פרק 21 - פרופסור אסף לובין: על לימודי משפטים באוניברסיטאות המובילות בעולם

 בפרק הזה אנחנו מארחים את פרופ’ אסף לובין, מהמשפטנים הישראלים הבולטים בעולם, לשיחה מקיפה על המסלול האקדמי והמקצועי של לימודי LL.M באוניברסיטאות המובילות.

אסף הוא פרופסור למשפטים באוניברסיטת אינדיאנה, עמית מחקר ב-Harvard Law School וב-Yale Law School, ובעל ניסיון עשיר בהוראה, מחקר וליווי משפטי בינלאומי.

במהלך הפרק דיברנו על:

• מהו בעצם תואר LL.M ולמי הוא מתאים.
• ההבדלים בין לימודים בארה”ב, בריטניה ומדינות נוספות.
• כיצד מתקבלים לאוניברסיטאות מובילות כמו Harvard, Yale, Columbia ו-NYU.
• מה מחפשות ועדות הקבלה מעבר לציונים.
• מלגות ואפשרויות מימון.
• הקריירה שאפשר לבנות לאחר סיום התואר – באקדמיה, במשרדי עורכי דין, בארגונים בינלאומיים ובתעשיית ההייטק.
• כיצד לבחור את התוכנית הנכונה בהתאם למטרות האישיות והמקצועיות.

בין אם אתם עורכי דין בתחילת הדרך, שוקלים קריירה בינלאומית או מתעניינים בלימודים בחו”ל – הפרק הזה יספק לכם תמונה רחבה, פרקטית ועדכנית על אחד ממסלולי ההמשך היוקרתיים ביותר בעולם המשפט.

