15. Lets Have a Little Fun

In this episode, we kept it simple. Five questions each, no prep, and no idea what was coming.

Some of it got thoughtful, some of it got random, and a lot of it was just fun. Questions that made us think on the spot, you get real answers without time to filter or overanalyze. Enjoy.

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Welcome And New Dad Chaos

Devin 0:09

Welcome to the Uncommon Man Podcast. We are your host. I'm Devin Jeffries, alongside a very good friend of mine, Mr. John Pierce. John, how are you, bud?

Jon 0:18

I'm good, man. How are you? I'm good.

Devin 0:20

How's the baby? Um, well, within an hour the other day of each other, I um I I picked her up and like I had her I had her head right here on my shoulder. And you know, as a father, there's that's to me that was a very I guess bonding type moment.

Jon 0:38

Okay.

Devin 0:39

And she just wrapped her arms around me and I just melted, right? Uh as one does. Yeah, and then I hear and then an explosion occurred. And um did it stay in the diaper? Uh negative. Oof. And uh it was running down the shirt. Your shirt? Oh, yeah, my shirt. Nice. And uh I look over and I was like, um, Brittany. Brittany just over there working on something. She goes, What? And I was like, we have a cobrown. And then she looks at me and she just busts out laughing. She laughs for a good 30 or 45 seconds before coming over there and picking the time bomb up. And then, you know, I don't think it's a time bomb anymore. It already exploded. Yeah, no, you're right. That's fair. And uh, so so anyway, so we we changed her. I changed shirts, and uh then Britney was like, Do you mind feeding her? So I did. And um, yeah, then she threw up all over that shirt, and I was like, you know what, Blakely, let's take a minute. I was like, you're going over there for a little bit, so it's fun. Eat, sleep, poop, cry. That's all she does. It's a lot of fun.

Jon 1:52

In that order, in that order, yeah. Eat, sleep, poop, cry.

Devin 1:56

Yep, yeah, that's exactly it. So we're here now on episode 15. 15 whole episodes.

Jon 2:03

Yeah, man.

Devin 2:04

If you listen to all 15, you win something. A t-shirt at least. I don't know. We don't have t-shirts, don't we?

Jon 2:10

We don't say that. Um, um, maybe at some point we don't have t-shirts. What about a hug? Sure. All right, you want a hug. I'm not hugging you, Devin will. But sure.

Devin 2:21

I'm game for it. Anyways, um, John approached me with this idea for this podcast episode. And my very first thought was, what are you on? Like, I've I figured this is going to be absolutely atrocious. And then the more and more I thought about it, the more and more I was like, this is gonna be awesome. So here's what we're gonna do we're gonna kind of take a little bit of a break from the emotionally, spiritually deep.

Jon 2:52

Yeah, the thought was after those last two episodes, yeah. They're pretty, pretty deep, a little emotional. We'll do something fun and lighthearted.

Devin 3:02

Yeah,

Game Rules And Coffee Ritual

Devin 3:03

so something kind of fun and lighthearted. So we each have for each other five questions.

Jon 3:08

Really four, because we're both gonna ask one question.

Devin 3:11

And neither one of us know as we sit here recording this what the other person's going to ask. Um and then you get one bounce back.

Jon 3:20

This is a game of questions. So you don't know the questions I'm gonna ask, like you just said, and I don't know what you're gonna ask, except for the first one, because we both wanted to ask that as we were discussing this. But if it at one point during my four questions, if you want to turn it around on me and me answer the question, you can, but you only get to do it once.

Devin 3:44

Okay. So now I don't know what the questions are. Correct.

Jon 3:47

That's gonna be it's like a game show.

Devin 3:48

So you've got to time that right. Well, I mean as far as which one you're gonna do.

Jon 3:52

Yeah, just pick one and be like you're gonna be like, dang, I wish I picked that one no matter what.

Devin 3:57

Are we allowed to ask more questions to your questions? So, like am I allowed to ask for parameters?

Jon 4:05

Yeah, a couple of mine are like a question with like an A and a B. Okay.

Devin 4:10

All right, that's fine. So none of mine have that, by the way. Like what and why? Okay, all right, that's fair. Um, and then yes, we are here with our coffee today. Um, this is actually the second time we had to um that we hit record on this episode because we started it and then I looked down and I just hit the big red button and canceled everything. I was like, absolutely not. John's staring at me like, what the heck are you doing? I'm like, we don't have coffee. This is not gonna work.

Jon 4:35

I was like, that's why I can't think straight. Episode 15, and we still don't have a coffee sponsor. Caffeine is a drug.

SPEAKER_00 4:41

We still don't have a coffee sponsorship.

Jon 4:43

I'm addicted to caffeine, I think.

Devin 4:44

That's fine.

Jon 4:46

It's only 15 episodes. No one has a sponsorship from anything by 15 episodes.

Devin 4:51

I'm just saying I want a coffee sponsorship.

Jon 4:54

Go find one, buddy.

Devin 4:56

Remember, Kingdom Beans. Message them again. All right, so let's just jump in here.

Jon 5:03

Question number one.

Devin 5:04

Let's do that. Do you want to go first or do I get to go first?

