Fresh off The Boat Podcast
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Fresh off The Boat Podcast
Ep 301 | Hate Watching
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This week:
African Countries Hate Watch South Africa in the World Cup
Burna Boy and Shakira's World Cup Performance
Nigerian Online Streamer Disrespects Wizkid and his Manager
Nigerians turn on Davido due to his tweets
Ghana Legends Shatta Wale and Sarkodie dropped a new son
Qing Madi's former label removed her song from streaming platforms
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What's up, people? It's your boy Toby, and this is Fresh of the Boat Show. Listen, I want to thank every single one of you that have been supporting us, watching these videos, leaving likes, and leaving comments. It is important that you don't only watch the videos or you click the like button as well because it helps push the videos through the algorithm and for people to see it. You know, because unfortunately, this is the way YouTube is and this is the way the training platforms are and everything, you know, because we are trying to build this platform for our culture and for you as well. And also it gives us the motivation to come here every weekend and record and everything because we enjoy doing it, but we also need you guys to support us as well. You know what I mean? So do that.
SPEAKER_04The boys are back in town. The boys are back in town. You know that song. If you know that song, you know that song.
SPEAKER_02The boys are back in town, bro. Fuck. I beg. I beg. I beg. Damn. I beg. You see in life, right? You get what I'm saying? I am begging you, bro. The people close to you are the people they are the ones that will tell you the truth, my guy. You give me them people close to you will be the one tell the truth. And the hating, man, the hating.
SPEAKER_03Listen, my voice is melodious. Yes.
SPEAKER_02Listen, yes. Why are you saying yes that quick? I'm sure that that does the same way South Africans will be like, they are good in football.
SPEAKER_00The whole of Africa was against South Africa.
SPEAKER_02I'll tell you, bro. I'm sure. Listen, that shit was so funny to watch, though. I'm not gonna lie to you. It was so fun to watch. Yeah, they just see the listen, Nigerians stunned Mexicans for one night, bruv. Yeah, bro.
SPEAKER_04It's not just Nigerians and Africans, the whole Africa, bro. They don't, yeah, bro. What's even funny is that they made the hate watch even too easy.
SPEAKER_02It was too easy, bruv. They were just getting slapped around and everything on the page. Two goals, three yellow, and three red cards.
SPEAKER_04What on earth can anyone pay and pray for more? Like, you can't pray for anything more than that.
SPEAKER_02Do you know what I'm not gonna lie to you, bro? I'm not gonna lie to you, yeah. I think some people don't deserve to be going World Cup, bro. You know what I'm saying? How can uh Nigeria miss the World Cup while South Africa is there?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, bro.
SPEAKER_02Travesty, bruh.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it's a travesty.
SPEAKER_02Well, that's you get me. I don't blame South Africa because they did what they're supposed to do and everything. Yeah, but I think if I was FIFA, yeah, I'd be like, you know what? I know you guys got a ticket to to uh to FIFA, but just stay home, yeah. Yeah, yeah, stay home.
SPEAKER_04These these people over here deserve to go, bro. You know what? I'm not gonna lie, it's funny because well, not really funny, but it's just interesting to know that the same group that South Africa qualified from, that's the same group Nigeria was in. So had it been we topped our group, we would have been playing Mexico, Nigeria, yeah. That's it, and you know what's crazy? That would have fitted well with the opening ceremony, yeah. Because the Nigerian is there doing I die be go, I die, let go. That's my favorite song right now. Hey, hey, hey, from the start. Hey, you come from the Shakira is the greatest, she's the greatest. Shakira is what Shakira is Shakira is to FIFA what Maria Kari is to Christmas.
SPEAKER_02I see what you did there. I see what you did there. Nuggets, you know what? You're probably right. She is FIFA darling, bro. Bro, she is FIFA darling. Banger, after that, um Samina Mina. They said, Yeah, FIFA sat down and said, That right there is our darling, man.
SPEAKER_0416 years later.
SPEAKER_02The song is still ringing.
SPEAKER_04Kids are like not just singing it, they go crazy when they hear the song. Yeah. Come here. They did please come back again. No, no, yeah, come, come.
SPEAKER_02Come back again. Come here. Nah, it's true, bro. It's true, you got a point there. You get me because Christmas is Maracari. Oh, yeah. FIFA every four years, Shakira, we don't listen, even if we don't hear about Shakira for the for the last four years and everybody, yeah. Once FIFA is around, she's popping out somewhere. I swear down. You got me? She's popping out somewhere. But before we even get to that, yeah, bro, the one that made me laugh, yeah, was this Ghanaian guy. Dude is funny as fuck, bro. Pardon Sheldon.
SPEAKER_04Oh, I know Sheldon, yeah. Yeah, yeah. He did this reaction.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, he did his reaction in regards to South African guy, yeah. Bro, I watched that stuff, right? I was laughing. I'm gonna I'm just gonna play it real quick, bro. I watched that stuff, I was laughing. His videos make me laugh if it's shiny head, his shiny head. Dude was hilarious, bro. Let's check it out.
SPEAKER_05Go back, go back to your country, go back. See, make I tell you something. If South Africa then say time they play, I didn't say time back. If South Africa they play alone for stadium, I will support the stadium and the crowd. I'm telling you, bro. That's a whole fact. And if this match like Mexico lose, we still go congratulate Mexico, bro. Go back to your if there is no point for you people in this World Cup. Just go back to your country and secure your jobs. That's it. The hand jobs, the blow jobs, the steel jobs, uh Utimi, Utimi correcting the pronunciation of job in the Bible and fire him, bro. Go and secure your jobs and leave football alone to act. It's not my piano. No, no, be I'm a piano, bro. No, it's not football. It's not I'm a piano. Football, it's not xenophobia. No, you are not cut for that. You are not cut for it. Just leave, leave the football before the football leaves you, bro. I'm not sure they are even going to win a match in this tournament. You have a player whose name is Shit Ho, a player that uh the red card. His name is Shit Ho, bro. These are your players, these are the names of your players. You wake up and go back to your country. Go back the funneless I'm taking and I jobs. Go and take your jobs, bro. Go, go back, just go and take your secure your jobs. Oh God. You see the way the entire continent is against everyone, yeah. That is what you get for being xenophobic. Yep, that is what you get for treating human beings like they are animals. Facts. You want to come and win a match. Yeah, plus that your anthem. Hey, you go baby. Bro, you you people know rich, bro.
SPEAKER_04I love that anthem, bro. Okay, bro.
SPEAKER_05It will not work. It will not work. Then this is this was a successful hate watch. Yeah, we are moving on to the next one. That's it. We will hate watch you people till you return to your country to secure your jobs. That's it. We will hate watch to you people return to your country to secure the jobs that you claim you are securing, or that you claim what foreigners are what taking from you. You know what be funny, eh? You know what is funny? The the player, the first player, the the the Mexican player that scored the first goal. His name is Quenos. But I mean he's from I mean he's from Labadi, he's gone. Actually, in real name, Quenu Quenu, that'd be in real name. He scored against them. A black man, undocumented in court. Yeah, I love their script. What kind of misbehavior?
SPEAKER_15Yeah, go back to your country, go back, you know what last said.
SPEAKER_03This one's a clap, bro. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, bro. Man said, even if it's an empty stadium, he will support this thing. Even if they are playing against air, man said if they even lose, he will go to him.
SPEAKER_02Even if they're playing against air, bro. I'm supporting air, bro. That is the epitome, that is the epitome of hate watch. Man said, if you lose, I was I will say yo, well done. Well done, well done just for being there. You get what I'm saying? Just for being there, you know. No, listen, listen, listen. This shit was so funny yesterday, bro. You get me. I saw this video of um Nigerians in Mexico, yeah, with Mexican jersey and everything. Yeah, somebody up, like, yo, where you from, and everything. Like, yo, we're Nigerians and everything, but tonight we're Mexicans, bruv. You get what I say, yeah. Right, you get me, right uh, you get me, fam. Did you see um wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, bro. Did you see the South African pundits?
SPEAKER_04No.
SPEAKER_02What? Doing what? Yo, that shit was hilarious, bro. What you didn't see that?
SPEAKER_03No.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god, that is one of the most funniest stuff on TV, bro. Look at that, bro. Look at that.
SPEAKER_04Okay, uh what what what do we say? What do we say? What what what went wrong in this game? What went wrong?
SPEAKER_15Everything.
