Two Aliens - The Murder of Cassie Jo Stoddart: The Scream Killers

🎬🔪 The Murder of Cassie Jo Stoddart: The Scream Killers

Podcast: Two Aliens

In this episode, our two alien minds examine a chilling case inspired by horror films — the brutal murder of Cassie Jo Stoddart, later linked to two teenagers obsessed with recreating a real-life slasher scenario.

We explore:

• Who Cassie Jo Stoddart was — a high school student house-sitting for relatives

• The quiet evening at a home in Pocatello that turned deadly

• Friends visiting earlier in the night before leaving her alone

• The return of two classmates dressed in dark clothing

• The staged power outage meant to create fear

• The brutal attack that followed inside the darkened house

• The killers filming themselves before and after the crime

• References to horror films, including Scream

• The investigation that quickly focused on those closest to her

• The discovery of video evidence and recorded confessions

A deeply disturbing case — exploring obsession, fantasy, and how fiction crossed into a real-life tragedy.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Imagine uh sitting in an unfamiliar living room on a dark, stormy evening. You are watching a horror film, completely unaware that the very monsters you are watching on the screen are in reality standing right outside the basement door pulling on masks.

SPEAKER_00 0:15

Right. It's a terrifying scenario.

SPEAKER_01 0:17

It is. You are about to become the unwilling center of a very real, very lethal sequence of events. Welcome to today's comprehensive analysis. We are addressing you directly today because, well, the subject matter requires an entirely focused, undistracted examination.

SPEAKER_00 0:33

Absolutely. The gravity of this requires our full attention.

SPEAKER_01 0:36

Exactly. We are opening an extensive stack of documentary sources, public records, court transcripts, and investigative files regarding the 2006 murder of Cassie Joe Stoddard in Pocatello, Idaho.

SPEAKER_00 0:48

And uh to truly comprehend the gravity of this case, you have to look far beyond the immediate physical act of violence.

SPEAKER_01 0:55

Right, because this is not merely a recounting of a crime, is it?

SPEAKER_00 0:57

No, it's not. It is a terrifying psychological study of the copycat phenomenon. We will be analyzing a documented psychiatric dynamic that closely resembles adolescent foliadoo.

SPEAKER_01 1:07

Which is often referred to as madness of two, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:09

Exactly, madness of two. And we'll be dissecting a highly calculated obsessive pursuit of infamy. The public records indicate that the individuals involved were heavily influenced by specific media.

SPEAKER_01 1:20

And they ultimately utilized that media as a literal step-by-step blueprint for a home invasion and murder.

SPEAKER_00 1:27

They did, yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:28

So we will trace this timeline chronologically, but we will not just list the events. We need to examine the mechanisms behind them.

SPEAKER_00 1:35

I agree. We need to look at the genesis of this obsession.

SPEAKER_01 1:38

Let us begin with the individuals at the center of this case. Cassie Joe Stoddart was born on December 21st, 1989. In the fall of 2006, she was a 16-year-old 11th grader at Pocatello High School.

SPEAKER_00 1:51

And by all accounts in the public record, she was a highly responsible, dependable teenager.

SPEAKER_01 1:56

She was. And the perpetrators, Brian Lee Draper and Tory Michael Adamsick, they're also 16-year-old 11th graders at that same high school.

SPEAKER_00 2:03

Right. Draper was born on March 21, 1990, in Sandy, Utah, before his family relocated to Idaho. And Annambisk was born on June 14, 1990, and was raised in Pocatello.

SPEAKER_01 2:14

The initial connection between these two perpetrators is uh it's foundational to understanding the rapid escalation of their behavior, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 2:22

It really is. Draper and Adam Jack met as sophomores at Pocatello High School. The files show they quickly bonded over a shared intense interest in films and amateur filmmaking.

SPEAKER_01 2:33

Which, in a typical adolescent context, an interest in video production is entirely benign.

SPEAKER_00 2:38

Oh, completely. It is a creative outlet for most kids.

SPEAKER_01 2:41

But here, in this highly specific psychological pairing, this shared interest became the vehicle through which they amplified their violent ideations.

SPEAKER_00 2:50

Exactly. They began recording films of their own, which uh gradually transitioned from harmless amateur productions to explicit, spoken documentations of their lethal intentions.

SPEAKER_01 3:01

I am looking at the documentation of their motives, and the records explicitly note they were seeking fame and pleasure.

SPEAKER_00 3:06

Fame and pleasure, yes.

SPEAKER_01 3:08

They developed an intense obsession with two very distinct sets of killers. First, they idolized the perpetrators of the Columbine High School massacre, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. And second, they idolized the fictional villains Billy Loomis and Stu Mocker from the 1996 slasher film Scream.

SPEAKER_00 3:25

This dual inspiration is striking.

SPEAKER_01 3:28

It is. I mean, it is one thing to have a morbid curiosity about a historical event, but to actively blend a real-world mass casualty event with a highly stylized Hollywood slasher film, it seems to indicate a complete collapse of the boundary between reality and fiction.

SPEAKER_00 3:43

It does.

SPEAKER_01 3:44

How common is that level of cognitive detachment?

SPEAKER_00 3:47

Well, that dual inspiration is the most critical analytical component of their pathology. By idolizing the Columbine perpetrators, Draper and Adam Mashik were seeking the very real, tragic notoriety and massive societal disruption that a mass casualty event generates.

