What If We're Afraid of the Wrong Things?

What does real evil actually look like?

In this episode of Poured Hearts Podcast, we dive into the difference between Hollywood's portrayal of evil and what Scripture teaches about the battles we face every day. From identity in Christ and spiritual warfare to fear, distraction, and the power of perspective, we explore what might be hiding in plain sight.

Along the way, we share some unforgettable real-life stories—including rabid bats, terrifying car accidents, being held at gunpoint, surviving a freeway rollover, and why a mouse might be a better illustration of fear than any horror movie ever made.

It's a conversation filled with faith, laughter, personal stories, and a reminder that sometimes the things we're most afraid of aren't the things that pose the greatest threat.

☕ Grab a coffee, pull up a chair, and join us for another honest conversation around the table.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Welcome back to the Pornhar's podcast. Just kidding.

SPEAKER_05 0:06

We don't talk like that.

SPEAKER_01 0:07

Hi everybody, I'm Lindsay.

SPEAKER_05 0:08

And this is Anthony. And this is Clark.

SPEAKER_00 0:11

And this is Chanley. Eating a fruit roll up.

SPEAKER_01 0:16

Eating a fruit roll-up. I know we have a whole bunch of snacks right here. This is how it be. Did you try those yet?

SPEAKER_00 0:22

They're so good.

SPEAKER_01 0:24

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SPEAKER_05 0:35

Didn't you said you had something for us to talk about? Was this it?

SPEAKER_01 0:38

Did I have what?

SPEAKER_05 0:40

Something to talk about?

SPEAKER_01 0:41

No. I have a question though, because we just spoke about we just spoke about like um aliens and aliens, emians, and scariness and all that. And this has always been like a thought in my head to myself. I would question myself.

SPEAKER_05 0:57

Most thoughts are to yourself.

SPEAKER_01 0:59

What? What do you say?

SPEAKER_05 1:01

You said thoughts in your head to yourself. I said most thoughts are in your head and to yourself.

SPEAKER_01 1:07

It was like, it's just something you kind of have to decipher when you watch these movies and all that, like what's real, but also like what evil is real. But how has Hollywood's portrayal of evil shaped our understanding of actual evil? And how does that compare with what the Bible actually teaches us about evil?

SPEAKER_05 1:24

Or vice versa. How does our understanding of evil influence Hollywood's depiction of it? That's really interesting.

SPEAKER_01 1:33

Because I think we kind of touched base on this a little bit. If I watched The Exorcist, well, you know, you like is an exorcism really look like that? Maybe. Maybe not. But like if our biggest threat to ourselves is the lack of knowing our identity in Christ, like that's the biggest threat to ourselves, is us versus us. Then why are we so ner scared and nervous about these things? In these movies, and Hollywood's kind of made it to where those are the things we actually should be scared of and that they are scary, but is that type of evil even truly exists?

SPEAKER_03 2:14

They created a fake evil to distract us from a real evil.

SPEAKER_01 2:18

Because the Bible says that God has not given us a spirit of fear, but power and love. So if the opposite of love is hate. So is so is the evil that like Hollywood portrays even real evil. You know?

SPEAKER_00 2:43

I think Hollywood has I think it's more like a distraction.

SPEAKER_02 2:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:51

Like it's not like they're trying, I don't think they're trying to like like even call it evil. Yeah, call it evil. I think it's all just so distracting. Like God's like, hey, there's a spiritual realm, and these things are happening, and we're just like distracted by like, ooh, like spooky or whatever.

SPEAKER_03 3:09

Or like and the real evil is in sound of freedom with that movie. It's like well, it's based on a true story, and that's with child trafficking. That's freaking evil. Yeah, right. Child trafficking is like that.

SPEAKER_00 3:26

Yeah, and it's like I feel like Hollywood, it's like the their evil is like spooky, gory, like Clark just watches this movie called Obsession, like this unnatural obsession with you know obsession. It sounds crazy. Obsession?

SPEAKER_05 3:42

Yeah. Is it about like the premise is this dude wishes this girl would love him more than anything in the world, and then that comes true, and it's like a classic, be careful what you wish for, and she's like a crazy person and it's it's a horror film. But anyway.

SPEAKER_00 3:56

Um but yeah, I think the real evil is like us versus us, like um just like twisted mindsets of like what everything that we're going through today, you know.