SPEAKER_03Everything everything went wrong. You know what his face said? His face said, mess it in silence. You gotta be just sit down and reflect what the heck and you know what the funny thing, yeah.
SPEAKER_02When they were about to leave for the World Cup, yeah, they are stupid as president was like, I will be there when you are lifting the World Cup. And the whole room, nobody clap, bruv. Nobody clapped because because they knew that mama was child shit. Let me understand this. Yeah, good the president, the president himself, Maforisa, wherever his name is, isn't it?
SPEAKER_15Is that not his name? Is that not his name? Maforesa, is that not his name? Please check it, check it. I need to compell. I swear that's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_02I swear that's not his name, bro.
SPEAKER_03South African president is called Maforisa.
SPEAKER_02I think so. I might be getting it wrong, bro. Please don't kill me. Wait, please don't kill me, people. Um Ramaforza.
SPEAKER_03President is me. President is Maforisa. Shout out to DJ. You know what, you know what?
SPEAKER_02You know what? At this point, my Ma Forisa might as well be the president. Yeah, DJ Maforisa. He's the lady over there, bro. How is the president? Bro, the president said that. Yeah, nobody in the room clapped. This is a low because they know, you know, when your son knows that he's an Oludu, right? And you're saying, baby, you are so brilliant, and I know you're gonna come first. And your kid is looking at you like, Daddy, I'm a block brain. I hope you know that. Like he knows that you're lying, bro. Yeah, that was what happened in that room, bro.
SPEAKER_03Oh my dad. That was what happened in that room, bro.
SPEAKER_04I just need to understand that yeah, there's a lot to unpack here, guys. There's a lot to there's a lot to unpack, guys. I'm sorry. Wait, so not only this is what I've always said, right? When someone lies to you, a blatant lie, there's nothing more disrespectful than a blatant lie. Yeah, it's you're saying I'm an idiot, because you're telling me these things, you're telling me I'm an idiot, you're insulting my intelligence, you're saying to me that I'm not worth existing. What bro, you feel I'm lying?
SPEAKER_02This is it right here, bro.
SPEAKER_04That's what I'm saying. The president disrespects me.
SPEAKER_01We wish you strength, we wish you focus and success as you depart for this tournament. And let me say this clearly I will be there when you lift the trophy on the 19th of July.
SPEAKER_04Nobody knew. Guys, guys, guys, we really need to. This is a very interesting topic. I'm telling you, bro. So the president looked looked at the players, looked at the journalists, looked at the coaches, looked at the staff, and said, You're all fools. So I'm about to prove that you guys are all fools, and insulted them by saying that he will be there. So wait, let me understand. Let me understand this. So, what happens on the 19th of July? We all know what's gonna happen. Bro, they are going home next week, but I know they are going home very soon, but my point is what then happens on that guys. I think I wish I had the power, man. We we need to actually all come together, create some miniature type of trophy on that 19th of July. We all need to gather somewhere and say South Africa has won the work.
SPEAKER_15You get me, and we demand for the president to take a couple of loodus. You get me? This is it, bro.
SPEAKER_02What in the world? But that's an epitome of like you're just watching a politician lie to your face, bro. But then at the same time, though, what was it supposed to say?
SPEAKER_04What's it supposed to say though? It does epitomize the fact that these guys keep insulting people's intelligence. So we skip Brazil, we skip Argentina, we skip from yeah, but what was it supposed to say though? Guys, I promise you if I was the president, you're not gonna lie. A lie that would make me look like an idiot. No, no, no, no, no. Guys, remember where you're coming from, remember where you're going to. Believe in yourself. Whatever happens, you are champions in my eyes.
SPEAKER_16Let's go, boys.
SPEAKER_02That's it. Spook like a little uh a real coach, in it. Spook like a real coach in it.
SPEAKER_03That way no one can tie you to anything. Come on, lads, let's go. Come on, come on, yeah. You know your team. Oh my god, your team is coming home next week.
SPEAKER_02Straight, one way to get one way, we return together straight.
SPEAKER_04DJ Maforisa, I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_02Uh Ramo Fosa. Ramo Fosa, sorry. What is his name? Listen, listen, listen. South Africans, I love you guys. Yeah, I mean talking about that, bro.
SPEAKER_04Daddy, be go, I let's go. That's my favorite song right now. Hey, you know this that is you belong.
SPEAKER_02Oh, listen, bro. But butterboy just came there to take money, bruv.
SPEAKER_04Wait, wait, wait, wait. He smashed it, bro. You did you watch the performance? I did. Wait, wait, let me sit up for this one.
SPEAKER_02Yes, sit up, please. What? But I just came there, took money, and just left, bro. No, but I boy did exactly what he was paid to do. My man didn't know the dance routine. Yeah. Yeah. My man didn't know the dance routine. Wait, wait. Wait, hold on. He didn't know the dance routine and everything. Okay. Yeah. And then secondly, he was miming the whole time. Um, Shakira was miming too. But at least, but at least, right? Act like you're not. At some point, yeah, my man's mic was here, wherever, yeah. And his voice came on. My guy's my guy's mic was here. Yeah. His voice came on, or wherever the case is. He probably forgot. You got me? He probably forgot wherever. And then oh, and and then he brought it back. And then at another point, yeah, he wasn't singing, but he had his mic like that. You got say, I watched the whole thing like flip twice, bro. I watched the go and watch it again. I bro, I watched it twice. I'm not gonna lie.
SPEAKER_04Burner boy smashed that performance, in my opinion.
SPEAKER_02No, the performance was good. Yeah, see, the performance was good. I'm not saying that the performance was trash. Oh, okay. That's not what I'm saying. Okay, but I was just watching it, laughing, thinking, my guy just came here, stole money, and disappeared, bro. You know what I'm saying? That's all I mean.
SPEAKER_04I know when he was burner boy is dancing, you know. To be fair, the routine had nothing to do with burner boy. Because if you watch the actual music video, burner boy is just your class act of I'm on here to drop my verse, my bars, and I'm out. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Shakira is the one doing the wish, she's she's like the main act where we're gonna come.
SPEAKER_04No, but Shakira and every excuse for Shakira to show us her hips don't lie, Shakira will do it. Shakira wants to show us that she can move.
SPEAKER_02Shakira do you know how gassed, bro? Do you know how gassed we was back then with the hips online?
SPEAKER_04Bro, when you look back right now, speak for yourself. Man said we when did it become free?
SPEAKER_02I was gas, bro. Monsieur, I was gas, bro. There you go. That's on with White Clef in it. Yeah, I was gas. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, there you go. You got saying because she's like one of the ones that I wasn't gas. Boom. There was nothing special, brother.
SPEAKER_04I was gas. I know you were. Yeah, you got me. I wasn't. I just watched it. I was like, please move out of the screen. I want to watch Whiteclef sing.
SPEAKER_02Please, you two like oh man, bro.
SPEAKER_03He's projecting. I didn't even see Shakira. Oh my god, today I'm still finding those hips. I didn't know they were lines.
SPEAKER_02No, but that was you were lying, bro. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, when you look back right now, yeah, you realize, bro, you were just in shadows, bruh. There was nothing there, bro.
SPEAKER_03That was nothing. Jokes aside. Not too much of Shakira, not too much of that. The hips were listening the hips.
SPEAKER_02I love Shakira like the next man and everything, bro. But bro, we were sold a bridge, bruh.
SPEAKER_03Stop saying we, you're not French. You were sold a bridge. In 2026, right there, yeah.
SPEAKER_04She's not but she's done that that video. I'm not gonna lie. She's with the dance moves and stuff, she's done, she's done well because you know they had to incorporate a lot of the Afrofame because the beat is a deal. I was I'm not gonna lie, because what now it's like you said, 2026. I was looking at when I read this video, I was like, Shakira, let me see if those hips uh okay. You try small.
SPEAKER_02The only thing I'll give Shakira is at least, at least, right? Those are originals and stuff. You get what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_04Like whatever you say about that, or so, sorry, sorry. Sorry, sir. Via yeah, yeah. What's his original? Sorry, the shoes?
SPEAKER_02No, how hips in it.
SPEAKER_04Oh, oh, okay, okay.
SPEAKER_02You know what I'm saying? Okay, how do we know it's original? Just analyzing, bruv. How do we know it's original? No, you know, no, no, we. Me.
