Holiday Hot Takes: Part 2 🎄🦃🎃

We're back to finish what we started!

In Part 2 of our holiday rankings, we're diving into Thanksgiving, Halloween, Christmas, the Fourth of July, Memorial Day, and more. From family traditions and childhood memories to holiday stress and faith perspectives, we're sharing our honest opinions on what makes each holiday great—and what might land it lower on the list.

Grab a coffee and join us for a laid-back conversation filled with laughter, nostalgia, a few controversial rankings, and plenty of holiday hot takes.

☕ Pull up a chair, grab your favorite drink, and spend some time with us.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Welcome to the Poored Hearts Podcast. We're talking about being grandparents without looking like grandparents with uh furniture.

SPEAKER_02 0:09

Yeah, we ain't doing the cup holders and the recliners and the little pocket friggin' magazines.

SPEAKER_00 0:14

You just said you were doing the recliners.

SPEAKER_02 0:16

Well we are, but not the cup holders.

SPEAKER_05 0:17

But not the threshold of cup holders and middle consoles.

SPEAKER_00 0:21

If be a grandpa, but don't look like a grandpa. And the cup holders are that threshold of being of looking like grandpa.

SPEAKER_04 0:29

It almost makes you lookable.

SPEAKER_05 0:32

It's like a movie theater.

SPEAKER_04 0:33

Like it really makes you look lazy. Yeah. Like it gives the real name of like layout.

SPEAKER_05 0:38

Yeah, once I'm in it and I'm reclined, like I don't want to get up again. Have you seen the episode of Friends? Like where they don't get up? Oh yeah. Yeah, it's like that. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 0:48

Are you guys still watching Friends? I have like a couple episodes left.

SPEAKER_05 0:52

Oh, it's sad.

SPEAKER_02 0:52

So sad. Yeah, so sad.

SPEAKER_05 0:56

The very last scene is like there's an improv in it. That's all I'm gonna say.

SPEAKER_02 1:00

I'm already like, I'm not sh- I'm not like Clark was like, Do you know how many episodes you have left? I was like, I'm not looking. Like, I'm scared, I'm just gonna let it end.

SPEAKER_00 1:07

So for sure you'll be having a not knowing if you're watching the last episode or not. Yeah, I need to know if this is the last episode.

SPEAKER_04 1:14

Yeah, I don't like that either. I actually scan over when I start new series to see like how long the season is, and usually it'll say final episode, and then I like to know, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:25

But some I would do that too, but sometimes there are spoilers in the episode titles or pictures, and that drives me nuts. The one where they all die. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 1:33

And friends like tells you what's happened.

SPEAKER_05 1:35

Yeah, yeah. Well, I think the last one's just called like the final one.

SPEAKER_02 1:39

Oh, that's nice.

SPEAKER_05 1:39

Because everything is like the one with or whatever. So I think they just call it the final one.

SPEAKER_04 1:44

Well, welcome back.

SPEAKER_05 1:45

Welcome back.

SPEAKER_04 1:46

We took a little break. People were asking about us. That's good. That's good news. People were coming in saying what's there hasn't I think it was like a two-week break. So we'll release this one.

SPEAKER_02 2:00

Well, I'm glad the people are loving the chatter. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that is.

SPEAKER_00 2:05

It's good that people aren't requesting us to stop. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:10

I don't know. They were like, When is the next one? Clark kind of just needs to like go away. Um, but we did have some feedback. Um, someone told us to it's confusing that they don't know who we are. And so I'm like, you know what? We're not gonna change the way we do it. You're just gonna have to keep listening so that you know our voices.

SPEAKER_05 2:31

Yeah, they said it would be nice, which I understand if because there's no introduction for who is who.

SPEAKER_00 2:38

I see.

SPEAKER_05 2:38

So they're like, I don't know who's what.

SPEAKER_00 2:41

Well, let's just I mean it'll take five seconds. True. This voice speaking is Clark Beckham.

SPEAKER_02 2:46

This is Chanley Beckham.

SPEAKER_05 2:49

Lindsay.