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SPEAKER_03 0:47

Shalom, namakiv, a coin saf Lubin, Ani City Torchli, Ani Shati Bagafamodin, City Torchli be Mishpatin Bhsem Benomin by Vesta with Birushalaim, It Maheti be uh Bisrada Hutz Bagafati, Besu Gyoch Mishpad Benomi, the Gamavadi be better dinabomi, hapli Yugoslavia Shaval, uh at Tora Shiny Vash Lishati Bayel, Kani, Igashima Diot, Palpine Vishlosre, Loya Mashukaz, Vihaval, Azarbemi Tanu Deavadnu I Hadimasheni, and Shekiru Baivri, Kaval, Avalarbemod Mizayani Suvitiya, V Limazali, Aphotiya, V Alak Vesedev, V Matzati Mibetor Sheni Bayel, Shim Shekh Doctorat Bell, etapostdoctorat of City Be Shanachat Betafts, Pletcher, Lemishpathim, Bazita Shanach Nya Be Harvard, Shama Gamekarti at Bali, Shabiduksiam Tor J Dor Bem Shpatim, Vishnenu Nienu Professor Mishpatim Pobo Universitat Indiana, Anikarega be Chicago, and of Alavana Zhabi Machaizak Anakmi Canada Minnesota, she dochima a vermeluklach in Chicago, local notes with the same thing. The colbe seferes shall kabalatmu amadim shootone, aweshle marbe dimion, the babasishelahem, yeshu, talik sinunri shoni, talikh sinunas inesalpsis netune basis, as Marmazot iken, ma me mutatzi unimshalekhem, the varshu chashov, ma ve masitimifhane and glit, amartem, amadatem barrafanidraj, ze khashur. Ken Uliba Shirazanyagid, Ani Ayalime Mutzatiu nim, the dream elishama yukhashovimode, Avalistakalte Moshlif Nancy Hazat, e Ialime Mutatio nimbe Mishpatim shel shmonim Veshishvachetsi, me mutsu nimbe Yachasimbelum shel tishinbahat, ba memutzami shuklala shmonim veshmonim, so let me shulika misparit. Loit macheti bailon, loitbektava et mishpatim, lo the commit vim kel shitza ni lohit kabela, colo mishpatim kay, azilon a khon, anikeni khasufama andiken avaditi bivada tirikel, be mea mashata u bavi marmara, vila ken ki tsami the kena aliam that sashu shofet, ki at shofetel avavaditi bavada, avalamlatzazo ta de la koni dwum tusha limoti lobigla light kabaldi shakom, ki at shofeta small e kirotibofini shia vaditi, mishuskono, sha gotli, shaya mera kezavela. Azalan netu shima kel khashov, mashekelhashov, zahiburi maele, veha keareka ishishelha, shemishtakef mitohkotahaim shelha, mito mihtaba metzashulcha, ve biika mitoha hhibu. Ve ifnasikazo bikachimishta mir shishlachli togmaotlekan sha lot minushotayom, kyauthashu la vin, aimashu beniswa sh lotishtanaftia, lo ishtana la kimota kuimu tamshelocha yushum gambal pine shlo shre, the an koshevshulayam la tsahitovash and yho tetala nanash lahibu, the shima tem karego mistaktima la khibuima levoimotam ki odla sot be ki lu kim mesima, kaze chho matala, asetimlo mistactimazze nahon uh ani bati la chibose the ali mashule gid Matsadashinish lahiborze shw professorimishma votasinarishani, you professor mimishpatim Pamosadotele, she crewethiburim shlachem, the M elishibal devalu Yachlitu mimikemit kabel vemlo. Ayali is the nukleagid mashule professor Mishpatim, the colour sort of mam, almashu shikishovli Zani Ashanai talpimishlo actsata he support snowden she at sala kotarot, and ishirati be modin, ayalize utmodya khudit, ba betaze, bay ali malagid, al echusim regulatia sh reguul v modin, dwanier gashi shla be anashim eziku ba ba yeda um miksoi, kede la beral regulatia mishpati chla betaze shabo shabbo ayali eze shunsayon extra. Balzaya khibu, the zaya khibu me od ani ani metoto beknasin kha naberal reguul, kise loya khibo shibat shaliwo diu kazeto. Ya m odloh mani kz mashikhaser be gamu od kaze virtuosi. Mashi khaserb madafasfarima, belu, msla mishpata benu mi, the sefer alrigul femat belu mi vani ktovet a se khaze mash anni odabedia vad shek shit kabalti le mishin hhaita liamim inhaita doctorashli professor Michael Risman kataf seph alrigul femishpatbenomi belefchamotishimbahat. Um, mezeh anita anti shelonik the wusfarim alrigul femishpatomi, shuba' tmokatavihat. As lia mim u skirli tze, the ula atovanarisha telachemze ibatem to animashu bahiboshwachem tevadushu na kone. Aval ze orerobomashu, the le orer mashu bemishu zemasha kibrima elamrimliatzer, theamrilia tseretze klapei a sadchel professorim shebbaimi rekaim shonim. Lachena echatem nas sehtiun mishpati amira, ekronit, kaze begamashal medini yut, she cholale daberle kalga khav, the tiphigigadol shani chodel kim nga bekolta alihagash.

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Tipmadimagav Yesha bemo madim shimiza kmozi sokhavim shonai sucal ever since I was young, I was dreaming about doing okay as as a shonen kebasofmash to marish program professor Mishpatim shoverze from a monomon khibuim and hotim uh the issue of gamash called you can back it up, can win away asimish mouth and a hotim lowful ketotov, let me call as an takeoff hashtag. I mean policom machine was my name, Lassot unmute, la fila, shell as an as a minute as as name in balakem, uh format as a mask.

SPEAKER_03 9:34

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SPEAKER_00 11:58

And Nirali Nakutchodmadcama, Ashurto Tsveano, it's evident mission and stuff shit. If it makes sense, the helicopter negative moshes, and the same thing.

SPEAKER_03 16:12

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SPEAKER_00 21:47

Okay. Um, student, professor.

