Episode 15 6/1/2026

Inhouse interview with JV Head Coach and Assistant Varsity Coach RJ Dixon. He gives us perspective on what it takes to get the guys ready for varsity level competition and a stroll down memory lane to the 2017 Championship season! Also in-house with us tonight is the dynamic shooting guard and tough as nails point guard , Jay Merriweather and Bron Bron Jones ! Also a peek into the West Chester spring league with a quick interview with Coach Benkert 

 Also , my apologies to our fans for the late post of the show . I did run into some technical difficulties which didn't allow me to have our intro or outro on, so its right to the show , enjoy1

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Hey guys, welcome. 32 more minutes. This is Mike. Paulie. Quite a Monday we've had going on here. We are loaded with guests today, loaded. We have uh, geez, Pauly. You know, before we go into our guests, congratulations on your uh, and this is hard for me to say this on your New York Knicks. Oh, yeah. Well, congratulate me if they win the championship, Mike. But the jobs, like Kobe said, gotta win four. It's not over yet. So let me ask you a question. Are you happy? Yeah, but well, absolutely, because every one of my teams I've seen win a championship. And I always said when Reading High wins a state title, I can die. Well, I said if the Knicks win it, I could die happily. You know what I mean? Well, you know, I I've said the same thing about the Sixers, only I've been waiting since 83. Okay, I've been 12 years old. So we we swept him. Um we demolished him. All right, all right. Let's leave it on him. Leave Joelle alone. So anyway, um, we got a great show lined up here. Um uh 2017 state champion, current uh Reading High JV coach and assistant coach RJ Dixon is with us. We got Braun Braun and Jay Merriweather with us today. We're loaded. We are absolutely loaded. I got a little report from Westchester when I was down there last week. So uh let's let's get it kicked off, man. What do you think, Paul? Yeah, let's do it. Mike, quick question. Yeah. Out of the three you named, who's the best shooter in this room? The best shooter in this room. Wow. Well, I'll tell you what. After the display I saw two weeks ago, three weeks ago, down in uh uh Plymouth White Marsh. Was it White Marsh? Oh, yeah. It's Jay Merriwell. He was 12 for 15 from three point. Dude, I didn't think the kid was ever gonna miss. No, yeah, I know. Um Bron can hit threes. Uh, you know, RJ can too, but remember it's something like RJ has a ring. That's true. That is true. He has he does have the ring. So these two behind behind me here, I hope they're hungry for for that ring on their finger. They've got two years. If they're not hungry, we're gonna make their asses hungry, should I tell you that? For sure. Because they got to deal with us. Rick, you know, Rick asked me to go in and talk to these guys in the locker room last year. I think we're both going in this year. Listen, if Reading's losing by 10 at halftime and I'm in that locker room, do you know what's gonna happen? Oh boy, you know it. Yeah, come on now. I'm gonna have to change the the parameters on the on the podcast from uh from PG to extra R-rated for crying out loud. So please don't do that. How the streak going, Mike. I didn't get thrown out of a game this year. Yeah. Well, you almost got thrown out of that fall out of the spring league game. So that doesn't mean anything anyway. I couldn't believe it. That was yeah, that was we'll see you. We'll see you Motep in the regular season. I got your back, buddy. Don't you ever worry about that. I got your back. So anyway, hey, let's let's start off the festivities tonight with uh our first guest. How about it, boy? Let's do it. All right, 2017 state champion. Uh what else? Hey. I never thought we'd say that. I I can't believe it. You know it. State champion. State champion. I I I long for that thing. State champion. Our current junior varsity head coach, an assistant coach for the varsity team, RJ Dixon. How you doing, RJ? Thanks for coming on the show. I'm doing good. Uh pleasure for you guys to have me here on this show, especially with you guys just starting this months ago. And you know, it's always a pleasure to be around people you look up towards. Um, you guys are really great people. Um, and I want you guys to know the alumni still talk about you guys and what you guys used to do, give us candy and stuff like that to the games, and you know, those mentor talks, and you know, talking to us during the games and stuff like that. So I want you guys to know you guys are really uh a role model for these players and to keep doing what you guys are doing. We appreciate that. Really appreciate that. Yeah, absolutely, man. Thanks. Go ahead, Paul. Start it up. All right. So, RJ, um, being the JV coach, uh, you know, you get these kids ready for the varsity level. Do you find it challenging more times than not? Um, yes, I do find it challenging because, you know, we're we're Red and High basketball program. You know, many people just think, oh, it's just another high school basketball team. But for Red and High, most people are gonna know we're a legendary basketball program, known-wise, nationwise. Yeah, we may not have the you know, the four stars or five stars on a year-to-year basis or elite high school sponsors, but we still get the job done. And that's what, you know, I have to do for you know the J V level as Coach P put me there. And you know, when Francis was there too. So my job is is challenging. You know, I gotta deal with kids coming from freshman where they were the man, or they were just blowing teams out, so things were easy. So when they come up to J V, they think it's similar, but that's where I come in being an alumni and you know, somebody that's you know growing in the coaching uh stages of basketball. And that's just what I like to do. Um Brian and then Jay can let you guys know even more when they come up and talk. Hi, I just want to win. I'm a competitor, um, I hold kids accountable, uh, discipline kids, you know, but it's not just for basketball, it's for outside of basketball. Life. It's for life. Absolutely. That's more important than winning and losing, man. You know, you're losing life, you're done. Yep. And that's really that's really our goal for uh the Rena High basketball program. It's not really about basketball. It is about basketball, but we really want to uh change these kids' life and you know prepare them for life after high school and prepare them to be uh a uh role model in the world. You know what? That that that's that's great. You know what? And I think about not only you guys, but you guys not only have the coaches around you, you have the support staff of the Squires Club. And we love you guys always. And and you know, and and I'm gonna give credit where credit's due. You got guys like Paulie who get crazy, but you know what? And you got our podcast who we always try to uplift the kids, uplift. We always say great things. Look, do we say uh do we do we criticize? We do. We do, but we don't get to the point where like we're we're WIP and I'm Angelo Cataldi and I'm gonna rip somebody. It's it's contract it's constructive criticism to try to better uh uh a better mind frame for the for the kids to understand that, hey, look, are we disappointed in something? Absolutely, but you know what? You can learn from the disappointment and not get yourself down. Learn from it, don't make it worse and and and do another bad thing. Capitalize from the learning experience and move forward. Yep. Absolutely. I listen, I've missed family gatherings and got myself in hot water because I went to Reading High games, man. I just I get into it, I love it. Um, but