Jon 5:06

Yeah, well, we're both gonna ask this question. Okay. All right. It's

Deserted Island Books And Movies

Jon 5:09

the the classic deserted island scenario. You're on a deserted island for an indefinite amount of time alone. Um, you get three movies and three books, not including the Bible, because we both are gonna carry that. We both know we're gonna take that one. So, really, four books. What are they?

Devin 5:30

For my books. The books and three movies. Uh okay, so I'm not an avid reader, but uh there are some books that I've read that I I truly do uh enjoy. And one of them, now this would be kind of a mute point, so I'm just gonna kind of go with my my favorite here. But the very first one is, and no, it is not because I'm an Alabama fan. It is because I truly believe in this man's leadership model, but it's the leadership secrets of Nick Saban. I would take that. I think that that book is so well written with a lot of his uh mentalities of how he orchestrated truly one of the greatest dynasties that the sports world has ever seen. Um, so but if I'm on a deserted island, I have nobody to lead except myself. So valid. Uh you know, there's I think you have to assume you're gonna be there for the rest of your life. So this is true. This is true. So uh that would be one of my books. Um you'd still take it. Yeah, I would still take it. Because you just like reading it, just because it's a good read. Okay. Um maybe I should read it. So uh the the second one that I would have to go with as far as my books goes. Um, I would have to go with a book I actually just finished reading not too too long ago called Emotionally Healthy Spiritual Spirituality. Um, and if you'll give me just a second, I can tell you who the author is. But um Emotionally Healthy Spirituality is actually one that I was reading when you and I were praying over this uh this podcast. And it for me, what it helped me to do was really to see um how's how to be more spiritually, I guess, intact and spiritually whole. And to look at what's beneath the surface, if that makes sense. Um Peter Sceter Schizaro is the is the author. Very, very good book. Um, probably one of one of my top reads. It's it's a difficult read, uh, no question, but it's a good one. And then the final one I would read or I would take would be um uh it's by Dietrich Bonhoffer. And it's um, oh my gosh, why is it leaving me right now? The cost of discipleship. And uh just a very I know so I I mean I got a sports one, a personal one, and then uh I guess a um a spiritual one, but that one to me, I read that back in college for the first time, and it was an absolutely phenomenal book. So uh really talks about what it actually takes to not just be in relationship with Jesus, but to be with Jesus and how that can look in our lives. So those would be my three books and the movies.

SPEAKER_00 8:44

I gotta go with those now, too.

Devin 8:46

Yeah, three books and three movies. Okay.

Jon 8:48

All right, so this is where you get to um the rules are simple.

Devin 8:52

Yeah, never followed rules.

Jon 8:53

So was the question.

Devin 8:54

Okay. Um, the first one uh that I would absolutely have to take. So I would you be surprised if I told you I have a kid's movie in this? No. The Lion King.

Jon 9:08

I've put zero thought into this until right now, but I'll probably have a kid's movie in mind. Okay.

Devin 9:13

Uh The Lion King.

Jon 9:14

Okay.

Devin 9:15

It was a childhood favorite. Always like could literally sit down and quote it word for word. I was about to ask you why, but if it's something you just watch as a kid, then you're not going to be able to do always watched it. Uh have introduced my daughter to it and um was absolutely heartbroken when she said she didn't want to watch that. She wanted to watch Monsters Inc.

Jon 9:35

So um it is objectively a better movie.

Devin 9:40

I will come across No, no, no.

Jon 9:41

I say that as a kid that also watched a lot of Lanky. We're talking about the the older 90s version of the newer live live version.

Devin 9:49

Would it come out in like the early 90s? Yes, yeah, 92, I believe. The the new one, the the remade that they did that absolutely sucked. I hated that movie. I'm not a fan of that director.

Jon 10:01

Um I don't know who the director was, but the movie sucked.

Devin 10:03

The movie was downright terrible.

Jon 10:05

If you disagree with that, well fight me on it.

Devin 10:08

Let's go. But you have the right to be wrong. Listen, I'll that's right. It is your right to be wrong. But I will put it to you this way I will never forget being so excited for a movie to come out that when it came out, I legitimately I so I was a youth pastor at the time. And I took the students and I was like, we're going to see the Lion King. And absolutely nobody was more pumped than me, the student pastor. And I left and I was like, everybody get in the car, we're done. We're gone. Because I was ticked. It was a bad movie. It was horribly done. All right, next step. Um the the next one, I would have to go The Matrix. Mm-hmm. Because that is that is a series, I don't care what you say, from start to finish, is one of the best series that's ever been made. You know that I would agree with that. You know how they say, like uh, like if the first one's really good, oh, the next movie's gonna suck, the third one's even worse, or whatever. Fast and Furious. Yes, very okay. The first one of those were better, but regardless. I think it was like the first four of Fast and Furious. After that, it was terrible.

Jon 11:16

I would give it three. You didn't like Tokyo? That was the third one. Was that third?

Devin 11:21

Yeah. Okay, so fine. After the first three, then after the first three, it was terrible. The series absolutely stunk. Yeah, it's terrible. From there. Anyway, when we're launching cars out of planes, that's that's wrong. No. Yeah, so The Matrix. Um, it's where the world got introduced to Keanu Reeves. And probably, like I said, my favorite series from start to finish. And then my final movie that I what wait a second. If I'm on a deserted island, you have a TV. I have a TV on how do I have power? I don't know. I have questions.

