Apparently My Back Has A Uterus

A body can tell the truth long before a chart does. We open up about years of “it’s just your back” verdicts, ER visits, and scans that never explained pain so intense it stopped life in its tracks. The turning point arrived with a clinician who listened, connected the dots between recurrent cysts and hidden endometriosis, and recommended the only test that really answers the question: surgery. What they found mapped perfectly to the pain—lesions across both pelvic walls and the perirectal area, effectively surrounding the waist and provoking those brutal back spasms.

We talk through why endometriosis is so often missed, how small ovarian cysts can ignite a flare even when they aren’t the root cause, and why removing healthy ovaries isn’t a quick fix. Expect clear, accessible language about excision surgery, recurrence risks, hormonal nuance, and the difference between coincidence and pattern. This is also a story about medical gaslighting: the quiet ways doubt creeps in when experts wave off symptoms, and the power of documenting, persisting, and finding the right specialist.

Between the heavy moments, there’s plenty of humor—salon drama, holiday beauty rush chaos, intrusive period thoughts, and the everyday mess that never stops ringing, even mid-record. If you’ve ever been dismissed, told to take a heating pad, or advised to “wait it out” while your body screamed otherwise, you’ll feel seen here. Press play for validation, practical advocacy tips, and a reminder that you are not difficult for wanting answers—you’re diligent. If this resonated, share it with a friend who needs back-up, leave a review so others can find it, and subscribe to catch what comes next.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:23

Hey! What's up, everyone? We're back.

SPEAKER_02 0:27

We back like a bad rash.

SPEAKER_00 0:29

I feel like I haven't talked to you in so long.

SPEAKER_02 0:32

I know. It's weird.

SPEAKER_00 0:33

Nicole just had surgery, so we pre-recorded one of our episodes. So I haven't seen her in a long time. So I feel like we probably have a lot to catch up on.

Early Periods And Lifelong Pain

SPEAKER_02 0:43

Yes, we can talk about that for a minute because endometriosis sucks. And so many people are affected by it, women mainly, I would assume. And nobody cares or does anything, which is crazy. It's crazy. So yeah, I mean, we can talk about it. I don't care. So the first time I had issues with pain, I guess, was I was like 14, 15, and I got my period at eight third grade. Third grade. I know. Wild. Wild. Aggressive. I was a fat little girl. You know, later's like, oh, the fatter, the bad, the fatter, the faster it is. Just you know. If only I was a gymnast, maybe I would have gotten it later. Why do they say that? I don't know. I think it I don't know. They said it has to do with like you're I don't know, like your fat, you're horn. I don't know. So whatever. So I went to the doctor. If you're fat, you're a goddess. Right? I know.

SPEAKER_00 1:43

Get her pregnant later.

SPEAKER_02 1:44

We're born in the wrong times.

SPEAKER_00 1:45

We were, we were.

SPEAKER_02 1:46

So I went to the doctor, they found a cyst, and they're like, oh yeah, you have ovarian cysts, like whatever. So fine. So throughout, let's see, so I'm 38 years old, so that was 14. So probably by I'd say 2021, I started getting these random episodes where my back would just be thrown out for no reason out of the blue. I'd go to the emergency room because I literally couldn't walk. I couldn't sit down. Yeah, it was all the time. Well, not all the time, it was random. At first, it was probably like once a year, once every year and a half.

SPEAKER_00 2:26

Remember when you were on my bed and I was scared?

SPEAKER_02 2:28

Oh, yeah. I had something like that forgot about that.

SPEAKER_00 2:31

That was terrible.

SPEAKER_02 2:32

Yeah, yeah. Sam, you have to physically push me off the bath.

SPEAKER_00 2:36

I was like, And you were like walking me in your car.

