2026 NBA Draft LIVE Reactions | Biggest Picks, Surprise Selections & Instant Analysis

We went LIVE for the 2026 NBA Draft and reacted to everything as it happened. From the biggest lottery picks to surprise selections, draft steals, team fits, potential trades, and instant reactions — we broke down the entire night live.

In this episode of The Warm Up, we discuss:
• Top picks and biggest surprises
• Winners and losers of draft night
• Team-by-team reactions and instant analysis
• Potential offseason moves coming next
• What this means for the future of the NBA

The offseason is officially here… and things are just getting started.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_13 0:13

Welcome back to the warm-up, everybody. We are live. It is officially the NBA draft. Joining me for some of this draft action is Matt. Matt, how are you doing?

SPEAKER_17 0:25

I'm good, man. How are you tonight?

SPEAKER_13 0:27

Man, I'm so excited. Like you said this morning, I feel like Christmas morning. Feel like the best day ever. I'm so excited.

SPEAKER_17 0:35

Um was your stocking full of little basketball chocolate basketballs and stuff as you woke up?

SPEAKER_13 0:40

Yeah, no, I I couldn't even sleep. I left work early. I'm just I'm just I just one of my favorite nights every year. Um just growing up as a basketball fan, like all the great players have been drafted, and this is just a life-changing night for all these kids out there, and I just get so excited about it.

SPEAKER_17 1:01

Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's a fun night. I I I couldn't imagine being on that stage that you see behind me. I I couldn't imagine being on that stage, but this is this is good enough for me. I mean, this is this is good enough for me.

SPEAKER_13 1:14

Yeah. Um, before we get you know get into it, just come come out, hang out with us. I'll be live the entirety of the first round. So if you guys just want to come in, talk, drop some um comments below. There will be some trades that happen. Um, we'll be here reacting to them all, watching all these picks. Um, Matt and I were talking before at the air, and we just think the draft starts at sit at five with the Clippers, and and yeah, I think that the top four are pretty solidified. I just don't know the order yet. Um yeah, I'm excited, man.

SPEAKER_17 1:54

Yeah, I am. And and to echo uh you know what you said is that the top four is about as as solid, you know, the only variation you could see it, and it's a small percentage, I think. At this point, you see AJ gaining more steam to be the number one overall pick. But outside of him and Peterson possibly flipping, um, you know, one, two, three, four is already booked. Uh, and then I think five is where it starts to get really interesting. And then uh, you know, about the only thing that could that could shake up the top four, like we said, is if Danny Ainge does what he does and seems to uh you know have another uh Tatum Mark Hill Foltz moment where he decides to drop down because he he he's got the inside scoop. But um I'm excited. I like I said, I I think the clock really starts with uh the Clippers and and what they do at number five, and and if they're going to uh you know, Acuff is is another person that seems to be gaining a lot of positive momentum. Does does Waggler stay up or did does Acuff you know jump up to that spot? So um it's gonna be good.

SPEAKER_13 3:00

Yeah, no, I'm I'm super excited to see what happens definitely with Acuff. Um, I think he's I think wait we have a comment from uh Lei said, Whoa, is that Matt, the Jalen Brown super fan?

SPEAKER_17 3:19

You know, he's still on the Celtics. I've always had faith. No, I'm not gonna lie to anybody watching. It's it's it's time, it's time. It's it's a it's a bad, it's a bad breakup, and it's just time to go. It's it's time. There's nothing we can do.

SPEAKER_13 3:35

Yeah, oh Ford joined.

SPEAKER_17 3:38

Can you hear me?

SPEAKER_13 3:39

Can you hear me?

SPEAKER_03 3:40

Okay, hey, what's up, Ford? Can you hear me?

SPEAKER_13 3:43

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_03 3:44

I know you're here now. What's happening? What's happening? What's happening? What's up? Not much, man.

SPEAKER_13 3:50

Thank you for coming on tonight and just you know, hanging out with us for a little bit. Oh yeah, I ain't got enough to do. I'm excited. Yeah, we were just talking about the draft. Um, you know, the solidified top four picks, and then just how the clip. I think we all think the draft starts at five. Um, yeah. Do you have any any thoughts on just tonight as a whole?

SPEAKER_03 4:12

Or man, I'm just ready to see what kind of trade is gonna happen. Yeah, I think we all I mean you can't go wrong one through three, whoever you pick. I mean, yeah, one through five, really. I mean, you got some top five talent right there, so you can't go wrong with I think one through five, you can't go wrong. If you pick one, whoever it is. I think it's probably gonna be Peterson, though. Yeah, I think it's gonna be Peterson. Washington, right? Washington's number one pick? Yeah, yeah, I think he goes there. Yeah, or I mean, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think that's I think that's the best fit, honestly. I think they need a wing, a Bradville type that come in and score. You're gonna get a bucket. I think it'd be a good situation for him. Trailer's gonna set him up. I think that'd be a good spot.

SPEAKER_17 4:53

You know what's what's interesting about this year is that it's it's pretty rare that you've got two guys that are openly getting traded, two organizations taking phone calls on guys that average 25 points a game each, young in their prime. You've got the Celtics with Jalen Brown, who I can only imagine their phone is ringing nonstops. They've probably got a flyboard with a list of offers coming in. Yeah, and you go, you know, to New Orleans, and I don't I don't understand why, truthfully, they're they're wanting to trade Trey Murphy when to me that would be my building block. I would be uh packaging Zion out and really trying to rebuild the team, um, or yeah, looking to offload some some cap and see what you can do to rebuild around him. So I think for the Boston, it it makes a lot of sense after we know what happened with Jalen Brown to get him out, and part of it is self-inflicted, right? That was something that I will, you know, I do wholeheartedly agree with. Like he, you know, less than 12 hours after losing a 3-1 lead, he flat out said that's the best season he's ever his favorite season, right? Like you almost instigated that trade yourself, but I don't get it for the Pelican standpoint. But we're here now. We've got two players in their prime, 25 points a game, and I'm curious to see what the offers look like for both of them. Like, because Murray's got a little bit, or Murphy's got a little bit of age on his side, he's a little bit younger. Jalen's got the accolades, right? So I'm curious to see the packages and the differences of the packages when they both go. And it would be too crazy. I know you wouldn't like this job, but if if those two swap swap. So uh maybe get us Zion as well. I'm not a believer in Zion, but I just think it'd be cool to see.

SPEAKER_13 6:46

I mean, that's kind of that fundamentally change how the Celtics play, kind of how in a different way than if you guys would have got Giannis, right? Like we have this interior force of Zion that cannot shoot the ball, but that that'd be interesting to see him on the cell to the Celtics for sure. But I think for me with Trey Murphy, like I think I think the only thing I can think the Pelicans are doing is they want to sell high on a player that they feel like will eventually leave them um later in the later down the line. And I and I do I do get maybe they're trying to get that Mikhail Bridges hall where it's like just a bunch of picks, but they're also not in a situation where it's like, well, I guess Brooklyn really wasn't either. So I I don't know why these teams find these very good, young, three and D wings. D is used slightly with Trey Murphy. Um, but I mean these super athletic players that the entire league wants, and then all of a sudden wants to try to sell high on them.

SPEAKER_17 7:49

It it it doesn't make sense to me. Like I said, I think you could, you know, they're they're trying to get rid of, you know, I believe Herb Jones as well. They they've asked for a couple picks for him.

SPEAKER_13 7:58

Two first is crazy though for Herb. His three-point shooting is falling out with it. He's hardly healthy. I'm just I I think that's way too big of an ask.

SPEAKER_17 8:08

Yeah. I I think that you would have better luck. And like I said, when you look at their roster, and I I got it pulled up right now. I mean, they're not an old team collectively. Like they're not. I mean, they they they're most of their players are um outside of Kevin, uh, Kevon Looney. They're they're all under 30 years old. Well, DeAndre Jordan, but he's on his way out, like he's 37. He's he's just there. Um, but man, they're young. I just I don't get it. I don't get why you want to get rid of your best player when I would rather pull him in to the office and say, hey, we want to rebuild around you. We're about to you're about to have a lot of new teammates next year. Like you're this is your team.

SPEAKER_13 8:49

I wonder if some of it's self-inflicted too. I mean, they made that historic trade last year, right? They give up Patrick Queen. And I mean, at the beginning of this year, we all thought the Hawks could have been picking in the top four, which would have been crazy start seeing how good they were after Trey Young was traded. But um I think it would be super hilarious if they traded Trey Murphy back to Atlanta, or not back to Atlanta, but to Atlanta with a pick that they traded last year for Derek Queen. Like that would just be the craziest turn of events I've ever seen. I would just I just feel like that'd be awful asset management. I think they're trying to make the Derek Queen thing work too much where they're kind of ignoring what they have in Trey Murphy, but they haven't heard of Jones.

SPEAKER_15 9:36

Yeah. Yeah. We'll see. Wizards kick.

SPEAKER_13 9:46

All right. We got we got a little over probably about 10 minutes before the Wizards kick. Um, I feel like let's let's talk about where we think like Washington should go, best fit. Um, whoever it is, talk about what that team's gonna look like once they get at it. Or if you want to go first.

SPEAKER_03 10:06

Uh, like I said, um not too long ago, I would say Darren Pearson. I think Pearson fit well. Um Trey Young, he averaged what, 10, 11, 12 assists, M A D, A D stays. I just think they need a wing player like that that can that's gonna come in be instant buckets. It's gonna be instant offense. Um play pretty solid defense, um, strong body. You know, I know you have some issues with you know staying healthy and out games, but uh I just think a guy like that can't pass up, especially guys for young. Yeah, you know, that one-two, I think that'd be a nice one-two punch um that you can build around for a little bit there. And they got some very solid other players too on the Washington Wills that feel well too, as well. So it'd be interesting. I think AD down there if he stays with Sarr, it's gonna be a great front court. Um, I mean, they're gonna be blocking some stuff, interior defense gonna be in crazy. So and then you just need a great three, and you'll be good to go. I think they'd be able to compete, be able to do something.

SPEAKER_13 11:05

I would decide. Would you take him number one regardless of team? Yeah. Okay, same. No, I I I'm with you. I he's number one on my big board. Um, I totally agree. Matt, what's your thoughts on the wizard? Where should they go? What do you want them to go?

SPEAKER_17 11:26

Yeah, I got I got AJ going there. Um I I think that uh you know, I I think Peterson might be, I think his ceiling is much higher. Um, and not much higher, but I do think, you know, like I said, when you get a guard that has the potential to um be that that elite of a scorer coming out, um you know, got good good size as a guard too. I feel like we're in a weird spot where we either have guards that are 6'3 or lower, or we jump and we skip all the other heights and we go to 6'9. I don't so that's five mark is is really good. Um, but I got AJ going there. I I think he, you know, Trey obviously with the big contract, he's gonna stay there. You've got you know SAR that's that's there, and he's gonna be another piece they continue to build around. Um I don't know if AD will get traded as much as I think it makes sense. I think with his contract, there's gonna be some issues there of what teams can actually get him if if that is the case, they want to get out of AD business. But uh, you know, they just took him in. I I think that you keep A D and this question is asked under the assumption that he stays healthy. I think you've got somebody on the backside of AJ that's gonna play some defense because as a rookie, you're gonna get caught, right? You're gonna have a learning moment, welcome to the league no matter where you get drafted. Um, so I think having AD back there can actually help um either one of these players. But for this, for me picking AJ, I think it will help um AJ on the defensive side and allow him to be what he is, which is an athletic gifted scorer to come in. So I don't think you can go wrong with either one, but I I I think it's gonna be AJ.

SPEAKER_13 13:12

Yeah, I mean yeah, on my big board, like like I said, I I have I have Darren Peterson number one. I would take a number one. But I I also see the point with AJ where it's like we're the Washington Wizards, we've been a laughing stock since John Wall left, since he has been out of his prime. Let's get a foundational, not only just a good player, but also a leader. And I think you see some of the comments that Darren Peterson has said where I mean there's nothing wrong with this work, he likes to be alone. Um you know what I mean? Uh he likes to do like shit just a different way. Like he's not the front-of-the-face like type guy. He's very stop-spoking, but you get a guy like AJ, that's your that's your foundation for the next, however long. You have the law coat full of bali, you have Trey Young, who just got done playing with Jalen Johnson. Um, you have like like you guys said, the front court, I think, will hide a lot of his defensive struggles at the at the beginning of his career with 80 and Alex Starr. You have Keyshawn George off the bench. Like, there's just a lot of you have Trey Johnson, who I who is one of my favorite players.

SPEAKER_17 14:20

That's a lot of trade justice last year, right?

SPEAKER_13 14:23

Yeah, yeah, Trey Justice Sunday. Yeah, I'm a huge fan of Trey Johnson. I I I do like what Washington's building over there. Um, I was absolutely flabbergasted that they gave Trey $53 million a year. I definitely thought if if you do that contract, it's you do it for like three years. The fact that we could be in AJ Devon's, like, I think that's the worst contract in the league. I think it's worse than Brad Bradley. It's almost as bad as Bradley Beals. Oh, yeah. Like that trade, that contract will never be traded. It can't be saved and stretched in like three three years. And with that being said, like Forrest said, you the Washington is on the clock. They've had, you know, the last what since May 10th to decide who they want. They've done their analysis, their last number one overall, or in 2020, they took Kwame Brown. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_17 15:21

I like what Washington is building, but Washington's one of those organizations, it's kind of relatable to like the Cleveland Browns as they get a bunch of talent. So like, I like what they're doing on paper, but it just doesn't seem to bear the fruit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:36

So hold on, wait. John Watt was a number one pick?

SPEAKER_13 15:38

Oh, he wasn't 2010. I'm sorry. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:41

Okay, I'm sure it was like, huh?

SPEAKER_13 15:42

Yeah. So they had number one pick in 2001 with Kwame, 2010 with John. Yeah. And now we're here in 2026 with X player. We'll see. I I do think we'll be AJ. Um, I think, I think you're I think look, motherfuckers already smiley trying to hold it. He knows. They told him two weeks ago. Um super exciting stuff, though. Well, what a night for these players, man. I got a chance to meet AJ last year um down in Vegas, and he was just him and his dad are absolutely amazing people, super humble, down to earth. Um yeah, I I I just can't wait to see what this family does. Um, I saw the other day, uh like last week, AJ's dad had texted Brian Winhorst a picture of a jazz shirt and a and a wizard shirt, and it's like they just do little quirky shit like that, where it's like, okay, they're super interested, they're super vested into this whole situation, they're taking it all in, and yeah, man. That that that number one overall pick salary is not what it used to be, I'll tell you that much. So life-changing money for sure.

SPEAKER_17 17:02

Right, yeah, that's another uh kind of interesting piece, switching gears to last night's breaking new trade. Um jogging on here just so everybody he he jumped on. That's how dedicated he is to the to the to the league. But Clay Thompson possibly going to join them in Miami. That that's a shooter right there that you know is towards the end, a cheaper player.

SPEAKER_03 17:24

So he need to play some pretty solid defense, too, for the most part. So, I mean, it'd be you can get you 10 points. You've been in like Mike Miller type, play a little defense. I think that'd be interesting.

SPEAKER_17 17:36

Stop worrying about them them ladies and just get back to Hoover. So, what do we what do we got?

SPEAKER_13 17:42

Three minutes, two minutes, you got two minutes on my clock, two minutes, and I get spoiled every year because I have Sham's tweets on because I have to, but in case any trades, but he tends to spoil it for me anyway. So if it if it comes by through my phone, you guys want to know, you guys won't be surprised.

SPEAKER_03 18:02

We got two minutes.

SPEAKER_13 18:04

Yeah. The pick is in, the pick is in.

SPEAKER_15 18:08

There we go. Hey, how far ahead?

SPEAKER_13 18:12

I hope I hope this is the I hope this is the pick that changes the franchise forever.

SPEAKER_03 18:18

I'm gonna watch being behind. This is nuts.

SPEAKER_17 18:21

I'm gonna flip that off and put this on my iPad so it's not in y'all's background. Now I've got it right here in front of me.

SPEAKER_13 18:28

Hey, um, I see there's 30 people in the chat. Let us know real quick who you guys got going number one.

SPEAKER_14 18:33

How do you see what um well?

SPEAKER_13 18:36

I think it's just like my thing. I don't think you guys can see it. But yeah, let us know in the chat who you guys want going number one. Who do you guys want going number two, three, four, five? Who's your team that you want to draft tonight? Um, any trades that you guys are expecting? I know Matt has a bunch of trades. Um, we got a comment. Party Della Cruz. He said AJ is going number one, no doubt.

SPEAKER_03 19:02

Okay, okay. You can't go wrong, man.

SPEAKER_13 19:06

Yeah, IJ Peterson in Utah is absolutely amazing. I mean, we'll get to them once once Utah's up, but that's gonna be a playoff team.

SPEAKER_17 19:16

Give me give me Caleb Wilson at number two. Let's get crazy. Yeah, yeah, that's that is uh the pick is in. So that is uh that that is my favorite player in this draft, probably is Caleb Caleb Wilson.

SPEAKER_02 19:34

So he's a monster.

SPEAKER_17 19:43

Peterson and Keontae George, don't sleep.

SPEAKER_03 19:46

Yeah, yeah, that's gonna be a good thing right there.

SPEAKER_13 19:49

There we go. Oh wait, are you guys ahead? Do you guys see it?

SPEAKER_03 19:58

Oh no. He didn't came out yet, but I think it's in, but what's the ticket so long?

SPEAKER_13 20:16

Yeah, for the Owen Gene Peterson and Keontae. Adam Silver must be sweet. Yeah, um I think Washington with this pick, I I think they're heading to the right direction, like we were saying earlier. They build to this, um, they tanked forever for this. Here comes Adam Silver with this. Um, they're taking away.

SPEAKER_03 20:45

Oh okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_13 20:51

AJ DeBonster. AJ. Number one.

SPEAKER_03 20:55

Number one pick, okay.

SPEAKER_17 20:56

And if I have to jump out of here, I'll just give y'all a heads up. We're about to get some nasty weather. It's hell and already outside.

SPEAKER_03 21:03

Oh man. Less. Be safe, brother. Be safe.

SPEAKER_15 21:06

Yeah, appreciate it.

SPEAKER_13 21:08

Yeah. Yeah. So AJ goes number one. Um, I feel like, like Matt said earlier, is probably leaning towards that direction for the past couple of days. Um, like I said, I would have taken Darren, but honestly, we you just don't know, and you can't really go wrong. Like, I think AJ, his upside is just as good as every everyone else's, but I'm excited to see him in Washington. Hopefully, it gives them something to cheer about. Um, he has some good bets in there. I think that's an underrated thing in the league right now. There's not a lot of young teams that have bets. So learn. I mean, AD went from coaching up Cooper Flag last year with the number one overall pick to coaching up AJ DeBonsa.

SPEAKER_03 21:51

Man, he's gonna do wonders for him, man. That's gonna be a nice mentor for him.

SPEAKER_13 21:56

Yeah. And AJ, uh A lot of people, you know, think Nate is like the 6'9 forward. He's a true 6'11. Um, oh yeah, enormous player. Like he I said in the in the mock draft uh view, I think he will eventually average 10 free throws a game. So you gotta think about it. Somebody his size averaging 10 free throws a game is just absolutely insane. Um super exciting stuff. You're getting, I think he's getting a three-level score, prolific athlete, best dunker in the draft. Um I do think his three-point shooting will it'll come along a little bit later, but his mid-range and his attack into the basket.

SPEAKER_03 22:41

He knows how to get to a spot, so super special. Yeah, I mean his three ball will fall at some point, but yeah, he got a solid base where he's he'd be okay.

SPEAKER_13 22:49

Yeah, what's so funny in high school too, they they comp them the Shea Gilders Alexander. Just a taller version. I'm like, oh, you're getting a 6'11 version of Shea Gilders Alexander. That's that's incredible.

SPEAKER_14 23:01

Yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_17 23:02

I got uh I got a something I think we should do since we are all, you know, at least me on on this side of the of the fence, I am connected to you guys from 2K. What would be this what would be his archetype? Oh, so I'll I'll go first and let y'all think. I've I've got him as a shot creating three-level score.

SPEAKER_13 23:28

Yeah. Yeah, that's probably spot on. I I I don't I couldn't think of anything. Yeah, yeah, he's a three-level score, you know what I mean? Like, okay. Um, I I think we'll be insane for him if he can become that two-way, whatever the next part is. I think if he can truly become oh, the pick is already in for Utah? Is it fine as it don't? Oh no, no, they're still on the countdown. Yeah, okay, cool. Um, yeah, I think if he could tap into that two-way presence, I think he all of a sudden becomes by far the best player in the draft because he has the length. Oh yeah, he has the speed. If he could guard perimeter players, because I know the shot blocking will eventually get there.

SPEAKER_03 24:09

Oh, yeah, you got the size and strength.

SPEAKER_13 24:12

Yeah. So we got another comment. Um, are the Wizards and Utah Jazz playing in teams off rip starting next season, or y'all give them another year or two? Um, I I've been on the record saying I think the Jazz will make the playoff next year. I I think they'll be a top six team. Um obviously that's pretty that's pretty bold in me, but I definitely think I I truly think that the Jazz will make the playoffs. I think this team is ready to go. They've been tanking on purpose for the last who knows how long, four or five years since they traded D Mitch. I think they're ready to finally go. Wizards, I'm on the fence.

SPEAKER_17 24:55

I'll I'll tell you this for that for that comment. Um, the Wizards would have to double their win win game amount to make it to a play-in off last year's stats. Yeah, you also have to include this year, right? Is that I do think the Bulls will get a bit better. I think Brooklyn is extremely young with their draft picks last year, which should be a better team. They were both ahead of you. Halley's gonna be back. Don't know how much if he's 100% the Pacers go back to so I think the the road to that for the Wizards is much harder. Not to say it can't happen. You brought in, you know, Trey Young and AD. Um, you just took the number one overall pick. So I I think there is a road for them to get to the play play-in game this year, yeah. But it's a much steeper climb coming in um in into it. So yeah.

SPEAKER_13 25:52

Yeah. Good question, though.

SPEAKER_17 25:54

Great question.