SPEAKER_05 4:08

Yeah, that I I agree that this it's I think it's I think it's a distraction. I don't think it's an I don't think it's an intentional distraction necessarily. Like I wouldn't say there's a conspiracy against us so that we're not thinking about unless it's a demonic strategy that you know, quote, Hollywood, whoever that is, um is unaware of, but they're being used without, you know, unbeknownst to them. But you bring up a great point when you say that the biggest threat to us is not having an identity in Christ because of what that leads to and the pursuits that it leads to, um including all types of evil and harm against other people. Uh but Hollywood is always going to um when they're trying to scare you or show you what evil is, it's gonna it's gonna be things about like not about you. Like the problem or the I guess the good thing about me being the problem is I'm the problem and I can fix it. What's scarier is when there's something out of my control that I can't stop and it's coming for me. That's scary. And um there are many travesties in the world that are just evil for people harming other people. And so those have made the movies because that's just more compelling, it's more provocative. But I do and and relatable the fear is relatable because we all watch the news or or have an understanding of stuff that really happens. But I'd really love the concept of the greatest. Um it's very, very, very unlikely we'll ever come into contact with anything that's portrayed in a movie that's evil. But we all will 100% come um right up against the threat of not knowing our identity in Christ, and then where that can lead can lead to absolute devastation and destruction. So that's absolutely the biggest fear and evil.

SPEAKER_01 6:18

Yeah, it is distracting because we think that evil would be what Hollywood portrays, but a lot of times it's in our own home and it's working in our own hearts and we don't realize it. And slowly but surely we could be walking around our own deaths, and that's all the enemy needs, you know. Because it's like, oh, this is what you think, like let me show them this, let me show humanity this, and they'll think this is what it is. But meanwhile, I'm over here working on, you know, XYZ and X, Y, and Z, and we don't even look and we're not even seeing it because we don't think that's what evil is. But um Yeah. My mom used to always, or someone, I think it was my mom, that Satan would is like when we finally see that Satan is just a mouse with a microphone. And and really, like if that's it, and we're so concerned about other things, you know. But yeah. That's my thought. That's a good question.

SPEAKER_05 7:19

I love the analogy you talk about. Someone explained it um like this. They said a mouse doesn't have the physical ability to pick me up and like throw me across the room. But then she said, But one time a mouse ran across my kitchen floor and it scared me so bad I jumped and threw myself across the room and fell down. Yeah. And that's Satan. Yeah. Like a mouse really can't do that, but it can scare you enough where you do that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:00

But a mouse will really make me throw myself. Dude, same.

SPEAKER_00 8:05

We crossed one in Vancouver a couple weeks ago.

SPEAKER_05 8:08

Oh my god. It was a huge like a New York rat.

SPEAKER_00 8:11

Do you remember that rat we saw in New York a couple years ago?

SPEAKER_05 8:14

Dude, it was probably like the size of my forearm. That's gross. I got like bigger than a squirrel. That's gross. It was huge.

SPEAKER_01 8:23

I got my foot stuck on a sticky trap when I was young with a mouse on it. Oh, yeah. We had traps in our because we lived in the hills and we had a trap in our house, and there was a mouse on it, and I stepped on it, and I was shaking my foot. It's like, oh yeah. You know what else is funny speaking of? This is off subject, but I woke up in the middle of the night. I was reading Fox News, and yeah, that's what's that's what you should be doing at three in the morning. But there was an article on rapid bats in California, and it's dangerous. This is Fox News, and I'm like, watch this be the same town we're from, because we had an issue with bats in our house and things like that. I opened up the article and it's it's the city where we're from. Whoa. Isn't that crazy? Rabid bats? Yeah, like with rabies. Oof. Yeah. We had a mouse uh ra bat flying in our house, yeah. At like three in the morning.

SPEAKER_03 9:16

We don't know how long it was there. We don't know how how or when it got in. We just knew like in the middle of the night it was out and about.

SPEAKER_01 9:25

Oof. And our town was known for having rapid bats, rapid bats, rabid, rabid, rapid, rabid. It sounded like you're saying rapid. Yeah, like really quick when they but yeah, that's just that's funny that that was that happened. So ugly.

SPEAKER_05 9:42

I mean, that's a horror film.

SPEAKER_01 9:43

I know. And we lived in a small home. Like this is a long this is a while ago.