SPEAKER_04 2:49

Oh my god. Okay. Hello. This is Lindsay.

SPEAKER_05 2:53

And this is Anthony. Are we all Sandra? And we are different. I just wanted to see if you guys would say something.

SPEAKER_04 2:59

We are the Poor Hearts. That's what I was thinking, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 3:03

But um and this is the Poor Hearts Podcast.

SPEAKER_04 3:09

Welcome back. What's been going on? The last episode we did, we talked about it. We ended it on the holidays. Oh yeah. We didn't finish on the holiday. Did we finish? We didn't finish. I think Chanley and I needed to score. But let's do it together. Well, after we're going to be able to do that, do we need to finish out?

SPEAKER_05 3:29

I forgot what holiday we were. I don't think we got past the summer. Like, I think we ended on Easter maybe.

SPEAKER_00 3:34

Yeah, we didn't get very far. Like it took a lot longer than I thought.

SPEAKER_05 3:37

Yeah. Because I'm not as cheerful as I thought.

SPEAKER_00 3:41

I have our goals that we did in the beginning of the year. Things you want to leave leave behind and things you want to take with you. I wrote down. We did, and I just wrote it all down to see if by the end of the year we did it.

SPEAKER_02 3:52

Oh, okay. Nice.

SPEAKER_00 3:53

Um, but no, I don't have.

SPEAKER_02 3:55

I just remember that Anthony was not a fan of New Year's. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:58

Yeah. I think he put like F.

SPEAKER_02 4:00

And we talked about Oh, Valentine's Day because I don't like it because we're never like celebrating our home. We're always like traveling.

SPEAKER_05 4:08

Just work, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:09

And then yeah, we did Easter, I think, which is kind of like the same for us. We're always traveling on Easter, which is a blessing to have great gigs for those holidays. I don't know where we stopped at.

SPEAKER_05 4:19

I think I think we stopped on Easter.

SPEAKER_04 4:20

Can you believe Christmas is like right around the corner?

SPEAKER_05 4:23

Heck yeah. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 4:28

Oh yeah. So should we do our scores real quick?

SPEAKER_00 4:33

Yeah, I just I just searched the top um 10 holidays by cultural significance. Maybe we can just fly through America.

SPEAKER_03 4:44

And then let's talk about aliens.

SPEAKER_00 4:46

America. Um put these quarter of the date. Okay, so we already did um New Year's, we did Valentine's Day, we we did Easter. Pretty sure, yeah. Um Memorial Day.

SPEAKER_04 5:08

I like Memorial Day. What did you guys do on this Memorial Day? Wait, it's one through ten.

SPEAKER_00 5:13

I just asked for ten most.

SPEAKER_02 5:15

Well, I think we're rating it. Oh, A through. No, it's S tier. Oh, which is high.

SPEAKER_00 5:20

S tier. So S tier is the highest, like superior. Okay. Then it's like a grading scale under that. So A would be under S tier, but A. Then B C D F.

SPEAKER_04 5:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 5:31

So F would be I hate it, D like not a fan, C is average, B's good, A is awesome, and S tier is like greatest ever.

SPEAKER_04 5:37

Okay. What's under S?

SPEAKER_00 5:39

New Year's.

SPEAKER_04 5:40

No, it's A.

SPEAKER_00 5:42

S? A. And then it's the grading scale.

SPEAKER_04 5:45

It's like A.

SPEAKER_00 5:47

What's A? Memorial Day?

SPEAKER_04 5:52

Yes. So it's cool, but it's not like yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:56

I think it's I think it's A to. I think it's just important that, and I like all of the men in my family were in like every US war, like of all time. Uh in the history, I guess, of America, America. Um, but it's important for us to remember that there are people all over the world that want to take away what we have, and they want to come here and they want to hurt us, and they are incapable of that because of the military. Not just the military today, but the military for the past 250 years. And men that um paid the ultimate sacrifice couldn't give any more than they did by giving their entire life and family to this, and that's why we can hang out in a free world, free society. And why a lot of the rest of the world can too. Yeah. You know? Yeah. So I think that's why it's an A for me.