SPEAKER_01 4:02

Right. The real world impact.

SPEAKER_00 4:04

Yes. In the psychiatric literature surrounding mass violence, Columbine often represents to alienated youth, an assertion of ultimate power. Trevor Burrus, Jr.

SPEAKER_01 4:12

Sort of permanent retaliation against a society they feel rejected by. Because Scream involves two high school students who wear masks and use knives to murder their peers.

SPEAKER_00 4:31

Right. In a highly stylized, directed manner.

SPEAKER_01 4:34

So they are pulling the desire for permanent historical infamy from real life, but pulling the aesthetics and the methodology from a movie set.

SPEAKER_00 4:43

Precisely. When you blend these two inspirations, you see a total fracturing of reality. They wanted the enduring factual infamy of Columbine, but they wanted to execute it with the cinematic cat and mouse theatricality of a Hollywood slasher film.

SPEAKER_01 4:58

Which suggests a severe detachment from the permanence of death.

SPEAKER_00 5:01

It absolutely does. They were treating human life as merely a prop in their own self-directed narrative. They viewed themselves not as murderers, but as the starring anti-heroes in a production they were creating for the world to eventually watch.

SPEAKER_01 5:14

And this detachment, it did not remain theoretical. It materialized into a highly tangible plan.

SPEAKER_00 5:19

Yes. The court documents show they created a physical death list.

SPEAKER_01 5:22

A literal list. Cassie Joe's daughter and their mutual friend Matt Beckham were explicitly designated as their first targets.

SPEAKER_00 5:29

And with the targets selected, they moved to acquire the weapons.

SPEAKER_01 5:32

Right. And when you look at the pawn shop receipts and the logistics of their preparation, it reveals a chilling degree of calculation.

SPEAKER_00 5:39

It really does. Adamshik's friend, Joe Lucero, was utilized to purchase four knives at a local pawn shop.

SPEAKER_01 5:46

The financial transaction is precisely documented too. Lucero spent a total of $45. Of that amount, $40 was provided by Draper, and $5 was provided by Adam Hatchick.

SPEAKER_00 5:58

And we know exactly what was bought.

SPEAKER_01 6:00

We do. Lucero purchased three non-serrated knives and one serrated knife. Furthermore, Lucero later testified under oath that Draper explicitly claimed ownership of the serrated blade immediately after the purchase.

SPEAKER_00 6:13

The premeditated purchase of specific weapons through a third party reveals a massive amount about their level of planning and criminal intent.

SPEAKER_01 6:20

How so? From a legal standpoint.

SPEAKER_00 6:22

Well, utilizing an intermediary proxy like Lucero accomplishes two vital things for a conspirator. First, it bypasses any age restrictions or uncomfortable scrutiny they might have faced purchasing an arsenal of knives themselves.

SPEAKER_01 6:34

Right, they were 16.

SPEAKER_00 6:35

Exactly. Second, it distances them from the physical transaction, which is a classic documented countermeasure taken by individuals planning a premeditated crime.

SPEAKER_01 6:45

They were actively attempting to keep their fingerprints off the point of sale.

SPEAKER_00 6:49

Yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 6:50

And the financial breakdown itself is revealing. Draper providing 40 of the $45 and specifically laying claim to the serrated knife.

SPEAKER_00 7:00

That is a very important detail.

SPEAKER_01 7:01

Because a serrated blade is designed to saw through tough material. It causes a completely different, much more devastating type of tissue damage than a smooth edge. That choice alone reflects a specific, horrifying level of premeditation.

SPEAKER_00 7:17

It absolutely does. The financial disparity also hints at the internal dynamics of their partnership.

SPEAKER_01 7:23

Suggesting Draper may have been the primary financial driver at that moment.

SPEAKER_00 7:26

Yes, it suggests Draper was the primary financial driver of the physical preparation at that specific time. Furthermore, the deliberation of knives, rather than attempting to acquire firearms, aligns directly with their scream inspiration.

SPEAKER_01 7:38

Aaron Powell Because the characters in that film explicitly use knives to create a more intimate visceral fear in their victims.

SPEAKER_00 7:45

Right. This weapon acquisition completely dispels any potential legal defense that the events of September 22 were a spur-of-the-moment tragedy.

SPEAKER_01 7:54

Or just a juvenile prank that accidentally escalated.

SPEAKER_00 7:56

Exactly. It was a methodical, funded, and explicitly armed conspiracy weeks in the making.

SPEAKER_01 8:02

That brings us to the setup. And the evening of September 22, 2006. Once they had the blueprint of the weapons, they needed the stage.

SPEAKER_00 8:10

And the isolated house provided exactly that.

SPEAKER_01 8:13

It did. The house on Whispering Cliffs Drive provided the exact cinematic isolation they were looking for. The setting is in Northeast Bannock County.

SPEAKER_00 8:21

Cassie was hired by her aunt and uncle, Alison and Frank Contreras.

SPEAKER_01 8:25

Right. To house sit and care for their pets for the weekend while they were out of town. Think of the Whispering Cliffs house not just as a future crime scene, but as a sound stage for their delusion.

SPEAKER_00 8:34

A sound stage. Yes, that is an accurate way to look at it.

SPEAKER_01 8:38

You have a large, relatively isolated home, a teenager entirely alone, tasked with watching over animals, and a dark evening. It perfectly mirrors the foundational tropes found in the horror movies the perpetrators actively idolized.