SPEAKER_03 9:49

It was less than 900 square feet. It was flying in the house. Yeah. Like our the last apartment we lived in was 900 square feet, and it was bigger than that house. Yeah. Wow.

SPEAKER_01 10:02

Imagine waking up to that at three in the morning. We we it was in our room at the head of our bed. Oh my gosh. Our cat busted in, and we heard it like fighting something. We were like, what? It's a bird. That's what I said. It's a bird. And he turned on the lights. And we found out we saw it was a bat or something. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 10:23

The cat was wrestling a bat.

SPEAKER_01 10:24

Yeah, the cat was wrestling the bat. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_05 10:26

And didn't kill it?

SPEAKER_01 10:28

No. Because we didn't want him to go near it because we they had found bats with the rabies in our neighborhood, so we knew bats who stay away from them. Yeah. But the worst part is that Valentine, it was hot, so Valentine was sleeping on the couch that night. And she came in the room.

SPEAKER_03 10:43

Yeah, she kept saying, I hear something.

SPEAKER_01 10:44

I hear something in the hair. I'm a little go to bed, you know, thinking she hears something outside or whatever. And she's like, I hear something. And it was a bat in the it had to have been in the couch.

SPEAKER_05 10:54

You said in the couch?

SPEAKER_01 10:56

Yeah, it had to have been in the couch, around the area. Oh I know. Oh my goodness. And so we we okay, so she goes in the room. We were like, stay in the room. Me and Anthony go outside of the room to look for it, kill it. Our neighbor knocks on the door. She called the neighbor while she was in the room.

SPEAKER_03 11:18

He's like a mountain man.

SPEAKER_01 11:19

Yeah, he's like a tree man, and he'll he'll pick it up himself and like throw it. And he comes knocking on the door. He's like, Valentina called me. And we were like, Oh, she's in the room.

SPEAKER_03 11:29

We didn't know that she called it.

SPEAKER_01 11:30

She's like, they ain't gonna do nothing. Like call. She was like only eight two. And so he came over and he had like a plastic like drawer. And Anthony was like covered in the hamper room. He was like sheltered. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 11:49

I put on layers of clothes in case. Oh yeah, I might put it in. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:53

And so he walked in and he was like halfway awake, and he's like he's like got a beer belly, and he's like chairs on that. He's like, Where's the bat? And we couldn't look, and as soon as he walks in the doorway, he's like, There it is. And it's sitting it was on my shoe. He's kind of blended in it. He's just sitting there and the shoe is like, There it is.

SPEAKER_03 12:11

It was like a little brown bat.

SPEAKER_01 12:13

Yeah, I almost crapped myself when I saw it.

SPEAKER_03 12:16

So he just walked out and just put the plastic because it was actually my drawer. I had the container. Okay. I had that and then like um like a dustpan or something. So he took the the container and he just walked up to it and just put it over it, and then we got like the plastic cutting boards, you know, um, and just slid it in and then just walked it outside and we called it animal control, I think.

SPEAKER_01 12:42

I had called them before, and they said if you can catch it, catch it so that we can see if it's rape if it has rabies because the cat was fighting with it and and he let it out. I was like, oh he's like, I ain't got time for it for you to catch and let it out and I'm going to bed, you know. But we had to keep our cat quarantined. Oh. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03 13:02

It was fine.

SPEAKER_01 13:02

So but well, it did die. Yeah, but for other reasons. Yeah, he died. That was way later. Wait. Oh yeah, it was like a couple months later. Did he die from rabies? No.

SPEAKER_05 13:14

A couple months later?

SPEAKER_01 13:16

Well, he died like six months later.

SPEAKER_03 13:19

He had other problems. Yeah. He was already like about to die when we got it. We saved him, like he rescued him.

SPEAKER_01 13:25

So yeah, that's our horror story. Just look at the case.

SPEAKER_05 13:28

I just want to talk to him. I just want to know.

SPEAKER_01 13:30

What's he doing?

SPEAKER_05 13:31

Asking Claude when like the cat just gone.

SPEAKER_01 13:34

Oh, yeah. Anthony loves Claude too.

SPEAKER_00 13:36

Dude, he just is always talking to Claude. Yeah. You talk to Chad GPT. Okay, well.

SPEAKER_01 13:40

Chad GBT. Chad. Chad Chad. Chad Chad, and we got Claude. So you like Claude. But yeah, that's my horror story. So um, yeah. We just need to be careful for a depiction of evil. So that we're not distracted.