SPEAKER_04Me, did you see the backstage when um burner boy was giving her a hug? But let's say. Burner, keep your hands where we can see it. Brother, that that hug was a bit too long, bruv. No, bro, you're talking about the duration of those. Everything, everything, the full packet, bro. I'm not gonna lie. When people hug people, I don't care how long. What I care about is the performance of the hands. The placements, yeah?
SPEAKER_00Ha.
SPEAKER_04Bonner boy. Placements. Hey, hey, but but but pick your hand up.
SPEAKER_02Pick your hand up. Do you think do you think if if Bonaboy has the the opportunity, he's gonna be?
SPEAKER_04No, I don't think Bonaboy.
SPEAKER_03I know my this guy. Man dismissed it. You don't you don't read my guy Big Seven? The big seven, I know, big seven, yeah, do that. Big seven, no, he wouldn't. Big seven has standards. Why?
SPEAKER_04No, man. Shakira.
SPEAKER_03Why big seven deals with big team? Why? Big seven, that's not big seven stuff. Listen, big seven, that's not his thing, man. That's not his spec.
SPEAKER_02Do you think um we whisky beat beat um Naomi Campbell? Never. Do you think if he had opportunity, he would he will never?
SPEAKER_04These guys are of standards. Oh, okay. See, this guy don't rate them. Listen, big Wiz, big seven, big zero zero one, they haven't got time.
SPEAKER_03These are faithful black men. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Black men don't cheat. Okay, I don't know about that one. But I can only speak for my G's. My G's, them. Listen, I know my guys, man.
SPEAKER_04Listen. I move out of the screen, man. That's what Bernard. After that, from what I heard, after the whole thing, Bernabas, like, yeah, let's. Uh, I need to go home, bro.
SPEAKER_02Did you see um the picture that that Tyler um um Bonaboy took? Oh, is it a long time ago? No, at the only backstage and everything, bro. Fam, it's like somebody brought out a ruler, yeah, and said, Let me measure two meters away, bruv. Let me measure TV.
SPEAKER_03I don't want stress, bro.
SPEAKER_15Let me measure two meters away, bro. Fam Tyler was like you could be you could barely like shoot like that, bro. You guys so basically Tyler was the fan, bro. She should be like that, but that boy was my guy was spread there, man.
SPEAKER_02Tyler was like, yo, I've heard your stories, my guy. You get what I'm saying? I don't want no, I've read your stories at the end, bro. Fab, this is yeah, right here, bro. You guys say hey, fam. I like that though. You get me, they're keeping it respectful.
SPEAKER_04Keep the distance, brother. No, but both they're being respectful, keep the distance, brother. People before people start to say something. I love the way I love his stance. I love the let me just hold this one. You hold that one. Take that, take it. Quick, quick, quick picture. Then the behind the scenes. Do you think uh but the chance? He's not doing that, man. That that's like how about you? That's on the edge. Me, never. Tyler is my goat. You don't kill your goat. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What about you? Okay. So, what we're doing now is one person here is lying, and I can tell you it's not me. Because me, I can't touch my goats. Have you ever seen a farmer or a herder like kill his own goats? No, you don't eat your goats, you keep them and sell them when they are ready. That's how you did your goats.
SPEAKER_15Listen, salute everybody, welcome. Oh my god. You are crazy, bro. This guy. You're crazy, bro. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_02No one's touching my goats, man. Listen, fam. You might judge me. Yeah, you might judge me. Okay. I think I can see this coming from miles away.
SPEAKER_07Yeah. Go for it.
SPEAKER_02Is it wrong? Yeah. That one of my favorite people to watch on social media. Yeah. Or rather, my favorite people to watch on social media these days, yeah. Is Kate Fe.
SPEAKER_04Oh god.
SPEAKER_02Yes, a guy, yes, a media called Ten Naira. Oh, yeah, Ten Naira, no ten naira. Yeah. And then there's this girl called Sandra Benede. Oh yeah. I've seen them people on Fam. Bro, I am not gonna lie to you, bro. Sometimes as I'm sat on that sofa over there, yeah, watching them on TikTok. They just cussing each other out. That's their content. Cussing each other out. Yeah. I'm just sat there, just laughing, bro. Laughing. At some point, I looked at myself, I said, yo, Toby, what's wrong with you? Yeah. Toby, what's wrong with you? But I find them so hilarious, bro. You get what I'm saying? I said I was gonna bring it all, but I know that you're gonna judge me, bro. I've judged you already.
SPEAKER_04What in the world, bro? These days, I spend two seconds on anything Kata Fe, bro. I just scrolled through. Are you serious? Bro, I can't, bro.
SPEAKER_02I find him hilarious, though. I'm not gonna lie. I find the dude hilarious, bro.
SPEAKER_04Guys, no, he's insufferable, man. He's he does too much. I get it, he's creating content, but he does too much, bro. Like, like even that video where he was one of his what's his name? What's the name of the guy that he helped at one point? They made music or song. The guy came for streaming, and the way he chased him out, I was like, Oh, yeah, I saw that one.
SPEAKER_02I didn't like that shit.
SPEAKER_04Oh man, yeah, I didn't like that. Yeah, people that like that shit. I always I I personally always think your days are numbered, man. Because the more you do things like that, yeah, your days are numbered, man. I like the dude, bro.
SPEAKER_02I like Kata. I'm not gonna lie, I like him. I don't like some of the shit. I think I think sometimes, I think sometimes overboard, yeah. No, I think sometimes, but now people will say to me, who doesn't like money? Yeah, I think sometimes he's too into money, yeah. Right? That especially when he when he's doing the whole, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, Jesus, Jesus. I love you, I love you, I love you. Like, I understand, but it does come across a bit fake. You know what I'm saying? It does come across a bit fake.
SPEAKER_04It's so performative, that's the thing, and I don't I know making content, you have to be performative. Yeah, listen, even when reacting to music, reacting to stuff, sometimes it can be performative. For me, I rarely perform when I'm doing those things like reacting because it's genuinely my that's why I try not to listen to music.
SPEAKER_02Bro, bro, bro, bro, bro. Sorry, call you up, bro. Yeah, check out this video, bro. I'm not gonna lie, I laughed, I laughed, I laughed.
SPEAKER_12Hey, yeah, yeah, the baby mama, and he left his baby mama, the bad man. He left his baby mama, yes, he's going with his baby mama. So, so they're talking about um catalog. When he was broke, the girl was with him. Now he had little money, he left the baby, and the people leave. She's complaining, she's complaining on the internet. She's dragging him on the internet. Look at him again.
SPEAKER_03My man stood there froze, bro. He froze.
SPEAKER_12Look at him. Look at him, I can't if I like if I like for you, I can't lie. I can't lie for him, but you say, I have a baby. I can't lie for you, baby girl. I can't lie. We have a baby, and you have a problem with the baby mama. Because it's Mr. A baby. And if you go to the pick up. I swear on anything, I swear on my mama. He's like, come speak.
SPEAKER_06I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_12I'm telling you.
SPEAKER_06This did not make sense too. What is it doing that? This gets up in the US. What is it?
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_06This is not good. What's it do?
SPEAKER_12Yeah. Yeah. You could have put outside good outside.
SPEAKER_06Explain that.
SPEAKER_12Explain explain. Explain, explain.
SPEAKER_06You know what? You know what? You know, manifest that I miss you. I'm the best. I was telling you that I'm married, I'm married. You understand? Yeah, that is that they used to do I was I was I was in a relationship before. But I wrote for the relationship because they want to kill me.
SPEAKER_03They want to kill me. Bro, that is the country life for Nigerians, bro. Yeah, that's because they want to kill me. That Billy they're gonna use kill me. That's what they think.
SPEAKER_04Oh my god. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_03I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie.
SPEAKER_02I'm not p I'm not putting the judgment. You get me if I'm when I see and everything, I'm just watching the videos and everything, and I'm just like that. It's hilarious. Oh my god, like some other I know, I know, I know I shouldn't be watching that, boy. Listen, them people are hilarious, bro.
SPEAKER_04That's hilarious, man.
SPEAKER_02You get me, and everything is impromptu, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everything is impromptu, like they know, they know what to say, the reactions, and everything. Like, them people are gifted, you know. Sometimes I just gotta wish that sometimes they are not so much into money, yes.
