"Hov IS The Program"| EP.22

This week on 808’s & Convo, Emo G & JUSTCALLMETEMP balances celebration with some of the culture’s heavier conversations.

We kick things off with a legendary moment as Jay-Z gears up to headline the Roots Picnic along with the legendary band on May 30th in honor of the 30th anniversary of Reasonable Doubt. On top of that, Hov is set to take over Yankee Stadium for two nights July 10th & July 11th celebrating both the 30th anniversary of “Resonable Doubt” the first night & the 25th anniversary for “The Blueprint” on night 2.

Next, we address serious allegations involving Swizz Beatz and his ex Jahna Sebastian, who has filed a criminal case accusing him of rape and making claims involving Alicia Keys and their daughter. 

We also discuss Mystikal, who is now set to be sentenced after pleading guilty to third-degree rape charges stemming from his 2022 arrest. 

Album Review:

The duo dives into Ty Dolla $ign’s latest project “girl music vol. 1”. Does Ty deliver another smooth, hit-ready experience or is it more vibe than substance?

Tap in. Let’s talk about it.

Opening Set List:

It’s Over Now- 112

Na Na- Trey Songz

Undecided- Chris Brown

Tell Me- Bobby Valentino

Transcript

SPEAKER_07 0:13

Yo Tim, I really do miss you, man. I do.

SPEAKER_09 0:17

You mess him?

SPEAKER_07 0:18

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 0:19

I miss you too. I feel like I just haven't called you.

SPEAKER_07 0:22

Nah, you know, life be life, and I get it. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 0:26

There's too much going on in this fucking life.

SPEAKER_07 0:29

If anybody be knowing, I be knowing, man.

SPEAKER_04 0:31

No, like I we didn't ask for all the troubles. No, not at all. We didn't ask for all the troubles. The shit is like ghetto as fuck. Ghetto as fuck. It's supposed to be 62 on Sunday, and sound like I'm calling out.

SPEAKER_07 0:46

No, but it's gonna rain. Oh, never mind. I'm going in.

SPEAKER_04 0:52

Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_07 0:54

I'm going in. I'm not going to go in.

SPEAKER_04 0:56

It's gonna rain Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday.

SPEAKER_07 0:58

I'm definitely at work the whole week like I'm like a loyal employee.

SPEAKER_04 1:05

Some bullshit. But M PA not here. Shut up.

SPEAKER_08 1:10

Yeah, start.

SPEAKER_04 1:15

Wrong. Send me that too. For this episode. The order. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, wow. Send that over before you even start.

SPEAKER_07 1:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:24

Yeah. Okay. Send that over, my brother man. Yeah. Brother Man, Brother Man. Right now. I've been catching up on my beauty and black.

SPEAKER_07 1:35

Beauty and Black? What do you mean? What's that?

SPEAKER_04 1:38

Tyler Perry shit.

SPEAKER_07 1:40

There's a Tyler Perry show called Beauty and Black. What is it? What is it on?

SPEAKER_04 1:44

It's on Netflix. Really? Yeah, it's raunchy as fuck. What's it about? Dumb bitches fucking smuggling drugs, then get caught up with a family who are rich but then going broke at the same time. And niggas got fucking sex like sleeves and bitches working in the club and there's all types of shit going on. He got a new girlfriend though. She's a baddie. Okay. Mr.

SPEAKER_07 2:18

Perry. He he's in that he's in the show, actually? No. Oh bunch of low budget shit. Of course. That's how he makes his money. That's how the rich stay rich, man.

SPEAKER_04 2:34

I enjoy it though. That shit be having me on too. I'll be right back.

SPEAKER_07 2:37

But you like you like ratchet shit.

SPEAKER_04 2:41

It's exciting.

SPEAKER_07 2:43

You like that shit, man. That shit, that's your shit.

SPEAKER_04 2:45

Listen, I ain't got nothing else going on. I need something to give me some sort of like razzle dazzle, okay?

SPEAKER_06 2:51

No, I'm not gonna at all. I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_07 2:54

That's your bag, you know what I'm saying? Like I feel you. I don't, I'm not even they should put me on baddies. I'm not even I'm not even shocked in the slightest that that that that that excites you. That in that entices you, you know what I'm saying? That's just you know.

SPEAKER_04 3:14

I'm not surprised, man. It's very interesting to see people out of character. Why is that okay?

SPEAKER_02 3:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 3:24

Something is clearly not right up there. A lot. The elevator don't go all the way up. Clearly. Yeah. For motherfuckers to be like really selling their soul. Wall. Like you sell your soul for all the wrong reasons. Like, I just don't understand. People are fucking idiots for a bag for Chanely.

SPEAKER_07 3:44

But you but you like looking at that shit, though.

SPEAKER_04 3:47

Yeah, it's funny. I think because they're fucking idiots.

SPEAKER_07 3:49

Why do you enjoy that though?

SPEAKER_04 3:50

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know trauma shit.

SPEAKER_07 3:55

Somebody else's pain. Misery? Brings you comfort?

SPEAKER_04 3:58

I don't think it's pain. I think it's I think it's misery.

SPEAKER_07 4:02

They don't know that it's pain, but it is.

SPEAKER_04 4:04

Maybe. I don't know.

SPEAKER_07 4:06

That behavior is just like detrimental to damn medication.

SPEAKER_04 4:11

I don't think it's that. I just think that there's no way of explaining it. Like that's like that's like me saying, like a alright. I gotta mind my my tongue and my words. I got people tapping into the pot, so yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 4:32

Okay, so just watch how you choose your words and watch.

SPEAKER_04 4:35

Yeah, I'm trying. So that shit excites people who not used to it. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Like they get a throw out of that shit. Like, oh, boom, pop, boop, boop. Like, oh, like, oh my god, like why would they do that? Like and then in the back of my mind, I'm just saying they like probably would have did the same shit.

SPEAKER_06 4:57

Oh shit.

SPEAKER_04 5:02

Oh shit. No, depending on the situation and circumstance, obviously, but I don't know. I just think that, um you know, it's a distraction. Okay. It's a distraction from my reality.

SPEAKER_07 5:19

Good or bad way?

SPEAKER_04 5:20

Both. You know what I'm saying? Bad because it's just like I don't condone violence, I don't condone people kicking other people down when they're already there, especially. I don't like it. You know, that's not that's not something that I'm into. But I think the good thing about it is that again, it distracts me from my own reality in the sense of like the reality is folks, my life is boring. Yeah. Okay. Apart from like my personal like relationships and shit, like as far as family, friends, partner, whatever, like that's cool and all, but we're talking about somebody who works a nine or five. Yeah, I get it, I get it, I get it.

SPEAKER_07 6:06

The everyday average American And so just watching reality TV gives me that little bit of excitement that I that little dose of excitement I need. Yeah, like, you know. I get it. Nigga, go jump out of a plane or something. I don't know. Nah, I have a heart attack. Fuck it all. Go to Six Flags. Like I said, jump out of a plane. Go to Six Flags.

SPEAKER_04 6:27

Must not, no. You must not. Man, go to Six Flags. I have a heart attack there too. I'll probably shit on myself.

SPEAKER_07 6:36

You don't do you don't do roller coasters?

SPEAKER_04 6:38

You know, I haven't I so I developed a fear. Damn. I think post-COVID. Yeah. Cause I never used to be like that before COVID came about.

SPEAKER_07 6:50

I never heard that one. I'm first of all, I don't get on roller coasters for shit. Like I'm and no, I'll hold your purse. I got you. I'm an official like I'm a purse, nigga. I'm an authentic. No, no, I'm not you, nigga. I'm just speaking in general. I'm a I'm an authentic purse holder, nigga. I'm not going on no fucking roller coaster. I'm a pussy when it comes to that. I never, but I've always been that way. I've never heard nobody just develop that shit over time. Like that's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 7:18

No, I really think that that shit has a lot to do with COVID, cuz I don't like the train. I don't like the bus. Like, I feel like motherfuckers are so close. You know what I'm saying? I feel like you're trying to do something to me.