SPEAKER_03 13:56

Yeah. I was in the middle of a shot of a shootout once. The bat was way scarier. You were in the middle of a shootout? Yeah, when we were in Oakland at the sideshows. We were in a van. Um, and my friend, he actually got shot in that van like two weeks later with a shotgun. He had to go to the hospital. It sprayed him like in his in his uh what do you call this? Calf? Calf. Um he was fine. But it was just crazy that it was the same van. But we're at the light, and you just start hearing like bop, bop, bop. You're like, what's what is that? And you like poke your head out, right? You're trying to look through like the front windshield, and you just see a dude like up in the front, just up and like just setting off rounds.

SPEAKER_01 14:41

You were there?

SPEAKER_03 14:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:42

What?

SPEAKER_03 14:42

So and there's where they're shooting at somebody from like a couple cars back. Like, like, go like get out of here. Oh my gosh. But yeah, that was that was one. He was shooting like this, like over. Because he's trying to shoot over the cars. Oh. Yeah. So because he's out of his car, right? So like you got a bunch of cars in a line. So he's like trying to shoot over the cars to hit whoever he's shooting at. But that's that's how he was shooting.

SPEAKER_05 15:09

For those of you who listening, which are all of you, um we say like this. It's like just lift your hand up like you're asking a question, pretend there's a gun in there, and then just tilt your wrist down. That's like what this guy was trying to do to shoot over these cars.

SPEAKER_02 15:27

Like as if he's in like a rap video.

SPEAKER_01 15:33

I'm glad you're okay and everything, but he was trying to shoot like that. That's Clark's mindset. Yeah. That's what Clark's like. That's my takeaway.

SPEAKER_03 15:40

Why was he shooting like that? Like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 15:43

They really do hold the guns like that. Yeah, they're just I've been held at gunpoint too by men. Uh-huh. And they were they were like this, they swarmed the car and they held the guns like that.

SPEAKER_00 15:52

What happened?

SPEAKER_01 15:54

They just pulled up, they were robbing the house the complex that we had pulled up in, and they had the girl outside at gunpoint. They were trying to get in her house to rob her. Uh-huh. And we pulled up maybe like from seven feet from each other. They came and they swarmed our car, and they were pointing their gun at us. And they're saying, I don't know exactly what they were saying, but we saved her. We saved her life. We did. Uh-huh. She moved out, yeah, but she had an Italian bed set that her parents had gifted her. A beautiful bed set. And when she moved out, she came over and she gifted it to us for saving her. She's like, I'm moving out. She moved out like three days later, of course. And then we got That's crazy. I know. Yeah, we've seen some wild things. Wow.

SPEAKER_03 16:42

Yeah, the bat was way scarier than that.

SPEAKER_01 16:44

But out of all that, the bat was. Are you serious?

SPEAKER_03 16:46

Yeah, the bat was way scarier.

SPEAKER_01 16:47

You were really scared of the bat. The way you dressed up in the hamper, like you put the hamper over your head. No, I didn't do that. Yeah, I swear you did. That's crazy. That doesn't make any sense. You put the hamper over your head. I remember so vividly. Like it was your body.

SPEAKER_03 17:02

I didn't have I didn't put a hamper over my head. That makes no sense.

SPEAKER_01 17:06

I know. That's not bad.

SPEAKER_03 17:09

How could he see with that?

SPEAKER_01 17:10

Well, it was like you could see through the hamper. You still have like a clear plastic thing or it was a wood one, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:15

We still have that hamper. That's not that's not there's no way that's incredible.

SPEAKER_01 17:20

Yeah, it's exact that's what I'm saying. Like, what do you like? No. That did not happen. Just stay in the room and let animal control. Like, you don't need to go out there. We don't need animal control. We had Isaac. And a hamper. Oh, wow. Yeah. So, anyways.

SPEAKER_05 17:35

The fact that Valentina called That's funny, yeah. That's how you're like, I hear something, go to bed. I hear something, go to bed. He said, Alright, fine. I'll con our neighbor. What time was it, do you think?

SPEAKER_01 17:46

It was like three in the morning.

SPEAKER_03 17:48

Yeah, it was late and early. But yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:51

He came right away. He was like he was like Brawny. Yeah. Like the train man. That's funny.

SPEAKER_05 17:58

By the way, um, your cat didn't die of rabies. It'd have been very obvious and very fast.