SPEAKER_04 6:58

Yeah, only make me feel bad now. So I'll give it an A tier. You said A. No, I said whatever was beneath the A tier.

SPEAKER_00 7:04

You said what is beneath the S. Oh. And then you said A.

SPEAKER_04 7:07

It's A tier. I mean it's an A tier. What did we do on Memorial Day?

SPEAKER_05 7:11

We stayed at the house and I watched war movies.

SPEAKER_04 7:14

Oh yeah, we watched more movies. He watched war movies on this. Yeah, you watched it. We were backstage at a show at 1 o'clock.

SPEAKER_05 7:21

But yeah, that took us like because we started that a little bit before. I think that took us like two days, yeah, maybe three to finish. Good movie. Because it's it's kind of long.

SPEAKER_00 7:29

It's so long.

SPEAKER_05 7:30

Yeah. I mean it's a it's yeah, it's long, but by the time we get to it, like, we have like an hour, and then I start nodding, nodding off. And then she's like, turn it off, you're not watching it.

SPEAKER_04 7:40

I know he's like, I'm like, oh yeah, let's put a movie on so you can fall asleep. He's like, I never fall asleep during war movies.

SPEAKER_05 7:46

Yeah, go to sleep. But there's some where I'm like, I'm gonna put on a war movie to fall asleep. Yeah. That's wild.

SPEAKER_00 7:55

Well, some people have like brown noise to help them go to sleep. Anthony just turns on D-Day sounds. Yeah, excuse me. War zone out.

SPEAKER_04 8:06

What's the next one?

SPEAKER_00 8:08

Um Independence Day, so 4th of July.

SPEAKER_04 8:12

Chan.

SPEAKER_02 8:13

Um, yeah, I think it's like a B tier. I think it's really fun. Usually off work, we're on the lake, shooting fireworks, family time, grilling burgers.

SPEAKER_05 8:23

But you know what the holiday is for.

SPEAKER_02 8:25

Oh, July 4th, or independence.

SPEAKER_05 8:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 8:28

Don't test her. Yeah. Put her on the spot like that. Well.

SPEAKER_05 8:34

Well, it's like on Memorial Day, everything that we see, like, or I saw on the internet was don't tell people, have a great weekend, or how was your extra long weekend? Like, remember what the holiday is for.

SPEAKER_02 8:45

Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_05 8:46

It's not like, yes, we get an extra day off of work, and yes, like we take advantage of it and like have fun and all that, but remember the reason why we're celebrating. And it's not, it's it's it's it's kind of a sad holiday, Memorial Day. And so that's why I always ask people too, like, Independence Day, like, all right, but do you even know why we're actually celebrating? Right.

SPEAKER_04 9:06

And because you do the same thing around Christmas.

SPEAKER_05 9:08

Yeah, some kids don't really know like why what Fourth of July means or who we're independent from. I mean, it's some like college kids don't even know. A lot of a lot of holidays are like that though. Yeah. Well, I'm just talking about these two.

SPEAKER_02 9:20

Yeah. Yeah, marriage to a history major.

SPEAKER_00 9:22

That one should not be one of those holidays that people don't like know. Memorial, I understand how it's confusing. Like, is that for veterans or is that for like people that have died or or whatever? But yeah, 4th of July, Independence Day. I would give it a I would give it a B tier as well.

SPEAKER_04 9:39

Isn't that about the holiday about like the aliens?

SPEAKER_00 9:43

Great movie. Great movie. Gosh, that's a good movie.

SPEAKER_04 9:47

That would have been a great segue to the next subject.

SPEAKER_00 9:50

It would have. But we can still use it. It'll just be a callback. I'd give it a B tier because um, yes, I'm glad that we separated and the independence, but it doesn't stay on the same tier as Memorial Day because Memorial Day to me represents more, although you could argue Memorial Day never happens. Like all of those battles never happen if we'd never rebel against England, but um it's also always so hot, and you're obligated to go see the fireworks. New Year's Eve, you're not really obligated, like we don't stay up till midnight, it's not a big deal. Fourth of July, like you have to go out, you have it's always hot and the traffic's crazy and it's humid. And yeah, that's why it's a B. B. Could even be C, but because of what it means, it's a B tier. Yeah. The festivities, D.

