One Thing That Changes Everything

As we wrap up Season 2 of 2 Pastors, One Calling, Pastor Chris, Fr. Brian, and Christen reflect on a question every Christian should ask: What is the one thing that could change everything?

The conversation explores God's unconditional love, discovering our unique calling through Baptism, helping parents become the primary witnesses of faith in their families, and creating space to hear God's voice in the midst of life's busyness. They also discuss how churches can move from being places of comfort to communities of healing, why personal and spiritual growth are essential for leaders, and what gives them hope for the future of the Church.

The episode concludes with a behind-the-scenes look at ideas for Season 3, including future conversations on evangelization, prayer, leadership, parenting, Christian unity, and living out our baptismal mission.

Join us as we celebrate another season and look ahead to what God has in store. 

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:05

Welcome back to Two Pastors One Calling as we are wrapping up our second season with this final episode. We're so glad and thankful for all of you that have joined us and encouraged us over honestly the last couple of months. So we hope that you enjoy this episode today. I'm here with Father Brian and Kristen again. If you remember from last episode, and uh Kristen's been working with students how long? How many years have you worked with students? Almost 20 years, so this is an off the books question of an affiliate career. Like, what's one of your favorite things about working with students?

SPEAKER_01 0:38

Um, probably their openness to try anything. If if I'm being like, that's one thing that's a good question, but thinking about wishing adults are a little bit more open to trying new things, the way that young people are. Um, I mean, they're not afraid to get in the mud that they can't, you know what I mean. They're not afraid to try the white water map thing in the high rooms, or you know, whatever the case may be, and I think that adults maybe some there's fear in it, right? Fear if I fail, fear if I look at like an idiot, like whatever it is. And so there is just such an openness from them to try something new. Um, and they just love it's awesome.

SPEAKER_03 1:14

I love that. I love that. Yeah, I would I was able to serve as a student pastor for a number of years, and I missed that too. And I think about their influence just on their the future. Uh, and I would always tell our students too, you are the church. You're not just the future, like you are the church, and so it's awesome. That's exactly right. So Well, today what we're gonna talk about is this idea of what would be one thing, or you can do two if you want to, but one thing that could change everything in your ministry. So I'm gonna start with you, Father Brian. As you kind of think about that, like what's one thing that could change everything in the ministry that you do?

SPEAKER_00 1:48

So I I can't add hours today, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:51

Yeah, you yeah, that's right. You can't stop the sun, you can't stop the sun that's been done, but yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:57

Um, you know, I think I think you know, the one thing that could be a change in ministry, I think, is um I think one area I've been thinking about and praying about a lot is how do we help people see that they're loved? I think people you know, it's just one of the things like people just don't think that they're lovable or able to be loved. And and so, and to me, that's a big thing right there, is that it's it's not some magic program, it's not some you know, magical thing. It's just that they are loved. That's the big that's that's what that's what is for me.

SPEAKER_03 2:34

That's awesome. Yeah, as you build off that, the first thing that came to my mind was thinking about people's significant contribution. I think a lot of people think I can't be used by God. I don't know enough, or I've done too many bad things, or like we all come up with very similar last episode, like our our shortcomings, our our shortfall, and we're just like, man, since I am not this or can't do this or have never done this, then God can't use somebody like me. He can use Father Brian like he was in a different position, and I recognize that, and people honor that, but they don't see their significant contribution as well. So I think if there was a way to snap our fingers and be like, man, you are significant in the kingdom of God and empowered by the Spirit of God, like you're unstoppable.

SPEAKER_00 3:19

You know, I still remember uh one of our first conversations we ever had, probably two years ago now, two hundred years ago, something like and we were talking and and we were talking about some of like our insecurities and everything, you know? And I remember I was like, you know, unfortunately, I still have this stutter that I it was really bad when I was a kid. It's gotten much better now, but I'm still very self-conscious about it. And you look at me and goes, That's a blessing. I'm like, excuse me. But he was like, But you just said, but how how God's able to use you now? You know, you you have this this certain thing that's a struggle for you, but yeah, but God's still using you to be his mouthpiece. That's right. And I'm like, wow, I never thought about it before. Yeah. So yeah, so definitely. Yeah. So thank you for again, appreciate it for telling me that.

SPEAKER_03 3:58

And you don't have to limit it to student ministry, but I guess I'd ask you to start with student ministry. What's one thing when you think broadly student ministry that would change everything for your ministry if you were like, man, if this if this was true, if this happened, this would change everything.