SPEAKER_13 25:55

Another comment from Lei. AJ is a true 6'11 question mark. Yes. I think he measured in at 6'10 and a half, but with no shoes, but you don't play basketball without shoes on. So yeah, he he's a true 6'11. They said his growth plates are still open, so I don't know what that really means. Um, I think if he's gonna still grow or not, but yeah, he he's he's an enormous. Um, I think what's interesting with him too is like um he's like six months younger than Cooper Flag. And we saw what Cooper Flag was this year. So I think he has a lot of he has a lot to prove this year. He's gonna be that number one pick. I expect him to be like a Cooper Flag where he's an immediate impact to not winning basketball to but to AJ basketball.

SPEAKER_03 26:49

I don't know.

SPEAKER_13 26:50

But the pick is in for the Utah Jazz. Um is it? Okay. The pick is in. And as status 12, oh Utah Jazz did Darren Peterson. Peter.

SPEAKER_03 27:02

Okay, okay, okay, you see.

SPEAKER_13 27:04

Um yeah, Utah Jazz, I think, are just an insane team now. Now that it's official.

SPEAKER_03 27:10

Man, I don't I don't think they're gonna I don't think they're gonna make the play in. I think they'd make the play in. I don't think they'd be top six.

SPEAKER_13 27:15

Top six. Yeah, I know top six, top six might be a stretch, and especially in the West, but I'm I just believe in these years. Like their starting their starting lineup now is Keontae George, Darren Peterson, Lowry, Jaron Jackson, and Walker Kestler. So Ace Bailey Ace Bailey's off the bench. You have Bryce Senzabal off the bench, you have Philipowski off the bench, you have Isaiah Collier off the bench. Are those defense guys off the bench? Uh Senzaball's a shooter, no. Ace Bailey, who knows what he is defensively.

SPEAKER_17 27:48

Ace Bailey's undecided right now what he wants to be.

SPEAKER_03 27:52

So, I mean, they're gonna they're gonna lack a lot of defense on that bench, man.

SPEAKER_13 27:55

Yeah, they're starting their starting five will be very defensive. Like if they truly do bring Walker Kessler back, he led Defensive Player of the Year, Jaron Jackson Jr., Larry Marketing, seven feet tall. Front court is absolutely space, switch everything. Um, Darren Peterson's a very good defender already. I I like like I said at the beginning of the pod, I wouldn't be surprised if we look we look back, you know, five years, six years, ten years, twenty years from now, and Darren Peterson's by far the best pick.

unknown 28:27

And why they would be selected.

SPEAKER_17 28:30

Well, badly for Darren. Peterson's gonna be a superstar. Danny Ainge took him.

SPEAKER_03 28:35

It's yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_17 28:38

Danny Ainge took him, so uh you you've got to know that Peterson is gonna come out, and uh, you know, like I I said, you know, that was the only thing that could have switched in this this top four, is if Ainge had a different belief, whether that was in Boozer or Wilson. I don't think it would have dropped much lower than that. Um but the good news is is two picks are down, starting to get to the interesting spots of when you know I think these next two picks are pretty solidified. Boozer will uh will go to Memphis and then and then Wilson will go to the Bulls, and other than that, I think that you could start seeing some movement.

SPEAKER_13 29:12

Yeah. The draft definitely starts with the Clippers at five, whether they trade the pick, keep the pick. Um, yeah. So I'm I'm super excited. Pretty dope for the Jazz. Um, you know, they they worked so hard to tank this year um to get AJ, right? And I think I think them not getting the number one pick might be a blessing in the skies in the end, just because I truly think Darren Peterson's ceiling is higher than AJ's and I think if Utah did have the number one pick this year, they they would have taken the AJ.

SPEAKER_17 29:48

So who do you who do you have the Clippers taken?

SPEAKER_13 29:56

I have them taking I have them taking Keaton Wagler or Keaton Wagner or Braden Burry's, but I have I have Darius A Cup number five on my big soft to the Clippers, huh? Yeah, I listen. With Garland, I you could Garland, man. You could trade Garland.

SPEAKER_03 30:19

So you trade Garland.

SPEAKER_13 30:22

I'm just saying my whole thing with A Cup is that if Calipari has coached John Wall, he is coached um Um Shea Gilgis, he's coached.

SPEAKER_03 30:33

No, I mean it's I like A Cup.

SPEAKER_13 30:36

He said by far A Cup's the best player. He's coached. That is that is some high praise.

SPEAKER_17 30:43

Pick's already in. Is it it is, yeah. Just so y'all know, this isn't alcohol. I didn't know if y'all were judging me.

SPEAKER_03 30:52

Oh, drink your drink your monocle, whatever that is. Drinkabucha, okay. Your white claw, whatever, your club tails, whatever.

SPEAKER_16 30:59

Yeah, I don't do none of that. I don't do none of that.

SPEAKER_03 31:04

That's not an alcoholic, I don't name all of them.

SPEAKER_16 31:11

Man, still nothing.

SPEAKER_13 31:13

Jazz met with Peterson over the weekend. Okay. So so that that was the one of the turning points right there. Peterson didn't want to play with the with the Jazz. Um at first, he didn't want to him uh because him and Keontae George same uh share the same agency. And if they if they drafted Peterson, it would hurt Keontae George's extension. Now the Jazz got to meet with Peterson this weekend, told them, hey, it's looking like it's gonna be you, and we'll see. I'm excited for summer league. I think Peterson, Peterson gonna play like one or two summer league games, they're gonna call it because he's gonna he's gonna have like 20 points in the first half and call it.

SPEAKER_03 31:58

You think so?

SPEAKER_13 31:59

Yeah. Well, I mean, maybe not the first game, because even Wendy had like what four points his first summer league game, right?

SPEAKER_03 32:05

I think he'll struggle a little bit.

SPEAKER_13 32:07

But now you got Cam Boozer. I'm a big Duke guy, you guys all know that.

SPEAKER_14 32:13

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_13 32:14

Um I coped Cam Boozer. I think he's coming out of college, he's better than Kevin Love. Um I and I think Kevin Love is a multi-time all-star, he's an NBA champion, obviously. I think this is a player, met like analytically, he's by far the best player in the room, right? But yeah, by I guess you understand why you go the Peterson and AJ route. But I I mean, if you're if you're Memphis, like, hey, we're about to re traded Jaron Jackson and we're about to get Cam Boozer, like that is.

SPEAKER_17 32:47

I think what makes Boozer, I agree with what you just said about not the best player, but you he knows his role. He's coming in to rebound and to put putbacks up within that five to seven foot area. Like, yeah, I think with AJ, he there's gonna be anytime you're going, you're out on the out on the perimeter, you've got to. I think the NBA is much different than what his work for Boozer is gang bodies and clean up the mess. He'll we'll have to work on his defense at that level, but I think that that's what makes him so easy is like put him in, like you said, you lost Jackson. Hey, we're alright, we're gonna get boards right here, and there you go.

SPEAKER_13 33:33

Okay, okay, boozer. I think what's interesting too with Boozer, though, too, like I think his vision is super underrated. Um, I think coming in, just how you watched him play a duke, he was more back to the basket. Um, you know what I mean? People kind of tend to put more of that four or five. I think in the NBA, he's more of a three-four. Yeah. Um, I think if you watch him in high school, he had the mid-range going, he had the three-point shot. And even in the three-point shot on three attempts a game in college, like he was at 40%. Um, he could shoot the ball.

SPEAKER_05 34:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 34:04

Um I think this is a great pick. I I just picture Boozer being in the NBA for the next you know, 15, 18 years, and he's just gonna be a solid NBA player. You can't have that much more than I definitely think Boozer has the safest floor over Peterson and AJ.

SPEAKER_17 34:23

Do you like the comparison of him? Of I I know you said Kevin Love, but uh, another one um talking about a center that if if he plays a lot more than that center, I think the NBA is definitely spaced out on the floor. But an Al Horford, not tall, but just always knows where to be. Always, yeah, and I think that's what you could have with Boozer as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_13 34:44

Al Horford, too, like what's so interesting about him. You remember in those Atlanta days, he was so back to the basket. He was evolved his game over time. So, like, to your point, that fact that Boozer's coming in with the three-point shot. Like, imagine if Horford had that early on.

SPEAKER_17 34:59

Yeah, because he had to develop it, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_13 35:02

So, yeah, you're you're just getting a great NBA player. We Al Horford, Kevin Love, champions, right? So you're getting a player that knows his role, like he said, knows what what he is, and I I think he I think you know, him being the son of an NBA player, I'm sure he has a little chip on his shoulder, you know. I I think him falling the three here. I think I wouldn't be surprised if we we look at Summer League, he's like, oh shit, he had 25 and 15 today. You know what I mean? Like, oh yeah, he's gonna be he's he's gonna be a mic. I think today he's the best player out of the first three, right? You know what? I don't know.

SPEAKER_17 35:42

The downside is that I think out of the teams that have drafted this this point, he went to the worst one.

SPEAKER_01 35:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_17 35:52

You know, just cross construction-wise, I think he went to the worst one, Jaws on his way out, just got rid of Jackson. This is, you know, I think Utah has a vision and age. And then I think, like I said, you know, the Wizards, I know you said the worst contract ever in the history of the NBA uh with Trey Young, but you've got a guy that's been in the league. You've got AD on the backside, you got Trey Johnson as another in wing. So I think that's that's the one downfall where Boozer win is he is going to meet to the probably the worst team, um, if not one of the the bottom three in the league.

SPEAKER_13 36:28

Yeah, no, I agree. I th I think it would be good for him too, though. Like, you probably couldn't, like, I think him on the wizards, he wouldn't have got the touches right. I think now perfect.

SPEAKER_04 36:38

He's gonna get touches.

SPEAKER_13 36:39

I think now he's without what Cameron Boozer is at the NBA level. Can he shoot? Can he shot critic? Can he he could kind of just do a bunch of shit without having that added pressure? Where if he goes to the Jazz, it's like, okay, Jazz ready to make the next lead. Hey, Washington, you're now number one. Why isn't this number one player playing up to that potential? I think I think even to a lesser extent than Chicago, like, Chicago's starting to turn the turn the page on this last regime, and you can see them. They made that Nick Claxton trade yesterday. Like, they're starting to look like an NBA team. Um, I think they'll they'll complete a lot of the the start of this rebuild um tonight with Caleb Wilson, who I mean Matt and I were saying before the before we started streaming, the Bulls had the easiest pick tonight. They just got to pick whoever was left over of the top four. And yeah, and yeah, I'm super excited for boozer, though.

SPEAKER_17 37:33

They're the kids at the dinner table. Hey, just eat what's left. Yeah, that's that's it. And for them though, that that's a that's a great that's a great eat what's left. I mean, like I that's my favorite player in this draft is Caleb Wilson. I think that he's gonna come out. Um, like I said, I just think that he the NBA is a much faster league compared to college. It is with all first sports. And I think he's gonna be able to come out the gate and uh, you know put his his stamp on the Bulls pretty quickly, saying, hey, um, you know, I'm gonna give you guys 12 to 15 pretty quickly and then accelerate from there.

SPEAKER_13 38:12

You know, well, all the shit that you know Josh Getty gets, he can't shoot, and you know, Thunder traded him and they won the championship the following season. But I mean, if you're Josh Getty, he might lead the league in how the oops between Guzelis, Caleb Wilson, and Alan Nick Claxton. A super fucking athletic team. It's gonna be a nice dunk team. They're gonna be up and down the floor, too. Yeah, and I had him mocked. I mean, my my my favorite player in this draft besides Morez Johnson is Cam Carr. So if you could get a Cam Carr to start at the two, that is an incredible start to you're building something with that.

SPEAKER_17 38:46

So don't forget about Mac McClung, two dumb dunk champion.

SPEAKER_13 38:50

Oh god is he still on the street?

SPEAKER_03 38:55

Hey, uh where you got Cam Carr going, you said I got him, I got him going to the Bulls.

SPEAKER_13 39:02

To the Bulls again.

SPEAKER_03 39:03

Okay, 15.

SPEAKER_13 39:03

Okay, yeah, I got him going to the Bulls. If I and now now kind of I'm kind of looking like I think he has so much upside. I wouldn't be surprised if um Milwaukee uses that new 13 pick that the Heat just traded to them. I think if he gets the chance to just have a bunch of touches and shot create, I think we could see something special with that. Oh yeah, yeah, that'd be nice. And it's official, Caleb Wilson.

SPEAKER_17 39:29

Oh you're already ahead. Oh yeah, never mind. It dropped on that the tracker I got, but it hadn't come through the TV yet.

SPEAKER_13 39:37

I think I think what a lot of people didn't talk about with Caleb Wilson, um, he's the only player out of the top four. He played against Peterson, AJ, and Cam Booster this season. He kicked all their ass.

SPEAKER_05 39:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 39:53

Um and it wasn't close, and he was by far the best player on the board every single time they played. Um super interesting that now he falls to four. Um I mean, you want to talk about a chip on your shoulder? I think he totally, totally has a chip on his shoulder. And like Matt said, I think we he he could potentially have the highest ceiling, or not the highest ceiling, but he could easily be the best player in this draft. Okay. Um and yeah, super excited to watch Caleb Wilson. Just because he's so raw, and if he gets that shot down, it's it's gonna be more.

SPEAKER_17 40:40

You add a little bit of muscle to Caleb and get him a pretty consistent jump shot, he's gonna be a problem.

SPEAKER_13 40:49

Yeah. Well, I mean, if they if I mean jump shot aside, if they just put him on the Giannis guy, he he jumps die is Giannis, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, and he's a little quicker. So yeah. Um, so top four picks are in, no fucking surprises there. Um, very status quo. Um like you said, this is where the draft starts. The Clippers are up. I'm waiting for a trade to happen. Um, I feel like I haven't been on Twitter, I don't know the latest intel and all that, but if the Clippers keep the pick, I'm excited to see who they pick. And if if they pick somebody and I'm like, that's interesting, it might be a trade. We're here to break it all down, to react to it. Um I mean, let's talk about the Clippers real quick. Like, how blessed were they that the Pacers pick didn't come uh converted to that?

SPEAKER_03 41:49

Oh yeah, the Zubot, yeah.

SPEAKER_13 41:51

What a year was for the Clippers. Like they had the whole aspiration thing to start the season. Um you know, they start the year was like 6 and 26 or something like that. Yeah, they start out real bad. Yeah, right, and they they've totally put the season, and then to end the season, it's like, oh hey, by the way, you get the fifth pick in one of the best drafts we've had in a couple years, so that was a turn of events for them.

SPEAKER_09 42:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 42:20

Does Cable Wilson have a bedazzled hat? Is that like a new thing?

SPEAKER_17 42:27

What's he got?

SPEAKER_13 42:28

Did Cameron did Cam Bullet have that? That guy'd be custom. That can't be what the NBA game was.

SPEAKER_03 42:33

It had hard, it had hard, like a Russian crystal on it, whatever.

SPEAKER_13 42:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_17 42:38

A little bit of flair. There's nothing wrong with that.

SPEAKER_13 42:41

Hey, did you guys see AJ's suit?

SPEAKER_03 42:44

Yeah, it was clean.

SPEAKER_13 42:46

Yeah, he had like a Congo pin because his dad's from Congo, a Jamaican pin because his monster.

SPEAKER_17 42:54

So the Clippers, ninth in the conference, 42 and 40. Um as you said, they they kind of kicked it in. I I still think they've got an all-over the place roster, as I would say. They've got a little bit of young mixed in with a little bit of old. Um, they don't really have a spot where they're trending up. I feel like they're kind of flat in terms of where they're you know, they're not rebuilding, but I don't I just don't think this is a chance to roster at the same time. Yeah. So I'm I'm curious to see if they do take, you know, Acuff, which I won't speak for everybody, but he seems to be kind of like AJ was gaining that that momentum to be the solidified number one prior to tonight. I think that there's a lot of um excitement over what Darius Acuff can be. Yeah. So I I am curious if if they take him or they they you know completely go somewhere crazy, and maybe they go uh, you know, they they go down to name or they they they take lap. Like I am curious to see what happens right here. This is kind of the start of the draft to me.

SPEAKER_13 44:05

The pick is in. The pick is in. They're showing Waggler on the screen. They know something we probably don't. I do think Waggler is a player who is Waggler. Can easily play next to Gary Scarlet. He gotta do so much for that Illinois team. I'm excited to see what the Clippers do. I'm excited.

SPEAKER_17 44:38

Oh, uh Latin said, where does Flemings fall?

SPEAKER_13 44:45

I think Flemings is probably the least developed out of everybody in this draft at the guard. Or not in the draft, but out of the you know, four guards. Um I'd be shocked if he goes later than Dallas. Like I can't imagine Dallas passing up on him. So I think nine is probably a ceiling. Or his floor, I meant. Like he won't go past them. But Clemens is also a good player in Houston. Um was visiting Houston since he was um 14 years old. Oh, okay, the pick is nine. But the fifth pick. There it is. Yep. There it is. Keen Waggler.

SPEAKER_17 45:34

Wagglers off the board.

SPEAKER_13 45:36

That means So now, so now I I mean for Waggler, I love this. I love this for the Clippers. You got I I mean he's been comped to Tyree Halliburton. If he becomes Tyrese Halliburton, hey, that's a hell of a player to have. Um super exciting stuff. And and he's going to, in the organ, you know, I'm a Lakers fan, but I mean they have a good foundation where they have that new arena, they can put some buttons and seats with Wagler. Um, he can play next to Darius Darling, he's a great shooter. I think for him, he needs to put on muscle, he needs to put on weight, he needs to he has sneaky athleticism, but there will be no trade for the Clippers either, despite a lot of interest. And that is from Gabe Fisher. The Clippers do not are not trading this pick tonight.

SPEAKER_03 46:42

So he's a shooter, huh?

SPEAKER_13 46:44

Yeah, super, super like twitchy shooter. Um NBA count would be I do think it's uh uh a Tyrese Halliburton where like he is this point guard that can shoot. Um his shot is a lot better looking than Halliburton's. Um he's super super creative. His vision is underrated. I think you know, the whole thing with him is um how's he gonna get to the basket? Well, I think an underrated thing with him is his touch at the rim. He can get to the rim with his floater game. He's uh super versatile in that sense. And I think just naturally being the NBA, you'll you'll um gain muscle. I'm not too worried about the oh yeah. Uh if he can ever the defensive side of the ball, what point guards are really playing defense these days? You know what I mean? It's it's a select few.

SPEAKER_09 47:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 47:37

Um I do think Kim being surrounded by Kawhi Leonard. Damn, they don't have dang. So John Collins is a free agent, so hopefully they bring John Collins back.

SPEAKER_09 47:53

They need to.

SPEAKER_13 47:54

Yeah. Because I mean, no Zubok no more. Um Niederhauser, they took last year. I'm a big fan of Niederhauser. Um, I think he's gonna be a really good NBA big, super athlete. Um yeah, I mean Waggler got his law partner in Niederhauser. He could play off Kawhi, he could get the ball to Kawhi, and then more importantly, he could play off Harland if he um got Arland last year and Brigade Partner, and yeah.

SPEAKER_17 48:25

Well, does does Brooklyn does Brooklyn take Darius?

SPEAKER_13 48:30

I'm not gonna lie, I'm a little nervous for Brooklyn right now. I I think they're gonna overthink this one a little bit.

SPEAKER_17 48:36

I I really do like I'm I'm really shocked there's not it we still have two minutes, right? But would shock me if there's a trade, man. I I'm telling you, I think they need they need height, and well, you know, to see to see a team like man, does Dallas have the firepower to trade up and and take Darius? You know, I know you've got Kyrie there, but pairing a young guard with Koop.

SPEAKER_13 49:05

Um Well, and the thing is too, like the King, it's been widely reported that the Darius Acuff's agency, his camp, his people, they want him going to Sacramento. He can't go to Sacramento if the Nets take a rank. So if this is one of those things, Brooklyn takes uh Darius regardless and is calls the Kings, hey, take this guy for me, we'll make a trade if you want him that way.

SPEAKER_09 49:33

Why would he want to go to Sacramento though?

SPEAKER_13 49:35

I don't know. That kind of questioned my decision making for him because I never heard that sentence before. Somebody wanting to go.

SPEAKER_03 49:41

He needed, they don't they don't go together real well. They don't go together real well.

SPEAKER_17 49:44

I just I look at the draft board too, and like, man, there's a lot of teams that could use a Darius Acuff. Oh, yeah, without doubting that that's you know a good score.

SPEAKER_13 49:55

Well, and I mean we talked about John Morant earlier. I think the reason why John Morant isn't hasn't been traded is because all these teams that need a guard all have these picks in the top ten of this draft, right? And those are the ranges of where the guards are going like it's like what are you gonna do from there? So if board, so if you were the Nets right here, who you going with?

SPEAKER_03 50:24

You go with the best available. Yeah, who the best available is. I mean, I'm pretty sure he probably got I don't know, we'll see. I think it'd probably be maybe a cup, but I think I think they'll pass on A Cup and he'll go to Sacramento, unfortunately. He'd go where he wants to go.

SPEAKER_13 50:42

Yeah. I mean it'd be great for the Kings to get at least a starting block for somebody. Um I think you sent that tweet today, they're looking to waive DeMar DeRosan if there's no trade partner. They still wily rumored they want to get off Levine and Sabonis. You still have Malik Monk there, you still have um Sabonis, but they want to give her Sabonis too, right? Keegan Murray. Um yeah, so we'll see. But like Brooklyn, they they traded Nick Claxton last night. Um, do they go big here? They they traded for Julius Randle, they have Michael Porter Jr. Um, you got three and a four, yeah. They had they had five firsts last year, and they all sucked, right? They're all young and they don't have that big guy. I've never seen the team have five firsts in one draft, and not maybe one of them. Every last one blew it, yeah. Uh but the pick is in.

SPEAKER_03 51:36

Damn, I see it now. That was horrible. Shit. Excuse my language.

SPEAKER_17 51:41

Oh, Brown, Mikhail Brown.

SPEAKER_13 51:43

Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_17 51:44

Mikhail Brown.