SPEAKER_00 8:53

It is highly probable, based on their documented media consumption, that Draper and Adam Massick immediately recognized this situational parallel.

SPEAKER_01 9:02

They saw the opportunity.

SPEAKER_00 9:03

They did. The geographical isolation of the house and the complete absence of adult authority figures provided the exact environmental conditions they required to execute their cinematic fantasy.

SPEAKER_01 9:14

They were not just looking for a random opportunity to kill.

SPEAKER_00 9:17

No, they were looking for a specific aesthetic and narrative setup. Furthermore, Cassie's responsibility to the house and the pets anchored her to that specific location.

SPEAKER_01 9:26

Right, they knew she wouldn't just leave.

SPEAKER_00 9:28

They knew her character well enough to understand she would not easily abandon her post, making her highly vulnerable and predictable.

SPEAKER_01 9:35

The timeline of that evening begins with an initial, seemingly friendly visit. Cassie's boyfriend, Matt Beckham, arrives at the Whispering Cliffs residence around 6.00 p.m.

SPEAKER_00 9:45

And later in the evening, Draper and Adamsic arrive at the house.

SPEAKER_01 9:49

Two, as they stated, hang out. During this time, Cassie gives the boys a tour of the home. Crucially, the records show this tour included the basement.

SPEAKER_00 9:59

That tour was essential to their plan.

SPEAKER_01 10:02

Afterward, the four teenagers gather in the living room to watch the film Kill Bill Volume 2. However, Draper and Adam Sick do not stay for the duration of the movie.

SPEAKER_00 10:12

No, they leave early.

SPEAKER_01 10:13

They leave before the film finishes, claiming to Cassie and Matt that they want to go to the local movie theater instead.

SPEAKER_00 10:19

This initial visit served as a critical reconnaissance mission. By securing a tour of the house from the victim herself, they were able to map the architectural layout.

SPEAKER_01 10:28

Identify the entry and exit points.

SPEAKER_00 10:29

Yes, and most importantly, locate the electrical circuit breaker in the basement. Leaving early under the guise of going to a movie theater was a highly calculated move.

SPEAKER_01 10:39

It established an alibi.

SPEAKER_00 10:40

It was designed to establish an alibi for their whereabouts later that night while simultaneously positioning themselves for the next phase of their tactical plan.

SPEAKER_01 10:48

During this entire initial visit, they established their presence as normal, non-threatening peers.

SPEAKER_00 10:54

Entirely masking their true intentions.

SPEAKER_01 10:57

And the unseen action during their departure represents a profound betrayal. The court transcripts reveal that before leaving the house, Draper intentionally unlocked the basement door to allow for undetected reentry later that night.

SPEAKER_00 11:10

Right.

SPEAKER_01 11:11

By unlocking that door, Draper wasn't just committing a preliminary break-in. He was a director setting up the props before the cameras rolled.

SPEAKER_00 11:19

The chilling nature of this betrayal cannot be overstated. They weaponized their status as trusted friends and classmates to infiltrate and compromise the physical security of the home.

SPEAKER_01 11:29

Cassie felt safe enough to give them a tour.

SPEAKER_00 11:31

And they used that exact trust to physically disable the locking mechanisms meant to protect her. Psychologically, this demonstrates a profound capacity for manipulation, deceit, and compartmentalization.

SPEAKER_01 11:43

Because they were actively engaged in a friendly, normal social interaction upstairs.

SPEAKER_00 11:48

Watching a movie, yes. While simultaneously and quietly setting a lethal trap downstairs.

SPEAKER_01 11:53

This leads us to the execution of their plan, which the legal files show involved deliberate psychological torture preceding the murder.

SPEAKER_00 12:00

Yes, the psychological aspect was heavily documented.

SPEAKER_01 12:04

After leaving the house, Draper and Adam Arisic parked their car down the street to remain unseen. They changed into dark clothing, put on gloves, and donned white painted masks.

SPEAKER_00 12:15

Which was a direct, undeniable homage to the Scream franchise.

SPEAKER_01 12:19

They then silently re-entered the house through the basement door that Draper had previously unlocked while Cassie and Matt were still upstairs watching television.

SPEAKER_00 12:27

The physical donning of the costumes and masks is a significant psychological threshold. In the context of a thrill killing inspired by media, the mask serves multiple purposes.

SPEAKER_01 12:37

Practically it conceals identity, right?

SPEAKER_00 12:39

Of course, in case there are surviving witnesses or cameras, but psychologically it acts as a powerful mechanism for dissociation.

SPEAKER_01 12:46

Dissociation from the act itself.

SPEAKER_00 12:48

Exactly. By putting on those painted masks, Draper and Adam Arisic were shedding their everyday identities as high school students. They were fully adopting the personas of the fictional killers they idolized.

SPEAKER_01 12:59

So this physical barrier over their faces allowed them to distance themselves from their own humanity.

SPEAKER_00 13:05

And the humanity of their victim. It distanced them from the horrific reality of the actions they were about to take.

SPEAKER_01 13:12

Once they were inside the basement, they initiated a terrifying cat and mouse game. Initially, they attempted to lure the couple downstairs by intentionally making loud noises.

SPEAKER_00 13:22

So they could scare them, as they later admitted.

SPEAKER_01 13:24

Right. When Cassie and Matt did not investigate the noises, the perpetrators escalated their tactics. They located the circuit breaker they had mapped earlier and cut the power to the entire house.