SPEAKER_01 4:14

I mean, it's kind of I mean, it kind of go off of yours, right? So we understand that we're loved, people would have an encounter with God's love, whether through like individuals that they meet, through prayer that they experience, whatever the case may be, um, that they would recognize that each of them have a unique and unrepeatable call based on our baptism. And so that would be huge. I think with that, um, I think our teens are already doing that, at least at our parish, right? They're inviting friends to come experience what they've experienced, which is awesome. Um, but the other piece to that is is the parent side, right? Like we always talk a lot about like how do you engage mom and dad? Right. And and this could be mom and dad feel a shortcoming of like their kid has like had this profound experience, they don't understand that. I I don't know how to walk with my kid in their bigger faith questions, right? Like, so I just kind of back off. And and really what teens actually desire, whether or not they would tell you this, mom or dad, is that they actually desire you to lean in. They want more of that from you, they want more of that with you. You know what I mean? And so I think um, you know, with with teens, I mean, there's an incredible amount that's happening already with them, certainly like helping them understand their identity because we have an identity crisis in the culture, no question, with everything going on. Um, but I think in that case, like changing everything, it would be for people to respond to the love of God with their unique baptismal call, because there is work out there for Johnny to do and Susie to do that you and I like we're never gonna be able to do that for them, right? God has you in a particular place at a particular time for a particular calling. Like if we look in the book of Esther, right? Like that's one of my favorite to go back to, right? God has made you for such a time as this. And I would hope that people would take that seriously and respond to that um with excitement, honestly, not fear or trepidation, because I think that's something that we can sometimes lean. Oh, God has these great plans for me, Jeremiah 2911, you know, and now I'm I'm locked into that. But there's actually a lot of freedom that comes with that.

SPEAKER_03 6:14

Definitely. So I'm gonna steer us a different way just for a second. ADHD. So uh what have been some things over the last couple of years that you've been able to do to get the parents more engaged? It's hard because we're we're actually asking the same thing because the parent is really the primary faith trainer, right? The amount of time that a mom and dad spends with a student, even though you devote a lot of time, your volunteers devote a lot of time, right? It still doesn't compare in the amount of hours that mom and dad Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:42

I mean, I think you know, one of the things is just trying to wherever we can have parents come, have them come. So when we when we have formation for sacrament preparation, this is automatically a time to engage the whole family. When we kick off at the beginning of the year, how do we have um parents present and then make it a meaningful time for them? I think one of the things I always worry about is there's a lot of um, I personally am not a parent. Um there's a lot of pressure for parents. Um, they've got jobs and they've got kids who are going to 12 different sports at five different times. You know, there's just so much. It's they're constantly trying to sacrifice for their kids, which is awesome. Um but as church, how do we provide rest for them? Because like if I can provide rest and hope and fill you up, then maybe you're more inclined to come back and spend time with us in something that's meaningful, whether that's a small group or whatever it is, right? Like, how do we help g give them that?

SPEAKER_03 7:42

Yeah, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_01 7:43

As opposed to demanding one more thing from them.

SPEAKER_03 7:44

Yeah, that's that's smart. That's smart trying to figure out how to go with their natural flow of the busyness of life. Yeah. Yeah. So how about this? We talked about this, uh, I guess offline before we started recording, but what would be a game changer for the people of your church? You know, kind of one of those things that you say, this is what we hope for you. And if you could grab hold of this, it would be a game changer. You talked about God's love for them and kind of how how would that look in somebody's life?

SPEAKER_00 8:14

Well, I think uh the greatest thing is when I uh I think about what St. Augustine said in his the first paragraph of his book, The Confessions, he wrote it 1700 years ago. It says, Oh, Lord, my heart is restless until it rests in you. So many people's hearts are so restless, mine included, at times, to where I mean I'll pray that prayer 25 times a day because it's like Lord, my heart, my heart is restless until it rests in you. And when you were just talking about the life of parents today, life of families today, there's so much going on. There's so fast-paced, it's packed with so many things. And you know, getting that rest with God, it's like our hearts, we our our bodies need our family to rest, but my heart needs that rest too. And I think the game changer is realizing my heart is made for God first and not made for everything else first. And I think we put everything else in front of God because we have so many things we got to get done, and and and maybe even some pressure from the community of getting things done. Like why my kids have do this, all these different things. I'm not a parent either, you know. But the thing is, but to me, it just makes our hearts that much more restless. And we don't know how to rest with God. And we don't want that, we don't know what it feels like to have his peace reign in our hearts too. So to me, the game changer is allowing God to actually let his peace sink into our hearts and then let our hearts rest in him. Lord, my heart is restless until it rests in you.