SPEAKER_13 51:47

I I had I had Mikhail Brown six on my big board. I had, so I'm not mad at it. Um, I think this is great for Brown. He's gonna be able to hoop. Um, it sucks he's going to Brooklyn. It's a team that you know is the right-headed stepchild to the Knicks who just won. Um, but there's no pressure for Brandon. I think Mikhail Brown was one of the best shot makers in this. I think he's the second best shot maker to Darius A cup. Um, they're getting a hell of a player. Hell of a player at six.

SPEAKER_03 52:18

Right there, man.

SPEAKER_13 52:19

Um I I mean I have Mikhail Brown projected at six, and I had Darius at five, so I would assume A Cup now goes at seven, but things have happened.

SPEAKER_17 52:32

Well, well, I mean, hey, good good for Mikhail Brown. You know, there's never you know, that's that's the good thing about the NBA draft is right, this is all good news for all these players. There's no negativity tonight. Oh, yeah, of course. Um, that comes during the season.

SPEAKER_13 52:47

Yeah, uh that comes after the first summer league game, okay? Oh, yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_17 52:52

Then as as fans, as we all are have our respective teams that we follow, then we get to be a little bit negative on the on these, you know, but but you know, these are all young kids and this is their dream. So, you know, whether you go to a good or a bad team or anything like that, I mean, congrats.

SPEAKER_03 53:08

Going to a good and bad team, they can make it break your people's career, man, without doubt. It absolutely breaks the talent.

SPEAKER_17 53:14

It depends where you go, and that's why you know I think you know, kind of backing up. I mean, again, congrats to Brown, but I think backing up to the boozer, I mean, thank goodness he comes from an NBA father that that will help him when the when Memphis struggles because they will struggle. And I feel like that's already kind of a not so much a toxic culture. I think when you get rid of Jaw, you kind of clean up some of the mess, but um, got somebody that will tell you, hey, this is part of the game, you're in a business, you focus on you and help the team win. Don't get to the outside distractions um that has been wrapped up with that team for so long. But um switching back to Brooklyn, I think that Brown is it, you know. I would say it makes sense, but I also think you could have put Darius Acuff there. I mean, I think, like you said, y'all, they had five first round picks last year. And yeah, what do you have to show for it, right? Like nobody really just popped off the board and said, hey, this, you know, so we'll we'll see. Will he just fall into the mix and be one of this, one of the guys, or will he actually come through and um prove why he was the number six pickers?

SPEAKER_13 54:22

I will say for somebody like Mikhail Brown, like he has great vision. Um, I think him and him and Michael Court Jr. I think are gonna be a fun, that's a fun player to add to bail-out guy that just wants to shoot everything. Hey, shoot this shit. You know what I mean? Them getting Julius Randall's kind of I don't I don't like it, him and Randall fitting together, especially with now hearing Mattel Brown, who's more of that shot maker and shot creator more than a playmaker. But you're Brooklyn, you took the player that you thought that was best. Um, I've seen he's taller than A Cup, so I get the reason why they went with him. He has a little bit better defensive tendencies. And yeah, they haven't had a guard like this since Kyrie and Harden and before that D Lo. So um I'm excited for Brooklyn. Hopefully, John Marks and the crew could get you know Brooklyn kind of back relevant because when they're kind of in the mix, they're a pretty fun team to watch.

SPEAKER_17 55:20

And yeah, I I am curious to see how he maybe a lack of touches, right? You got Julius Randle and you've got Porter. Both of those guys are gonna get their shots up, right? So um, how do you how do you you know come in and contribute outside of passing the ball and being that playmaker? How do you come in and and you know get your own shots? Yeah, so uh court for sure.

SPEAKER_13 55:52

Yeah, but the pick is in for Sack.

SPEAKER_17 55:55

Um oh man, well, we know this. I feel like this is a quick one.

SPEAKER_13 56:00

Yeah, I I don't even think the clock went to two minutes. I think they ran to the fucking hey, Acuff, Acu, hake up. So yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know, I I wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised if A Cuff camp said we wouldn't throw a fit if we get drafted by Brooklyn. Um, Brooklyn's really not that they don't have a Danny Ames that doesn't give a fuck and they'll do what they want. Like if Acuff truly didn't want to go there, I wouldn't be surprised if ACUF was their better player, but it went brown instead. Um, let's yeah, shout out to Mikhail Brown Jr. I I he was one of my most excited, uh interesting players heading into the tournament. But moving over to the Kings, the pick is in for the Kings. Um I'm gonna let y'all see it. Spoil it. The Kings get Darius Aka from Arkansas. Okay. And I I think looking back, I think this is the best value in the draft so far. I think from a value perspective, cuff five on my board. The fact that he goes seven, he's going to a team. We have some Kings fan in here. Um Isaac said hey cuff. He said, let's go. I like it, man. You know, for the Kings, that they had that light the beam error and before and after that hasn't been relevant since. So I am happy that the Kings get a player that they can be excited about. They traded De'Aaron Fox. Um looks like they they sold at the perfect time. Um and they get another guard. If if Darius Acuff turns out to be what I haven't projected to be in five to ten years, I mean you're getting a Daniel type score. You're getting one of the best shooters, shot makers in the draft, and potentially will be in the NBA.

SPEAKER_03 57:56

Man, he's a tough shot maker too.

SPEAKER_13 57:58

Yeah, athletic. Well, not super athletic, but he he's a bulky guy. Like he's he's a habitable player. I'm I'm super happy that he's going to a situation where for the most part he could just be Darius. You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, obviously LeBine's there and um, you know, Savonis still, but I think with a couple moves, they'll man.

SPEAKER_03 58:22

He'd be he'd be number one option real quick real soon, I guess. At some point.

SPEAKER_17 58:27

Well, just so now we transition to Atlanta. Does Atlanta go for a guard and go get Fleming's out of Houston, or do they go um and get Nate out of Tennessee? Or I don't think they so I don't think they'll take Mara. I know who you're big on. Mr. Arizona himself is still sitting there.

SPEAKER_13 58:45

Braden Burries. Um, I mean, you know, this is where the kind of second wave of the draft, I think, start. Um, Atlanta now has Atlanta has been widely reported all day in the Jalen Brown talk. They're widely reported in the Trey Murphy top. They have this number eight pick that they got from the Pelicans from that Patrick Queen deal last year. They weren't even supposed to have a pick, they have it. Do they use this pick to get a cost control player next to Nikhil Alexander Walker, a point guard that they knew more shot trading, a guy that can be mentored by a CJ McCullough? Um, or do they turn that pick into something else? Do they go in in a way where it's like, oh, we want something more win now? I think, I mean, it was reported today that um Anthony Edwards might want out, and he's not super thrilled right now, but that ain't happening.

SPEAKER_17 59:39

I yeah, Edwards is frustrated at the lack of uh effort from the the GMs at Minnesota, so for not putting together a better team.

SPEAKER_03 59:53

Man, he's he's pissed towns gone, man.

SPEAKER_13 59:55

You trade bringing traded towns and towns was like the best player. Yeah, finals have you guys to get Randall and Randall and Randall gone. Gone. Well, not Randall not only gone, they salary dump. They rather they said, You're so bad, we'd rather not take anything back in return. Yeah, you we just want you off the team.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:14

I think that I think this might be his last stop, man. If you don't do nothing here, man, that'd be it.

SPEAKER_13 1:00:19

Yeah, he might be a minimum type guy, he might be a minimum player.

SPEAKER_17 1:00:24

Yeah, I'm uh you know, in terms of all the the trades that we were hoping for, I know the big one was last night, right? And actually, we had two. I mean, of course, the Julius Randle and then the Giannis trade. Um I think from here on out in the draft is where you will see some transactions, you know, whether that's this week or not with Trey Murphy and then of course Jalen Brown. I think we're getting into the teams that would consider you know moving moving players. Um I don't think we could have said that with the first through five picks for sure. And I really don't think Mikhail Brown or Darius A. Cuff is going to be part of any trades as well, because I don't think there's enough on those teams to get a trade for Trey Murphy or much less Jalen Brown. So these picks are um could be inspired by what Boston wants or what the Pelicans want, right? We don't know that. You know, I wish we wish we had that inside.

SPEAKER_13 1:01:21

Yeah, but uh what would you do here if you're Atlanta? What would you do if you're Atlanta? Like just what they did last year after the Trey Young trade, what they did against the Knicks in the first round. Like if you're Atlanta, what where are you going here?

SPEAKER_17 1:01:34

I think I think Flemings does make sense because he is, you know, I watched a lot. I'm in Big 12 country, so like I've got to see a lot of the Big 12. Yeah, um, so I think Flemings does make sense, but I think there's a question mark for me, at least, with uh Nate Ament and what he could really do. I I know he was projected high at the start of the season. Um, there was a lot of talk around him. Um, and then he kind of had some struggles in college, um, didn't really do what he thinks. But again, um kind of beating the old drum, you you you can't teach hype. He's six at the NBA body, but um I think I would go with I think I'd go with Flemings. I think I would go with with a guard that um doesn't necessarily look to score all the time, that's very you know, controls the court and can can distribute the ball. So I I think you go with Flemings. He seems like more of a sure thing over um, I think Nate's gonna take some development.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:33

Yeah. So what would you go here?

SPEAKER_03 1:02:37

Uh yeah, I like um be honest with you. I didn't watch near one of them play. Okay, yeah. Um, but I just think for them, I just think you go with best available fit. You got Dyson Daniels already there, you got Jalen. Um who they who's their point guard again? Who's who started at the pre-off? Okay, yeah, Nikhil was getting off. So I think you go with best fit for those. He already got three um nice pieces already there. I think you find the best fit that fits in with them. Um, whether it's a garbage or you know, a four or five. Um you got that what's his name? How do you say that? Oh, yeah. Yeah, you already got him, but he was kind of frustrated with his with his with his uh play, wasn't he?

SPEAKER_13 1:03:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:24

So I mean, I'm gonna go.

SPEAKER_13 1:03:30

And yeah, like it could have a terrible year to have a yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:35

I mean, you didn't have another choice. I mean, what else could you really do?

SPEAKER_13 1:03:37

I mean, but but even like how bad that year is if they just take Castle. Imagine Castle with now. Oh yeah, true yeah, Jalen Johnson, like fuck. Like, that's a true yeah, that's a hell of a fucking team. Um, yeah, no, I'm with you guys. Um, you know, I was telling, you know, we were talking off screen, and I was like, I'd go birds here. Um birds is my favorite player. I think he's plug and play next to Nikhil Alexander Walker. Um, if you go Flemings, I think he's also plug and play. I think I think if you're Atlanta, I think if you're Dallas right now, you're super happy the way the board has played out. Um Dallas, I've still got my eye on Dallas. Um I know they want to take this pick. I I'm curious to see who it is, and the pick is in. So Adam Silver's coming out. And Flemings.

SPEAKER_17 1:04:28

Yep. Fleming's which lines up to uh Mr. Jaws board because that leaves your boy to go to go to Arizona, to go to Dallas um to play alongside Coop.

SPEAKER_13 1:04:44

So I mean, let's talk about this real quick too, though, because I would pick Burry's, but I think what got lost in all the fucking news and the crazy shit, Dusty May is now the head coach of the Dallas Mavericks. Three of his Michigan Wolverines are on the on the boards. Do they take Amori Johnson? Do they take a damnari? Do they take um Yaksel Linderberg?

SPEAKER_17 1:05:10

I don't you don't take a day.

SPEAKER_13 1:05:11

You don't take a day. You you don't take a day, but I don't think so. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_17 1:05:17

I don't mind Yaxel. I know that for you it's I and I I understand what you're saying. I do think there is a thing, you know, he's 24.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_17 1:05:25

Um and he's he wasn't a top three kick, right? He wasn't a he's the best by far, but um do you do you take Braden to re to backfield with Kyrie? Because I do think within maybe not this year, right? I don't think Kyrie is a long term past another two years with the Mavs at that. And I think that he will, you know, they'll they'll end up moving Kyrie. I don't think he retires the Dallas Maverick.

SPEAKER_13 1:05:54

So uh yeah, we got a comment. Uh Davion said Fleming going to buy. So maybe are the Bucks gonna package that pickup?

SPEAKER_09 1:06:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:06:08

The 10 and 13 to move up to 8. Um nothing's came through yet.

SPEAKER_17 1:06:13

Um there is nothing yet on the board.

SPEAKER_13 1:06:16

I will say I wouldn't be surprised. Like if Milwaukee came out with Flemings, that that's a super good foundational piece for the Bucks to restart with now that Giannis is gone. Fleming is the best defensive guard at all the guards that have been picked, so um I think some other things. Yeah, him and Rollins would be sick.

SPEAKER_17 1:06:49

Yeah, uh, yeah, I I mean I think Braden does look good in Dallas. Uh again, I I think Nate's more of a project, and I I feel like I feel like Cooper has accelerated this team's growth to rebuild, which not a surprise, right? He was the number one pick last year. He right looks like he's transitioning just fine into the NBA. So I think you're already trying to find players that are not projects coming into this season.

SPEAKER_13 1:07:21

Are they already further? As great as this draft is, Cooper still would have been number one in this draft. Yeah, to be clear, like as great as this draft is, Flag is still number one in this draft.

SPEAKER_17 1:07:33

Isn't that crazy to think about that? Who we just listened to, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:38

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_17 1:07:40

So I don't know. Well, uh, I am curious. If it is a Michigan guy, who would you have?

SPEAKER_13 1:07:48

Who would be your if what do they really need? If it's a if it has to be a Michigan guy, I would do Morez Johnson.

SPEAKER_15 1:07:58

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_13 1:07:59

Um, but but that's just me, just because I think Yaxel, he's too old to kind of you know I think he's too I think he's too old, but like that's that's Dusty's guy. Like they're our best friends. I think like they are actually best friends. Like if you take Yaxel, it's like, okay, it's Win now. Him, Cooper, and I think if we take a Yaxel, you gotta look at a PJ Washington, a Najee Marshall, or those people that Yaxel is ready, though, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:30

Yeah, Yaxel be. I think he'd be ready at 24. I think he'd be just fine. I get the age pacing with Cooper's so young, but yeah, I mean, you got a young vet veteran four, what do you say?

SPEAKER_17 1:08:49

So he fits in the timeline. He's in there.

SPEAKER_13 1:08:51

I listen if if it has to be a uh Michigan guy, I'm going with my guy Morez Johnson. Okay, he's been he's been my guy um since fucking December. I love him. He was in in December, he was mocked to the Lakers. I was the happiest person ever. And then everybody went back to college, his measurements came in. I think I think if he I think if he gets drafted right now, I if the Michigan Wolverine has to get drafted right now, I think it's Morez Johnson.

SPEAKER_14 1:09:21

Oh, the pick's already in.

SPEAKER_13 1:09:23

The pick is in.

SPEAKER_14 1:09:24

The pick is in. Who is it?

SPEAKER_13 1:09:29

Who is it? Oh, we gotta uh yeah, so Lei said I can see that. He also said that means KPJ is for sure gone if they do that uh Fleming's deal as well. Yeah, I totally agree with that. Pick is in. Oh man, no.

SPEAKER_14 1:09:47

Oh stop playing with me. Did they take him? Hold it, you called it. Stop playing with me. I don't got it in yet. Look at it. That's my guy, man.

SPEAKER_17 1:10:03

Whereas Johnson, hey, hey, are you okay with that? Your Arizona boy is still there.

SPEAKER_13 1:10:09

Okay. Now, if you're the Bucks, you gotta ask yourself Do you want curries? Do you want what do you want here? Yeah, yeah. So the front court of Cooper Flag, Morez Johnson, and Derek Lively. That's a good front court. That is a switch everything. That is that's strong. That is fucking strong. I love I love this pick. I'm okay with that. I I that's a good pick. That's a good pick. Especially the age of like small ball and switching everything. Morez is just his defensive motor. I mean, he's this is awesome. I do think, okay, now I'm kind of looking like is this a PJ Washington trade now? Can we see him leave tonight? Is this a I mean, as labor fans, could they package the 25th pick tonight for PJ Washington? Could they do something of that hill? Um Yeah. Now the Bucks are up. Let's talk about the Bucks here. They make the Giannis trade. Um, if they could go Braden Burry's here, I I think that's a home run. I think that's a home run drive.

SPEAKER_17 1:11:38

I'm with you. Because then my question lies is too, is like, I'm shocked that they haven't been on the phone, and maybe they are trying to get Hero traded tonight to gather another front first round pick, right? Like, yeah, but what again, cap room and stuff like that has to work, but I I would take I would take Braden.

SPEAKER_13 1:11:57

So that I mean, just from the rumor teams that were interested in Hero, Detroit has that 21st pick.

SPEAKER_17 1:12:03

Would you try to Detroit's the only one I heard that was interested, right?

SPEAKER_13 1:12:07

Right. So, like, would you like hero or like would the 21st pick and what else gets you hero is, I guess, my question. Or is it just the 21st pick? Um Dugner Robinson. Yeah, Dugan Robinson.

SPEAKER_17 1:12:21

Yeah, I mean no, I just want all picks if I'm Milwaukee.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:25

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_17 1:12:25

I just want all picks, whether that's this year and next year, even this year, skip a year, and if if they have their 20, what would that be, 2029 pick? Yeah, I just want picks, man. If Milwaukee, I I I want to be right back. I want to follow suit of what Oklahoma City did. I just want all picks. I don't want any players in these transactions. I'll draft my own.

SPEAKER_13 1:12:50

So yeah, I so yeah. So oh Lee said he wants Braden Burry. So I I I hope so. I think that'd be a great, a great piece to start.

SPEAKER_17 1:13:01

Is he the best available on your board?

SPEAKER_13 1:13:03

Yes, yeah, right now. Yeah, yeah. I I after this pick though, the draft changes again for me. Like it goes down to like tier C. Yes, tier C. I I think that the draft changes changes again. I'm I'm kind of shocked Morez went here.

SPEAKER_17 1:13:20

He was in that kind of tier C for me, but does he go there without the new transition of coaching in the Dallas front office? I honestly don't think so. You think Burris goes?

SPEAKER_13 1:13:30

Yeah, I I I really think they go Burries if if but you never know. I think, yeah, it's gonna be crazy. Um now also the board's kind of falling away. The Warriors after the the Bucks have an interesting pick. One of Braden Burries, a Daymar, and Yaxel Limberg will be available. Which way are they gonna lean to? Is it gonna be a Yaxel? Is it gonna be a um I mean a Native Man, a Daymara? Like Golden State could go a couple, is it gonna be Liberi and Fylon? It could be a do they go Cam Carr, who's my favor, who's my guy, who my second guy in this draft.

SPEAKER_17 1:14:14

Um I don't like I don't like what Golden State's doing, which is holding on to the past. Yeah, I just don't. I I think that Steve Kerr is ran his course. Steph, for all the greatness he is, and I'm a huge Steph Curry fan. I I think you should have had a different conversation with him about like, hey, Draymond, like, you know, we want to keep you, Steph. Draymond, we we we want you out. Like, we're gonna package you up. We'll take you, you know, where's your preferred destinations? Because I feel like they're kind of in that same boat of like they're just holding on to these two players for nostalgic reasons as opposed to going in a full rebuild, which I think is where they need to be, truthfully. You just gave away your youngest, you know, a good talent last year to Atlanta. So you know, it's just I I don't I don't know what Golden State will do. I truly don't. That that is a crapshoot to me. I would say just take best available.

SPEAKER_13 1:15:10

Um so what's your what's your thought process right now? You're in Milwaukee. You just traded the best buck of all time. General hasn't been 24 hours ago, you traded the honest. Now you have pick you've been had pick 10, we have pick 10 and pick 13. Do you gamble on pick 13 now that you also have that and take a for sure thing now? Or more of a for sure thing? Like, where where are you going with this? Ah, Rich Fall.

SPEAKER_17 1:15:44

I think I think you take let me give me a minute. I I I think you take I think you take Braden and you hope to circle back and take Nate at 13.

SPEAKER_13 1:16:01

I think that's a dream scenario.

SPEAKER_17 1:16:04

I don't think I don't think Nate goes to Golden State. I don't think he goes to the Thunder.

SPEAKER_13 1:16:09

Well, see, I have a mock to the Thunder just because I think they could like they don't have a guy like Nate. They don't have a 6'11 small forward.

SPEAKER_17 1:16:21

I think the Thunder take one of the Michigan boys.

SPEAKER_13 1:16:24

God, that that's such a good pick, too, because Yaxel's bigger forward on the man, or they could go that 7-3 route.

SPEAKER_17 1:16:31

I think they take one of Michigan because you have a guy that's older with experience, and Yaxel, he's 6'9 and a half or 6'10. Um can handle the ball, can pass. He's not the best scorer, but there's enough scoring on that team. Or you go, like we said a day, um, 7-3.

SPEAKER_13 1:16:47

Here we go.

SPEAKER_17 1:16:48

Who is it?

SPEAKER_13 1:16:49

Here we go. The Bucks select good pick, Braden Burries. Nice. Good pick. Okay, good pick. Good pick, Milwaukee. Okay, um, that they'll they'll be happy with Braden. I'm telling you, I think he's the Stefan Castle of this year's draft where he didn't he sacrificed his role to be a winning college team. Um, he was the number two team in the country behind Michigan. Right. I think there's a lot of untapped potential with him. I I think he's one of the second best shooter in the draft. Um and yeah, I love his pick for the for the Bucks that start to rebuild something, and you can't you can't build Rome in a day. But this is the guy that could be a foundational piece for years to come. So I'm a big fan of this pick. Now the draft gets interesting because I know the Warriors are fielding trade offers for Trey Murphy right now. And if Trey Murphy ends up a Golden State Warrior, I'm gonna be fucking pissed.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:17:56

You mean you and me both, motherfucking. I'm gonna be pissed. But hey, Brady Burries, Cat from Arizona. Um, good pick for the Bucks. I I think organization like the Bucks, you just need to hit on some singles. You don't have to swing big, you don't have to find a Giannis and a diaper. Find somebody that could start, find you the Dante Demon Chanter, like you did. Find the song makers that hit the Jabari's uh Parkers like find the small one.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:21

Him and Rowl's gonna be a nice young backcourt.

SPEAKER_13 1:18:24

Love that. Love him and Rollins together.

SPEAKER_17 1:18:29

I feel like there could be a crazy pick here.

SPEAKER_13 1:18:35

If I'm I I think a trade's coming. I I I just do I feel like we we would see something like where we if it's not Yaxel, if it's not Yaxel, a trade's definitely happening.