SPEAKER_04Like the way they the environment they're in, though. You get what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_02Like everything, it seems like everything is like fake, fake, fake, fake, fake.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, the environment they're in is a pressure, it's like a pressure courage. Like, you're there to create something to get something. So, you know how we are here freely just having a chat, laughing, blah blah blah, and whatever happens, happens, right? Because we have options, they see it as you have to make it, man. If you don't make it, then that's the end. They get me.
SPEAKER_02But did you um hear about what's going on between him and the banch?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I saw the video of the banj's birthday, and he was there. This this all right, let me just say this, right? Whatever is happening right now, I don't know what is happening at the moment because obviously I'm not on the internet at the moment. Right. Whatever is happening to the banjo, the banj deserves it.
SPEAKER_02Should we tell the people what so basically from Qatar's point that he was on his own, the banjo or his people asked him to come over and call it a car, yeah? So at the banj's birthday. So obviously, Qatar is the guy that's popping right now in Nigeria. For people that don't know him, he's he's an um he he's a streamer, a content creator, and everything. You get me? Bear in mind, his type of content, you might be into it, you might not be into it. It's an acquired taste sort of content. You get what I'm saying? But so that's what he's saying that he was told to come over and get a car. Because that's the new thing with Nigerians right now. You get me? Some some rich guy will tell you, oh, come and call her a free car and everything, and all this kind of shit. Promo. Cool. So he got there. Um the media was there, obviously. Yeah. Took photos, videos in front of a car that was packed there. Because for people that don't know the band, I think he has some sort of deal with some car company in Nigeria. You get what I'm saying? So they asked him, How do you feel about the band giving you a new car? You know, you say, Yeah, you know, sort of like praise the guy, innit? After that, once the media faced out, where's the car? No car. You got me? Then Sondare, whiskey's manager, right? Say, yo, listen, that khaki that you have, can you bring that khaki first, bruv? You gotta say, so his thing was, yo, I was on my own. You man told me to come get a car and everything. I came, but used me as promo.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, sad man.
SPEAKER_02And and he went in, cussing out the band, cussing out whiskey's manager. You get me. But the thing is, the highlight of the thing was there was a video of him and Sonia, who is whiskey's manager, and him kneeling on the floor saying, Oh, forgive me, forgive me, you know, everything that I'm saying about whiskey is just for promo to get his attention and everything. You know, I love whiskey and all this kind of stuff, right? He was like, the video is there on the internet. Yeah, yeah. Now, 24 hours later, my manager, shit talking my man, cussing out whiskey that has nothing to do with the situation, cussing out the manager who has something to do with the situation, and cussing out the bench.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, uh listen, whatever the bench gets or hears, or what kind of in any form, he deserves it. Because the thing is that's what cloud chasing gets you. You clout chase, you clout chase, you clout chase, you finally get the wrong person as you try to use as a tool. Kate F is the last person on earth if I was a celebrity, I want to be seen next to you. Why though? Because the day I do something, this brother is gonna use me for content.
SPEAKER_15Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Why do you want to why do you want to associate yourself with that that person? Now we know the issue and the story behind the whole David O, blah blah blah blah blah. Watch this. The day David O says or does something silly, this same guy will come out and embarrass David David O. I don't think so. We'll see. But just please guys mark this video.
SPEAKER_02I don't think so because I think I think whatever he says, right, everyone saw what Davido did for him. So I think that that respect might still be there, no?
SPEAKER_04Not with caterpillar. Everything to him is content, it's all about the money for him. Trust me, at some point in life, you just be like, ah, remember that video that guy said, catafigo mess, drug Davidos, he's gonna do it. It might not be this year, it might not be next year, he's going to do it. That's his nature. The guy is a volatile person and he does everything for content. So the badge deserves whatever embarrassment is getting. Absolutely. Because at the end of the day, you can't use people for PR just because you want to trend for whatever purpose or whatever reason.
SPEAKER_02And also, I agree with you, and also someone like the banch and everything, yeah. Like these are legends and stuff, right? Like, why do you need that type of publicity?
SPEAKER_04Because that's how Nigeria is.
SPEAKER_02You know what I'm saying? Like, like what for?
SPEAKER_04Forget me. For the businesses. Apparently, he's got his own. He wants to have, is he about to, or he has his streaming platform? He's trying to, so I get it. He's trying to get all the buzz around, you know, you want to. Then do it the right way, then. He wants the eyes, the ears. Do it the right way. The thing is now, if I've noticed something in life, it doesn't matter what country you're in, if you do something a certain way and the right way, you will get the right buzz. Like I've always said, I'd rather have hundred views of organic real people than a million views of people that can't shift or change anything for me. Bullshit, yeah. Yeah, do you know what I'm saying? So the branch is too old for that, but it deserves it. And shout out to someone like a Wiz. That's why Wiz just dip this for a second.
SPEAKER_02Stays away from the bullshit.
SPEAKER_04Just dip this for a second. The same guy, yeah, and I want someone like a Davido to pay attention because these guys, I know it wouldn't affect his pocket because of course he's a celebrity. Yeah. But David, think about it. This same guy is kneeling down in front of a supposed manager saying everything I said is fake, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Knowing fully well, he doesn't even mean it. He's just saying that for the sake of it. Same guy now is now going again to say that guy's an idiot, it's an idiot. If I was the video, I'll be like, ah, bruh. We can't trust someone like this, man. Like the guy's shape shifting. He's just shape shifting. How are you gonna do you think that someone like David Adam, they know, they know, but the that's why I said it's not gonna affect him that well or that.
SPEAKER_02But but the thing is, but the thing is, right? They are doing the same thing that Drake is doing. You know what I'm saying? Pay your way through through the media and everything. Have those people quote unquote on your side.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, of course. That's why it is, but that's why I said three weeks or two months ago. And I said, at the end of the day, David O is not just doing this stuff for Kate Fe as much as he's got the power to do it, but it's it's of course for him, it's a cashier, he's adding to his media bank, you know, his currency is getting bigger because every time Kate Fe goes anywhere, yeah, forever, Kate Fe is gonna bring Davido's name. Yeah, yeah. So if uh there's a there's a 12-year-old kid that does not like Davido or doesn't know nothing about David O, but he's a massive fan of um Kate Fe as a streamer, yeah. He's gonna go, who is David O? Yeah, let me go check who that person is. So obviously, it's a smart move for bigger artists to always use the guys, the content creators, or some even someone lower, or not to use the word beneath you, but someone just under you know that pyramid, use them because at the end of the day, they would be the one to gash you up. Do you know what a funny thing was when I was watching that whole thing?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that this dude obviously from his reaction that he had ulterior motives and and and he was fake, but then he's mad that someone else is fake, it's fake, yeah.
SPEAKER_03That's why it just doesn't make any sense.
SPEAKER_04Like how you upset at someone for being fake when you are being fake, like it doesn't get like it's so crazy, but that shows you how the industry is, yeah. But that's that's something they're all fake over there. Yeah, I can't. That's why I can't listen. I'm so gassed at the fact that he's been he's successful in what he's doing because that's me. I can compartmentalize things, I generally can. Him as a person, don't know like it. It's cut no, but I respect the fact that he's gr like literally, my man grinded his way to the top. What he conceives as the top, anyway. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But anything else, I don't I don't, I don't watch his thing, you know. If he does something with an artist that I respect, I'll watch maybe a bit of it, but just in general, me see Katfey, nah, I'm alright, bro. The guy is just just in a in a sense, and I know he doesn't mean to, he's become a nuisance to me when he's doing his thing because he's always like shouting, it's just too performative. Like some watch Shank, you know, Shank is being performative, but it's very palatable.
SPEAKER_02You can on you can but here's one, it's but then a lot of Andreas will say that the reason why Shank's not popping like these other people is because he's oh Shank is popping, he's too cool.
SPEAKER_04So Shank is popping, it's just that I don't have to train every day for me to be popping. Like Shank is doing things with like, for instance, the other time Shank was like in the Nike, uh, when Nike went to Nigeria and they did the can't remember what the event was. He was there, he was the streamer that the invited. Like he's doing things that personally, that's those are the rooms I want to be in. I don't just want to be called by some celebrity in the emo state, and one in the Lagos state, and I'll go there, they'll present me car, I mean a party asking silly questions. Bro, I don't I get it for what the world is like at the moment. It looks like you're popping, but bro, when you meet the real people popping, man, they're not they're not everywhere, they're just chilling. Yeah, they get into the right rooms, yeah.