SPEAKER_00 13:36

The moment they hit that circuit breaker, they completely flipped the power dynamic.

SPEAKER_01 13:39

They took away Cassie and Matt's ability to see, turning a familiar, safe home into a dark trap. And the visceral detail reported from that moment involves the Contreras family's dog.

SPEAKER_00 13:51

The dog began staring down the dark basement stairs, periodically barking and growling.

SPEAKER_01 13:56

They use the animal as an instinctual alarm system. They knew the dog growling at the dark stairs would cause far more psychological terror than just rushing the room immediately.

SPEAKER_00 14:05

The psychological terror inflicted during this specific phase was immense and entirely intentional. By cutting the power, they plunge the environment into darkness.

SPEAKER_01 14:15

Stripping Cassie and Matt of their visual orientation.

SPEAKER_00 14:18

And their sense of control over their surroundings. The dog's reaction acts as an evolutionary alarm system, confirming to the teenagers upstairs that there is indeed an unseen hostile presence in the dark below them.

SPEAKER_01 14:30

This is a deliberate escalation of fear.

SPEAKER_00 14:33

Draper and Adamsiq were not merely focused on the physical act of murder. They were actively extracting sadistic pleasure from the psychological terror they were inflicting.

SPEAKER_01 14:42

They were directing a real-life horror sequence.

SPEAKER_00 14:45

Waiting patiently for their targets to investigate the basement. When Cassie and Matt refused to go down into the dark to check the breaker, the perpetrators had to adapt.

SPEAKER_01 14:53

So they turned some of the lights back on.

SPEAKER_00 14:55

Right, to maintain the psychological tension without forcing a stalemate.

SPEAKER_01 14:58

After the temporary power outage, Cassie understandably became deeply uneasy. Matt Beckham called his mother to ask if he could stay the night at the house to protect Cassie.

SPEAKER_00 15:08

His mother denied the request for him to stay.

SPEAKER_01 15:10

She did, but she offered a very clear lifeline. She told Matt that Cassie could come home with him and return to the Whispering Cliffs house in the morning when it was light.

SPEAKER_00 15:20

But Cassie declined the offer.

SPEAKER_01 15:22

She chose to stay due to her strong sense of duty and responsibility to her aunt, uncle, and the pets they had entrusted to her care.

SPEAKER_00 15:30

Cassie's decision to stay highlights her strong character, her dependability, and her sense of responsibility.

SPEAKER_01 15:37

Traits which tragically work directly to the perpetrator's advantage.

SPEAKER_00 15:41

Absolutely. Matt was subsequently picked up by his mother at approximately 10:30 p.m.

SPEAKER_01 15:46

Before leaving the driveway, Matt attempted to call Atomshik's cell phone to see if they could meet up later. Adamshick answered the phone, but he was whispering.

SPEAKER_00 15:55

This whispered tone led Matt to assume that the boys were indeed inside the movie theater as they had previously claimed.

SPEAKER_01 16:01

So he did not press the issue.

SPEAKER_00 16:03

Matt's departure from the premises removed the only variable Draper and Adamshik had not fully controlled in their initial planning.

SPEAKER_01 16:10

And the phone call is another striking example of their manipulation.

SPEAKER_00 16:13

And situational awareness. Adam Breshick answering the phone in a whisper while physically hiding in the dark basement of the very house Matt was calling from, it demonstrates a highly calculated commitment to their alibi.

SPEAKER_01 16:27

It reinforced the illusion that they were miles away in a crowded theater.

SPEAKER_00 16:31

Ensuring Matt would leave the property without raising any alarms or suspicions.

SPEAKER_01 16:35

Hearing the vehicle leave and knowing Matt was gone, the killers initiated the final attack. They cut the power at the circuit breaker once more.

SPEAKER_00 16:43

And when Cassie still did not come down to the basement, they realized they had to move.

SPEAKER_01 16:47

They armed themselves in the dark. Draper held the dagger-type weapon, and Adam Preshik held the hunting knife. They slowly ascended the stairs.

SPEAKER_00 16:56

And to trigger a final cinematic jump scare, Draper violently opened and slammed a closet door at the top of the stairs.

SPEAKER_01 17:03

They then attacked Cassie as she lay on the living room couch. The medical and autopsy reports entered into the public record indicate she was stabbed approximately 30 times.

SPEAKER_00 17:12

Resulting in 12 potentially fatal wounds.

SPEAKER_01 17:14

The clinical brutality of this final act stands in stark, horrifying contrast to the perpetrator's fictional fantasies.

SPEAKER_00 17:22

It does. In a slasher film, violence is heavily choreographed, sanitized, and ultimately artificial.

SPEAKER_01 17:28

But the physical reality of inflicting 30 stab wounds on a peer requires a sustained, intimate, and horrific application of physical force and rage.

SPEAKER_00 17:38

The slamming of the closet door immediately prior to the attack confirms their unyielding commitment to the cinematic jump scare aesthetic right up to the very second of legal violence.

SPEAKER_01 17:48

But the sheer volume of wounds, 12 of which were independently potentially fatal, indicates a frenzied state.

SPEAKER_00 17:54

And a profound lack of physical restraint. It exposes the massive chasm between their stylized, narcissistic ideations of being cool, infamous masterminds, and the gruesome, chaotic, and brutal reality of actually taking a human life.