SPEAKER_02 7:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 7:31

Paranoid. You know what I'm saying? Like, that that COVID shit really instilled that that paranoia into motherfuckers. Like, and I'm trying to like ease my way out of that. But I also has I also feel like it has like a contributing factor of like my past. Like when I was in job court, I feel like the job court, my job court experience also contributed some sort of like paranoia, distress. A lot of shit. I feel like that place and a lot of people that I talk to who actually experienced job court with myself um along with myself, they will say the same thing. A lot of people feel like they we've been impacted mentally, emotionally.

SPEAKER_07 8:22

And from job court.

SPEAKER_04 8:26

Oh, from job court. Yeah. Yeah. Like I feel like a lot of us feel like we were we were impacted from that experience. Like job court traumatized y'all or some shit? Mm-hmm. Really? Yeah, because the whole point of job core is to break you down and build you back up like you were in the military. Oh, that's nuts. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 8:46

I didn't know it was that rough.

SPEAKER_04 8:48

Yeah. Yeah, that's a conversation for another day. We're talking about that. That's I didn't know that. Yeah. Shit.

SPEAKER_07 8:56

Okay. Well, anyway.

SPEAKER_04 8:57

Sorry to make it dark. But yeah, that I think that I think I think that's what it is because it's like it's not happening literally in front of me. All the shit that's happening on TV that I'm watching. Yeah. It's on the screen. So it's like I know I'm safe because I'm not next to none of the madness. So it's I got it. I get it. Stoic.

SPEAKER_07 9:16

Like, just I understand. Yeah. Shit like that. I still can't get jiggy with it, but it's I understand. Yeah. Alright. Fuck it.

SPEAKER_12 9:31

Put these pummers in your pocket. I remember when you throw those things away. Why do you wanna keep in touch now? Who gave you a reason? Come in take it. How much I get I don't want to stay. We don't need to get Oh na you gotta explain it.

SPEAKER_11 10:34

Oh no spin on its cat. Oh no If it keeps taking it. Put your head in the gate, you love it to die. Put your head in the gate, it's been in the night. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Everybody's gonna lie. Oh no, no, no, no, no. Everybody Baby, I'm the one you like, yeah. I'ma give you a light, yeah. Oh yeah, I'ma get you right, yeah. Best time I'm you ready, tell the way it's get checked. Girl, I know you ready, ain't it? Got a check, check. You better do the worst, let me show you the best. No, I'ma get you right, girl. I'm both to the left. Oh na. What's you start? Oh nana Why you gotta explode it. Oh none spin on this cat-nace if you love it to die if you spin the night.

SPEAKER_03 14:44

Oh, she's top of the morning.

SPEAKER_07 14:52

Top of the top. What's up with it, people? Welcome back to 80 waits and carvo, the music podcast for music fans, by music fans. I'm your man, Emoji.

SPEAKER_04 15:01

What it is or what it ain't here with your girl temp.

SPEAKER_07 15:04

This is episode 22.

SPEAKER_04 15:08

22.

SPEAKER_07 15:12

Yeah, I remember that. Remember that. What's up, girl?

SPEAKER_04 15:15

Trying to teach, I'm trying to teach these motherfuckers in Spanish. What's going on with this shit? Spanish. Shut, man. I ain't gonna lie, I'm really mad at it. I ain't buy no Barty tickets.

SPEAKER_07 15:26

No who?

SPEAKER_04 15:27

No Barty tickets. No? She already she was in Jersey already, right? Be in the city. I think it's this weekend, if I'm not mistaken.

SPEAKER_07 15:36

She's gonna be in where? Madison Square?

SPEAKER_04 15:39

I don't remember, but I'm just upset that I ain't buying no tickets. So Cardi, if you listening, how bad.

SPEAKER_07 15:48

Please. Big Bronx and you know. You know what I mean? Like shout out to Cardi, though.

SPEAKER_04 15:52

Shout out to Cardi.

SPEAKER_07 15:53

God damn. The brim says she heard. I've been seeing a bunch of like clips of uh her tour of the side. Yo, she's IG and all that. She is.

SPEAKER_04 16:06

She's fucking killing it. I don't care what nobody says. That's why I'm really upset that I ain't buy no tickets to this kind of this tour.

SPEAKER_07 16:12

I tell you what else is killing though. That that chair is killing her. I've seen so many videos of her falling out that fucking chair.

SPEAKER_04 16:20

I just think that is part of the show. She's just being ass. I feel like the beginning it wasn't a part of the show. Like it was like actually. And she just made it a thing at this time. I like that, but yo, it could be a thing. It could be a thing.

SPEAKER_07 16:34

She knows what she's doing. We're going with that narrative. She ain't no dumb bitch. We're gonna go with that narrative.

SPEAKER_04 16:39

She knows what the fuck she's doing.

SPEAKER_07 16:41

And I like it. Yeah. She turned a negative into a positive.

SPEAKER_04 16:45

Fuck you talking about these parts. You know what I'm saying? No cardies. Yo, Cardi, you know we like you.

SPEAKER_07 16:58

I've been watching you since love and hip hop. No, I genuinely love Cardi B. No, for real.

SPEAKER_04 17:03

I ain't gonna hold you. That's that's the Libra to my to my Scorpio. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to Cardi B. Shout out to Cardi, man. Oh man. No, let's get into it, man. Since we talk about New Yorkers, man. And concerts. Yeah. And concerts.

SPEAKER_07 17:18

Oh, you good at this segue shit. I see you. You good at that. I see you. I see you. Jay-Z to headline. Let me cook.

unknown 17:31

Fuck.

SPEAKER_07 17:32

No, take it away, Chef Tim.

SPEAKER_04 17:35

Go ahead. Take it away, Chef Tim. I had glow in my head all day. Like shout out to Glow.

SPEAKER_08 17:41

Oh, you're stupid. Let her cook. Yo, you're stupid. You're fucking food. Hey, little cook. Hey.

SPEAKER_04 17:58

Let her cook.

SPEAKER_11 18:03

We never make the nook. Back for everything I ever lost. I'm on me. We turned the whole house into boot.

SPEAKER_05 18:10

We eat kitchen. Alright. Uh huh. Whipping it. Whipping it. Whipping it.

SPEAKER_07 18:15

Alright, we even get into the shit. Right. Come on, man.

SPEAKER_05 18:17

Let me cook. Alright.

SPEAKER_07 18:19

Yo, Jay-Z is gonna headline the Roots picnic May May 30th for the reasonable doubt 30th anniversary.

SPEAKER_04 18:24

In Phillet, Phillet. Oh man, that's a big deal.

SPEAKER_07 18:27

Philly, well, and not only that, he just recently just announced that he's also gonna be set to perform at the Yankee Stadium for two nights in July. So now two episodes ago, episode 20, I think I was talking about this.

SPEAKER_05 18:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 18:43

I guess I'm all the way wrong about the whole Barclay Center thing. I was talking about that Barclay Center had like a blackout for two weeks straight. Okay. And it was just convenient that Jay had just put out the uh the uh dead the dead president's verse or whatever. Yeah and then Anniversary changed his name back to the old way he used to spell it and all type of shit. And then all of a sudden it was two weeks missing in the Barclay Center. So we just kind of thought to put all that together and it was like, cause you know how how strategic Hove is and how he just he's just he just moves in like silence, like all the time or whatever. But and we love it, yeah. We do, we do. And and and with his work with Barclays and you know helping establish it up, we just assumed that he was gonna have like a fucking two-week show. And I but I also said that I was like, no, that's a lot that's that's that's too much time. It's too much to be fucking, and it's not like he was gonna be performing for two weeks straight, like for 14 days straight. Sure that he was gonna have other. But it was it was like that's too much shows to be fucking doing the same thing over and over again. Like, but I was like, it was it was weird though.