Jon 11:59

I don't know. Um you got some lemons, and you made yeah, you can make electricity with like lemons or something like that. Yeah. That like fifth grade science experiment. Yeah.

Devin 12:14

Um I would probably have to go my favorite war movie of all time, which is Save and Providen.

Jon 12:23

Alright. Here's a twist that I didn't tell you about. Oh crap. You can replace one book and one movie with a series. If I can replace a movie with a series, uh not a not a TV show. I mean like a movie series. I mean like a movie series. You can't take a whole seven seasons of a TV show.

Devin 12:46

Why can't I not movie series?

Jon 12:48

Why can I not ditch the question movie?

Devin 12:50

And give me the ten seasons of Friends. No. Movie series. Alright, so if I'm going a full movie series, then I'm probably, even though I feel like ditch the matrix and give me the full trilogy series.

Jon 13:10

Okay, that's fair. Book?

Devin 13:14

You said you I know you're not really an avid reader, so you probably there is one that I really like, but I don't necessarily enjoy saying I'm not I'm gonna give the the G-rated version of the actual name of the book. Um, but I would probably sub out the leadership secrets for a book called The Subtle Art of Not Giving Not Giving a Crap. Oh, yeah, yeah. I would probably sub it out for that one. I haven't read that. That's a I really if you can get past the language, obviously, because I mean it sets the record for the number of times the F bomb has dropped, but I I just I really liked it from the practicality standpoint. Uh the author of it made a lot of sense. So the subtle art of not giving a crap. All right. And I actually think he did let out like a G-rated version or something like that. I'm gonna look and see. Okay. Yours, your your three books and three movies.

Jon 14:19

My turn. Okay, so normally I am not a nonfiction reader. I would I'll read things like The Power of Habits, one of my favorite books. I've listened to the audiobook like a hundred times. The power of habit, um some of Jordan Peterson stuff. I like I like reading things that make me think, make me figure out things about myself, learn things about myself, learn things about philosophy or whatever. Uh Marcus Aurelius is the quote unquote last good Roman Emperor. He's um his journal is has been turned into a book. That's kind of interesting to read. But it's like some stoicism stuff. Anyway, I like reading stuff like that. It's interesting. Okay. But I don't want to read it over and over again and only have three. So I'm probably not gonna take anything nonfiction because it's not gonna help me.

Devin 15:17

Okay.

Jon 15:18

So that being said, I would take if I gonna if I can only pick one, I'll I'll have to pick a one of the Harry Potter books. One of the because it's no, because it is rereadability. We're looking for re-watchability and rereadability.

unknown 15:37

Why am I not surprised?

Jon 15:39

So I would pick one of the Harry Potter books.

Devin 15:41

I've it's just a series that I I never You're stuck on a deserted island.

Jon 15:47

You might as well be entertained.

Devin 15:49

Fair enough. Continue.

Jon 15:51

The Lord of the Rings.

Devin 15:53

Yeah, that tracks too.

Jon 15:55

I don't even like the Lord of the Rings books, but it's a good story.

Devin 15:58

That tracks too. Yeah.

Jon 16:00

Like I would never sit down and choose to read that. But I could read it multiple times. Does that make sense?

Devin 16:07

Yes, it does. I read it once and said, thank god I don't ever have to read that again. I know I just made somebody mad out there, and I uh sorry, not sorry, it just wasn't my cup.

Jon 16:18

Yeah, it's not everybody's cup everybody's cup of tea. I don't typically like books like that. Or even movies generally. I'll watch them, but that's not my cup of tea. I love nonfiction stuff.

SPEAKER_00 16:32

Okay.

Jon 16:33

And my third one. I don't know. It would probably it probably honestly would just be I don't know, pick a sci-fi book or another Harry Potter book or something like that. Now, to flip my what I flipped on you back, I would probably just take the whole Harry Potter series.

SPEAKER_00 16:54

Father in Heaven. Okay.

Jon 16:56

It's actually it's uh have you ever read it?

Devin 16:59

The Harry Potter series? Yeah. No.

Jon 17:02

Okay, so I read the significantly book. There's a reason it's so popular. There's it's significantly better than the movies. Significantly.

Devin 17:13

I mean, I I'll take your word for it. It was just never a thing that I I cared about. Now my wife's family. Same. I got really into it after I started reading it. I was like, this is really good. My wife's family, fun fact, she was not allowed to watch or read any of the Harry Potter stuff because it had witchcraft.

Jon 17:31

Yeah, same. I didn't read it until I was 25. Or something like that. I could watch Bewitched. Couldn't watch Harry Potter.

Devin 17:41

That makes all the sense in the world when you don't think about it.

Jon 17:45

Alright. Um, my third book. You know, I think I still would take uh Marcus Aurelius meditations. Okay. I think I still would take that. Because it is it is rereadable. It's not gonna help me. Actually, no, it might. I was gonna say there's definitely areas it could. Because the you have to be careful when you start reading stuff about philosophy because it can very easily contradict the Bible. Sure. Like have a Bible also pointing out. That's right. But um I I think I would still take that. Because my mindset would probably be in the dumps, and a little stoicism might help me out there.

Devin 18:28

You know, me on a deserted island is literally like a huge, deep, dark fear of mine because I'm such a people person, I would be miserable. I will literally be begging for God to let sharks start talking to me.