SPEAKER_01 18:08

The investigation commenced when Cassie's body was discovered two days later by her family returning from their weekend trip.

SPEAKER_00 18:13

The initial fans of the investigation followed standard procedure.

SPEAKER_01 18:16

They explored several leads before zeroing in on the actual killers. The first person of interest was the boyfriend of Cassie's mother.

SPEAKER_00 18:24

Because his fingerprints were discovered on the basement circuit breaker door.

SPEAKER_01 18:28

Which obviously raised immediate red flags given the power outages. However, he was cleared by investigators because he provided a verifiable alibi for his whereabouts that weekend.

SPEAKER_00 18:38

Furthermore, he had performed legitimate contracted electrical work at the Contreras residence a few months prior to the murder.

SPEAKER_01 18:45

A fact that was firmly corroborated by the Contreras family.

SPEAKER_00 18:48

So the attention then naturally turned to the second person of interest, Matt Beckham, as he was the last known person to see Cassie alive.

SPEAKER_01 18:56

Right. Standard homicide investigative protocol mandates, looking extremely closely at those closest to the victim, family members, and particularly those who were last in their presence.

SPEAKER_00 19:06

Beckham's clearance by the authorities was swift and definitive. He submitted to and passed a law enforcement polygraph examination.

SPEAKER_01 19:13

While polygraphs measure autonomic arousal and have limitations, they are utilized as an effective investigative filter to gauge deception.

SPEAKER_00 19:22

More importantly, he possessed a rock solid timeline and alibi, having been with his mother for the remainder of the night after leaving the house at 10.30 p.m.

SPEAKER_01 19:31

Crucially, his mother confirmed to police detectives that she distinctly heard Cassie's voice calling out from the house as Matt left, proving beyond a doubt that Cassie was alive at the precise time of his departure. With the immediate circle cleared, detectives were forced to widen their scope. They looked closely at the timeline established by Beckham, which explicitly placed Draper and Adam Karayak at the house earlier that evening.

SPEAKER_00 19:56

Detectives subsequently brought Draper and Adam Pesic in for formal questioning.

SPEAKER_01 20:01

During the interrogation, the boys presented their pre-planned alibi, claiming they had left the Whispering Cliffs house and gone downtown to watch the horror movie Pulse.

SPEAKER_00 20:10

The choice of a horror movie as a specific alibi is a fascinating psychological detail.

SPEAKER_01 20:15

It further blurs the lines of their obsession with the genre and their real-world actions, right?

SPEAKER_00 20:19

Exactly. They were using the exact media format they idolized as a shield against law enforcement. However, an alibi is only as strong as its verifiable granular details.

SPEAKER_01 20:29

And detectives utilized standard, highly effective cognitive interview and interrogation techniques by pressing them for specific chronological plot details of the film Pulse.

SPEAKER_00 20:42

I have read through the summaries of these interrogation logs, and the psychological collapse is sudden and total.

SPEAKER_01 20:48

When you ask a suspect to recount a fabricated story out of chronological order or ask for specific details they haven't rehearsed, it overloads their cognitive working memory.

SPEAKER_00 20:58

Unable to recount the actual plot of the movie they claim to have just seen, their alibi completely crumbled.

SPEAKER_01 21:04

They realized the detectives knew they were lying, so they quickly pivoted to a new, noticeably weaker lie, claiming they were actually going through cars.

SPEAKER_00 21:13

Committing minor burglaries in the area instead of being at the theater.

SPEAKER_01 21:16

Eventually the cognitive load and the pressure became too much. Draper cracked.

SPEAKER_00 21:21

He confessed to the police that they were involved, but he immediately attempted to minimize his own physical involvement in the actual stabbing.

SPEAKER_01 21:28

The rapid unraveling of their pulse alibi demonstrates the fragility of their plan once subjected to professional law enforcement scrutiny.

SPEAKER_00 21:35

They considered themselves to be criminal masterminds, fully capable of outsmarting the authorities, but they completely failed to account for basic investigatory cross examination regarding their timeline.

SPEAKER_01 21:47

Draper's confession, coupled with his immediate attempt to minimize his own culpability, initiated the classic prisoner's dilemma.

SPEAKER_00 21:55

Yes. In criminal conspiracies, when co conspirators are physically separated. And interrogated independently, the Unified Alliance almost always shatters.

SPEAKER_01 22:05

Each individual attempts to save themselves or secure a lesser charge by shifting the bulk of the blame to the other party.

SPEAKER_00 22:12

The formal arrests were made on September 27, 2006.

SPEAKER_01 22:15

Both individuals were charged with first-degree murder and conspiracy to commit first-degree murder. The prisoner's dilemma you mentioned played out extensively across multiple subsequent interrogations.

SPEAKER_00 22:25

The boys turned on each other completely.

SPEAKER_01 22:28

Draper initially claimed he was in the room, but did not stab her at all. Later, he amended that statement, admitting to stabbing her, but claimed he only did so because Adam Kanzik commanded him to.

SPEAKER_00 22:39

Quoting Adam Isiga saying, make sure she is dead.

SPEAKER_01 22:42

This shifting, minimizing narrative is highly typical in conspiracy and homicide cases, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 22:48

It is highly typical. Draper's assertion that Adam Sharvik ordered him to ensure the victim was dead is a calculated attempt to frame Adam Shack as the dominant driving instigator.

SPEAKER_01 22:59

Thereby theoretically reducing Draper's own perceived malice and legal liability.