SPEAKER_03 9:39

That's really good. Yeah. And I think as you just kind of build off that idea too, like if there is this rest or stillness or the soul or quiet, it feels like that's an opportunity for people to hear God speak to them. And I think that's a game changer. When somebody believes they can have a conversation where God can speak to them and they can speak to God, and they can get to know God in a deeper level and really experience a love for God as a result of their knowledge of who God really is in the conversation. So, like if somebody told you, hey, today you get to have a conversation with the God who created you, like that's amazing, right? Like, you know, there's nobody greater. And so I think that can be a game changer, but it's a challenge for people to be like, man, I don't know if I can hear from God, you know.

SPEAKER_01 10:24

And so I think there's sometimes a fear though, to there's a fear that if I put myself out there and God doesn't respond, I look like a fool.

SPEAKER_02 10:32

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_01 10:33

There's a fear of what's my perception of who God is. So I'm happy to rest with God if I know God as a loving father. But if I don't know God as that, there's a fear to entering into that space. Um, I can just think back probably 15 years ago at this point, a friend of mine was like, Hey, I want you to come um to this church mission thing, let's happen in the sky. He like prays over people and he just he can tell you what God wants to say like directly to you. I was like, girl, this is weird. Like, let's not enter into this, you know. So I went out of like trust for her. And this guy shares his story very profound. Um, and really all he does is he asks for your name, he prays over you. And then he shares um, who are some saints that you can ask for intercession for particular things you're struggling with? So he prays over me. I said, My name's Kristen. Yeah, he prays over me, he smiles, and I'm in this moment of like dead fear. I'm like, okay, if this guy really can hear God speak more clearly than I can hear God, like what does God actually have to say to me? And in the moment he said, he smiled and he goes, God is pleased with your writing. And I literally just remember weeping because my inclination was that God was gonna lead with, well, you didn't do this and you didn't do this and you didn't do this. And instead, he was like, Here's where I'm pleased with your writing. So Saint Francis de Sales is a patron saint of writers, you're gonna pray to him through your writing and you're gonna reach people through that. And you're discerning something right now, and I want you to. So, anyways, it was just like really wild, like it totally wrecked me. And I was like, God doesn't lead with punishment. But I think a lot of people, if they don't know the love of God the way that you're talking about, there's a fear to sit in that silence. And because I'm restless and I'm feeling it, because I don't, I don't really know if I want to know what God would really say about who I am.

SPEAKER_00 12:17

Yeah, yeah. Man, that's good. It goes back to our last episode of like the perceived the perceived understanding of who we think we we would we're re putting on God, you know. Oh, definitely.

SPEAKER_02 12:29

Oh, absolutely, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 12:31

So let me ask this in a in a little different way, and I don't even know if I have an answer. So there may be a long pause on this recording for all three of us. But I'm I'm intrigued in this because of part of my role like as a as a full-time pastor, is the same kind of question, except I want you to think about it more from an organizational standpoint or more of a uh entire church, local church body. What would be one thing if you're like, hey, if we change this as our church or if the American church changed this, this would be a game changer. Does that make sense? It's almost like a philosophy of ministry question. And I know some people listening aren't even in ministry, but it's just I've got the two of you here, and I'm like, man, I I've been asked that question before and challenged to pray that regularly. God, if if one thing could change about our church, blank.

SPEAKER_00 13:19

I tell you, the the first thought came in my head was this that our churches stop being country clubs and start being field hospitals. Of what they're supposed to be. They're supposed to be a place for people for people to come and be healed and feel loved and go sent back out into the world. Where a lot of times our churches, it's not our fault, but the you know, people's faults in this regard, but our churches have turned to like the social center of things, which had a port had had it had its moment for doing those things because of what happened in our country, a lot of immigrants, those other things. But I think, but then this the other part of that is now all of a sudden the church, the parish, the church no longer became the place where people would be healed, uh uh reunited with God and then be sent back out again. And I think to me, that's that's that's the big one for me right there. Yeah, that's really good.

SPEAKER_01 14:09

I was just thinking about like kind of similar, like there needs to be a sense of boldness to go back out again, like the risk taking, try something new. Um collaboration. I think sometimes I think we're afraid to collaborate with other people. Um, God forbid we lose somebody to something, whatever the case may be. I think we let fear get in in the way a lot with that, which is why it's a gift that we can all sit together as two different churches, right? And like have an honest conversation about what it would look like for the larger church. Because I do think you have folks who are not Christian or were and they fell away. And part of it is like, well, there's so which church do I pick? There's how many, right? There's division in that sense too. So like where there's more that we have in common than we have that separates us. So how do we work together in that?

