Gen Z vs Friends
Come join me as a I re-watch one of my favorite nostalgic shows to find out if it was really as bad as all the generations after me seem to believe it is. There will be a discussion (with myself), mostly as I try to rationalize why I still think its a good watch, but we'll try and keep it scientific (well pseudo-scientific... ok in no way scientific but there will be numbers), give it a score and come to a decision once and for all.
Gen Z vs Friends
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The biggest narrative spark for the whole series is dropped, does it still have any heat or does it fizzle out? Plus a riveting discussion of early nineties pasta presentation.
Hello, folks, and welcome back to uh Gen Z vs Friends. Uh, is Friends as bad as Generation Z, Generation Alpha? Basically, everybody who was born after 1982 thinks it is. Um, thank you so much, and hopefully you listened to and enjoyed the first episode. Or if not, you know what? Don't even go bother. Don't even bother. Well, do. Um, but this one, yeah. We're just gonna continue on where we left off. Uh so realizing as well that I forgot to introduce myself uh at the beginning of episode one where we discussed the pilot for friends. My name is Todd Sullivan, and I am um a very elder millennial um who grew up uh in my early teens um idolizing friends and and everything that it kind of stood for. And so it has been much to my chagrin, much to my disappointment, uh, in the last few years, as I have been corrected by those who have come after about the many flaws of my once favorite guilty pleasure. And so the part purpose of this podcast is to uh see if they're right, see if there is anything redeemable about friends, see if it is as good as I remember, or at least not as bad as people would have you believe. Um, we'll talk a little bit of pop culture, we'll talk a little bit about the history in the 90s, we'll talk a little bit about other sitcoms, uh, pretty much talk about whatever else comes into my head uh after having watched direct episodes of Friends. Um yeah, or rewatched, I should say. It's let's uh let's face it, it's been multiple times, but it's been a few years uh since I have watched them the last time. Uh so there's a chance to go back and watch them again. We will be giving the each episode an official score where we'll be basing it on whether or not the episodes were funny, uh, whether or not they were still memorable, uh, and whether or not they were dealt with any subject matter in an original way. And we'll also just talk about whether or not they were offensive, whether or not they were cringy, whether or not they should or could even be made in today's environment. That's what we're here for. That's what hopefully you're here for, or if nothing else, you're just here to kill some time and see what I'm up to. And that is cool too. We're excited to have you here. So let's get into it with episode two of Friends. Okay, so episode two, the one with the sonogram. Um, thank you so much for coming back. Getting right into it, this is a big episode of introductions. It really speaks actually the older format or the network format. I say older, but I guess there are still shows out there. I don't know who watches them genuinely. Um you know, Tim Allen's back on TV and all that kind of fun stuff, uh, that kind of classic sitcom. Um, they are still out there, so I'll try and stop talking about it as a thing that doesn't exist anymore. Um, but back when that was all there was, uh, this really shows that format where you had a pilot, pilot, you tested the waters, you got some ideas out there, and the second episode really had to actually be the show that we were waiting for and thinking of. Um, most importantly, it needed to have an actual plot and characters and all that kind of good stuff. It also had to get you right into it very quickly. Um, you know, shows were very much could very easily be canceled after a six-week run if they weren't performing. So they really had to perform right off the hop as soon as you possibly could. Um couple of other things before we get rolling. Um, Phoebe's clothes do get better. I don't know. I don't think I actually mentioned that in the last one. Terrible, yeah, just not good. I mean, let's let's face it. There, she was supposed to be something very, very specific. Um they clean that up in a big way. Joey's hair, same deal. Also cleaned up. Someone actually looked at what people in their 20s were doing, wearing, and dressing uh as, and uh gets that both of those aesthetic items corrected, which is very helpful on both fronts to taking those characters seriously and enjoying things overall. Um just everybody gets a little bit more pleasant to look at. And I don't mean that in more attractive necessarily, though I think it does. They both get a little more visually attractive in the episode uh as compared to episode one, uh, but just you know, a little less jarring uh to see on screen. This episode uh also starts this tradition of starting off with kind of sit around in a cold opening at Central Perk. And just that idea that everyone's just chatting and hanging out and just being the titular friends. Um, that really starts here. To be fair, a lot of episode one was this, but it really starts that format where you know they'll go off, they're gonna do a million things, but they start off just hanging out together and grabbing a cup of coffee. Um not every episode's gonna start this way. Uh, in