Stop Giving Men Bad Advice | Ep.28

We react to a viral claim about “male silence” and argue that the internet keeps mistaking male communication for moral failure. We break down how men actually socialise, why teasing can function as accountability, and why online gender narratives often miss what happens in real life.
• reacting to an Instagram video about male silence and shame
• questioning whether shame is the main driver of men staying quiet
• explaining male social dynamics around trust, testing, and group standards
• discussing protector instincts, threat detection, and responsibility
• comparing male directness with female social pressure and ostracism
• challenging the claim that men do not call out bad behaviour
• sharing a real story where calling out a creep backfires
• critiquing “therapy talk” and performative advice aimed at women
• arguing about patriarchy, power, and why simplistic models fail
Pray for Jordan Peterson for him to get better and for him to start talking about men again.

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Transcript

Welcome And No Tomfoolery

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Welcome to episode twenty-eight of the Ministry of Man podcast. Thanks for tuning in. Thanks for tuning in. Australians, don't say tune, we say tune. CH. But we don't mean to do it. That's just how we pronounce it. Now let me tell you something. This week I gotta I gotta go into something that I've I've touched on before, but I saw a video on the gram that had 2.5 million views and thousands and thousands of comments, and it was so hard to watch, I could barely finish it. The only reason I actually finished watching it was because I felt I needed to talk about it and I needed to watch the whole thing, but it was one of the most painful things that I've ever watched. As far as oh the like not only was it cringe, but it was just wrong as well, and or at least I vehemently disagree with it, and so I'm gonna jump straight into it. I'm not gonna dilly-dally. Okay, I'm not gonna flounder, and there's not gonna be any tomfoolery in this episode, all right? Let's get that let's get that out of the way. If you're coming here expecting there to be some shenanigans, there to be some mischievous behavior, you you've come to the wrong place. And today is all about the business. It's about it's the real deal. It's raw, uncut, unfiltered, live action, truth.

The Instagram Video That Sparked It

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And you're gonna hear it here first, so allow me to begin. Now, I don't know if I should say who made the video. He's just a dude on Instagram that um talks about books, and he's really good at it, I think. I mean, he's got a big following, and I remember seeing a video from him like a year or so ago and being like, oh cool, this guy reads books, and I like to read books, but he like he we just like to read different books, so I didn't follow the page. Uh but I love reading, and then this video pops up onto my feed talking about male silence. And I'm like, oh, interesting. What's this gonna be about male silence? Now I'm gonna I'm gonna have to break it down. I'm gonna have to break it down into individual parts because the the video goes for maybe a minute and a half, maybe two minutes, and I'm about to speak for somewhere between 40 minutes to an hour on wh why everything you said was wrong. So you can imagine why I found this so hard to watch because I'm like the the the amount of wrong things in such a short amount of time it's bewilder, it's actually impressive. Um and and I will say this no disrespect to the person. That's probably why I won't say because I don't want not that anyone would think less of him, I'm sure, but he's just misguided, that's all. Well, I I believe that he is, and he everyone's entitled to their opinion, but I think that this opinion is damaging. So I'll without further ado, I'm gonna get into it. So he starts off by saying we need to talk about male silence and how it's one of the strongest ways that the patriarchy sustains itself. Okay? So I'm gonna come back to this later. But he's claiming that male silence is a direct correlation to the sustainment of the patriarchy. He's saying this is a bad thing as well. That not only is male silence bad, but it's perpetuating another bad thing. So I'll come back to that. Now he goes on to say before we can talk about the male male silence, we have to talk about how how we've been conditioned to get there, right? So and and he's claiming that it is through shame that

Breaking Down The Shame Claim

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the reason that that men are silent in in many different capacities is because of shame. And he throughout the video, he does this a lot, right? He uses certain phrases and ways of speaking that sound really convincing because of how it's positioned. So he'll say, We weren't taught who to be through guidance, we were taught who not to be through shame. And that sounds really like, whoa, yeah, oh man, like, isn't that the truth? And people hear that and they go, they just lap it up, and like especially like liberal women, liberal women will hear that and be like, mmm, yes, parage. He goes, External voices policed us through shame, and then our internal voices shaped us through shame. And it's like all these external voices, and then therefore the internal voices, and then it's like it's just this it's a particular type of language that people just get so wrapped up in. Like, this is literally like crack to chicks. By the way, all the comments were just girls being like, mmm, yeah, send them where now send this to all the men. All the men need to hear this. You're all shame.