Jon 18:43

Alright. Movies. We're going for rewatchability here. They're not necessarily one of them is my favorite movie of all time. They're not necessarily my favorite movies. Okay, Forrest Gump. Favorite movie of all time. Okay, solid. Very, very solid. Thousands of Easter eggs in that movie.

Devin 19:02

Jenny. All right, go ahead.

Jon 19:03

I love I love me some Forrest Gump. Yes. All right. Yes, I'm one, it has great special effects, it has a great story, and it's like three hours long interstellar.

SPEAKER_00 19:18

Oh man, I haven't seen that in a very long time.

Jon 19:20

But I watched the beginning of it and the end of it the other day. Solid pick. I slept in the middle. Alright, and third one I'm gonna have to agree with you on the Matrix.

SPEAKER_00 19:31

Really?

Jon 19:32

Yeah.

Devin 19:34

Well, look at us. One night we'll get together and grill some burgers and see who can dodge bullets. You first. Okay. Uh just such a great series from from start to finish.

Jon 19:50

Now that we got that one out of the way. Yeah.

Devin 19:53

You go first. Oh my, I'm going first. All right. Why

Advice To Your 18-Year-Old Self

Devin 19:56

not? If you could go back and give your 18-year-old self one piece of advice, what would it be?

Jon 20:02

Oh, only one? Yep. Man, I have like 50. That's the best one. Man, but see, some advice I would give to my 18-year-old self would significantly significantly change some things in my life, possibly for the better, but also some really good things, my kids, for instance, that have happened may not have happened. Sure. Right. So one piece of advice. This requires a little bit of why while you're thinking a little bit.

Devin 20:37

I would I would also just say this the I it's it's really one of those things that we can look back and we can say, okay, I would do this, this, and this differently. And a lot of people say that about their lives. But here's the thing if those things those things happen to help shape who you are today. So to be mad and to hate yourself for, you know, to hate 18-year-old John or to be mad at that person or whatever is is really irrelevant because it's it's helped shape you to who you are today.

Jon 21:06

Yeah. So I don't think I would necessarily try to do anything, like tell myself to do something different, I don't think. Because I don't like there's things about my life right now I wish were different, sure. Sure. But you know, is what it is, can't change it. And if I did change it, it would change other things, like I said. So I think I would there was a period there where I was out of church, to say the least. A little bit of a rebellious streak there. Sure. To some extent. Not terrible, like I wasn't doing drugs or anything, but you know, a little bit of a rebellious streak there. So I think and that's this being said, I wouldn't listen to myself anyway, because I was a cocky, arrogant little turd turd. Yeah. But I would tell myself, like, hey, you you need you need to go back to church. Sure. Find a church, go to read your Bible. It's important.

unknown 21:57

Okay.

Jon 21:58

I'd probably just tell myself that.

SPEAKER_00 22:00

Okay. I like it.

Jon 22:02

Alright.

What A Stranger Thinks After Lunch

Jon 22:05

If someone, this is a bit of a long question. Okay. If someone just met you and had a 30-minute lunch with you, what would they say about you afterwards? Context, this is not business related or anything like that. It's a random person and you have zero mutual acquaintances. It is a random person off the street. They're not homeless.

unknown 22:28

Okay.

Jon 22:30

What would they say about me? Mm-hmm. If they had a 30-minute lunch with you and someone said, What'd you think about that guy? What would they say?

Devin 22:39

Why did I only get to talk for one minute and he talked for 29? Hey, at least you know yourself. I do. But honestly, here's a what I believe wouldn't what I would hope would be said was that um he was he was very like obviously my passion for the things in my life that I am passionate about literally pours out of me. So I I'm just like I'm very passionate about certain things and whenever I am, that bleeds into other into how I carry myself. So they would they would say he's passionate. I think they would say um he's got it, he's that that I've got a big heart because uh one of the things that I have always said about me uh for a very long time, and it's a blessing and a cursing, is whenever I care, I care a lot. When I love, I love deep. And that means that when you know knives get put in backs or uh things go south or whatever, it hurts that much worse. So that's why it's a blessing and a cursing. So I think they would say he's a passionate.

Jon 23:55

You get emotionally attached to people easily? Question mark.

Devin 23:58

Uh no, no, not emotionally attached because I know where to draw the line.

Jon 24:02

Uh, emotionally attached is the wrong phrase. That's not quite what it meant.

Devin 24:09

I do get I know where you're going with that, and but I do still know where to draw lines. That said, I'm not going to change certain areas about me. I believe that me having a big heart is just something that's that's just the way the Lord made me.

Jon 24:26

Um like some people are super duper empathetic. Yeah. And the two-edged sword.

Devin 24:31

Yeah, I am very empathetic. Yeah. Uh so I I think that that would that would probably be the be the biggest things is why didn't I get to talk? And that he um that it that he was passionate and somebody with a big heart.

Jon 24:45

Would they say you're passionate about something or just passionate in general? Just passionate in general.

Devin 24:51

Because whenever I talk, and and I know this about me, but I mean, like whenever I talk, I'm I I talk in a way that shows and that says I care. I actually care about the person I'm sitting across from. I don't it's it's just it's a habit to me. I I guess at this point in my life, I I genuinely care about the people I sit down with and and that I talk to. Now that said, I if if they're coming to me with a laundry list of problems, I'll help them with their laundry list of problems. But guess what? I'm still gonna give you the laundry basket back, and you're gonna take your problems with you. I'm not taking your problems with me. So then that and that's one area that I would say I I agree the most in. So all right. Good question. Your turn. Oh, all right, let's go funny.