SPEAKER_03 18:03

Yeah, yeah, that yeah. It's like a quick thing.

SPEAKER_05 18:06

It's like and it's like aggression and like it's gross. It's bad. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:12

There in that area, it was um bobcats would attack people. So if like obviously if you're out during the day and you shouldn't be the animal, then you're most likely to have rabies. And in the same town, a bobcat had attacked a woman and he gave her rabies, and she survived. But that's how that's how prevalent rabies was out there. That's makes sense, California.

SPEAKER_03 18:37

I mean, they're handing out needles, you know, for the heroin addicts. Like, why not rabies? Why not rabies? Everyone's got rabies. Yikes. Yeah. California's crazy. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:49

Bless it. Beautiful. But, anyways, so yeah.

SPEAKER_05 18:54

What else? Any other real life scary stories? That's kind of what this podcast episode is. What are we on?

SPEAKER_00 18:59

We're on like holidays, aliens.

SPEAKER_05 19:02

Holidays to aliens to evil and fear. What about car accidents? You guys got car accidents?

SPEAKER_01 19:08

I'm scared of car accidents. Have you been in any major ones?

SPEAKER_00 19:12

I was in a major one. Were you when I was 16 in California, actually?

SPEAKER_01 19:17

Did you go through a window or something? No. Thank goodness.

SPEAKER_00 19:20

No. We got hit by we like, I was in the passenger seat. We were driving and emerging onto the interstate, and this car was like already in the lanes. My friend like swerved back to the right, and we hit this, like the concrete wall, spun out into the six-lane highway and a semi-truck hit us.

SPEAKER_04 19:40

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_00 19:41

I know. I was visiting her for like a week. My mom like my mom was, you know, back home. I was in California. And when I say like my life flashed before my eyes, I've never experienced that before. And I could just see my these like the slideshow of my life. And I just kept saying, like, subconsciously, like, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus. And like I, and then it's we stopped spitting. I look over, my friends like bleeding, like down her face, my friend in the back because he didn't have a seatbelt on. Like, and the airbag hit me. And I had like third-degree burns on my chest from the airbag. And I got out and like pulled my friends out of the car. And then obviously, like ambulance came and stuff, but like she was, we were both like in her bed, like for probably a week. I mean, she was like had more damage than I did. And what is so crazy is that she um her like she grew up Muslim and then my friend, he just like didn't know the Lord at all. But like I was on the side in the front that got hit by the semi-truck, and they were like injured worse than I was. Like I had like the burns on my chest, but that's it. Like I could walk out of that car, like I could pick my friends up, and like I really believed that I was protected by the Lord.

SPEAKER_01 21:04

For sure.

SPEAKER_00 21:05

And angels had their hands on our whole on our whole car, like not just me, but like it was something I will never forget. Yeah. And I think I still like suffer a little bit from like that trauma, like, especially in the passenger seat when I have like something's happening, I can't control it. But that was insane.

SPEAKER_01 21:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:23

Like, and my poor mother.

SPEAKER_03 21:25

Like California. Yes. It's not it's not home. It's not like on you know, a street right here.

SPEAKER_00 21:29

Totally. Yeah. And my mom, you know, is like just in a different state across like the country. Like, what in the world?

SPEAKER_05 21:36

Like, so where'd the semi where the semi hit the car? I never knew the details of this.

SPEAKER_00 21:42

I mean, I have a picture. I should show you a picture of the car. Um, but my the front right, like hood on my passenger side.

SPEAKER_05 21:50

Jeez. So she swerved back, hit the um concrete, and then started spin out into the highway. The highway. And then the semi-hit your side.

SPEAKER_00 22:03

It kind of like, yeah, like on the I wouldn't say it was head on, just like like but a really good like side swipe, just like that whole I mean the car looked like uh someone like just crumbled it in a ball.

SPEAKER_01 22:14

Wow. Like the picture of the ball?

SPEAKER_00 22:18

I haven't shown you. No.

SPEAKER_05 22:19

I didn't even know that it semi-hit you.

SPEAKER_00 22:21

I should try to find the picture and show you. Wow. I'm sure it's on Facebook somewhere. I was 16, so yeah, it was a long time ago.

SPEAKER_03 22:28

It's probably on MySpace.