you know, I and the kids behind me could probably tell you that me and Ryan Garnett and a bunch of other ones, we'll yell out to them, like, hey, watch your back or watch the corner or or the plays over, you know, focus on something else. Like, you know, like like like we're because sometimes we're saying stuff to them that they might not see on the court. Same with a coach on the sideline. You're so into the game that an assistant might see something that you didn't. But there's times we'll see something like, hey, this kid's been in wide open in the corner three times now. Yo, get back. He's behind you. Because they might not see that, you know. And uh we're not trying to coach them, we're just we're trying to help them win too, man. We want to see him win. You know, if we see something that can help them that they might not see, hey, Matt Cauldron's infamous 30th time backdoor, hey, he's going backdoor. Yeah, you know? Yeah, Paul and I ain't calling out UCLA, you know what I mean? No, no, no. Because I don't even know what the hell UCLA is, but I hear you guys call it all the time. But no, but like you said, we're just like, hey, there's somebody behind you, man. Well, don't watch the back door, watch the back door. Oh, he's absolutely right. He's but uh it's you know, I these kids bring such joy to to Paul and I. They brought us so much joy, we started a podcast or crying out. You know what I mean? So that that's what these kids mean to us. So um let me ask you a question. What be be besides the championship in 17 and and and besides the presence of Lonnie and all that stuff, what was your greatest moment during that season, during that run? What what was what was your joy 2017? Um I would say the practices. Really? Yes. Because not many people know, but you know, in the county, Lonnie was just out there just to play, and in the big game, you would see the real Lonnie Walker. But and practices, man, we used to go at it like it was there was times where I used to want to walk out, and Coach P's gonna hear this and gonna probably call me after this, but like it was the practices was just tough. It was tough. Lonnie and then Lonnie and everybody knows but don't know. Lonnie in practice is totally different from the games, even in big games. Like in practices, he's throwing out his best in-game dunks and practices, and you know, yelling at uh yelling at players, you know, telling us what to do, you know, putting us through a lot of drills and stuff. Yeah, you know. No, I get it. Yeah, yeah. Hey, Lonnie invited not Lonnie, I'm sorry, Coach P, and I don't know if you know this or not, if you remember this, but Coach P invited um my son to practice, the one you met today, who's 6'2, when he was a little kid, because he did a science, uh, science, social studies project on Lonnie. Yeah, and he invited him to have an interview with him and hang out with him at practice. And he put Lonnie or Lonnie, Coach P brought him into the circle that night. And I remember that dude. It was so cool to have this kid in. He look, this is a kid that went to Governor Mifflin, and he said to me, Dad, I want to move to Reading. How many kids you know? That's probably the only kid because not many kids want to say they want to move to Reading. Yeah, he had the access that no other kid had, and he's like, Dad, I love it here. I this is where I want to be. And I'm like, Really now? Are you sure? Are you sure this is what you want to do? But um those those practices, man, and you know, and I and I'm trying to get Coach P to get back to his old self, which he is, but from 2017, those practices, I'm trying to get Coach B back, Coach P back to that because we need it. And like you guys have been saying, our defense has been soft. And yeah, I kind of, you know, I kind of told P, like, yo, you a little, a little, a little soft. You need to get back to the real friends. But do we need to go over his house and kick him in the butt a little bit? I know RJ, do you agree though that that like you're saying you want coach to get tougher? Your practices in 2017, if they weren't like that, you probably don't win the state championship. It gets you prepared for those big moments. I mean, because we played some real good teams in that run, in that run. Every single one of them games, except the state, state final, we were down double digits. I have time. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, I I I I've always truly believed, and I always heard, you know, old NBA coaches say that in practice, if you have a great practice, it usually comes comes out to the game on how you practiced. So that week of the state championship, practice, nobody said nothing. It was all hard work. Coach P said, oh, we got you gotta do this, everybody would do it. It wasn't no complaining, everybody was on time. Like that was probably besides, but like I said, practice it, but to go back to your question, Mike. I think that week of the state championship was the best I ever witnessed. Wow. Ever. Like you, like Lonnie was in the gym before school, after practice, making sure we were there too. It wasn't just for him to get his, you know, his shine. He was making sure that everybody was locked in, everybody was in tune until our goal. And you know, and most people don't know. And we lost to Harrisburg and the dishes chip. Oh God. I think that helped us, but go ahead. It did help us, but we stayed in the Giants Center in that locker room for about two hours. Really? Two hours, and everybody went around and we just everybody let their egos go. Evelonnie's eagles went. And I think, like you said, that Harrisburg game helped us, but I think it woke us up. Yeah. I was so mad that night. I was too, but but I was too. But sometimes they say you have to lose in order to win. In order to win. Because sometimes, sometimes if you win, like I like like the 32-in-one team in 2023, obviously is the greatest team ever. I mean, I know you run the 2017 team, but you know, record-wise, everything, but that year kind of worried me because it's like, yo, we won like 24 in a row. And at one point you're like, wait a minute. You don't want to get that in your head, like, yo, nobody can beat us, nobody's gonna touch us. And I mean, they didn't waver, but it's like that Harrisburg loss. Like, you just let your egos out, and then boom. I mean, you won the bigger, the bigger prize anyway. Harrisburg can have that district. Yeah. But you know, I that that night, I remember leaving the Giants Center. I was so mad that I'm going, I can't even, dude, I'd have to change the parameters of of this podcast to like super R-rated if I told you what I said. Because my my wife is like, Are you leaving? I said, I am leaving right now. And Micah Parsons was on that team. Sure was. And I'm sitting here going, You have got to be kidding me. This is the same old reading over and over and over again. And this is what it's crazy. Michael Parsons didn't really score double digits that whole year. No. And that game. No, that game he went off. That was yep. He went crazy. That in 2017, uh, round one was that Cootstown University. Yep. Penn Gelby paid uh something. North Penn? Yeah. Yeah. North Penn, yeah. And I looked at my buddy Tony at halftime and I said, are we ever going to win a state title? I said, we're losing in the first round. I said, What's happening here, man? And it's just, I don't know, man. He just, the adversity you guys battled. And I get it, people say, well, Lonnie, no, listen, I'm going to truly agree. If Lonnie doesn't have the supporting cast he has, you guys will win a state championship. I agree. Especially when Nesby came over, too. Nesby was a, you know, a another shooter. Because remember, the year before they played a box of one on Lonnie