The Most Old Man Moment

Devin 25:38

What is the most old man thing that you have done recently? That I've done recently, yeah. Like, like you did this and you went, Oh god, I've become my father. Or you you've become an old man or whatever like that. I'm not saying your dad's old. I don't know how old your dad is, but he's old.

Jon 25:56

Okay. He's listening to this too. Hey dad. Um he'll he'll be 73 this summer.

Devin 26:03

My dad's 74, so yeah, my dad's old too.

Jon 26:05

Yeah. He'll be he'll be he'll be 73 in June.

Devin 26:09

But my dad won't my my dad won't be listening unless his part's in a clip.

Jon 26:13

I won't put it in a clip. So actually, no, I will, so he can hear you telling him he's old.

Devin 26:17

Well, I mean, that's fine, but here, true story, this is absolutely hilarious. My dad calls me one time after we talked about the work-life balance episode. My dad calls me and he says, Hey, I just saw your podcast. And I said, Really? I didn't think you even knew how to find the podcast. And he goes, Yeah. And I gotta say, I don't know that I that I entirely agree with that. And I said, What are you talking about? And he goes, Well, you said that we weren't just put on this earth to make money and die, but our jobs and our work can be a ministry. I said, Dad, how did you listen to this? He goes, Well, it came across my Instagram, and I said, How long was what you watched? And he goes, Oh, I don't know, about 20 or 30 seconds. I said, That's a real. And then I said, Here, go to this page, listen to a whole daggum episode. And then he did, and then uh I never heard from him again about it. So um, I need you to not put that in a clip, otherwise he will find that. So, anyhow, so yeah, what is the most old man thing you've done?

Jon 27:21

I can't think of anything that I've done recently. Are we talking like excited about getting a new washer and dryer kind of old man thing?

Devin 27:33

Or no, that is that is an old man thing, but that's not really what I'm going with.

Jon 27:39

Okay, what are you talking about?

Devin 27:40

Give me an example. So um the get off my lawn guy, the um I don't care if people are on my lawn. You oh no, disagree. I was gonna say that's mine. Um don't turn this question back on me. But anyways, uh yeah, you got excited because somebody got you uh a a new a pack of socks or something along those lines. Like old man stuff. Like I mean, this was at Christmas.

Jon 28:18

No, it was before Christmas. Some somewhere in sometime in December, I I did get some new socks and I was pretty excited about it. That's I mean, that was a little while back. I don't recall anything recent quite like that though.

Devin 28:31

Uh but what's funny is like when you're a kid and you get underwear or socks for Christmas and you throw it behind you and you're like, screw that noise. I don't want any of that.

Jon 28:38

Well, see, I only get excited about socks now because I I used to be a black ankle sock guy. I wore black ankle socks, period. Funny all the time. Now I you wear funny socks. I wear anything, I try to make it not match whatever I'm wearing.

Devin 28:56

Oh, that's beautiful.

Jon 28:57

Like I try to make it as insane as possible.

Devin 28:59

Yeah, but see, now men our age, we get socks and underwear, and we're like, yes!

Jon 29:05

Like my church, my church socks. I call them my church socks. This is a really bad joke. I'm sorry ahead of time. They're my church socks. I mean, they're gray, but they have fruit on them. Fruit and spirit. They're my church socks.

Devin 29:19

All right. Um, so so you you you're just not gonna answer the question. I mean, or or is it is I think it was I think it was the socks. I can't recall any more. No, I didn't.

Jon 29:30

I was just trying to see if that's where you're going with it. But I can't think of anything more recent than that, honestly. Okay. There might have been something. Laura might disagree. I don't know.

unknown 29:40

Okay.

Jon 29:41

I can't think of anything off the top of my head other than the socks that was in like December sometime. I don't think it was for Christmas, but I got some new socks in December. You got pumped about some socks. No, it was for Christmas. There were Scooby-Doo socks. Yep. I got a pack of Laura got me a pack of Scooby-Doo socks for Christmas.

Devin 29:59

You got pumped for it.

Jon 30:00

I was excited about the socks, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:04

Okay.

Jon 30:06

My turn.

What Really Drives You Daily

Jon 30:08

What drives you every day and why? Like what what gets you what gets you? I don't know. I guess what gets you out of bed? My girls.

SPEAKER_00 30:20

My wife. My daughters. Hands down. I don't even need to think about this one.

Devin 30:26

My girls are why I get up and do what I do every single day. Because at the end of every single day, don't nobody care how tired I am, don't nobody care how stressed out I am. The mortgage company doesn't care. What matters is do my girls have what they need in their lives?

Jon 30:41

I phrased this question wrong. I should have known you were gonna say that, obviously. Okay. Let's change the scenario just a little bit. Can I re-ask it? Yeah, sure. I'll because that's a that's kind of a gimme. Um if you were single, what would get you out of bed every day? Like what what I'm getting at, I guess, is what are what's something that would you would be excited about? What's something you could do in your life that you would be excited about doing every day? Like a career? Doesn't matter. Because there is a career that I've always I'm not super excited about my current career. I'm excited about all of the other things I do. That's what gets me out of bed. And the fact that I have to be at work, but beside the point.

