Episode 3: How To Turn Your Purpose Into a Scalable Business Model

Many people feel called to follow their purpose, but struggle with one big question: “How do they turn that purpose into a sustainable, profitable business?”

In Episode 03 of the SD Podcast, Stephanie Davila sits down with physical therapist turned entrepreneur Massimo D’Ambrosio to break down this question through his story.

After walking away from a “secure” government job and starting over later than most would risk, Massimo didn’t just build a company with 30+ therapists… he rebuilt himself under pressure.

And that’s where the real value is.

In this conversation, you’ll learn what it actually takes to turn your purpose into something that pays, the must-adopt principle that forces real progress, and how to move forward when uncertainty, doubt, and pressure hit all at once.

In this episode, you’ll discover:

• How to pivot out of a career that feels stuck and move into work that actually fits your purpose... without second-guessing every step.

• How to turn your toughest personal challenges into a clear direction for meaningful, fulfilling work.

• The “3 ruthless principles” that separate true leaders from the rest and how he’s built a 22-year business by living them every day.

• How to build deeper human connections that make you more valuable in your field, even as technology keeps advancing.

• How to communicate and connect more effectively with families facing real challenges, so you can create trust and lasting impact.

• How to use AI as a tool to grow your work, without losing the human element that makes you irreplaceable.

If you’re serious about turning your purpose into something that actually pays you, don’t skip this episode.

Real talk ahead:
This content shares genuine entrepreneur experiences, not professional advice. We're just being honest about building businesses and dealing with life. If you're struggling with serious mental health issues, please reach out to a qualified professional. We're all figuring this out together.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:01

Hello everyone, I'm Stephanie De Villa, and welcome to SD Podcast. Today I have a wonderful guest here, Massimo D'Ambrosio, straight from Rome, Italy. Thank you for coming, Massimo.

SPEAKER_01 0:15

I guess I'll introduce myself. My name is Massimo D'Ambrosio. I'm a I'm originally from Rome, Italy. I'm a physical therapist. I've been a physical therapist for the last 30 years. I started a company about uh 25 years ago, and we work with um developmentally disabled children and adults. So we get patients that are cerebral palsy, autism, down syndrome, spina bifida, and so on. And we provide physical, occupational and speech therapy in the homes, in private homes, group homes, day programs, and so forth.

SPEAKER_00 0:52

I love your your impact, the message, and uh the longevity. So I'm sure you've seen a little bit of everything throughout your lifetime and your career and your business. Talk to me a little bit about how you got in there and out of and what was the difference 20, 25 years ago as to comparison to now.

SPEAKER_01 1:12

So I um I went back to school to become a physical therapist because I kind of from my history, I was where I was working, I didn't like it too much. It wasn't a great period in my life. Um so I decided to go back to physical therapy. I was going through a divorce. And so I graduated, uh, worked in the home health field for a little bit. I also worked um for um a durable medical equipment company, and I got to work with uh developmentally disabled kids and adults, and that's the way I came into this field. And after that, I had my first child and I went part-time with that company, and then I started doing home health, and I decided to open my company and started providing services for the clients I was used to working with because I was doing wheelchairs, custom wheelchairs for them. So from then on, I started working on by myself initially, and then as a company, and then I started um getting referrals from coordinators and then started um hiring physical occupational and speech therapy. From then on, the company kind of grew. And and right now we basically provide services in the in our county.

SPEAKER_00 2:19

Okay, very well. And um, you you work with adults and with children, correct? Between adults and children, have you had a certain patron or story that really has impacted you or made a difference, marked a difference?

SPEAKER_01 2:33

Um, yeah, I I I do. I do. I think uh I early on I was doing everything. I was doing I was a business owner, I was doing evaluation, I was also doing treatments. So I was managing everything. Um and I did work for a for a for a family and they had one child, and the child um was born normal, um, without any deficits. And then around age three, four, he started developing, I started limping, it started deteriorating. And then by the time I started working with him, he was about eight or nine years old, and the child was already totally dependent on his caregivers, could not move, could not stand, um, could not talk anymore. And um, and that was their only child. So I could see the anguish um with their parents, right? Of course, and um, and also put life in perspective because um it taught me that you know, as long as you can walk, talk, and live lead a normal life, whether it's good or bad, yes, you should be lucky because it's not a guarantee. A lot of the kids that we work with um have a disability, they can't function on their own. Some of them are totally dependent. Um and it there and what it and the impact it has on their families. I mean, they're these parents become some some parents have one or more kids that are disabled and they're getting services. So it's it's you know, and you have a you have a uh a child that's disabled, that's the child for the rest of your life. They will never become independent. The majority of them will not come become independent.