SPEAKER_00 23:05

However, the legal doctrine of conspiracy and first-degree murder does not absolve a willing participant simply because they claim to have been following the orders of a co-conspirator.

SPEAKER_01 23:14

Because both individuals actively planned the event, funded the weapons, armed themselves, infiltrated the house, and executed the physical act.

SPEAKER_00 23:23

The shifting of blame during the interrogations did not grant them leniency. It only served to provide investigators with more internal, granular details of their toxic dynamic.

SPEAKER_01 23:32

A major breakthrough in the physical evidence occurred when Draper, attempting to cooperate, led investigators to a location called Black Rock Canyon.

SPEAKER_00 23:40

At this remote location, police recovered a massive cache of highly incriminating evidence.

SPEAKER_01 23:45

The partially burned and buried dark clothing, the white painted masks used during the attack, the specific murder weapons purchased at the pawn shop, and notably a partially burned VHS tape.

SPEAKER_00 23:57

The forensic restoration of this VHS tape revealed chilling documentary-style recordings.

SPEAKER_01 24:03

On these tapes, the perpetrators had actually recorded themselves detailing their precise, premeditated plans to murder Cassie and potentially others.

SPEAKER_00 24:12

The existence of these restored tapes is perhaps the most defining evidentiary feature of this entire case. It ties directly back to their stated desire to outdo their Columbine and Hollywood idols in the pursuit of lasting fame.

SPEAKER_01 24:32

They were not merely committing a horrific crime in secret.

SPEAKER_00 24:35

No, they were actively producing a documentary about their own perceived brilliance, ruthlessness, and superiority. They fully believed that these tapes would eventually be viewed by the public, cementing their legacy as infamous figures.

SPEAKER_01 24:48

Instead, this compulsive need for self-documentation provided the prosecution with irrefutable, primary source, gold standard evidence of premeditation, intent, and malice aforethought.

SPEAKER_00 25:00

It destroyed any possibility of a viable defense regarding their state of mind.

SPEAKER_01 25:05

The trials took place in the spring and summer of 2007. During these proceedings, the prosecution heavily highlighted the dual inspirations of Columbine and the Scream franchise to establish the motive and the mindset.

SPEAKER_00 25:17

The mindset was central to the prosecution's case.

SPEAKER_01 25:20

I want to look closely at a specific passage from Draper's physical journal that was presented to the jury in court.

SPEAKER_00 25:26

It's a very revealing entry.

SPEAKER_01 25:28

It read, Uh, I am becoming more and more obsessed with Columbine. It seems now that that's all I think about. I would give anything to go back in time and be a part of Eric Harris and Dylan Cleebold's lives. They are my heroes. I will follow in their footsteps, and maybe I'll even meet them.

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That goes way beyond just being a copycat.

SPEAKER_01 25:46

That reads like a complete identity collapse. It's almost as if he didn't want to just mimic Columbine. He literally wanted to retroactively insert himself into it.

SPEAKER_00 25:54

How exactly does this tie into the folia do dynamic that was discussed during the court proceedings?

SPEAKER_01 26:00

Well, that journal entry is a textbook, severe articulation of the copycat phenomenon escalating into a dangerous psychological identification.

SPEAKER_00 26:09

It is not just an emulation of the violent act.

SPEAKER_01 26:12

No, it is an intense obsessive desire to merge his own identity with the previous perpetrators. Draper is expressing a desire to erase his own reality and inhabit theirs.

SPEAKER_00 26:22

The psychiatric term folie deu or shared psychotic disorder is highly relevant here to explain how this obsession became actionable.

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It describes a situation where two individuals, often existing in close psychological proximity and relative isolation from normalizing, healthy pure influences, share a delusion or a pathological ideation.

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In this specific case, neither Draper nor Adam Sick might have possessed the individual catalyst to commit this act alone.

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But together they created a closed, toxic feedback loop.

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They validated each other's darkest fantasies. They continually escalated their rhetoric, their planning, and their perceived grievances until the boundary between dark fantasy and real-world action completely evaporated.

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The tapes and journals presented at trial effectively illustrated to the jury that this was not a spontaneous act of adolescent rage.

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But a deeply entrenched, shared pathology culminating in a highly organized lethal conspiracy.

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The verdicts delivered by the juries were decisive. Draper was convicted on April 17, 2007.

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And Adakowsk was convicted shortly after on June 8, 2007.

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On August 31st, 2007, the sentencing phase concluded. Both individuals received mandatory sentences of life imprisonment without the possibility of parole for the murder charge.

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Plus an additional 30 years to life for the conspiracy to commit murder conviction.

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They were subsequently transferred to and placed at the Idaho State Correctional Institution near Cuna.

SPEAKER_00 27:47

Which brings us to the decades of aftermath.

SPEAKER_01 27:49

Yes. We will now turn our focus to the decades of aftermath, the incredibly extensive appellate legal process, and the ongoing media saturation from 2006 up to recent years.

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First, regarding the victim and the community's response.

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Cassie's funeral was held on October 1st, 2006, and the records note it was attended by 500 people, illustrating the massive impact she had on her community.

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To honor her memory and her character, her family started a charity initiative called Pumpkins for Cassie.

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Manned by her grandmother and a friend, the charity trades pumpkins for financial donations to the Pocatello Animal Shelter and the Idaho Food Bank.

