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S2 Ep 2 MOVING MARKETS- Meet JACKSON WHITE (Ray White Umina)
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Meet 'your friendly neighbourhood agent' on Austrralia's NSW Central Coast- Jackson White of Ray White Umina Beach. In this fun but also in-depth conversation with host Wendy Clare, Jackson explains why the market is booming, whether interest rates are really affecting it, and what it's really like to be a "Coastie" in real estate, including some unforgettable stories from his decade in real estate.
We're becoming top stars. Becoming upstars.
SPEAKER_08He's the epitome of your friendly neighborhood agent. And he's selling in one of the hot spots. The booming Central Coast Market.
SPEAKER_03We're becoming top stars.
SPEAKER_08He was having a beer with a mate, and his friend said you'd be really perfect for real estate. And pulled him into the job.
SPEAKER_07Welcome to Meet the Agent Podcast. I'm Wendy Clare of Juge Interiors, also in the Central Coast.
SPEAKER_08Today, Meet Jackson White. Are you related to Ray White?
SPEAKER_02Uh no, I'm not.
SPEAKER_08Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_02People always ask that because funny enough, like my middle name's Raymond.
SPEAKER_08How about that?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so Jackson Raymond White at Ray White. Meant to be, isn't it?
SPEAKER_08It is. There you go. You should have that as your email address.
SPEAKER_02I know, or signature down the bottom. It's like, oh, you've just contacted Jackson Raymond White at Ray White.
SPEAKER_08But I'm disappointed to learn that you're not his secret love child or something. Got your way in to real estate by other means.
SPEAKER_02Other means, yeah. I could have come up with like a dramatic story, couldn't I?
SPEAKER_08You could. Not too late. No. You don't need it. You're doing well already. What do you love doing when you're not doing real estate?
SPEAKER_02Do I do anything apart from real estate? That's all I do. It's just yeah, real estate's my life. No, yeah, I I like I like I like sports, I like golf, I like being outdoors, yeah, standard kind of stuff. But yeah, I just I just do a lot of real estate. I just love real estate.
SPEAKER_08You just love real estate. That's that's it. That's your passion. Excellent. You have such a fun, bouncy, buzzy energy. I was saying to the agents. Jackson seems to just bounce around the central coast like there's zero gravity.
SPEAKER_02All all natural energy here, no, no uh no coffee. I don't drink any coffee. Uh such as a natural buzz, yeah.
SPEAKER_08Natural buzz, I love that. We have a favorite question here. What music star do you feel both resembles you?
SPEAKER_02Oh, that's a good question. Uh so there's two sides of Jackson. There's chilled out Jackson. He probably listens to Lewis Capaldi. Uh something a little bit more mellow.
SPEAKER_04Coffee in the dark kitchen lake. Maps on the bench.
SPEAKER_02And then upbeat Jackson, high energy. It would be Avici. I listen to a lot of Avici. So that's that's high tempo Jackson. And then yeah, Louis Capaldi, low tempo Jackson.
SPEAKER_08Lewis Capaldi's a little more poetic and thoughtful, which is a side of you that uh I I'm starting to see now. That's interesting.
SPEAKER_05I'm both stacked in the back seat, got shoes on the front door, mad every open door feels like one step close to the field.
SPEAKER_08You just kind of fill into real estate in this amazing way.
SPEAKER_02Naturally.
SPEAKER_08Naturally. No looking back. That's it. Are you a coastie? Have you been a coasty?
SPEAKER_02My whole life, yeah. I've always lived like actually on the bench leading my whole life.
SPEAKER_08As a lifelong coastie, what is special? Why are so many people moving here?
SPEAKER_02Um, coastline is absolutely gorgeous, like in Minor Beach, Edelong Beach, Booker Bay, that whole waterways kind of area. Um always been the number one attraction for around here, but also for now, the people that are moving here from Sydney, it's uh just accessibility to Sydney. We've got the ferry service there at uh Edelong that goes over to Palm Beach. We've also got the uh station at We We, which is pretty much the first major stop outside of Sydney. Um so yeah, most of the people coming here now are from Sydney. They have the luxury of working from home five minutes from the beach, and if they have to go into the city, they can jump on the train, sit there, listen to a podcast, read a book, watch a movie. You're you're at central within like an hour and 15 minutes. Um it's just accessibility, it's just been excellent.