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Like what?

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Oh, it was doing my absolute head in. It was so hard to watch. So he says things like, you know, yeah, the quote that he says about, you know, we weren't taught who to be through guidance, we were taught who not to be through shame. According to what? Besides, like you just get a general vibe on that. Because some like some men have had bad upbringings and some have had good upbringings. None of them on either side of that have been taught that uh talking about your feelings is like neither here nor there, really. But okay, well, let me elaborate on on how on the rest of his videos to make this make a little bit more sense. He says the the way that this happens is through name calling, like, don't be a girl, for example, or don't be emotional, don't dog the boys is one of them. Like, I don't know why he said where he threw that one in there. It's like that's like sound advice. That's great advice. Like, not don't dog the boys is a really good piece of advice. And if you do dog the boys, then like that's the bad character trait. Dogging the boys is a bad character trait. Obviously, like in in context, if it's like depending on what the situation is, if dogging the boys means that you report a crime because one of the boys beat his wife or something, then you're like, and then they try to say, Oh, don't dog the boys for something like that, then yeah, obviously that's super toxic and very, very bad. But like 99% of the time, if someone's saying don't dog the boys, it's like we want you to hang out with us this weekend instead of like your girlfriend for the 10th weekend in a row. Like, we want to see you too. Like, like, so much of it is just like like dogging the boys is just maybe not like when I used to drink, people would say it like if they didn't drink as much as everyone else, and it's like, oh, don't dog the boys, like that's that's the type of way that a lot of guys use that terminology, and as far as like don't be a girl, no, that's not like taught through anything other than the fact like little kids will say that to one another because in it's like embarrassing if you are a guy and a girl beats you at something that the guy should win. So if it's like a physical strength thing, then like the guy should win because he has a biological advantage. Like if I it's but it's the same with anything. If I am, say I'm 90 kilos and some guy that's 60 kilos beats me in an arm wrestle or something, that's embarrassing because I have the biological advantage, I'm the heavier guy. So that that makes me look really weak. And so when a guy's saying to other guys, don't be a girl, it's usually in things that like they would need to invoke some courage or some bravery or some strength or something like that. Like it's not that they think girls are bad or that they're a terrible gender in total, it's that the situation that's at hand is something that requires more than what might be innately given to women. So, like, even like don't be a girl is is not bad advice either. The Bible literally has a Bible verse in 1 Corinthians 13 that says act like men. Like, and what it what it's meaning by that is be like to be a man is to be courageous and to like have some valor about you, have some virtue, have some vitality. Like it's not uh it's not a bad thing. It's it's in the same way that girls could say, and they do as well, by the way, say to some girls that they don't like, maybe it's like, oh, you're such a man, and they would say that if the girl is like really big or strong or something, like they liken it's like it works both ways, kind of thing. So yeah, so not only it's like I don't even see any of those things as shame, as like don't be a girl, don't talk to boys. Uh, you know, there was some more vulgar ones like don't be gay or something like that. But I'll get to that in a moment, actually, as to why men say that as well about other men or why they might use that kind of terminology. So he goes on to say that men don't want to be labeled as these things, and so therefore they remain silent as a form of protecting themselves. Which is I just don't think that that's true either. You can definitely still be labeled as all of those things remaining silent. Like, I think that what he's trying to say is that men won't, let's say, call out other men. Like they'll stay silent uh in a bad situation, so they won't call out certain like they'll they'll be silent in the face of something bad happening, let's say. I think that's what he's trying to aim at because it's it's definitely not stay like none of that would be relevant. You could definitely still be called a girl, or still be called gay, or still be called dog and the boys being quiet, like that's not it's a but it's usually a behavioral thing, like it's what you're doing, not necessarily the things that you say, but it could it could be both. But I think what he what he's trying to target, so I'll try and give him the benefit of the doubt for that and say that that's what he means when he says that. So, but the you have to understand like how males socialize and communicate in society, and how they always have as well. Shame isn't necessarily an issue, or even isn't necessarily a bad thing,