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This initiative directly reflects Cassie's documented love for animals and honors her final act of diligently pet-sitting for her family.

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The establishment of that charity highlights the stark, fundamental contrast between the destructive, narcissistic, fame-seeking goals of the perpetrators and the constructive, compassionate legacy left by the victim and her surviving family.

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It is a vital component of the sociological aftermath of this case. It demonstrates a community's active effort to reclaim a narrative from an act of profound violence.

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Ensuring that the enduring memory is one of community support and charity rather than just the brutality of the crime.

SPEAKER_00 29:02

Moving to the extensive legal aftermath, we see multiple avenues of litigation. In 2010, the Stoddard family filed a civil suit against the Pocatello School District, alleging negligence.

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The foundation of their claim was that authorities at the schools should have recognized the threat posed by Draper and Adamsegut before the murder occurred.

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However, the courts ultimately dismissed the case, ruling that the actions of the killers were not foreseeable by the school.

SPEAKER_01 29:27

Can you break down the legal precedent of foreseeability for us? Why did the courts decide a school district cannot be held liable for off-campus violence in this specific scenario?

SPEAKER_00 29:38

Civil litigation against institutions in the wake of such tragic events almost always hinges on the strict legal concept of foreseeability in tort law.

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To prove negligence, a plaintiff must show that the institution had a duty of care, breached that duty, and that the breach directly caused a foreseeable injury.

SPEAKER_00 29:56

The courts had to determine if the school district had sufficient, actionable, and specific information to predict that these two specific students would commit a premeditated murder off school grounds over a weekend.

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While the perpetrators were exhibiting some disturbing behaviors or interests, the courts ultimately found that predicting a highly orchestrated off-campus home invasion and murder exceeded the threshold of reasonable foreseeability for school administrators.

SPEAKER_00 30:22

The law generally holds that institutions cannot be held liable for the criminal acts of third parties unless those acts were highly predictable based on prior identical occurrences or explicit known threats targeting a specific individual on their premises.

SPEAKER_01 30:35

The exhaustive criminal appeals process for both individuals span well over a decade, which we will break down chronologically as it involves significant shifts in juvenile justice law.

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In 2010 and 2011, the Idaho Supreme Court heard separate, direct appeals from both defendants.

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Draper sought a vacated conviction or a limited sentence, allowing the possibility of parole after 30 years.

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The court did, in fact, vacate his conspiracy conviction, citing erroneous jury instructions given by the trial judge on that specific charge.

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However, they firmly and unanimously upheld his first-degree murder conviction and his life sentence without parole. Adam Vrchick's initial appeal on similar grounds was also denied by the Idaho Supreme Court.

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The vacating of Draper's conspiracy charge due to flawed jury instructions is a perfect example of a procedural correction by an appellate court.

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It highlights the rigorous nature of appellate review. The court ensures that the exact letter of the law and procedural rules are strictly followed during the trial phase.

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However, because the primary first-degree murder conviction carried a mandatory life sentence without parole under state law at the time, the practical outcome of vacating the secondary conspiracy charge did not alter his incarceration status or his sentence in any meaningful way. The appeals continued to evolve, focusing heavily on constitutional arguments.

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Between July 2015 and March 2016, Adam Shrick sought post-conviction relief before Judge Mitchell W. Brown.

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His primary argument during this phase was that his former defense attorney ignored his parents' explicit wishes to call character witnesses to testify on his behalf during the sentencing phase of the original trial.

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The former attorney countered this claim forcefully under oath, stating that calling those character witnesses would have been a disastrous strategic error.

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The attorney argued it would have legally opened the door, allowing the prosecution to introduce even more damaging suppressed evidence about Adam Hingetz's character on cross-examination.

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Judge Brown reviewed the arguments and ultimately denied the request for relief. In December 2017, the Idaho Supreme Court upheld Judge Brown's denial.

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This specific avenue of appeal delves directly into the constitutional standard of ineffective assistance of counsel, stemming from the Sixth Amendment.

SPEAKER_01 32:53

Adam Hugick's argument was that his legal defense was fatally compromised by the attorney's strategic choices.

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However, legal strategy, specifically the calculated decision to withhold character witnesses to prevent opening the door to devastating rebuttal evidence from the prosecution, is generally highly protected by the courts.

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The courts consistently rule that tactical decisions made by competent legal counsel, even if heavily disagreed with by the client or their family in hindsight, do not inherently constitute ineffective assistance.

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The attorney's primary duty is to mitigate damage, and avoiding a brutal cross-examination of character witnesses is a standard, recognized legal strategy.

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Following the exhaustion of those state-level appeals, the case moved into the federal system.

SPEAKER_00 33:39

From January 2018 to November 2019, a Damsex legal counsel filed a federal writ of habeas corpus.

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This filing heavily referenced the Miller and Montgomery Supreme Court decisions regarding juvenile sentencing guidelines.

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Federal Magistrate Judge Candy W. Dale reviewed the exhaustive writ and denied it.

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Furthermore, in March 2022, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appears thoroughly reviewed the case and upheld the life sentence, cementing the decisions of the lower state and federal courts.

SPEAKER_00 34:08

I want to spend some time on this because it represents a major flashpoint in criminal law.

SPEAKER_01 34:12

How do the Miller and Montgomery decisions alter the landscape for juvenile offenders? And why didn't they apply to Adam Sosik in this instance?