SPEAKER_02 4:11

Right.

SPEAKER_01 4:11

And that's um it affects it affected me, but it affects also the parents.

SPEAKER_00 4:17

Yeah, I think I think you make a really good point there, Massimo, because a lot of people they focus on the patient, but the burden, the silent burden that families have to endure during this process because it's it's for the rest of their lives, correct? For the most part.

SPEAKER_01 4:33

Yeah, it is. And it's you know, as a physical therapist, it's not just going in there and just you know, providing physical therapy, it also entails public relations, interacting with the family, understanding their anguish, uh, and having empathy in what they're going through. Um, and a lot of times you have to maintain, as a professional, you have to do what you have to do. Also, you cannot, uh I don't want to mean it in a bad way, get so emotionally involved and you can't take it home with you because then it affects your life.

SPEAKER_02 5:05

Correct.

SPEAKER_01 5:05

So it's it's a struggle and it's it's a it's it's a challenge and how you put it in perspective and how you deal with it. Um and you learn through experience how to do that.

SPEAKER_00 5:15

How has the industry changed um in the last 20 years?

SPEAKER_01 5:20

Um, you know, I've been providing services on my provider with the um with what I do with the state of Florida for a while. Um the industry is is it's becoming more before the state of Florida we were we're able to see the clean the clients through the state of Medicaid, uh the Medicaid insurance, which was much easier now. The Medicaid is becoming HMO. So a lot of these kids um are going into these HMOs, which are not particularly benefiting them because they are kids with special needs. And therefore, what a no uh quote unquote normal child would need, maybe once a year going to the doctor, maybe getting some some medication for a flu or whatever, these kids have a constant need. So they always need physical therapy or occupational therapy in order to maintain their their flexibility or to maintain some quality of life. And I see a lot of times that um even though it's still state of Freud is still providing services, it seems like if they go into these private insurances, they will lose that ability to provide the needed services for these clients.

SPEAKER_00 6:26

Right. And when you say HMO, what does that mean?

SPEAKER_01 6:29

So an HMO is a private insurance. It's through, like, for example, uh, or any private insurance, and they'll have caps and amount of therapy that they will do also on their reimbursement that they will provide for the therapist. Again, we are not working in a clinic, we go to the patient's home, we go to a group home. So in order, you know, it's it's we provide an hour worth of services. So in order to do that, the therapist needs to be compensated appropriately, otherwise, they will not do it. And sometimes if the if the is the if the insurance is a private insurance uh health maintenance organization, that's what an HMO is, they will not pay, they will not compensate you appropriately to pay for the therapists. And therefore, you cannot see the patients under that particular insurance, and that patient may not get res receive the necessary treatments in the city care.

SPEAKER_00 7:19

Absolutely. And in this juncture, what are some of the things that clinic owners can do, folks in the industry, or even you know, people from the outside to support these um networks and maybe create a difference? What are some of the things that they could partake?

SPEAKER_01 7:35

I I think it's it's it's important to um lobby with the state of Florida in order to continue to provide services for these clients. It is not uh money that's not well spent because uh physical, occupational, or even speech therapy can keep these kids in a group home, in a day program, in a private home. Just a day in a hospital will cost just as much as maybe a whole year worth of therapy. So it's it's very important to keep them as independent as possible and as healthy as possible, because not only it's a benefit to the state of Florida because it will be uh a better way to use their money, but it's also uh less drain on the on the parents, on all the community at large, I think.

SPEAKER_00 8:20

Where do you see your legacy moving forward in the industry? What would you like to have an imprint on?

SPEAKER_01 8:27

Well, I hope for I hope that people when they do this job, they'll understand the importance or the the the impact they can have on a child or on their family. Because you know, uh going to provide services in a home, in a private home, it takes a lot of skills. You have to be um comfortable dealing with different types of people, adjusting, and also uh have empathy in what you're doing and enjoying what you're doing. So hopefully my legacy will in empower other therapists to have the same kind of philosophy and same time of same type of empathy for this type of work.

SPEAKER_00 9:09

Absolutely. More more empathy is what we need.

SPEAKER_01 9:12

Yeah, we do, we do. It's you know, a lot of times it's you know, we are we are paid, we do our job, but we also have to do a job that it gives you something back, and you give something back to the to the community at large.