fact, one of the best ones in uh couple weeks' time uh starts with something completely different. Um, but it does that is the imagery of the whole series, right? Central Park sitting around having coffee in the impossibly busy and yet unbusy coffee shop with cups that of all different sizes, meaning you could never cut a proper profit margin at this coffee shop, uh, all those sorts of ridiculous um little tropes of the of this particular series. Um, but you also get that comfortable feeling of a group of friends in their third space, just enjoying that inexpensive joy, because this was, you know, pre this is what made the coffee shop blow up, so coffee was still cheap. Um, but just you know, when you're young and everything is expensive, you know, the best joy of having uh something inexpensive, having those little pleasures in the presence of your chosen family. That's that's a big deal and it carries through today. And and I do think, honestly, that you know, this probably had a lot to do with it. Once again, we talk about uh prior to this lots of shows. The only places that they showed uh who they provided the same kind of uh environment were bars. Um very different feel, very different time of day, different motif, different, different environment. So um yeah, uh that all gets started in this episode. Keeping my totally idealized, get that once again. Most coffee shops uh sitting around with six friends uninterrupted for uh long stretches of time uh just isn't really gonna happen. But you know, it's TV, it's entertainment. So um also starts a demonstration of the people who just never seem to have to work, even though we know even at this point a couple of them have very real, very what would have been disciplined jobs. Um we know there's jokes about it later on and lots of critique, but we know they're right at the beginning. It's obviously midday, um, and they don't have to work. Um and and also uh the thing I love, and we all you know, we all know this. Despite the fact that there's lots of education, at least four of the the six uh would have had a post-secondary degree, they're not talking about anything important. Um, they're not sitting around discussing world events, they're just chatting about lives and simple things and deriving pleasure from that. Some I think a lot of us, you know, uh one thing I remember from my own 20s is every time you had a new new person in their very early 20s, a freshman, uh friend of a friend would come to a party at an event, and they always want to talk about philosophy or talk about the deeper things, and it it it doesn't take long, a couple years later, and all you want to do is talk a little gossip, make fun fun as people, talk a little sports, uh whatever. Um, but you start to lose that drive to have those deep conversations every time you get together with your friends. But um I will say this also kind of ruined coffee shops early for me. So I didn't actually um start drinking coffee till much later. As I said, I grew up uh very uh very conservative religious coffee and and alcohol weren't part of how I grew up. Parents or friends, whatever it was. Um and so I didn't even have a sip of coffee realistically until the series had been over for five or six years, um, and never had much reason to go to a coffee shop. So I was really looking forward to it when I first did because I I already loved friends and I really felt like this was I was finally going to get to breach that wall and be in that place that I idolized for so long. So I first went, I was expecting comfortable seats, quiet place to sit around, relax. Of course, as you know, most coffee shops wouldn't tables and chairs, they are not asking you to sit around a long time with your $6 at most, you know, even in an expensive coffee shop. Maybe you're at a cheap one and it's two dollars. They don't want to give you a lot of real estate for that. Um, so it is not a comfortable place to chill out and relax. Not a quiet place either. It, you know, really in a lot of ways, original fast food restaurants get a little coffee, get a donut, get a whatever, get a scone, get out the door. Um, so it was very disappointing the first few times I went to a coffee shop. There's a much better ones, I will say. Uh hometown, one of the best things about the place uh that I would in this era of my life, my mid-20s, where when my wife and I first moved in together, there was a coffee shop around the corner, not inexpensive enough where we could have been there as often as the friends, but very much had that more comfortable vibe. But it was, I think, in a lot of ways, it was manufactured. It wasn't a it wasn't a natural thing uh that had that popped up there. It was something that was made based on some of these cultural touch points. Um we all know that. Uh, we're all well aware of how mass consumerism works and you know, the corner cafes and turned all that up and turned them into Starbucks, and now Starbucks are kind of disappearing because uh younger generations are smarter than we were and decided they actually want uh that third space and want those things. Um in the end, what's important is that Friends was lying to me, no. Uh um, but uh in any event, um yeah, it's tough to say any of this, any of this mass consumerism, any of the changing of those third spaces, any of the the sale of the mom and pop coffee shops or any of that stuff was 100% friends' fault. Wasn't not a hundred percent friends' fault, but it, you know, it was part