SPEAKER_02 2:39

Yeah. You were like, please text me when you get on. I'm like, it's fine. I just need to be sitting. Yeah. So ridiculous. So I'd go to the emergency rooms and like there'd always be like one or two cysts on my ovaries. And they're like, oh yeah, whatever. Like, take ibuprofen and use a heating pad. Like, bro, I physically cannot walk. Like, this isn't like me being traumatic, like, whatever. So it was years of that of okay, well, you know, just use a heating pad. I had to like take time, I couldn't go to work. I took, especially like recently, the past like two years, probably. It's like twice a year. So it's like getting worse, it's happening more, and there's no reason for this. And every time I go to get imaging done, and when it was really bad, I'd have at least one cyst, and they're acting like, you know, because the cysts that I'm having aren't big enough to cause the pain that I'm having. Yeah. So the doctors think I'm being a little baby and like, oh, it's fine, just take ibuprofen and use a heating pad. I'm like, first of all, bitch, I've had my period since I was eight years old. I fucking know how to deal with cramps, okay? This is not cramps. Like, I cannot move. I have to close my business because I cannot sit in the car. I'm like crying trying to get to work. It's either usually it's either I can't walk or I can't sit down. It's usually not both. And my poor husband's trying to help me, but the things that normally help you with back problems do not really help me. Like it just depends.

SPEAKER_00 4:04

Yeah. It's so weird that it affects your back like that, though.

The “It’s Your Back” Diagnosis Wall

SPEAKER_02 4:08

Right. Well, that's why everyone is gaslighting me and being like, oh, it's fine, like acting like I'm a little baby. So probably in like April, April or May, I went to see, I went to see the gynecolog, the surgeon, the surgical. I don't know what she was on the court. I don't know what she was, whatever. She was the one that's doing surgeries at my gynecology office. So I was talking to her about it and I was like, listen, I don't know what to do. Like, I can't live like this. Sometimes it's a couple of days, sometimes it's a week or two. Like, I can't just cancel my life randomly for two weeks. Sorry, I'm looking at little pitoes a year. Puffito. I can't. My little okay. Her little Frenchie's in the camera, and he's just so cute. I can't deal with this stupid little ear. Okay, sorry, distracted. ADHD. So I go to see this woman and I'm telling her what's going on. And she's like, Yeah, I think it's just, I think it's the cis. Like the last ultrasound, you had two on each side, and I think that's what it is. So she's like, we can just do a full, we can just get rid of your ovaries. Like if you want, we can just do full hood hysterectomy. I'm like, wait a minute. Like, I don't, I'm like, okay, like, well, what's like what's the downside of doing that? And she's like, oh, well, you'll go into menopause. So I'm like, well, I'm 38. I got my period in when I was eight. And they say you're only you got like 40 years. So I'm like, well, I only got a few years left. 40 period. For well, like with your period. Or 30, maybe it's I don't remember, whatever it says.

SPEAKER_01 5:40

40 years.

Seeking Specialists And Conflicting Advice

SPEAKER_02 5:42

I know. So I'm like, all right. So I only I only have a couple of years left, anyways. Like, who cares? Right. So she's like, okay, I want to get you in with the endometriosis specialist here. Because if you have endometriosis, I can't remove it. I'm not trained to do that. That's not my thing. So I want her to, if she thinks you have it, she can come with us in the operating room. Or if she thinks you don't have it, then I can just do it by myself. So I'm like, okay, great. So I make the appointment, you know, and I keep in mind, like time has gone by. Like I have to wait months in between to get in, whatever. So I see the endometriosis specialist at my gynecology office. And it seemed like I was bothering her. Like I walk in, she's kind of she's just like not welcoming. And, you know, I don't need like a friggin' welcome party, but like she just seemed like she was already irritated with me. And so I'm, you know, I'm just kind of explaining things, and she just cuts me off and she's like, Yeah, I don't think you have endometriosis. So I'm like, okay. Okay. And then she asked me a handful of questions that are all like, you know, like the main symptoms of endometriosis. Like, are you bleeding a lot? Do you have a lot of cramps? Like, whatever. And at the time, I had just come off my birth control because this other bitch is saying she's gonna remove everything. So I'm like, well, if you're gonna remove everything, I don't want to be coming off of my own hormones and birth control. So let me come off the birth control so that when you take everything out, I'm not like going insane over here. Yeah, like just I could just picture myself in my bed just crying for like three weeks. So trying to adjust. So I told her, I was like, well, normally I don't have X, Y, Z, but in the last couple weeks, I have had those issues. And she's like, Oh, well, that's probably just you know, random. And I was like, Well, I just came off birth control. No, it's that's probably just like it's only been a month, so that's I wouldn't count those as credible symptoms. Okay, even though like they put you on birth control when you have endometriosis because the progesterone slows down the growth. So obviously it's gonna mask my symptoms, but what do I know? So you could tell this woman had pretty much already formed an opinion that I didn't have this before I even walked in the door. She read my chart and she's like, this is a waste of my time.