SPEAKER_00 34:19

The invocation of the Miller and Montgomery Supreme Court decisions is highly significant in modern jurisprudence regarding juvenile offenders and the Eighth Amendment, which protects against cruel and unusual punishment.

SPEAKER_01 34:32

The Supreme Court in Miller v. Alabama fundamentally shifted the landscape by ruling that mandatory life sentences without the possibility of parole for juveniles are unconstitutional.

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The court determined that judges must be allowed to consider the unique circumstances of youth, such as brain development, susceptibility to peer pressure, and potential for rehabilitation before imposing a permanent sentence.

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Montgomery View, Louisiana, subsequently made the Miller ruling retroactive, allowing previously sentenced individuals to seek review.

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At Domsix Counsel understandably attempted to leverage these landmark federal rulings to secure a new sentencing hearing.

SPEAKER_01 35:10

However, the Miller decision does not absolutely forbid life without parole for juveniles. It forbids mandatory life without parole, without judicial discretion.

SPEAKER_00 35:19

Exactly. It allows for the sentence if the judge determines the juvenile exhibits permanent incorrigibility.

SPEAKER_01 35:24

The Federal Magistrate and the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals conducted a rigorous review and determined that the original sentencing judge had, in fact, considered Adam Tregashik's youth.

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The appellate courts concluded that the highly specific, deeply premeditated, thoroughly documented, and exceptionally heinous nature of this particular home invasion and murder legally justified the permanent sentence.

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Even when fully accounting for the perpetrator's juvenile status and brain development at the time of the crime.

SPEAKER_00 35:53

We also have details from public records regarding other unexpected legal and public developments.

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In a bizarre legal footnote from the court records, Adam Mikshak and Draper were actually called as potential alternative suspects by the defense in the 2024 trial for the unsolved 2004 murder of a woman named Nori Jones.

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They did not actually testify, and the actual defendant in that trial was found guilty by the jury.

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Notably, they had previously been interviewed about this exact possibility in a 2015 television program titled Cold Justice.

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Additionally, regarding public transparency, in February 2023, the complete unredacted tape recordings and transcripts of their plotting were officially released to the public via the Idaho Public Records Act.

SPEAKER_01 36:36

The inclusion of Draper and Adam Suckick as alternative suspects in a completely separate earlier murder trial is a known, sometimes desperate defense tactic.

SPEAKER_00 36:47

Legally referred to as SODDI or some other dude did it.

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Defense attorneys, tasked with introducing reasonable doubt, will point to known, geographically proximate, and convicted murderers to suggest to a jury that someone else had the capacity and proximity to commit the crime in question.

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It is rarely successful without physical evidence tying them to the new crime scene, which is why it failed in the Nora Jones trial.

SPEAKER_01 37:09

The release of the complete tapes and transcripts in 2023 under the Public Records Act speaks to the enduring, intense public, academic, and legal interest in the primary source materials of this case.

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It provides criminologists and the public unfiltered access to the psychological descent of the perpetrators.

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That enduring interest is vividly reflected in the extensive media saturation surrounding the case over the past two decades.

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Tracing the massive media footprint illustrates society's ongoing complex fixation with the intersection of true crime and media influence.

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Books published on the subject include The Guilty Innocent in 2012, which was self-published by Tori's mother, Shannon Adamsick, attempting to present an alternative view of her son's culpability, and Mormon Sons in 2015 by Pamela Lillian Villemont.

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The documentary footprint is even more expansive, including MSNBC's special In Coldest Blood in 2012, the documentary film Lost for Life in 2013, which exploded juvenile life sentences, a comprehensive feature on Dateline in 2024, culminating in the multi-part docuseries The Scream Murder, a true teen horror story released in recent years.

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The cyclical nature of this media ecosystem is profoundly troubling from a sociological and ethical perspective.

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We are observing an act of extreme violence that was explicitly demonstrably inspired by media consumption. Both the massive news media coverage regarding the Columbine Massacre and the fictional stylized media regarding the film's Scream.

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Now, that very act of media-inspired violence has generated decades of its own extensive, highly profitable media ecosystem.

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Books, documentaries, and docusaries continuously parse the details of the crime, the legal battles, and the psychology.

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While examining the psychological and legal mechanisms is academically and legally valid, this relentless media saturation inevitably grants the perpetrators a version of the exact enduring fame and historical footprint they systematically set out to achieve when they turned on their own camcorder in 2006.

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It creates a disturbing, self-fulfilling prophecy of infamy.

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In our final synthesis of the documentary sources, court transcripts, and public records, we were left with the tragic, permanent loss of Cassie Joe's daughter, a responsible, beloved 16-year-old girl.

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Her life and her future were violently stolen by peers who valued a twisted cinematic fantasy and the pursuit of notoriety over human life.

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We must remind you of the devastating permanent reality that exists behind sensational headlines and stylized documentary titles.

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The legal system has rendered its final judgments, but the ripple effects of that night remain permanent for the family and the community.

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To close our analysis, we leave you with a complex question to consider regarding the ecosystem of information we all participate in? If these two perpetrators actively utilize the blueprints of slasher films and true crime news coverage to plot and execute their atrocities, what responsibility do we, as a society that continuously consumes and produces countless documentaries, books, and programs about these very killers hold in the ongoing cycle of media and violence?

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Where is the precise line between attempting to understand a tragedy to prevent it and inadvertently giving perpetrators the exact enduring fame they sought to achieve?

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Thanks for listening.