How Men Bond Through Testing

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though like some of those tactics and ways of communicating are actually a a good thing, and I'll explain why. So, the reason that men are prone to name calling and let's say these shame tactics or whatever it is, is that it it's a way that will form trust within a tribe. So, first of all, men are wired innately to protect. So some men will do it selfishly, some men will do it unselfishly, but the protection method is there. So obviously, you know, in toxic men, maybe their uh protective instincts will end up being controlling. So you're we all know the stories of the controlling husband or boyfriend or whatever. Uh the healthy version of protection isn't controlling though, but it is understanding that you have something of value that does need protection and it falls on you to do the protecting because you are the stronger vessel. And you're the one, like you're the one, the man is the one with the family that's running into the burning building to save the children if they need to. It's the man that is giving the coat to to the girl when she's cold, kind of thing. Like there's there's a certain element that, okay, I will, as the man, will have the the brunt of the pain. I'll take on the load of the pain and the heavy lifting in order to protect like the valuable things. That's like the healthy version of how a male brain should work and has worked for thousands of years. That's kind of a design, especially if you're a Christian, you would know that that that's not just an accidental thing, that's a design-based mechanism that God has placed into humans. But where where it comes into the shame side of things, most men, when they see things within their tribe that aren't behaviors that they can trust or rely upon that that might seem weak or might seem untrustworthy, it makes men disgruntled because you're part of the same tribe. So the the reason that that might trigger some men is because they would know that those types of men doing the the weak or seemingly weak behaviors, they can't really be trusted in war situations, or that if a if a dangerous situation was to take place, they can't really rely on on the help of these weaker men when they should be more capable. You want your tribe to be as strong as possible no matter what. So that's kind of a uh maybe an evolutionary trait that men have inherited, and uh, and when I say evolutionary, I mean just like I mean it in a different way than most people probably think. Uh so like the male brain is constantly threat detecting, right? So they walk into a room, they walk into a restaurant. One of the first things that men will do is they'll clock the exits. They'll also try and clock any potential threats within the room. If there's some, you know, massive jack bikey dude sitting on the bar, like he's like every guy clocks that guy. Like if he's if there's some guy that looks a bit sketchy or a bit edgy, like they're getting clocked. They're gonna know. The guy's also gonna know, okay, what table are we sitting at? Where can I face where I'm able to see my whole family and any oncoming people that are that are there? So like a man will typically not want to have his back facing the the open room. Well, at least if he's you know, has a higher level of threat detection, let's say he would he would have his back to the wall, maybe, so he'd be able to see out more and be able to get a wider scope of of any potential oncoming risk. It's the same as like, you know, statistics will show that men will sleep well when men and women sleep in a bed, the men will usually sleep closest to the door. Just because that's the the further. It's not every time, by the way, it just seems to be a higher uh percentage of men. Because some people listening to this will be like, well, I'm a girl and I sleep closer to the door, or I'm a guy and I sleep closer to the wall, and it's like, okay, sure. Like, what doesn't it's not a rule. So with that being said, that doesn't stop with men just walking into a room or looking at their family, it continues on into their own community. They they look at their own team, they look at okay, how does my team stack up? And can I trust my team? And who are the people that are on my team? And so you when you're part of any kind of group, any kind of friend group, that's also happening within the friend group. So let's say you've got a group of five or six guys, and they start, you know, one of the guys starts doing some really maybe effeminate behavior or some really, I don't know, like behavior that is unbecoming of the group, that is is not really fitting in, they're gonna get teased or they're gonna get like quote unquote shamed for it, but they're gonna get picked on a bit for that behavior so that they will fall in line to the group because you're you're part of the same tribe. So like you're known by those that you surround yourself with. If some, if there's a group of people that you're always hanging out with, you're identified in a collective. So your your reputation is almost bound within the group that you're in. And so if you're doing certain behaviors and the group doesn't like that to be representative of them as well, then they're going to probably say something to deter the guy from doing that behavior. And if it's like doing girly things like painting his fingernails or just doing some like TikTok dances or something, the boys are probably going to roast him for it. Now, you can call that shame or whatever, but that's just the way that men usually behave. Now, obviously, you can go too far, and there's ways that you can go too far with that sort of thing. The thing is, you're not bound to a group either. So if a guy is getting shamed or whatever, he's going to either leave the group and not hang out with them, which he's free to do. Everyone's free to no longer hang out with people that they don't like hanging out with, uh, or they feel that it's just like toxic and they just keep getting picked on, then they can leave the group. Um, if that happens, it's good for the group because they're like, oh, well, he's not cut out for it then. Otherwise, the alternative alternative to that is the guy that's getting picked on a bit will bite back and he'll actually show some teeth, and then the group knows, okay, well, this guy can actually we know where the line is, and we know that he actually has some teeth to bear, and so we can trust him still, and then he stays in the group and it's and it's fine. So, like, if if a guy is emotionally weak and he can't handle the things coming in and he leaves, then they know, okay, well, he was emotionally weak. He couldn't handle it, he couldn't deal with it. If he bites back, they go, Okay, well, he's got some teeth, so that's fine. Like, whatever. Like, you know, they probably will back off because they're like, okay, we know the limits now. But it's kind of like it's a way of sorting through the group, I suppose. So it's not necessarily a bad thing. The annoying thing with this is that women do the exact same thing, by the way. Like, women are constantly shaming each other. They just do it in in different ways and a little bit more subtle ways. Like, what do you think tabloids