Devin 31:30

Yeah, I'm pretty passionate about money and um or not money, but being able to afford food. So I mean it's a bonus. Yeah, eating eating every now and then is nice. Um I saw that the other day. It was like interviewer, why do you want this job of me? Well, I'm pretty pretty passionate about being able to afford food.

Jon 31:48

So I do like my job. I mean, let me say this. I do like my job. I like my job quite a bit. I'm not necessarily passionate about low voltage electronics. Right.

Devin 31:59

I like it.

Jon 31:59

Don't get me wrong. I like it a lot. I'm not passionate about it.

Devin 32:03

So I I would I would honestly say what would what got me out of my bed even before all of that was I wanted to accomplish things in my life that would that would I mean I knew I was called to ministry at 15. Like I've known mo my entire adult life that God had a very unique or or he had a purpose for my life. And um I knew early on it was to help people. So truthfully, what always got me out of the bed was the option and the ability to be able to help people. So I it's just something that I that I love to do to to the feeling and the joy that I get to be able to be a blessing in somebody else's life is truly uh it's something that that that gets me going. It's I guess it's it's a it's it is a deep-rooted passionate of mine, but uh I mean I've never cared about being a millionaire, I've never cared about any of those things. It's to me it's it's literally been that. Uh I've just been passionate about helping people, but also I wanted to go and do things that nobody in my family had ever done. Um and I mean some of my family had graduated college, you know. I had a brother that I have a brother that's a chef, I have another brother that graduated of community college. I think my sister I don't think she ever finished college, but I actually completed a four-year degree. And um that was that was a big accomplishment for me. So it was accomplishments drove drove me for the longest. I'm sure that sounds incredibly selfish, but it's it's kind of have and have like accomplishments drove me, but helping people drove me.

Jon 34:01

So you you were driven by both at the same time, you said yeah. That would be interesting to dive into at some point. That was the kind of answer I was looking for there, though. So thank you.

SPEAKER_00 34:12

Well, you're welcome.

Jon 34:13

It's your turn.

Devin 34:14

Um

Secret Joys And The Bounce Back

Devin 34:19

What is something you secretly enjoy that younger you would judge?

Jon 34:27

How young, how much younger? How old are you now? 32. 33 when this comes out, actually. 18 to 25. 18 to 25? Yeah, like yeah, or 15. I don't know. Well it's 15 to 20. 15 to 20 year old John. 15 year old me and 25 year old here. 25-year-old me are two very different people. Okay, younger you, half your current age. Half, okay. We'll say 16. Um you secretly enjoy an activity?

SPEAKER_00 35:00

Sure.

Jon 35:01

Or a thing, or sure. Doesn't matter. Probably art museums.

Devin 35:12

Whatever, whatever footage about big guy. I'm here for it, but that's just that is not something that that no, mm-mm. Museums, all that. Mm-mm. No, I'm good.

Jon 35:26

All right. Oh, I'm gonna flip that one back on you, actually.

Devin 35:30

Oh, there it is.

Jon 35:31

Yeah, we'll go with that one.

Devin 35:33

Uh so something that I secretly enjoy that younger me would absolutely judge.

SPEAKER_00 35:46

Dang sure ain't art museums, I promise you that.

Devin 35:50

Um I was worried you were gonna do that with this one, and I knew I was like, man, if he does, I'm not gonna have a good answer.

Jon 36:01

That's kind of the whole point. You get to see the thought process.

Devin 36:05

Yeah, so I mean, I think like because I mean, my so for example, my taste in music, sports, movies, all that has all pretty much stayed the same.

Jon 36:17

Um I would say same for me, actually. The only difference through three things. Actually, no, sports I used to really love when I was 16. I was playing football. Now I'm just like, I don't, I don't care.

Devin 36:29

Yeah. Um, whereas, see, like younger me, I liked country music and you know, like I liked a little bit of rap, not a whole lot. But I have never liked country music. And now I just despise all rap and I hate country music. All right, we're on the same page at least. Country music has absolutely taken a crap. And it was always crap, and it is terrible now.

Jon 36:52

Um still haven't answered the question.

Devin 36:55

I I know because I'm trying to work through it. Like most of most of those things have all stayed the same for me.

Jon 37:01

Find something else. So uh something that I enjoy. It could be a food or an activity.

Devin 37:13

That younger me would judge.

Jon 37:15

Floating around in the lake on a boat. I don't know.

Devin 37:18

You know what? That's actually probably the most accurate.

Jon 37:22

You think?

Devin 37:23

I was just kidding. No, actually, tr truthfully, that's that's it. If you were to ask me today, what do you want to do this weekend? The weather's perfect, the water's great, what do you want to do? I would tell you, I want to go put the boat in the water. I want to go to a slough where nobody is, and the water's barely moving, so I don't even have to drop an anchor. I want to get my happy butt in the lake, and I don't want to move. That's what I would tell you. I want to sit there and float for the next eight hours and be a happy freaking man.

Jon 38:00

Alright, so here's the next question then. Who is

Childhood Heroes And Heroes Now

Jon 38:03

your childhood hero? Why, and who are your heroes today?

unknown 38:08

Oh.