SPEAKER_02I hear that still. I I I I hear that talking about fake though, talking about fake. A lot of people accuse Davido of being fake, right? So, due to the insecurity thing in Nigeria, which we are praying for everyone involved, obviously, you know, because sometimes I look at some of them things and all that, I'm like thinking, what the fuck is going on? You know what I mean? So, you know, I kind of wish that things can change, but apart from prayer, man, people have to start putting in the work and everything, you get me? But that aside, people started accusing Davido of being fake. Yeah, because when the whole thing came out, shut up, he went on the internet, yeah, he he went on X, and this was what he posted. You know, he said, I can't lie. We entertainers with the fuck up, I wouldn't lie, including me, including myself, we need to speak up. There's too much injustice going on. Our country gonna go. They put my man in a grinder, bro, and they grinded him and everything, but I was looking at that thinking, bro, like say whatever you want to say about Davido. At least you're looking at the post and everything. He said, bro, including myself, because he realizes that he is he is talking from a place of privilege. You know what I mean? Like he has everything, none of this shit's gonna affect him and everything, yeah. But it takes a lot as well for him to come out and say, listen, including myself and everything, we need to do more. But why is it that Nigerians find the need to attack him instead of saying, you know what, bro? We respect you for that, though.
SPEAKER_04I think or is it a situation of talking to cheap? No, it's not that. So, for a lot of people, the grife is with the elite, not just the elite, the politicians, and the politicians. Are the ones that control the country and the infrastructure and the whatever. And a lot of people see Davido as a politician. You get it? Because of his family background and who he's associated with. So it's kind of like bro. What are you talking about? You've not your people are part of the people making us feel this way. So what are you talking about? And that's what a lot of some of Nigel, some of the Nigerians are, anyway. You can tell. That's that's the tone they they they they're tweeting with or replying with. They're coming from a place of you are in that same boat, bro. So they're doing the same thing in a sense. So that's why a lot of people don't have they have an issue with it. For me, I just think it's selective virtue signaling to an extent. Because I know the past couple of weeks, people are coming out to bring back our children and stuff. I saw a lot of artists, which some people consider celebrities, getting involved. And I think one of my GOATs, Tiwa Savage, made a post and later on posted a link of a song or album, I can't remember. And people are like, whoa, she's using that for like Are you trying to promote Song or Saturday? You get me. So this is the thing. I've always said this. If you regularly don't talk about something, do not come and randomly start talking about something else. I disagree though, bro. And I'll give you a money. I'm a biggest, I'm I'm the biggest advocate for artists or celebrities speaking up for the people because I feel like their reach is way bigger than mine, that I'm not a celebrity. But what I don't like is you cheapening the fight. So for instance, we know that the country has not been working well for a very long time. But there's a lot of things these artists can dedicate their time and we don't know what they do in the background, I get it. But publicly, they can be the face of a lot of these things, but they don't want to. The reason why they've jumped on this bandwagon, in my opinion, is because they've seen how many people are talking about it. Like it's literally like scary to a stage, to an extent where they're like, oh, we need to talk now. Do you get it? I'll give you an example. If there's a child here and we are like, we're looking out looking after that kid, and every day we come in, there's a bruise, small bruise on the skin or on the body. And we know we see it, it's visible. Until the child starts breathing, that's when we're reacting to it. We should have reacted in the first place, anyway. When we saw a little bruise, we should have reacted and say, hey, we need to get to the bottom of this before this grows grows into something. And I feel like the artists or celebrities, like I said, I don't know what they're doing in the background, but publicly, it shouldn't get worse for them to come out. We don't need a situation where it has to be hashtag for you guys to get involved. It should be on a thing constantly. Yeah, yeah. I think it should be a constant thing. I'm not saying every day, obviously. If like if once a month you're reminding the government, yo, yo, what are you doing? That's 12 times you've done it. Think about it. That's 12 times in a year. That's more than enough.
SPEAKER_02I I hear that, you know, I hear that. The only thing with that is I don't disagree with you. I don't disagree with you. Just showing the other card and everything. Yeah. A lot of these artists, especially the people that are still active in RFE, yeah. A lot of them, if that feed is all about um uh what's it called again? Freedom fighting and social justice and everything, yeah. Sometimes people start seeing you in that light. You get me? Okay, yeah. Sometimes people start seeing you in that light, and then it takes away from the other stuff that you do, which is music. That's how a lot of people see it. Like if you look at a good example, and and and I might be wrong, right? But whenever you hear about what's the name of this guy, oh my god. Um, this guy who he's a rapper, but he's a lawyer as well. He had this issue with VDM. Oh my god, he's his dad is the chief, he's one of the chief justices manager. You get what I'm saying? Fouls, a lot of people, people, some people don't know that that he's an artist, really. You know what I'm saying? Because every other thing about him, his content and all this kind of stuff, is either freedom fighting, social justice, or he's doing some sort of skate or whatever, like some sort of funny shit. Comedy. You get what I'm saying? So I'm not saying, please, I don't want people to think that I am saying that this artist should not be involved, but I'm just putting myself in the shoes of some of these artists that only think about their pockets and that only think about how they come across. You get what I'm saying? You know, so that's the reason why some of them move the way they move. Yeah, you get me? And then also the point that you raise and everything, I do feel like yes, don't wait till it's hot red before you jump out, but then at the same time, I think the movement also does need some of the prominent voices, you get me, some of the people that have the clout to get involved as well.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that's what we need. That's why that's what I'm saying. You know, it shouldn't be just this moment, it should be even if it's the smallest thing. Let's say some random kid was getting smacked up somewhere, I don't know, maybe being abused and stuff. You can still shed light to it, yeah or shed light on it. And I just think that they do this thing when it starts to garner a lot of momentum. Oh yeah, let's jump on it too. Oh guys, we all need to come together. It's like, brother, you should have you should have been doing this a long time ago. Do you do you think that they don't care?
SPEAKER_02Because I I think I think some of them do care, right? I think some of them know what's going on. I think some of them do care. But for whatever reason, whether it's business purposes, relationship purposes, or whatever the case is, a lot of them just keep quiet. The only reason why I rate what David did is Davido has an uncle who who's a fucking governor. You get me? His family is who the family is. You get what I'm saying? Like, but for him to come out and say, bro, including myself, you know, I think that's a bit of accountability and everything. Now, I I understand the masses because when you're frustrated, yeah, I don't give a fuck, I'm frustrated, you know. I'm taking it out on whoever. You know what I'm saying? So I think that's how people feel. People are frustrated, people are angry, and people have a problem with the elite. Because in their mind, the elite is the problem. You know what I'm saying? And whether you're involved or not, they are giving my guy hell, um, Femi or Teddler. They're giving him hell. You know what I mean? Like my guy will post himself riding bicycle or whatever. Yeah, yeah. They will give him hell. Yeah, because the only person that I kind of feel like, and and I might be wrong, that I kind of feel like does not get a lot hell, maybe because he comes across cool, you know, he does this cool shit that he does, and then and then he he puts some cool music on it. Is this UBA guy? Umelu.
SPEAKER_04No, he doesn't look cool. He's bruh. You get what I'm saying? He doesn't, he I promise he doesn't look cool.
SPEAKER_02Like, like, like, but I don't see him getting a um the toy back. He does. That female today.
SPEAKER_04He does because he tries to act, whoever is in charge of his Instagram try to be cool, relatable with the songs and stuff. He does get, he does get. I'm not gonna lie, yeah, and rightfully so. Uh this is this is what I've always said. If you're not gonna be part of the fight, try and take yourself out of the you know, just be out of the scene.
SPEAKER_02Him, he never says anything.
SPEAKER_04Of course, he never says anything. Why would he want to say anything?
SPEAKER_02Him, he never says anything. He's part of the kebab.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, of course. These people, they have their own world, they're in their own bubble, they really don't see anything unless, let's say, it's not their algorithm, bro.
SPEAKER_02They bro, they see it, bro. But they only but they only see money.
SPEAKER_04But what that's what I'm trying to say to you, they don't see the way you and I see it. That's what I'm trying to say. They don't see to that extent. Because if you look at the people they follow, the people they follow are not necessarily the people that post those things. That's it. The people you follow would tell you what your your algorithm will look like. Do you know what I'm saying? And what you get involved in or what you engage with. And these people don't engage with those things, but at the at the end of the day, as a as a celebrity, that's what it comes with, man. People would always come for you because you're at the top, it's just natural. You're at the top. There's always going to be people at the bottom looking up, going, yo, what are you doing? And um, hey, it's not just David Do. The video speaks, you know, back in the days, Bernard Boy used to use his music.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, now my man keeps quiet now.