Threat Detection And Protector Instinct

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are? And what what do you think magazines like Cosmopolitan and People and those magazines that literally just show unflattering photos of celebrities and like, oh, look at this famous person that gained weight now, or look at this famous person that you can see their cellulite and this unflattering photo. Who do you think that's for? Like, that is not guys aren't worried about any of that. They do not care like in the slightest, especially not to the point where they're going to buy a magazine to read about it. Like, it's insane that like that is the target audience for that is women, and they keep producing that content because the women keep buying it and it's working, it's selling. Like, guys just don't care about bad cosmetic surgeries going wrong. They might like show the slightest bit of interest if it's on Facebook, but they probably won't click on the article if it brings up another pop-up. Like they just they might just leave a comment if they're weird. But like when it comes to shame and that sort of behavior, one of the most powerful female influential tools is the threat of being ostracized. And so women will do everything they can to stay into the in the group, but they're petrified of being cut off from the group and not like fitting in with the group. So much so that of like when you look at schools and you look at the guys playing and the girls playing, the guys will have like clear hierarchy. They'll have you captains, they'll pick teams, there'll be a clear winner and a clear loser at the end of the lunch period. Girls will sit in a circle. There's no direct hierarchy that anyone can really point out. There's no one like trying to rise to the top, they're not picking teams, they're playing games like hopscots, they're playing house, they're playing skip rope or jump rope where there's no actual winner. You don't win any of those games, so no one can be at the top or no one can be at the bottom of the losing thing. It's all just let's keep the group happy. But it's the same sort of thing because if they're doing something outside of the group, if they do something that does rise them to the top, then they they get picked on by the group and they or they might get ostracized or cast out. Like the worst thing ever is being ostracized by the group. This is why trends work so well for girls. It's also why girls I was reading about like intersexual competition, and there's this woman that was talking about she's a doctor that studies intersexual competition and the way that men compete versus the way that women compete. And obviously, the way That men compete is super obvious and direct. It's like they compete by being the best at whatever the thing is that they're doing. So the fastest runner, the highest jumper, the guy that can score the most goals is like whatever the thing is, he is the biggest, the strongest. All those things. For women, it's it's different because they're they're a lot more indirect. So even when it comes to like shaming and stuff like that, they wouldn't even they wouldn't necessarily shame them to their face. They would usually go through the route of gossip and reputation burning. So like they would be like, Oh, did you hear about this or that? Or she said this and said that. And it's like it's always it's always like indirect and going around a way that there's some doubt, and then when they get if they do get confronted, then they can say, Oh no, no, no, I didn't say it like that. You know, they can kind of protect themselves. It's very clever, and it's like you know, if guys were smarter, they probably would do that more. Instead, they just go and fight each other, and that solves the problem. But um, uh, it never solves the problem, by the way. Anyway, the um, yeah, so this doctor was talking about how how the women compete, and they'll and she was saying how uh a really high-tier, like 10 out of 10 women will wear some piece of clothing that seems to not really be flattering on anyone else but them themselves, or like you have to be a very specific particular body type. But because girls need to keep up with the trends to be like in the collective group, they try, they try to buy the same things and wear the same fashion uh you know things, and it doesn't suit them, but they don't really have a choice, and so their mate value decreases, whereas the really super you know, 10 out of 10, theirs might decrease a little bit, but but barely in in comparison, and those at maybe a lower scale will decrease dramatically because they just don't have the the body type or the look or whatever it is. It's a really interesting uh study that they did. It was uh I'm gonna find out more about it. Maybe I'll go into a little bit more of the that next week. Um I feel like I say that all the time. I'll talk about that another time, and then I never do, but but I will I will because that's an interesting one. So anyway, going back to the video, he he goes on to say that like he's claiming that the reason why men don't call out bad behavior in other men is this silence thing, right? So he's like the reason why