SPEAKER_04 19:50

But then it's hove.

SPEAKER_07 19:52

But it's yeah, it's hove. But what was wrong? It's wrong. Yankee dude who went to the town. So apparently the motherfucker is gonna be performing at the roots picnic and at the Yankee Stadium. We love that. We love that. Now, although the dates are still blacked out, the bar clays, those are still blacked out dates, but that's unbeknownst, obviously. Like unbeknownst, pretty much.

SPEAKER_04 20:18

We we'll figure it out. How do we feel with what?

SPEAKER_07 20:24

With him headlining and back outside, like not even on some like NFL shit, like curating the Super Bowl and all that. Like, he's back outside, like, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 20:38

As he should. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_07 20:44

You're getting tired of touring and shit, man.

SPEAKER_04 20:46

She likes it. What the fuck? I need a break with my kids. That's offending. You go out there and I don't know, do something, motherfucker, other than, you know, talk about who the fuck is gonna perform at the next halftown show.

SPEAKER_07 21:04

Like at the next Super and shit.

SPEAKER_04 21:08

Like, I don't know. It could be that, it could be could be multiple things. You know what I mean with my little theories, but why now? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 21:21

There's a lot going on. There's a lot going on. A lot of people feel like why now we feel like he has something in the work.

SPEAKER_04 21:33

He's like Machiavelli, like resurrected, like the fuck.

SPEAKER_07 21:38

I think it is a huge moment for the I'm not complaining though. It's a huge moment for the culture. Yeah. It is. He ain't perform or or or release material in a couple of years now.

SPEAKER_04 21:47

Yeah. I mean, he was on um he was on a feature. On a feature, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 21:54

But I feel like he walked on that. DJ Khaled shit the um he was on that DJ Khaled album. I don't know the name of that song, but that song where it was like Lil' Wayne, him, Nas, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 22:06

I think I sent it to you too, and I forgot.

SPEAKER_07 22:09

I'm excited to say the least, though. I'll just like me personally when Hove popped back out, I'll be excited to see where his head is at lyrically. You know, like like what it what can you possibly rap about at this point now?

SPEAKER_04 22:22

I think he's gonna I think he's gonna address a lot of shit. He's gonna address I'm gonna give three things. Yeah. I think he's gonna address his name being brought up in the Epstein files.

SPEAKER_07 22:39

Gotta address that. But he got he gotta he gotta like he gotta prance around that. Yeah, you don't want to put too much in it because you want to implicate yourself.

SPEAKER_04 22:48

But yes, I feel like it's definitely I think it has a part to play.

SPEAKER_07 22:53

I also he's gonna address some Super Bowl shit.

SPEAKER_04 22:56

Yeah, that's exactly what I was gonna do.

SPEAKER_07 22:59

A lot of people probably was was hating for him having bad bunny as a choice for Super Bowl. Correct. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 23:06

That so that was the second one that I was gonna dish out. And then I would say the third, the direction that that the industry is going in as far as music is concerned, and what it sounds like right now. Yeah. And I think in the midst of all of that, he's gonna talk about all his accomplishments.

SPEAKER_07 23:29

Of course, the artwork he accumulated that he's gonna give to his kids one day. Yeah, all that all that good shit. The the business mergers that he built. The empire that he built. His wife B. You don't ever say Beyonce always B. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, the usual bullshit. Like, besides all that shit, we already know he's gonna tap into that. Yeah, that's a fact. That's a fact you're gonna tap into that shit.

SPEAKER_04 23:57

He might say some slick shit about niggas being mad that he some hubelows that niggas don't got. That he signed off on Cardi Sampling, even though Cardi did say in the interview and she said an online that it took a very long time for that shit to get clear.

SPEAKER_07 24:15

I would like to hear him talk about that. You know what? You know what else I would like to hear him talk about? J. Cole leaving Rock Rock Rock Nation. Yeah, that could be a thing too. I would like to hear with even if it's like a quick half a bar, I don't care.

SPEAKER_04 24:27

I want to hear him just like you know he's definitely gonna throw a jab.

SPEAKER_07 24:30

You gotta throw something.

SPEAKER_04 24:31

He is gunning. He's gonna come in with some shit. I need to see that. And this is the problem. Like, I feel like all the artists that like we ended up like gravitating towards, like, I feel like they all about to fill the wrath. Like, sudden, especially with Drake talking about Iceman, Iceman, Iceman, Iceman, Iceman, Iceman. That nigga's cooking up. He's allowing all y'all motherfuckers to drop your shit to just for him to feed off of it. And give him even more ammunition, more reason to show y'all how shrimp y'all niggas are. Like, and that's exactly what Jay's gonna do. And I and I, you know, Great Mons thing alike. I think that's why Drake and Jay, very strong-minded people. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? They're they're they're creators, they're fucking Picasso over there, and you got fucking Houdini over there, and I'm talking about Drake, because you know, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I got that. You get what I'm saying? Like, I just I feel like I feel like that's where the egos collide, and that's why they can't get together. I don't think it really necessarily has anything to do with Nikki and Rihanna. You know what I'm saying? Um because if that was the case, they would have never been on that track together.

SPEAKER_07 25:47

He would have never been a feature on Hov and Drake been on like at least four songs together. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. And I and you know what? That's crazy. Now that we on that subject, I wonder why those songs never really got like much attention. The attention that they recognition that it, yeah. I don't know. Those are giants, bro. Yeah, what is it? Pound cake? What else? No, the first one was on it on the on the on the first album, think we later album. The uh light up. Light up, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true. Light up, light up, pound cake, yeah. And then um the shit on Scorpion. The shit on Scorpion, bro.

SPEAKER_04 26:30

No, no, no, no, no. This is all I need.

SPEAKER_07 26:33

No, no, that's that's that's on Certified Lover Boy.

SPEAKER_04 26:35

No, no, I know, but that's that's my shit.

SPEAKER_07 26:38

Scorpion and yo, and it was it was called Talk Up. This shit right here.

SPEAKER_04 26:42

Yeah, talk up, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's when he was talking his shit.

SPEAKER_07 26:45

Yeah, that shit.

SPEAKER_04 26:46

He was just talking.

SPEAKER_07 26:48

Jay was just talking. Then they did uh the channel uh Certified Lover Boy, which is um what was the name of that song?

SPEAKER_04 26:54

Yeah, he was never kids.

SPEAKER_07 26:58

What was your favorite one of the old photos though?

SPEAKER_04 27:02

I'm so proud of who I Light U.

SPEAKER_07 27:07

Light Up? Yeah, Light Up was bar heavy. Yeah, gonna hold you.

SPEAKER_04 27:11

And I know all them shits.

SPEAKER_07 27:12

That shit was bar heavy.

SPEAKER_04 27:14

Bar for bar. I could say nothing. Love all, love all, love all. Love all was like grown. I was like, Yeah, it like it showed where niggas very mature in their in their peak.

SPEAKER_07 27:24

Yeah, like their light up was like that shit was like made the badge light up. They was testing each other's like lyrical abilities there.

SPEAKER_04 27:34

Like, we're gonna make that badge light up.

SPEAKER_07 27:38

Yeah. Pound cake was like the most note, like the most notable uh sauna they got together. Yeah, like that's the that's the one. If anybody was to say, oh yo, did Jay and Drake ever had a sonic, they would go straight to Pound Cake.

SPEAKER_04 27:53

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 27:53

They'll forget about the other three songs, they go straight to Pound Cake.

SPEAKER_04 27:56

Well, how would you rate that though?

SPEAKER_07 27:59

Over the four songs? Yeah. Oh I'm gonna start from from from from from least to to from least favorite to to to bet to most favorite. Okay, so talk up, number four. Yeah, for sure. Look at that's that's like, yeah, like like no, that's like no. No, no. Number three will have to be Oh my god damn. Cause those other three were like fucking good good ones, man. Number three will have to be, I'm not gonna lie, it will have to be uh yeah, that's what I'm gonna for sure. Number two will have to be light up, light up, and then number one, pound cake.