SPEAKER_00 8:04

Yeah, she's like 38.

unknown 8:06

No.

The Surgeon Who Finally Listened

SPEAKER_02 8:07

Yeah, exactly. And she was like, and she was like, not only will I not do the surgery because I don't think you have endometriosis, we will not be removing your ovaries, like we will not be doing hysterectomy on a 38-year-old woman. And a part of me is like, cool, because like I don't know that I should do that anyways, but but now you're just saying that there's no choice, there's no option here. So you're just not gonna help me.

SPEAKER_01 8:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:32

Which is classic. Yeah, this scenario. Yeah, so I'm like, okay, so then I asked her, you know, after she shot me down, I was like, okay, well, I do want to discuss a couple like reasons why I don't think this is my back because she was adamant. It's your back, you should go to PT. She came up with all types of things. Like, I had kidney surgery and I was 21 and the problem was fixed. I haven't even seen a urologist in like at least 15 years, because there's no reason to, because they told me problem solved, you're good to go. So, and I have not had a problem since. So she's like, Oh, well, you had kidney surgery, your ureter runs behind your sciatic nerve, like all this stuff. And I'm like, this is not relevant at all, and I don't have any problem. I have don't have kidney problems, right? It's my back. So I said to her, I'm like, okay, hear me out. When you have, when you do pull your back, because I have obviously hurt my back before, like when you hurt your back, it's months of recovery. This isn't like, you know, okay, I'm better. I'm gonna go do cartwheels in the yard now. Like, you, it's like six months. It's sore. You need to rest, you need to yeah, you need to heat it, like whatever. I literally would I this has happened a couple of times. Like, I'll go to bed and I need help getting into bed. I literally cannot put like bend to go into bed without spasms and all this stuff happening, everything tighten up and tensing and whatever. And then I wake up and I'm 95% back to normal. Like something is happening in my body literally overnight that is changing. Like, this isn't my back. I'm fine.

SPEAKER_00 10:11

It's fucking weird.

Surgery Findings And Real Answers

SPEAKER_02 10:12

If I could do a car wheel, I could have done a car wheel. But that's fucking weird. I'll end up with more problems, right? But so I'm like, this isn't my back, and she's like, Yeah, I still think that you should just go to PT, like it's your back. But I'm like, but I've had imaging of my back done before and it's not my back. They literally are telling me it's not my back and to come to you guys. She's like, Yeah, I don't know. Like it's just not, that's not it. So I'm like, All right. So then I even said, I'm like, so every time I've gone to get imaging done during a flare-up of this, like whatever this is, I always have a cyst, at least one on uh either ovary. You think that's a coincidence? And she goes, Yes, I think it's a coincidence. I'm like, You think it's a coincidence that I have a cyst every time? She goes, Yeah, I think it's a coincidence. I'm like, I'll go fuck myself, basically. Like, cool. This lady wants nothing to do with me, fine. So, you know, frustrated. My one of my best friends had just had surgery for endometriosis. And if you don't know, most of the time they can't see it on a scan. So there's nothing, they just literally go in for exploratory surgery because they're assuming that you have it. They did know that she had it because it was almost such in her colon, which is crazy. So they did know she had it, but she loved her doctor, nothing but nice things to say. So I it took me like five or six months, but I made an appointment with her doctor, and thank God I did. So I go to see this lady, and I'm just assuming, like, you know, I go for the consultation, then it's gonna, I'm gonna have to have testing done, and then like six months maybe she'll we'll search, we'll do the surgery. So I get in there, I explain everything, and she goes, Okay, so I do agree with the other doctors. I don't think it's your ovaries, and I don't think it's the cysts. I'm like, all right, well, here we go again, Nicole's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 12:09