SPEAKER_03 22:45

And you share dialogue, Legabe, Masavir, Khaim Shallhem, Mikriate Ilonachem, Legabe, the rich schools, the safety schools, the Godverima, Loreali, Avalakaragam Bekhbonche, Lassimbat, Anilo Koshaftian, Yelze Reali Li. Harvard. Anilamadeti Bekita, Shel Elelem Shayba Srim Khamishas Studentin. Zeakol. Yelme Kablimbe Memutsa, Srim Khamishas Student in Beshana. La Shva Bearvard Zema Time student in Lem Shmit Kablimbashana. Be Colombia Zeshloshmo student Kabim Bishana. Ki Hol Sh yo ter student shimit Kablim, Zomashikam Yesh your terta Khaout. Takarut al Ayachol Shaliit Kabela coursim shaterotze, ki al koleshtakut. Gamim Pataholagishma Madutla course, lomashita kabelet a course ratita, lomash it kabeleta fellowship shit my ante elab. Zelomashita research assistant la professor shakose. Kola dwarima, studentim shabulamathare, the balkeshbon. Azani be metmo odmah, toch nyo m. Lato velaka, mi matain studem shatahol kolesma la kirmichadash. Lem klali, elemit machut in specialization, imateme khapsim, it'i machutzot ki zi azolakem and la kzokhazali israel, vodba misrachiba to simla vod, imit mahut b Ip, mimosad movin na gidmi Berkeley, ki yeshabarbe, ki shula, kavarota technologia, as azhi kulma odmashmoti, tali kaphira ki, loko la mosadot, idula tsiya toet sa kusim, eve site mahuyotali mosadota ken. Academia, yesh musadoche uchelayem, Harvard Yale, Stanford, brofanya shir, like Chicago na gid, ye uchelayem, ulah shir, bugrim, elachole, magalim academia, ki professorim, eki ho kreim.

SPEAKER_01 27:18

Killing the mishpatim.

SPEAKER_03 27:29

I know, uh uh Kevin, to a chevashanim Lamatum Cheva.

SPEAKER_01 27:36

Kilimusim Taurishon kilo Mm.

SPEAKER_03 27:39

Ah, La Sot gameta toarishon to me. Aval kilo tomate la sort BA by la sort it called Ali by America. Okay, yes, it's not specify J D America. Said my mare Zarashilcha. Arbe Nagida niche balti lyot professor Bertha Brit. Aya flu katavti alze maamara ya, Aya Betseferehad Nagid, Sh Professor Shriya Yenoti, Shall Shall Witzig Zekilus Tamyan Shatam Lamed Zeki, the student Megiele Khavushuel, Lamata, Shelosi Tamifanelishkabe America, Vata Gamlola Madeta, K J D Amerikai, Lamata Melamedoti Dinaze Kin. Echaita Oneel student. Shil Aimata Kashir, Lilamed, Ota Student M Shelanu Dinea Nzikin Americaim. But I'm not going to be able to make America. Lama at Kemishu Zar, she it machab dinim zarim, Lamrota, tkufak zarashilak ponegida sit elem, shirala l'yot mwa seketkan. O veretkola ta aliha amerikaya al male, az barusheme rekarbe, vize magdilit zikwa sakab de Amerika besofoshiltavar. Avaze babi keshibon me od modjakar, alef koluyot el shelasot ttuar shalem shlarbashanin, nit kabel, la mosadota ele, the twar shalb shan, vilam shikhmi sham le jd, the lopa shootemukav, ve aniahulagid, shain ani city rak elelem, vem shahthi le jsd, le door shlishi, anive khaverim shel shikamasu elelem, bli jeste, kulano matzanu avodot be Amerika, bliha at soch la sotita itavarasheni. Ani koshevse trono, anheshaga meta kabel kaverim macheri, kabel itsu it'sov to dami shpatia hair umalani koshevse ba shhez lobe kha nahoots imayadu ba sofiote orat in Amerika.

unknown 30:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 30:48

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SPEAKER_00 49:31

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