SPEAKER_03 14:54

Yeah, that's good. Yeah. I think about like for America, it feels like, and this may just be the circles I run into, but a church is chosen by an individual or family based on content. So, in other words, what what content do they have? What programs, uh, what kind of communication, preaching, what kind of music? And when really the church is about a connection with God and with one another. As soon as we enter a relationship with Jesus, we are now connected to the body of Christ. And so I'm like, how do we shift it? Or what if what could we do that it's uh and even in our church, we have a bunch of rows pointing at a few people on a stage. And so it's like almost like, oh man, how do we get into circles? How do we help people realize and some of what God's doing around the world through like house churches and various things, like there's a different type of way that people are doing church than the way that we do in our country, you know? And it's like rapid, and it's like, you know, 12 people sitting in a room, you know, experiencing God among one another and his word and his spirit. And so I don't know. So I think about that sometimes, like if it's more about connection than just content.

SPEAKER_00 16:04

Yeah, sure. Yeah, but I think that too. I think that and then how many times does we as leaders or preachers or whatever have to think about, oh, I have to say the right thing this week. Yeah or or I have to say I have to say the right words, or I have to because it's like if not, people will then stop listening to me or whatever. Right. And you know, and I think then I think that that that would also help us too, because we put that pressure on ourselves as well. Because let's face it, unfortunately, we live in a very you know uh consumer-based society, and church becomes consumer as well. Yep. And I think that that you know, we don't try to uh um feed into that, but at the same time, we meet it. You know, I I heard a great thing this this past this or last and last week, where you know, um of of of trying to to compare what what's it like to be a church in the world today, and you know, there's darkness everywhere. And how can we be that light in that darkness and dispel that darkness around around us, which means that we meet the we need to meet the darkness where it's at, even though we're not consumer and we're and we're not trying to be consumeristic, but we also need to meet those people where they're at in order to welcome them into a greater relationship. That's smart. That's smart.

SPEAKER_01 17:18

But that consumer mindset of the secular world has very much come into the church versus the church really going out.

SPEAKER_03 17:26

Um Yeah, I think that's right. And I think that's kind of we talk about that in terms of like uh language, you know, is thing thinking like missionaries, it's the language of our people. And consumerism is a language that we're used to. We're many people in our church are born and raised in this country and kind of know choices are something we're used to. We're in a lot of parts of our world, there is no such thing as a choice between what's soda, they're like, What do you mean what's soda? Like either clean water or not clean water, maybe is a choice. Right, right. And so then it's like, oh, okay, that's that's a different, whole different mentality. Yeah. So when you think about um just growing personally and professionally, and uh just this idea of of experiencing God's love and the things that can change in ministry, what how do you prioritize that? How do you how do you develop a plan for personal growth and professional growth in an ever-changing culture of change?

SPEAKER_00 18:24

Can I pass?

SPEAKER_03 18:25

I'm just gonna make Kristen go first.

SPEAKER_00 18:28

No, I think the thing is, I think that that it's I think the the the main thing is this is that it we a few episodes ago we we talked about how to you know how to lead through transition. I think we have to learn to teach ourselves how to transition through as well. We're like, where do I need to get to in order to become where where this we're to bring this place needs to be too? So it's like so if that if that means okay, then in my homilies, I need to maybe cut a minute off the homily, be be more uh descriptive about these different things, or or even even going to like I need to look at a different homily form, which I actually went through as well. We talked about Annie Stanley. I mean, I started writing different those different ways too, you know, just because of like we need because because the the world we live today needs a different style of communication to meet it too. And I think that so I think that that's one. I think another one too, it's going, you know, looking at those things, those mistakes I keep making, or those those things where like, oh, I in order to become a better pastor, manager, leader, I need to improve in these areas too. So I think this it's a both and because one's personal, one's professional, but they work together. And and and you can't separate them out because they they you you you as a person grows personally, emotionally, spiritually, but also professionally, and they all work together as one. And then you can you can't be divided out from each other.

