have a contract with Uber and Cruz and things like that, right? Like those logistics of like writing out a proposal, writing out a contract, having those conversations, like that's all one separate thing to manage. And then the day of the event, that's another thing.

SPEAKER_02 58:27

Oh, yeah. Look, even today, I have I got I have an enormous task for the next like three weeks up until the event. Like it's meeting after meeting after contractors sent out, contract to sign, invoices to approve. Like it's just one after the other, let me tell you.

SPEAKER_07 58:46

Okay, so um, I have a little rapid fire.

SPEAKER_02 58:49

All right, cool. Let's do it.

SPEAKER_07 58:50

I've never really done a rapid fire, but I feel like with you it'll be fun.

SPEAKER_02 58:53

Let's do it. We got this.

SPEAKER_07 58:54

Okay. Um, favorite destination that you've DJ'd that's not Trinidad?

SPEAKER_02 58:59

Um Bermuda.

SPEAKER_07 59:02

Why?

SPEAKER_02 59:03

Oh, I love Bermuda. I just love Bermuda.

SPEAKER_07 59:07

One song that's guaranteed to mash up a fet.

SPEAKER_02 59:10

There's so many.

SPEAKER_01 59:11

There is so many.

SPEAKER_07 59:13

Uh like your go-to, I guess.

SPEAKER_01 59:15

A fearful woman, womana, woman, romana, womanana. Yeah, yeah. Smilo's like anthem right now.

SPEAKER_02 59:22

It really is, though. I'm not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_07 59:24

Um, okay. This might be tough for you to answer, but I do want an answer. Book Linner Queens. One is your home and one's given you. Yeah. In general, maybe. Fet crowd.

SPEAKER_01 59:39

Both.

SPEAKER_07 59:40

Like you can't, you gotta choose one. Both.

SPEAKER_01 59:42

Uh both, both, both, both, both, both.

SPEAKER_07 59:47

Um, you're the most underrated Caribbean artist.

SPEAKER_02 59:52

Ooh.

SPEAKER_07 59:53

We can we can actually have a DJ in that too, if you want.

SPEAKER_02 59:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 59:56

Singer or DJ.

SPEAKER_02 59:57

Most underrated Caribbean artist. Ooh. See the thing is he's not he's not, it's not like he's not up there. But I think he's incredibly underrated. Pretty. Yes. Akeem Chess.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:19

Walkout is my like.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:20

My dog. It it yeah. Okay. He's up there. He's up there, he's definitely up there, but definitely need to be more up there in terms of how people rate him. Pretty.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:33

Sunrise or nighttime fet?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:35

Uh I said sunrise.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:37

I didn't add daytime in there. Sunrise or nighttime. Like a like Ahsoka or a.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:44

Well, that's different because Ahsoka is a juvie.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:46

Well, yeah, but it's still like a 5 a.m. fet.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:52

Sunrise or nighttime. Um, sunrise.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:55

Okay. Favorite fat, I guess, company that's not obviously not yours. Like Ahsoka brainwash.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:03

Um, I know this is rapid fire. I'm not doing this rapidly enough. Uh, favorite brand, fat brand. Um I want to take my time and think about this one.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:21

Yeah, because it's gonna get controversial real quick.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:24

We're just gonna be burned very quickly.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:41

I would have to say he doesn't really have a um he doesn't have a name for his promotion group. But it's a guy by the name of James Caesar from Trinidad, right? He has an event Carnival Friday called Puck It. Right? Okay. Um he also does a Juve band, so he has multiple events, he also does a lot of other things, but I believe that his brand and his events line almost exactly with what I aspire to be like, right? Okay, because it's classy, but it still has that raw energy of a fed.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:27

Now, is that, and I'm this is not obviously it's not rapid anymore, but um now is that what you aspire to be or what you also like and enjoy in terms of a fed?

SPEAKER_00 1:02:37

Both.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:38

Both. Alright, we can go back rapid now. Okay, make up chains.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:42

Um what's your like I need to save the save this party track, right? Like if a DJ went on, he kind of killed a vibe. You're going on next.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:50

Uh anything 90s dance hall.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:53

Really?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:54

What's your like go-to like start, you know, when you like first start your set? Your first song?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:00

I don't have one of those.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:01

Really?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:01

I don't have one of those.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:02

I generally can tell like with some of our queens DJs.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:05

I try my best not to start with the same thing.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:07

Okay. Um biggest misconception about DJs?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:12

Uh Widow's horn.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:14

I was literally thinking about Weeders Horn.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:17

Not all our Wii D'As Horn, huh?

SPEAKER_07 1:03:20

What is uh the last time you actually like got goosebumps, like in terms of like you're on a set and like I guess maybe the vibe of the crowd, or like it's the first time you were like shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:30

Kind of Tuesday.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:31

Really? When was that?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:33

Sun go down, and I'm playing my last set for the day, and all the headpieces, all the feathers are thrown away, is people are you know have punching in their head, and they just going on a million percent and just thinking about it right now is like um what is some like one quick mantra, I guess, that you can live by that you can give like young DJs advice on your mind is your tool to build your future. You think it and then it becomes reality.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:20

Last two questions. Um the difference or the key difference between a club DJ and a fat DJ.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:29

The key difference between a club DJ and a fat DJ. I don't think that there should be a difference. I think that our job is to make sure that we please the crowd and we should do that by any means necessary.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:44

Okay. And your go-to post-party food.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:49

Ramen.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:50

Really?