SPEAKER_02 10:43

You don't like you don't like the barbecue and well, it's because every year for 4th of July, we go to my parents' like boat, houseboat, and they were all put off on an island with like 20 other houseboats. Oh gosh. In that case, festivities are out.

SPEAKER_00 10:59

No, it's still D.

SPEAKER_02 11:00

And everybody's just cutting them chicken.

SPEAKER_00 11:03

And there's no AC. And there's no AC, you gotta go to bed.

SPEAKER_02 11:07

I mean, there is AC, but the generator is not on during the day. Because it's expensive to run a generator all day on a boat.

SPEAKER_00 11:13

Right, when that's not as big of a deal, but sometimes it breaks. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:17

Okay. But swarm by that.

SPEAKER_00 11:19

You don't have any um you don't have well, you don't know anybody there. They're all they're all drinking, and drinking's fine, but when you're around everyone and all they do for fun is drink, and you don't, yeah, and you and you're just like all they do is just sit in the water and like BS all day. It's tiring. Floats. And and you don't have any reception.

SPEAKER_04 11:42

I really hope they're not listening to this podcast.

SPEAKER_00 11:44

You don't have any Wi-Fi. It's tough. Yeah. Yeah. If you're into that, great. But if you're not, like me, Clark who's speaking.

SPEAKER_04 11:52

I think I hear a lot of like well, being from California, going on a boat out was always wonderful because the weather was great. You don't really fry. But I hear I've heard a lot about people feeling stuck and like getting overwhelmingly hot, and it's never typically fun. I guess it's something you only do for like an hour or two and then you come back in.

SPEAKER_02 12:13

Well, also, like the lakes around here, they're all really shallow and they're kind of dirty and like murky and they get warm really fast. If you travel out, like out of the city, like we go to Dale Hollow, which is two hours away, and it's like the deepest, one of the deepest lakes, like in Middle Tennessee. Or in Tennessee, middle, maybe that's scary.

SPEAKER_00 12:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:33

But yeah, it's super clean though. It's clear, it's cool water, so it's a little nicer.

SPEAKER_05 12:38

It's better than the ocean.

SPEAKER_02 12:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 12:40

Have you been on a uh boat in the ocean?

SPEAKER_05 12:42

Terrifying.

SPEAKER_02 12:43

Um, when I was a kid, like we went like a deep sea fishing thing, but that's it.

SPEAKER_05 12:49

Labor Day. I don't understand Labor Day. I don't get it here.

SPEAKER_04 12:53

Yeah, if I mean is it for the workers?

SPEAKER_00 12:56

Like, yeah, maybe if I was like, I don't know, a part of a labor union and like blue-collar type thing, it would mean more to me. Um it causes so much confusion. The idea of like all of I don't know. Again, if I was like a construction worker or like I think Labor Day is celebrating the people who work so hard to build our infrastructure. Yeah. Question mark. I don't know. Makes sense. If that's the case, like cool.

SPEAKER_03 13:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:28

But I just get mad that everything's closed.

SPEAKER_05 13:30

Yeah, actually. That's what I get mad at. See, that's my thing with like New Year's, New Year's Eve, and New Year's Day.

SPEAKER_04 13:35

You have to stay in your house because everything's closed. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:38

Uh things are open. More things are open on the next one. We're open. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:42

We're open on Thanksgiving, aren't you?

SPEAKER_05 13:44

Always open. Yeah, we'll do it for like half the day. Yeah, on Thanksgiving, we'll open for like half the day. Because Thanksgiving's like a lunch and after event. Yeah. So like we'll open for the coffee.

SPEAKER_04 13:55

And it's a great day for the country.