How Women Shame Through The Group

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men aren't pulling up other men and saying, you know, that's wrong, you shouldn't be doing that, is because they're they're they're staying silent because they don't want to be labeled something. If they were to say something, so if they were to call out their friend, or not their friend, just another guy, then they might be labeled as feminine or girl or dogging the boys if they're calling these things out. Which is the weirdest real like narrative that is so far removed from reality. I don't understand where this is coming from. Since when do guys not call out other guys? 90% of fights that guys get into is because of that, of guys like stepping in and saying, hey man, like like if you go to a bar, most of the time you're gonna see a fight break out because one guy was being a little bit too maybe weird around a girl, and a guy said something about it and and was like, hey bro, like leave her alone. And then they he's like, Oh, well, you know, it kind of and something comes up. That's that's a common cause. It's not the only reason that guys get into fights, but it's definitely a common one that happens a lot. Like this idea that men aren't calling out things in other men, it's not true, it's just not true. Men are doing it all the time, and like that is how and why so many fights start. It's not because guys are all supporting each other and then they just happen to make eye contact, or all of or men just like get into fights because they bumped into one another and that was all it took, and then they're fighting. It's because they're calling out things that are bad, they're calling out behaviors. So that's one thing. And like, first of all, it's really, really annoying as well that girls seem to have this expectation online. I don't know if this is in reality and in like the real world, but online there's a lot of this rhetoric where girls are wanting guys, they they have this expectation that guys should just be fighting each other all the time. Like, if if something happens that uh a guy does something that that another guy should step in, confront the guy, and possibly fight him to reshape his behavior. So I'll digress for one moment. I actually did this once. I called out a guy for seemingly creepy behavior, and I didn't do it for ages. I was talking to a girl that was I was sitting next to a girl, and a guy was like putting his arm around her and she was pushing it away, and it didn't seem like she knew the guy, and he kept doing it, and she kept saying, like, oh, can you not do that? And I, you know, was scoping it out because I'm like, she doesn't seem too disturbed, but like this is kind of also weird, and in the gentlest way, after like she had said three or four times, hey, can you stop doing that? I was like, Bro, like she doesn't want you to do that, obviously. And in like such a like, not even you know, hostile, like mate, you know, hey, leave her alone, like not even like that, like just like dude, like it's it's kind of getting weird. Like she said it a bunch of times now. Well, the girl's friend absolutely sprayed me. I've never been yelled at louder in front of so many people for so long. This girl lost her absolute mind, and it was like, I was like, what are you talking about? Why are you yelling at me and not the the creepy dude? Like, maybe they they did know each other, and she thought I was I was trying to be that kind of guy that's like, hey buddy, like leave her alone, she's with