Devin 38:10

Deep. But similar to my last question for you. My childhood heroes were growing up. Um, well, naturally I loved I mean any movie that or anything that Keanu Reeves ever did because of the Matrix. Like I I wouldn't say he was a hero, but he was somebody that I was like, yes.

Jon 38:37

Who's somebody that was a hero then? Like you really looked up to and respected.

Devin 38:41

Could be Batman. Are we are we going like public figure or are we going like doesn't matter. Okay, well, I never I mean I was Batman one year for for Halloween whenever I was like eight.

Jon 38:54

But um Okay, but did you like spend your early life trying to become Batman because you really looked up to him?

Devin 39:02

Like yeah, no. Um well, I would say probably one of my very first heroes. This is probably the biggest dorky thing I would say, I would say about me, but I was because anime today I'm not into, but whenever I was growing up, I would absolutely sit down all day long and watch Dragon Ball Z. And so Goku was like my first like childhood hero.

Jon 39:27

Why?

Devin 39:28

Because the only thing. Yeah, I just I love the show. I never today or no. I'm a dork. Yeah, that was that's my biggest dorky thing.

Jon 39:38

I've never watched that in my life, and I never will. Right, nor do I know what the heck Pokemon is. I never got into Pokemon, it's cards. Drew loves it.

Devin 39:49

I never got into it.

Jon 39:50

I'll talk about it with him all day or let him talk about it because I don't know what he's talking about. But right, right. I try.

Devin 39:56

Talk to him about okay.

Jon 39:57

And who are your heroes today?

Devin 39:59

Um today I would have to say John Pierce. No, I'm just kidding. Um really? Nothing. I figured at least a chuckle at it.

Jon 40:14

I saw that one coming.

Devin 40:15

Did you?

Jon 40:15

Yeah, from a mile away.

Devin 40:19

I don't have very many like heroes or people that I look up to and and idolise. I would say there's a handful. Well, not idolise. Yeah, no, not I dang sure don't idolize anybody. Uh as far as like a hero to me today.

Jon 40:40

And it could be somebody, it could be somebody that or someone or people that you look up to for specific reasons, but not necessarily for other reasons. Like you look up to them for certain aspects of them.

Devin 40:55

So I would I would honestly have to say there is one that has has never wavered. He has always been a hero to me. And that is my father.

Jon 41:04

That's awesome.

Devin 41:05

Um, I have always had a very good relationship with with him, and I have told him many, many times I am the man I am today because of you. You taught me everything in a that that it means to be a man. You taught me what it means to never give up. You taught me what it means. You instilled things inside of me that I bring out today as a parent that I had not thought about in 30 years or 20 years. Things the lessons that I had, you know, whenever whenever I was growing up. Um I can remember one of them with my dad being uh he had a role because my love for the lake uh did come from my childhood. But I wanted to go out and go play. I didn't want to just sit there and float all day. Um but one of the things that my dad taught me was was the responsibility. If you want to go to the lake, the boat has to be cleaned, the camper needs to be ready, and this is what we're gonna do. And if it wasn't ready, when dad got home Friday afternoon from work, we didn't go. So he taught me responsibility and he taught me consequences. I bring that out today in how I parent my three-year-old. You didn't go sit down whenever daddy told you to go sit down. You don't get cartoons right now. Life has consequences. Um, so I would say my dad has always been a hero to me. Um, probably one of my first heroes uh was his dad, was my grandfather. Um tragically lost him whenever I was in college, but uh yeah, that was it. And then I am living proof, or I actually met one of my childhood heroes. Um he was a famous Alabama quarterback. I will not say who because he's a local guy, but I met him one day in Tuscaloosa at uh at an A-day event, at an Alabama football event, and the dude was the biggest jerk on the planet. And I remember like, don't meet your heroes. And he was the one that I was just like, dad gummit, man. I really liked this dude. He was a heck of a football player. He always gave great media interviews, he was a great dude. This this is a good guy. Met him in Tuscaloosa, could not have been a bigger jack wagon that day.

Jon 43:39

I mean, sounds about right. Um there's no way you know who those people are behind the curtain. Any anyone, anyone in the public eye like that. No, they're completely different people than who you actually see most of most of the time. And then some sometimes for good, sometimes. For not.

Devin 44:00

But I would say probably my biggest uh somebody that I look up to today in terms of a leadership person is obviously Nick Saban. Last question.

Dream Dinner Guests Living And Dead

Devin 44:09

If you could have dinner with anyone, living and dead. Living and dead or dead? Like you get two people. Oh. You get two people here. Oh. One has to be alive today. Okay. And one can be dead. Who would it be?

Jon 44:26

It doesn't have to be a certain time period or no.

Devin 44:29

And you can't say Jesus. Why? Cause it's against the rules.

Jon 44:35

Fine. Probably the Apostle Paul. So we're between a founding father, let's just say George Washington, I guess. One of them. Thomas Jefferson. Thomas Jefferson. Or Paul. I don't know. I think I'd have to go with Paul. Till of the Hunt would be really cool. That'd probably a good meal.

Devin 45:01

Okay. Yeah.

Jon 45:02

I'm gonna go with Paul. Alright, that's fine. Alright, and alive. Well uh I was gonna say Putin.

Devin 45:12

But not what I would have thought for you. Wow.