SPEAKER_04 28:53

Alright, so so the first two is what I would say also talk up, yeah. And I know why you said pound cake last as that's number one, because it is notable. Yes, for sure. Cake, cake, cake, cake, cake. Everybody remembers that.

SPEAKER_07 29:12

And and they were jabbing at each other. Yeah, like if you if you think about it, they were jabbing at each other on that song. They were jabbing at each other on that song.

SPEAKER_04 29:18

If you really listen to the lyrics, but I feel like that was the same shit kind of with light up.

SPEAKER_07 29:22

Light up, Drake ain't had no reason to jab at Jay.

SPEAKER_04 29:26

No, he was just being feisty. I think he was trying to match the energy in the sense of like, but Jay, yo, Jay, I got this. I could I could show you that I could do this.

SPEAKER_07 29:34

Also, like you know what I'm saying, in my opinion, Jay wiped the fucking map with Drake on all four features. I'm not even gonna lie to you. He he he beat Drake, he whipped Drake's ass on all four features. I'm not gonna lie to you. And I love Drake, and I feel like I'm always anti-Drake every time I say this, some shit like this. Mind you, this is I love Drake.

SPEAKER_04 29:53

But yeah, like I was about to say, like, between me and this nigga here, like, I don't know. I don't know. But this motherfucker be acting like anti.

SPEAKER_07 30:02

I'm a whole fan though. Anti. Bet that shit. Listen all photos. Listen all for those songs tonight. Anti. He wiped the fucking map with that nigga.

SPEAKER_04 30:11

No, I know, I know. No, no, no, no, no. I agree.

SPEAKER_07 30:14

But yeah, but what's your four? I'm sorry. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 30:16

No, what's your I said it. The first two that you said.

SPEAKER_07 30:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 30:20

And then for me, for me, keep saying pound cake will go. Two. And then light up will be one. Yeah. For me. I got you. I got you. Wayne's in the sun. I love light up.

SPEAKER_07 30:34

We gotta make that behes light up. I can't give him that because he was being mad and ambitious. I just like the act of the hair. I do like the post on their heads like on the man that the owls. Yeah. Chip a lot, don't even ask me how con that is and flow, don't even need a light. Oh my god. When the city light up. Uh-huh. Oh, yeah. I'm listening on my way out. Yeah. Nah, nah, nah. That's the one right there. Nah, that's a one. That's that's definitely the one. But yeah. So Hove, yeah, he's doing he's also doing back-to-back dates at Yankee Stadium. Doing big team.

SPEAKER_04 31:12

Yo, are is that gonna go to the public? Because there's like people are renting online. Like, yo, can I get a free ticket? Call the motherfuckers, and yeah, it's a lot of shit.

SPEAKER_07 31:21

Like, all right, if that's the case, I need to be there. Is it open to the public? That's home base. That's the Bronx. That's home base. Yeah, that's that's definitely home base. That's also that's also one of my favorite rappers in the world.

SPEAKER_04 31:31

That's that's out of the side of the ballpark.

SPEAKER_07 31:35

Nah, I'm not gonna miss. Nah, I gotta go to this. We gotta go to that. We gotta go to that. I missed the Jay-Z and Eminem shit. That'll be that'll be crazy.

SPEAKER_04 31:44

Yeah, yeah, but we gotta go to this.

SPEAKER_07 31:47

Nah, this is this is this is the one right here.

SPEAKER_04 31:48

This is big right here. I feel like this is bigger than the 50th annual that I want to.

SPEAKER_07 31:53

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 31:54

This is bigger than that. Like, and I hate to say it like that because it makes it sound like I'm biased and I'm I feel like Jay's like the bigger than the program, but that's not even the case, honestly.

SPEAKER_07 32:05

Right. What's going on with Papa? Probably fell out the bed. No.

SPEAKER_04 32:09

But yeah, like it makes it sound like I'm making it seem as if he's bigger than the program, and and maybe he is. Maybe he is. I don't know. Oh, Hove?

SPEAKER_07 32:21

Hove bigger than the program? Hove is the program. I was just waiting for you to come. That man is the program.

SPEAKER_04 32:31

Yeah, he is, and that's the problem. That's the problem. That's the problem. Ain't nobody fucking with him.

SPEAKER_07 32:37

He is the program. He's he's what everybody I don't give a fuck if they don't say that. He's what everybody will want to be. Yeah. No bullshit. No bullshit.

SPEAKER_04 32:48

Help me get the keys to that. Six. Who's so happy, poor, but we got rich.

SPEAKER_07 32:55

Shout out to Hope, man. He's gonna have that roost picnic. So yeah, make y'all make sure y'all go there May 30th to Philly.

SPEAKER_04 33:01

Good thing I'm close. You know what I mean? Go support Jay-Z.

SPEAKER_07 33:05

You gonna see that for sure? Shout out to J. Yo, if you if you see that, I'll go to Philly. Shout out to Joseph Money. I'm gonna go to Philly to it. I'll put that on everything. I I will go to Philly. Not for a bit. I'm dead serious. I'll give my ass an Airbnb. You come, y'all come stay with us, what type of shit. I ain't gonna lie.

SPEAKER_04 33:23

I'd have to go see my pops too.

SPEAKER_07 33:25

Around that time?

SPEAKER_04 33:26

Yeah. Yeah, man. And I was in the hospital.

SPEAKER_07 33:29

That's that's definitely fun.

SPEAKER_04 33:31

But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 33:33

But if you thought about it, it's in the air.

SPEAKER_04 33:35

No, yeah, it's definitely in the air. Because I've been I've been beating myself up with like missing out on big moments with a lot of artists.

SPEAKER_07 33:45

Yeah, that that's a moment, man.

SPEAKER_04 33:47

Yeah. Yeah. That's like a once in a lifetime.

SPEAKER_07 33:50

That's why I said we all we also gotta do this cold shit too. Like, I want to get tickets for the cold shit.

SPEAKER_04 33:54

I feel like it's mandatory to go CJ. You mean to cut you off? It's mandatory, CJ. It's mandatory because we don't know if this ever gonna happen again.

SPEAKER_07 34:02

He he's about to be 60.

SPEAKER_04 34:04

Exactly.

SPEAKER_07 34:04

That's why I said that. You know what I'm saying? I'm not saying that's where I'll, you know, that's that's our cut off or no, but you know, you know how it is, man. You just fucking never know, man. But I feel like it's imperative that we go CJ.

SPEAKER_04 34:19

Oh yeah. We gotta go see Jay, we gotta see Cole. Can you give me Yeah, is even summer jam a thing anymore?

SPEAKER_07 34:27

Don't say that. That sounds depressing.

SPEAKER_04 34:30

I wouldn't even, yo, I wouldn't even go to a summer jam concert at this point.

SPEAKER_07 34:34

No, fuck no. Not no more. I said summer, not summer jam. Oh no, but I'm talking about summer jam. Summer jam, no, no, no, no, no. I'm saying I wouldn't go. That ain't the same no more. Them summer jams is not magical no more, my nigga.

SPEAKER_04 34:50

Like no sense. Anyway. Big up to Hove, man. It still is though Man.

SPEAKER_07 35:01

Yeah, we're gonna slide into the next one, man. Yo, so I don't know too much about this situation, but the ex of a Swiss beats, her name is uh Jana Sebastian. She accused the makeup reducer, and she filed a criminal case of alleged rape against him. And she also claimed that him and Alicia Keys may have abducted their daughter Rachel. Yo, I didn't I had no first of all, I had no idea that he had a daughter. I only thought he had kids with Alicia, his son Egypt, and all that.

SPEAKER_04 35:42

And no, supposedly Alicia Alicia was a home rucker.