and Redding couldn't figure it out. Yep. But when you added other shooters on the team, you can't box them on somebody. But freed him up. Right. Freedle everybody up. Yeah. So RJ, I wanted to ask you. So no one in 2017, the first team in the hit in this storied program's history that's never won a state championship. They've gotten close and they have all these wins, and everybody knows how. When you were on that bus and you saw all of us outside the Gaigo, waiting for you guys to come in, what was that feeling like? That was the best feeling ever. Um, because we were all on the bus and we all got emotional again because we was like, yo, man, like we really did this for the city, you know, because everybody always talks bad about us, you know, criminals and the poorest. And so, you know, once we came back and we seen that half the city was at the high school, and and the city allowed us to stay an extra hour and two to celebrate, we was like, yo, man, we really You did it, man. Yeah, you did it, man. I'm telling you. Oh, yeah. We were getting the cue that they were like, oh, they're about five minutes away and everybody's getting ready. I mean, it was just it was it was bedlam. I think I went to bed at 5 30 in the morning. I just couldn't sleep. I was just like, well, we didn't go to sleep. Listen, talk about emotions, but uh I I was bawling my eyes out because I'm like, man, it's this is just my my day started at 5 30 in the morning. I couldn't sleep. And I'm where I lived at that time, I could see the giggle and writing high from my driveway. And I'm like, I kept pointing to it, and I kept pointing to it. I'm going, this is the day. And then we we tailgated all afternoon and at the Giant Center. And I'm like, I'm sitting there with Purnell Evans, who was my best friend at the time, and and it was I I I all I could think was my grandfather. I I just kept wishing he was sitting there aside of me because that's the guy who took me all those games and and and and put me in the position to love reading basketball as much as I do. And it it it's it's still emotional to me. I mean I can't. I still watch the game to this to this day. Oh yeah. My son got to see live three state titles. Yeah, lucky him. And and in 2017, you know, I I was ner like I wasn't nervous for the state championship. Every other round I was. But now, RJ, so do you guys like in that moment, do you get nerve as nervous as like me? So that that day, we knew we were gonna win. Because we told ourselves, like I said, we stayed at the last time you were there. We left, we left, we lost. So we told ourselves we're not losing. And it's easy to say that, and everybody would say that, but we worked, like I said, we worked hard those four or five days before that state championship so hard that we knew we wasn't losing. And especially, obviously, you had a five-star. So when he's on top of his, yeah, you're you're on top. And 9,500 people, probably 9,200 in red and black. I mean, how shit? Um and that was even the red sea, that was beautiful. When he when Lonnie dunked that ball and that place went ballistic, were you on were you on the floor when he dunked the ball? Oh I just came out. Okay. That was a foul trouble. When he dunked that ball and the and and the crowd went ballistic. Like, don't make me emotional over here, man. I love this man. What what what was you what were you feeling when that because I I my I had chills going through my body like I do right now. I'm about to say I have chills right now too. It was I'd never been in an arena that loud. Um, so when he did that dunk, one, I was mad because I'm just like, dude, your dunks in practice, like threw it in the game. But when he did that dunk, and then you know how Alani gets his little one clap. Yeah, sorry for that. One, it was two minutes left, and we we had a good seven-point lead. But when he did that dunk and he did his clap with it too, I knew the game was officially over. It didn't matter what they did. I knew it was. So, did you want a better dunk, is what you're saying. I wanted his I wanted his 360 dunks that he does in practice, and I wanted him to do that. But then if he misses it and we lose by one, then you know, then we're Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right. No, but Mike, I I I might have told this on one of the other podcasts. So after the Christmas tournament, my buddies all said to me, yo, I think what you should we should do is we should buy state championship tickets. So the next the next day I had awful work and I called the Giant Center, and I've got 40 tickets, the first two rows behind the bench. And I told everybody on Facebook, listen, I put I put the main ones aside for like my son, my dad, everything. And I had like 18 tickets left. I said, first come, first serve. Maybe the money, boom. And there we were, man. And it we got there, and it was like, I'm glad I did it. I didn't know you then, Paul. Oh, yeah, you would have had one. I know I would have. I should have known you then. That's that's what I'm talking about. But then, Mike, to go back, now you just remind me to go back to your other question. My most remember is just, you know, you know, that that season tickets you had to be, you had to go during the week. Oh, yeah. So you know, it was just a blessing, you know, teacher to be like, look outside, look out. Yeah. I remember the one game. If you know the Geigo, where the Geigo front doors are, the line was to the end of Oly Street. Oly Street. And we seen that and we was like, yo, we can't let this city go. You had people calling off work, uh leaving work just to get tickets. Yeah. I was one of them. I was one of them. You'd have people from all over the county that were from Wilson, Exeter. They were buying Reading shirts or red shirts, putting an R on them just to root for Reading and go to that game. It was it was crazy. I mean, there were people there, and I'm like, what are you doing here wearing a Reading shirt? Are you from Exeter? They're like, I'm rooting for Reading, man. They're this is awesome to watch. I'm thinking, hey, hop on board, man. Yeah. But did you guys know Lonnie tore his meniscus during the state championship game? Oh, there were rumors. Yeah, he did. Oh my god, I did not know that. What quarter was that in? Uh I think it was either the second quarter or the third. He came to the timeout and he's like, Yo, my knee. And we're like, What do you mean your knee? He's like, he told it's just when Terry was our trainer, and Terry was checking it out, and he was like, Yeah, you torn something. And then obviously Lonnie was still playing, but it wasn't like a road, too. It was like partially torn, but yeah. He wasn't coming out. He wasn't coming out. Oh, there's no way. Wow, I did not know that. That whole yeah. I heard that. I that's a rumor I did hear that. Yeah, it's true. I don't believe he Paul, the man who knows everything, didn't I? I did not know that. Really? Thank God nobody at the game told me that because I probably would have had a heart attack thinking that he ain't gonna be 100%. We're gonna lose. But then it would, like I said, it was it's so good. And and I hope everybody knows Lonnie took a sacrifice. He sure did. Because you all think he was going back and forth between 18, 15, and 13 in the nation. Yeah. But that reason why was because he wasn't we're not on a national scene. You know, we'll probably need a game or two in here, but you know, he was only killing in the EYBL. Like that year, his last year, he was averaging 32. And look, and and look, like you're saying, I didn't know this, but he's played with a tournamentiscus, whether it's partially or whatever, and he's got a full ride to a division one college that could could ruin his career. You