SPEAKER_04At the end of the day, if you think about it, it's like, is it worth the thing? Is it worth the fight? Because nothing is changing. But for me, if I was an artist, I would probably look out for people more because I feel like, God forbid.
SPEAKER_02Fab, you say it now, bro.
SPEAKER_04Okay, I'll tell you the reason why. And that's why I say that's why I probably will. That's what I'm doing. It's not guaranteed that yet. These are the guys that actually would stream my music. So if there's no one alive anymore, people are so much in fear that they can't even pick up the phone and nothing is working well, bro. That's gonna affect my butt. Yo, that would that's gonna affect me. Now, if you're an international artist, yes, you probably wouldn't care about your homegrown. Let's say you're an artist that I have a big buzz in Nigeria, bro. You're praying for the country to get better every day because yo, the better it gets, the more comfortable my fans, the more comfortable my people hear my music. I want things to go well, you know, but anyway.
SPEAKER_02It's tough though, isn't it? It's hard. It's hard. Because I'm just gonna say this then, then we jump out of it. Yeah, even though I do agree with you on that, yeah. I just feel like some of these people, it's just the business dealings that they have, the business relationships that they have, their managers will be like, listen, don't say too much, you know, so that you don't ruffle feathers and everything. That's just what it is, bro.
SPEAKER_04That's that's one of the most important things that happen with those people in their circles, in it. That's what it is. Everyone's trying to protect themselves at the end of the day.
SPEAKER_02So yeah, just one of them, bro. It's crazy. It's crazy, bro. Did you see that? Elon Musk, that's what you're just talking about. Elon Musk is a trillionaire, bro.
SPEAKER_04Fucking hell. You know, you can share money to everyone in the world. Fucking hell, you can share. How much can you share?
SPEAKER_02But that's a whole different world, bro. Yeah, that's a whole different world.
SPEAKER_04That means he can live forever and still have money, bro. That's crazy.
SPEAKER_02Shit, crazy, bro. I saw that today. I was like, ah damn.
SPEAKER_04It popped up on my phone. I went.
SPEAKER_02I was like, God damn. Talking about millionaires and trillion years, yeah. Did you see what um Shatterwale said? Shatterwallis said, yeah, I'm just gonna pull you up real quick, bro. Shatterwallet said that he gets paid a million dollars to perform in Ghana.
SPEAKER_04I think he made a mistake, by the way. He meant a million CDs. I think you guys are just you think so, yeah. Maybe he made a mistake, bro.
SPEAKER_02Let me find that video, bro. Let me find that video. And and I like Shatterwally though, I'm not gonna lie. I like Shadow Wall.
SPEAKER_04My guy Shatterwale will make that kind of mistake now. Come on. I know, I know. How can he? How can come on? Shut up. Shut up. Shut up, shut up.
SPEAKER_02How can he? Oh, where's that video, bro? I hate it when I whenever I want to find something that I can't find. There, there you go. Let's go.
SPEAKER_09That you know, I just need to work on my stuff, you know. If I tell you, I can get paid one million dollars in Ghana. You go like, uh, how okay? I can't Ghana is a beautiful place where people understand the music culture, but it depends on who meet and how the programmers are to get those results. I didn't get rich anywhere, I got rich in Ghana. The reason is that the respect I have from political parties to ministers to you know organizers, like it's crazy for me in Ghana. Like anybody that calls me in Ghana gives me the respect they will give to Jay-Z and BRC. Facts. Anything I need for my shows are done properly, like basically everything. So I make so much money in Ghana that I've always seen myself as this international.
SPEAKER_04You disagree? I agree with him. Shutters, my guy, I agree. Everything he said is true.
SPEAKER_02So, what part do you disagree with? Uh uh, you see, like what part do you disagree with? I know that I know that you're being sarcastic.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I know that you're being sarcastic. I disagree with um Shatterwali because after listening to the video, he said I can. Okay, that's that changed my yeah, that changes everything. Yeah, it changes everything. So, Shatterwali, you know, at some point in life, we all wake up from dreams. We can't we can't sleep forever. Oh my god, can't sleep forever. You wake up now, one time you go wake up, bro. A million dollars.
SPEAKER_02I agree with him. No one. Some of the money some of these people call sometimes. Yeah, I'm not thinking, guys.
SPEAKER_04Do you guys really know what a million is? You do realize that when when you hear conversations like this, or when you hear like an um like a a sound bite like this, they're not talking to people like us. They're talking to people on the streets, those people that are not in the know, they don't know anything, or they're probably talking to promoters. Oh, yeah, absolutely. That's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_02Because if I come out and say, yo, I get paid a million dollars, or I can get a million dollars, or 500,000, whatever, you get me. Now, if you're gonna come book me, you have to come career.
SPEAKER_04Of course. But the truth is if you're talking to some guy in Kumasi that wakes up in the morning, turns on his radio, he listens to his local radio, sells his thing in his kiosk or in his little nice shack, you know, making a decent amount of money. He's not in the know. His one is I like Shatowale. Shotawale, female condo. Those are the guys that will go and camp in front of a canteen or in front of a vendor and be arguing in front of the. You know, no say Shatowale, Shatwale is a billionaire. And you're like, huh? It's like, yeah, trust me, these guys would be fighting and riding for Shatowale, bro. When an educated person walks past, oh god, it's not that's not how things work. They will punch you now. They'll be like, what do you know? You don't know nothing. Those guys, trust me, man. So when when I hear things like this, I know I'm not the one they're talking to. I just move on. They're not talking to me, obviously. Yeah, because I know I know better, so I guess uh yeah, is there anyone you think yeah, that gets paid up to a million dollars? No one is getting paid a million dollars in uh in in Afrobeat. Nobody, no one is paying. Aye, aye, we go, aye, aye, let's go. No one is getting paid. Nobody, nobody.
SPEAKER_02I agree with you, I agree with you, you know, but some of those people, some some of their fans disagree with you. Because some of those people, the numbers that they throw about sometimes they're not fans, though, yeah. Like some of some of the numbers that they throw about sometimes, and they say, Oh, this person paid 300,000 for their chain. I'm like thinking, bro. Do you realize how much you're talking about, bruv?
SPEAKER_04This person paid this for their ring, but they're right though, because the the they they are the accountants, so they were there when the guy was so bro.
SPEAKER_02It's crazy. Some some of the money that these people talk about, but I do like Shatterwelly though. D did you hear the song Um Him and Sakoli? Yeah, I heard when you played earlier. I'll sick in it. It's good change, good tune, man. Good change. You know what I'm saying? Listen, I'm not gonna lie, yeah. Just seeing the both of them come back together and all that, right? I I I fuck with it. I like it.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, the song is good though, I'm not gonna lie. It's not a bad song.
SPEAKER_02You know what I'm saying? I like it. I'm not gonna play because of YouTube and everything, YouTube. Or I can play it and then just cut it out from YouTube, bruv.
SPEAKER_14In it, yeah, you can.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I can definitely play anything. So if you're on Spotify or on Apple Music, you can listen to it. Yeah, let's go.
SPEAKER_04Shout to my guy first class. They sample your song, bro. They sampled your song.
SPEAKER_02Go check in everlasting. Shout out to Wamale and Snackody, YouTube now there, man. Yeah, you hear me? Shout out to first class, yeah, bro. I like that, I like that, I like that. You know what I mean? I like that, you know. On another note, Temp's manager, he's been going around doing interviews and stuff, right? And it made me kind of pause and think, because I honestly don't know the answer to this question. Yeah, and this is in regards to essence. If you are to ask, if someone asks you, where did essence pop first? UK, man. Is it Africa, US, or the UK?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it's the UK, bro. That's facts. Yeah, it's the UK, then then then America, then and you traveled back to Africa.
SPEAKER_02But Moiwa would say is the US. Let's check it out.
SPEAKER_13Oh call me, who be like, yo, what do you guys want? I'm like, by this time, everybody's anticipating me in Lagos. So this is the peak of anticipation. So it's like, yo, um, come to Oriental. Let's have a search on. Um, we went for the search on, we called it essence. Bro, that day was, I still remember that day, like it was yesterday. I remember what all of us wore, I remember everything. After we finished, just to come into the car, and just goes, oh my god, I did rub it. I just rubbed. I said, Timmy, the song you just recorded, the transcending song. I made them understand. I'm like, look, when I listen to it, it reminds me of like the elegance of ballroom dancing. Yeah, you understand? There's an regal element to the song that's because I'd heard some of his other songs, right? And I knew the album didn't have. I'm like, I don't, I and this is what I said. I said, I don't think Nigerians will appreciate it. But if this song crosses over, it's going.