SPEAKER_02 1:04:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:52

Like at four o'clock in the morning, that's what you're drinking. I mean eating, sorry? Um that's like hangover cure, I feel.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:59

That's usually like the next day. Yeah. Fish broth, ramen, stuff like that. That's next day. If you're talking about same night.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:04

Same night, like we're directly after.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:06

Come now, man, corn what nan routine dog. That's the only thing we had to go cabana, six o'clock in the morning, and call mod non routine. Okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:13

And I'm just gonna add in one more question. Who's the most famous person in your phone right now? DJ wise, I guess. Or you can do artist-wise too.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:20

Marshall.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:21

Oh shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:22

Marshall, how'd it be Marshall?

SPEAKER_07 1:05:24

Damn, I should have done like one of those questions where it was like call or uh answer or text. I would be like text Marshall.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:31

Yeah, text Marshall. I could um I could probably call Kess. I could probably.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:37

Oh shit. Are we doing this right now? Do you want to do it? We can do it.

unknown 1:05:40

Let's see.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:41

Holy shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:41

Who are we gonna call?

SPEAKER_07 1:05:42

This is about to be a moment, guys. Anyone that would answer.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:47

Let's see.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:50

Because we do know like Mashall Cass, they're like big uh busy, busy men.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:55

Let's see. Let's go do my contacts.

unknown 1:06:04

Hello.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:04

Yo Jay, what's up, bro?

SPEAKER_07 1:06:06

What's up? You gonna use over there for you?

SPEAKER_02 1:06:08

You um you have a second? You wait. Yo, you you have a second right now?

unknown 1:06:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:13

You wait you wait, you weak catch by chance?

unknown 1:06:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:17

Um you have a like a two minutes to just chat real quick. Like I'll like not even a two minutes. I'm on a podcast right now.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:23

Now you're gonna do you gonna do some interviews then now?

SPEAKER_02 1:06:25

Uh no say, no saying. Uh no saying in that time and then, bro.

unknown 1:06:30

Huh?

SPEAKER_02 1:06:30

I'll say in a time and then I'll shoot your message later.

unknown 1:06:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:34

Yeah, man.

unknown 1:06:35

Oh no.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:36

Oh shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:37

Alright.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:38

Well, I mean, that was just proof right there, regardless, even if Cass didn't get on the phone. Because clearly.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:44

You know he was here the other day, right?

unknown 1:06:45

No.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:46

For the timing desk?

SPEAKER_07 1:06:47

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:48

We should have definitely gone to that.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:50

You need to tell me about these things. Well, no, so technically Milo and I are not really like friends until now.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:55

Until now, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:56

But now we've seen each other throughout the years.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:58

And known about each other.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:00

Known about each other. We've never really liked vibed. And I see him like every time I go to Zen too, and I don't really say hi.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:07

Yeah, see, we're gonna change that now. Now now we gotta take shots. There you go.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:11

Um, I'm probably seeing jarred. Okay. I mean, is there anything else that you want to like bring up?

SPEAKER_02 1:07:17

I'm proud to say I'm one of the few DJs that was able to market myself and position myself in a situation where I'm playing on the tribes in Trinidad, I'm playing on the Uber Sokas, I'm playing in Europe, I'm playing in, you know, throughout the Caribbean for all these different carnivals, right? Um I'm proud that, and I'm proud, and I'm grateful that I've been able to be blessed to be put in a situation like that, right? Um I think that I needed a few uh well a couple years to kind of tone it back a little bit to kind of figure out myself and and and deal with my personal situation. And I think that it's definitely high time, um, especially now that I'm officially divorced, I think it's it's time for me to just start pressing the gas again.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:05

And um I it's only up from here.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:09

Well, I think that that whole just that statement kind of just summed up everything for this episode, to be very honest.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:17

Oh, I you know, I would like I would love to um to have I would love to have um the outside community people who whether you go to events or not, um, just kind of chime in and and say what they feel is missing from nightlife, right? Because again, like I started doing events because I felt that something was missing.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:41

And maybe like in this new chapter of my life, maybe, maybe um, maybe I'm not seeing what's missing.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:49

You know, and it would be great for somebody to say, hey, yo, look, why don't you try doing this? Why don't you try doing that? You know, um, I was the first person to do the wet fat. I was the first person to do the cool fat. There was a lot of firsts, right? Yeah, bringing mocko jumbies into our party. You know what I'm saying? Nobody was really doing that before me, you know. Um, bringing decor on an extremely high level. No, but I still think that we are probably one of the few events that um, at least in the Indo-Caribbean community, that uh that always push the the limits with the decor. Right? We always make sure that we we try to give that experience of like, oh wow, you know, that wow factor, right? Um, but there's always something that we're gonna we're we're gonna miss. Yeah, you know, there's always gonna be something that somebody, well, why didn't you do that? Or you know, why don't you add this? And I would love to hear from people what they think that I can do to make our events better. Yeah. Because this is far from the end. This is only the start of my event um uh uh you know life. You know, so um that'd be great to hear from from people.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:00

Yeah, I think um guys go in the comments. Yeah, there you go. Go in the comments, you know, message Milo.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:10

There you go. I'm definitely gonna be looking at all the messages and stuff after this. I feel like it would have been it would have probably it would have probably got a lot more comments if I had gotten a little sticky about certain things, but you know what? I'm just not that kind of person, you know.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:24

It's also like we kind of need again be cognizant of the fact that you have a family. Yeah, right. Like it is what I know everybody wants like more tea, but like we don't there's no need. Like we know what I mean, like we're a nosy community, but um, yeah, I mean this was great. Thank you for being on.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:45

Thank you for having me. Of course, appreciate the platform.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:48

Of course, and I think that like this is gonna be a different type of episode for everyone, guys. Um, but yeah.