SPEAKER_17 1:18:47

Well, I just sometimes people overthink picks. This this has a weird Steinbach or Kareem Lopez, like we're gonna be like, what the hell?

SPEAKER_13 1:18:57

Steinbach wouldn't be bad. Kareem Lopez, I think, would be an all-time failure for the Warriors. But yeah, I understand, or I would I would understand a day, Mara. You've never had a big center behind Draymond. He's getting older. He can't go against Wendy Jokic. What happened last time? They took a big a big rebounder. Got it.

SPEAKER_17 1:19:17

He wasn't a big rebounder, though. What happened last time? They didn't use him.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:24

James Winston? Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_13 1:19:26

They didn't even took a bit two. Huh? They took a bit two. Yeah, COVID draft two. That was weird.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:37

I mean, what are we what are we doing here?

SPEAKER_17 1:19:38

I mean, they they didn't even use the guy. Exactly. Kind of like uh boy, they just traded last year. Didn't even use your best young talent. Kamingo. You just you just I'm telling you, man, the Warriors and they run a weird operation, man. They're they're too stuck on on being. I think they've got too much ties with Draymond and Steph, if you have my honest opinion. I I think you you really uh it isn't GM it in Dunleaby. Isn't he the GM?

SPEAKER_13 1:20:12

Yeah, yeah. Too much ties the Warriors though. I mean, you kind of owe it to them to just keep trying until it doesn't. I mean, Curry's a top 10 player of all time.

SPEAKER_17 1:20:22

You don't owe players nothing. No, I'm a player guy, but when they're past their prime, yeah, you only hold on for so long, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:29

There's no reason they'll be there.

SPEAKER_13 1:20:31

So your business is to win. Or but if y'all were the Warriors, y'all would trade Curry, trade the Draymond, and just get a hold and get over it.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:39

Get a hold and start now.

SPEAKER_13 1:20:41

Time is now.

SPEAKER_17 1:20:42

It's not a matter of trading them because I'm a curry guy and I'm a player first guy, but my conversation is much different with like Draymond. Draymond's debingo. Let's be honest. I think you pass your time. I don't think you can guard everybody you think you can. You get a lot of technicals, you're not a big scorer. Your passing seems to not be as good as it was.

unknown 1:21:00

No.

SPEAKER_17 1:21:01

What are we doing with you? We'll we'll pay you a cheaper amount, but we're gonna build for the future. Yeah, but I also think that started with not getting rid of Kaminga. I think you put him in your starting lineup and you play with him. I I just I just don't know what they're doing.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:16

So they they don't know, man. They should have got rid of Draymond when that pool isn't happening. Be honest, it should have been gone down. At some point, how much more can we do? You your your answers are more to your points in your production. It's ridiculous. Every day you get in tech, you get kicked out the game, you got four or five, foul. You know, just like you had two piss four. You know, it's just like what are we doing? You know, it should have been gone honestly a long time ago. I don't know why they sit around with these guys, but you know, I get you for a championship, but his production doesn't it doesn't it doesn't do nothing for you. It's just it's just fake.

SPEAKER_13 1:21:55

Specifically with this pick, would y'all lean into like would y'all use it or trade it? I guess is my question. It all depends on what you can get for it.

SPEAKER_17 1:22:05

I would trade it, but there's no trade happening now. So again, unless you have the Pelicans telling you who to pick. Yeah, but I I don't think there's a really another star you're gonna get. I I probably right here is where I think I would go with Nadam at and say we don't know what we have with Golden State, so like let's take a guy that is the best available right now. He is, you know, I I just don't think there's no player that comes in and contributes instantly.

SPEAKER_13 1:22:33

I've had Yaxel mocked here since May May 10.

SPEAKER_17 1:22:37

Yeah, I mean that they could, yeah. The roster is constructed differently, so it's the the Yaxel. I I don't think you take a day.

SPEAKER_13 1:22:45

I yeah, I don't think you take a day either. I think Yaxel too, like he's kind of well, I think his ceiling could be is like a role player plus, where you have a Jimmy Butler. Um, yeah, forget about Jimmy. So maybe you do want the older player that's a little bit more ready-made to kind of keep afloat in the regular season. So when Jimmy, because we don't know what Jimmy's gonna look like when he comes back. I mean I think Yax would be a good pick. I I like the axle here. I like the axle here from the moment, but again, it but if it's the Pelicans picking, what are the Pelicans looking at right now?

SPEAKER_03 1:23:19

Probably, I mean, you got Murray over there.

SPEAKER_13 1:23:24

You're getting rid of Trey Murphy, so you probably so if they get rid of Trey Murray, they probably look at like a Nate and May.

SPEAKER_17 1:23:30

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:35

I think he might fall.

SPEAKER_13 1:23:36

I think his black ass might fall OKC.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:38

We're we're gonna be falling.

SPEAKER_13 1:23:40

We're gonna be what? Annoyed. I will say if Yaxel doesn't go to OKC, we might see Axel fall. He might be a 17, 16, 17 range pick now. And I think more is going a let uh nine fucked up Charlotte because Charlotte was rumored to be in love, and I mean in love with um what did I pick? With um Morez. Uh 14 and 17. But at the end of the day, I do think it's Yaxel. Um, Matt's completely right. If a trade was gonna happen, it would have been announced by now. Yes. Um, I'm gonna go with Yaxel here. Um like that.

SPEAKER_17 1:24:17

They sure have shown him a lot on camera, so I mean, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_13 1:24:22

That's the safe answer. Um I I I just think if you could get a guy like Yaxel, I I don't think I think he is probably the lowest ceiling, right, than a lot of these guys, but sometimes you just you gotta do what's right by Curry, and I think that's what they do.

unknown 1:24:41

It would be interesting.

SPEAKER_17 1:24:45

Yeah, I honestly see kind of how you said I forgot what team it was. You said you were kind of nervous. Oh, for Brooklyn. This is how I feel about this pick right here, because I just don't think that I don't think Golden State knows where whether they're going up or down, and really what the future holds. Um, you've got a a mid-30s point guard, you got a mid-30s small forward, and you've got a mid-30-year-old power forward. Yeah, so there you go. Yaxel. And then you just got a 24-year-old, which to your like it, you're saying he's old for the draft, but he's still a decade younger than three of your five starters. So, like I just don't like what Golden State is building.

SPEAKER_13 1:25:30

Matthew, they'd be okay.

SPEAKER_17 1:25:31

Shout out to Yaxel, though.

SPEAKER_13 1:25:33

I think what's okay, now that I so no no real big surprises so far.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:39

Um Draymond going.

SPEAKER_13 1:25:40

I I think the biggest no, they're gonna keep Draymond. They could they I mean, this is probably the most ideal fit next to Draymond because he could play up, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_17 1:25:48

And they could he'll go to the three. Draymond stays at the four.

SPEAKER_13 1:25:52

Yeah. Um Butler at the two, then now, I mean, yeah, butler at the two. Butler will have the one.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:59

No, but I'm rocking you rolling.

SPEAKER_13 1:26:02

I another player that's out for the season, too, is Moody. Like, he had his knee. Oh, yeah, right. I forget about Moody. You know what I mean? So, like, they really need an influx of talent. Um, I like this pick for the Warriors. I I him and Curry are gonna be great. Um, I just hope he he's ready for the pressure. He was ready for the pressure in Michigan, he was ready for the pressure. I hope he I just hope he's ready for the pressure now.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:28

Is there a trade market for uh pods?

SPEAKER_13 1:26:32

Um, I would feel offers. I I'm I'm not like pods if I'm if I'm the Warriors. Like I thought it was crazy they didn't include him in the Lowry Marketing deal. Yeah, that was crazy. They love him.

SPEAKER_17 1:26:43

They love that's what I'm saying. Like, they love to play that guy. I don't think he's that good. He's garbage. I did forget, you know, they do have Christoph, which I did forget about. And you that's right. Free agent. Huh? He's a free agent. Will they bring him back? Would he come back?

SPEAKER_03 1:27:00

I don't see why not. He he's only so many destinations you can go.

SPEAKER_17 1:27:03

I mean, you have got an old ass team that they just I don't know. We'll see.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:09

I mean, if he's healthy, he can still be solid. So I think if I'm him, I'm going with the safe bed and I'll stand with the Warriors and taking a Met Vim or whatever it is, where you can get and move.

SPEAKER_17 1:27:18

I'm gonna watch his next pick and then I'm gonna have to take off for a little bit. I gotta I don't know where um but OKC.

SPEAKER_13 1:27:25

OKC, super interesting team. Um they they have they have cost like cutting, they've been doing. They traded Aaron Wiggins. They uh they didn't pick Edrick Williams team options. I wouldn't be surprised if they lose this pick and try to package 12 in 17 and pick later down the road. Um I I really wanted the Lakers to to draft up here, but that was to pick a guy like Yaxwell or to pick a guy like Morez Johnson. Now that both those guys are are gone. I mean, what are some other teams? Like if if you're if you're OKC, the Pelicans really wanted a lottery pick. Do you package 12 and 17 for a training murphy? Right?

SPEAKER_17 1:28:08

Like oh, if you're the if you're the Thunder?

SPEAKER_13 1:28:11

Yeah. All day. Yeah. I don't know if this I don't know if they need these both these picks, right? Or do they I don't know.

SPEAKER_17 1:28:21

I guess what they do here. Because they're so the thing with the Thunder is I think they're already close to being I think they're close to having already the 15 roster. I think they're gonna be a 17 players with two picks. So if you can get Trey Murphy, oh yeah, I'm done. SGA Trey Murphy, and and yeah, you're good, right? Chet. Yeah. Um, but and Hardstein as well. But no, I I think that I don't know who they take right here, to be honest with you.

SPEAKER_13 1:28:52

I again I think I still think they pick a day morrow. It gives you flexibility if Partenstein leaves if they have to cut him. Yeah, I I think that's disgusting though, too, like defensively, like in a regular season from a regular season standpoint that hey, a day morrow's coming off your bench, like he would he would start for the Lakers right now. You know what I mean? Like the Rich just get richer if they decide to oh, the pickets are already in, so we'll see.

SPEAKER_17 1:29:22

That was like you know who I think's gonna fall in this draft, and maybe I could be wrong, because I'll probably be down when he comes back. Is looking at the draft board, I'm curious to see if Christian Anderson where he fits. Like, I don't think the Thunder, right? I don't think uh Milwaukee needs him.

SPEAKER_13 1:29:44

I I had him mock to Toronto, if that's where they that's about where I see him dropping to is Toronto.

SPEAKER_17 1:29:50

Yeah. Um but it'd be interesting to see where he goes. I think that he has a I think he could drop all the way down to New York, to be honest with you.

SPEAKER_13 1:30:00

So, I mean, it was rumored all day. So for the Pelicans, right? You have Trey Murphy. You wanted a lottery pick, it doesn't look like you're gonna get one to this point. Um, what are is the price for Trey Murphy still available? Are they still trying to trade him?

SPEAKER_17 1:30:18

I think he after after the draft.

SPEAKER_13 1:30:20

You'll it it's a it's uh in between now and free agency type thing.

SPEAKER_17 1:30:25

Yeah, I just see it right here on Twitter it says that uh this is this is from NBA Central that Joe Joe Lacobs and Mike Dunley are disagreed over the draft picking for Golden State. So at least I'm not the only one confused by what their future is.

SPEAKER_13 1:30:43

So I wonder so which one was going for who?

SPEAKER_05 1:30:47

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:49

A junior college. So who doesn't so the ideal ideal fee you said was who for the Warriors again? I said, who'd you say you want the Warriors to get again, John?

SPEAKER_13 1:31:06

Oh uh the Warriors? Yeah, the Warriors I wanted them to get Yaxel.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:11

Yeah, yeah, okay. I was in Greece. I like Lax. I like him there.

SPEAKER_13 1:31:14

I like Yaxel there.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:15

So who who else would they would have pivoted to then if it wasn't Yaxel?

SPEAKER_13 1:31:18

I wouldn't like I thought Burr if Burries would have slipped, I thought Burries play, right? Um but I thought they I thought they could have went like a Liberian phylon where for a Tam Carr, like just a athletic shot creator guy that you know but the pick is in for I like Jaxel, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:43

I like Yaxel, dude. I love Yaxel.

SPEAKER_17 1:31:46

That's what I said, and then my friend in our chat decided to tell me I was wrong. What's that jaw did in a nicest way when I said yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:31:57

OKC goes with Mara. So they get their they get the big okay there we go. This was the one team I didn't want to get Mara from reasons, but I didn't think it would look good on any other team but OKC. Hey, but then he goes OKC.

SPEAKER_17 1:32:16

It's it's playing out as we as we said going into the Milwaukee's first pick, is now they have a chance to go get Nate. We said go get Brayden and then go get Nate. So we'll see. I'll I'll up.

SPEAKER_13 1:32:27

I will say if Nate isn't picked here, I I don't know when Nate gets picked up. I don't know when Nate gets picked up.

SPEAKER_17 1:32:35

If he doesn't get picked here, Charlotte.

SPEAKER_13 1:32:38

Well, they got Brandon Miller to nipple. I don't true, yeah. Four, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_17 1:32:43

If he doesn't get picked here, I I I think I could make the argument that both the Bulls or the Grizzlies take him because if you're the Bulls and you have a chance to get two 6'10 players in this draft, you go get with Caleb being very athletic, very quick, and very versatile. Nate being a little more of a project, but yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:33:03

So you so I mean you have Buzelis, Nelson, and Nate. That's that that's crazy. But like I said, I also all different type of forward, too.

SPEAKER_17 1:33:11

I think that's the special part about they're different builds, but the same height.

SPEAKER_13 1:33:15

So I guess I'll be back. Yeah, all right, later, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:19

Considering all the experience.

SPEAKER_13 1:33:21

Well, I don't know if it's uh all right. Oh, that's just me and you, brother.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:26

Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_13 1:33:28

So, what's your thoughts on a Dave Marrow? I know you didn't watch a lot, but I mean he's 7'3. Um Hartenstein insurance if needed.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:36

Oh, yeah, without a doubt, yeah. I mean, he's gonna be in a um, yeah, he's a big body. I mean, he's gonna be as long as you keep his feet underneath them and have a solid base. I think he he'd be he'll work wonders down there. I mean, we're not expecting him to go and get 15 and 10 every night, you know. Yeah, I think he'd be out there to get you know eight eight points, you know, eight rebounds, eight and eight somewhere in there, probably ten, ten. He'd be a dope double guy. He'd be very solid. Um, shade's gonna set him up, he's gonna have some easy buckets. Hopefully he can develop, you know, he can get his mid-range going. And I think I think he'd be okay.

SPEAKER_13 1:34:08

Yeah, yeah. No, I I like this pick for um OKC. The the only thing I'm a little concerned about for the rest of the league is that OKC is known for having these great developmental systems, like oh yeah. The fact that this raw big is going to OKC. Like, I wouldn't be surprised if like six, seven years from now, we're like, oh, he shoots threes now. You know what he's saying? Yeah, yeah. Oh shit. Like, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 1:34:32

I mean, at some point he's gonna have to, but I think I think he'd be okay in the system that they run, how they had Harstein playing. I mean, they he really didn't shoot no threes at all. So I think I think it'd be fine. That's the chat. Chet's the more stretch out the floor anyway. So I think it'll be it'll be good when you see them all play together. It'd be interesting what they do. Yeah, um, so you think of Harstein definstein definitely gone if they pick him, he hardstein is probably out of there.

SPEAKER_13 1:34:58

I wouldn't say he's definitely gone because but I think it's just insurance if they can't get off door, right? I I think now you have just the flexibility.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:07

Speaking of Dort, are you are you expecting him to be gone, get traded to the Lakers?

SPEAKER_13 1:35:12

So my my my biggest fear is that we trade the 25th pick for Dort.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_13 1:35:19

I I just don't want that to happen, but I mean speaking of the Lakers, um uh it was just reported by Ian Bagley that the Lakers tried reaching out to Pelicans about Eve Misi were rejected. Yeah, I mean messy. Oh, you saw that?

SPEAKER_03 1:35:34

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_13 1:35:35

Oh, I didn't see that shit.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:38

I mean, we we always tied to to players and stuff, it never comes to fruition, unless it's a big fish. Other than that, all the role players stuff we've been tied to, we haven't really got like that. That we really want it. But yeah, we'll see. So, what do you think? Uh so the Bucks, you think are going with who?

SPEAKER_13 1:35:56

I think the Bucks go Nate and Mint here. I think okay, yeah. I think he would be perfect in this type of situation where he could get a bunch of touches, he can kind of develop into what he he wants to be and go from there.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:10

That's gonna that's gonna be interesting, man. I still cannot believe they traded that man away. I knew it was gonna happen, but um Yeah, I mean the soccer. They get a haul like that with those players. I mean, you can't go wrong. I mean, you got picks, you got a young, you know, you got a young guy in where that I think can can be very good. Um, especially with Taylor Jenkins being as a coach. So see what he did with Jaron Jackson Jr. So um it's gonna it's gonna be interesting, man. I I really wish we would have got a star in Jalen Brown, but you know, I mean, as long as they gotta plan this 13 pick, I think they'd be okay. I think they'd be solid. Um you know, I think you trade if you trade hero, I mean you gotta you gotta get another you gotta get another pick this draft, I would imagine.

SPEAKER_13 1:36:52

So yeah. I mean the first pick that went all the way down to zero. So yeah. Hopefully, I mean that that that went the entirety of the clock. So I'm curious now to see if maybe I don't I don't know. Hopefully, I mean Cam Carr would be lit here, Nathanet would be really good here. Um, I really want Cam Carr to go to Chicago though. Um team, yeah, be nice.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:19

That'd be a nice spot for him.

SPEAKER_13 1:37:21

That'd be really nice for him. So but yeah, the Bucks, man. I mean, 418 days of this back and forth. Hey, I'm I want to be traded, I don't want to be traded. I mean, it's finally over.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:32

And yeah, you get you get some. I just you know, I just hope that you know that we're able to keep the downtown area you know going and keep it moving. And I think that the economy is gonna take a hit, but we'll see what happens. Yeah, we'll see. I just feel like we need a start, man. Jalen Brown would have been nice over here.

SPEAKER_12 1:37:51

Yeah, do you think with Rollins or Triple?

SPEAKER_03 1:37:54

Browns at your one with Jalen Brown to two, I think that would have been very solid.

SPEAKER_13 1:37:58

Yeah. Yeah, we're taking us in. We're in commercial break. We have been live for an hour and a half plus. So, hey, for all 41 of you guys in here, 42 now, drop a comment. Let us know if there's a hour. Any uh shocks in the draft? Like, um, what do you guys want to see? What team do you guys want to see pick uh something? Like, what's your favorite team? Um, do you guys want them to trade the pick? You want them to keep the pick? Who you want them to pick? Like, let us know. Let's have a conversation.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:34

Yeah, let's see. So we got Bulls on us. So so who you got the Lakers taking that 25th pick?

SPEAKER_13 1:38:46

I have them taking Coa Pete.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:48

Pete, okay, from uh Arizona, right?

SPEAKER_13 1:38:51

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:52

I like him. I like him.

SPEAKER_13 1:38:54

Isaiah Evans falls to us if we do keep the pick. Um, my biggest fear is that we we try to take a terrace reed junior, or yeah, terrace reed junior or Henry Bessessar. Um that's my biggest fear.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_13 1:39:13

I I I would I would love to even just trade the 25th pick for like Yafford.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:18

Yeah, that'd be nice, man. That'd be that be I'll be I'll be okay with that. Usually I'll be okay with that. Somebody Luca's familiar with um that he's got a you know presence with. I think that'd be I think that'd be very good. Then you got Hayes coming with his injury off the bench too if you keep him let Aiden go. I think that'd be you know a good one-two at the center. Yeah, you know, Hayes Hayes has been uh very surprised. I mean, um, I think it'd be even better next season.

SPEAKER_13 1:39:45

So uh Lay said, I would love to see Kareem Lopez with OKC. Yeah, no, great. Um great developmental system to be in. Um, Kareem Lopez, like I was saying before uh this all started, I was like, he cream Lopez isn't good at anything, but he's not bad at anything either. Right. So it's like harnessing these things. Everything's an 80, 80, 80 overall. If you get him, it's like okay, we're developing him. He's our 15th player on the bench. Like, go have at it, right? And right.

SPEAKER_12 1:40:21

Thank you for commenting.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:22

So are you are you watching on ESPN or are you watching on uh your local channel? I think I'm watching it on I'm on ABC, but I was on ESPN earlier to get it. I'm watching Richie Jefferson and talk right now.

SPEAKER_13 1:40:37

Oh yeah, see, I haven't I haven't seen them once. So I don't think I'm on ESPN. Okay, the pick is in. Let's see what the Bucks second pick will be.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:57

So what's they gonna do? What y'all gonna do?

SPEAKER_13 1:40:59

Nada Mint. Nada Mint. So the draft fell perfectly for the Bucks. Um, I think if you're the Bucs, you get Braden Burgers, you get Nata Mint. Um start this rebuild. Man, super nice.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:11

Nice young, nice young core right there.

SPEAKER_13 1:41:13

I love this. Um, Nada Mint. I mean, I I'm so fucking sick of seeing him be talking to Kevin Durant. He's not Kevin Durant by any means, like not even close. So so who is the ceiling? Where's the ceiling at? I I do think he I his ceiling. Who what's a tall shooter? Like tall shot creating shooter that because he is 6'11 and his growth plates are still open, like they said he could be 7'1. But kind of like a Tom Baker without the height, you know what I mean? Like, this is a guy who coming into coming into last year, uh or before the start of last year, um was gonna get um and that was supposed to be a top four pick. Okay, okay before this season, and then okay, it just didn't work out that well in Tennessee, but he's super raw prospect.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:14

I mean, he's still averaged 17 17 points at 40 percent.

SPEAKER_13 1:42:18

Still really good player.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:19

I mean, he grew up playing soccer, so I mean 19 still raw. I mean, average 17 to be 19 at 6'9, 6'9 and a half. I mean, he's he's gonna be okay.