me, like that kind of weird thing, but it was not even remotely like that. And so, first of all, the risk isn't worth the reward in those scenarios. That was the gentlest bruh, kind of coming off as a bit of a creep. That was more of a uh advice for the guy rather than anything else, not a confrontation. But doing that, I was like, Well, I wish that I didn't say anything at all now, because of because that was insane and and very just a bad situation to be a part of. So there's that, that can that can happen. You can you can be accused of trying to be the white knight hero that's like cringe or whatever, so that's also bad, but like nothing, it's it's not always gonna be this like Disney movie perfect outcome that you envision it to be, where a guy's being a creep and then another guy comes up and says, Hey, you're doing the wrong thing. That's in it, apologize to her right now, and then he just goes, Oh, oh, oh, oh, I'm sorry, yeah, okay, I'm sorry, I won't do that ever again in my life. And then uh, and then you're the hero, and then everything works out. Like it's just not that's just not reality that we live in. Not only that, but guys are constantly calling each other out, just not in the ways that you think that they are. So you don't have to use this crazy direct approach of being like, leave her alone, or that's inappropriate. Like, I'm there is never gonna be a time where I'm gonna pull my friend aside and say, Hey man, what I thought you did there was really inappropriate, and I think you should go and apologize. Like, that's just not how it works. There's ways that you can confront guys without creating this weird, awkward tension between you and them for the rest of your lives. If a guy's being like a little bit over, like pressing boundaries or overstepping boundaries with a girl, you just you would say something kind of lighthearted that draws attention to it. Like, oh, look at old Ms. Mr. Touchy over here, he's getting a bit like handsy, and you kind of like draw attention, and then like people kind of laugh, and then he goes, Oh, you know, he sort of it's calling it out without confronting it, but it's shining a light on the behavior and then making fun of it and making fun of the guy for doing it. So, in that sense, that's a form of shame. You're kind of like making fun of the guy, but that's like a good thing. And it's like, how often do you see like one okay, talking about like male competition? How often do you see men trying to take the low road to impress girls by calling out behaviors in other men and being like, oh yeah, you know, like that guy, he's got a bit of a bad reputation, or you know, they might try and sneak in or like get the upper hand in a competitive environment around other women by calling out bad things that the guy's doing. Oh, yeah, well, this guy does this and that guy does that. Like, like that, I used to see guys doing that all the time. They were always trying to undercut, and like we know it to be a really dog move, like to just trash your mate in order to get an upper hand. But knowing that doesn't change the fact that that still happens a lot, where it's like just little jabs, just like little things, and it's like so that they kind of are like guys aren't really that silent around their mates. Like the issue is that you're trying to say guys aren't calling out the bad behaviors when they're like beating their wife or something, as if any guy would tell anyone else if they were doing that, like all the stuff that's like the really bad stuff, no one