SPEAKER_05 13:56

Yeah, and people will come in and they'll just like they'll get their coffee on their way to the travel you know and stuff. So we'll open for like eight. 8 a.m. to 11. Yeah. Something small.

SPEAKER_00 14:08

This will be good.

SPEAKER_05 14:09

Halloween. I used to like it. I don't like it anymore. That's like six, seven years going on of not liking it.

SPEAKER_04 14:17

It's like how many years? I just wish that it wasn't just didn't have like bad vibes to it. It could be fun. But it could be untainted.

SPEAKER_02 14:30

I don't know. I think there's aspects that are fun. Like I think dressing up and like a costume is fun. I think the idea of like we all walk around and eat candy, like that's fun. But it's like the demonic and the skulls and the death. And that's why I rate it at F minus. We used to have self-f minus.

SPEAKER_00 14:48

I used to love Halloween until I felt like I wasn't supposed to anymore. Yeah. Yeah. Like it felt like it got really like I'm like I'm down with I think there is a like sect of society that is down with the demonic and occult that really use Halloween to, I don't know, to do that stuff. And I think everyone can disagree with that. But if like when we have kids, if my five-year-old wants to dress up as a ninja, I'm gonna let him dress up as a ninja. And if there's like an event, like a church event and there's candy, we're gonna go. Yeah. There's trick-or-treating and it's a good place. That's when I've got annoyed where it's like any type of celebration of Halloween is satanic. Yeah. It's like, ah, that's too far for me. I still enjoy, I still enjoy Halloween if you just don't, yeah, I don't know, do the satanic stuff. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 15:50

I like the yeah, I don't I like the fall festivities. It's like the fall stuff.

SPEAKER_04 15:55

It is an introduction, it does give you that feeling of like, yes, I this means fall's coming and the holidays are coming. I do like that. Like it's the end of summer and then you're entering into fall. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:06

I love horror films. All the scary movies.

SPEAKER_04 16:10

No, he does.

SPEAKER_00 16:10

So all the scary movies come back on like TV and that's why I don't like Halloween.

SPEAKER_05 16:15

I don't like the I used to like Halloween and then I got saved. And then I was like, yeah, I don't because I felt convicted like I shouldn't enjoy Halloween because it's putting like the fear aspect of of like of Halloween, the spirit of fear. Like I don't I don't like that. And that's what I would do for Halloween is like terrorize people. And like I yeah, once you get saved, I'm like, that's not interesting anymore.

SPEAKER_04 16:41

It's one of those things too where it's like it's your own business if that's what you want. I don't mind it. But um I think that it's weird the whole thing of taking your and I didn't think about this till later, but like walking around homes and getting candy. Yeah, now I really feel like it's unsafe.

SPEAKER_06 16:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 16:59

Before I didn't, and we had a we had so much fun. But where we came, where we moved from, our neighborhood was like a Hollywood movie. Like it it looked like it would belong our neighborhood would have been like a people go all out. But um now that I think about it, like where we w we're walking around neighborhoods eating food from strangers.

SPEAKER_02 17:19

Yeah, it's pretty crazy.

SPEAKER_04 17:20

Yeah. So that's weird, but I don't I don't even think about it to be honest. Yeah. It could be really fun. Yeah, it could be.

SPEAKER_05 17:28

And then it's like and we're we're past that. Like we don't have little kids. Right. We're just not in that environment or season of life anymore to where it's like you know, when you when you have like toddlers or elementary school kids, you have a season of birthday parties and all of these like events that you have to go to, and we don't have to do that no more, so we don't have that like obligation.

SPEAKER_04 17:50

We were but we were like during Halloween, we were so intentional about her costume, like we would deck her out and we put weave in her hair, and we would I would work hard on her costume. It was like a thing that we planned.

SPEAKER_05 18:01

Never a Halloween store bought costume, like I was always made it, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 18:07

And so they were so cool, all of her costumes, and then like 10 hit and we stopped, and then she stopped, but so yeah. So we were actually really into it, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 18:19

But um and then conviction hit, so we just stopped.

SPEAKER_04 18:24

We uh you actually made your first move on me at a Halloween party. Hey probably.

