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Episode 28: It's Ok To Be Salty
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Hey y'all, hey y'all! Jessica Buggers! Jessica's podcast. This is Jay. How y'all doing? And this is Katina. What's up, people? Okay, so I don't know if y'all can tell or not, but I'm a little hype today. A little hype. We'll hype me up. Hype me up. See hype. No, we missed y'all. We did. We did. I hope y'all good. I hope y'all feeling amazing. Alright, y'all. So, you know, we're gonna get this little thing, this little um me in the beginning to let you know what we're talking about. Y'all really wanna stay tuned for this one. It's okay to be salty. We don't even know what's coming, but we're gonna know, okay? Oh my god. It is okay to be salty. I know it's a whole lot of people that love to hear that. But you wait for it, though. You wait for it, baby. Alright, Tina. Let's do this little mood check, honey. Mood check, mood check. Okay, well, I'm gonna tell you real quick. My mood is, I don't know, there's a lot that's been going on. Um, you know, life be life and stuff like that. So I some so I will be transparent in saying that over the past week I've probably been a little overwhelmed. Um however, even though being overwhelmed, um, I stay in my safe place with Jesus and and keeping it. Come on, Jesus coming. I keep the conversations coming and going with him. So it keeps me, so it keeps me um settled, I guess you would say. Okay. Um, so even though a bit overwhelmed, and and not like to an extreme extent that I would say, let me not say that, but just enough, you know how you can say you might be bothered. Okay. You know, just enough that you might be a little bothered or whatever. Yeah, a little something. Yeah, yeah. But however, like I said, that's a quick and easy fix each time. All I gotta do is take that conversation to my daddy. And when I talk to my daddy, he be like, Come here, girl, let me give you a ho. And he picked me up and he looked me up and all that good stuff, and um, and and everything is all better because he gives me the answer. Not the answer, but the answer. So I'm so so outside of that, I am good though. I mean, can't hold me down. Can't hold you down. Better not try. Don't. I feel good, y'all. I feel good. I feel like good old Sunny Day, honey. I am excited. I am just, I don't know, just in gray expectation. I just feel amazing today. And it is important, guys, for you to check in with your people. Check in with your people, make sure that they are good. Call that person you ain't called in a long time. How you doing, friend? Where you been? What you got going on? You need something. You want to hang out? Let's go walk around the track. Like something. Lunch, breakfast, something. I ain't already got any food. With your people. Check with your people. Period. Check with your people. It's a quick phone call or a text. A quick phone call or a text. If you text and they do not respond, pick up the phone and call. Call them. Pick up the phone to call. I mean that thing. Because, baby, we're losing them left and right. So just please check in with them. Okay, guys. Y'all never know what I'm doing, but I'm about to do it right now. Here I come here, come. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday to you. Mm-hmm. It's your birthday. It's your birthday. It's your birthday to you. So happy birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday to you. Okay. So if you had a birthday, baby, happy birthday. Happy birthday. I pray that the Lord give you so many blessings that you do not have room enough to receive it. Yes, indeed. You got so many blessings and so much love that's poured out to you that you got to share it. Yes, indeed. Yes, indeed. Would that not be the best birthday gift ever? Do it. That's enough. That's enough. And keep celebrating. You got some more days. Keep celebrating. Every day is a day to celebrate. Every day that we have life for real. For real is a day to celebrate. 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SPEAKER_00Y'all. This one today. This is a special one, guys. This is from Josh and Rosie in the UK. Hey Josh. Hey Rosie. Hey Josh. Hey Rosie. How you doing? So guys, okay. I'm gonna I it's really, really lengthy, which is really cool anyway, but I'm gonna kind of compile it. And what we'll do, Tina, is I will like I do like three paragraphs or so, and then we can just kind of address it and then keep going. Sounds good. Okay, sounds good. And I and I believe since it's so lengthy and um there's a lot of content there, just so that we can um oblige what they're asking, we can respond in an email with um with things in more detail. Yeah, more specifics because you know we only have so much time for the show, so but we'll just respond it by email for the things that we don't we don't touch. Yes, okay, Josh. I'm excited. It says, hello ladies, me and my girlfriend need your advice, slash, tips, tricks, tools, info, guidance. We both are in our 20s as well from UK. We both listen to your podcast and we love it. We both are expecting our very first baby together as a couple. They are expecting a daughter. And so they are Congratulations. Yes, they are due to the latter part of this year. Um, they want to know the best ways to bond with the baby while the baby is in the belly. So certain things like kissing the belly, talking to the baby, tickling the stomach, like those different things, cuddling um like the belly and things like that. They want to know about that. Then they also um want to know what we recommend as far as like television shows, programs, books, those types of things as well. So we can take those two first. Yes. Okay, you ready? That sounds good. That sounds good. Okay, go, Tina. So, first off, as we said before, congratulations, Josh and Rosie. Yes, what an amazing blessing it is to bring life into this world. Yes, I just want to say congratulations to you, um, to you all. Um, so with the first part asking how to um connect with the baby while baby is in womb, you know, um still inside mom, because the baby is automatically gonna come out and be um, you know, is automatically gonna come out, and there is always a tie and a closest with the mother. And a lot of times the father tries to figure out or they wonder how to create that connection. And it sounds like that's what your your question is. So one thing that you need to know and you need to understand is that when you are when when you're expecting child, um they hear everything that's going on. They hear your voices, they hear you talk, they hear, you know, they hear everything that's going on, and they also feel mom's emotions. Yeah. So the the biggest thing I would say is yes, um, engage in touch, engage in um, you know, vocal, um, vocal things such as talk to the belly, get close. My husband, he my husband at nighttime when we would lay down, he would lay down right next to my stomach and and just grab hold of my stomach and and he would talk to um to our sons so that our sons would know his voice. The baby's gonna know mom's voice because the baby's gonna hear mom scoffing all day long. But dad might be at work or away and not with mom all day long, so it's important that you um you engage in that manner. The touching and the feeling that's good. Um that shows