of that whole machine that uh I'm sure somebody saw coming, somebody smarter than me. Um but at the time, uh initially seemed like it was probably change for the good. Uh, but I should probably get over it and move on, I guess. I will survive. I have found good places to drink coffee and have a muffin. Um, so getting back to it, so what do they actually talk about? Well, sex, really. So this is one of those, another one of those moments very early where the raciness and edge-pushing nature of the show uh are put right on the cover, even though the show itself was not that daring. But be part of it is they put it right up front. Two minutes, five minutes into the show, you've already had these conversations about sex. It's enough to kind of scare your mother off, scare your grandmother off, scare off your priest or your teacher or whoever, because that might be all they see. They never saw anything else about it. They just know that within that five minutes they were sitting around, wasting time, drinking coffee, talking about sex. Um the this episode in particular has an opening after that intro, which actually introduces Ross as the paleontologist. So we start off a little chat about sex, a little sit-around the coffee shop. Um, I didn't even write down what it was about because it was so pointless. It wasn't anything to do with the story. Um, not even a good joke. Um, but the so the actual opening of the episode has Ross at the Natural History Museum. He's in a museum at the diorama working with his staff. Um now, uh just to get over the record that we are aware of all of this, uh, a PhD in paleontology would take you 10 to 13 years to do. Um, and so for Ross to have that and to be senior enough to be giving a team direction at one of the most prestigious museums in the world, uh, would probably minimum he'd need to be 40 years old. Um there's a bit of dissence, series never resolved, we're not going to dwell on it here, but we're aware of the fact that if Ross was actually 25, he's maybe in grad school at this point. If he's some sort of genius, um, he might have completed his PhD, uh, but he'd still be very junior in a museum or an academic environment. Um, but you know, we won't get too much into that, but it is there. We do acknowledge it. It's TV, it is what it is. Um, but yeah, uh so he is he's the boss uh working in his diorama. Um one of the other things, so I didn't realize this at all at the time. Uh just assumed this was kind of a part of the TV trope. But every other time I've watched the series, any time they go to the museum, all I could think about was how terrible the museum looked. I love museums. I was a super nerdy kid. There's a uh I'm from Alberta, Canada. The there's an amazing paleontology museum, not far from where I live. Place I had to go pilgrimage, basically, near religious experiments, experience every summer. Loved it. Every time I saw Ross's museum, it made me sad. Everything was brown and dingy and ridiculous-looking dioramas, always with cavemen and dinosaurs, just terrible stuff. Um, I would just assume this was well, it's a sitcom, there's always so much budget, how much effort are you gonna put into making sure that it looks real? Um, I didn't think too much about the fact you were a senior researcher at 25, at 12, 13, 14 years old. I didn't realize how ridiculous that was. Um, but if I could forgive that, you could forgive some underwhelming displays that were only on screen for a few minutes. Um This and like I said, I yeah, I absolutely love dinosaurs. Original Jas Jurassic Park was near near a religious holy experience for me. Um, because dinosaurs were real, they looked real, it was awesome. Um seen them all, seen all the terrible sequels, you know, but it was just I I can completely sympathize with with uh uh with Ross and and the love of museums and dinosaurs. Um so this all led me to be very excited to go to the Museum of Natural History in New York um when I was 40 years old, and my wife and I went there for the very first time. Um I was very excited to see all of this on behalf of 10-year-old me. Um, and all I have to say is the dioramas in Friends might be the most accurate representation of anything in New York in the entire series. I get not all of it. I get that there's some very nice new sections, but the bulk of the Museum of Natural History is some very dated, very sad, very shabby looking dioramas filled with weird racist depictions of early and indigenous peoples. I mean, like I said, not all of them, but there's some that were built in the 60s that actually the most ridiculous and unbelievable thing is that anyone in the 90s was redoing them because it looks like they sealed them up. They latex in those glass uh panels and they said, We will never have touched this again, because that is as perfect as it can be. Um yeah, I like I said, some of them, some of the ones about the you know, the plains, indigenous tribes in North America were just just they were just wrong, and yet no one has has felt the need to change them. Um yeah, the it genuinely, as I walked through it, there's a chance that there was an undercurrent of friends just as an expose of how bad museums in America actually were. Um making making actually Friends a truly bro, brave and heroic documentaries, you know, like Michael Moore should be watching this as far as like how to uncover the gaps in the American education and museum system. Anyway, maybe we'll get back to get back to that another time when