SPEAKER_02 19:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:50

Yeah, and one thing I'm trying to figure out and haven't mastered this yet, but how do we how do we make growth a part of our normal routine or prioritize growth as a part of a routine? Because there's power in routine. Like you do the same thing every day, you eat the same meal, let's say, or exercise, you will see change and development, but you also have to have this space. Um and Father Brian, you and I have talked about this. Like one of our roles is to give vision and direction to the local body. So, how do you build space where that's that quiet time to hear the Lord, to dream, to take risks, and all these kind of things that it becomes amongst, if you're not careful, you're just making it through a week or a month, and before you know it, six months has passed by and things are going along, but there's not that space for growing and dreaming. What can God do? What's the infinitely more He can do in and through us? And so, yeah, I try to figure out, and I've learned some from you, taking time away from where I'm normally at. Because if I sit at the same desk, I always set it, literally for me, I'm just used to here's the three things I do at this desk, but going somewhere different, right? Seeing something different, hearing something different opens my mind. And to be honest, it takes me usually a day or two just to wind down from the routine of what's next to okay, God, what is next?

SPEAKER_01 21:07

I mean, that's very biblical, right? Like God takes Peter, James, John to the mountain, and there's this vision of resurrection, right? Like, I mean, so there's that's we need to be doing that, I think, as people. Um, I think the biggest challenge to that is that we're we are comfort people. We desire just to be comfortable. And um, like Pope Benedict talked about, like, we are not made for comfort, you're made for greatness. And so that invitation for us then to, you know, God loves me where I am, but he doesn't desire that I stay here. And so I have to continue to grow in virtue in my skill sets, you know, even just looking at like for me, the last 20 years of ministry, right? Like there was I was the intern, and then I became a youth minister who didn't know what the heck she was doing. And at 24, you know, we got rid of our adult faith person. Okay, well, now you're in charge of everyone who's like 14 till they die, you know, and so then you're just trying to figure it out as you're going, you know, and so circumstantially. I had to grow and adapt to my surroundings where you do die, right? And other people don't do that necessarily well. And so we've been really intentional, at least with our staff, right? That we want to be caring for people, growing personally, professionally, going to conferences, taking time away on retreat, you know, retreating as staff or and and whatnot. So I mean, part of that is, you know, Father Brian's desire for leaders to be formed well. So that's a huge piece of it too. Um but I think, I mean, like I come back to a conversation I had with a pastor several years ago where I was so frustrated about this idea of like planning. Why do I bother planning? Like God just totally changes it anyway. I was so angry about it because like I had planned something and it did not go the way I wanted.

SPEAKER_02 22:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:39

And he was like, because God is a planner, like divine design, like in Genesis, he planned all the days, right? He's very structured. So there's this like plan because God Himself is planner, but be open to what God desires to do within that for you.

SPEAKER_00 22:52

Yeah, you know, definitely, definitely. So, oh, go ahead. Something you said. I just remember what uh Father John Ricardo talked about in terms of like someone's in ministry. Unfortunately, when you know you're in the right spot when you have no idea what you're doing, you know, because that's where God wants us to be. He wants us to trust, right? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, and so I think uh just remember it's like the the moments that you feel the most vulnerable are the moments where God wants you to be at because you're trusting in him and not ourselves. Definitely. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:21

It's uh I think for both of you guys, what I hear from you and have seen in you uh up to this point is just a commitment to personal growth, to knowing and loving and obeying Jesus more and more and more, and just professional and to help others do the same. So, with that spirit of growth and development, here's how I'd like to end this episode and season. Let's do a little uh brainstorming. So we as a podcast always want to continue to grow and develop. So let's the three of us, what are some other topics or ideas that you think we're making no commitments here? So no promise. You're just hearing three people talk for a couple of minutes, and I won't let them go on forever. I will shut us down. But just ideas that we have about future episodes and things that you'd say, hey, honestly, like I'd love, so I'll I'll get us started because Kristen's here. So I think a crazy one would be to talk about women in ministry. What's that role? How does that what are the challenges? What are some of the things that are easier? All those kind of things. And there's a lot of women right now that listen that would say, Man, I know God's got something for me, and I don't know what that looks like, whether it's a local church in the community, uh, where it might be. And I just so there's an example of your life. That's wonderful, yeah. So let me hear you guys.

SPEAKER_01 24:34

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, and I'm back to something we all talked about too unexpectedly was parent engagement. I think like how do you pour into you know, like what are some ideas to help support parents in faith, right? To be the primary witness of the memory of who God is, right?

SPEAKER_00 24:49

You know, we talked a lot about prayer today too, but like what are different styles of prayer? You know, I think people get used to they go to Sunday worship wherever they go, and then they leave, and then like now what? So I think different different prayer styles is another one.