SPEAKER_08I remember now I read a uh note in some news article that said that Norahead is the pick they say to buy because it's gonna like double in one or two years or something ridiculous.
SPEAKER_02Right is absolutely gorgeous, yeah, absolutely gorgeous. So it's it's the next pretty much the next suburb past, like the entrance. The entrance is another suburb that's really, really popular. A little bit more affordable than what it is here, but you're getting further away from Sydney. But yeah, Norahead beaches, got a lighthouse there. Um it's got all amenities and stuff like that. So yeah, that's all another really popular spot. That's probably an area, as you said, it's gonna boom very, very shortly. There's plenty plenty of money to be made up there. Anyone that's like priced out of this area will probably go up there. I've I've sold it for a lot of people around here on the peninsula, you minor at along Wee Woi, Blackwall, Booker Bay, um, that have sold here and then moved further up north because it is more affordable. Yeah, they they sell here, they can live up there mortgage-free. Um that's most people that's their goal is just live mortgage free.
SPEAKER_08Right, so this area is quickly gentrifying, basically, isn't it? 100%. Yeah, yeah. So the people are moving more north. So the Sydney market is moving north to us? To the minor peninsula.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and everyone like living here who's been here for for so long, um, is migrating north as well. Obviously, COVID boosted the market, but the majority of the people that were buying here were from Sydney, and it was just Sydney money. Like the the things selling in Sydney uh far outweigh the costs and prices of things here. So people were selling for you know two, two and a half million dollars. I sold one literally last week. They sold in, I think, Kellyville for$2.5 million and bought something off me for$1.4. So the people around here can't compete with those kind of buyers because you're competing with someone who's got$2.5 million to spend. So yeah, it's just Sydney money that's you know bumping our market up.
SPEAKER_08Right. So it's gone beyond the the COVID regional whom business because it's it's more now about Sydney getting overpriced and outpricing so many people that they're moving.
SPEAKER_02Well, I'd say over, I'd say maybe even more, possibly 60% of our buyers come from Sydney, and a lot of them are selling in Sydney. They're retired now, they're gonna be retired, and they just want to find the perfect place along the coastline, still accessible to Sydney because they've probably got kids and things like that in Sydney, a lot of their friends and stuff like that. But they just want the coastal lifestyle, and here is obviously a lot more affordable than what it is, you say, like northern beaches, manly, stuff like that. But yeah, all those people have budgets of over$2 million and they end up settling for something for that perfect one. Was that one in Booker Bay, Broken Bay Road, sorry, and that 1.4 they spent and they sold for just under$2.5 million.
SPEAKER_08So the prices here are they generally kind of equivalent to, say, Western Sydney, except here you've got more lifestyle by the beach.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so I'll be honest with you, I don't think we follow the Sydney market all that much. I know a lot about obviously our market, and what I know about other areas is just I just ask questions to buyers. I don't meet buyers in the weekend, I just go, What's your situation? And most people would talk your year off for 15 minutes and tell you what their situation is, where they come from, what their market's doing there, what their Asian has said. So that's kind of where I get my information from. Yeah, just talking to buyers.
SPEAKER_08Oh, well, that's a good way to get it, actually, isn't it? That's very real.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's from a horse's mouth.
SPEAKER_08So, what areas do they complain? What do they complain about the most? That's a very good inside bit of info for us.