Do Men Call Out Bad Behaviour

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knows that they're doing it. Like when like any any bad situation or of like abusive situation, they aren't behaving like that when you're there. So if I'm at a friend's house and let's say they were abusing their spouse, they're not gonna do that while I'm there. Like, I'm not gonna know. Because the amount of guys that would say something if they did know is astronomically high. There's definitely, I'm sure that there's cases where guys uh aren't saying things that that you know, some really bad guys that do know about ways that husbands are treating their wives, let's say, but they're not gonna be looking at videos on Instagram and listening to that advice either. Like they're not going to be listening to the guy that talks about fantasy novels and take and be like, yeah, that's really good advice. I should listen to that. If they're if they're covering up their friend's like their friend's domestic abuse, then they're not going to listen to you. Like all of the guys that watch that video are guys that would definitely say something if they saw something very, very bad happening. But most of the audience is girls anyway, and so it's it's more of like that type of advice is pretty much just performative and pandering to women that hate men, essentially, or just more to women that have been hurt by men, because 90% of the comments were all just women that have no idea how men socialize and that have just had bad experiences with men, and um, and that's not good. That's not good that there are there are genuinely bad men out there that lie, and but the issue is that they try and make this thing a gender issue when it's it's really not like the reason why women hate men and men hate women, like the big gender war thing that's going on, is because they're not experiencing the same things with their own gender because they're not dating their own gender, and so that how could they? How could they like the girl that's like oh all men are trash, is like because you've only dated men, you're not dating women that could potentially be the same trash. Like, my no, my experience as a guy, the only issues that I've had in dating is specifically with women, and in my experience, it's only ever been women that have been that have lied to me and gaslit me and manipulated me, and like so my point of view could be well, it's women that have the issue because they do all this stuff, like they um emotionally manipulate me, or they you know, shame me for things and they control me by their you know manipulation behaviors and whatever the thing is. My perception could be well, it's just it's just women that are bad because I'm not I don't know what it's like with any other gender, with the other gender, and it's the same thing. So like all of the guys are like, Yeah, women are so bad because they do this, this, this, then this, and the women are going, yeah, men are so bad. But it's like you're not if you just swap genders for the day, you'd have the same hatred for the other gender. Like it's not even a it's not a gender thing, it's just a bad person thing, it's a bad human being thing. So, anyway, he goes on to say that he goes, the system that creates men who take women's lives is the same system that creates men who take their own lives, which is again again, like it's just like such a performative thing to say, dude. It's like men are taking their more their lives more now and speaking more now, like they're less silent about that stuff. Men are probably way more likely to call things out now than they ever have been, and yeah, so I just don't I think like I genuinely just think this is made up. I think when men when men were talking less, there was actually less unaliving of themselves. So maybe maybe the advice should be that we should be talking less, actually. We should be even more silent. The thing that like annoyed me the that probably annoyed me the most out of all this video is that he goes, essentially he's saying that this thing perpetuates the patriarchy and that the patriarchy is bad. Like okay, first of all, if you're a Christian, let's start there, because some people that listen to this are a patriarchy is actually part of God's design, which if you so if you're a Christian, you should support the patriarchy, because that's the design that God set up for one. Outside of that, so that's one thing, but outside of that you can't there isn't a society that exists that isn't a patriarchy because there it's impossible logically for there not to be. Like w what do you suppose a patriarchy actually is? Like it's a patriarchy is just a society that's the leaders of it are men, essentially. And the reason that that exists is because men have the monopoly on power. So men, women, who has the power innately, it's the men. The men always have the power, and the power dictates everything else. Women typically only have as much power as the men allow them to have. So you could you could like you could say, now stay with me if I'm losing you, I'll explain. As far as like enforcing anything, like you, you know, you call police, you call the army, it's it's full of men that are going to be doing anything. Even if it's I don't know, I feel like uh I feel like I don't even really need to explain that. Like I've done an entire episode on the differences of men and women, and I don't think you don't think you need me explaining why men have the the brute force power. Like when it comes to it, like you can have let's say political power or influence or whatever, but when it comes down to it, it's the physical actual power. Who's gonna stop me from doing something? You know, when people say, like, okay, the teacher might say to a kid, go to the principal's office, and the rebellion kid says no. And