that shows stimulation and it shows love um to the baby and to mom. Um, because what you need to understand is that when a woman is carrying a child, it is very much hard labor, even before she goes into labor. Her back is gonna be hurting, she's gonna be tired, her feet's gonna be hurting. Bart parts of her body are are going they're gonna swell up. She's gonna you're gonna find her just in like in mid-conversation, she might fall asleep. I don't know what's something about it. They they just make us tired. These babies, they make us tired. I mean, these are things that really truly happen. So, so whatever you can do to be um pleasing, um, like pleasing to mom as well, is also a blessing to the baby. So, rubbing mom's back, rubbing mom's feet, you know, her shoulders, all those things. You know, even um my husband, he would do massages and things like that, those type of things that help, and those things that stimulate stimulate mom, like I said, they also stimulate baby because what you'll realize is that while you're doing those things for mom, baby will start moving. You know, I don't know what stage you guys are at right now, you know, with baby, but when you get to that stage where baby starts to move, you'll be able to feel those things. In the beginning, it's harder for you on the outside as being dad to be able to feel those things, but mom does, it feels like little bubbles. So mom will be begin to feel baby moving with little bubbles, but as baby grows, you will be able to feel baby because baby will be kicking and moving and spinning and turning around, and you're gonna know it because mom is gonna show the stress from it, because it is stressful on the body, like I said, which is why I which is why I encourage you to do some of those other things for mom. Um, you know, and also a help for mom with that baby belly and the baby bump, um, is you know, as the baby grows, our our tummies grow and it begins to stretch. And stretch marks are a real thing. So, you know, you can get get um creams and lotions and things like that, and oils and things like that to to rub on mom's belly, you know, to kind of help uh massage. Be very gentle, be gentle, um, you know, with mom when you're doing that stuff. Also, um, knowing um being mindful of the space that mom needs when mom is um sleeping and things like that. You know, we can only lay on certain sides, and depending on what side the baby is on, we might not be able to lay on that side. So try to help adjust her, um, adjust mom, which will help adjust baby with things such as uh pillows in between the leg, underneath the bag, thing, you know, things of that nature. Um, those will all be things to help you engage with baby, and you're talking, you're talking at the same time while you're doing this. You're talking you're talking to baby, you know, introducing yourself of who you as who you are. If you guys already have a name, begin to call the baby by the name. The uh the baby will recognize that and along with your voices, read books as as you asked about. Reading books, singing. Singing was something that I did. Um, it was a comfort thing for me and and and my children. You know, it it doesn't matter what you sing, you know, if if whatever. I mean, but make it be something pleasing because you know it's a baby, so you want to make sure that you create a gentle environment and something that's not over stimulating. But singing, um, that's a uh that's a good thing. Reading books, I would read books at nighttime. Um, and I read them read them aloud, you know, so that baby can hear them. Just easy books. Play play um classical music um that simulates that simulates um you know thinking, growth, all that stuff too. So I am like am certified in childcare, so I can you know I was about to say I can talk about some of these things. They ain't never had no baby down. So Tina had to talk about all that. But like as far as these like network, um, like these television shows, channels, programming, cartoons, those things like that. Um, and you ask for like um one to twelve months and then one to twelve years. Um, PBS Kids is gonna be great for you. Um that's like the public broadcasting system, but they have amazing shows like Sesame Street. They have like um, I think Door to the Explorer is on there. Um, if it's not PBS, like I'm giving you, I'm giving you all kinds of stuff. It's so much fun. Um Baby, yeah, Bluey. Um, oh god, baby shark, uh you're so many different ones. And here's the thing. This is what I want to say. Rosie and Josh, this is your opportunity to create your story and to explore what's gonna work for you and your family and what you see that you like. Because, like she said, mom is gonna start to pick up the things that make her feel good, the things that make her, you know, enjoy this time with the baby in the belly. Um, when the baby gets here, once the baby is born, you can keep up those same things, read to the baby, um, listen to the classical music, sing to the baby, talk to the baby. Some people like to do the Google Gaga stuff. Talk to the baby, talk. Because you want the baby to be intelligent, you want the baby to um to understand and start to formulate because they're they're gonna mimic whatever you do. That's right. So they're gonna understand the words and stuff that you say, and that's gonna help them when they get ready to talk as well. And um, I'm looking here because we're gonna kind of try to move through it, but I'm looking here where it says you also want to know um good baby toys and um development toys and stuff that will help the baby. So toys that are um that promote like your fine motor skills, um, toys that you know they can touch, they can distinguish what's soft, they can distinguish what's hard, the colors, things that light up, different colors, things that make sounds, so they can get familiar with sounds, animal sounds, all of those things, things that that are your everyday that you're gonna want them to be acclimated and used to are good things for them as far as toys. And as a baby baby, like I mean, soft toys, yes, stuffed animals, you know, those types of things. What do you think, Dina? I do, I do um bouncers, mm-hmm. Uh, those type things become very helpful to you um when you are a new parent or when you have a newborn. They become very helpful because those type things can help to stimulate uh stimulate baby to calm baby so that baby can um sleep and rest, um, and so that you don't have to hold the baby all the time because you won't you'll find there'll be times that you will not be able to hold the baby all the time because you have things to get done around the house, or you might have to work, and if the baby has to go to um child care and you're not able to be there, um they can't hold your child all day long because there's a lot of other children, so them being used to sitting and things like you know, the little bouncers and and and things of that nature, you know, those things are um are always very good. And um it's good um at that time because they're babies, so they can't hold things and stuff like that. So they're learning um tummy time. Um, so they're learning things on their own with tummy time as as far as like how to roll over, how to sit up, things like that. So those are things that you would uh want to explore more