SPEAKER_02In terms of where they're from? Yeah. Just like how busy it is. Like they just don't like traffic, and it's like the hustle and bustle of Sydney. That's the whole reason why people move here because it's like it still is a bit of a sleepy coastal town. Yeah, it's gotten a lot busier. Like this, I've been living here my whole life, and I've watched it get more popular, more popular, more popular to what it is now. Still, like I go to Sydney and it's just absolutely mank in Sydney. It's just like I could never live there. It's just there's too much going on. Well, I'll go there for a day and it's like how people live here, the traffic, traffic drives me insane. Or if you catch a train, it's like there's just so many people around. As soon as I come back here, I just feel like, oh yes, my my oasis, I'm back on the coast. And that's what the city people are chasing. They want that lifestyle.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, that's right. It's like turning down the stress, not just a notch, a whole bit. You're not having to worry about all these red light cameras. Parking is never a problem. I go to the beach every day with the pops, and we just jump in the car. Five minutes we jump out onto the sand. That's it. And then you go to Sydney.
SPEAKER_02Sell it to me.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, you're right. And then you go to Sydney and you go, Oh, Jesus, this is hard work.
SPEAKER_02Imagine having a hard day at work, you're nine to five, you get in your car, you've got to be commuting like with the peak hour traffic for an hour, an hour and 15, an hour and 20, an hour and 30, an hour and 40 minutes. It's like you just want to get home. And you just like you just stress them, it's like stress upon stress upon stress that they want to get away from that. They come to the Central Coast, they come to Yamani, they come to Woolway, they come to Edelong, Booker Bay, all these coastal spots.
SPEAKER_08So you finding then you're only really selling to people moving within the area, I guess from what you're saying, you know, you don't get many people selling to go back to Sydney.
SPEAKER_02No, no, I can't tell you the loss. I have I have sold places for people that have moved back to Sydney. Most recent one I'd probably say would be Wayne Minor, which is in Kingsview. The only reason why they actually bought a house here, bought a house, knocked it down, built the house. Um, exactly what they wanted. The family were actually coming up to see them, school holidays and stuff like that. It stopped happening. They wanted to be close to the family. So they sold here to move back to Sydney. What they had here, they couldn't replicate that in Sydney. They had to downsize, but it was just more for family purposes moving back there. But they're retired people, they're not, it's not wasn't for work or anything like that. They solely wanted to go back just to be with the family, and that's just where their family was. But yeah, apart from that one, I couldn't tell you the last one after opposed from that one that I've done. There's it's pretty rare to be honest with you.
SPEAKER_08Well, that's a sign, isn't it? Yeah, I only started thinking, oh gosh, maybe I should move back to Sydney because there's no interior design firms here. And I got a diploma and then went, huh, like I thought with all this building going on here. There's so much building everywhere. And it seems like three-quarters of the people that work here are in trades. Yeah. But yet so many trades are in here. That's right, but yet no interior design firms that I knew of, so it was everyone's you know, hiring in Sydney, but I didn't want to go back.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So I wouldn't either.
SPEAKER_08That's it. I know one interior designer moved here though, and she said the same, like, I've got to start a business now because I don't want to go back to Sydney. Yeah. What do you find is the general like interior design that you come across here?
SPEAKER_02Majority houses bearing very minimal. People just like, here's the product, we've got to move some things and stuff like that. But the new developments, like that one on Broken Bay Road that I sold, there were six townhouses in that one. Brand new, got that one got staged by the developer. Kind of the newer kind of stuff or fully renovated things, they're the ones that you know, people are kind of getting the interior designers come out and and do some things. It's not as popular as what some may think, but it's uh you can definitely see there's traction there. Like it's going to get bigger and bigger and bigger because there's there's more money coming to the area. There's a lot of people that were kind of set in their ways and don't kind of believe in it, but because the new clientele that we're we're having, they they fully believe in it.
SPEAKER_08Believe in you mean are you talking about staging? Is that what you mean?
SPEAKER_02Staging, interior designing. I'm really presenting the house in the best light. A lot of people around here are a little bit like, oh, little cruise just like, oh yeah, here's my house, we'll just sell it as is kind of thing. But we really try and push, go, hey, to optimize your dollar, you've got to do X, Y, and Z, or we can get someone to come in and give you some pointers and stuff like that. So it is getting better, but yeah, it's it's something new that's kind of been introduced to the area.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, interesting. And I suppose because of this competition at the moment, right? Yeah, it must be a case where people thinking, if my house is gonna sell in two minutes, I don't need staging. Right?