SPEAKER_04I said, let me insert myself and be the main character. Timmy, if this brother, brother, and and and trust me, Donovan One is a guy that I really rate. Yeah. But come on, man, let's stop lying. You didn't tell that to Timmy. You all left that student and say, you know what? If it makes the cut, it makes the cut, innit? Didn't tell no Timmy that. Oh anyway. You know why, you know why this would fly off, this lie, in my opinion. Again, it might be right. I don't know. But for me, I'm convinced that's not true. That's not what he said. I you know why it's to fly off because it's now a success story. That's one thing about success stories. You can bro, he can say, Oh, that day we went through a window, we jumped out. People are wow! Because the song is a success.
SPEAKER_02Success. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're calling my man cap? You think it's capping?
SPEAKER_04I didn't say that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you see, yeah, that's what you just said.
SPEAKER_04I never said that.
SPEAKER_02What did you say then?
SPEAKER_04Oh, I said he's right. You don't need another liar. I mean, sorry, buddy.
SPEAKER_02So so I guess the key, because from everything I'm hearing, I guess the key is for you to do a song. That Nigerians are not gonna appreciate, and and the the it pops off in the diaspora first, and then it can go back to Nigeria now.
SPEAKER_04I guess that that is the that's that is the key though. That's not it's not just songs, it's anything anyway, because the average Nigerian person loves a good validation, especially from their colonial masters. Oh, they love it so much. So if you are Nigerian and you're doing something really well, no one knows you, no one cares about you, and you start to pop somewhere and they say, eh, something, your name is something, something that it's very much like Nigerian, bruh. Nigerians will start to fluctuate, bro.
SPEAKER_02Or is it that the Nigerians, because what I've noticed, yeah, when it comes to this thing we call Afro-Bez, is we have two different camps, yeah. We have the camp in Nigeria, they want a certain type of music. You know what I mean? They they want a certain type of sound, yeah. Then we have obviously us that are here or in America, wherever, right? Where we appreciate that sound, yeah, but then we are also open to something different.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, because you get my point, yeah, and I get your point.
SPEAKER_02So I think that's probably it. Now, when the ones in Nigeria hear this and see the way we are reacting to this song, they're probably thinking, yo, what's in that song that we are not hearing? And then they want to go hear it, if that makes sense. Yeah, so it's probably that.
SPEAKER_04Nah, it's formal. Trust me. I'm I'm Nigerian, I know how this works, bro. These guys don't care about a lot of things, but as soon as it starts to pop up somewhere, suddenly you see everyone jump into it. It's just that's how they are. It's just that that's the thing about Nigerians, bro. It's just they don't you go off, do your thing. If you blow up from it, I promise you, Nigerians will come and celebrate you. That's it.
SPEAKER_02But everybody loves a success story, though, isn't it?
SPEAKER_04You know what I mean? Burner Boy, whiskey, everyone. Not every whiskey, because whiskey was celebrated in Nigeria properly, but even your burner boy, all of these other artists, Thames as well. You know what I mean? You can be doing your thing, you have your small pocket of fans, cool, cool, cool. But as soon as the Western people hear you, love you, take you in, giving you food, shower you, buy you clothes, and all that. See your Nigerians, uh is that your new house? No, I'm just living with them. Ah, why do you sound so different? Uh I'm Nigerian. Hey, you're Nigerian, come, come, come, brother. I've been here for past how many years? You see me, we've spoken. You did not tell me to come suddenly because Nigerians are funny people, man. But yeah, that's all it is, man.
SPEAKER_02Nah, nah, it's cool though. I mean, listen, essence is essence, bro. You get me.
SPEAKER_14I still think the UK blew the song up, to be fair. Yeah, you think so, yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I hear that though. I hear that. I hear that.
SPEAKER_02Bro, let's get into the record beef, bruv. I had to go drink some water. I'm not gonna lie to you, bruv. You guys say I had to go drink some water and everything, yeah. But let's get to this record beef, bruv. Yeah, Queen Muddy and her former label. Is it formal label or her label? Because the label is saying you still owe us. But now she she in she's in bed with a new label, k KFMD. Yeah, right? Her formal label is um J T O N, I think. J T-O-N, something like that. You go I'm saying, so they are in some fracas, if I will use the word, yeah. Everybody was excited to see her drop a new music with Zinoliski and say what you want to say about Zinolisky. I think he's a very talented guy. Unfortunately, he was in the situation that he was in, but that's that's another conversation. So they dropped the music, and the next thing we saw, JT ON clipped it of the internet. You know what I mean? She came out there talking or whatever, but then now the whole conversation is coming out, and we are now seeing papers and everything because they are in court at the moment. So Queen Maddy's thing, just in a nutshell, she is saying that she was poached as a minor. She was 16 years old at the time. That was when she was signed. And now she's an adult. She feels that she has been taking advantage of an order. You go what I mean? Because she probably has looked at her contract, or like new labels always do, look at your contract and everything, and tell you that your old contract is fucked up and your old label is robbing you, i.e. Rock Nation, they are very good at it. Yeah? So, but her formal label is saying nah you still owe us some money. You go, I mean, so you have to pay the money back. You go, I mean, so we're gonna take the money from your shows, we're gonna take the money from some of these other things that you're doing, but we want our money back. You get me? But now the problem is because this whole situation is still in court. Where are the receipts that she she owes you guys? Apparently, no receipts have been showed yet. You go I mean, so at this very moment in time is she say, they say, she say, they say. But we've seen this movie so many times. But what do you think about this, considering from what she's saying that she was a minor?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, of course, she's right. She goes signed as a minor. But the truth is, I'll be honest, I'm not on an I'm I used to be, now I'm always gonna be on the label side, man. Because these people pull a lot of. Even as a minor? No, no, no. I'm taking that out of the situation. I'm saying, as a minor, of course, 100%, you should definitely have like a type of contract that would help that minor when they become an adult. So that contract can be oh, once once you turn 18, we can revise this contract. That's something you can do because obviously that person's a child, and also it's not the person, not the child signing, they're gonna have a guardian or whatever.
SPEAKER_02And that right there is my question. Like, who actually signed the contract? Where's the guardian? The parents, like, you know what I'm saying? I have so many questions to this.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Uh to be fair, I'll be honest with you guys, I'm not gonna lie. I don't care about this situation, I care about what exactly the situation is about. Like, I don't King Madion, because again, these people will never tell us the truth. Madam will say this one happened, this one. They tried to somewhere in the middle. Yeah, exactly. I care more about the fact that artists need to still learn. Once you sign a contract, you should know what you're signing for and into. Because you never know.
SPEAKER_02But sometimes, bro, if some of these artists are hungry, if some of these artists are desperate and everything, they've never seen this type of money before. Even bro, even with this one, yeah, the money's just stupid money, though. You get what I'm saying? Like, I believe I saw somewhere $38,000. Which kind of makes me wonder sometimes. What kind of contract are these people signing in Nigeria, bruh? Because yo, I signed this person, I signed this person. Like, are they really seeing the money? Or okay, I'm gonna sign you, I'm gonna give you a house in Lecky, or rent a house for you in Lecky, or whatever. You get what I'm saying? Because I believe I saw someone, I don't know who it was on the internet, saying that the house that he is living in was paid for by Olamide for two years. You got what I mean? I came across that clip on social media and everything. I don't know where it is and everything, but I saw that. So I always ask that sort of question what's our contract really are these people signing in Nigeria? How does the record labels in Nigeria actually work?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, well, there's money as they say, oh a Lego, meaning there's money in Lagos, bro. So these people depend on shows, features, like her song, one of her most prominent songs featuring Benson. Benson was paid $30,000 for that feature. So there you go. You know, that's what a record label can do for you. You know, pay someone else $30,000 just for a feature. Hey, listen, I feel like I'm within every right if I'm a record label owner. Do you want to recoup? It's a loan. What the heck? I'm changing your life for God's sake. You know, and now the only thing I can have an exception to is like a slave deal. That's kind of crazy because there's no need. Make sure the deal benefits both of us somehow. But most importantly, benefits me more because I'm the one giving my putting the money down. The situation is silly. Again, like I said, we've seen this so many times. You think all of these other artists, young artists that have been signed as a minor, if we don't, some of them we don't even know their stories. But because King Maddy is pretty much she's famous to an extent in the Nigerian scene, that's why we're hearing about this.