when they are in that baby baby infant uh state. Yeah, like as they get um older, like you know, get six months and things like that. You got other little toys. You got other toys, and you can sit them in those uh those little things bouncy things. Yeah. And so um I know that you guys also asked about like different books, um, what to do at at bedtime and things of that nature. So just getting a routine and being consistent with it is very important. So if when it's nap time, if there's a particular song or something that you do, then start to implement something that is going to be routine so the baby can associate. When I hear the song, I know I'm getting ready to nap. Or at bedtime, when we do this, so you get your bath, you bathe the baby, um, you when changing the baby. I hear you asked about that too. Keep the baby, you know, um alert. And you really gonna need this when they get when they get a little bit older in the older in their months when they don't want to lay there and get changed. Right. And so you really gonna have to play with them, you really gonna have to blow on their stomach, making a little fart noises and things that kind of keep them like focused, right? So that you can get them changed and everything. But I will say one of um it's it's so much stuff that you guys asked about, like clothing, what to wear to the beach, preschools, things of that nature. And so some of those things we're gonna, you know, um send you a message back so that we can um talk about those. But it's something that stood out to me um when you said, I Josh, you said, I think um another thing I'm worried about when becoming a new soon-to-be dad is me passing down both ADHD and autism to my daughter later on in life and having to get her diagnosed with either ADHD or autism. I know that sounds stupid to say. I feel like it would be my fault since I have both, of course. I will love my daughter regardless and unconditionally. Either she um has I guess you're saying either she has ADHD or autism, she will get lots of love from me and my girlfriend Rosie. Um, and then so I wanted to talk about that too. And I know Tina, you know, you you'll have something too, but what I want to say, Josh, is the fact that you're reaching out and you're asking for help. I know that you guys have people in your circle and stuff as well that you can reach out to and lean on. But I think it is beautiful that you're thinking about these things. And the fact that you're thinking about these things already lets us know that you're gonna be an awesome dad. And that regardless of what, um, regardless if if the baby has ADHD or autism, what we talked about earlier about just getting a routine, think about the things that work for you. Right. Think about the things that you do to make sure that you can function and that you um are good on a daily basis, and start to implement them, but just implement them in a more structured way for a child versus as an adult. Right. And and like you said, lots and lots of love. Amen. Amen. Amen. That was gonna be my first thing that I was gonna say is that love will supersede any worry that you have. Right. Um, because the love that you have for your child, it's amazing how you love your child before your child even arrives. Yeah, because they love them love her now. Yeah, yeah, it's amazing how how God allows us to do that as humans. Um, but your love will supersede anything that you will need as far as protection um and when it comes to to that child. So you're going to do any and everything that you think is necessary when it comes to your child and their performance and their growth and their development. You're going to do those things. It's going to come to you naturally. Being a mother, for most people, I won't say for all, I'll say for most people. And when I say most, I mean like like 95% of people. Being a parent, it is it, it's it's it just comes automatically. It comes automatically, you know. Those things, intuition and things like that, it just comes. So don't worry yourself too much about the things that that have not happened. Um, I think it's great that you have an open mind to it, but I wouldn't worry myself too much about it because. Because you don't know what's, you know, you don't know what's going to be the turnout. You know, what if she's born and there's nothing. You know, there's no issues, then that's great. If she's born and there are some issues, so what? That doesn't matter. And it's not your fault. It's not your fault. It's not the necessary, you get the necessary screenings as as you know, as you, as you mentioned, that needs to take place. And you will know when it's time to do those things because you will have that child in um, you know, if you have the child in daycare or if you have the child in um preschool, um, things like that. If you have the child in preschool, which I which I think is great for kids, yeah, it's great for them because it teaches them to socialize and to socialize with children of their age. When kids are only around adults, they pick up adult behavior and they don't know how to behave like a child. So I think it's great when they're in preschool. But when they're in preschool or Head Start, whichever, um, they have different screenings and they'll pay attention to their learning patterns and they'll and they'll tell you, they'll talk to you about different things. What I I I suggest is that you just be open to what they um have the teachers have to discuss with you. A lot of times we get offended um when we're approached um about our children um and things that they they might do and their behaviors, sometimes we get offended because we love them so much and we don't want to think of anything. But when the teacher, if the teacher comes to you and they say, Hey, listen, um, we would like to do some screenings or we notice some behaviors um and we wanted to um you know discuss those things with you and we have screenings, then be open to those things. Be open to those things, and if you find that what the screening shows is true, if you find that it is true, then you begin to um you begin to uh create like Jay said create your patterns. But your patterns need to be in alignment with whatever the school comes up with because it can be very confusing for a child when we're doing something different from what's being taught at school, especially when as they grow, they're gonna spend most of their time at school than they do. So it's very important that you link up with the teacher and find out what the find out what what the learning schedule is or you know what they have to try to combat whatever um whatever challenges they may there may be. Work hand in hand with the teachers if that turns out to be something um you know of concern. But like I said, that's if that turns out to be of concern. And I and the biggest thing is just consistency, um Josh and Rosie. And your daughter is gonna tell you exactly what she needs. You're gonna learn her, and you're gonna know exactly what it is that she needs, you're gonna know what you need to do as far as um helping her to journey along this life. That's right. Because you are her parents, that's right, and no one will know her better than you all do. And one thing I want to say is that we all are beautifully and wonderfully made in Christ.