SPEAKER_00 9:24

Yes, I think. No, no, no, you're absolutely true. We spend so much time in work in our craft. Um, we always have to have purpose. I think that when we create purpose in our lives, we better the people around us, we create leaders within us, and ultimately that transcends in the home, that transcends with your children, that transcends with your parents. Because I've seen folks that because they made an effort to change whatever that case is, even the parents, even if they're 40 and their 60s and their 70s, they start seeing that change and then they get inspired.

SPEAKER_02 9:57

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 9:58

So inspiration and change in purpose, identity, everything that we do certainly stems from that. And I think sometimes we're so disconnected by it. Yes, we're so disconnected by it just because we're so uh thrown into the day by day, correct? We're so thrown into the day by day. Um something that you had mentioned. I know that you originally had mentioned before that you had worked for social security, yes, and you made a transition. Yes, talk to me about that transition from going from working for the government, yes, you know, and how did you get that inspiration of getting into this field?

SPEAKER_01 10:39

So let's go back to I I moved from Rome, Italy to Seattle, Washington. I went to school in Seattle, I have a bachelor's degree in uh physical education. I worked, I'm a I played uh semi-professional soccer, I got hurt a few times and I saw physical therapy. Back then I thought that was a nice field to go into. I then moved away from Seattle, went came to Florida, kind of lost track of what I wanted to do. Went to school and went into uh business administration. I got an uh master's in business administration. When I graduated in 1991, there wasn't a lot of jobs around. The economy wasn't doing well. Um, I decided to take tests with the government. I was hired by I uh IRS, immigration, and social security. I decided to take the job with Social Security, that's the reason I came to Fort Laurerdale because I was hired here by Fort Laurel. And I worked for Social Security for five years, and I hated every single day. So it wasn't for me. I felt like a caged animal. Um, I I mean you're you're an athlete. I was an athlete. I was an athlete. I was actually, I gave I had an opportunity to go up a professional, semi-professional professional stalking in um in Costa Rica, and I didn't I didn't take that opportunity because life advanced other reasons. Anyhow, I worked for Social Security, I did not like it. I just was doing paperwork night every day from 7:30 to 5 o'clock. I felt like I just couldn't do it. So I eventually I was married marrying my first wife. That wasn't going well, so my life at that time wasn't great. I decided to quit. I got accepted into school, so I decided to go back into something that I liked, which was physical therapy. So I back in 1996, I entered school at Nova Southeastern University.

SPEAKER_00 12:24

Beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 12:25

And in 1998, I became a physical therapist. I got a license to be a physical therapist.

SPEAKER_00 12:29

So there's a correlation between you and Manny. I think yeah, there is a correlation. So your stories, you both come from Rome.

SPEAKER_01 12:38

In Rome, yes.

SPEAKER_00 12:39

Romano. Romano, Romano. And you have a love for soccer. Yes. You both played.

SPEAKER_02 12:46

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 12:47

And both of you were raised and were around, developing uh with physical therapy. So there when you guys meet, what was like what was the base of like your click? Because there's some people you meet and you click with, yeah. And um talk to me a little bit about that so then we can kind of go into um so then we can go into our the partnership.

SPEAKER_01 13:11

Yeah, you're right. I mean, I I'm not yeah, it's true. You have sometimes some people you click. Yeah, I don't, you know, I don't know exactly what it is. I think it's personality, also is the fact that we are from the same city, so it's it's to me, it's so I've I've left Rome when I was 15 years of age. I went to Seattle, Washington, where I didn't know any Italians until for the first five years of my life. But so when I see somebody from my city, it always brings me joy because I remember growing up in Rome and I I remember the you know, a time that doesn't come back anymore because it's changed him in Rome. But I remember playing soccer for four hours a day in the street with my friends, and so and also the hearing the Roman accent and reading somebody from Rome. And I see many as a lot of, you know, we have a lot in common from the same city. We have soccer. You know, I've gotten hurt, I've had to have a certain uh therapy. Um, you know, we Italians, we have a love for coffee, so we have a lot of things, and also I think a personality click. Other than that, I mean we have a lot in common, and plus, you know, you kind of with some people you don't, for whatever reason, you don't click, and some other some other cli people you do click. Of course, and I think uh our background uh also has a big impact on that.