SPEAKER_02I don't think so about their own home.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, and then you're the one who's gotta run around and make it real, and you go, hang on a second.
SPEAKER_02That's it, yeah. Or we we just try to put like clients in touch with the right people to help educate them in order to get the best result. Like I can say whatever I want, but if you hear that same opinion from a few different people, then that starts to click and it's like, okay, yeah, maybe I should do this. Jackson said this, this person said this, the photographer said this, the stylist said this, one of the tradespeople said this. Or the the more times you talk about it, the more people are gonna be like, okay, maybe I should take note. I should listen to what these people are saying.
SPEAKER_08Things are definitely getting a little bit more swanky around here. I am pleased though, because I have to say, like, I've got neighbours that are real bogans, and there's a bogan road down here. And I I can't wait for it to actually just gentrify that a little bit more.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_08So that some of the rougher element go further north.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_08And then where it's it will.
SPEAKER_02It will it will happen in time. But yeah, the more what's the right word to use? I don't even know what the right word to use is. That's not offensive. Yeah. The scruffier crowd. The scruffier crowd, yeah. The well, less scruffier people come here, the more outlet the area becomes, the more those kind of people kind of are driven out, I guess.
SPEAKER_08That's right. So go up the house prices.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, up the up the house prices. That's what they say.
SPEAKER_08We we hear about this squeeze on the market, how there's uh such high demand to buy and so few houses to sell. Are there fewer houses even in the central coast on the market?
SPEAKER_02This time of year, yeah, there has been less in terms of like if you look at like we do stats every month to see how months to months and months kind of uh performs and where is the best time to sell, when is not the best time to sell. There's no right or wrong way because there's always gonna be buyers in the market. But of late, yeah, there hasn't been as much stock. Buyer activity is still really good, but there's buyers still come to open homes and wanting to buy something, but there's like they always say to us, Oh, okay, yeah, we like it, it doesn't tick all the boxes, let us know if something else uh comes up. I mean, there just hasn't been as much stuff coming on. So there's buyers there, it's just yes, as you said, supply and demand. There just hasn't been as much there what it has been previous years.
SPEAKER_08And do you think it's about on par with the other markets, or do you think there's even more of a shortage here? Someone was telling me, and I don't know if they're right, that in your minor, like there there was a particular shortage. I don't know if they were just trying to get me to listen. So I was hearing, Jackson, that there's a shortage of homes in the market in your minor, but that might have just been this agent telling me that because he did really want to get the house. And he was saying there was literally like only one for sale. And I'm thinking, when I looked at realestates.com, it didn't seem there's only one house in your minor. So maybe not.
SPEAKER_02But no, that's right. To be honest, it goes in waves. Currently, now, is there a shortage? I'd say no, especially being like your minor, everyone's like, oh, there's not as many properties in your minor on the market for sale. The reason why people think that is because your minor is the most populated suburb on the peninsula. Here you've got Wai Woi and Edlong Beach, who are the two other most populated suburbs, but because there's more a higher population in your minor, people think there should be more properties for sale. It's not the case. Sometimes there are more properties on the market with a lesser population in Waiwai. It's the same with Edelong Beach. But as I said, it's the answer to that is really it goes in waves. Right now, it's the market's really good. There's plenty of properties on the market, there's plenty of buyers around, there's plenty of activity. It could be that person that said it to you. If it was the agent trying to get a listing, as you said. Also, buyers say that it could be a specific property that they're looking for isn't on the market. There might be a lot of stock, but specifically what they're looking for, there may not be a property of that type on the market. It just goes back to yeah, you could ride the way, the right property will come on at the right time for those people.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, like I remember someone saying to me that the you minus side of Pearl Beach, for example, there are not a lot of strata units there. So if if you're looking for a house, fine, but if you're wanting to find a quiet little villa that's in a little strata box block for less, there's not going to be a lot available there.