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SPEAKER_00And so there are no mistakes when God makes us. That's right. And so when she comes and when she gets here, remember there are no mistakes. There are no mistakes, there's there's nothing um that that signifies anything wrong or anything like that. You just learn the learn the person, learn your child, and then you adapt to what is needed. That's right. That's it. That's right. And Josh and Rosie, there's something very important that I want to mention to you that worked for me and my husband when it came to raising our children. And it starts now while they're in the womb, while they're in the womb. Begin to pray over your children, pray over their lives, pray over their development, pray over their futures, cover them, cover them in prayer and in love and the glory of God and the cover them in the blood of Jesus so that the enemy cannot come, you know, to try to destroy them. It's very important that you implement prayer. You can even pray about their future, pray about the lives that they are to lead as grown, as grown people. You know, I I assume you're having you're having one child, and this is a baby girl, you may have multiple children. Do the same thing. Whether you have one child, two children, more however many, pray over your children. I believe that that out of everything is the most important thing because if you're doing that, you're already leading your child, and you're already speaking greatness into your child, and you're already covering things that could possibly be an issue. So begin your prayer life together over your child. Awesome. All right, Josh and Rosie. Well, we wish you the best. We say congratulations and God bless you both. Bless you. All right, Tina. We on to this main topic. What is it? It's okay to be salty. That's right. You said be salty. We can be salty. It's okay to be salty. Okay, Jay. So Matthew 5, 13 through 16, it discusses that we should be the salt of the earth, which means that we should be that which is the seasoning to what would be our good chicken. Period. We should be the salt to the earth. We should be the seasoning and the flavor to what has no flavor. That means that we make things stand out. That means that there's no blend when we come through. So if things are out of order, when we come through, we set order. Okay. So, okay, so also with that being said, what we are supposed to be is the light of the world. So we should stand out and we should never dim our light for others. We should. That's like saying, that's like saying, uh, okay, um, I'm gonna light a candle, but then I'm gonna place the candle under a under a bowl. Why would you do that? Your light was made to shine, and it was made to shine brightly. So what we have to do is make sure that we stand out. We're supposed to stand out so that people see that we are different from all others, that we serve the most high, and because we serve the most high, that we have a favor. That favor that's on our life is what's supposed to draw men unto God and draw them unto salvation. So, in that, in doing all of that, that also speaks on the things that we do. We are supposed to make sure that the deeds that we do that they're good, that we do good unto man and not do harm. We're supposed to love others, we're supposed to help others, we're supposed, we we're supposed to show hospitality to others. There's so many things as believers of Christ that we are supposed to do. These are the things that make us stick out, these are the things that make us so salty. I mean, there's some other parts that's gonna roll in through here. When we talk about this thing about being salty, it's some other parts because just because there's the there's this nice, sweet, beautiful side that you hear, but it there's also a side that says, hey, listen, this is what I stand for. For God I live and for God I die. I don't stand for all this other mess that I see here that's going on. That's why I'm the salt. So when I think about it's okay to be salty, baby, it's okay. Because salty to me means that all that God has made me into, all that I am, even the things that I am not. Come on. Because God is still perfecting those things. I stand boldly in who I am. That's good. Talk about it. I am unapologetic to who I am. Talk about it. I know that I am perfectly imperfect, and it's okay because I know I serve someone who is perfect. Say that. And I am living my life and walking this life out, knowing that all that God has made me into be, all the things that I have gone through, all the things that I have dealt with, all the things that the good things, the bad things, the indifferent things, all of those things make up my salt. All of them make me who I am. And so, yes, I might be salty. I might be salty to you, but I have to be salty to you because you gotta know that I'm here. Come on. You gotta know that that I'm walking out purpose right now. That's right. So when I arrive, you see the salt. Say that. I'm here. Say that, say that I'm here and I'm walking this thing out the way that God intended me to walk this thing out. Say that. Not the way that you think I should, not the way that you want me to. Come on. Not the way that you want to mold and make me into. But it's the way that God has for me to do it.
SPEAKER_01Say that.
SPEAKER_00And you have to sit back and you have to taste my salt. You better say that, girl. You just preach the whole word. Yeah, because um I might be, because see, you know, if we compare this thing in in life and real in real word terms as far as the things we do, um, some people can't have a lot of salt. Some folks can't handle a lot of salt because you know they got high blood pressure and all this stuff. You can't handle a lot of salt. So I might be too much for some people. I might be too much for you, but that'd be okay too. That's okay too. And then there's some people that they need a lot of salt because you know they got the low blood pressure and they got low sodium. So they need a whole lot more in order for their diet to be satisfied. So you might need a little bit more of me, and you can stand me. But either way it goes, I'm gonna be that, whatever I am. I'm gonna be that, I'm gonna stand in that wherever I am. You're not about, like you said before, you're not about to tell me who I'm supposed to be. God called me as who I am to be who I am for him, and that he would use me and he would work through me in order to do whatever it is he needs to do. My assignment wasn't given to someone else, it was given to me. So therefore, he gave the instruction for my assignment to me. He didn't give my instruction to somebody else over there for you to tell me. For you to tell me how to do my assignment? What kind of sense does that make? That's not how I work. What kind of sense does that make? When he called me, he called me and he he told me, I know who you are, you know who I am. We have a connection, which means we have a relationship. And if we have a relationship, then that means we talk. Why would my God have to tell someone else what I'm supposed to do and instruct me on my assignment? I am who I am, I can't be nobody but who I am. Nobody but who you are. You can't be nobody but me, and I can't function like you. That's why I don't have to worry about what your assignment is and what God is telling you to do, and you don't have to worry about what my assignment is and what God is telling me to do. But what we do have to do is coexist because we are all one body. We are just different members, but we are all one body, but we need to be able to coexist. But that does not mean that I lose my saltiness and that I stand down so that you can stand out for whatever reason. We all stand out. Yeah, because we all are our own grain. Yes, come on. We're our own grain of salt. Yes, and we coexist together. That's right. And when we come together, then we add so much more to what God has for us to do when we link together and we're walking out what walking out the assignment, as you said, or the purpose that God has given us. And one main purpose that we all have as believers is to go out and share and teach the word. So if we are linking up and we are doing that and we are coming together, then we are a force. We're very flavorful. Come on. Because when we come through, when we come through, we're giving, yeah, we giving you, we're giving you all the elements that God has. Everything. All the ingredients that God has put together. And we and we adding on that. We're giving you a little accent. Come on. Because that's salt to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're giving you a little more tint. Come on, you know what I'm saying? Let's go. We're giving you a little um, what's that, Pekin Malayans? Yeah, yeah. You know, we can we give it, we're giving you what you need, but it's not, you're not gonna always get the same thing from everybody. And it calls for something different at different times. That's right. And so what we have to do as being salty is we have to be obedient when I when when God calls us. That's right. When He calls us for us and tell us to go, and you need to go here, and you need to go see, you need to go to this plate, and you might need to go to that plate, and you might need to be over here because they but they cooking up something over here, and you might need to go over there and give what I done gave you to give. If we all work together as one body, and when we can understand that, when we I it bothers me when we're broken down in all these different denominations, because God calls us to one body. And we are supposed to be one church. One church. And so, of course, we have had years and years and years and years of like the segregation within like religion and things of that nature. But if we can ever bridge the gap. Oh my goodness. If we can ever bridge the gap and come together as one, teaching the truth. Yeah, teaching the truth, yeah, um, operating in God, operating in the one true God, understanding what our mission and commission is. Do you know how dynamic things will be? Y'all talk about signs and wonders. Do you know what we would see if we were to come together, if we were to put all of our ideologies to the side, right? All of the things that hold us up and keep us separate, right? And understand that God's love is the only true love and is what's gonna keep us and what's gonna hold us and what's gonna get us to glory. Right. When we can figure that out and exercise that, do you know how unstoppable we are and how we pull people with us, how we get more greens to come into our into our whole big flavor of a salt bomb or a now? We season salt. Yeah, girl.