SPEAKER_03 25:04

And then one, I always feel self-assayed saying these, but I'm gonna say it anyway. Like, even learning from you guys, like how do you develop leaders within your church and volunteers that may have a limited amount of time, how do you help them grow in their faith, but also grow in their leadership? As now, hey, I was leading a group of six students, and now Kristen's asked me to lead a group of 60 in a different fashion. Wait a second, like I only got a couple hours a week. How am I gonna do that? So I'd love to hear some of that discussion.

SPEAKER_00 25:32

You know, I think another one that that's been kind of rolling around in my head for a while is you know, how do we talk about um uh letting go? You know, that the idea of of allowing God to work so much, we just let go of things and allow him to do it. We have to we have to plan and do our stuff. We have but like I think a big struggle for many of us, me me too, is learning how to just let go. Surrender and surrender, yeah. Yeah, that's a good one.

SPEAKER_03 25:59

Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, so what about this one too? Like, what about you guys tell me all the time you want me to share Jesus with my neighbor? How do I do that? Like, what does that look like practically? Because I didn't go to seminary, they're gonna ask me stuff I don't know. They're like how do I share Jesus with my neighbor? Definitely a coworker.

SPEAKER_01 26:18

Yeah, how do I make infinite? We've been talking a lot about how do we make invitation confidently and what am I inviting people to? Yeah, you know. Um, I think helping people understand like what is my role if I'm not leading a ministry in a church, but I still have a responsibility to the body of Christ. What does that look like? You know, in my vocation when I'm here on Sunday, whatever that is.

SPEAKER_00 26:38

So you you said something before that I think might be a good thing too, is like, what exactly is a baptismal call?

SPEAKER_02 26:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:46

What what what's a baptismal call to holiness? Yeah, you know, I think that's another one that that's in the US the the the the the call of everybody who are baptized, no matter where denomination possible, that's all our that's all our call to that, you know.

SPEAKER_03 26:58

Yeah. And then maybe what we are trying to do too, like with each other, is how do you work with other followers of Jesus where there are some things that you don't necessarily agree on as far as theologically, but then how do you find the things that you do agree on and leverage that? And how could we even maybe help others or uh you know do that more across the country? You know, like what are the things, what are the things that we've done that might be help people might be interested.

SPEAKER_00 27:25

I can give you a topic we will never talk about. Uh oh. Which is now he's gonna say it. Now is is this a challenge? No, no, it's gonna it's gonna be the one like like you know, why are there so many, like like the sense of differences, you know, like like the like what what why is my church better than your church, stuff like that. That will never be talked about because we're all the body of Christ. Yeah, and we and we and we all follow Christ. That's why it's two pastors, one calling. That's right. We all have the same calling that follow Christ. That's right. So yeah, that they may be one, as you and I are one.

SPEAKER_03 27:51

That's what Jesus prayed for us. Yeah, a unity. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's awesome. Well, thank you guys for brainstorming a little bit. And I wanted to give our listeners a chance to say this is this is how we do it. Like we sit down and we talk. Uh usually Father Brian makes me pay for lunch. No, I'm just sometimes he remembers his wallet. But anyway, uh, yeah, and we just kind of dream and talk because our goal is to help you as an individual in your walk with Christ, but we also love the bride of Christ. We love Jesus and we love his bride, and God's given all three of us an opportunity to lead shepherd, care, and we take that very seriously. We laugh, we have fun, we enjoy what God's called us to do, but we also carry the weight and responsibility, and it is done with great joy and honor. And so, uh, to anybody from either of our churches, parishes that are listening, like we want to say thank you and we love you more than words can describe. And so, and those that are listening that aren't connected to us at all, we want to encourage you to get plugged into a local church. And I don't know what that looks like, it may take time uh to find the right place, but it's gonna be a place that you experience the love of Christ through his people, but you also do honestly make a significant contribution. You're not just joining that faith family to watch, like God is putting you there to serve him, and so I want to encourage you that as well. Thank you again for an amazing another season, and I just want to thank Father Brian for his leadership as he coordinates all this, and uh, we just appreciate all that he does too. And we can't wait for season three. We don't know what topics, but you heard a few ideas, so uh catch us pretty quick.

SPEAKER_00 29:22

And if you have ideas, email them to us to us too. Please fear to email us the topics and ideas, and we will be happy to look over them. If you hear me say, I'll pray about that one, that means no.

SPEAKER_03 29:35

God bless, and we'll see you next season.