SPEAKER_00 14:22

Of course, building community is something that in the United States it's a melting pot, no matter where you come from, even the in the in the large aspects from coast to coast, it's a completely different country. From New York to California to Seattle down to Florida, a completely different perspective, a completely different reality. So building community, especially when you've traveled across the ocean to come here, build a new life, restart two or three careers, it's insane. Yes, ultimately, yeah, because you know, um we we talked about it. It's just so nice. Yeah, it's so nice to find identification.

SPEAKER_02 14:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:00

Now, on a business standpoint, um, what inspired you to approach him now that you're going into a new transition in your life, in your career, and with the business?

SPEAKER_01 15:10

Well, I, you know, I've I've run my business for the last oh it's gonna be two and a half years, uh, 22 and a half years. I started in 2003. I got to a point in my life that I'm you know I'm pretty content and I'm also looking, um, you know, I'm getting to a certain age, not that I'm old, I don't consider myself old, but I'm I'm kind of kidding, you're rocking. I want to transition to uh um uh different things in my life that I would enjoy. I would like to enjoy going back to to Italy, spend more time there. Um, and I think it's it's a great fit because I see Manny going into the healthcare field. And I think it'd be a great person to carry on the legacy, expanded uh in different places in Florida because I think there's a need, a big need, because I know, for example, even in Brower County, I don't have enough therapists that work with me. I there are we have we have 32 therapists, I think 32, 33 therapists work with me, and we still get calls from uh people that need their their patients, you know, uh therapists for the patient, and I can't service I can't service them. So, and I know, like for example, in Palm Beach it's even hotter. Yeah, so there's a lot of need for this client, for these kind of clients, patients that we have, for these conditions to have services because I know how important it is for them to remain as independent as possible, yeah, and to keep them out of hospitals for as much as for as much as you can, yeah, you know, and and for the quality of life overall, of course, and make that as comfortable as possible within within their space, correct. And everybody wants to be within their space, right? Yeah, of course. You don't want to go to the hospital, you rather have therapy in your home. You don't you might have you don't might want to not want to go to the clinic or whatever you so how important are values to be in the in the healthcare industry?

SPEAKER_00 16:58

What are the top three values you consider that a person should have to want to be into the healthcare space?

SPEAKER_01 17:03

I think it's um I don't know, that's that's a good question. For me, the way I've run my business, um, I think it's it's empathy. You have to have empathy because if you do your job and you don't care what you're doing, you don't do it. You know, because you're working with kids and and families that they need your services and you also need to relate to them. Um, it's honesty. I I want to go to sleep at night comfortably. I want to make sure that I'm doing the right thing, I'm providing the right therapy to the to the therapist, and I'm treating the therapists that work with me correctly.

SPEAKER_02 17:41

Correct.

SPEAKER_01 17:42

You know, and appreciate them and loyalty. I am very loyal to my to my therapist. I think without them, there will be no business. So I appreciate them as much as I can. I, you know, some of the things I do in my business is, for example, at Thanksgiving, I'll send a uh gift card to the therapists that work with me. At Christmas, usually I organize a dinner. We didn't do it this year, but we did it the year before, and we're probably going to do it next year to appreciate them. I give them like a little bonus, even though most of the therapists, even though all the therapists that are working me at are 1099, they're independent contractors. Yeah. But I still give them something because it helps, it makes my job easier. And and I think they feel appreciated. That's what they tell me.

SPEAKER_00 18:20

Correct. How important is it to develop leaders in a business?

SPEAKER_01 18:26

It's uh it is important because you want people to take over the mantle and to continue providing something that's I think it's in it's it's needed and it's important in this in this society. So it is important to somebody that sees the big picture and what you're doing. You know, there's the business side, there's the the the treatment, the medical side, there's the the the human side. And that to me, the most important part is the human side. You know, the the business, yes, you have to run a business, yes to you have to do you have to do the treatment, but the human side is important, how you interact with your the people that work with you, the therapists, how you interact with the referral sources, right? Be being responsive to them, uh, and how you interact with the families and the and the child child, other than the physical therapy or the or the occupational therapy. It's I think all those components are very, very important.