SPEAKER_13 1:42:32

And and if if you're the Bucks, you get you just get a project now. Yeah, oh yeah, hey, take three or four years to understand how to play basketball.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:40

And we also know Taylor Jing is always good with projects. See what he did with Jaron Jackson Jr. So yeah, I think that'll work out perfect, though.

SPEAKER_13 1:42:48

If Nate could find a way to become impactful on the defensive end even more than he is now, I think we could see a huge ceiling raiser for the Bucks.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:58

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:42:59

So the Bucks have a lot of.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:01

I mean, they're they have Kuzma, they have Ware, they have Turner, they have a lot of you gotta get off Turner and um you gotta get off Turner for sure, just off the strength of what happened during the offseason. I mean, you don't you don't want the back of your locker. I mean, and he didn't really he didn't do too much more than Brooke Lopez did, you'll be honest. Yeah, it was a good it was a good gamble, but it was I mean you stretch and wave Dame for him, and you get real right after is kind of crazy. I think that's just the shit the Bucks do. Dump, you know, I think you should just kept Dame and just left it like it was, kept Giannis and wrote it out.

SPEAKER_06 1:43:37

Only you just if you decide that you know I mean and then be in first rounds after.

SPEAKER_13 1:43:42

I would say probably my uh you know when I when I first said let's fucking go. He's a big Bucks fan.

SPEAKER_12 1:43:49

Oh, yeah, he loves that they got that they got berries and you got Amy, that's a good start.

SPEAKER_13 1:43:55

So now we have Charlotte. So Charlotte wanted Morez Johnson. Yeah, um they need a forward, right? I don't know what's going on. They need a defensive player. I wouldn't be surprised if they go like Galen Swing. I wouldn't be surprised if they go more the defensive route.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:18

Um I think they need more defense though. I'm with you on that. They got enough shooting, they got enough scoring, and they line up. I think they need some more defense without a doubt.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:29

I'm trying to think.

SPEAKER_13 1:44:30

Let me see.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:31

So does Kobe White stay is Kobe White restricted free agent or a free agent?

SPEAKER_13 1:44:36

Free agent. I already have a link link already on my hand.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:57

What you pulling up?

SPEAKER_13 1:45:00

This is my board because now I'm at the point, where did I have my I wish I could see it.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:05

Is there where you can can you put him here?

SPEAKER_06 1:45:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:13

That dude was tall, man. Yeah, he looked taller than 6'9 though. Just look at that.

SPEAKER_13 1:45:18

No, he he likes 6'11.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:20

Yeah, I'm looking like he gotta be 6'11, man. Oh, dust up good. I'm good, they like that. Not down. He's gonna be okay, man. I like he's not scared to shoot three, I see.

SPEAKER_13 1:45:36

Yeah, he can shoot. I mean, that's what makes him so enticing, is he is the 6'10 shooter.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:42

He's gonna add some more muscle to him too.

SPEAKER_13 1:45:44

So I mean Brandon Miller type. I think that would be huge for him.

SPEAKER_06 1:45:50

He can continue to grow.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:52

Well, he can continue to grow, maybe even better. You never know, man. All depends on the termination, and you know, what are the seals?

SPEAKER_06 1:46:02

These are the things that are key. Oh, I'm talking about on all three levels.

SPEAKER_13 1:46:06

Yeah, so fairly status quo draft, no trades. Everybody's kind of going where we all thought they were going.

SPEAKER_05 1:46:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:46:15

Um so next on my board, I had I have um Charlotte taking Cam Carr. I don't think they'll take Cam Carr unless they really love him. Um reporting. Are you reporting anything?

SPEAKER_02 1:46:37

No, I haven't even looked. I haven't been on uh Twitter on in a while, actually.

SPEAKER_13 1:46:44

Um yeah, so I got Cam Car next on my board. Um pylon phylon hasn't been picked here, hasn't been picked yet.

SPEAKER_06 1:46:56

So hero and company squad, like how do you keep all that together?

SPEAKER_03 1:47:05

I mean, do you do you keep hero or you're the bucks? Do you keep hero? With Ammon and Burries?

SPEAKER_13 1:47:12

I mean, if if you're the Bucks, you don't have to trade hero until until the deadline. If you're deadline, yeah. See how why not see if he can average 23, 24 points, and X player, X team needs a a needs more shooting, right? Maybe his value is more there, but I think whoever team gets them needs, they have to extend them. Like the Bucks have to extend them.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:33

So right, yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:47:36

The pitch is in.

SPEAKER_06 1:47:41

I think you start looking at more depth. I'm very, very excited to see what direction they're gonna go. All right, second away.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:56

Somebody bowling, what are they bowling for?

SPEAKER_12 1:47:58

I don't have a train, yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:48:13

Oh, break tone. So they train Wait, so what is the trade? I didn't even hear.

SPEAKER_03 1:48:29

Train the 13th pick to the Bucks.

SPEAKER_13 1:48:33

Oh, yeah. Oh, just the Miami thing?

SPEAKER_03 1:48:36

Yeah, Miami thing, yeah, that's what you say. Yeah, so yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_13 1:48:40

So you just brought up the Bucks trade.

SPEAKER_03 1:48:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:48:44

Okay, that's fine. Um, Heinz Steinbach. That was the what we Yeah, that was weird. Maybe that's the status quo, but Heinz Steinbach going to Charlotte. Um, they had Diobate.

SPEAKER_03 1:48:57

So he's a husky. He was a husky, huh?

SPEAKER_13 1:48:59

Yeah, they needed more interior size. This is a great pick. For a team that wanted Sabonis. This is a great pick. Not that, not the passer, but he's just an overall good player. Um, you think he's gonna be like Frank Kaminsky? No, he won't be like I don't think it'll be like Frank Kaminsky, because he doesn't he doesn't shoot threes as well as Frank did, but he's way more of anterior friend.

SPEAKER_03 1:49:24

Okay, okay. I'm just I'm just curious, you know, they yeah, you know, Frank. I mean some side picking will be Frank.

SPEAKER_00 1:49:29

He struggles to me.

SPEAKER_13 1:49:31

But I actually used to take the back off for practice out of the state. That's cool. Hein Steinbach. So I have Hein Steinbach um 17. So Okay. Oh I have him 17 to Charlotte, so now he goes he goes to Charlotte anyway, so yeah, exactly at 14.

SPEAKER_03 1:49:50

So who they go at this at the next pick then?

SPEAKER_13 1:49:54

I don't know. They might I wonder if they take a

SPEAKER_03 1:50:00

You if you the GM, who would you pick right now at the next pick for them?

SPEAKER_13 1:50:04

I would pick it based on what they have right now.

SPEAKER_03 1:50:06

A defensive player, yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:50:08

Yeah, defensive draft. Like if Dalen Swain's still there, I would totally go Dalen Swain. Um, I think him attacking closeouts from Lamello balls passes would be super beneficial. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um they could go that route. I think they kind of need more playmaking. Yeah, outside of Lamello.

SPEAKER_03 1:50:29

Yeah. Especially don't keep Kobe White.

SPEAKER_13 1:50:32

Yeah. Oh, well, they have Kobe White, yeah. You're right. So they don't need playmaking anymore. I don't know where they could go uh they could go uh Isaiah Evans. Just get another shooter from Duke off the bench.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:42

Yeah, you can't go run another shooter, yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:50:44

I mean this offense is driven the league, so uh you got the Bulls next. I hope they take Cam Carr. I've been begging for this for for four weeks. I he's my dream scenario to have the starting lineup be Josh Giddy, Cam Carr, Mathias, Guzales, Wilson, and now Claxon.

SPEAKER_03 1:51:05

Man, that's gonna be that's gonna be nice in Chicago, man. I think if the Bulls could be nice, that's gonna be a nice little roster to play with.

SPEAKER_13 1:51:12

And and I mean, if you're the Bulls, you haven't had much to root for. You know what I mean? Yeah, true, yeah. That would be an awesome team to watch. I think they're a good league pass team. And it's also a really, really fun summer league team.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:26

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:51:29

That is the ball in Germany. I just can't believe OKC has two picks in the first round.

SPEAKER_03 1:51:36

I mean, that's that's what you do when you're great, you know, when you're great as he is. I mean, you stockpile him, and you know it's working out for him. So you know, it looks like teams are trying to um, you know, um embody what he's doing, and we'll see if they can you know keep up with him. It seems like he's always a step ahead of everybody else.

SPEAKER_13 1:51:57

Yeah, so we 13 picks in who do you got winning 14? Who do you got winning draft night so far? What are you I mean besides the top four? Because all those teams are winners, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:52:10

Like it all it all depends on. I think I all depends on who the Bulls pick here.

SPEAKER_13 1:52:14

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:52:15

I think the Bulls are looking looking real good. I think they're uh in the East with all these injuries and people coming back, and I think they can really do something um they can put together this next pick here. I think they'll be okay in the east. They'd be fighting playing again, but I think they'd be a nice younger scientist to root for. So yeah. Shout out to Dre, his uh his Bulls over there. Um we'll see what they do. I think the Bulls are looking promising though. I like what the Bulls are doing.

SPEAKER_13 1:52:41

I love what the Bucks have done tonight.

SPEAKER_03 1:52:43

Yep, I was gonna say the Bucks are looking good, um, especially fresh off of Giannis trade. I mean, to come with those two players to put them together with with Hero and you know, where's another you know, double double guy? Um I honestly think um I think where's gonna be very good over there.

SPEAKER_12 1:53:00

Me too.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:01

Um, I think where's good. He's he's hit that was a very good haul. Um, that was just awesome what they did. I was very surprised. I still want to start, but I think what they're doing now with these picks, and you know, I think they I think they got a vision, and I think they're gonna work out Wills too. So we'll see.

SPEAKER_13 1:53:19

I mean, if you're the bulls here, you might not take Cam Carr, right? But like Leverion Bylon's still out there. I know his big thing was he's a little bit skinnier guard, but he's an amazing shot creator, and he stayed the extra year.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:32

I think they need some defense. What are they doing? They need some defense. They need they need a defense. I they gotta have some defense somewhere.

SPEAKER_05 1:53:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:39

Unless you go get some uh you know, some lower vet minimum country, whatever you can find in the market, I guess.

SPEAKER_13 1:53:44

But yeah, I mean they most of their tax based yesterday on Plaxin, but they still have around 30. I think I got 31 million left. Right, right. So I mean, if you're the bullshit, if you could get another, if you can get a guard and maybe you can start listening on some Josh Giddy options, right? Maybe Phoenix or Houston likes Giddy and need a guard, yeah. Yeah, so you take a guard here and you hope for the best, but I wouldn't be set on keeping Giddy or even Claxton, right? I think if the right team came around for Claxton, I would I wouldn't make him my like, oh, I need this player for the next.

SPEAKER_03 1:54:20

Yeah, no, no. I mean he's what is what is how old is Claxton, what, 2028? Like 26 or something like that. So six and seven, so yeah, yeah. So I mean you got these young core coming in with I mean he really don't fit the yeah, the timeline. Yeah, the timeline, I guess.

SPEAKER_13 1:54:36

They're not wrong, but so you look around too, like as a Lakers fan, like I thought Aiden would have been a good bulls pickup, right? Yeah. Yeah, without a doubt. If you're Aiden, are you looking around? You're like, oh, should I oh, I guess the Nets don't have a center now, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:54:52

So maybe Yeah, I mean he'd go over there with Drew is Randall, but I mean, do you want to see that as who's with Michael Porter Jr. I don't like the nasty yeah, true enough. True enough, but that's nasty.

SPEAKER_12 1:55:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:55:02

But like the Nets need a center now.

SPEAKER_03 1:55:04

No, they do, they do, without a doubt. They definitely need a center, but I mean it's gonna be some buyout market at some point during the season. So I mean we'll we'll see. I mean, we'll it's still not done, you know.

SPEAKER_13 1:55:14

Yeah, I mean, yeah, we have so much time until game one. It's just crazy how fast the like the finals end, because then we go to the draft, and then for agency right at the end, summer league, and then yeah, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:55:27

I'm gonna I'm gonna watch a lot of summer league. It's gonna be interesting.

SPEAKER_13 1:55:32

Yeah, and we're halfway through the first round, still no trade. That's a fucking still no trade trade trade trade. Yeah, still no trade.

SPEAKER_03 1:55:38

Yeah, I mean, but I'm I'm shocked.

SPEAKER_13 1:55:39

I'm actually shocked.

SPEAKER_03 1:55:41

Are you? I mean, how shocked could you be? I mean, it wouldn't allow teams of room to have a lot of trade.

SPEAKER_13 1:55:45

Well, I I just thought the Clippers might have, I thought Atlanta might have, and I thought the Mavericks might have traded back. The fact that none of that's happened.

SPEAKER_03 1:55:53

Yeah, I mean, what would the Clippers trade and get what? Trade down?

SPEAKER_13 1:55:56

I don't know. I I just thought maybe they try to get Jalen Brown out. But the pick is in for the Bulls. 15 pick.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:05

Okay, who is it?

unknown 1:56:07

Six-year-old ABC for the second time.

SPEAKER_13 1:56:13

Dalen Swain. That's a good pick.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:15

You said that, okay.

SPEAKER_13 1:56:16

That's a good pick. But I thought that's a good pick. I like Dalen Swain a lot. Um, my guy Ronnie, he's a huge Bulls fan. Um now you get Dalen Swain. He's a versatile guard. His defense was so good his first two years in Texas, and he can attack. Um, like a motherfucker. But Dalen Swain's a great pickup for the Bulls team, like you said, needed defense, right? Yeah. And so now they they get that extra defender. You can plug him right next to Josh Giddy.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:47

That's gonna be good. That's gonna be a good team, man. Josh Giddy, they're gonna be running gun, man. Running gun, pacing man. Mattel's attacking the rim, getting dunks off. It's gonna be a nice. Yep, Tiago, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I like what he did with um taking over Chauncey and his gambling wools. Um, you know, I think it was an insult for them not to give him an actual contract. I think it was kind of ridiculous. Um, I mean, seeing what he did in the midst of you know all the turmoil and um distraction, I think he did a great job turning around. I think if Dame was healthy, I think they would have done a little better than what they did, honestly. Um, I mean they probably would have won a couple games, but they wouldn't have won the series, but they would they would have pushed it. They would have they would have gave it okay to see a little fight uh with a healthy Dame and you know um you know more time, but uh I think Switzer is gonna be do do good do good over here. I think it's gonna be just fine. I like what he did with Portland. So I think it's a good spot to go. Um he gets his money, gets paid, it gets a nice young team you can develop and work around. It gives him some time to stick around. Um, it's not a spot where he's gonna be going the next year, they suck, you know. So I think it's gonna be a good starting spot where he can, you know, start our rookie as a coach and you know do good things.

SPEAKER_13 1:58:02

Yeah, I mean the board, LeBarian Fylon's still on the board. Um, I think if you're Memphis here trading Ja.

SPEAKER_03 1:58:10

But where do you see Jock going? I just don't see a team that that needs a John Morant that can't shoot, don't space the fool well. You know, he's a great player, don't get me wrong, when he's healthy, but I mean, what team do you think he would go to? I don't see it.

SPEAKER_13 1:58:24

I think that bridge is so broken, like it's not preparable. I wouldn't be surprised if they can't find anything, it's just a weighted stretch.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:34

Yeah, I think so too.

SPEAKER_13 1:58:41

I mean, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 1:58:44

I thought I was you thought the buffs would make a play for him, though, seeing that Tilly Jenkins was a coach, but yeah. I mean, you never know.

SPEAKER_13 1:58:51

He could play right next to Burgers.

SPEAKER_03 1:58:53

Yeah, get rid of Rollins, trade Rollins, send him out to Memphis and wherever else, and make it work. I guess I guess you could, but yeah, I just don't see it on a team that really just like you need a guiding that'd be a starter you can get that put right in the seats. People come see Johnny Dame Milwaukee, without a doubt. Um, but yeah, I don't know, I don't really see a spot that he'd be great at.

SPEAKER_05 1:59:15

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:59:15

Unless he worked hard as offseason, he'd come in with a jump shot, and I'd be very surprised, but I don't know. I don't think so.

SPEAKER_13 1:59:23

Yeah, I mean it's just crazy that we're this far in the draft. Leveran phylon still not drafted. Um better when your mom's gonna be.

SPEAKER_03 1:59:34

I I had them a lot higher than but every year there's always a player that slides, you know, there's always that player that slides that you thought were gonna be you know top 10 or like that, and they just you know slide for a reason. I don't know if the exit, you know, the interviews, or you know, maybe it's what it was, but you know, it happens, man. You know, it's gonna be somebody. We'll see what Memphis does here.

SPEAKER_13 1:59:55

I think I think Memphis oh okay she gets Cam Car, I'm gonna be pigs.

SPEAKER_03 2:00:02

Man, that would be crazy. Oh kids they up they up next, that's right. Damn. Damn it. The rich get richer, man, they keep getting richer.

SPEAKER_13 2:00:16

Yeah, but I mean I I do like pylon here for Memphis. If it's if it's not pylon, I think they should take a guard. Um, get somebody that could get uh the ball. Um get somebody that could get um eating the ball. They have Wells, they have um Coward. Um they they have a decent young board. They have DC food over there still. He opted in the I I do think you have to go guard here. I think how that new coach plays, they want to do pace and space and just have a bunch of tired legs running gun. Um, I wouldn't mind Cam Carr here. Please um I was the one.

SPEAKER_03 2:01:01

But who's the coach again?

SPEAKER_13 2:01:04

I some guy from overseas, I forget his name. Okay.

SPEAKER_06 2:01:07

He was the interest for last time we see only two other Carolina kids that go to Chicago in the first round. OK White and Michael Jordan. When you hear that, what comes to your mind? That's exciting, you know. I got some good shoes for the film, but I feel like I can do it, so I'm just ready to go.

SPEAKER_13 2:01:27

Well, can we keep this a little bit? Um, they got AJ talking right now. AJ the Bonsa.

SPEAKER_03 2:01:40

Okay, I'm watching right now. I'm watching on uh ABC. They got uh Boozer up there and uh the bulls pick.

SPEAKER_12 2:01:49

Okay, no, yeah, Malika, Tim Legler.

SPEAKER_03 2:01:55

Yeah, I was watching that. I switched over to uh ABC.

SPEAKER_12 2:01:58

I thought it'd be faster, but I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 2:02:00

Maybe because I'm watching on my TV, it's probably hot.

SPEAKER_13 2:02:03

But pick is in. I don't see Adam Silver yet, but this is a big pick for Memphis.

SPEAKER_03 2:02:08

Um like the draft when we do football, man. It's we've been on here for two hours and we're gonna have the 16 pick. Yeah.

unknown 2:02:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 2:02:20

Yeah. Thank God the draft's two nights now.

SPEAKER_03 2:02:24

Yeah, but I mean, come on. I mean, you don't know who you want by now. I mean, geez.

SPEAKER_13 2:02:28

Breaking news. Memphis is trading number 16 for Benedict Sturts. Wow. To Oklahoma City Thunder for two second round picks.

unknown 2:02:38

Uh, very sooner.

SPEAKER_03 2:02:39

Oh, for the big no.

SPEAKER_13 2:02:42

The guy that just got drafted, he's going to OKC.

SPEAKER_03 2:02:45

Yeah, no, Benedict.

SPEAKER_13 2:02:47

For two seconds. Why would they give up? That's it? They gave up a first round pick for two seconds? No, there gotta be more to that, right? That doesn't make sense. They traded the pick they got right now to OKC. For two second rounds? Not even a future burger?

SPEAKER_01 2:03:18

Yeah, I'm confused.

SPEAKER_13 2:03:19

Why would they do that?

SPEAKER_03 2:03:25

I don't I still don't even see a trade. I don't even see a trade on my screen.

SPEAKER_01 2:03:29

Why would they do that?

SPEAKER_13 2:03:31

Now I don't know. And they didn't get anything? They didn't get like an Isaiah Joe or Where do you see this trade at? I just sent it. Interesting. So I had Bennett Sturts, um I had Bennett Sturts at 23, so that shifts my board even more. Dang. So the fact that Bennett Sturts that OKC liked Bennett Sturts that much, I mean, I hate to say it, but Nikola Topic, that hey, he had the ball cancer, he had all those injuries coming in. He's not out of there, but they've they've lost some bait in him, and you got the best pick and roll shooter in the draft. Um God, OKC knows what they're doing. And I just hate that. I mean, why they why did they only take so my whole thing is the 16th pick in this year's draft was worth only two seconds? That's the only thing I'm confused about.

SPEAKER_03 2:04:27

Yeah, unless they unless they got some else in it works.

SPEAKER_13 2:04:33

Oh, unless they traded the 17th pick too. Right? They could have traded 17th and two seconds.

SPEAKER_03 2:04:47

I don't see it.

SPEAKER_13 2:04:48

I think that's what it is. That has to be it.

SPEAKER_03 2:04:52

I don't even see it though. They're not even talking about on the coverage I'm watching though.

SPEAKER_06 2:04:58

People can tell me what very fast so like you go in and see it.

SPEAKER_03 2:05:01

Is that on ESPN?

unknown 2:05:02

I'm gonna pass it on to Lisa.

SPEAKER_03 2:05:04

I see what you're talking about, but what are they not talking about?

SPEAKER_07 2:05:11

Okay, I see you got the team that's always been uh a big part of your wait.

SPEAKER_13 2:05:15

So the OKC include the 17?

SPEAKER_06 2:05:18

Oh getting to this one. First off, I've already got um he's gonna be a platform, and I just want to use it for him for uh the rest of my career. And uh being around my family that way, um every step of the way, just how is that like what is that important to you and how is that impact in your pain before?

SPEAKER_03 2:05:45

No, it just says two step around pick for it.

unknown 2:05:47

Like you hear about me as a person and uh he just made me.

SPEAKER_13 2:05:50

Oh, so set so OKC. Okay, so OKC is getting uh the reason why I'm here today. And really quickly Memphis is getting the 17th pick and two seconds.

SPEAKER_08 2:06:01

How much more can you charge now if your brother is a person?