SPEAKER_00Exactly right.
SPEAKER_08Ah, okay.
SPEAKER_00That makes more sense.
SPEAKER_08I'm glad we sorted that out. So are interest rates affecting the market very much here?
SPEAKER_02From what I've seen, not so much really. Like a lot of the people that are are buying here, as I said, are people that are retired, sold in Sydney, 100% cash, and they're just buying something outright. Obviously, we do deal with a lot of people that uh do have mortgages, but some people, you know, are downsizing, so they're gonna have a less of a mortgage, interest rates aren't gonna affect them all that much. Or people that are upsizing, selling their house, getting something a bit bigger, gonna have a bigger mortgage. Yeah, it's I don't know, it's it's it's a bit of a tough one. Ha have I noticed a massive difference when interest rates have changed? Not really. The market kind of just keeps chipping away. People are just a little bit more cautious of what they buy, they don't want to you know push themselves too far, or if they can get a house, oh yeah, we can buy this house and we can do an extension and we don't have to borrow as much. Or if they just go, yep, no, we just want the big house, don't want to do any work to it, and then you know, they run the risk of having that higher, higher mortgage, higher interest rate.
SPEAKER_08So it's more about how how much they can spend and what they could buy with that money rather than it affecting the numbers of people looking to buy or sell.
SPEAKER_02We deal with a lot of brokers, so the bloke brokers are pretty cluey and they don't really put people in a situation where okay, this could end badly for you. Most of the buyers themselves are pretty cluey these days. Like they don't want to kind of overpay for anything. But yeah, the people that overpay are the ones that are 100% cash. As I said, they've got you know$2.5 million to spend, they buy something for 1.4. They're the kind of people that, all right, they might pay five or ten percent above market value. The people that are getting, which majority of people are, getting loans of some sort, they're kind of paying close to market value. If there is a particular property that is, you know, somewhat popular, the competition might drive it up a little bit higher. But yeah, it's it it just goes with with the trends. Like year to year, you can see our area has had anywhere between five to ten percent growth annually, and that's happened ever since COVID. So yeah, it hasn't really been a backwards step. Yeah, sometimes the market does slow down, but the prices haven't come back as such. It just some things just take longer to sell. It just goes in waves, I guess. Yeah.
SPEAKER_08So five to ten percent, uh, is that pretty average for Australia, or is that like a better investment?
SPEAKER_02No, it fluctuates in all sorts of places. Like we've had people that have sold their place here, moved somewhere else and bought an investment and say out towards like Cessnock, where you've got better returns, places are cheaper, there's the there's mining out there, it's pretty close to Newcastle. Good investment type properties, big blocks of land. Places like that have annual growth of ab above what we have, but it's like what are you looking for? kind of thing. It's just like if you want that kind of growth, okay, go out to those kind of spots.
SPEAKER_08So this is more people coming here because of the the lifestyle and the affordability, the Sydney market, as you said.
SPEAKER_02There's less people coming here to invest as such. It's a it's a lifestyle change for them. Majority of the people that I sell to are obviously we've got a lot of rentals here, and we we have a large portfolio in the office, but majority of the people that I sell to are owner occupied. I'd say as it's another one, over probably 60% of people are moving here to live. It's a lifestyle change.
SPEAKER_08The sea change and the tree change? Is it kind of both in this area?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so there's obviously spots around here on the peninsula where you got close to the beach, but there's also ones that are elevated, so you have a massive view of the ocean and the bays, but you're back on a bush reserve, and people love that tranquil kind of bush aspect as well. So that's the best of both, both worlds. The downsize for those ones is you can't really walk anywhere because it's up the top of the hill, you've got to drive everywhere. There's one hill around here that actually has a bus that goes up and down. The other two ones, yeah, you you have to drive. But it it comes down to what people want. If you're happy to and the but I think anything on the top of the hill that's surrounded by the bush with a view, for the the price that those ones are going for, I think is excellent value. Like you you're living like a king, you've got a massive view, yeah. You've got to drive. You've got to drive everywhere anyway. Anyway, like it's unless you want to be on the beach or we're on a five-minute walk, even like where we are here now, it's a walking distance in the beach. Majority of the places around here are. It's the only other ones that are at the top of the hill. But yeah, it's it comes down to what you're looking for in a property, I guess.