know what I mean? So, and that's so it's gonna lead up to the so I obviously you guys know after that he went to McDonald's, all American. Yes, yeah, killed there. Yeah, obviously in the game they didn't want to give him the ball. We all know that. But then remember how Lonnie tore uh his ACL in uh uh Miami, yes. Part of it was from from that. Wow, Mr. Lonnie was well worth it. You know, you know you would admit that. He didn't he see what that man sacrificed for his city, for sure. And he still gives back, he comes all the time and and and it's just he loves his city, and um I'm sure when he comes down, I'll probably get him over here to talk. I hope he loves his city a lot, and you know, he wants to do the best. It's just right now he has to take care of what he has to do, and yeah, for sure. But yeah, but RJ, we definitely want him in-house. Nah, I I will talk to him. I mean, he'll do that. Yeah, he'll do it. He'll do it. I mean, him and Cohen have a have a bond, and I'm sure, like I said, when you walk around, you'll see the it's it's like uh Lonnie Walker corner over there. I see it. Yeah, that's that's Lonnie's corner over there, and that's my grandfather's corner over there, and and all it's but no, they they have a great relationship, and and yeah, it's so I I just hope one day we can get him over here and I got that. I'll talk to him. I'm glad he's not playing for the Spurs anymore. That'd be tough. Yeah, what would you do? Paul, that's a good question. Is this just I think I asked you this? Is this the same thing? Like if your kid was playing against Reading High, you'd you'd hope he'd score 30 and lose by one. It's the same thing. Listen, he Lonnie won what I needed him to win, the Reading High State Championship. He ain't beating my Knicks, buddy. You can average 35 a game, but the Knicks gotta win it, man. I mean, that's the way I would look at it. You know, I I love the kid, but he he won what he won the biggest one. Reading high state championships. That's bigger than the Knicks. RJ, thank you for taking us down there. Always a pleasure. Absolutely. It was it was great to have you on the show, and we got to do it again, man. Oh, yeah. Thank you. Awesome, awesome. Again, RJ, thank you for and good luck this upcoming season. Please come join us again. Gosh, I will. Everybody, RJ Marr. RJ. RJ Dixon again. Thanks again, buddy. Thank you. Holly, what a great interview having RJ here. Uh for sure. I'm still baffled, man, that uh I didn't know that. Yeah. Yeah, I I'm really surprised. The guy that knows everything about everything about Reading basketball. Well, yeah, but you know, hey, I have I have this picture with Cohen and RJ back in 17 when Cohen was a little kid. And and I got it, I got them together in January. I think it was it may have been during the no, I think it was after the Christmas tournament. Cohen was back from Christmas break, and uh, and now Cohen's uh a little taller than RJ now. And it was good to see those kids. I got I got the pictures uh right aside to each other in my in my phone. It's it's pretty cool seeing them. It's really neat to to see these kids get back together, or kids, kids see these two guys get back together again. Mike, you know what you should do. You should get another picture with them. They each have a state championship. Yeah, that's right. Your son has one for Bifflin Baker. That would be cool. That would be cool, yeah. And and there's and they're and they're gold. And they're gold. Right, but and because Mike, people don't realize how hard it is to win a state championship for anything. No matter what it is. I mean, it it it's it's it's just it's remarkable when you win a state championship for anything. You know the work that's put in. It's sure, and you'll never forget that, man. The rest of your life. I'll tell you, you know, talking about work. I'll tell you, these kids today, and and and and I'm so proud to go watch these kids. The the amount of work, and you know, it's not even about the basketball. I mean, I look, I love watching these kids play, but I know that you know, I I'll use your term, fair weather fan. They just come to watch, they pay their three bucks or five bucks and watch. But I know what these kids, I know the value, and what these kids put in every day to to make them what they are, and and and I truly appreciate everything they put in. And and good God bless their parents because they're running them here and there and and putting them on planes and taking them to the different tournaments around the country. I know Bron Braun just came back from one, I think it was in Indianapolis. But uh was it were you in Memphis? Were you in Tennessee? Oh, there he is, right there. So anyway, our he might there was a lot of traveling, a lot of NBA players that were there, I saw. So uh hey, and our next uh our next two guests are uh both guards on the uh varsity team. Uh one is a phenomenal shooting guard, and the other one is our uh one of the greatest point guards I've ever seen. Uh you got Bron Braun Jones and uh Jay Merriweather. Welcome to the show, guys. Thank you, thank you. Uh is that it? Just thank you. I think I I think these two are gonna be with JO. I will predict that they're all three of them will be first team Alberts this year. Without question. Without question. Well, let's be honest. Who's a better shooter in the county than Jay? And who runs the show and plays defense better than Braun? I know Redding High Basketball podcast, you're biased. Well, come talk to me with your receipts after it's all over with. Because I'm being honest, like who's a better shooter in the county than Jay? Who plays defense better and runs the show better than Braun? And who's gonna be a better player than anybody? I don't think any of you have that. I mean, if you have that answer, I want to tell you. That's up for debate. The blue beef debate. Any anybody can anybody can text our text our show or put it on Facebook. Let us know. I get it. It was tough last year at McCoy, and you know, some other players that have graduated and stuff, but I mean they're gone. This is this is the up and coming here, man. They're only 11th grade, everyone. Two more years. So fair weather is like Mike said out there. I know you're gonna hop on the wagon for the next two years, and then when they graduate, you'll disappear again. We know how that goes. That's inevitable. So um, so what do you guys think of uh of your chances uh bringing the program back to uh where where it belongs? Where it belongs. Um I think we got a good chance because if we keep putting in the work and like showing up every day somewhere dedicated to what we want to do, we will have a good chance of being able to win. Yeah, it's just about building together, staying together as a team, having everybody show up, playing together in the summer and showing what we can do, you know, trying to get back to what we run high used to be. But we're still building that culture and our habits to stay together and be together. Are you confident that you guys are headed in that direction? Yeah. Yeah, I feel like we have the talent. Like we have the talent, I feel like we have the pieces. Like we're not the oldest team, not we're not the tallest team, but maybe it's all about heart and playing together and being there for each other. For sure. For sure. All right, Brian, this one's for you. So, what, if anything, have you learned from your brothers, X and Trey, playing for Reading? Because you know they've played for Reading. So what have you learned from them when you put that uniform on and you play for Reading? Um the biggest thing is probably toughness that you never let someone toughen you. You never let someone like bully you because you want to be the enforcer