SPEAKER_05 18:28

That's what I'm saying. Before that party? That was a fun party. Optimistic. Man, that was a really fun party.

SPEAKER_04 18:34

That's funny. I got wasted.

SPEAKER_00 18:37

So maybe that's where the conviction has nothing to do with Halloween.

SPEAKER_04 18:41

And Halloween could just be like you just get trashed. That's my thing.

SPEAKER_05 18:45

Well, that's what every holiday was. Like before, yeah. Before I gotta say everything was just like a reason to party.

SPEAKER_04 18:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 18:53

Forget the reason about the holiday, it's a reason to party.

SPEAKER_04 18:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 18:56

That's all that holidays were.

SPEAKER_04 18:58

Or change me.

SPEAKER_05 18:59

And the day after is just a day to recover. That's when you get to like chill and relax, is the day after when you get that day after holiday off of work.

SPEAKER_04 19:08

So you then you get to eat all the candy. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 19:13

Um, Thanksgiving.

SPEAKER_05 19:14

I love Thanksgiving. Oh, I make jokes now about it. Once I found out I'm Native American, now I hear to make jokes now.

SPEAKER_00 19:22

Did we tear Halloween? We didn't really tear. I'll put it, I'll put it at B. Okay. But it and I put it above um Labor Day. Yeah, Labor Day's an F. No, I'll just say I'll put it at B. Festivities, I put it above Fourth of July. Meaning, of course not. I don't put it above Fourth of July. But strictly festivities.

SPEAKER_05 19:42

Because of what you guys do on the Fourth of July.

SPEAKER_00 19:44

I just don't like it either.

SPEAKER_04 19:45

So you're traumatized.

SPEAKER_00 19:47

If I was traumatized, I'd put it at another.

SPEAKER_02 19:49

Yeah, you got it so bad out of the boat all weekend. It's not even waiting. I'm like, I'm waiting at the time here.

SPEAKER_00 19:56

Festivity. It's not about the boat. It's about my whole life. Anything that we're going to do for 4th of July, it's hot, I'm sweating. I don't like we see the fireworks are cool and then there's traffic, and then we don't know when the fireworks are over. And there's more smoke than there is like sparkle. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 20:13

We like to barbecue and just load off fireworks at the end of the night and sit outside when it's cool. We stay home. But we stay home.

SPEAKER_05 20:20

That sounds more fun.

SPEAKER_04 20:21

Yeah, I think you would like hang hang with us until we're gonna hang with July.

SPEAKER_05 20:25

Yeah, and the food.

SPEAKER_04 20:26

Like You're not gonna come? You're gonna come to the boat? No, you come to the house.

SPEAKER_05 20:30

Yeah, let's go to their house.

SPEAKER_04 20:31

We'll see, we'll see. My mom will kill me.

SPEAKER_05 20:35

Uh okay, Thanksgiving. Or it can be a reason to leave early.

unknown 20:38

That's true.

SPEAKER_04 20:39

You can't leave, that's the problem.

SPEAKER_05 20:41

You're on an early two island.

SPEAKER_04 20:42

You can't leave. You're on an island. You can swim back. You just swim back.

SPEAKER_05 20:45

It's your own boat. That's what it would take. Just to put them next to each other. All right, Thanksgiving.

SPEAKER_04 20:50

I don't like Thanksgiving. I don't either.

SPEAKER_00 20:52

That's because you have to get it. Is that why? A lot of preparation?

SPEAKER_04 20:56

I don't mind that. I just feel like it's gluttoned. A lot of food.

SPEAKER_05 21:01

And we and we asked for like a second, like a second one. I don't know. It's a good meal.

SPEAKER_04 21:06

I don't know. I just never really got into it. And you know, growing up, Thanksgiving was always politically drama. It was like drama at the table, even though it was nice. But I don't do we really care for the me like sorry, I don't really not that I don't care about the true meaning about Thanksgiving. It's kind of fading away, let's be honest.