next we see the the Natural History Museum pop up. Um, because in this scene we probably have something which arguably most people would think was more important than my particular irritation and fascination with how bad the museum was. Um but Carol arrives for the very for the very first time, and she's delivering that key information for the entire show, which will let you go out for the next 10 years of everybody's life that she's pregnant with Ross's baby. So, a couple of things to note about this. This is actually the original Carol, Anita Barone. Um, and I will say this, she looks like she belongs in the same world as the rest of the cast. Jane Sibbett, who takes over for every other appearance of Carol after this, is awesome and does a great job with the character for many years to come. But one of the reasons is she's a little bit apart. She she feels separate right from the very beginning. Um I don't know if it, you know, she's too pretty, too reserved, too put together, whatever it might be. But Anita Barone, and that's not to say Anita Barone looks bad, but she looks like she would hang out with the rest of the Friends group. She actually looks like she would hang out less with Ross than Jane Sibbert Sibbet does. Um, but yeah, she very much fits in, and you could see that um her being Carol or the Carol that's discussed. Um this probably also leans into the fact that Ross is not quite of the same world. Um, and so Carol was, and and that made things easier. She was probably a bridge for him, one of the many reasons he was so much in love with her, and it was also heartbreaking. Um but yeah, uh it just it's interesting and interesting to see that that change in characters. For the record, uh, from what I understand from the reading that I've done, that feeling that Anita Barone didn't visually fit the character had nothing to do with why she didn't come back. That was just uh scheduling issues for her own part, and and she was, as I said, replaced with chainsebit. Like so many things in first episodes and first series uh or first seasons of series, not everybody realizes how great they're gonna be. Um you know, uh, and so they they're not necessarily available. Um of course, as we know, you know, this introduces this trademark storyline of the whole series. Um, the Willick Geller Bunch. Yeah, I bet you forgot that it was Willock and Bunch, uh, blended family. Um, long before we get the Pritchards in California showing what the world, uh showing the world what a modern family would look like. Carol and Ross uh were demonstrating how to conscientiously juggle parenting and emotions in a much more complex but still fundamentally loving environment. For this, I will give them a great deal of credit. Uh, once again, I think it's really hard for later generations to comprehend how new this actually was. Not necessarily in the world. You know, my my neighbors growing up were really a lovely lesbian couple raising a teenage son and uh wonderful, beautiful people. Um, but you didn't see that on TV. You didn't see that reflected yet. Um you had to look to good people more than you could look to good TV to see representations uh of the variety uh of the North American family. Television families were still very sterilized uh to not so as not to offend that middle American value and and the demographics that they were trying to sell to. Um anything which might get them to look away from the screen uh was heavily discouraged uh since it was a business after all. Um this so these characters there was a lot of scandalized parents that were right from the beginning they talked about the fact that Carol was gay, and then it might have been okay if you'd never introduced her. Um you'd gone full meris, kept her over there in the dark, um, never actually brought her on screen, but they brought her right to the forefront at the very beginning of the second episode. Um but it it it just became a very it became a very different thing, and and that became a uh a point of both critique and positivity, uh, depending on what where you stood. Um As as kids it was you know, twelve, thirteen. Didn't even think about it. And I can genuinely say like seeing the fact and let's also face it, middle America has always had a little bit easier time with uh lesbians and gay men, um, at least as a uh as a something to be digested culturally, uh, because they don't threaten any of those masculine ideals um that Americans especially hold so dear. Um but you know, we could see that Ross was being sad about it. You'd laugh at Ross because he was being so sad about it, um but not because the situation necessarily. It wasn't like, oh, you were so pathetic because you see that you turned your wife into a lesbian. Um it it was because he was just so sad about it, you know, uh so pathetic about it. The character very much on the meta, his sad nature and the acceptance of the reality of his situation showed that you know, the the the correct emotion to be felt was to be disappointed at the potential role, a diminished role in his his future child's life, not hatred because his mom was a lesbian. It was just like, oh Ross is sad. The kid he always wanted is going is not going it's not gonna be a full-time part of his life, and he's sad about that from the very beginning. Um because once again it it's a it's a piece that he he's gonna miss out on. Um what was less forgivable, to be quite honest, um, and there's a very similar portrayal of another um minority