SPEAKER_08Yeah. When I go to Pearl Beach, which is for sure my favourite beach.
SPEAKER_02Beautiful, beautiful.
SPEAKER_08And I think it's got to be one of the best beaches in the whole of the southern hemisphere, to be honest. So underrated.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_08And it's always empty.
SPEAKER_02I know, I know. Tucked away, no one knows about it. It's a little hidden gem.
SPEAKER_08A gem, literally. It's exactly when I go there, I love to ask people, so if you had the money. Would you buy the beach house or the tree house? Because they have these cute little houses along the side, tucked in the trees, almost sort of on stilts over the clifftop. Just like tree houses. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And people look at me and go, Oh my God, what a decision. Yeah, that's a good problem to have, isn't it? Yeah, 100%. Have to decide which. But what would you do? The beach house or the tree house in Pearl Beach?
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah, Pearl Beach is elite. So is Patonga. Patonga's really nice as well. For me, though, I'm more about being close to things like here, like around here in your minor, woo-woo at along. You're close to the shops, close to the beach, things like that. Up in the tree house, you've just got to dry places. So I'm it's that's probably not a bit of an eight, to be honest with you.
SPEAKER_08You'd take the beach house.
SPEAKER_02I'd take the beach, I'd take the beach house.
SPEAKER_08I think I would too, because it's just it's the dream. It's like the Australian dream started being about picket fences and all of that, didn't it? That's it. And now it's a place on the beach, literally the sand at your front doorstep, right?
SPEAKER_02That's it, yeah.
SPEAKER_08I think that's that's what you get around here.
SPEAKER_02That's what you're doing.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, and you can hear the sound. I mean, I guess the trees, you hear the sound of the wind and the trees, but still, I'm with you. Crushing waves, as you go. Crushing waves. Yeah. That's right. Barking dogs, barking dogs, fisher people, not so much. Not at not at Pearl, not at Pearl Beach. Excellent. What do you see then of the market heading for the coast? I mean, there's going to supposedly be at some point this whole train, fast train going all the way to Newcastle.
SPEAKER_02You hear it all the time. I've been hearing it for years, though. So I'm waiting for it to come up through which it's like an urban myth for you. It's like an urban myth, yeah.
SPEAKER_08All right, so tell me some of the most memorable stories, things that have uh stood out in your memory and yeah, that amazing experience you've had.
SPEAKER_02One of the ones is my very, very first sale. I actually met the people on holidays in Fiji. They were in like a little hut bureau next to us, and we were just having drinks and stuff. You were in Fiji? I was in Fiji, yeah, yeah. And we just like, oh, where are you from? You know, you're in Fiji, you're overseas, like, oh, we're from New South Wales, whereabouts, Central Coast, whereabouts, Yamida Beach, me too. Yeah, and literally I we came, I came back, I was at work, and then they uh hit me up on social media and they said, Hey, you seem like a cool dude, we're selling our house.
SPEAKER_07And they got you to sell it. I also heard that you helped a 98-year-old in COVID who was selling her house while her family was interstate.
SPEAKER_02In Melbourne, and yeah, they couldn't during COVID, they couldn't get up here, and I just said, Oh, well, where does she need to go? She needs to go to the airport. Sweet ads, all right, I'll take her to the airport. But yeah, that day I had a driver made me a homemade lunch, and we ate lunch in the car on the way there, just for sandwich. But yeah, cute little old lady. Yeah, she was 98, Mavis, never forget her. Yeah.