SPEAKER_00 19:18

I'm listening to you, and I hear that. Even and this is something that marks with me, especially when we talk about healthcare, is that healthcare is a very hospitality. Yes, even if no one really talks about that, but you need to have so much hospitality. Yes, even within the billing framework, reaching out, even having a call, you don't know what day they've had, you don't know if it's been a very difficult day, maybe it's been an okay day, but just having that sense of um happiness. Yeah, you know, there's uh there's a book I read. Uh Dale Carnegie. Uh it was a Dale Carnegie book. And he's talking about how like in the 50s they would no in the 1920s they would get uh remember the communicators that would connect all the phone lines? Yes, yes, and they would teach them to smile when they would pick up the phone. I feel like we should always do that now. Yes. How important is that? Even when you pick like hello instead of hello.

SPEAKER_01 20:18

Yeah, I I think I think I people like there is this is uh although I'm providing physical therapy, it is a hospitality thing. You have to consider it. You have to have great public relations skills in a way, because you can't go into somebody's house or somebody's group home and just be business. And you know, you have to be able to interact. For example, I I speak three languages. Um, I speak Italian because it's my native language, I speak English because I l I learned it here, and I speak Spanish because I learned it as well. It's pretty similar to Italian. I also speak, I study French, so I can go back for a little French. And I've noticed that, for example, when I go in somebody's group home or somebody private home, if they're from if their main language, native language is Spanish, or if it's French, as soon as I speak Spanish or I speak their language, they relax. Because if they see that I'm making an effort, or I'll see, I'll say a few words in French, and they got you they're all you to par franc and they they relax and they see that I'm trying to make an effort to you know to connect with them on a more human level. Of course. Not to just be on a on a doctor to patient here, sign here and go. And that's and that's really important, I think.

SPEAKER_00 21:28

It is, it is. I mean, sometimes even when you when you go to the doctors, that experience sometimes it can be so cold. Yes, uh, it it feels like a it's a transactional almost. And and at the end of the day, you deal with kids, you deal with people that have a permanent disability, you have to come in with joy. Like you said, it's just that ultimately it's just the empathy of it.

SPEAKER_02 21:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:51

Um that's what attracts me so much about healthcare. And that's what like when I hear your story, when I hear Manny's story, when I hear about this beautiful synergy. Um, it's so rewarding because you know it, there's underlying values, and that is what would create the right ecosystem and the right community for others to thrive in. Because yes, business is great and it's good to bridge business and healthcare together and all that. You can have all the technology in the world, but when it comes down to it, you really want to create impact. Because ultimately, like I think all of us want to create impact when you've already built something. Like, I'm sure that at this point in your life, after so many years, you've seen a little bit of everything. You've probably lived and and shown so many different circumstances, you know.

SPEAKER_01 22:39

I I think life teaches you things. I've had a lot of things that didn't go right with me, but it's how you respond to them, right? You can you have an option, things don't always go right. You have an option. Either you can be and you can respond negatively, or from a negative something that happened negatively, you can respond in a positive way. But I always told myself that I have to be true to who I am. I can never become bitter because something didn't go right, or somebody took advantage of me, or something that, because it's not fair to the next person I deal with. And if you're going through life, they're just my life view of things. If you're going through life, you have to, we all have to work. Enjoy what you're doing. Be nice to the to the next person you you're dealing with, be nice to your to my therapists, uh, be nice to the to the patients that you go do you go deal with. Understand that they the parents may they have a situation that's very difficult to deal with. You have a child that's gonna be disabled. You know, for people who have kids, they can understand that it's hard. So they might not have been in the best of mood. They might that day they might the child might have uh problems or couldn't you know con contraindications, whatever you have, and you have to understand and you have to be flexible in your mind to know how to deal with them. Yes, and and adjust. And you always have to adjust because you have different personality, but do it with a smile and try to enjoy it and try to bring joy to the to the places you go to, I think.

SPEAKER_00 24:02

Correct.

SPEAKER_01 24:03

Because that's therapeutic as well, right? If I go to a place and I smile at you and you and how are you and how you doing, you feel better about yourself. If I come to a place, oh okay, sign here, uh okay, let me do a treatment. You kind of bring it takes your energy away, right? I think that's very important.

SPEAKER_00 24:18

Immediately. Now, everyone talks about AI. Everyone talks about AI. How do you see AI changing the physical therapy space and the approach?