SPEAKER_02But it is wrong though for labels to poach artists, underage artists like that. I think it's so wrong. Yeah, but okay, what it is is especially especially the fact as well that some of these people who knows how educated their parents are, or the people that they have around them, the label will say, Don't worry, we are gonna prove um provide a um provide you with a lawyer and everything. The lawyer's probably working for the label. You go, I mean, tell you some bullshit. You want to be famous, you know what I'm saying? You want some of the money, wherever the case is, you you sign away your life, and then you find yourself in this situation.
SPEAKER_04I'm uncomfortable with them leaning so much on the on the rage thing, and I knew she had to use that. That's like an ammunition. She had to use that because that's where you buy sympathy, you buy all of this attention, and people are, oh, them evil people. Because um suddenly now, yeah, you know, you're a minor, but when the music dropped and all this stuff, we're all basking in the idea of oh, she's young, she's gonna be a star in the future. It's just like life is life is unfair, man. It's just crazy, bro.
SPEAKER_02Label problems are always gonna be there, they're fair. Like, for example, what's his face? He just got dropped by um his label as well. Um and I like him, T.I. Blaze.
SPEAKER_04T.I. Blaze. I don't think he got dropped, I think he left one of the other because he's got what's the name of his new record label? Um yeah, he left. He left, sorry. He left his record label, but yeah, it happens. Dapper music, well done to you guys. Um, I guess his contract was over. There's no point of renewing it, you know. And Dappa music is still one of the best things to happen to Afrobeats, in my in my opinion, in the last five years, because it's helped a lot.
SPEAKER_02But they've had a lot of um, they've had a lot of scandals. A couple of scandals.
SPEAKER_04Um, just a few people, but again, you know how most of these Nigerians are. They leave a place that I start to say stuff about it. But hey, no one remembers how Dappa took people from the streets to give them a voice, kind of, and help this artist with exposure, with time, patience. There's a lot, man. But they see DAPA as the bad guy, I guess. But for me, Dapper is not a bad guy. Because like I say, in the last five, six, yeah, in the last five to six years, Dapper is possibly one of the most important cog in the wheel that we call Afrobeats on the machine. So too many stars, man. Too many, uh, too many moments. Yeah, too many moments, man. I hear that. Shout out to Dappa.
SPEAKER_02I hear that though. I hear that. Listen, hey, read your contracts. That's what I'll say, bro. Facts. I don't know any of these people. I can't vouch for any of them. Yeah, fact. You got you go. I can't vouch for label, I can't vouch for artist, bro. You get what I'm saying? We just gotta look at your situation and be like learn from it, you got what I'm saying, and I just hope people just learn from it. Yeah, you gotta say, big facts, yeah, bro. Fam, before we get out of here, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Ruga Ruga, don't try that nonsense again. See, don't try. But first of all, I don't think anyone was asking, oh, where's Ruga's music? Brother, don't try that again. Oh, man, dropping a statement telling us the reason why Ruga's not dropped. Oh, God, did we ask? Hey, we didn't ask now, Ruga, we like you the way you are. Saying the reason he didn't drop music from the statement. Um, you said that is false flag. No, I'm I'm paraphrasing now. He's saying he had emotional distress. No, not no, no, no, not him. Ruga Ruga. Ruga, not him having emotional distress. No, I know. No, he said someone is suing him for emotional distress. That's what I'm saying. So that's affected him, something like that. Yeah, that's what's affected him, and it stopped him from making music. Oh god, get back in the house. Lock your door, it's raining. Is it what nonsense is it? False flag, yeah. Oh my god, or if you think for attention, bro. No one asked, you know.
SPEAKER_02Listen, bro, I've got said this is the thing right here, yeah. We know it's been a while since Ruga dropped some new music. I just saw you touring everywhere, bro, just a couple weeks ago. Bro, no one asked. I just saw you touring a couple weeks ago, bro. For some time, Ruga was caught up in a series of personal challenges after someone he dated decided to sue him for allegedly emotional stress and damages. That chapter is now behind him. A new chapter begins, a new energy emerges. I guess the new single will be Energy Emerge. You gonna mean new music drops.
SPEAKER_03There you go. What nonsense is this? What nonsense is this?
SPEAKER_02New music drops this August. We would like to sincerely thank everyone who remained patient and continue to support Ruga throughout the silence, bro. Fam, you you were not silent at all, bro.
SPEAKER_04Ruga, so you're writing this in third person. First of all, Ruga, stop it, stop this.
SPEAKER_02You can understand it, bro. Mama just sat there. Listen, mama just sat there, yeah. Use the typewriter, bruh. Let me just type this shit. You can understand it. Like, bro, what we even do, bro.
SPEAKER_04I didn't ask first. Two, I forgot that because bro, I heard your music not too long ago. I saw you, I saw you tour it just last week, bro. Yeah, let's get it. And three, we know how the scene is. If you truly got sued, everyone would have known about it. Brother, just say, hey guys, I'm going to drop music. This bro, is this how low that these guys are?
SPEAKER_02They've got into a man just said this is a new rollout. Mama just said what he said, and then the next line is new music.
SPEAKER_04So, this is how low that place has gotten. That we have to use things like this for rollout.
SPEAKER_02A new a new energy emerge, you gave me this.
SPEAKER_03This is like a movie script, bruv. I'm telling you, you know, Dak Dak Shabalela.
SPEAKER_02Listen, shout out to Ruga though. Not gonna lie. I just saw that shit. I could not stop laughing, but then you know the one that made me laugh. Follower. Apparently, someone except Fuller on Snapchat. Yeah. Good afternoon, Follower. I'm your great fan. Not only fan, air conditioned. Yeah. Please tell your brother in Manchester to stop sleeping with my wife. If he doesn't stop, whatever he sees after that will be the end of his life. This has destroyed my home. Tell your brother Wheezy in Manchester to stay away from my wife. Unless I will set them up and die together.
SPEAKER_04Okay, welcome to another episode of Things That Didn't Happen. I'm tired of this. That's why I'm already out of the Afro Beats, bro. I'm not gonna lie. Recently, I've just found everything a drag because these guys just make up stuff.
SPEAKER_02Bro, they're just making up stories at this point, bro. For like even posting it in to be what? It's so transparent as well. Like you just look at thinking, thinking, bro, you really you really think we are smart. You really think we are so dumb? You really think that your fans are dumb that they're just gonna swallow this? Oh no, some did and just run with it.
SPEAKER_04Some people are like, ah, you know, see what shut up, switch your phone and go to bed.
SPEAKER_02You gonna say, like, what are we even doing, bro? Some of those people just sit at a round table with their team and be like, yo, how can we what are we gonna post and everything to kind of trend a little bit? Fam.
SPEAKER_04You know what? I don't blame you guys.
SPEAKER_02Just drop some music.
SPEAKER_04I'm not gonna lie. Fulla, you won this time. Look, we are talking about this nonsense. Left up to me. I would never be this is not something to talk about. You know what? That's right. He won. He won. We'll get him next time. Yes, sir. We'll game next time. Fuller, stop your nonsense. You and Ruga, go home. Because right now there's somewhere doing um oblit, and they're just typing nonsense. You get me, man. Telling us we know. We didn't know, we didn't know. What do you mean we know? What the heck is going on here in third person, you know? Ruga, stop this.
SPEAKER_02This is crazy, but these guys are crazy, but it's jokes at this point.
SPEAKER_04Hey, bro, it's funny, bro. It's jokes at this point. I don't know what these guys are thinking. You get me.
SPEAKER_02But listen, bro. It's been a good one. Oh man, we did well, man. Yeah, bro. Late one tonight. What the time right now? 10 30 p.m.
SPEAKER_04Oh, my missus must be looking.
SPEAKER_02Oh she's probably thinking, yo, where is this guy? How many missus again? You have again.
SPEAKER_04What is this? You too like who? I have one and only love of my life. You too like who love of my life. Uh the woman that helps me, yeah, nurtures me, yeah, looks after me, yeah, prays for me. Yeah, oh, yeah, baby. I love you.
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