and be the guy that no one wants to go again. Oh, I like that. Nice, Jay. Um the quiet demeanor you have on the court, do you ever get angry or show emotions? Nah, sometimes I do get angry. I started to show my emotions toward the end of the season, but most of the time I'm like laid back and chill, but I have times like that. I have times like that. Yeah, because I always, you know, like I said, like he he always has that cool demeanor. Whether he has 25 points, whether he has four points, or he's in foul trouble or whatever. It's like he has that sick. He's a quiet killer, man. Yeah, he is a quiet killer. He scares me. Baby faces. Just don't get too close to that left arm. Hey, don't just come on now. Don't don't don't hurt that left arm. We need that. I got ice in the top uh thing in there. We're gonna wrap this thing in bubble wrap and ice, but it's it's crazy how like Braun, I watched and I was in the front row going nuts for your two brothers that played. And Jay, I was in the front row watching your dad play, and even saw your dad play at Alvernia. Now, your dad, your dad was a good player, really good of Alvernia too, taller than you, but he can't shoot like you. Where did the shooting come from? It came from my mom. She was a real good shooter. Wasn't she a thousand-point scorer? Is that did I hear that right? She was close. Close, okay. Oh, so you got that from mom. Okay. That's a good answer, man. That's a really good answer. And Braun, I I Bron, I do see your the toughness. Uh X was the exact same way, man. X had no, I would always talk to Rick about X, and he said, you know what? X has all the talent in the world. Just got to put it all together, defensively and offensively. And he had it. And he was that dog defensively on the court, man. He was, you know, he he wouldn't let nobody bully him, like you said. He would play defense, he would, you know, clap and get ready. And he would he was he was that dude, man. Yeah, it's just about you know running to learn learning when to flip the switch at the right time and knowing when to be on the court and off the court and what situation is to be that dog. And one situation is not to, but for me, sometimes just I'd be I'd be out of it, I'm just in one mode and have to go. That's what we want, man. So I remember watching you. In fact, your dad has a great picture of uh me watching the game with you sitting in front of me. I don't know if you've ever seen that picture. I'm so like laser locked into the game. Your dad sent it to me. I thought it was a pretty cool picture. I remember you, and I think I said this to the whole team. I remember when you were a little kid running around the giggle and and but you were paying attention. How do I I'm trying to figure out a way to say this. What drew you to the program? What what was what was the thing that that brought you like, man, I want to be that? That's what I want to be. Um I mean I bet around those guys like RJ, my brother, since a little kid has always been around basketball. My dad went to Youth League. So just seeing the atmosphere and the passion to play basketball and be there for each other and winning games and everybody showing love. Like, how come you know what to be? That's that's exactly what I wanted to hear from you. How about you, Jay? Um, growing up as a kid, I always came to running hot games and I always paid attention. So watching the games, seeing what people would do, it would like motivate me to want to play and keep playing, and then having my dad and my mom teach me what to do, and like my uncle, them teaching me how to play basketball, it has helped me. That's awesome. That's that's great. The family. It's a family affair, man. I forget. I forgot I forget it. I watched his uncle play too. Jordan Mary, rather. Um yeah, so so so now I I have a question for both of you better environment at Wilson or at Muhlenberg? Um I was thinking Muhlenberg. Really? Because Millenberg. But because Millenberg, there's tension like in the crowd. There's tension like on the court. Wilson, they they uh they saw it. Okay. All right. All right. Wow, I I'm okay. I kind of thought it would be. I kind of thought it would have been Muhlenberg. My son thought it would definitely be Wilson. I think it's the band box. I think it's uh the the small encased over at Mühlenberg with it so packed. Where over at Wilson, you you have room to breathe over there. Yeah, that's true. I mean, see, these kids don't remember the old Wilson because the old Wilson Wilson it was half the size of Muhlenberg. The old Wilson gym is now their library, you know that the old your dad, your dad will remember and your dad will remember the old Wilson. That was a band box. You talk about band boxes. Holy smokes. Oh, yeah, for sure. But uh, yeah, um I'll tell you what, man. Do you do you uh you do you work on your shot a lot? Are you always throwing up the how many shots a day are you throwing up, you think? A day, uh try to get around like between like three to five hundred. Really? Yeah, I I work on my shot. Yeah, wow. So you know what? We heard that they were trying to change your shot last year, and you came back to the way you used to shoot it. Thank God. Because the display you put on three weeks ago, I'm like, don't ever change what you're doing. Please don't. Because if somebody tries to change you, I want to meet them. Because I'm gonna, we're gonna talk. We are gonna talk. Don't change nothing. Bubble wrap that arm and not change his show. And Jay, and Jay, you know what? I I say this to every single person. Summer league, regular season playoffs. I say it to everybody I sit with. I say it to Mike. I I say, you know, Jay will miss like two or three threes. I'm like, oh keep shooting. Keep shooting, man. It's gonna go in, it's gonna drop, it's gonna fall. Keep shooting. You know, and and I and I very rare see you take a shot. Does the crowd at the Geigle in a close game motivate you guys more, or do you or do you block the fans out? I I usually block the fans out. I just stay focused in the game and just do what I have to do. For me, I think it's just a sense of locking in and hearing what people are saying about locking in knowing it's the time. It's the moment, you know it's time to play. So you guys don't hear me? Now we hear you. Alright, rapid fire for both of you. Uh go to midnight snack. Honeybuns. Oreos. What are you listening to before a game? Um something calm like Drake Times. Drake and Raw. Drake and Rawig. LeBron or Jordan? LeBron. LeBron. Who wins one-on-one between you two? Me. Braun Braun. I'd be winning. I'd be winner. Alright, you guys play ten times. What is it? 7-3, me. Favorite pizza spot. Um, like a New York style type pizza. I was like dominoes. I was like dominoes. If you could sit down for 10 minutes with anyone living or not living, famous or not, who would it be? Oh, Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson or LeBron? Michael Jackson. Okay. I'm picking LeBron. I'm picking LeBron. Alright. Black unis or red ones that we wear? Black. Black. Who you got? Spurs or Knicks? I got the Knicks. I got the Knicks. I don't want the Knicks to win, but I don't know when it'd be different. Alright. Alright. Alright, guys. This was great, man. Thank you so much. My prediction's gonna come true. You guys are gonna be first team, all Burks. We're gonna win the county. We're gonna win the district. We're gonna go to the state championship. We're gonna win by three. We're gonna be waiting for you guys now when the bus comes in. Trust me, we're gonna run the show next year. I sure hope so. I sure hope so. Yeah, we're hoping, man. We love watching you grow up. We love watching you kids grow up and uh and putting your stamp on the program. We're not on the program. It's been three years. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah. For sure. If there's anything, if there's anything you want to say, either one of you guys, to to your to the fans, to the to people that uh that come to support you guys, not in squires. Anything you guys like to say to them or anybody, feel free. Here's your opportunity. Um I'll just like to say thank you to everybody that comes to support, especially the squires. Like me seeing them after the game is just like a good feeling to me. And I like when I see all the squires members and all the people that come to support throughout the city. I just want to say thank you too. It's a blessing just for all the supporters and people being around us supporting us even through the ups and downs. You know, we're now do your job, but it's I promise gonna change this shit. And if you want to rely on any two people, it's me and Jay. Well, we do. Well, we do, we will continue. And we will continue to guys guys, thank you for uh your patience today. I know it's been tough uh with the editing part here. We've had some issues here, but uh your guys uh you guys and and your and your your your pops have been uh been truly patient with us and we truly appreciate it. RJ, thank you, RJ also. Thanks, thanks guys. Um it this has been one hell of a night with interviews, and we truly appreciate you. Absolutely, guys. Thanks a lot. Thank you, guys. Thank you. Thank you, guys. Thank you for having us. All right, guys, take care of it. What a great you know what both interviews were were great tonight. Um the kids were not kids young men were uh you know what those were the answers always expecting Lebron, I I knew it wasn't Jordan. I knew uh it was gonna be Oreos, and and I was kind of surprised about the Domino's pizza. What about you? I don't know. I kind of figured because like you know, like when we were kids, it was Domino's Pizza Hut, Papa John's. Um Papa John's. I mean, I guess it depends. Um, because Domino's is easy, you know, too. You're if you're sitting there playing, let's say you're playing video games on a Friday night and a couple of your basketball buddies are over, you're like, I'll just order a pizza from Domino's. They bring it over, you know, and then just you know, it just hits the spot. You know, your hungry's hits the spot. You know, they're both skinny too. So you know, so so a slice or two of Domino's for Jay might be might be enough rather than getting a big slice from uh one of these other places, like they're probably burning 5,000 calories a day playing basketball every day. But uh you know, I'll tell you what, those those kids are are so well-rounded, so they're they're such good, yeah. Good kids. I I can't stress it enough. The the parents have done a fantastic job. Very respectful. Um I I look again they're better human beings than they are basketball players. You know, they're better human beings than they are basketball players. I I I can't stress it enough how how much I I really respect and really, really have an affinity for these kids. Very respectful. I can't say it enough. And two, you know, when when Mike said, Alright guys, this is your this is your shot. Say whatever you want. And you know how they think, you know, that the Squires Club, you know, and Braun said about one of them said about you know, going to see the Squires Club members after the game. He loves that, and everybody that supports them and that, like these kids realize the people that support them day in and day out, like the the the the they don't have to thank us, but that's that's just the way they are. They're like, you know what? We're out here on the basketball court, giving you guys enjoyment, you know, and you guys are coming to support us. You don't have to, you have other things you could do. And you know, just just forget on the basketball court. Like you said, they're just respectful young men, you know, very, very respectful and polite, and you know, and and the friendship them two have you could see how they've been together since since they were in elementary school, you know, on the court and off the court, you know. That's Miles and Ruben right there, you know. That's Miles and Ruben right there, you know. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. But um, you know, but uh you know, and you know, it going down memory lane with RJ was uh was was pretty cool. I and again, it took me back to when my son was what uh eleven and all the fun and uh we had sharing uh Car rides to all those big games. And and boy, I I was really surprised that you didn't know that fact about Miami. And I didn't even like you said, oh, you didn't hear that. I never even heard I I know when he was at Miami he tours Meniscus fully. Right. So right, right. Listen, I just had surgery for the second time on the same leg for Meniscus. This guy's this kid's playing basketball. So you know, but what he sacrificed knowing that something popped, and they told him, hey, something popped in there. You tore something, that he's sitting there in the third quarter saying, you know what, in front of 9,500 people, all that this city, I'm I'm gonna continue to play. And possibly risk. Risk is gonna be right. Right. I mean, you know, I know I I did not know that. Honest, honestly, I know I didn't never even heard a rumor about that. I didn't I did not know that. That's crazy. You know, I did not know that. That's crazy. You know, and after we uh stopped uh recording, RJ had uh made an offer to us, and I think it should be a fantastic show that we kind of relive the whole season of 2017. We can do a show where we relive game by game and and get his accounts from you know, here's a player that played a lot of minutes on that team, and we get all the insight information that people aren't privy to. Can you imagine that kind of showpole? Can you imagine that kind of showpole? All we'd have to do is sit here. Oh, that would be great. Like you guys heard the week leading up to the state championship, how practice was and and and it showed in the state championship game, you know, just how everybody after that loss to Harrisburg sat and sat there for two hours and let their egos out, and just you know, and it's crazy because when he said that it's crazy because when he said that and they let their egos out, and and you know, the next time they were in that arena um they won the state championship. Well, to turn to Paige, the Knicks last year, when they lost to game seven to Indiana, the new coach this year, Mike Brown, played a video and said, How do you guys I want you guys all to tell me how you felt when you lost this game knowing that you're not going to the finals. And they said before before the playoffs started this year, they watched that video and it's in their head like we don't want that feeling ever again. So, you know, when they lost at the at Hershey to Harrisburg, you know, Lonnie and everybody rallied around each other and was basically like, listen, we just let uh they didn't let it when they say this, you know, they didn't let a city down, but that that's how these kids feel. They felt as though they left everybody down that was there and they didn't want that feeling again. And everything was about the city. Well, everything was about the city. You know, look at their shirts, protect the city. You know, so it I I understand what what their meaning was and and why they felt that way, dude. What they did for the city, even if they had if they would have lost, they didn't let the city down. What they did for the city was so uplifting. Um and and they brought people together, they brought communities together that were never together before. So though what they did was also a positive. I would love to have