SPEAKER_07 35:48

Yeah, apparently. That ain't got nothing to do with this.

SPEAKER_04 35:50

And he was he was married to her.

SPEAKER_07 35:53

He was married, he was a whole family. He's married, no, no, he was married to Mashonda. Oh yeah. I don't know who the fuck this girl is. No, no, no. He's married to a singer named Mashonda. And and and Alicia Keys came in and wrecked that that that situation.

SPEAKER_04 36:09

That situation.

SPEAKER_07 36:09

I don't know who the fuck this lady is.

SPEAKER_04 36:11

She don't just take blame in that. That's that's both of them motherfuckers. It's Swiss and her.

SPEAKER_07 36:17

Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_04 36:18

I hate how everybody quick to come for Alicia, you know what I'm saying? Like, I just feel like if it was a happy home, it would have never happened, respectfully. It is what it is, here for a good time, not a long time.

SPEAKER_07 36:33

Like, if it was a happy home, it'd have never happened. You stupid. That would have never been a thing. But that's the goddamn truth, though. I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_04 36:46

If you knew better, you'd do better.

SPEAKER_07 36:48

So, Jonna Sebastian, she called out Swiss and Alicia for also getting their daughter addicted to drugs.

SPEAKER_04 36:56

All types of shit.

SPEAKER_07 36:57

And she also claimed that their daughter also hit Miss Sebastian. And now she didn't specify what type of drugs is. I'm just gonna assume it's just weed. Nah, let me stop. I'm gonna uh cannab ass. Your whole mind might change when I give you the information I I just found out about.

SPEAKER_04 37:16

BTA!

SPEAKER_07 37:17

BTA Sebastian also stated that Swiss allegedly raped her for years now and all. She also claimed that the producer has been trying to silence her this whole time. I'm not too sure of the timeline of all these accusations, but it's it's not so much detail surfacing online as to when and where all these claims took place. But it's it's it's it's rather odd.

SPEAKER_04 37:42

Was she ever seen in the public eye with him?

SPEAKER_07 37:45

No.

SPEAKER_04 37:46

Alright, so then there's the first connect the dot, you know, and then that's that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_07 37:51

Well, not just that reason, but like all this shit seems rather odd. I've never heard of this woman before.

SPEAKER_04 37:56

How long him and Alicia have been together? How many years? Yeah, a long time. A long time. And and the daughter 17. Daughter's 17. People do the math.

SPEAKER_07 38:06

Yeah. 17 years ago would be about wait, what is it, 2026 right now?

SPEAKER_04 38:11

2026 right now. So then that would have been what? 20 2009, 2010?

SPEAKER_07 38:18

Something like that, yeah. 2026.

SPEAKER_04 38:21

Maybe 2008, 08?

SPEAKER_07 38:26

Yeah, 2009, actually.

SPEAKER_04 38:28

Yeah, 0809. Sound like that.

SPEAKER_07 38:29

He got with Alicia Keys.

SPEAKER_04 38:31

Look at that. I be no man.

SPEAKER_07 38:40

So I be no man. They started dating in 2008. So Alicia Keys and Swiss started dating in 2008. But he had this little girl. Okay, this is weird. China the fucking weird. Okay, he had this girl in 2009. So that means she was already pregnant.

SPEAKER_04 39:03

Either stepped out on Alicia or she was already pregnant.

SPEAKER_07 39:07

She was already pregnant, yeah. Something like that.

SPEAKER_04 39:10

So that could be a thing.

SPEAKER_07 39:12

So she accused the man of kidnapping girl, whatever. And I'm thinking it's as because the girl wants to be with her dad. I think it's a case that she just don't want to go back home.

SPEAKER_04 39:24

That could be.

SPEAKER_07 39:25

And I always thought she's a cool parent. I was looking into it, yeah. I was looking into it like, yo, why is that? Like, why would she not want to go back home? I looked into it and did a little digging on her online just to get a little background on Miss Sebastian.

SPEAKER_05 39:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 39:45

And and to not make my decision biased because I'm a Swiss Beats fan. I'm a big fan of him, his production, and all that shit, and the impact he did on the culture. Of course. So I didn't want to be biased. So zone, zone, zone, zone, zone. Zone, zone, zone, zone. You stupid for that. Yo, that's funny as hell. Showtime. Showtime? Alright. Can't you tell we fans? I did want to know what decision bias. And and and I'm a feminist. I'm all for women's rights. Yes, I know. I probably consider myself a restraint feminist, not like that aggressive feminist with the fucking, with the with the with the swoop haircut and wearing a flannel shirt and she met Aki with this stud face. Yeah, I'm not I'm not not.

SPEAKER_04 40:37

You're not one of Ray J's targets? No. No.

SPEAKER_07 40:41

Catch a former. I was raised by women and all that shit. No, no, no, none of that. No, no, no, no. From the back with it? No. Not at all. But looking into Shorty, she seemed a little gimpy.

SPEAKER_04 40:59

Tell me more.

SPEAKER_07 41:01

And I know I know gimpy means like I don't know. She seemed a little off. She seemed a little off. Tell me more. Like why do you feel like that? I did a okay. Okay, first of all, London, not London native, right? She's into like protest and anti-fascist shit. And and also she she also had a little music career.

SPEAKER_05 41:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 41:26

Or whatever. Don't got too much information on the protest and shit because every time I seen her protesters, she would speak another language. It was like Russian or some shit like that. So like I I don't really have a say so as to like the context as to what she was saying, and and and yada yada. And and yeah, I'm I'm not a journalist, I'm a fan. I'm not doing a lot of research. Fuck all that. So um talk about that. But then I I came across her attempts at trying to make music, and then all of it seemed off. Even though most of it was dated. But even if I like I put myself in that era or whatever, around that time, because most of that shit was old, even back then, it would have seemed like, nah, this shit seems off. Like something seems like the way she was. I gotta find a song. I'll play it, and then you tell me when you listen to the lyrics, like, okay. I think something's a little slow about her. I didn't mean to say slow. I didn't mean to say slow. I didn't mean to say slow. I didn't mean to say slow. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_04 42:29

Yeah, clean that shit out. She's touched.

SPEAKER_07 42:33

That don't sound right either.

SPEAKER_04 42:34

Alright, she's a little special.

SPEAKER_07 42:36

That also sounds a little off.

SPEAKER_04 42:41

She's unique. No.

SPEAKER_07 42:45

Does that mean?

SPEAKER_04 42:46

I'm trying to be discreet, but here we go. Found something? Taking the asshole out of me. No, I ain't found shit. I'm over here. I'm man.

SPEAKER_07 42:55

Oh listen to you, bruh. Oh, I thought I thought you had like input on this shit.

SPEAKER_04 43:00

No, um well, you basically covered all the bases. I just feel like this is not the first time that she speaks up about issues and strange situations with Swiss and Alicia. Just a couple of weeks ago, she was complaining and she was posting screenshots all types of shit of her going back and forth and reaching out to Alicia about the fact that they allow her and Swiss's child to smoke vapes, smoke weed, eat edibles, vape, give her burner phone.

SPEAKER_07 43:43

Casual shit pretty much.

SPEAKER_04 43:46

The materialistic shit, you know, all types of shit. The casual, the fun and and she did say that. She's like, you know, I tell my daughter to study, she wanna go and party, she wanna be at dad's house, you you know, 'cause he's the cool parent, but You know, like I think what it is is that she's trying to instill some some structure. She wants she's probably trying to show her, like, yo, this is not what life is all about. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like the the glitter and glamour and the gold. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, I'm trying to show you what it is to have that lifestyle in the pull mean hands, but also have some insight of what being humble is while having all of that at the same time.