group coming up, but um was the stereotypical angry lesbian portrayal of Susan. Um she's aggressive, she's scowling and badly dressed from the moment she comes on scene, and those were all just tropes of of the time about about lesbians, about you know, the gay people were fundamentally different than but the lesbians in particular were angry, were angry at all angry at men all the time, um and rejected um the appearances and the the looks of the time. Um it's probably what led to life being harder for tomboys uh of any sexuality in the nineties. Um, because that the assumption was, well, you must be a lesbian. Whether it was positive or negative, they may not even you know, people may not even be angry about it. But if you look like that, then you had to be like this. Um We really know nothing about Susan at this point except that she was having an affair and aggressively stole Carol from Ross. And it then is weirdly hostile against him for some his simple existence as a man. I'm and I'm sure true man-hating lesbians exist as woman hating gay men and women hating straight men and men hating straight women. There's lots of types of bigotry in the world. But I'll be honest, I've never actually met uh kind of that classic man-hating lesbian. Um now this is the worst bit of soft homophobia that was bumping around the world and the media in the 90s. Um it's largely offensive, to be honest, because it's very, very lazy. Um, but once again, though, I do think this criticism largely falls to Ross's character, and that's not totally fair. This was, you know, um, there was a few failures here. Uh, he once again he still has genuine reason to be upset with Susan and Carol. Um, and very little of it seems to be because they are gay, but just because of the breakup. Susan, you know, she oh it it doesn't ring totally true because she doesn't have much easy much reason to be angry at Ross, um, except that she's a lesbian. Um, and that's not a fair or accurate representation of uh lesbians of gay people in general. Um they come to a there is a you know a sweet moment at the end of the interaction, um, which gives us hope for the future, ability to raise a child together. You know, they all kind of come together when they first see the sonogram, hold hands. You know, it feels like there's potential here that they're gonna be alright. Um, but there wasn't a lot of hope that they were ever gonna get proper representation uh for for all the characters. It it does bear mentioning that the the gellers, so Ross and and Monica's parents are actually introduced in the episode. Um, this is another one that it's a it's a strange representation. They're definitely there to contrast kind of that opening openness and accepting nature of the kids versus their parents. Um, Mrs. Geller is actually terrible to Monica, nearly bordering on abusive, uh strongly approaching a an actual misogynistic portrayal of middle-aged women. I think there's actually an argument to be made that that uh is the more negative and the more critical portrayal than actually even Susan. Um you know, at least there's some reason where there would be tension there that might result in in anger, um, even if it's unfair. Um, but there's really no reason for Ms. Geller, Monica's mom to be to be so terrible to her, except to say that, like, oh yeah, middle-aged women, middle-aged moms are just not very nice. Um there's probably something cathartic in there for you know writers and viewers uh as well. Um the 90s was definitely an era where to a great degree um the the blame came off or the shine came off of parenthood, right? The this idea that you held your parents in a certain esteem simply because they were your parents. Um, but that was really coming off. And um, after years of kind of collective therapy for for the whole generation, people were feeling a lot more free to say that, you know, at the very least, some of your issues were your parents' fault. Uh, and so the least that they could do as a group collectively was to be the butt of some jokes, uh, whether they were well-written or fair. Um the oddly though, the thing which I actually found most offensive, or the portrayal portrayal which I found most offensive, was Monica's cooking. You know, um, there's a whole joke about how Rachel screws up the lasagna and how terrible that is, because apparently, you know, lasagna is exponentially better than spaghetti, and maybe it wasn't the 90, but you know, on the face, this is ridiculous. I I love all Italian food, and that I can I can honestly say lasagna's excellent, but really good spaghetti bolognese is also amazing. It's basically the same food. Um, but then that becomes the problem. Um, because despite her training and kitchen expertise, Monica does not make a good spaghetti bolognese. The sauce, which looks sad and thin, is not actually on the noodles, which look very cold and sticky. You know, this may have been intentional, this may have been a result of the same design issues as I once thought playing the dioramas. Um, because it's, you know, as I recall, and I was kind of talking to people about this. That was a little bit of how pasta was served, especially at home. And I do remember this as a kid. You got your noodles, and then all came a bowl of sauce and you put the noodles on. We now know, and and chefs, luckily, the food network has helped to teach us like, no, you want to you actually want to cook the noodle. I just as a foodie, I find it offensive that a chef would