Jon 45:16

Yeah. I mean, I want to know what the heck's going on in that dude's brain. It's very broken.

Devin 45:22

Um is it?

Jon 45:24

Is it? I mean, I don't agree with literally anything, but like, why does he do the things he does? I I'd like to have a conversation with the guy. Anyway, probably not him though, because I'm just gonna get who knows what I'm gonna get. Judo rolled, probably, is what I'm gonna get.

SPEAKER_00 45:42

Most likely.

Jon 45:42

Um gosh, I don't know. I can tell you who my dad there's not Jordan Peterson, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 45:50

Jordan Peterson.

Jon 45:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:53

I wanna know that.

Jon 45:53

Why is it like he's wrote a bunch of books? Seriously. Not really popular, but had a fairly popular podcast till I got sick last year.

Devin 46:04

Okay. Psychologist. Twelve rules for life. Yeah. We feel like you could have done better in terms of your picking there for who's alive, but nope.

Jon 46:16

Okay. That he is one of the most brilliant minds on this planet.

Devin 46:19

Can't believe I'm not somebody you would want to.

Jon 46:20

He is one of the I'd rather not. He's one of the most brilliant minds on this planet, hands down.

Devin 46:27

Sure.

unknown 46:27

Yeah.

Devin 46:28

I I know who you're talking about. It came back to me, but yeah.

Jon 46:32

Like somebody like Elon Musk would be cool. Sure. Trump. He's paying for it. Would be cool.

Devin 46:38

Right. So he's paying for what? But and I am ordering the most expensive thing on that menu.

Jon 46:46

But like I don't feel like the conversation with Elon Musk would be as interesting to me as it would be. Sure. I don't want to ask him how to grow my photography business.

Devin 46:58

Yeah, no. No, no, no, no.

Jon 47:00

Right? Like, I don't I'd rather talk to Jordan Peterson.

SPEAKER_00 47:04

All right, that's fair.

Jon 47:05

Trump's Trump would just do like accordion hands the whole time.

Devin 47:10

You're so not wrong, and use like the most hyperbolic words possible.

Jon 47:15

And you're what are you talking about?

Devin 47:18

There's a guy on the church staff at Cultivate. Oh, I know. Shout out Ben Bracken. That man does the best Trump impersonation I've ever heard.

Jon 47:29

I have it on video and it has been on the Facebook page.

Devin 47:32

God, it's fantastic.

Jon 47:33

Anyways. You still have one more question to answer.

Devin 47:36

Do I really?

Jon 47:37

Mm-hmm. Because you went first.

SPEAKER_00 47:38

Okay, I'm so sorry. Please go ahead.

Jon 47:41

What's

A Hot Take On Personal Responsibility

Jon 47:42

something that most people would disagree with you on? A hot take, if you will.

Devin 47:47

A lot of our problems and our lives are our own dagum fault. And the biggest problem we have as a society is we want to blame everybody else for our own crap. When in reality, if you would just grow the heck up, we wouldn't have some of these problems.

Jon 48:03

So you think people would disagree with you on that?

Devin 48:06

Yeah, because everybody wants to be either selfish or um it's everybody else's fault, not mine.

Jon 48:14

I think people would agree with you, but then turn around and still make it everyone else's problem. So like they they'll tell you you should just own up to your crap while they're blaming you for their own crap while they're blaming you for something they did. They're blaming you for something they did and telling you that you should own up to your own actions. And I'm like, it's your actions. Yeah. Right?

Devin 48:40

But so so I think that would probably have to be it. Um as far as like if we're if we're going in all seriousness, I would say that the majority of the problems you have are our own daggum fault. And the question needs to be, what do I need to do to be better, to be different, to be uncommon, so to speak.

Jon 48:57

Well,

One Last Answer And Closing CTA

Jon 48:58

since we're at the end here and you didn't make me answer one of my own questions. Dad gummit, I didn't pick one. All right. Um do you remember the questions? No. Okay. Someone just met you, 30 minute lunch. What drives you every day? Childhood hero, today's hero, something most people would disagree with you on.

Devin 49:18

Let's go with uh the first one.

Jon 49:21

Someone just met you and had a 30-minute lunch with you.

Devin 49:23

Yeah.

Jon 49:24

Alright. If it's somebody I don't know, and we're just randomly sitting at a table together, I'd probably be kind of quiet and reserved to some extent. Unless I just had a ridiculous amount of caffeine. So um they would probably say I'm quiet and reserved. Depending on where the conversation went, they might say I'm passionate. Because I'm not in I'm not in general a passionate person. I'm very passionate about certain things.

SPEAKER_03 49:52

Yeah.

Jon 49:54

Um again, depending on where the conversation went, because it's only 30 minutes. They might say this guy loves his family. Or this guy's biggest goal in life is to grow the kingdom of God. Yeah. Something like that. Again, it depends on where the conversation goes. It depends on yeah. It depends on where the conversation goes, really. But um it would be something something along those lines, I guess. Because realistically, I talk it ideally, right? I talk for 15 minutes. It's not really that long. We've been sitting here for probably like an hour at this point. I don't know. Feels like forever. Thanks, Devin. You're welcome. Just kidding. Anywho, uh, I guess that I guess that'll be it. All right.

SPEAKER_00 50:42

Good deal.

Jon 50:43

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