him come back and talk about that 27 because sometimes when you even as a as a fan, when you get so into it, I don't want to say you forget it, but there's moments where it's like, wait, did that really happen? Oh, that's right, it did happen. You know, like like the game at the Santander Arena against Perky Oman Valley. All all little white kids, they've ran their offense perfectly. Reading never had the lead until three minutes ago when Lonnie dunked it and the place went nuts. And you know, there too, you're thinking, wow, are we is our season gonna end in our own city down the street from where we and it's just like you know, like he was saying, you know, and he said he just said this, and I'm sitting here thinking, wait a minute. Oh yeah, I do remember that now. When he said Lonnie dunked, yep, and I'm thinking, all right, well, uh I was thinking about Odysse's dunking about in in 2023 and over time. I'm thinking, oh, that's right, when Lonnie did dunk, I'm thinking, but there was a lot of time on the clock. And he's right, like that dunk kind of solidified it, and everybody in the crowd knew this is it. We did it. But I I don't want to say I forgot about when Lonnie dunked, but now that I remember him saying that, it's like, yeah, I do remember that moment now. No, I I get it. It's it, you know, we remember the wind, remember it, but you don't remember kind of the little things that kind of slide past. But you know, I did I'm telling you that when when RJ started talking about that stuff, and I'm thinking, my God, I I can't believe it's been that long ago since that day happened. And uh wow, I I just it it brings chills to my body every time I think about it, every time we are gonna have him back. And it's gonna be a just a a a show talk about that that show is just gonna be talking about the 2017. This is crazy too. So in 2017 when I got in the car with my son and that I I tried to turn on WEU to listen to the postgame, and it was kind of over. You know, it was over with because they celebrated whatever, and you really couldn't pick up on it. Pick up on the um actual, you know, it was kind of like distorted in that because you read of Hershey, whatever. So as I hit the button on my car to to get it off AM and go back on to serious radio that I have, there was a song that was on there, and on this on the screen of my car it said after party. And this was a song called After Party. Some some some girl, some young girl sings it, I don't know. And I thought to myself, let me just listen to this. And anytime I hear that song now, I think of the 2017 T. And and the the the song is called After After the After Party. And it's like, it's like, you know, we're gonna stay up all night, and and and and it's like, oh my god, that's what we did. It was like perfect. It's just yeah, it's yeah, to relive those moments, man. It's it's relive those moments, man. They're sacred, man. For sure. Those moments are sacred to me. Sacred. Boy, I hate to move on, but I guess we have to, you know. But anyway, any well, hey, it's not moving on, it's moving forward. And again, we will have that show. I guarantee you, Paulie, we are having him back, and it'll be a show dedicated to the 2017 season. So, moving forward, I traveled down to Westchester. Uh Paulie had to stay late at work last week, so he couldn't make it. But I traveled down to uh Westchester last Wednesday to see our boys uh play in the spring league game. Um they actually won both games, I believe. I'm trying to remember. I know they played Haverford. They played Harrod Harrodin. Yeah, Harrod Tin, yes. Yeah, I've never heard of them before. But uh they played well. Um Braun Braun. Um we just had the kid on the show. The kid never never lets up. He never lets up. This is this is May, okay? This is the end of May. Two months after the season, two and a half months after the season's over, and this kid's still diving for balls. This guy's still throwing those long passes, he's still playing as hard as you could possibly play. And there's no consequence to the game. There's no consequence to the game. All they're doing is playing hard. And and they don't stop playing hard. That's what I'm trying, that's the point I'm trying to make is this team doesn't play. They they play hard regardless if it's May or if it's March, the end of March in a state championship game. It doesn't matter. And that's what I love about this team. That's what I love about this program. Um, Nasiah, the kid is making stride over I the strides this kid has made is remarkable. It the kid is going after every board. Fearless, fearless, fearless, fearless. I I can't say enough good things about it. Like I said, he he he's putting in minutes here in in in uh spring and in the summer. Um so he's he's he's he's gonna be on the varsity team and big and and have have big minutes come uh the winter time. But you know, it's like RJ said Yeah, we play our hearts out in that, but we need to get that that defense intensity back. Um you know, they're kind of seeing it lacked in in certain games and in practice, which it's good, it's a good thing that it's happening now because we have all this time till the till the winner. Yeah. Um but you know, Rick Perez coach teams always had the defense, you know what I mean, with the Chapman brothers and everyone, you know. Um so you know, we need to work on the rebounding and we need to we need that defense intensity back because that that's what not only wins games for Reading, but it intimidates people. Like, man, these guys are like they're like that. They're like that Hornet's nest when you when when you were younger. And you saw a hornet's nest and you threw a rock at it, and everybody thought, oh, this is cool. And then and then all the hornets are coming out and you take off running. You know, and and we got to get back to that, which which you know we will. Um Brombronn, yeah, like you said, man, he never runs out of energy. He's just he runs the show. Um Nessiah, um, RJ, he he he's he's been he's been getting minutes. Um you who's been uh here's a kid, eighth grade. He'll be going to ninth grade, is uh the the youngster A D. Yeah, kids been showing up. He's kids these kids playing. He's working out. Um does he need work he's in eighth grade. I mean, of course, you know, when he's coming in to be a freshman, you're playing against the big time, big time now. Uh like RJ said, you know, it's tough for him as a JV coach because you're getting kids from eighth, ninth grade now that they were the man, and now you're coming up and you're playing against kids that are as good as you, if not a little better. And you're you're you're not that man anymore, but you're gonna score 25. Um so but he he's young. Um the summer's gonna help him. Um come winter time, you know. He's he continue to hit the weight room and that. He'll he'll be he's 6'4, guys. He's in eighth grade. He's this kid's gonna be he's gonna be decent. Yeah, I think the kid keeps developing. Hopefully, this kid keeps developing and and and getting bigger and stronger, and and somebody works with him down low. Because that's what the that's what the program's been missing, is a big guy down low. And and believe me, having that having that freedom down low with a big guy opens up a ton of opportunity outside. The kid shows up. He shows up, he's willing to learn, and you know, he's he's he's working. So that's all gonna pay off. When when you're showing up and you want to play basketball and you want to work, it's just gonna, you know, the more you keep doing that year round, man, by the time you're a senior, I mean, you're gonna see how much better you got from eighth grade to twelfth when you just keep working on your game and keep you know, you gotta want to play