SPEAKER_07 44:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 44:27

You know what I'm saying? That could be a thing and my fault. And I think the I think the argument is that they're not allowing her to do that because they get in the way with saying, Hey, we we we get what you're trying to do, but fuck all of that. We're gonna do what we want to do because this is the way that we operate. And if you don't like it, who really gives a fuck? We're just gonna continue doing whatever we want to do. Yeah, and I feel like that could be the mindset too, right? The the masculinity and him and him being the alpha and the male and the dad, the breadwinner, the everything. You know what I'm saying? I feel like it has a lot to do with that. A lot of take that into perspective and you look at it. You gotta look at it from different lens, you know what I'm saying? I think that's the social worker in me. Like I I look from different lens. You can be closed-minded in situations like this and dealing with families.

SPEAKER_01 45:26

I think that's another thing that's not my destination, time to come, eh?

SPEAKER_04 45:29

Oh, my bad. Nah. My bad. I don't know. I don't know. I just I don't know. I feel like it has a lot to do with that the diversity, the the culture, the the understanding of what the real purpose is and what we're here for. Right. You know what I'm saying? I don't know. Maybe that's what it is. And maybe, maybe there's truth to it, maybe there's not. We don't know. You know, but I ain't gonna lie, I feel like ever since this shit hit the fan with Diddy, more and more people were just coming out telling their stories and their experiences. And I feel like Cassie really that whistleblower shit, she was the one.

SPEAKER_07 46:19

She was a whistleblower, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 46:20

She was the one who set the tone. Because I don't think that shit with Kells was enough. You know what I'm saying? No, that shit was not enough because he still got them same females. Unfortunately, it wasn't enough. Jocelyn and the other one, what's the other one's name? You would think that'd be enough because he was dealing with like minors. Minors, under each, but but that's the thing, though. He groomed them, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, and and and that, and that's exactly what it is across the board.

SPEAKER_07 46:43

So it was more against their will, yeah. It'd have been more nastier for him. Sure.

SPEAKER_04 46:48

Yeah, it's unfortunate. What you was playing?

SPEAKER_07 46:51

That was her. Yeah, that was actually played her, yeah. She played Day by Day by Jonathan Sebastian. It came out three years ago.

SPEAKER_04 47:06

Jonathan Sebastian MultiVig.

SPEAKER_00 47:12

Worldwide. Every time I see a truth, stick it to this eye. All I need is trust, all I need is allow me to pull the name, stick into the light. All I need is trust, all I need to pull the night, this video.

SPEAKER_04 47:41

Look, that looks like Epstein.

SPEAKER_01 47:48

Nah nah why he look like Epstein. You know all those legends in the back were tough.

SPEAKER_07 47:56

For real?

SPEAKER_04 48:00

Yeah, because she ain't got the budget for that. No, just cut it off, please. Yes. So no.

SPEAKER_07 48:09

This just go back to my point.

SPEAKER_04 48:11

Listen, I I encourage everybody to, you know, chase their dreams and shit, but that's just not it.

SPEAKER_07 48:19

It ain't it, bro.

SPEAKER_04 48:20

That's just not it.

SPEAKER_07 48:21

So maybe she's a bug out, maybe. Maybe. I'm not taking nothing away from her.

SPEAKER_04 48:27

Like, I don't know. I don't know. It's it's her, it's her story, it's his story, and then that it's the truth.

SPEAKER_07 48:33

All her music sound like this. It not if it makes sense. And uh, I don't know. Maybe I'm not judging her based off the music alone.

SPEAKER_04 48:41

Where's she from? London?

SPEAKER_07 48:42

London. Yeah, she's from the UK. Like, I mean I'm not judging her based off the music alone, but I'm just like maybe they understand it.

SPEAKER_04 48:51

Maybe it's not for us to understand. And I think we had this conversation. Speaking plain English is nothing to it. No, no, no. You could speak plain English, but have a different like dialect. What do you mean? You can have a different way of interpretation. You know what I'm saying? Like, they like motherfuckers from the UK be talking some shit, and we be like, huh? Like, what is this nigga talking about? Like, it's just that crack a joke, you crack on, you know, you shit like that. Like, we don't know what these niggas is talking about. Like, what are you talking about, bro? Alright. I see what you're doing. I'm not, I'm not. I'm just saying, like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. It's okay. It's um whatever.

SPEAKER_07 49:35

I don't I don't know what to think of it.

SPEAKER_04 49:37

I'll pray for y'all family.

SPEAKER_07 49:39

Prayers up.

SPEAKER_04 49:40

You know, tomorrow's Ramadan and all that.

SPEAKER_07 49:43

Prayers up to the Dean family.

SPEAKER_04 49:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 49:46

That's his last name, Dean. I think it's his last name. Dean. If if if if she is a bug out, if if because we I don't know, like, cause because and and all this shit could be true. Your answer can be true, my answer can be true. Both could be true at the same fucking time. Who the fuck knows? Or neither one of them could be. But if she is a bug out, this just goes to prove that you fellas gotta stop sticking your wee weeds and and and everything with two legs, bro. No, for real, bro. For sure. Have some discipline. Set a bar for yourself and stop doing a limbo, my nigga. Like stop going, stop, stop going under your bar, bro. My goodness. Stop playing limbo, my nigga. Like, set it, have some discipline. Stop knocking everything down. You don't everything don't need to be knocked down, my nigga. For sure. That's in case she's fucked out.

SPEAKER_04 50:41

Just in case. Y'all got weights. Y'all niggas got more drama than we do. That's that is not true. Yeah, they do. They don't have money problems.

SPEAKER_07 50:52

Maybe it is nowadays. Maybe it is.

SPEAKER_04 50:53

They don't have money problems, but they got them other problems. They got a whole lot of them other problems. I mean, we just got money problems.

SPEAKER_07 51:01

Wait a generation. Everything else is alright. I feel like in the 90s, yeah, for sure. Anyway, we're talking about all this jail shit. All dysfunctional and shit. All of y'all. So uh mystical.

SPEAKER_04 51:18

Danger.

SPEAKER_07 51:19

Oh wow. Scared the shit out of me.

SPEAKER_04 51:22

He knows what he was saying in danger.

SPEAKER_07 51:24

After his 2020 arrest, uh Rapper Mystical is said to be sentenced to prison time for pleading guilty to third degree Rword charges.

SPEAKER_04 51:34

So do you think that he did it in the past when there was all those other cases open? Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 51:40

Absolutely. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 51:41

He's giving us a bad rap for Scorpios. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_07 51:44

Stop that. Look, a man's already a lifetime registered sex offender. He got convicted back in 03. He spent six years in prison for sexual battery and extortion of his then hairstylist. And now I'm I'm looking at a pattern here now. Like he he does a lot of sexual, aggressive, uh natured uh crimes.

SPEAKER_04 52:04

55 years old.

SPEAKER_07 52:05

Too old for the shit.

SPEAKER_04 52:07

55.

SPEAKER_07 52:08

Yeah. He's 55?

SPEAKER_04 52:10

Yeah. I thought he was a Scorpio. He's not. He's not a Scorpio. He's a he's a Libra. Oh, good. You live to see another day. You see that? It's always a Michaels. It's always a motherfucking Michaels.

SPEAKER_07 52:22

So Mystical was arrested back in 2022 after allegedly beating and R-wording a woman in his Louisiana home. He also took her car keys so she wouldn't leave the premises. He pleaded guilty a few days ago on March 17th for a lesser charge. Because he initially had got first degree Rward. And so once he pleaded guilty, it got it got brought down to third degree R word. So if convicted, he could face up to 20 years in prison. Now I don't I don't know. I never understood why any celebrity have to do shit like this.

SPEAKER_04 53:01

Yeah, like it's just why anybody feels the need to do anything like this. Like it's just it's this like there's something wrong with you. Wholeheartedly there's something wrong with you, bro. Yeah. Like I'm sorry, like why do people feel that they need they have they have the need to snatch the poom poom? Like you just you feel the need to say I want it, it's mine, it's not yours.