SPEAKER_00 21:29

It's a little odd because like the the overarching relationship of the American settlers and the Native Americans is very, very, very bad. It is violent and it is bad. It's not like the picture of like the felt characters, pilgrims like giving turkey to the Native Americans who then give corn. There absolutely was that. I'm gonna be honest, I don't a hundred percent know what we're celebrating, other than a general gratitude thing.

SPEAKER_05 22:09

Yeah, I think I think it was like in elementary school, it was that picture. It's the the Native Americans and the pilgrims sitting down at a table, so like, you know, um I guess yeah, just sitting at a table and like they're breaking bread or whatever. And I think it just ends right there, right? Like that's the end of the movie. But then there's like the bonus footage in middle school and high school, and that's when it's like, alright, let's roll the cameras, and now like everybody attack. Right. And that's when the slaughter comes, yeah. That's where like the blood and gore and like the stuff that they don't really tell you about until you get a little older. And then then you learn more about it on your own, and you're like, oh, what's what? I think like you just lost a war. And it's like that's the end of it. Like you lose, you you lost. Now you have, you know, the American settlers, and now we have America, and nobody's ever taken it, you know, since.

SPEAKER_04 23:05

So you're dang if you know about it, and you're dang if you don't. Like you can go and say, I'm just want to celebrate Thanksgiving to be around the family, and it's you have your people who emphasize, well, you need to really know what it's about. It's like, okay, sorry. And then you have people say, Well, actually it's about gaming. It's like, come on. Either way. So I don't know what I'm doing.

SPEAKER_05 23:26

Either way, I think it's a it's a holiday to be grateful. Because even if it is all those things and it is like a massacre or a genocide or betrayal, just we're still thankful that we're not dealing with that today. Like we don't have to worry about that today. So just be grateful.

SPEAKER_04 23:43

I'm gonna take that from you because you're Native American. So that came from a Native American.

SPEAKER_05 23:48

Yeah, just be just be grateful that we're not dealing with that no more.

SPEAKER_00 23:51

Okay, so here's the actual origin, and I'm it's starting to grow on me, and this could actually be, I think, better than we think. Thanksgiving traces back to 1621 when the pilgrim settlers at Plymouth Colony held a harvest feast with the Native American people who had helped them survive their first brutal year in the New World. The Native Americans had taught them to grow crops and how to navigate the land. And there were American settlers that coexisted with the Native Americans for the whole generation. Like their entire settlement was co-inhabitation and awesome and friendly and wonderful and ideal. So maybe Thanksgiving is the celebration of the good parts co-inhabiting, coexisting with other people and helping each other out, even though we look different, even though our cultures are different, even though we don't speak the same language. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 24:49

Um this is stolen land though, Clark. Well, that there's the it's conquered land, if anything.

SPEAKER_00 24:57

It's conquered land. Yeah, conquered the world.

SPEAKER_05 25:01

There's a winner and a loser.

SPEAKER_04 25:02

You see what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 25:03

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I I'm gonna put it at A tier though. I do enjoy it more than the B tier ones that I've put. And football is on all day long. I always forget.

SPEAKER_04 25:18

And uh it is just a homey thing to like just be home in your pajamas and eat or yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:25

Yeah, and like it's Christmas season at that same time, so like Christmas music's going on. Day after Thanksgiving. It's Christmas now.

SPEAKER_04 25:32

Yeah, yeah, and then there's Black Friday. Which whatever. Yeah, I don't want to do Black Friday.

SPEAKER_05 25:37

So that's why like after Halloween, day after Halloween, Thanksgiving. Day after Thanksgiving, uh Christmas. Yeah, that's it. So that's why I think the holiday season. That's the beauty of Halloween, is it signifies fall and then Christmas. Oh, fall is the best season, too.

SPEAKER_04 25:53

Thomas here.

SPEAKER_00 25:55

Huh?

SPEAKER_04 25:56

Thomas here.

SPEAKER_00 25:57

Christmas.

SPEAKER_04 26:00

We're not even really here.

SPEAKER_00 26:01

Um okay, Christmas.