SPEAKER_00 22:29

Yeah, it's probably on MySpace. R.I.P. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 22:32

Wow, that's crazy. Crazy. About your cart. I no, not really. I saw a in an intersection a car get T-boned and then tip over. And then my friend was like, there's no way that anyone survived that. I'm like, bro, you're an idiot. Like they were going like 25 miles an hour. It is wild that that car tipped over. And then like everybody got out of the vehicle and it was fine. But no, I I don't have any experiences with car accidents.

SPEAKER_03 23:07

How about you?

SPEAKER_01 23:09

We were rear-ended, but that was scary. But I've seen more car accidents, helped more people on car accidents than I have been in a car accident. Oh really? But it's hard to witness those things. Because you don't know if someone's gonna be alive or what you're about to walk into. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:31

But yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:32

I've been in a lot.

SPEAKER_00 23:33

You've been in a lot of car accidents.

SPEAKER_03 23:34

A lot of car accidents. Only one is me driving.

SPEAKER_00 23:37

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_03 23:38

Everything else has been other people driving. Just bad friends or? Well, a lot were my mom. She was driving. She'd fall asleep driving.

SPEAKER_04 23:45

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03 23:46

Like pills and stuff.

SPEAKER_04 23:47

Oh.

SPEAKER_03 23:48

So that that always sucked.

SPEAKER_04 23:50

That sucked.

SPEAKER_03 23:52

There was one time I had we had a friend who was like a really good driver. It was like a like a golf, like the Volkswagen golf, so like a small car. And we were leaving like the park uh in the neighborhood, and he was driving crazy, but he always drove like that, and we always trusted him because he was really good at it. But we were just going too fast on a blind turn on the wrong side of the road. I was like, don't be on the wrong side of the road. This is my neighborhood. Like, this is not where you want to do that. So sure enough, some like there was a car there, so he had to swerve, and he's going too fast. So he hit the e-brake. We're just, you know, going sideways, like spinning out a little bit, not fully spinning, but like trying to get a grip. And then I'm in the back, passenger side, back seat, and we're like full sideways at this point. Hit the curb. So I'm like, alright, well, he lost control now. And I'm just looking at like the whatever we're about to hit, and we've hit something, but we all had our seatbelts on. I hit my head on the glass. Everybody just kind of gets out the car. Neighbors are coming out, screaming. We just get out and start running, get into other people's car, and we all left. He filed an insurance claim and got a new car and was, you know, back at it again. That was just like a regular thing for him. Who was that? His name was Dre. Um he was like, he could his family had money. He always f like flaunted and flexed like it was his because we didn't know him like that. Like we didn't know his family, but my other friend, Justin, was real close with him. Um and so he knew like where he's actually getting the money from. And like he has a job, but his job is with his parents, and it was like insurance. It was like, so you it ain't really your money.

SPEAKER_01 25:34

So it was nothing to him to the party.

SPEAKER_03 25:35

Yeah, it was nothing to him. He had a new car, it was a better one, and he did the insurance thing, which was a total fraud. Um, so that was one. I think the worst one was when I flipped the car. That was probably the worst one. Um scary. Yeah, that was on the freeway. And that one, like I literally spun out what was the car? Pathfinder. And that one that one flipped like multiple times. And I had my seatbelt on and ended up upside down. And the only way I knew I was upside down was because I was trying to get out and undo the sea buckle and it would not go. So I just had to like push it hard, and then I finally got out. I knew I was on the freeway. My biggest fear was like I'm about to get hit by like a semi-truck after already crashing. So I just kind of poke my head out of the window. Like, where am I? I don't know where I'm at on the freeway. And as soon as I poke my head out, like I just see people running towards me, like, are you alright? You're alright. Um I was like, Yeah, I d I don't know where my phone is. Can I use your phone? My first thought was I have to call Lindsay. She's gonna be mad. Like, because I'm supposed to be on my way home, and now like I don't know how long it's gonna take for me to get home.

SPEAKER_01 26:52

That's not why I was mad. I was so mad.

SPEAKER_03 26:54

No, I know, but that was my first thought was like I have to tell Lindsay. I'm gonna be late. Yeah, pretty much. Um yeah, that one, I think that was. Did you say how it flipped or why? So I was on the freeway.

SPEAKER_01 27:08

It was your fault, right?