basketball. Well, you know what's funny is I caught up with well, you know what's funny is I caught up with uh after the games, I caught up with Coach Bankard. And uh he he gave me a couple minutes of his time, and uh I recorded it um an interview with him after the games, and uh here's what uh Coach Bankard had had to tell me after after those games. I'm here with Coach Bank. I'm here with Coach Bank after uh two games down here in Westchester. Coach, I just want to ask you uh what do you think about the uh the emergence of uh, you know, you can do that. Appreciate you too. Thanks for coming out. Thanks, Bob. I mean so all encouraging I mean everything all encouraging, Polly. Everything encouraging. Um what he says about AD. I I I like what he says about A D. Uh, you know, the kid being young and and pains to have with A. Look, there's growing pains to have with an eighth grader. You know that as well as I do. Um but it it's all encouraging. Everything looks good, everything's on an uphill incline. So I I and with with Coach Bankard uh working him out and and and and he has uh the football coach getting him in the right direction. I'm not too worried about him at all. I said RJ, I meant uh Coach Bankert was the one that said that about A D. Um No, I mean, and he said look look, the kid gets good grades, it's a good kid. Um that that's first and foremost because obviously kid and everyone else out there, if you're not getting good grades, you ain't gonna play basketball. Um, but when when when I heard about this kid, we were at the Geigle. I I don't remember what game it was. Mike said, Paulie, come here, come here. What's up he goes? I'm gonna introduce you to somebody. I'm like, what's this? He's like, This is AD. I'm like, wow. And his dad was standing behind us, and and I'm and I'm looking at him like, this kid's in eighth grade and he's six foot four. So I mean, listen, it's not all about height, um, but you know, he's got he's got the size. I mean, he's like I said, he's eighth grade, he's getting he's got plenty of years to work. All summer this summer is gonna help this kid. Uh he's you know, he's gonna be conditioning, he's gonna be lifting weights, he's gonna be banging with bigger guys down in the Philly area and down at Bear Park against 30 and 40-year-old guys who used to play basketball in Berks County before. It's gonna help this kid. So, yeah, man. I mean, hey, so it we got we got a lot of young kids coming up. Um so I mean, like I said, we we we we reload, man. We we reload, man. Yes, we do. Excuse me, yes we do. It it's it's not uh rebuild, you're right, reload. And you know what, there's a whole bunch more from what I've understand, uh from what people are telling me, down further down the pipeline. So um good things are coming, not just in the near future, but in the this year's future too. You know, um all summer this year's team's gonna gel together and um you know come come December, it's gonna be a whole different story, guys. You know, they're gonna have I'm just gonna throw it out there. They're gonna have I don't know 25, 30 games, maybe more under their belt the rest of this spring and summer. Um let's just say 50. Okay. Which, you know, when these kids are together, I mean that that's gonna help them, man. You know what I mean? You're going up against good competition up in Allentown, down in Philly Live, uh uh at Bear Park, like you know what I mean. You're going up against Odysse and Miles and Ruben and Nico and Morrow and the Chapman brothers. I mean, come on, man. You know, you're going up against Kiba Mitchell and and and um uh you know, that killings from Muhlenberg. You know, I mean that that that league down there is gonna help them too. They're gonna go up against guys that are older and that won state championships and stuff, man. I mean, it's it's this year's team's gonna be really good. I mean, just we just gotta put it all together. Do you do you expect to see a better disciplined team, like less fouls? Uh I I should say a more a more disciplined team than we saw uh this previous year. Good question. I'm gonna say I hope so. Um a lot of people ain't gonna like this, but what you know me. Berks County, it ain't gonna matter. They call everything on us because we play aggressive defense. So I mean, let's throw Burks County out of the way. Um I hope so, Mike, because there were a lot of times, like we said this past season where we can't have guys with two fouls in the first two minutes of the game. Or three fouls right before halftime. You know what I mean? We can't foul and the guys that had the fouls weren't this the eighth guy off the bench. I mean, these were our leaders that we needed in there. And yeah, um, I I mean, I hope so. You know, uh uh, like I said, the summer's gonna help them. It's only gonna help everybody get better. Um, so you know, uh I hope I hope so. I mean, we need the defense to come together. Like, it's almost like that puzzle, man. You got the puzzle pieces out, you just gotta put it together. As long as we can put this together, we'll be fine. That's put this together. Great analogy. That's a fantastic analogy. It's been a trying to do it. It's been a trying day for me, buddy. I want to let everyone know. Okay. The man to the left of me does a phenomenal job here with editing, um, the setup down here, getting the microphones prepared. Um, you know, tonight we had some some you know miscues with the with the recording, but he he figured it out. Um figured it out. Yeah, I mean, listen, you know, he's my compadre here. Um, he knows what he's doing. He has this podcast going. Um I appreciate everything you do, Mike. And you guys, I hope my goal this year, well my our goal, I'm sorry. Our goal this year, we're gonna have a goal. I hope Mike's on board with me. We want to double always the amount of people that listened the first year. We want to double that amount going into the second year of the podcast. So, whatever whatever number it is out there, we will our goal is to double that. So, guys, please get the word out. You know, listen in, share it with your buddies, share it with the older people that don't know how to get on iHeart or Spotify or Facebook to listen to it, you know. Just have everybody listen to it, you know. If if you guys are into it and you're at a cookout, just play it, man. Hey, man, you listen to Braun Braun and Jay. And Jay and Bron Braun, it just wasn't about basketball. You know, you heard a little bit about their life too, you know. So uh no, I appreciate everything Mike does. You guys just as Tremaine Jones says, the Lions then down here is phenomenal. The setup's great. Um he he's uh taking over for Stephen A. Smith pretty soon. Yeah, he does he does a hell of a job. He does a hell of a job. Thank you. I appreciate that. I really do. It's uh it was a trying day today. Um it was a long day. Um I'm hoping I get this all finished edited and everything goes fine. And uh but no, I I appreciate your kind words. I I really do. The one thing I try to do is is is get this thing right and and and I'm I'm really proud of the work we do. I really am. So thank you again, Paul. And on that note, we're gonna we're gonna wrap this thing up and um hopefully we get these uh podcasts out a little sooner to you. Starting to get a little more content, a little more ideas, a little more ideas for the show. Uh we're gonna try to get um uh a couple ball players on each time we set up a podcast and uh get their perspective and get to know them a little bit uh a little better. So on that note, we'll uh talk to you on the other side. Um thanks for uh tuning in for uh the show and Mike. I'm Paul Nyx. Oh God. All right, go Nick's. All right, guys. Thanks. Take care, guys. We'll see you. Go red nights.