SPEAKER_01All of that.
SPEAKER_00When we put it all together. Yeah, we season it, honey. Right now, we that good old babe. Okay, yeah, don't play with me. Yeah, that old baby. Ain't nothing like that old babe. Absolutely, Jay. If we could separate religion and only focus on spirit, because God says that we should serve him in spirit and spirit and in truth. Not in religion and in truth. That's exactly right. And if we could stay on that path, we would, gosh, oh my gosh, we would succeed so much further when it comes to salvation, people being saved. When it comes to all these things that are happening in the earth, like the enemy, he runs amok in the earth because there's so much confusion. Well, of course there's confusion when people don't know if this is right or if it's if that is right. Why? Because of what man has made up. And if we didn't have so much focus on what man has made up and we were stuck in the spirit and truth, we will understand and know just by reading the word of God how our lives should be tailored. Right. Our lives do not need to be tailored based off of a bunch of regulations and off of a bunch of uh um treating roads. Yeah. It doesn't need to be based off of that. Because when we go before Christ, do you think he's gonna ask us, um, can you read the decalogue? Girl, okay, or a legalism? He he's not gonna ask us about that. Did you wear dresses every day? He's not. He's not gonna, he's not. You wear your girl. Like, I mean, God is not. What he's gonna ask you is when I came to you and you had, and and someone came to you and they were hungry, did you feed them? When somebody came to you and they were thirsty, did you give them something to come on for them? And he asked you about those things. When somebody came to you and they needed help, somebody came to you and they were in despair. Come on, what did you do to go on the house? What did you do? Did you did you leave them? Did you leave them in the state that they were? Come on. And you could have helped them or helped it, guided them to somewhere um that was that was freedom or that was um, you know, uh a release. Right. Like, what did you do? Did you walk away from them? Did you sprinkle the salt? You did you sprinkle the salt? Did you sprinkle the salt or did you keep it closed? I'm trying to tell you. I mean did you sprinkle the salt? And is your salt any good? Because when salt loses its saltiness, it's not good for anything except to be thrown out on the pavement. Y'all know what we do with the salt in the wintertime? What do we do? We go buy a bunch of boxes of salt. And what do we do? Put it on our porch so that it can melt the ice, put it on the driveway so it can melt the ice. We use it for those things, those purposes. That can be wasteful. Honestly, that can be wasteful. If salt loses its saltiness, it's good for nothing but to be thrown upon the pavement. And that's exactly what that's exactly um an emphasis on what that means when it loses its saltiness. How else can it be used? We are supposed to walk in what it is that God has made us to be. How he's tailored us, he's tailored, he's tailored us just right. Just right, just perfect. Because what's in you he needs for someone else. Everything that we go through, we talk about this all the time. The things that we go through is not necessarily for us, it's for us to edify the Lord and to bless someone else. We test testimonies. Testimonies. We have God gives us testimonies and we overcome things so that we can tell somebody else so that they can come out. That is a part of our saltiness. That is a part of who we are. That's a part of our DNA and what we're made to be. You can't change DNA. You can't change it. And we also have to be careful too, Tina, um, because our saltiness can destroy. I think back when I was younger, and I, you know, y'all forgive me. Y'all forgive me if um this makes anybody feel some type of way. I hope it does. But when we used to, when you used to have snails on your porch and they pour the salt on them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it killed them. Yeah, it does. And so, as believers, as as word carriers, we have to be careful about how we handle God's people. We have to be careful about how we handle our brother and how we handle our neighbor. Because we can destroy them. That's good. And see, God has given us power, God is giving us um gifts and things of that nature. But if you misuse them, you're not edifying, you're killing. You do, yeah, you can misuse it. You can misuse it and destroy people. That's why we got pastors and leaders and stuff that are in a place where they they are misusing what the gift has been given, or they're misusing the power that they have that they hold with the position that they're in, and they are destroying our people. They are running among. They are out, they are they are in the fields. They they they don't have no home. Right. They're scattered. So, what we supposed to do? Jay, you make such a brilliant point when you say that the salt that you pour on the slug or on the snails, it kills them. Because it's they shrivel up and die. It's too much, it's too too much acidity. Yeah. And it kills them. And this is so true in the body of people. This is so true, especially when it comes to leaders, um, people with giftings, like you said. This is so true. How we approach people makes a difference. If God gives you a word for somebody and He tells you to tell that person, but you're in a corporate setting, come on, it may not be for you to tell that word to that person, to the whole entire corporation, for them to hear what's going on. It may be for you to go and to minister it into their ear or to pull them to the side. Some things can kill. Some things actually kill. They don't stimulate, they kill, they break. Yeah. And then you also leave people out there and you leave them vulnerable. Because God, God gives us gifts. You know, you you and I, God has gifted us with the gift of prophecy. We know that, that's what it is, and we give God the glory for it. Um, I was reading, and there was a time where pro there was false prophets that was running them up. That's right. And they were putting, they were saying what their heart's desire was, what they wanted to happen. They were manipulating the people. They were trying to control the people by saying in the name of Jesus or in the or or um saying that God sent them. And you have to be careful. And look, we can't sugarcoat no more, we can't pacify no more because like this we are living in the times where we are losing people daily. People are being misled, they don't have truth. That's right. Truth has been distorted, they can't even find truth no more. That's right. And so you try the spirit by the spirit. That's right. And you will know them by the way. And you will know. You will know them. You will be able to tell when somebody is coming and they're and they're coming falsely. You'll be able to tell when somebody has their own agenda. You'll be able to tell when somebody is coming at you and they judge and they call themselves the judge and the jury. Come on. You'll be able to tell when somebody is operating out of manipulation and witchcraft because your spirit will raise up a standard and your spirit will start to speak to you. Your Holy Ghost should activate. That's right. You know that little thing be saying Holy Ghost activate? Right. It will activate and it will tell you that no, you need to put up a block because this ain't me.