SPEAKER_13 2:06:06

Uh that's a great question. That's what they just said on the thing on the leakers channel. But I like Sturts, man. I'm a huge fan of Sturts, he's a great shooter. Um his court vision is amazing for interesting. OKC wanted Sturts that badly. I mean, they couldn't use all their picks anyway, so they just flip one guys Memphis gets you know probably the same guy they were gonna get. Um, I I'd be shocked if they still didn't go like phylon or uh Ubuka Corey here. But part of my derby they they just switch one spot and they get two seconds as well.

SPEAKER_06 2:06:50

No wonder was AU or my as well somewhere, or we're gonna try and foreign for a random like we have a second.

SPEAKER_13 2:06:58

But at least we we had one trade tonight and it was that.

SPEAKER_09 2:07:01

So at one time, but I still have a bowl to pick one of my eight o'clock games.

SPEAKER_13 2:07:06

Bro, I do not want the lakers things to a kick.

SPEAKER_02 2:07:10

No, I still have a problem with the chair.

SPEAKER_13 2:07:24

She helped me because I first line the play, so yeah, that's a huge player for Ben for Benedict Sturgs that he's a great shooter. I thought he would have been good for as a backup for Denver behind Jamal Murray. Add him mock to Toronto. I thought he would have been great instead of Emmanuel quickly.

SPEAKER_06 2:07:47

Um there, I think yeah, but um, I mean, you know, we're playing together everyone together, you all gonna have that relationship. I mean, it's like a very popular. Okay, we got a moment here. I have to come over because we're not gonna get that to RJ.

SPEAKER_03 2:08:11

Caleb Wilson. Caleb Williams of Chicago, okay. I like it, I like it, I like it. Star in NBA and star in football. Okay.

SPEAKER_13 2:08:23

So if you're Memphis here, would you rather a bucay, cam car, pylon? Where are you leaning here?

SPEAKER_03 2:08:33

Probably, probably, probably somebody's probably a score. So probably I'll probably go with Cam. I'll probably go a car.

SPEAKER_06 2:08:43

So hey, for fans are collecting at home, exerted in a random.

SPEAKER_03 2:08:49

So what do you got? Toronto getting right now.

SPEAKER_13 2:08:52

I have Toronto getting a buco of quarry.

SPEAKER_03 2:08:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 2:09:02

Oh wow. You guys do not get your NBA.

SPEAKER_03 2:09:08

This is gonna be interesting. I'm ready for the season start already.

SPEAKER_02 2:09:14

Let's start the season.

SPEAKER_13 2:09:26

Roman has that pick from Minnesota now from that trade last year. Yeah, but they traded there first yesterday.

SPEAKER_06 2:09:52

This pick of course talked about the trade, and we thought a pick was going on Memphis. This pick is actually now.

SPEAKER_12 2:10:03

Oh, another trade.

SPEAKER_06 2:10:06

Memphis is on the cloud right now.

SPEAKER_13 2:10:07

Another trade. Grizzlies are trading the pick from number 40 from number 17 to number 21 to Detroit. Detroit is now on the pick is picking right now. And if Detroit takes Abuka Corey. So Detroit feels like this guy can be. I mean, I was high on him um coming into the year. He was mocked in the high 40s.

SPEAKER_09 2:10:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_12 2:10:32

Um Detroit.

SPEAKER_03 2:10:41

Him and him and uh him and uh Woodcom is gonna be real good together.

SPEAKER_13 2:10:46

Yeah, so that that that was, I mean, Detroit was a team I thought could have been Isaiah Evans team. So that's one less team that okay.

SPEAKER_03 2:10:55

K got a nice young running mate.

unknown 2:10:58

This is a sleeper on the first round they need to draft.

SPEAKER_09 2:11:02

That's what they said.

SPEAKER_13 2:11:03

That's how they needed playmaking. They need a playmaking off the bench. This is this is a good bit. So it's like a seven like five wingspan. It's like six four.

SPEAKER_03 2:11:24

They're saying six or six one, six. What do you have? Uh yeah. I'm good with that. He's real good.

SPEAKER_06 2:11:44

And he delivered. I want to do it without training this year.

SPEAKER_13 2:11:48

Now, Charlotte's uh now for Charlotte. I don't know. You don't need a guard here for Charlotte. No, we took Einstein Bob. You take Isaiah Edward. For the shooting. Do you take Cam Carr? I still like Cam Carr here. As a just an athletic guy, Phylon's still on the board, Karim Lopez. They could take more of a project than Kristen Knatt Jr.

SPEAKER_06 2:12:14

What do we like with a score? This guy's the new Aaron. Yeah. But this is a great pick. This is going to be fun to watch. Both parents and Nigerian in the group, alumni of Harvard University, and LinkedIn.

SPEAKER_13 2:12:28

Ripley's now have five second round picks from going from 16 to 21 in the draft. Well, not second rounds from this draft. Oh, next up, you're looking at ODF.

SPEAKER_08 2:12:47

What was harder?

SPEAKER_13 2:12:56

So, yeah, we got some trades now. I'm hoping the Lakers trade that pick.

SPEAKER_03 2:13:03

Man, they gotta make they gotta make something happen, man. Rob getting it.

SPEAKER_13 2:13:06

If it's not Coba P um or Isaiah Evans, I want them to trade it. Also, I think Denver's gonna attach the 26th pick. I think they're gonna salary dump somebody tonight. Who's from Braun, Cam Johnson?

SPEAKER_03 2:13:22

It's probably gonna be Braun, man. I think Braun's gonna be out. I mean, they give me basically nothing. I mean, if it's me, I'm getting rid of him and keeping Cam.

SPEAKER_13 2:13:34

Yeah, I would keep Cam too. And because I like the idea of having Cam, Peyton Watson, Aaron Gordon, and still team.

SPEAKER_03 2:13:42

You can work with that. I just don't see how Christian Brown sits. I mean, he's not doing nothing that no one else can do at you know whatever pick they get.

SPEAKER_13 2:13:49

So I think what's so funny too is that the Denver doesn't have to trade the pick or salary dump. They just have to pay the tax for a year. They're just on the street.

SPEAKER_02 2:13:59

Oh, okay. Yeah, so free.

SPEAKER_03 2:14:13

So we got San Antonio. Who's falling to San Antonio at 20?

SPEAKER_13 2:14:17

We haven't said much about them. I have San Antonio right now taking Jading uh Quinton from Kentucky.

SPEAKER_03 2:14:26

Okay, Kentucky guard.

SPEAKER_13 2:14:27

Yeah, uh no, big man. Big man, okay. He's literally Rob Williams with the same injury concerns, just I think that's the team for him that could take him and just be like, okay, we don't need him to be good this year or next year. He can develop, we have enough bigs. Um, if if it's not him, I do like the idea of them taking like uh I mean if a guard's there, it wouldn't be interesting if a guard's still there, like like phylon.

SPEAKER_03 2:14:59

Yeah, but you what I don't think either the guards.

SPEAKER_13 2:15:02

No, you need a four or five somewhere nearly good for them too. I think just a little bit more size and interior presence. Um, Zubi edge of he's a high motor guy. I think he would be really good off the bench for them. But they yeah, they're they're kind of a weird team. Like they they need a four, but they need one that can shoot still, and uh Bryant's more of a three. I don't think he's a four, so no, yeah, he definitely a three.

SPEAKER_03 2:15:30

He's kind of under sided to be the four to be a four man.

SPEAKER_08 2:15:33

Yeah, yes, but not yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_13 2:15:42

Thank you guys for all joining in right now. Um we're we've been live for two hours. Comment, comment something. How's your team drafting tonight so far?

SPEAKER_03 2:15:52

How's who won the draft so far in the first 16 uh picks here?

SPEAKER_01 2:15:58

Yeah. Let's know your thoughts.

SPEAKER_03 2:16:00

There's some multiple teams that had some picks. Um, 18-year-old field content.

SPEAKER_13 2:16:06

Now we got Charlotte. Charlotte's up. I'm curious to where see how where Charlotte goes here. Um what do I expect? I had him going Dalen Swain, he's gone. Cam Carr is still available. Do you go uh Leverian pylon? Because you're not sure if you want to bring back Phil B White. I I don't know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 2:16:27

Right comfort.

SPEAKER_10 2:16:53

No trailer, nothing.

SPEAKER_06 2:17:02

And the pick's in earlier 21st of all.

SPEAKER_13 2:17:08

Chris Anderson Jr. Jr., I love this pick. Is that is that uh Chris Anderson's son? From Texas Tech, yes.

SPEAKER_03 2:17:18

Not Birdman, right?

SPEAKER_13 2:17:22

Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no. Okay, okay, okay. I was like, well, okay. No, no, no. I I love this pick for Charlotte. I I think he's one of the best shooters in the draft. German guy. Um he can play off LaMelo, he can play with LaMelo. I like to I like this pick. I can't believe Cam, I can't believe we're here. Cam Carr might fall to Toronto. If Cam Carr goes to San Antonio, I'll be fucking pissed.

SPEAKER_03 2:17:48

What if he slid past them? You think he falls to Lakers?

SPEAKER_13 2:17:52

If he Sliz has to look if he sliz has he could, he could go to the Lakers. I mean, I couldn't see I couldn't see him going past the Knicks. But he could. I yeah, he could. He very if we can get Cam Carr, it's a home run. It's fucking slam dunk. Um we'll see. So who has who has picked 21 now? Is it Memphis? Because they traded with Detroit, right?

SPEAKER_03 2:18:24

Uh yeah, because Detroit was 21.

SPEAKER_13 2:18:28

Yeah, yeah. So Christian Anderson goes 6'1, 180. One of the best shooters in this draft. Um that was a pickup for Charlotte. I just want to see. Yeah. I mean, there's a catch and shoot opportunities. I love it for them. Steinbeck and Anderson. Okay. That's a fun summer league team. That's a fun summer league team for Sherman. They're gonna be fighting. Okay, the the board's unfolding a little bit different. I'm curious to see if more people fall. Um, I wonder if this is a thing where the Lakers could trade up. If they're like if Cam Carr is there at 20, I would call the Spurs. Hey, you don't need you know what I mean? We'll give you a a future second or something like switch us at 25 because Call of Pete will probably be there. You can get a big yeah, true, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:19:29

Yeah.

unknown 2:19:31

I think all we've got.

SPEAKER_12 2:19:33

Oh, Matt's back.

SPEAKER_02 2:19:35

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 2:19:41

I don't think you want to draw and fix it on your screen. I hate them too. You gotta fix that. You gotta fix that to bad. You gotta fix that still, Matthew. You might do it.

SPEAKER_15 2:19:55

There we go. We're gonna crystal and just call that we'll fit.

SPEAKER_13 2:20:03

I have the point, but I don't like it fixed up.

SPEAKER_17 2:20:07

What's wrong with my two screens at the sport? That's perfect. I get I get the watch watch sports up and I play two cake, and they're perfectly centered. It looks like they're all, but they're perfectly lined up.

SPEAKER_01 2:20:22

I mean every single day.

SPEAKER_10 2:20:27

Oh, and the parts all of them.

SPEAKER_04 2:20:30

Oh, I don't like that. Oh, what's that name?

SPEAKER_16 2:20:37

Yeah. Who else? Who else went while I'm gone? Steinbach went to Washington or went to all we're on ABC. Charlotte. Milwaukee got naked. All right.

SPEAKER_05 2:20:52

I'm walking back.

SPEAKER_10 2:20:55

I'm looking back off like that.

SPEAKER_17 2:21:50

I wouldn't I wouldn't be upset seeing can my car go to San Antonio.

SPEAKER_05 2:22:00

I hope you like it.

SPEAKER_13 2:22:09

I can't believe five on the board. I think Toronto was five on here.

SPEAKER_03 2:22:13

Alright, so I'll be back. I may it may not be back. Okay. I appreciate you having me on. Thank you all for joining. I can't hear him. Okay, he's breaking up. Alright, look.

SPEAKER_13 2:22:29

Yeah, so by long. I think he goes to I think he goes to Toronto. Can you hear me?

SPEAKER_17 2:22:40

Be barely.

SPEAKER_01 2:22:42

Really?

SPEAKER_17 2:22:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:22:44

Oh shit. How about now?

SPEAKER_17 2:22:50

Here, let me let me turn mine up a little bit because I'm still pretty hot up.

SPEAKER_13 2:22:55

Chat, can you hear me? Somebody mic check me.

SPEAKER_17 2:22:59

There you go. It's it's not bad now, I can hear you.

SPEAKER_13 2:23:03

Um phylon, I think going to I think him going to Toronto if it's that if that's the pick is a good pick. Um, they needed a guard. I had pylon in my top ten. The fact that he's still here at twenty at nineteen things.

unknown 2:23:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_13 2:23:20

But I do understand the concerns because he is only 170 pounds. He's super skinny. But uh pick his name. 19.

SPEAKER_04 2:23:34

At his age. How old is uh oh wow!

SPEAKER_13 2:23:40

That's a jump. Oh, Alan Graves. Oh okay. I had Alan Graves as a 29th on my board. Okay.

SPEAKER_17 2:23:52

Damn, that was uh So the board shifting.

SPEAKER_13 2:23:57

The board shifting. I like it. I like this.

SPEAKER_17 2:24:00

I like this.

SPEAKER_13 2:24:00

This is for the Lakers. I like this a lot.

SPEAKER_17 2:24:04

So you are wanting Cam Carr to drop all the way down to 25th?

SPEAKER_13 2:24:09

If Cam Carr or Isaiah Evans can be at 25th, I'll be the happiest person. I'll be so fucking happy if Isaiah Evans is at 25th.

SPEAKER_17 2:24:20

Over over Isaiah Evans?

SPEAKER_13 2:24:23

Cam Carr?

SPEAKER_17 2:24:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 2:24:25

Yes.

SPEAKER_17 2:24:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_13 2:24:27

Cam Carr has one of the longest wingspans in this draft and the highest vertical. He can shoot threes, he can play deep end. He's Moses Moody with more athleticism and a better shot. I would love that. They just need some rotational. I can't believe Alan Grace to Toronto, especially taking Colin Murray Boyles. They have turtles. Like, that's just a lot of sock. Interesting.

SPEAKER_11 2:25:04

Interesting pig.

SPEAKER_13 2:25:07

I'm kind of shocked at that. That's the big that's the first big, big surprise of the draft.

SPEAKER_16 2:25:12

I was gonna say that's that's probably the biggest biggest upset of the draft so far.

SPEAKER_13 2:25:20

And there's no trade reported with it. Like that's the pig. I mean he's picking pop, I get it. And he's not Alan. Alan Graves, huh? He's like what, six, seven and a half.

SPEAKER_17 2:25:40

Alan Gri Alan Graves?

SPEAKER_01 2:25:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_17 2:25:43

They got him listed as 6'9, 225.

SPEAKER_01 2:25:46

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_13 2:25:47

Damn. That would have been a good Aaron Gordon backup, honestly.

SPEAKER_17 2:25:53

I don't know how many he shot, but they 41% from the three-point line last year.

SPEAKER_13 2:25:58

Yeah, shooting was really good. I was I'm just I thought the only reason why he fell this far is because his athleticism is like super abysmal for like a player of his archetype, but you know something I don't, and it's another kid from Santa Clara, so yeah, Pajenski, Jay Will, Steve Nash.

SPEAKER_15 2:26:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 2:26:17

So all those players are are players, so I can't believe Pylon is still on the board.

SPEAKER_17 2:26:26

Man, this is a pick right here. I'm curious.

SPEAKER_13 2:26:28

This this do they go Koa P? Do they go Kristen Knight Jr.? I don't I don't know.

SPEAKER_16 2:26:38

I'm curious, man.

SPEAKER_13 2:26:40

I I do you go for a four? Or do you try to bolster your bench and get some more shooting and like an Isaiah Evansy? Or phylon? Like, do they need another guard like that?

SPEAKER_17 2:26:55

I think phylon makes a lot of sense, but I also think I also think uh yeah, I would say guard play makes uh I don't know, I think Chris Sinak makes a lot of sense as well, man. I uh I think you can't go wrong.

SPEAKER_13 2:27:12

I think he's more of a project.

SPEAKER_17 2:27:14

Yeah, but yeah, but at 6'11, he you can you when you got Wimby, man, that's a lot of protection.

SPEAKER_13 2:27:21

Oh my god, if the Lakers take phylon, I'm ending the street.

SPEAKER_17 2:27:27

I don't know if he's gonna drop five more spots. No, I don't want him to be a- Oh, you no, you want Cam Carr.

SPEAKER_13 2:27:34

Yes. Damn, there were 62 and 20. Damn. I forgot they wanted 62. I wonder, yeah, I wonder where they go, or maybe they go true backup big here and go for like a terrorist rejoin. Um can't they go jading uh Quain and tier? They could take a gamble on a big added injury. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_17 2:28:03

Yeah. God I cannot believe the Horns took Christian Anderson.

SPEAKER_00 2:28:09

Did you see the Bulls get Dalen Swain?

SPEAKER_17 2:28:12

Huh?

SPEAKER_00 2:28:13

Did you see the Bulls get Dalen Swain?

SPEAKER_17 2:28:16

I like that.

SPEAKER_00 2:28:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_17 2:28:18

I I I told you yesterday that I I think that he he was kind of on my watchboard to see if he jumped higher than what they had him projected.

SPEAKER_13 2:28:27

If the Spurs go Kareem Lopez here, that's really good. But I I would hate that bitch.

SPEAKER_17 2:28:35

I just don't know anything about that kid. Like, I I I know nothing about him.

SPEAKER_13 2:28:39

I'm telling you, a master of none. A master of none. Oh, I I think he's a project too, but I don't know. Some of these teams that get these developmental projects like this first is a great place to be at. So who has picked 23?

SPEAKER_16 2:29:07

Atlanta.

SPEAKER_13 2:29:09

I don't think Tam Car goes past Atlanta.

SPEAKER_16 2:29:16

No.

SPEAKER_13 2:29:19

But Atlanta could go big there.

SPEAKER_17 2:29:23

Man, if Atlanta if Atlanta went after uh Senec, that'd be both Houston boys going to the same team.

SPEAKER_13 2:29:33

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if they went a big there either, just because they need a they need more size. Like I love um Onek Okamu, but I don't I don't think he could be your center center. You know what I mean? I think they need a little bit more size. This is a huge take. I wonder what the spirit is going with. Chris and that? Chris, I I mean I've had Chris and that I got Chris and that twenty on my big board, so this is where I had Chris and that going.

SPEAKER_16 2:30:19

Yeah. Um makes sense.

SPEAKER_13 2:30:23

We'll see. I think he'd be I mean if his shot is really real in the defense, he doesn't have to be a great defender being surrounded by Castle, Harper, and Lindy. He just has to be okay.

SPEAKER_16 2:30:34

He has to be serviceful, yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_17 2:30:41

I think Jaden falls. Where do you have him on your board?

SPEAKER_13 2:30:47

I haven't seventeen, but I it's so hard, like if he was healthy, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_16 2:30:56

Coming back from his ACO.

SPEAKER_13 2:30:58

Like if you just played a healthy year, I don't think there's a world he's not copying. You know what I mean? I think he was that good defensive.

SPEAKER_17 2:31:09

I wonder I wonder I wonder if he lands with the Celtics.

SPEAKER_13 2:31:14

Yeah, I mean that's literally Rob Williams' project all over again.

SPEAKER_17 2:31:17

Yeah. Yeah, and that's my fear is having another Rob Williams where he's great when he's great, but when he's hurt, which is a lot, it takes Jaden Quainton, so they take they take Jaden Quainton.

SPEAKER_13 2:31:31

Um wow they took Wow. That's I mean he if he I think he he's by far the best defensive player in the draft when healthy. The only problem is when health, and I think if you're him, he doesn't need to be great right away. They have Luke Cornet for at least another year. He can get healthy, they can look at the medical. Um yeah. That I like that pick. Because he doesn't need to be great. Like if he would have if the Lakers would have drafted him, I'm like, oh shit, he needs to be good now. Yeah, he can be great whenever. Um and if you're the team like San Antonio and San Antonio, it's like, hey, let's gamble on a little bit upside right now. I can't believe phylon's still on the board. So who's next? So Memphis traded this pick back with with uh Detroit. So Memphis might have traded the pick and still might be able to get phylon, which would be crazy. What a that would be a haul because they got like seven seconds and traded back to 21 and still got their guy phylon. That would be that that'd be a really good draft night if Memphis gets pylon right now.

SPEAKER_17 2:32:50

So Detroit took 17? Uh-huh. Okay. So this is this is Memphis's pick right here?

SPEAKER_01 2:33:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_17 2:33:09

You take you take Phylon out here? I would.

SPEAKER_13 2:33:13

He's the best player on the on the board, he's the best guard available right now. I think we'll have John Moran. I wouldn't be surprised if it went at Cam Carr. I wouldn't be mad at it just because I think Cam Carr is just a better athlete and sometimes just wants a better athlete. But I think Tylon's a better scorer, so looking at the next pick, do you go big to help MB out? Billy. If if I'm Billy, I would I would look hard at Terrace Reed Jr. Because I think he's the most ready made big. I think he go like if Embiid's out, we will put that motherfucker in. Like he can play twenty minutes right now the backup center.

SPEAKER_16 2:33:56

Um Terrace Reed is good.

SPEAKER_13 2:33:58

I I I I like that. I If it went co-pete either, like move Paul George out the fourth spot, put Koba Pete next to Embiid. It's a little bit more of a gamble with this shot, but Embiid's the exact center you want to play play with if you're Code Pete coming out. And I think I think I think it was rumored too co-pete wanted to be in Philly, if I remember that correctly, but yeah, the next couple picks, so like Atlanta 2 right now. I don't know what Atlanta does. If you're Atlanta, do you go big?

SPEAKER_16 2:34:35

I feel like they should, but I feel like Atlanta just takes at this point the best available player on the on the board and moves on.

SPEAKER_13 2:34:45

What about Knicks at 24?

SPEAKER_17 2:34:48

Man, that's an interesting pick right there, because I I think that's I think they gotta go big. Huh?

SPEAKER_13 2:34:57

I think they gotta go big.

SPEAKER_17 2:34:59

Yeah, that's that's I don't know. I mean, you could also, I mean, I I think Josh Hart still got plenty of life left in the NBA, so you don't really need a four. Yeah, but I think you I think you you pass on, yeah.