Patriarchy Arguments And Power Reality

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and then the the the guy, the principal's like, we have to go. He's like, No, I'm not going. Like, who's gonna get the kid to go to the principal's office? Because like the authority didn't work, the authority is just like not working. And so at some point, let's say someone commits a crime, they have to be physically put in handcuffs and taken away. Like, otherwise, they can just run away. Like, so it when it comes down to enforcing any kind of law or policy or whatever it is, there needs to be a physical element of power involved. And that comes like men have the monopoly on that, men just have that innately inbuilt into the design. It's just part of the the male. Like, this is why they have like weightlifting categories, and why women's weightlifting is always less. Like, I'm watching at the moment, they've got the World Fitness Project on. The men and women will do the same workout, except the women just do less weight on their workouts. Like, it's not a it's not a surprise to know this. And so at the moment, anyway, it's the best it's ever been. Like, there's barely even a patriarchy at the moment. Like, as far as like we're talking about like disproportionate positions of power and CEOs, like the the power positions these days is is is very proportionate, I feel like. As far as CEOs, and I don't I mean, I don't even know what you think. I mean, I don't even know what the things are, but I know that like a lot of the things have been debunked, like the the the wage gap has been debunked like a bunch of times. Where we know that you know they don't consider things like men working more hours. They also don't consider the fact that women take maternity leave and then they have a heap of time off work. They also don't consider the fact that when a woman CEO and a man CEO, when they start businesses, a woman is like, I'm gonna make a hair salon and the guy's gonna make a landscaping business or something, where it's like it's going to pay a significantly more amount of money. Like it's never uh, you know, this idea of you know, women get paid 70 cents on the dollar. It's like, no, they don't, though. They don't. In fact, they're actually outperforming men at the moment, they're outperforming because of like the HR kind of roles. Women, I think, under the age of 25 earn significantly more than men. Uh and a lot of it is because of the corporate roles and the corporate jobs that they're getting. They're outperforming men in so many different areas, and especially in education, in insanely more educated now than than men. So I don't even know if there necessarily is like an uneven distribution of power as far as like what's been allocated and what what where people are. Um, but of course, like in any kind of situation, men could, by use of power and force, change whatever structure that we have now. So that's uh the patriarchy isn't a bad thing, it's not it's not it's also not going anywhere because it can't go anywhere. And and this guy thinks that guys shaming other guys is keeping the patriarchy going because men are being silent about bad behavior. It's just like, dude, what a oh dude, like this is the thing, man. Advice for men at the moment is is couldn't be in a worse place. Like, you had a few good guys come through randomly. The only got guy I think that's ever had any decent advice for men was Jordan Peterson. Outside of that, I don't actually think I think most advice is just how to be more like a chick and not be you. Like guys, guys should just be more like girls and then the world would be a better place. It's no wonder like you think about this the kind of world we're living in, and you go, okay, guys unaliving themselves at high high extremely high rates, through the roof. The biggest, the biggest killer of of men, like more than anything else. Actually, it's actually the the the number one predictor of dying early is being male. That's the it's the number one thing that that's taken people out, is them taking themselves out. And you look at the options that they've got, there's literally no good advice. It's either be a chick or join the manosphere. Both options are absolutely atrocious, and so it's like, oh like why like there's so much bad advice for guys like when. Where is this coming from? I feel like everything that guy said in that video, it is just made up. Like it's not based on anything. It's just like it's just online rhetoric that people have been spewing and has just picked up these things. It's a lot of like garbage talk. It's a lot of like therapy talk. Like I think he's on like therapy TikTok or something, and just like using these keywords. And people are like, Yes, send this to all the guys. They need to hear this. And it's like, oh blow my brains out listening to that video, bro. And I'm glad that I've done this podcast because now I don't have to watch the video again. So I watched it like three times just to like okay, make sure I'm actually hearing this dude right. And it was so hard to watch. But like, you know, but power to the dude for building his channel and for doing the book thing. Like that's awesome. Do your thing. You know, you you've got your niche, it's doing really well. Um, but just don't speak about men. Just don't do that. Just don't do that part of it. Do the book stuff. Just don't do them, just don't do the male advice stuff because it's bad advice. And your channel is for chicks. Your channel is for chicks. Like, there's no like I guess you probably have some male followers, but the the channel and the content is definitely 100% for girls. Um, and that's not a shot, that's not like an attack. It's like you got half a million followers, and that's a good thing to you know build. Um, but men should not be listening to that advice, that particular video's advice. Maybe he says some other good things, I don't know. Anyway, you know what, bro. Pray for Jordan Peterson for him to get better and for him to start talking about men again. Oh

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I need to wrap it up, eh? Alright, well, you know what? Nothing matters, man. Everything's trash, everything's garbage. Everything I said is garbage and it's trash. Because Christ is King, Jesus loves you, and he's coming back soon. So, thanks for listening again. I love you if you've stayed and you're hearing this part of it. You're awesome, you're amazing, God loves you, Jesus loves you, you're the best, I love you, and I think that you are going to change the world in your own way because you're gonna change the world of the peoples around you. You're gonna change their world for you being in it. So go for it. Give them heck. All right, bye.