SPEAKER_07 53:26

And it gives me like this complex, like, like you're beneath me, so you should just like give that up. Yeah. Like I also feel like you ain't been mystical for a long time. Yeah, but I also been mystical back then, wasn't miss like wasn't as big as you know what I mean? Shake your ass.

unknown 53:47

Watch out.

SPEAKER_07 53:48

That was fire, but it wasn't like he was like a hove or something like that. Some of he was like, he wasn't a big rapper.

SPEAKER_04 53:54

Yeah, he was he was a local. I think he was more local, if if you want me to be honest. I felt like he was more on some new ones shit. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05 54:04

Running from behind.

SPEAKER_04 54:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 54:08

Yeah, I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_04 54:10

This is it's it's very sad. It's very sad. Cause it is. Yeah. It makes me think about all those songs back in the day, like the lyrics. Like, I knew there was something wrong when I was singing those songs. Singing along to those songs. I'm like, yo, son's not right, but I like it. It's catchy, whatever. But now as an adult, I listen to these songs and I'm like, yo, y'all niggas is dirty, y'all ain't shit. Like, what's going on? I mean, yeah, we we all all everybody.

SPEAKER_07 54:44

Everybody back then was a little raunchy. But that was before cancel culture and all that shit, man. Now I feel like you you have that you have that opinion because of cancer culture. Yeah. Whether you know it or not. Cause I feel like if you were this age and it was like motherfucking 2005, you wouldn't say none of this shit. Nobody would. Yeah. That was regular. Oh, I ain't it. But like we strained away from the fucking topic. So this guy, he managed to get his sentence reduced from first degree to third degree, just because he pled, just because he gave a guilty plea. And in return, the prosecution also decided not to pursue the other nine charges that were pented against him, which included, but not limited to false imprisonment, robbery, and battery domestic strangulation, etc. Yeah, like I said, him wanna like be in control and be aggressive and be sexual in nature. I feel like there is a pattern because this is some shit that he did back in 06. Was that 06? Is that 06? 03, my bad.

SPEAKER_04 56:06

It's just way too much going on. Yeah. It's just way too much going on. This shit gotta stop.

SPEAKER_07 56:12

This man is for sure a habitual taker. He just take everything. He's taken. He's a goddamn Liam Neeson. Just taking everything, man.

SPEAKER_04 56:25

Yo, I feel like everything else that we discussed previously, it don't really need much attention. But what I am gonna hone in on before we get out of here I'm I wanna send my regards to the to the I wanna send my regards to all the victims. All the survivors. You know what I'm saying? Because I feel like I don't even like calling people, especially women or men, because even children, you know? Anybody who ever survived anything as traumatic as such, right? Right. You're a survivor. You're not a victim. You still here to tell your story. Right, right. And and and and I commend people who do who take those steps, you know what I'm saying? Like I treat my clients as such. I let them know, like, yo, you're not you're not a victim. Straight up. You you was able to live to to to see another day and tell and tell your story.

SPEAKER_07 57:21

Yeah, that's a fact.

SPEAKER_04 57:21

You know what I'm saying? So like I just feel like 100%, you know, is it's distasteful, it's it's saddening, it's it's fucked up, but at the same token, it's just like I just feel like with certain individuals, like and maybe maybe the person, because I don't even know who these people are, right? Like maybe don't know the about these people's reputations and backgrounds and what they're known of or for. I just my my message to to the world is be careful, folks. I think we have to take more caution when we engage people that we don't know from a can of paint, even people that we know. Even people that we know, because it'd be the first they be the first ones to do you anything. Motherfuckers that's the closest to you, you know what I'm saying? Like so you you just gotta you gotta just expect the unexpected, keep your eyes open, keep your ears open, do less talking, read the room. If you don't know how to read the room, just sit back and watch while everybody else operates.

SPEAKER_07 58:30

Don't live in paranoia. Nah.

SPEAKER_08 58:31

Be but be wary.

SPEAKER_04 58:32

But be but be wary, be vigilant, you know. Be be aware. Yep. You know what I'm saying? Self-awareness is is is important. Absolutely. It's it's it's imperative that people learn to start exercising that because yo, bro, like this shit is is it's getting out of hand. That's bars, bro. Ain't gonna hold you. I ain't gonna hold you. A lot of this shit is getting out of hand.

SPEAKER_07 58:56

Ain't we gonna hold you? That's fucking bars.

SPEAKER_04 58:59

But yeah, you know, I'll send my regards to those who were impacted from mysticals, mischievous and disgusting as behaviors. Yeah. For some reason, and before I even go into another phase. I know I once said that I'm able to separate man from the art, art from the man or whomever.

SPEAKER_07 59:30

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 59:34

But it makes me not want to listen to that shit no more. Because it's like at this point, bro, you you enjoy doing this shit now. Yeah. Like I'm convinced. I'm convinced. And and I'm not saying it because I'm a female.

SPEAKER_07 59:48

You went back and spun the block.

SPEAKER_04 59:50

Yeah, like you you you clearly ain't learned your lesson. There's something mentally wrong with you. You're sick.

SPEAKER_07 59:58

And in my opinion, Mystical and even have music worth spinning the block for any fucking way.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:05

No. So you can the nigga be looking cracked out and everything.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:09

He can rot.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:10

He looked cracked out and everything. His son looked like he ain't no better. He looked like another one.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:15

He could definitely rot, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:16

Anyway, that's neither here there. Yo, shout out to the victims, survivors. All that, all that. Whether you know, you were affected or impacted by him, or just in general. Anybody experiencing stuff like that, you know what I'm saying? I I highly and strongly suggest you know you reach out to your most nearby, closest resources out there in your communities. I don't know. You could reach out to a hotline. Oh fucking. No, I'm serious. Like 800-656-4673. If you've if you've been in those type of situations, again, 800-656-4673. Gotta spread you gotta spread it and raise awareness. Yeah, well, there you have it. Okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:15

Call that number if you're feeling it, man, for sure. Or what else we got?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:26

Angela Simmons. Oh lordy. And this is the last person I'm gonna talk about tonight. Oh lordy. I'm over it. With the stupidity. I'm over it. Yeah, I don't know who told her that it was okay to do spoken words, sing over a track, rap over a track, talk over a track.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:54

I cannot find a song.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:57

Oh, I thought you said the song was fire. I was about to say that's not what you said ten hours ago. Maybe a little. I can't find a song. It was more like 12 hours ago, but either way, you don't have to find it. Everybody heard it. We're not jacking it. You need to go talk to your pops, read a scripture or two.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:20

First of all, your pops was on like hit and her pops is what's his guy's name again?

SPEAKER_04 1:02:28

Her father is Run.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:29

No, all her father is Run. Her uncle is Russell. Her uncle's Russell. I'm getting it confused. Russ. Bad. But like JoJo ain't tell you, and you see how that worked out for him? I think she got her talent more for my uncle than her father. No bullshit. Like, don't do it. You said she got what? She got her talent more for my uncle than her father. She don't. And I'm using the term talent very loosely. She's not a she's not an artist, is what I'm trying to say. No, I know that.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:01

I know, but this, but this is not the way to put it out there.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:06

It's not. Yeah, correct it. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:08

It's not. Because I just feel like if you're gonna do a spoken word, just go do a speak easy of some shit. You know what I'm saying? Go do something else in the in that room.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:17

Like what is that when everybody just fucking just just just force feeding everybody the bullshit? Like, we just fucking did this shit last episode with Jack Harlow. Like, nigga, you gotta ease this shit in, bro. Like, you can't just fucking just give that shit to us. Like, like, no, we didn't expect that at all. Like Angela Simmons, like, you have no, you have one lyrical bone in your fucking body.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:40

I think she thought she was gonna get brownie points just for having kiss on the shit.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:43

I thought she was gonna have brownie points because of her name.

unknown 1:03:46

No.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:47

That ain't gonna fucking work. Like, nobody gives a fuck who fucking daughter you are.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:51