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SPEAKER_00Mm-hmm. Amen. Amen. Amen. Everything, everything you just said, absolutely. We do. We have to be careful with how we walk in the giftings of what we have. And and understand. Yes, I we know what our giftings are. By no means do I call myself a prophet. I don't, I don't need a title. I don't need anyone to give me a title. I don't I don't need any of that. All I need to do is function under the obedience of what God tells me to do. That's it, period. But in doing that, you do have to be very careful in what you say and how you handle people. You can't just you can't just blatant blatantly jump on people and come in judgment. We are supposed to come to people in love. If you see something that is wrong, sometimes it's not even for us to say anything, it's for us to pray about it. We get so caught up in thinking that because God shows us something or he reveals something to us that we supposed to speak on it. Sometimes you're supposed to keep your mouth closed. And all you're supposed to do is pray about that situation. And I guarantee you, if you do what God says and you pray about it, you will see the change that is supposed to come and supposed to happen. Yeah, and we manipulate it. And you have to listen. Yeah. You have to listen to the full what is fully being spoken to you before you start to move. Come on. Because God will, and I'm I'm speaking for for me and how God deals with me. God will speak something to you. You don't go off the kilter then. No. You better wait. You need to wait because he might give you more instruction after. That's right. And then you don't want to be pature um be premature in anything. That's right. And here's the reason why I got a problem with titles in the body of Christ. This is why I got a problem with it. This is Jafonda, this Jay saying this. Jay, I have a problem with it. And I have a problem with titles because God will use, if you say you are a willing vessel for God, God will use you in any capacity that He needs you to be at that point in time. So I so you might call me a pastor, but the Lord just used me over here to evangelize. You might call me an evangelist, but I had to go over here right here, and the Lord used me to prophesy. Like you, you may say that I'm just a minister, but God gave me a pastoral anointing right then because I had to really help somebody and lead somebody where they needed to be because they was getting ready to go astray, and I was the only thing that was there that was a willing vessel for God to use to do it. So that's why titles bother me. Because you may you may have um an uh apostolic or an apostle um apostle anointing, and God may use you in various um capacities. That's right. Just like if you don't have that title, and God say that I might might need to leave use you in an apostolic, you know, place. God uses you how he sees fit. That's why I don't think that he is the author and the creator of these titles. Because think about the ones that came before us. Mm-hmm. Pharisees, Sadducees, all the seeds. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I I I believe that titles is title is more of an emphasis that man gives just for accolades and religion. Yeah, I think I I feel that. Now that that is not the same as giftings and anointing. Right. You know, that's different. And I'm not taking away the importance of those positions. I'm not taking away the importance of those positions. What but what I am saying is that the some people get stuck on the name, the title. That's the position. Some people get so stuck on the name, the title. That's so funny. And sometimes because they're so stuck, they feel like that's all that they can function in. That's not, and and you just like what you said, God can use us however he chooses to use us, whenever he chooses to use us, as long as we avail ourselves. But if you are stuck under a label, then okay, for instance, you restrict yourself. You restrict yourself. If you're stuck under a label, if I go into the grocery store and I go into the canned food aisle, and on on every canned food, whether is uh different, you got all these different brands, and I'm standing in the uh the tomato, the canned tomatoes aisle, the only thing I'm gonna get is canned tomatoes. Because that's what that aisle is labeled for. That's what that title is labeled for. We you might have different brands, but all I'm gonna get is tomatoes. But what if God sees more than tomatoes in me? What if I'm the sauce, I'm the paste, I'm the oregano, I'm the seasoning, I'm the noodles. What if I'm all that? What if I'm a what if I'm a meal? What if God has decided that I I am to be a meal? And not a snack. And not a snack. Not a snack. What if he decides that? But because I have put myself or I have bound myself to labels. That's the word. I've bound myself to labels and and um confined myself to only one use. Now that's all I'm known for. I'm canned tomatoes. I'm canned tomatoes. But you stifle yourself though. Because when you bound yourself up, that means that God, you don't allow God to use you freely in the capacity that He wants to. Because you're stuck on I gotta be this title and I gotta stand in this position. Or look at people. Because this is my position, then I gotta make sure that this person is my assistant or my armor bear, and they're catering to me, and this is this and that. You may miss stuff. Yes, you may miss what God wants you to do. Because you are so conditioned to be what a title is calling you to be when God is bigger than the titles. God is bigger than the titles, and because we focus so much on titles, because if I'm the pastor and this is my umblebear, but God has has a gifting and an anointing in that umblebear. And he is giving a word to the umblebear to come to the to the pastor to say, hey, listen, God is telling me that I need to tell you this, but you can't receive because you placed yourself on a pedestal because of this title, that's craziness. You are blocking out the Holy Spirit and you are not functioning in entirety, in the entirety of truth. What you are doing, you're limiting the Holy Spirit. So we have to be careful with these types of things. We have to be, if you say that you are open and you are veiled to God for Him to use you, then you need to be free. God says He set us, He set the captives free. We are free and free indeed. Free indeed. If we are free, then that means God is able to use us in any capacity. And he will use anybody. So we need to to get you where you need to go. I've seen or to prevent you from going to the right because your demise is down the street, and the only person that can talk to you and say anything to you is this drunk that's on the street. Or he may use a song. You better say it. He may use a song and it might not be a gospel song. That is true. But it's gonna be something to get your attention and tell you, oh no, I don't need to do that, because it connected with you, and you need to go this way. God will use whomever, whatever, because we all belong to it. That's right. And he's going to communicate with us in the way that we understand. If I, okay, if I am who I am. Come on. So I listen to gospel music and I can get something out