SPEAKER_13 2:35:12

I think you go big, but um I only think you go big because I think you're for sure losing. I think you're for sure losing um Mitchell Robinson. Like, I wouldn't mind if they got Zuby Edripore, who's a great offensive rebounder, not as tall as Mitchell Robinson, but high motor guy off the bench. I mean Who uh Zubi Edriport from St. John's.

SPEAKER_17 2:35:39

Oh you take him over over the boy from North Carolina, Henry?

SPEAKER_13 2:35:47

I don't know.

SPEAKER_17 2:35:48

It was just offense. I mean, he's all offense.

SPEAKER_13 2:35:51

And and it'd be a different look, it'd be a great cat backup, right? Just to keep the shooting. He put on weight last season, and he's still too light to me. You know what I mean? Like he put like he stayed for his second year, put on a bunch of weight, and I still think he's super light.

SPEAKER_15 2:36:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 2:36:10

So I I don't hate that pick if I'm the Knicks. Like, if that's the way you went, I understand why. But I'd rather get more of the interior force just because they have so much shot making off the bench already.

SPEAKER_17 2:36:23

That's a big size difference, too, man. You're talking about Zuby at 6'9 to a 7, another seven-footer on your team. Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, I I don't think you can, you know, the beauty about winning a championship and having most of your roster locked up again is that you're you're adding additional pieces, picks in.

SPEAKER_13 2:36:41

I will say though, talking out loud, I think it I think there's a chance that Isaiah Evans wore Cam Cards there for the Lakers. Because I don't think Philly goes guard. I mean they could go guard, they just traded Jeremy Cain, right? But then you got Whitney Grimes, all them. I don't and I don't see Atlanta going guard.

SPEAKER_17 2:37:06

I think you have a legit chance to get Cam Carr or Isaiah Evans. I also don't think it would be against y'all's against y'all to go after Chris Sinek if y'all could land him too. You guys need a rebounding in defense.

SPEAKER_13 2:37:22

I like Chris Seneck.

SPEAKER_17 2:37:24

So, I mean, I you know.

SPEAKER_13 2:37:27

So, what were your thoughts on that Claxton trade? So it was like rumored heavily that, you know, obviously the Lakers need a center, right? Um, the Bulls basically have well the so the three teams that had cap space, Brooklyn, Bulls, and Lakers. The Lakers could have absorbed Claxton in the cap space. The Bulls ended up doing it in that trade. Do you think they have something lined up? Do you think they have an idea?

SPEAKER_17 2:37:57

Do I think that the Lakers have an idea?

SPEAKER_01 2:38:00

Yeah, who oh, the pick.

SPEAKER_17 2:38:02

I think the Lakers are Wow.

SPEAKER_13 2:38:08

Wow.

SPEAKER_17 2:38:10

Who is it?

SPEAKER_13 2:38:11

Memphis goes with Karim Lopez after drafting Cam Cam Boozer. That is That's interesting.

SPEAKER_17 2:38:21

It's a weird pick. But I don't know nothing about Lopez, so I'm not gonna knock it. Yeah, I know you said he's a kind of a yeah, not great at anything, good at everything kind of player, but that's that is that's interesting. From a geographical standpoint, he would have brought in a lot of ticket sales to the Spurs, like a lot. I mean, just because of our demographics down here. I mean, he would have uh sold them games even more.

SPEAKER_01 2:38:59

Yeah, I thought he would he could the chance he could have fallen.

SPEAKER_17 2:39:03

So that means that they'll probably try to put him at a three. Is he a decent shooter?

SPEAKER_13 2:39:07

Yeah, yeah, he's just slow, he's just so slow, he's not like he has no quick twitch at all to him.

SPEAKER_16 2:39:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 2:39:17

Um 6'8, 222.

SPEAKER_17 2:39:22

I think there's a serious chance, and maybe I'm living in the moment, but I think there's a serious chance that LeBron might try to go off back to Miami.

SPEAKER_13 2:39:30

It's so it's been rumored that that the sign-in trade with Wiggins opts out of his team his player option, sign-in trade both um LeBron and Wiggins.

SPEAKER_17 2:39:42

And then, and then I think you you I hate that fit though.

SPEAKER_16 2:39:53

I don't I don't hate that fit, huh?

SPEAKER_13 2:39:56

But I just like so Braun's just spot up shooter, though, like playing off the ball, kind of like how he was with the Lakers this year.

SPEAKER_17 2:40:03

Bam can shoot a little bit, yeah. But Giannis, but man, I think man, LeBron's got such good court awareness. I I don't hate that fit. LeBron can literally relax on defense and let them go by.

SPEAKER_13 2:40:16

I just would hate offense though.

SPEAKER_17 2:40:18

Like you if if if that's the route you go, you would have to get two absolute knockdown shooters.

SPEAKER_01 2:40:25

Like, I just don't know where they're getting those from.

SPEAKER_17 2:40:30

Pat Pat Riley does magical things. But yeah, I you would have thought that going after Nick Claxton would have, if if they knew he was available, it would have been a consideration to put your name in a hat. Um, I just think the Lakers don't don't have a outside of Luca, they they still have to worry about getting AR signed. I don't think you want DeAndre Ayton anymore. I think you worry if LeBron's gonna stay or not, which then you back up have to worry if Bronny James is gonna stay in your or like they've got so much going on. So, but still, I I think that I think Nick, being that he was available, it is shocking that they didn't at least throw an offer out there.

SPEAKER_13 2:41:13

I mean, I just I mean Luca's putting pressure on. Um, I don't I don't know the big I don't think they get Kessler, I don't think they get Jalen Duran, right?

SPEAKER_17 2:41:24

No, but that's why like right here on the 25th pick, I think they go big.

SPEAKER_13 2:41:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_17 2:41:30

I and it would probably break your heart if they passed on if they passed on any of them. Carr Evans are there and they pass on them. Oh, I'll be sick.

SPEAKER_13 2:41:40

I'll be fucking sick.

SPEAKER_17 2:41:42

Well, but where would they go? They have to play at the three, right?

SPEAKER_13 2:41:46

Car, listen, we just had no bench scoring, right? So my whole thing is hey, you could bring Cameron Carr off the bench, you could bring Isaiah Evans off the bench because I mean when Don Connect was dog connecting, he was good. Um you know what I mean? He was great. I mean, having bench scoring, and Isaiah Evans is 6'7. You know what I mean? Like, he's built like Brendan Ingram, he's one of the best shooters in this draft. I he's athletic. I think it would be it'd be pretty stupid to pass up on the guy that you need shooting around Luca. He needs shooting, like, not saying that he's a three and deep lean, but he's not a bad defender. He's pretty under he's a pretty good defender, and he can shoot himself. What about Philly here? What are your thoughts on Philly here? They could go phylon, Sanat, Cam Carr, Zubi, Terris Reed.

SPEAKER_17 2:42:40

I think you I think you go, I think you go Zanak, Zubi, or Vasar. I think you go with the big guy. I think you have to. I think you have to go big. Like, clearly, Embiid is not. I mean, he's just too hurt. I know you still need help on the guard play. Paul George is getting older, but you've already got two really good guards. Young, good guards. So, like, I think you need to have somebody when Embiid is sitting 35 to 40 games a year. You've got to have somebody big. I I would go big if I was Philly, and I that's the Philly's like the one team in the NBA that I fucking hate. Like, I hope they lose every game.

SPEAKER_13 2:43:22

I think phylon's gonna be Philadelphia. That was way too much camera time.

SPEAKER_17 2:43:27

It that's what I was noticing too, but that's that's to me a crazy fit. I mean, you're gonna be really guard heavy.

SPEAKER_13 2:43:34

Your guard, I mean your guard rotation's phylon. And then Quentin Grimes is gone, right? You don't bring back Grimes.

SPEAKER_17 2:43:40

You don't bring back Grimes, but yeah, you have you have phylon, uh Maxie, Maxie, and Bedsco, yeah. I don't like that. I'm good with it because I don't like 76ers, but I don't I don't like that. I think they needed a big guy to help solidify their hole.

SPEAKER_13 2:44:06

This is this is an interesting draft. So the first 18 17 picks were status quo, every pick since then has been a surprise to me.

SPEAKER_17 2:44:16

No, did you did you have did you have uh Swan going that early?

SPEAKER_13 2:44:22

Swain, yeah, I had Swain.

SPEAKER_17 2:44:25

Yeah, yeah. Man, kudos to you. So I think really the only surprises, right, were I mean you could probably say Johnson to Dallas.

SPEAKER_13 2:44:39

Yeah, I I would say Johnson, Anderson, and Sturt were the biggest surprises. Yeah. Like okay, here we go.

SPEAKER_17 2:44:53

Looks like it's gonna be him. He they they got that camera. They ain't very this camera guy ain't very good at keeping a secret.

SPEAKER_13 2:45:00

Yep, they take pylon. Woo!

SPEAKER_17 2:45:04

I mean, take it. Like I said, I I don't think that's the right move as an organization. I'm I'm okay with that. Good uh again, sometimes I get negative, but congratul I I am truly happy for all these guys.

SPEAKER_13 2:45:20

That's that's a holy crap. I'm gonna cry if we get holy shit. We have okay. No way, no way uh New York takes not a big, right? There's no way, right?

SPEAKER_17 2:45:37

I I don't know what New York would do. Like I said, that's the beauty about having most of your roster return and just winning a championship.

SPEAKER_13 2:45:43

You're you're um Atlanta's gonna take one of my guys here. But if I'm Atlanta here, I'm going big. I need a center, I need somebody other than O'Connor. They don't have any other center, they have Handale.

SPEAKER_17 2:46:00

I think there's three guys at Atlanta targets.

SPEAKER_13 2:46:03

So who's that?

SPEAKER_17 2:46:05

The the three I just talked about that I thought 76 is a target. Yeah, I just don't know out of those three. I I don't know which one's better.

SPEAKER_13 2:46:14

If Cam Carr or Isaiah Evans aren't picked here, I'm happy to see why uh you need a big though. I'd rather go big by committee, though. I there's not a big how'd that work for you last year? Well, I think I don't think it was committee, I think it was more just Aiden. We were hoping he'd be better. And I just rather I'd rather my center rotation look like Robert Williams, Mitchell Robinson, Jackson Hayes, then you know what I mean? I'd rather have three centers like that than not have the wing. I think wing's harder. I think Cam Carr. Oh. I didn't even see this tweet of this comment. They would call Brian every name in the book. And then you cry.

SPEAKER_17 2:47:11

Oh, I bet I bet that's when I was talking about him going to Miami. Yeah, I just don't I don't I don't like that Sixers pick. Um Alon's a good ball player, but I just I think that they've got a lot of a lot of holes in the interior. And then you you talk about the plaguing injuries that they constantly deal with um with Embiid in the paint. I just I don't like that. I think that was not a good I think Quentin Grimes does leave as well. I think you still have Andre Drummond, but he's he's basically a shell of himself as well. So that's not the not the smart play. Um but maybe they have the same the same approach that Jaw has for the Lakers is just have centers by committee. But Joel's 32, Drummond's 32. Yeah. So we'll we'll see who's got next on the board. We got Atlanta on the board. I think I think Atlanta. I don't know. I I kind of like I like uh Cam Carr here.

SPEAKER_13 2:49:15

Can you hear me?

SPEAKER_17 2:49:17

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, there we go. Uh who is your surprise player for next season?

SPEAKER_13 2:49:27

In this draft?

SPEAKER_17 2:49:28

I would assume that's what they mean is yeah, in this draft, who is your honestly feeling fun.

SPEAKER_11 2:49:39

Or Christian Anderson.

SPEAKER_17 2:49:44

You know, I'll I'll I'll give my take that way. You can look. My surprise player for this year is actually gonna be the surprise player of this draft order so far. I'm gonna go with with uh Johnson in Dallas. He's got the coach, you've got Cooper, Kyrie's coming back. And he we I don't think he was ninth on most people's boards, so that's gonna be my surprise pick for this draft. Everybody else, I think, will they look like they like the draft boards were projected and they look like they kind of fit that spot. It's really weird this year. So I'm gonna go with the surprise pick in the draft to be my surprise player, and uh I'll go with Johnson Jr.

SPEAKER_13 2:51:01

All right.

SPEAKER_17 2:51:04

So Ford, if you're listening, Ford, if you're listening, you better save me a spot on the 2K. I know you jumped off to get on 2K. I see you. Who's your surprise pick, John?

SPEAKER_13 2:51:18

Um surprise player for next season.

SPEAKER_17 2:51:21

Sorry, I misquoted player.

SPEAKER_13 2:51:23

Honestly, I'm behind Steinbach. I think I think he would be a pretty good player for a team in Charlotte that wants to play fast, um, and they needed the interior size, and I think I think it'll be a good fit over there. Okay, um, yeah, that'd be my pick. Holy what do you think Atlanta does here? You think they go Cam Carr? Just go another guard. They have Flemings. I mean, if you go Flemings and Carr, I mean, in my opinion, they win the draft.

SPEAKER_17 2:52:01

I go, I go, I go Carr or Senac. I think they're the best two available on the board, and I I think that the teammate. I think you need both. Like I said, yeah, and I said that earlier. If you take Senac, you got two Houston guys that's got the chemistry with Flemings and Senac, but I I don't think you can go wrong with Cam Carr. I really like these next three available if you're well, in my honest opinion, I think Isaiah Evans.

SPEAKER_13 2:52:23

Zubi Edge Ford.

SPEAKER_17 2:52:25

Huh?

SPEAKER_13 2:52:29

I think. I thought he was doing with the Philly. But I love that. I love that bit for him.

SPEAKER_17 2:52:40

Yeah, I'm I'm I'm there. I I think that they've got a lot of holes to uh to fill, so uh, I'm not mad at that. I I think that yeah, Philly, Philly messed up. Philly should have took a big, but it is what it is. So hey, congratulations, you're getting one of your players.

SPEAKER_13 2:52:57

It's not, it's not, they still might pass up on these motherfuckers now.

SPEAKER_17 2:53:01

It's not if they're passing up different than not having the opportunity.

SPEAKER_13 2:53:04

That's that's true, that's true.

SPEAKER_17 2:53:05

I'm assuming you're right. You you can go get mad at Palenka. Zubi.

SPEAKER_13 2:53:12

Zubi. He's a guy from St. John's, Brick Patino team. Um, super high motor, average more offensive rebounds than defensive rebounds this past season. Um super high motor has the three ball, can shoot. And we have a trade. The New York Knicks are trading with the Los Angeles Lakers 24 for 25. So the Lakers know they got somebody. Who are they trading though for? Did they salary dump somebody? Is there is it just pick for pick? That doesn't make sense, right?

SPEAKER_17 2:53:54

Can't be pick for pick. It might be a pick plus a second rounder something.

SPEAKER_13 2:53:58

We don't have a second rounder, I don't think.

SPEAKER_17 2:54:00

No, the but the Knicks would have given you guys one. Something they had to move up somehow.

SPEAKER_13 2:54:07

Why would the Knicks give us a second round? We took the higher pick.

SPEAKER_17 2:54:12

Oh, the Lakers jumped up. Excuse me. I got you now. I thought it flipped on my screen. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 2:54:20

We up right now. We up right now.

SPEAKER_17 2:54:34

You know, I saw an interesting stat to put in perspective. Jalen Brunson's the same height as Derrick Henry. Derek Henry looks like a monster, and Brunson looks tiny.

SPEAKER_13 2:54:47

So Lakers up! Lakers are up! Please! If this could be Cameron Carr or Isaiah Evans, preferably Cameron Carr, home fucking run. I had Cameron Carr in my top 13. A lot of experts have him in his top 13. Please, please be Cameron Carr or Isaiah Evans. Either way, you can't. If we go big here, I'm pissed. I'm absolutely pissed if we go big here. I'm pissed. I'll be pissed. I'm serious. I'll be fucking pissed. I'll lose my mind. We are up.

SPEAKER_17 2:55:38

We are up. Um and and Luke Luca might tell y'all to go get Sergio. Oh fuck no.

SPEAKER_13 2:55:48

Yeah, Tate said, I feel like New York getting Sanat. Yeah, Sinat is gonna be there at twenty five. Um and if if I'm the Yeah, if we could get if we could get Cameron Carr, man, that is he is the highest vertical in the draft, higher than the Monster. He has the three-point shooting, he has the one of the longest wingspans for a team that needs athletic 3 and D-ish wings. I've mocked them to Moses Moody with an extra wiggle to him. This is huge. If they can get a Cameron Carr or Isaiah Evans, like I'm a lot higher on Cameron Carr. I'm gonna be abundantly clear than Isaiah Evans. Um I had, you know, when we were talking about tier A, B, C, I had him in that C tier. I had Cam Carr marked it with the Bulls, so I'm I'm shaking right now. I I just feel like we're gonna fuck it up somehow. I feel like we are.

SPEAKER_17 2:56:51

I hope it works out for you. I I think you go big. I think you need a big more than you need another guard.

SPEAKER_13 2:57:00

But I think we need more athleticism than big. I think if I mean you were seven feet tall, I think me and you can make be a good role from you give me a lot of credit, man. And I will say, I will say this. If if they don't go big here, they must have a plan for big. Especially skipping on the big now, keeping the pick, and skipping on uh Claxton last week. They have to have something. Lucas not going for that. If we could get Cameron Carr, woo we, I'll be happy.

SPEAKER_15 2:57:33

I think you go big here.

SPEAKER_13 2:57:35

Come on, baby.

SPEAKER_17 2:57:40

Oh, they're showing him.

SPEAKER_11 2:57:44

I know I'm scared.

SPEAKER_17 2:57:46

They're showing him. You know, this cameraman hadn't been wrong tonight.

SPEAKER_13 2:57:50

Oh, I'm scared. I just can't believe Cameron Carr is here. I I would have so when before everybody went back to college, I had um Cameron Carr going to the Lakers, and then everyone went back to college. I'm like, oh, all the things are the top 13 guys. Oh shit. Yes, yes, yes, yes, let's fucking go. Okay.

SPEAKER_17 2:58:32

I can tell that that that made your night.

SPEAKER_13 2:58:35

That I'm telling you, I had him going in the first thirteen picks. Let's fucking go. Let's go. Let's go. Big leg of chat. Big leg of chat.

SPEAKER_17 2:58:54

You know, there's certain there's certain organizations too, like you know, you know, when these guys get drafted, which they're all grateful to be drafted, but there's certain organizations that make you feel special, right? Lakers, Knicks, Celtics, like you get drafted to one of those three teams, and you it's it's like you just it's a little bit different. Second hat in the combine.

SPEAKER_13 2:59:19

I just don't get why they can't give them the right hat when they get up. His teammate from Baylor Cam uh Cam Carr is even more athletic than him. He'll probably go undrafted though. Let's go. Kratos if you watching. Let's go. Cam Carr.

SPEAKER_17 2:59:44

I guess those I guess those hats are this year's hats.

SPEAKER_13 2:59:48

They're all like the he had 30 points in the combine game, six threes. Second highest vert. Wow, I can't believe he was there. I'm shocked Evans is there. So I wonder if Evans is now. I wouldn't be surprised if Evans a Boston Denver team. I wouldn't be surprised if that's like a shooting. I I'm still expecting Denver to trade this pit, but we'll see. We'll see.

SPEAKER_17 3:00:23

Man, I would be okay with Isaiah Evans.

SPEAKER_13 3:00:29

Yeah, Isaiah Evans would be huge for this update. Especially, like you have Jordan and Walsh, you have Shireman, add Hugo, add just another fucking shooter, 6'7. And Walsh is not a shooter. I mean, I I could argue Evans would be the best shooter out of all those three, right?

SPEAKER_08 3:00:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 3:01:02

And because the Lakers made that trade, we are not hard capped at the second apron. Which is huge. Because nobody wants to be in the second apron anyway, but now they can't be hardcapped at the first apron with anything they do from here on out. That's huge. That's huge. That's huge for everything they do in the offseason. They can aggregate trade still.

SPEAKER_16 3:01:31

Cash consideration, okay.

SPEAKER_17 3:01:36

Okay, well. Congratulations, man. You got your you got your guy. Now it falls to see who uh who the Knicks take.

SPEAKER_13 3:02:01

This shit's so stupid. They're talking about the Lakers as if they're that the trade didn't happen.

SPEAKER_17 3:02:08

I know I don't it's kind of weird. It's it's kind of almost like they should. You know, when they do trades in the NFL for draft, not like they still they get their their correct hat and stuff like that. They don't they don't do it like this where it's duel.

SPEAKER_13 3:02:59

Like I just love that pick. Wow, Cameron Carr. I thought that was a fever dream. I always God, I can't believe we still got him after all that.

SPEAKER_17 3:03:20

Yeah, that's a big is there a chance they package him up for a trade for a center?

SPEAKER_13 3:03:32

Cam Carr?

SPEAKER_15 3:03:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 3:03:34

I would have said yeah, but I I think you think they're so I mean, yeah, let's talk about that. So Lakers had three firsts to trade, now it's two. Like, who are you getting with two firsts? You're not getting Trey Murphy anymore, right? Even though Cam Carr was mocked to Trey Murphy at the beginning of the of the of the draft uh combine, like they said he's supposed to be Trey Murphy, so kind of if he does hit, then that's great, but you have to hit if you trade these picks, like do you look at a Herb Jones? Do you look at a is it a signing trade situation where you can get a Walker Kessler, can you get a Jalen Durham? Um it's no longer I think the Trey Murphy deal is all but dead. Now, now that he fell to you, if you're like, hey, New Orleans, you know what pick 24 is. Would you do Cam Carr and two first and see if you could get Trey Murphy still? I don't know. But the fact that when we were talking about Trey Murphy trades with the Lakers, it was like, who's gonna be there at 25? It was like, oh, it's gonna be Terrace Reed Jr., Culapete, like Chris Sanat, just tier levels now that somebody in that upper teal upper tier is there.

SPEAKER_15 3:04:56

Yeah, you have a little more firepower.

SPEAKER_13 3:04:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_16 3:05:00

So Chris Sanac will go here.

SPEAKER_13 3:05:18

Yeah. Okay. Oh, Cam Carr. Welcome. Welcome.

SPEAKER_17 3:05:25

I think Sanat goes here. I think Isaiah Evans does fall to Denver. And then I think that's I think the spells.