SPEAKER_01 24:32

So I'll go a little bit before AI. So when we went through COVID, um, we were doing, we couldn't go to the patient's home. So we're doing a lot of telehealth. And I think telehealth was a great thing for some things, but not for example, for physical therapy. Physical therapy, or you know, you need the the actual one-on-one interaction, doing over a phone, so you have to maybe do range of motion, different exercises. It's hard to do with telemarketing, you know. So I think some things you also need the physical connection, physical touch. AI, I think it will help because, for example, we went from a time where we had to do all our documents in pen and paper. It would take me 45 minutes to write an evaluation. Going into digital, now I can write an evaluation a lot quicker. I can do a lot, a treatment note a lot quicker. AI, I think, is gonna help doing that process where you can do, you know, you can dictate a something and AI can put it in a format where it can write it into an evaluation or you can write it into a treatment note, which I think is important. It makes a life, it takes, it takes more because a lot of times as a therapist, you would go home and then you would have to do paperwork, which was cumbersome. AI is gonna facilitate that so you don't have that part. But AI cannot replace the actual one-on-one therapy. Right. I think that's never, I don't think that's that's good.

SPEAKER_00 26:05

Not even the robots.

SPEAKER_01 26:06

I don't even think the robots, because the robots are a machine, and um you don't have, you know, maybe for some situation, yes. Yeah, I can understand, but you you need that the the humanity, a part of it is important.

SPEAKER_00 26:20

The human touch to it.

SPEAKER_01 26:21

The human touch is very important.

SPEAKER_00 26:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:23

Good morning, how are you? How's it going? How are you? Let's oh you know, you want a coffee, you want this. That's that's part of life, and that's important also in the to keep things a more of an on on a normal level for people who are not living a normal life because they have a situation that's complicated, they have a disabled child, especially with the kind of conditions that we see their child children too. So to bring some normality into it, it's important.

SPEAKER_00 26:47

Of course, of course, and it's the the interaction at the end of the day. In the interaction, it's really important. Yeah, it's it's already tough as it is to not have that interaction. I feel like now everybody feels like a little bit more isolated, especially after COVID. But being able to normalize that, bring it back, having that warmth, it's it's quite something. And you're absolutely right. You went to the uh association for physical therapy last week there in uh Los Angeles in Anaheim. Um, anything that stroke you that you saw that was like in the industry that just seems very vanilla, that that is not that everyone's trying to do right now and nobody's really getting it right. Is there something unique that you saw?

SPEAKER_01 27:30

I I see a lot of this, you know, machines, um, robots, and that people are coming out with. I again, I don't know. You know, for something as it probably is very good. For example, for somebody that's a paraplegic, can't walk, maybe strapping on um um the you know, it helps them to for them to walk because otherwise they wouldn't be able to.

SPEAKER_02 27:51

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 27:52

But some of the things some of the stuff, it's it's it might not be appropriate. Also, you know, a lot of uh I went there, a lot of the software stuff that they're coming up with. It's it's good, but you'll still need you can't just be you still need the human interaction and the human touch in that as well.

SPEAKER_00 28:09

Correct.

SPEAKER_01 28:10

You know, I I think that's important.

SPEAKER_00 28:12

What's one aspect of that?

SPEAKER_01 28:13

Just like in terms of well, that's the AI that we're talking about. So AI can replace a lot of uh, you know, when I'm when I'm doing a physical uh treatment note, I might input what I think is important. But if you let AI just do it, AI will come up with their own and you lose that part that I think to me shouldn't change totally.

SPEAKER_00 28:30

Yeah, it's like it's almost being like an artist.

SPEAKER_01 28:33

Correct, correct.

SPEAKER_00 28:35

You you want to be you you want to be an expert in your field.

SPEAKER_01 28:38

Correct, yeah. You want to have an expert and then and enjoy what you're doing.

SPEAKER_00 28:42

Love it. Yeah. All right, fantastic. So Massimo. One last question. Sure. Okay. Where would you like to see where would you like to see your legacy in the greater scope of things? How do you see yourself evolving in the next five years and what impact do you want to make?

SPEAKER_01 29:08

Well, so now, you know, teaming up with Manny, so we I think if we can bring this model to other parts of Florida, I think we can be an impact, uh, a positive impact in other communities. And I think that would be great. And especially hopefully uh what I'm talking about here will be part of the therapists of the in of the future, that they can embrace that and use that as a way to do therapy with with the population that we deal with, that we work with.

SPEAKER_00 29:39

I love that. Thank you so much for coming over to the forum. Thank you so much for being here. It's always a pleasure.

SPEAKER_01 29:46

Oh, thank you for inviting me. Hopefully, I didn't talk too much.

SPEAKER_00 29:49

No, you're you're the best.

SPEAKER_01 29:52

Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 29:56

Okay.