SPEAKER_03 27:10

Um depends on how you look at it. I would say no. But um I left I left my mom's house and I had like three coronas. It's like I I had some seven days before I turned 21. So I get in the car accident, the cops show up, the breathalyzer, California has zero tolerance, so I gotta do it. Even though I blew under the legal limit. If I was if it was eight days later, I would have been fine. No, no repercussions, no nothing. That stayed with me for a while on my record. That was that sucked. So there there is that. I'm not gonna deny that. But what actually happened was I'm on the freeway and then a merge is coming. So a car is merging onto the lane, and it's not like Tennessee where you have the move over law. Like, we don't have that. I don't have to move over. If anything, like you get behind me. It's not friendly over there where everybody over here is like, oh, move over. I'll bet you in. We share the road in Tennessee. California does not like it. Sometimes oh, you don't think so?

SPEAKER_01 28:13

No, actually, I I feel like I've had worse. Tennessee's gotten meaner. Yeah, drivers out here than Calemon.

SPEAKER_03 28:18

Oh, I don't know. But anyway, um so you don't get over. Yeah, so I'm just like, I'm just driving, like, oh, they're merging. All right, well, I'm here, so you better move. And they don't move. So I'm like, alright, well, like you're about to hit me, so I start going to the left lane, but I look over my shoulder, there's a car right there, so I can't go, so I go back to the right. They kind of scoot over to the right, like on the shoulder, to get out of the way, and then I swerve again, and because it's like that pathfinder, it's just easy. So I start losing control, and then that was it. So I'm just trying to not get hit. I'm trying not to get hit and to not hit another car, and then by doing that, none of them got hit, and I ruined my entire car.

SPEAKER_05 29:00

Was the other car that was trying to get on that couldn't, Chanley's friend?

SPEAKER_00 29:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:04

Was it a a little blue BMW?

SPEAKER_00 29:08

No, it's a little blue sedan.

SPEAKER_03 29:10

It could have been that. What year was this? What year was this?

SPEAKER_00 29:15

Was this in there was no Pathfinder that flipped on the accident?

SPEAKER_03 29:20

Remember. This was in what? Um was that in Fresno? 2011, 2012? Was that in Fresno?

SPEAKER_00 29:28

It was in Fresno.

SPEAKER_03 29:29

Yeah, this is in like Hayward.

SPEAKER_01 29:32

You never know.

SPEAKER_03 29:34

So I had to go to the hospital because I had glass glass in my eye, so they had to flush out the glass in my eye.

SPEAKER_00 29:39

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03 29:39

Um you scratch a cornea or anything? Not on that one. I did get shot with an airstop gun and just got my cornea spot.

SPEAKER_01 29:46

I know. The Lord has saved his life.

SPEAKER_03 29:49

Yeah, that's that's a that's a different story.

SPEAKER_00 29:51

Would you be surprised if y'all met like Anthony flipped, then Lindsay Granada's beautiful like slow and then just like Can I pray for you?

SPEAKER_03 30:00

Right, yeah. Where were you for?

SPEAKER_01 30:01

I went though. I went to the I went to the accident site and I saw it. I was like, oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 30:05

So yeah, the tow truck guy, all of the cops when they showed up, they thought it was for sure like a um like a they thought I was gonna be dead, and they said for sure that seatbelt saved your life. Wow.

SPEAKER_01 30:16

Um your seatbelt.

SPEAKER_03 30:18

Yeah, seatbelt. And then um, what was I about to say? Oh, the next day, so I still went to work the next day because I was fine, like I was a little sore, but I was fine. Um and I had a like I told, you know, my boss and whatever, like my coworkers what happened, and they asked, like, was this at like 8 45 at night on this side of the freeway by this intersection? Like, I saw that accident. Like, I saw like all the cops there and like the lights and the ambulance and all that. And I was like, Yeah, that was me. Yep. I was like, dang. I saw that car too. That was not pretty. That's crazy. I was like, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 30:57

Well, moral of the story. Wear your seatbelt, respect. Don't drink, don't drink the coronas, and period.

SPEAKER_00 31:05

Always carry a laundry hamper around in case you get it.

SPEAKER_05 31:09

Fight a bath.

SPEAKER_03 31:10

Fight a bath. Well, it's not like you can shoot it because you can't have a weapon in California.

SPEAKER_05 31:16

Yeah, so the hamper.

SPEAKER_03 31:18

The hamper hampered. The hamper was not there.

SPEAKER_05 31:21

No hamper. That's our official stance. And till next time.