SPEAKER_13 3:05:36

Like, do you think Denver does use that pick?

SPEAKER_17 3:05:40

I think Denver does take that. I take Isaiah Evans. I think that's something they lack right now is shooting. Um for his for his woes. I feel like they've really missed Michael Porter Jr. I don't think Christian Braun has lived up anywhere near to his contract in terms of what he he did when he was even on the court, a third or fourth option. He is not a second option guy on the court. I I think that's just been proven.

SPEAKER_13 3:06:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_17 3:06:08

So yeah, I I I think it who the Knicks pick the Knicks go Sario.

SPEAKER_13 3:06:19

They don't go big. Whoa. They go Sergio. And the Memphis versus the first one. Interesting. Is there a trade coming? With the Knicks?

unknown 3:06:42

I have the weight three.

SPEAKER_16 3:06:46

Oh man.

SPEAKER_01 3:06:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 3:06:49

I don't have a train with the I don't know. I feel like I don't I mean, I wonder if they keep Mitchell Robinson regardless now. I don't know that second apron's a motherfucker.

SPEAKER_17 3:07:01

I don't think just Dolan's gonna What a how how old is Sergio?

SPEAKER_13 3:07:08

Uh I think he's 19. I can't believe he's 19. Um, Koa Pete. I I still think the best if the Nuggets truly don't don't want to or want to avoid that apron, I think their best best trading one of these players, but what a weird pick for New York. Yeah, I don't like it at all. I thought they would have been much better. Even it does COAP now fall out the second round to the second round. I think or does brook does Brooklyn Fuck I would hate if Brooklyn took them at 28. Because they have MPJ, they have Randall. I would just hate that for development.

SPEAKER_17 3:07:59

Does Brooklyn have the 28th pick?

SPEAKER_13 3:08:01

Yeah, they traded it in the Randall trade last uh last night.

SPEAKER_17 3:08:05

Okay, so that pick belongs to Brooklyn now, so it's Brooklyn and then Cleveland and Dallas. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_13 3:08:13

Or Dallas could take COA. I'm shocked Ko I think Koa would have gone back to school if he wasn't guaranteed a first round. I'm just shocked. If if if Koe was there in the second round, if I'm the Lakers, I'm buying a second round pick. And I'm going to go get Koa P. I'm going to go get Coe P. Because that's a second round pick's a non-guaranteed deal, and he's super athletic. His shooting mechanics must have made him fall.

SPEAKER_15 3:08:54

I wouldn't do that if I was the Lakers.

SPEAKER_13 3:08:56

That shooting workout he had was off.

SPEAKER_16 3:08:59

So now I wouldn't, I wouldn't go, I wouldn't go take him.

SPEAKER_17 3:09:10

I don't know what Denver does here.

SPEAKER_16 3:09:12

Like I said, I think I think uh I would go I would probably go after a shooter. I think Isaiah Evans makes a lot of sense here.

SPEAKER_13 3:09:31

I think Isaiah Evans or Cole Pete are sure.

SPEAKER_16 3:09:34

I think Malik Thomas would be okay.

SPEAKER_00 3:09:38

Malik Thomas not bad.

SPEAKER_16 3:10:04

Crazy. You doing all of you You gonna be on tomorrow too?

SPEAKER_01 3:10:11

Hell no.

SPEAKER_16 3:10:14

Yeah, I'll finish this draft. I'm gonna or I'll finish this next few picks. I'm gonna run some 2K, man.

SPEAKER_13 3:10:31

Yeah, but Dallas for sure is a huge trade. I mean, you have there's not enough room for lively, Gafford, Mares, PJ Washington, and Najee Marshall. They have to make a trade. And I just now that the draft and especially the first round's almost over, I wonder, I wonder if you're the Lakers. Okay, we didn't use this year's first. You want a future first for Gafford? I don't know if that's worth their while. I don't know if that's worth the Mavericks while I know they need a big, and and Gafford and PJ Washington work in in Dallas with Luca. I think Gaffer makes a lot of sense for the Celtics.

SPEAKER_17 3:11:20

I wouldn't mind the Celtics going after Reed.

SPEAKER_13 3:11:25

Yeah, that's a good pick. I I I like I want the Celtics to take Joshua Jefferson just because I think he does something that none of the play he's such a good sport uh here.

SPEAKER_16 3:11:41

But yeah, I'd I wouldn't be upset with Joshua.

SPEAKER_13 3:11:48

But then the Nuggets didn't trade the pick, which I'm shocked. I thought they would have had to. I I was like, there's no way they're pick keeping the tra the pick. I was like, Denver has to be trading that pick. What's the trade to San Antonio? So Denver does shed salaries, so who the San Antonio is moving up from pick 35 with two seconds to select Terrace Reed. So you go Cadence and Terrace Reed. Interesting. That is interesting if you're San Antonio.

SPEAKER_17 3:13:35

I think they feel pretty confident their guard play, they're loading up on bigs.

SPEAKER_13 3:13:39

But I thought that they need more fours. But I guess if we've got Mason Punley, Bismack, Biombo, Luke Cornet.

SPEAKER_17 3:13:49

You think that you think that means they moved Wemby to play more of a four? I know he's seven, I know he's the tallest player in the NBA, but getting banged up is probably the fatigue they felt they saw in the finals.

SPEAKER_13 3:14:02

I do like Terrace Reed for them. Like I like it better than Cadence, at least for this year.

SPEAKER_17 3:14:06

Like Terrence Reed, that means Wimby ain't gonna get hit so much, which then creates a bigger mismatch at the four for other teams.

SPEAKER_13 3:14:16

And he's I mean, he terrace read might be an NBA four. You know what I mean? He weighs an NBA five, but he might be an NBA height-wise four. So I don't hate that, honestly. I'm shocked, I'm just shocked San Antonio went back into the second round. Or into the first round, and that the Denver Nuggets still, I think Denver's still gonna try to trade some of those seconds, but it is better if you're um I like that Denver picks because second round picks are uh non-guaranteed, so they they shedd salary without shedding salary.

SPEAKER_17 3:14:56

Pisses me off he didn't go to the Celtics, but I like that pick for them.

SPEAKER_13 3:15:00

So so do you think Denver just overpays now and just pays everyone and goes into the second apron for a year?

SPEAKER_17 3:15:09

Or I don't think Denver's built to win a championship, so I would have thought there would have been some roster moves and offloading.

SPEAKER_13 3:15:19

Yeah, so Denver gets picked 35 and an additional two first. Dang, so Celtics, let's talk talk to me about your Celtics, stay up. Um widely reported they're in the Jalen Brown sweepstakes. Obviously, they didn't get or in the Giannis sweepstakes, but they included Jalen Brown. What are your where do you guys go here? Is this is this a pick? Um another really impressive thing about here is we talked about making the jump in the A, but we made a jump over you caught at the time.

SPEAKER_17 3:16:03

Man, this kind of leaves me speechless because I I feel like Reed would have been a good fit being we're we're a constant team that seems to fight the battle of lacking interior. We pick up you know second-tier paint protection. Um I still like Isaiah Evans, I think he's a really good shooter. I don't I don't want I don't want Pete. Yeah. I think we I think we roll with with I think we do end up going with Evans, even though I still think we need a big I think there's two ways to go. You can't ever go wrong with shooting in space on the floor, so I think that's you can't have enough shooting on a team.

SPEAKER_13 3:17:03

Yeah, I I would like Evans here.

SPEAKER_17 3:17:05

Um part of me also wonders, sorry, not I don't mean to cut you off. Part of me also wonders if other teams are controlling this pick. Yeah. Because they know that you know Jalen Brown's gonna get traded. That's not a secret. It's a matter of who. If it's somebody telling Stevens, hey, we're taking that pick from in the trade, you know. Go go get go get a Saiya Evans or or whoever that may be in the back of somebody. I I I don't know what the trade would be. I'm not saying we have to give all of it up, but you just don't know when like I said, uh, I I don't I don't know what's at what's at stake here for the trade. But no, I I think you can go with Bizarra. Like I said, I think we need a big, but I don't think he's a he's a I mean he's a he's a floor spacer.

SPEAKER_13 3:17:57

I mean I have a mock with Joshua Jefferson.

SPEAKER_17 3:18:01

I'm okay with Joshua Jefferson. He's a bit undersized, but.

SPEAKER_13 3:18:05

Joshua Jefferson or I mean even Sanak might be fine. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_17 3:18:12

Yeah, that's why I said Sanak was I mean Jefferson's a bit undersized, but if you play him at the four, but I feel like Tatum's been playing four a lot more.

SPEAKER_13 3:18:25

So I'm not surprised Sanak fell. I I know the weight and his and the concerns of his uh defensive motor were a huge concern coming into the draft.

SPEAKER_17 3:18:38

They seem to be showing Sanak a lot.

SPEAKER_13 3:18:45

Isaiah Evans, I mean, I can't believe he's Evans is dropping. Evans will probably be a Maverick. I doubt he goes past Dallas, right?

SPEAKER_17 3:18:58

I don't he might not might not make it past Cleveland. I like Alex Caravan.

SPEAKER_13 3:19:25

That's a good project for Boston. I like that. Yeah, I like that too. So now Brooklyn's up. Brooklyn. Brooklyn's gonna take Isaiah Evans on. So that means Isaiah Evans, one of Isaiah Evans, Coa P and um Isaiah Evans, Coa P. Who am I missing here? Maybe it's just them two. So Isaiah Evans or Code P might not get picked in the first round.

SPEAKER_15 3:20:20

Three picks left.

SPEAKER_13 3:20:28

Yeah, I have everyone. I don't have any. So the only people I have left on my board is Joshua Jefferson, Tanat, and Isaiah Adams in my first round. So I guess every player to be drafted. I wonder if one of these three players ends up the second. That's my question. And I if I had to put money on it, I bet it's co-opete just for that. The shooting is just a huge question.

SPEAKER_01 3:21:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 3:21:12

Chris and I got a funky jumper. Oh man.

SPEAKER_13 3:21:20

Upcoming picks. But now this so Brooklyn's up. So Brooklyn, Cleveland, and Dallas to wrap up the night. And we didn't have any any big training. So this offseason, this offseason, we'll have to see after the draft. And I wonder if teams try to buy into the buy into the second round.

SPEAKER_15 3:22:29

With Adidas?

SPEAKER_13 3:22:31

Making it the top five richest rookie shoe deal in NBA history. I know the bouncer's already a Nike guy, so there's that war already. Yeah, I mean Cam Carr averaged nineteen six and seven last year.

SPEAKER_15 3:23:16

So who goes here?

SPEAKER_13 3:23:24

Brooklyn. If I'm Brooklyn, I'm looking for just good NBA players, right? You have MPJ, Randall, you got um Mikel Brown Jr. How can I compliment on it? If they're if what big is available right now? You don't have Nick Flaxton no more.

SPEAKER_17 3:23:44

Do they go the uh Basar Jefferson?

SPEAKER_13 3:23:48

Basar. I was thinking Basar. Do they go? I don't I would hate Cola Pete next to MPJ and Julas Randle for his development. You know what I mean? But at the same time, I don't know how long it will be there anyway. So um if I'm if I'm Brooklyn here, honestly, I'd go for a safe option. Is that Evans? I think you can't go wrong with a guy that just could shoot 6'7. Um you he could play the two, Mikhail Brown, Jr., you got Isaiah Evans, MPJ, Randall, and then plug in center. Um, I don't hate that at all. They could go Joshua Jefferson, um, which is another clunkier pick. They could go Alex Caravan, who I'm a big fan of. Um I don't know where Brooklyn goes here. It maybe they I would say maybe they trade it, but I don't know the team they're trading that pick too.

SPEAKER_16 3:24:43

So right now their roster is constructed of one center.

SPEAKER_13 3:24:56

Yeah, I think what's interesting, one of the biggest takeaways just from you know, off what I've seen throughout this night is that the Warriors were so at war at the pick. Yeah, Mike Dunley, I don't know if he wanted to trade the pick or keep the pick, and then Joe Lako, I don't know if he wanted to trade or keep the pick. And it sounds like it got pretty hostile on that. And I don't know who has the final say. I'm gonna assume it's the GM and Mike Dunley. But let's say they wanted to trade that pick for Trey Murphy, right? And they didn't. I don't know, I don't know how that bows well.

SPEAKER_17 3:25:37

Hopefully it all works out, but well, and you you said it earlier that if if Yaxel didn't go there, there's a big potential for him to drop. So I don't know. You know, all you can do is hope it works out for the kid getting drafted, Yaxel, and then the team.

SPEAKER_16 3:26:06

See what Brooklyn does.

SPEAKER_13 3:26:11

Yeah, Richie Saunders still on the board when he's a good shooter. Well, it'll be a second round pick, I think. Joshua Jeff Jefferson for Brooklyn, uh not bad.

SPEAKER_16 3:26:54

Who's Cleveland take?

SPEAKER_13 3:26:58

I don't think he but if I thought Cleveland would take a backup big. Um I I just think besides Mobley and Allen, they don't when they go to Thomas Bryant, I just hate I just hate that off the bench. Um they might be a co-peat team. Maybe they go Evan Mobley at the center, co-pee at the two, but I mean they need more, they need they've always needed a three, right? Isaiah Evans, like if you didn't want to pay Struce, right? We didn't want to pay Struce or whoever would be starting at that three, like they tried DeAndre Hunter. I wouldn't be surprised if they went Isaiah Evans here.

SPEAKER_15 3:27:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 3:27:38

Um that's not a bad pick. But yeah, they just need more shooting. We can't have just Struce and Sam Merrill out there. They need more threats. And and Cleveland has a pretty big track record of drafting geek players late in the first round. But I love this, I love this uh move for Brooklyn. I like Joshua Jefferson a lot. He was one of my players to watch on the going into March Madness. Didn't play as good as I thought he would, but he's one of the only players in NC NCAA last year that had a triple-double three time. So he can play make, he can rebound. He reminds me a lot of Kyle Anderson where he's athletic, but he's pretty slow. He goes at his own pace, but he has amazing court vision. And yeah. Now we're down to two picks. The Knicks got the 31st pick.

SPEAKER_17 3:28:36

Man, I'm here. It's crazy. I am watching ESPN's coverage on, you know, of course, on the TV, and they got him set at 7 or 6'7 and some change, but on their website he's listed as 6'9. Oh Jefferson.

SPEAKER_01 3:28:54

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_17 3:28:57

So they're their uh their variance is about an inch and three-quarters, whichever way you want to call it. But okay, down to two, man. Down to two. Does does Isaiah Evans stay inside the the the first round, or does he drop?

SPEAKER_13 3:29:26

So yeah, the last two players on my big board is Isaiah Evans and Cola Pete. Um, if one of these last two picks aren't them, then that'd be a little bit of a shock. But I get the Koa P concerns. I thought he should have gone back to college, but you know, I thought that I thought teams would be able to overlook a little bit of the shooting, but I get that workout he had the mechanics looked.

SPEAKER_17 3:29:56

So I'm be interested to see in that second round who gets caravan. I think he's gonna be a good yeah.

SPEAKER_13 3:30:05

I thought I thought the Spurs would have got him, but now they traded that pick to Denver. I wouldn't be surprised if Denver takes Caravan. Or if that's like a Brooklyn guy. I think Caravan, I think he's one of those just NBA players. Like, you put him out there, he's gonna hit two threes a game. You know what I mean? Now, can he get out on the on the court? That's gonna be the question with his defensive liabilities, right? Um, you know, if Laker fans in here, you guys all know Cole Schweider from the Summer League. He's one of the best shooters in the world. He can't defend lit anything. Oh, have like seven threes in the summer league and continues to just can't find a roster spot. I wonder if a team like you know, Miami, you know, they just have Giannis. Okay, they look and getting into the second round, get a caravan, Byzeah Evans is still there. Like, just get some more shooting. Um Cleveland is trading the pick.

SPEAKER_17 3:31:12

Cleveland's trading?

SPEAKER_13 3:31:14

Cleveland is trading number 29 to Sacramento for the 34th pick and future second rounder. The Kings are interested in Alex Caravan. Speaking of Alex Caravan. So yeah. Um that's interesting the Kings are interested in caravan like that to use a purse on him. But if that's their guy, right?

SPEAKER_16 3:31:44

I'm gonna turn that up a little bit. I hate that my TV's behind yours. Guess I could have opened up Twitter or X.

SPEAKER_15 3:32:02

I still call it fucking Twitter.

SPEAKER_13 3:32:07

Yeah, I didn't think Cleveland would. Oh yeah, the two teams I for sure thought were gonna trade them pictures, Cleveland and Denver, and they both have them second apron restrictions are no joke. They are proving it time and time again.

SPEAKER_16 3:32:23

Oh, hell no.

SPEAKER_17 3:32:27

This guy's saying that he's hearing that the this was just 40 minutes ago, saying that Evan Mobley is on the Celtics radar for Jalen Brown. Uh uh.

SPEAKER_13 3:32:41

You know what's so funny? I heard I heard something during the finals or in the Western Covenant finals, the Thunder were super interested in Evan Mobley as well. So I'm not shocked that teams are.

SPEAKER_17 3:32:54

I don't, I don't, man. I'd be pissed if we did a trade with Cleveland. I I'm one of those people, especially if we're trading Jalen Brown, send his send his ass to the West.

SPEAKER_13 3:33:08

I do not want to uh I still think you know Atlanta could trade Jalen Brown.

SPEAKER_17 3:33:14

Oh no, I'd be okay send him to a team that's not a threat, but if somehow you they they land Jalen Brown, and I I know they'd be guard heavy and Mowgli would hurt, but Harden Brown and and uh Donovan, that's it's a pretty nasty front court or backcourt.

SPEAKER_13 3:33:51

Yeah, so the Kings go the Kings are going Alex caravan, and we have another stunner. The Suns are trading into the first round. So the Suns see somebody they really like. They're trading with Dallas for the 30th pick. Um Phoenix now. I think Phoenix huh?

SPEAKER_17 3:34:19

First pick this tonight, right?

SPEAKER_13 3:34:22

Yeah, they didn't have a first. So they traded into the first round. I wonder what they gave up. I wonder what they gave up to because I wouldn't mind if the Lakers got that 30th pick. But if you know, if the Suns could add Isaiah Evans to that team that needs shooting around Booker, God, I love it. And I mean, oh yeah, so COAP or Isaiah Evans will be a second rounder. Because Alice Caravan went in the first round.

SPEAKER_17 3:34:54

Yeah. I like Caravan. Like I said, I I I like it.

SPEAKER_16 3:35:20

One pick left.

SPEAKER_13 3:35:24

I don't know why Dallas didn't won.

SPEAKER_16 3:35:27

Um and it goes to the Suns, huh?

SPEAKER_13 3:35:30

Oh, I I I can almost guarantee you Phoenix is gonna draft the Phoenix of the Arizona kid, Ko a P. I can almost guarantee that. That makes way too much sense. They need a forward. Dylan Brooks was playing the four last year. They go Ko a P and he stays in Arizona.

SPEAKER_17 3:35:51

Yeah. And move Brooks down to the three.

SPEAKER_13 3:35:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_16 3:36:03

Damn, so that means Isaiah Evans will be there for the taking tomorrow.

SPEAKER_13 3:36:07

I'll go to the second round. Yeah, just to run down some winners and losers, I thought big winner tonight was the Milky Bucks getting Isaiah uh Braden Burries and Nada Mann. Um I thought another big winner was the Memphis Grizzlies getting um Cam Boozer and Karim Lopez. Um I thought OKC was a huge winner tonight. They got Ben Benedict Strip uh starts and um a day Mara. Um you got any winners, or you want to have to just big one?

SPEAKER_17 3:36:59

Well, I will say I think your Lakers got a win. I think your your your Lakers were not prepared to get uh Cameron Carr.

SPEAKER_01 3:37:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_17 3:37:12

So I think that's that's a positive. No, no, I think you hit a lot of the winners, and I truly, I mean, this was a very stacked draft. I do think the Thunder came out even better, which is scary for the whole league that they were able to land another seven-foot player. Um, I think from not just an NBA standpoint, I think from a perception standpoint, Michigan landing three first-round picks, Houston landing two first-round picks, from a college standpoint. I think those are both winning programs that showed that they can uh produce college players. Now, of course, the Michigan coaches is uh now with the Dallas Mavericks. So um I still don't like what Philly did with Pelon. I don't think that was the right pick for them, so I would say they were probably on my board of I don't like to use the word losers, but just wrong decisions is what I'll say. And then I still don't like Christian Anderson um at Charlotte. I I know he's a good shooter. Um, I've watched him closely with he was a Texas Tech. So I I I don't like that move. I think that they could have uh went a different path. Uh Phelan to me might have even been a better fit there, or um even Cameron Carr going down or going for with a bigger player. I just don't think Christian Anderson was the right move there. But overall, a good draft. I think the Bulls had a good draft as well.

SPEAKER_13 3:38:46

Yeah, I thought the Bulls had a really good, I thought they're another winner. Um getting Caleb Wilson and Jalen Swain. Um super exciting team. I really like um I really like what um the Spurs did. They got Jaden quick uh Cadence and Terrace Reed Jr. Now Wemby doesn't have to play as much. Cadence can you know develop to whatever he's gonna be. Um he's one of the best defenders in this draft, and he just paired him up with the first unanimous defensive player of the year. Um I like it. I like I think I think, yeah, like you said, I thought Christian Anderson to the Charlotte, I didn't like that pick, and I didn't like Alan Grace to Toronto because I thought they needed a another guard. But other than that, I think everybody else. I'm shocked Denver didn't trade the pick. Oh no, they did trade the pick. They did trade it, yeah. So yeah, I mean everything else pretty much went status quo. Um, yeah, I'm up a draft night, though. Yeah, good draft night.

SPEAKER_17 3:39:56

Good draft.

SPEAKER_13 3:39:58

Yeah, well, I'm absolutely starving, and we've been on for almost four hours. But Matt, thank you for joining me today. That was awesome. Ford, thank you for joining, coming on today. Um, thank you to everybody that joined this chat today, uh left your comments, all that. Um, let us know your thoughts in the comment section. Biggest winners, winners, losers. Um, who who's your team? Who do they pick? Um, like, comment, subscribe on the video, and we'll see you guys next time.