SPEAKER_08Oh, that's lovely. Well, that I think is a fantastic story because it really shows you like the difference, you know, when you are at the coast versus Sydney. And I mean, there is that similar vibe to the country here where people, you know, say hello as you pass. You you know, you go that extra mile for people, like you, you know, you drive driving out of the airport.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. It's it's cute. Things you do. As I said, she was she's good for a laugh, blood to chat. So yeah, you gotta do what you gotta do. But yeah, I was I was more than happy to do it. I was more than happy to do it.
SPEAKER_08Fantastic. I like that. Any any other any other horror stories?
SPEAKER_02Any Oh, I'd had plenty of horror stories. Maybe I wouldn't have a worse one. Maybe one of the more difficult ones I've had. A lady was a hoarder. She was moving back to New Zealand.
SPEAKER_08Oh, you met my mum. Yeah. I thought we were gonna say it.
SPEAKER_02Um joking. She was in a massive, massive hoarder. I didn't drive her to the airport.
SPEAKER_08You wouldn't have fit in the car.
SPEAKER_02No, so yeah, she literally didn't take anything with her. She wanted to take everything, wanted to get a shipping container, had to get all this. I think it was difficult in the sense that it was hard to sell a house and she wouldn't get rid of any any of her stuff. So we had to have it written in the contract, and I had to help with a couple of trades, the people filling skip bins, getting rid of all the things.
SPEAKER_08Hang on, you had to have it written in the contract to make sure she emptied the place.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because she was very back and forth in the sense that, all right, I'm gonna take this. No, I'm not taking this, I'm gonna take this, and I'm gonna take this. So speaking to her slither, speaking to the buyers that we're dealing with, they wanted certain things put in the contract to say, hey, we don't want to be left with all her stuff. When and she was a proper hoarder, like the worst I've ever seen. Like you couldn't literally, there was a little track in the whole house that you had to walk down to in into each room because you couldn't get anywhere.
SPEAKER_08What do you think's your goal from here? Are you going to just go onward and upward and stay in the coast?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I don't think I'd go anywhere else. I just know the area too well to go anywhere else. But as I said, when I first got into real estate, the opportunities kind of fell into my lap. Who knows what else they're gonna fall into my lap? I think it's a good opportunity. I'd I'd I'd give it a I'd give it a crack. Absolutely. Um, but yeah, for for me at the moment, staying on the coast.
SPEAKER_07Thanks so much for joining us, Jackson. And thank you, everyone, for listening in. I'm Wendy Clare of Juge Interiors.
SPEAKER_08Join us next week for another episode of Make the Agent Pokemon. So I was hearing Jackson that there's a shortage of homes in the market in your minor, but that might have just been his agent telling me that because he did really want to get the house. And he was saying there was literally like only one for sale. And I'm thinking, when I looked at realestates.com, it didn't seem there's only one house in your minor. So maybe not.
SPEAKER_02But no, that's right. To be honest, it goes in waves. Currently, now, is there a shortage? I'd say no, especially being like your minor, everyone's like, oh, there's not as many properties in your minor on the market for sale. The reason why people think that is because your minor is the most populated suburb on the peninsula. Here you've got Waiwai and Edlong Beach, who are the two other most populated suburbs, but because there's more a higher population in your minor, people think there should be more properties for sale. It's not the case. Sometimes there are more properties on the market with a lesser population in Waiwai. It's the same with Edlong Beach. But as I said, it's the answer today is really it goes in waves. Right now, it's the market's really good. There's plenty of properties on the market, there's plenty of buyers around, there's plenty of activity. It could be that person that said to you, if it was the agent trying to get a listing, as you said. Also, buyers say that it could be a specific property that they're looking for isn't on the market. There might be a lot of stock, but specifically what they're looking for, there may not be a property of that type on the market. It just goes back to yeah, you could ride the way, the right property will come at the right time for those people.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, like I remember someone saying to me that the you minus side of Pearl Beach, for example, there are not a lot of strata units there. So if if you're looking for a house, fine, but if you're wanting to find a quiet little villa that's in a little strata box block for less, there's not going to be a lot available clear air.
SPEAKER_00Exactly right. Ah, okay, that makes more sense.
SPEAKER_08I'm glad we sorted that out.