Oh, I don't think that has anything to do with that, because I'm sorry. Kiss was not gonna help that song at all. No. No matter how nice and incredible the man is, it didn't do anything.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:04

I consider Kiss a local rap. And I love Kiss. You love Kiss. I love Kiss to death. But he ain't like a nigga. I thought it was him for a second. I got scared for a minute. I got like, bro, when I lived at Yonkers, I used to see Kiss in the fucking lounge all the time. When niggas is doing that, like they're not really trying to, you know, you know what I mean? Like, I'm not saying he don't take his shit serious. Point is like even having him on that fucking song was not gonna help you at all. And if you was if this is the lane you were trying to like go into, like I feel like you should have just like prepped us for it. You know, some story, some Instagram stories here and there, uh uh some small shows and like smaller venues here. I don't know. Just all of a sudden you just come out with a song and you're like, yeah, fuck it. I've been waiting on, I've been sitting on this for years, I would just want to do it now. Niggas ain't had no clue that you want to be an artist. Even when Run's house was on TV. Niggas ain't had no clue.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:02

Even when he was fucking with your Gatti.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:05

Yeah. Yo, 100%. You was fucking with a whole whole a whole record mogul, like a whole record label mogul, and you ain't even attempting to do this shit then. They're not dating no more, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:05:17

No. I don't know. Right, yeah. That's been over with. Done. Done dada. Word. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Anyway. So that's that. Just just stop. Go go go to the city and go do a spoken word or something. I don't fucking know. That's it. Speak easy. They got a cup, they got a whole lot of hot spots downtown.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:41

That's it. Do you think? I'm gonna do a quick quick quick album review. 21. Todalasan dropped his EP Girl Music Volume 1. Just want to tap into it real quick. Alright, let's get into this project. Girl Music Volume 1. I'm gonna say this right now. This is not an album, it's The mood. It's six songs, 17 minutes. It's Todd basically saying, I know exactly what lane I dominate in, and I'm gonna stay right here. This shit gave me windows down at 1 a.m. Texting somebody you shouldn't even miss.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:15

Nobody has enough.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:17

Dim lights, bad decisions type of music, man. And the crazy part. This is Todd going back to his roots because I feel like when he was playing, he's playing around with Ye for a little bit. He was like really tuning into the rap shit. But I feel like this is going him going back to his roots, like the real RB vibes, not that hip-hop shit he was on lately. Got Ronald Isley, like he got Brandy on the album, my nigga. And I'm gonna yeah, I'm gonna tap into that, man. This is where Todd's shine at, though. So I'm gonna be real though. I also want to is something I want to talk into in like next episode. Todd Dollarson is he's he's been one of the most reliable hook artists of all time. Oh yeah, 100%. I I I want to do something next episode where we kind of like match up the best hook artists of all time. You can do that. Like Ty Dollarson, T Pain, Nate Dog, them motherfuckers, all type of shit. Like, yeah, I want to compare songs. But anyway, Ty, he's comfortable, he's confident, he's back in his natural habitat. You're gonna get like the smooth pruning, it's gonna be layered harmonies, it's gonna be like effortless melodies, all type of shit. The features on here, he got Brandy Sliding, he got Ronald Isley on here with the OG element, he got Leon Talmas adding that modern RB touch. Yeah, the line alone, the lineup alone, it's just tell you what type of time you're on with the RB shit. But here's why I gotta keep it real though. This is this is the this is this is great vibes, but it's is there's no substance on his on his project.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:48

No, not at all.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:51

It sounds amazing, but like it's like it's the same tie. There's no moments sticking out. All the tracks some of the tracks hit, but um But the same thing I love him for is the same thing I is also his downfall. Like he's he's playing too much into he's playing too much into He's just safe in what he's doing. Like it's it's just too much familiarity with it. Like it's he's it's the same old Ty Dallas sign. And I know I just said that he just came from the rap shit with Ye and he came back into the shit, but I feel like he could have transitioned to this RB into another level.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:26

I just feel like he could do that though.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:28

Yeah, he could. I'm giving a shit a seven and a half though.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:35

Seven and a half? Yeah, I'm giving a seven. I'll give it a seven. Calm seven.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:38

I'm giving it a seven and a half.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:39

I'll give it a calm seven.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:40

It's it's it's good, it's premium background music at most. But it don't got like the room shaking though, that's for sure. My favorite song on here happened to be Bad Bitch Alert, actually.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:52

What's yours?

SPEAKER_04 1:08:54

Mine is the one with Ronald.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:56

That's what the first song, I think.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:58

Yes, the first track.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:00

Nah, that shit do got like a I don't know. It was nobody got to know.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:03

It was giving some real nostalgic vibes for me. Nobody has no happy feeling like keeping it ghetto. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:22

Nah, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:09:24

Take your girl, take yourself.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:27

Nah, you're right though.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:29

Yo, it brought me back, you heard? Like, I was like, I appreciate this. Oh shit. I appreciate it because now I'd say nobody has to know me.

SPEAKER_09 1:09:49

He can't fuck you like I do that.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:51

That's the first song on the on the on the on the tape.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:55

I love it.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:02

I did like attention with Brandy though. That shit was flawed too. My shit's bad, but bad bitch alert. I don't know why I went that route, but I like that song. Bad bitch alert. But um, yeah, that's all I got for that. That's all I got for that. That's really all I got for that.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:20

So, um, looking for like fucking out uh outro music. I got poodles and rabbits and shit. Open the door. I love you. Fun money, how the table's time. It's time.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:54

Yo, um but and before we get out of here, right? Um rest in power to the beautiful Kiki Shepard from the Showtime at the Apollo. So if you remember watching that as a kid, she was the shorty on stage, always next to the host with like a bright smile, not usually saying anything, just showing graceful presence, most of our first crush as well. Uh, she passed away due to a massive heart attack. So pray prayers up to her and her family. And uh please take care of yourselves, man. Health is wealth. Keep spending every day like it's your last, and it will be eventually. For sure. Alright, family, that's a wrap on this ride. I'm gonna skip all that and get straight to the uh three pieces of advice. Cause fuck all that. Don't come back in the mud. Always show up and show out. Don't let doubt cloud your judgment and never let emotions drive your decisions.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:54

Ring ring ring. Let the phone stop. I don't want you calling me no more. So it's funny, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:10

Mmm, with the vocals, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:12

She be helpful, you count the three. So do just.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:16

You know what? Um, and I'ma also tell y'all in a future episode why I'ma drop the intro from here on out. I'm not gonna lie. But bear with us, we're coming along and we're learning as we go.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:27

Nah, nah, nah. Stop knocking. Don't come knocking at my door. Don't you come knocking?

SPEAKER_07 1:12:35

I'm gonna get a shit off real quick.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:37

Ring, ring, ring. Let the phone stop.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:41

I don't want you calling me knocking off.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:43

Uh-huh. Hold on, come on, shut her hand. Okay. I used to be so gone. You were someone I can lean on. My life supports the sun.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:53

And I thought I couldn't breathe. When you used to leave.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:58

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:59

I see you with your clean ball. Wanna tell me stay home.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:07

Like you got a fucking ring gold. So watch it, we'll be chillin'. Good night. Good night. I'm my things for a flight. Hey, you gotta place in this fixed up night. Hey, bitch, so don't come knocking at my door. I got a couple niggas.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:23

Come around four. So lazy bars, nigga. Hey. Lazy bars. Nigga. So yeah, I'ma stop. I'ma stop. I'ma stop. That was lazy bars, man. Shout out to Monica. Shout out to Monica, but that was Lazy Bars, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:41

Ring, ring, ring. Ring, ring, ring.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:46

I'm a little chicken, me no more. This is Zayda Ways and Confo. I'm emoji. We signing off, man. Catch y'all on the next frequency.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:27

What she said? I don't want you calling me no more.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:37

Hey, this is Monica. Leave a number at it.