of gospel music. Come on. But my kids, they're younger than me. So they listen to other music. Now I do talk to them and tell them, hey, look, be careful and mindful of the things that you put in yourself. But there's things that they can pick up out of that music, and they catch on, and they like, oh, you know what? That reminds me of something that that's written in the Bible, something that the word says. Or it may be the Lord trying to speak to them in some kind of way. God is going to speak to us in the way, and he's going to reach us where we are. We say it over and over. We're all scattered across this land, across this nation, across this earth that he made. We are all scattered. And God sees each and every last one of us. And he will reach us where we are. He does not say, okay, Tina, you're over here in this space right here. But the only way I'm going to reach you is you're going to have to travel 500 miles over here to this other state so that I can reach you and talk to you here. God will reach me right here, right where I am. Just like he'll reach that person over there in that other state that may need to be talked to, and he sends somebody else. Whether it be, because God's got a way. He's got a way. Sometimes he sends you to places and you don't even know why. And then when you show up and you get there, you realize, oh my gosh, this is why the Lord sent me here, because there's ministry to do here. There's ministry that has to be done here. Think about the podcast. Think about we just started this and we just started saying we needed to talk about the things that you know God reveals us and talks to us about. And like we have all these great conversations. But God has something more in store, right? And so for us to have spread across the earth the way that we have, it's so different from what you're talking about. We two little old people over here in the United States, touching people like Josh, Josh and Rosie in the UK. So it's like God will use whomever through the airways, byways, whatever form that He needs to use to get you what He needs you to hear. You better say that. You what you see in me. Because what you see in me is not deep enough to see what God sees in me. Come on. And it's the same thing when it comes to each and every last one of us that serves the Lord. We cannot see all that God sees. We only see surface level and we judge based off of what we see, surface level. You don't have the eyes to see everything. God's not revealing. I don't care. I don't care how anointed you are, how prophetic you are. God is not going to tell you every single thing. He's not. He's not because you're not Jesus and you're not him. He's not going to tell you everything. Everything about a person. He's not going to do that. He's not. And the thing about it is we um that's even more reason why we have to be very careful about how we handle the other salt that's that's in the that's in the box with us. Say that. You better handle each other the right way. Say that. You better respect the anointing that's upon each of us. That's good. You know what I'm saying? You gotta respect each other because we might not have the same thing or it may not look the same, but doesn't mean that God ain't give it to you. God ain't done it. God's hand is upon all of our lives, and he is doing the work through all of us. And our work and our walk is ours. It's not yours, it's not theirs, it's not somebody else's, it's ours. And it's up to you to the best of your ability and your relationship with God to carry this thing out. And you don't need other people judging you and judging your anointing, judging your walk, judging your relationship. You don't need nobody else judging your relationship with your father because he is your judge and jury, not anybody else. Amen. Now, so it's okay to be salty. This is this this right here, this is something a revelation that the Lord just gave me. Like as you were sitting here talking, you can be in Christ or in ministry or be saved for umpteen amount of years. Umteen amount of years, and maybe you've seen souls saved, okay? Maybe throughout your lifetime you've seen a hundred souls saved or whatnot. If you see, if you've seen that much, you know, that many, right? Maybe you've seen that to happen, right? Based off, and when I say that, I mean based off of the work that God has has um orchestrated you to do, come on, based off of your assignment. But then you know what's gonna what's the trip though? Is we sit and we think in those terms, and that's so carnal. That is so carnal. We think in those terms, but what about that drunk person or that addict that you were talking about earlier? What about that drunk person or that addict that God cleaned them up in the last minute, and they went around and they ministered, and in their short period of time, because say, say for instance, um, they had a short-lived, you know, a short-lived life, but they cleaned it up. And when they cleaned it up in that short-lived life, hundreds upon hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of people were saved just based off of their testimony. God is not looking at a title, he is looking for the one that will be used, he is looking for those that are available. He is not looking for a title, he's looking for your obedience. Yes, Tina. It's alright to be salty. I don't have nothing. I don't have nothing, yeah. Please be salty. Be salty. That's that's my that's my thing. No matter who you are, please be salty and stand and stand in your in your salt with um boldness. Say that. And with and with assurance of knowing who made you salty. Period. Alright, so girl, um That was great. Uh-huh. That was great. That was a regular conversation we normally have. Period. That was great. I'm ready to rant. Is it's driving. It's always driving, Tina. It's always driving. And I gotta do better. I got like I got okay, guys. Let me calm down. No, because you're coming in hot, so I know it's gonna be good. Tina, it bugs me to pieces. So my rant is when you are behind somebody. Okay, and we are riding down the road, and it really don't matter where you are, it can be on like the city streets, um, in the highway, like it doesn't matter. When they are not sure of what they want to do or where they're going or what their next moves are. So they don't know if they want to go to the left, and you get ready to go around them on the right, and then they turn back to go to the right. Or either they try to speed up because they don't want you to pass them, even though they try to act like they was going to the left for the right, and you're trying to go around them because you just ain't got time. They just didn't for the extra. Yeah, it's just you are reckless, you are reckless driving, and I want to report you. Right. I want to report you. Right. And then you get mad and you want to blow the horn or you want to throw up your middle finger, but you did it. Stop it. You did it. Stop it trying to take over the road. Thank you. And another thing that bothers me, if I'm coming down the highway and I come behind somebody and it's a two-lane highway, right? No matter where it is, and the person in front of me has stopped. I see them flashes before I get to them, right?