put that on the table. Uh, whether it was her backup plan or not, it just looked bad. Um, but yeah, thank God for celebrity chefs and the food network to help us to overcome this and toss the pasta with the sauce, let it cook together. It'll just be better that way. Um, I think this is probably how they served it the first time I went out for Italian food, which kind of blows my mind that, you know, then I kept for the next 20 years to go out for Italian food. Um but yeah, anyway, it it the very least it gave gave people uh or gave Monica's mama a genuine excuse to complain about it because it looked terrible. Um one other quick note, um, one other thing I wanted to mention here is that we do see the sonogram at the end, and considering how little care Carol was showing, that baby is huge, right? And this is this is true with so many television shows, but you know, huge babies, they don't develop that quickly. If you can't see that she's pregnant, you can't see a fully developed baby on sonogram no matter what. Uh maybe he was a fast developer like his dad, maybe he became a person as quickly as his dad became a doctor, not totally sure. Um, but yeah, that's just wrong. I get it. It's not just friends, it's not just a show, but still, super weird. Um finally, so with all of that, you know, it uh a bit of a funny episode in that it was mostly trying to drive plot forward that probably could have been spread out over a couple episodes, but we'll take what we can get. So we'll get to the scores. Um this, you know, with all of that, gets a little rougher. Great pilot. Eh, a little bit down on the second. Is it funny? Um, yeah, it's fine. Um, but most of the big jokes I would say came at the expense of of Keller, Carol, or Ms. Geller, and and so they just don't hit right anymore. They don't feel clean anymore. Um, I'd give it a one because yeah, there's still some funny ones in there. Um mostly around Rachel and Cooking, which has probably got another sexist overtone to it, but um, yeah. So not great. Uh topic in a new way. Uh sure, I will actually give it a three here because it really starts to introduce that idea of the blended family, which is going to be so much of the focus uh for the rest of the series. Uh, very big deal at the time. Is it memorable? Honestly, not particularly. Um, I didn't remember most of it. Um, the storyline about Ross is, but I I wouldn't have expected it happened here. Um, this is not a great episode for it. Uh, so I'd give it a zero. Is it cringe? Yeah. You know, Monica's mother is very much so. S Susan uh offensive, not as bad as it could have been, but it's offensive. So I'd take it to the um take it to a minus three uh and a minus two for offensive. Um formulaic, yes. Um largely for the for the treatment of the gallers because there is some new stuff to it, the way the cold opening worked, things of that nature, I'd I'd limit it to a minus one, but it's far from the most original effort. Well, and could you make it today? Um probably not. Um, not unless it was on like TNT or or something. So I'd say that's a minus one. Um, should you make it today? And this gets a little bit more complicated. I'm actually gonna go with a yes, despite its many failings. In a lot of ways, this episode still teaches lessons about love and how the people we love don't need to fit into the boxes that earlier generations built. Those are lessons we are still trying to learn today. Um, or I'll be quite honest, some people are actively trying to forget. Uh, was it a deeply flawed episode? Um, absolutely. Uh might have been stubling over its own desire to be relevant very quickly, but it would be worth trying. Um, so I would actually give it a one, and that it would be worth trying to do it again today. In the end, it's a minus two overall. Um this morning's second effort um for the first for the second episode or first real episode. Um, but in a lot of different in two different ways, it really lays the groundwork for what's to come. It does show us the many of the issues which are going to plague the show, especially early on, but it also lights the path to the good stuff too. Um we see where it's gonna fall a little bit short. We're kind of we can be a little bit prepared for that, but we can kind of also see the positives, the warmth, um, the the love and compassion which is coming, the relevance and the sweet moments and the the the starting of positive positive conversations that you know you could argue that you you were still establishing the world and the world was what it was. There was uh still still some misconceptions, some stereotypes. There was still, you know, for all of the talk of were they fair to Mrs. Geller, eh, probably not. Did people like that definitely exist uh and put up that many barriers to their more progressive children? 100%. They're still they still exist today. And so establishing her existence in the world uh was important uh for future plot lines. Um, but yeah, that'll have to be good enough for now. Alright, folks, thanks so much. That was episode two of Gen Z vs. Friends. Uh hope you enjoyed it. Um, and hope to see you again for episode three coming very, very soon. This has been a production entirely of uh me, Todd Sullivan, uh script's voice and a little bit of the music that such as it is are entirely human content, no AI involved. So thank you so much for supporting this and supporting your fellow humans. Have an awesome day.
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