SPEAKER_04 26:03

Top tier.

SPEAKER_00 26:04

Yeah. Superior. Superior. S tier for you guys. Yeah, I love Christmas. I'm gonna put it at A tier just because someone's gonna be.

SPEAKER_04 26:12

Wait, didn't Clark already do his?

SPEAKER_00 26:15

For Christmas? Maybe.

SPEAKER_04 26:16

Oh, you did do Christmas?

SPEAKER_00 26:17

I don't know. Maybe we did do Christmas. Um you gotta work a lot. In part one, maybe we did. I can't remember. But I'm gonna put it A tier because when it's when it's great, it's great. It's S tier. But it can be very stressful. Why on how many families do we have to go, I should say get to go, see, and then how many are gonna be pissed that we didn't see them first. How many are gonna make drama? But there's so much drama that can come from Christmas. Some of my most stressful times in my life have been be have been in Christmas because of Christmas.

SPEAKER_04 26:57

That's too that's just too bad.

SPEAKER_00 26:58

But it's not all the time. Yeah. So if that can go away, it's not there, it's S tier. Yeah. But sometimes it can be just a big bundle of nerves.

SPEAKER_05 27:08

Yeah, I don't have that problem. So that sucks.

SPEAKER_00 27:11

What would you put Christmas at?

SPEAKER_02 27:13

Yeah, I would say the same, probably A, just because um a lot of years I do have a little bit of anxiety around it because I'm expecting, like, okay, we have to hit these families and only have this many so many hours to stay with this family before we go to this family's house, and it's just a lot of orchestrating, like both of our parents being divorced, and we don't have any kids yet, so they expect us to come to their house. So it's just a big burden.

SPEAKER_00 27:36

And to be clear, it's not going to see them, it's them being angry that we're not there more or not there first or that we're there third or first. I have no problem. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:53

Okay, you've talked enough.

SPEAKER_00 27:54

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 27:55

This is well, this is my time.

SPEAKER_00 27:56

I'm sorry, you're right. I interrupted. No, no, no, come on.

SPEAKER_01 28:00

Really hope your family's not listening.

SPEAKER_02 28:03

No, they don't listen to podcasts. Okay. They didn't even know. They didn't have time for that. Uh but no, I I really do love it. Like, I do love like, I mean, even this year, like we were gone, we were in Hawaii last year, and it felt really sad. I will say it felt sad, like not being with family.

SPEAKER_05 28:20

We did talk about this.

SPEAKER_02 28:21

And I'm oh yeah, we did. And I'm we missed it a lot, and I missed like the Christmas tree and the snow, and like there's a lot of things that I missed.

SPEAKER_05 28:27

You felt like you skipped it.

SPEAKER_02 28:28

I feel like I skipped it, yeah, exactly. Maybe we did talk about this last episode.

SPEAKER_05 28:31

Just a little bit. We might have started with Christmas. Maybe not.

SPEAKER_04 28:33

Clark and Anthony did their greats. They did their Oh, it's okay.

SPEAKER_02 28:37

Okay. So yeah, I would give it like A plus.

SPEAKER_04 28:39

You know that I was in a Christmas play at church called Christmas in Hawaii. Really?

SPEAKER_02 28:43

What did you do? What was your role?

SPEAKER_04 28:46

I just sang a song. Like, you know, every kid has to participate in something. But I was not a lead character or anything, but it was literally called Christmas in Hawaii. It was literally called Christmas in Hawaii and it was about Christmas in Hawaii. That's nice. Yes.

SPEAKER_05 29:01

It's been happening to me a lot lately.

SPEAKER_00 29:03

I've been mishearing things.

SPEAKER_05 29:04

Hearing and reading things in such a bad way. Isn't that weird? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:09

I don't know what's going on in the program. Well, that's part two of our holidays, um, holiday tier ranking. And that's 30 minutes like on the dot. Look at that. So we have a fun next episode. Comment, like, share, subscribe. Yeah, do all the stuff. All the things. And we will see you next time.

SPEAKER_04 29:29

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