SPEAKER_01Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00So obviously they caught installed, something that happened, or whatever. I'm not gonna ready to stop behind you. I can go around you and keep on going down the highway. Why do people stop? Because they know it put their hands up because they know that. That's the people like why you ain't moving, go blowing the horn. They are stalled on the highway. They cannot go nowhere. So you are the dummy that is sitting behind them. They ain't they're not dumb. You the reason the whole the whole line is is is is lit up red on Google Maps. Yeah. You the reason. We can't get through them. Because you stop behind them, not the person that couldn't help the fact that that car stalled. It's you, because you didn't go around them. You see that light flashing and you want to get behind them and just cause confusion. Why? Go home somewhere. Just pull over. Just pull over and don't get out of what's going on. If you don't slow everybody down to that, you know, to that um that point, just pull yourself over and go be no sick. Yes, because the people behind you don't know. No. They think you turning or that the traffic didn't stop or whatever. They can't see the person in front of you stop. You the only one that got clear vision that know that this car ain't gonna never move in front of you. Right, right, right. And you sitting there. Right. If you're gonna help, then get on down and go help. You know, let the rest of us go. Let us go. We just want to get around. We just try we got places to get to. This happened yesterday. I told you it's always something to be happening to me right away. And I'm standing and I'm in the other lane, like trying to stop. Like, come on, go on and get over in front of me. Because you causing all this, they still sit there. Oh my gosh, get out the way. I said bye. Or put your blinkers on and get put your blinkers on too and just get out the car. Yes, and go minister to that need because obviously you feel like you need to do that right now. You yeah, you need to do something. You need to know what's happening. You need to be nose. That ticks me. That is funny. That is funny. Okay, I have one today, so it's gonna I it's gonna be twofold. So it's gonna be like in uh based off of retail. So you know how you know how you go you go into the store, and this is this is okay, this is what happened. I went into a shoe store, right? I went into the shoe store, and it was a lady that was there, and she had children, and it was a whole family. Now, granted, there was a mother and a father and a couple kids, and daddy really wasn't doing nothing, but waiting to open the wallet so he could pay for everything. For real, for real. Kids are running around looking for their shoes and all that stuff. Mom's running behind kids or whatever, but they're taking all this stuff out and not putting it back. Why do we? I mean, even though the people are there, um, and and we quote unquote say that's your job, why can we not be considerate enough to put the things back in the place in which we got it from? If you're not sure about it and you decide that you're gonna walk away from it and you're gonna go somewhere else and you're gonna carry it, take it back. Right. If you're not gonna take it back, then take it up front to the counter instead of just leaving it there. So what happened was the um they had pulled out a lot of stuff because they had kids and they had pulled out a lot of stuff. They didn't bother to put anything back, everything so it made so it made the store a mess. And then if you got all these boxes out and people, other people are looking for sizes, they can't find their sizes because the stuff is all in the floor, so they don't even know what you pulled out. What they might be looking for is on the floor in the pile that you've already made, right? So that's that's one of my things. Like, if you get something, like if you put it back, put it back, put it back, put it back to it for the counter or take it to the counter and tell them, listen, I don't want this, but I didn't want to leave it out. I couldn't remember where I placed it or where I where I got it from. Take it, you know, one or the other, do one or the other. But then there's this other part, right? Then there's this is there's this other side. And the reason I can talk about retail is because that's you know, when I first started working, that's what I worked in. I did retail. Oh Lord Jesus, my hat is off the people that work in retail. My hat is off to you. You have got to be so patient and you've got to be so kind because just like that scenario I was talking about, right? That leaves the employees to have to clean up the mess, right? And it's not, and to just to say, I think it's very um, I think it's very arrogant just to be like, well, that's their job, that's your job. So for you to think that it's okay for you to walk around the store and to just pull out a whole bunch of random stuff and to leave it, that I think is so arrogant, and I I think it's is disrespectful. It is very it is, it's very disrespectful. So on the other side, there was the employee that had to put the stuff up, right? But let me tell you something. This employee, she was so mad, and which I can understand she was mad, but she was mad to the point where she was griping and complaining and fussing out loud that I and anybody else in the store could hear what she was saying. And the first thing that registered to me it was that, okay, you saw these people in here, you knew that they had children or whatever, but it is so unprofessional that you are yelling and hot, like you're you're verbalizing the way that you feel, and you sound very, you sound very hateful in what you're saying, and you're saying it out loud, and it and it's it's really killing the vibe. You don't seem very customer service. Customer service. That's that's that's out of the 100% customer service is gone to hell in a hellbag in a handbasket. Yeah. Because you can hear people cuss. Yeah, I don't want that. Stay over there. People that are employees, they cuss, they will talk to you, have full conversations with each other, and they're checking you out, and they don't look at you, they don't acknowledge you, they don't care that you're there. I you know me, I say something every time. Well, hate are you too? How y'all doing? Okay, who girl? I get in that conversation. He did like, no, you're not getting ready to be rude and disrespectful to me. Yo, like that's out of order. It's out of order, it's out of order, but it's The same token is like, yes, it was uh what they done, it wasn't right, but don't vocalize the way that you feel about it or project your attitude into the atmosphere because now you are harming my shopping experience. You know, so now I don't want to come to you to ask you for help because you to me now you you hateful Helen. I don't I don't want to talk to Helen. You ain't getting ready to help me anyhow. Because if I tell you I need a shoe that's in the back, you ain't gonna go to the back to go get it, or if you go back there and you can't find it, you you gonna come back up front and you're gonna tell me you ain't got it. I don't want to talk to hateful Helen. So the other, like I said, the other part to this is that if you choose, because these are choices, if you choose to work in customer service, then have a customer service type attitude. Don't don't press off um bad behavior, behavior, and emotion on everybody else. Don't project that on everybody else because of one or two people that are inconsiderate. Everybody is not inconsiderate, you know. I don't mind. Look, I I got my shoes out, this don't fit, I'm gonna put it back, and I'm gonna put it back in the place that you know that I got it from or whatever, you know, or whatnot. But so it's twofold is clean up behind you know behind yourself when you're going places and don't just have an arrogant attitude as to where it's like, oh well they can put that up. Oh, okay, well, they could. Then you take it to the front and give it to the and give it to the cashier when you when you check out so that they can put it up, you know, so that the place is not such a mess. And then on the other side of, you know, the customer, the customer service, give me some good customer service. Give me the nice experience. Don't let everybody else ruin it for me. Because that's what I would do, or I would have told her about herself. Alright, y'all. Well, we're gonna see y'all next week, y'all. Yeah, this was a good one this week, y'all. So we're gonna live, laugh, and love. Bye, y'all. We out.