Well, they like say that like you can have a cyst all the time. That's what it is.

Writing Back To The Dismissing Doctor

SPEAKER_02 12:15

Well, that's what she said. She was like, cysts are completely normal. You get them every month, everyone does, and they normally just go away, you don't notice them, which is what mine were doing. So she's like, What I think is happening is that I would get a cyst, and depending on the size and the location, that it's touching endometriosis and flaring it all up around my waist, and then that's the problem. So it's like triggering it, it's pissing it off. So I'm like, okay, great. And then I'm telling her about the other lady and how she's gonna give me a full hysterectomy, removing my like ovaries, the whole thing. And she was telling me, she's like, I never touch ovaries because she's like, only if they have cancer or they're like really doing damage, because if when you remove the ovaries, your life expectancy drops by 40%, which is crazy. So if you want to die, and I Googled it and it's on there, like she's wrong. I was like, damn, I learned more from this woman in 20 minutes than I have for 25 years. Yeah, like multiple doctors that tell you nothing and they don't care, they act like you're like not even gonna listen. Like, I'm asking you for a reason, but let me just go back to myself. So, whatever. So I'm like, okay, great, let's do it. So we I go in for the surgery, you know, hoping that I have this because at least it will explain what's been going on and hopefully fix the problem. So I was nervous that I that they weren't gonna find anything. So I wake up from surgery, and the first thing out of my mouth, the lady's like, Oh, are you okay? You're waking up, everything is fine. I'm like, Do I have it? I didn't even open my eyes. She's like, What? I'm like, Did I have it? Did the endometriosis? And she's like, You did, you had it. So I ended up having it on both my left and my right, and then also in the back. So it literally wrapped around my entire waist, which makes total sense. That you have a cyst, it comes out of nowhere, depending on where it is, it hits whatever side and it goes right around my waist and inflames everything around my back muscles. So yeah. So they removed, she removed all of it. And I also got my tubes out because I don't want those suckers in there anymore. Like while you're in there, let's just do a little extra. Yeah. But yeah, so she removed everything and was confident that it wasn't, you know, gonna be a problem, hopefully. I mean, they they say that like 50% of the time endometriosis does grow back, so you gotta keep an eye on it. But I'm older, so hopefully I won't have to deal with it again.

SPEAKER_01 14:58

Grows back. That's great.

Medical Gaslighting Stories

SPEAKER_02 15:00

But you'll love this part. I did send an email to the asshole doctor that told me that I basically am a little bitch, and she responded. I know. So I wrote this whole email out, and then like any person would, I put it into Chat GPT and then rewrite it and I think right. And just like, I'm like, make me sound, you know, because I'm like, fuck you, retire, which obviously I wasn't gonna send, but I'm like, chat needs to get how mad I am, you know. So I will read what I sent her and then I'll read after what she sent me. Okay. I wanted to inform you that the diagnosis you provided was incorrect. I recently consulted with another physician who took my concerns seriously. As a result, I underwent surgery last week during which endometriosis was found on both my left and right pelvic walls, as well as my perirectal area. Although my cysts were not large, their location and size caused them to come into contact with endometriosis, triggering significant pain around my waist and severe back spasms that left me immobile at times. Despite explaining my symptoms, despite sorry, despite explaining that my symptoms did not align with a back issue, I felt dismissed during my appointment. It was clear that you had formed an opinion before speaking with me, and my concerns were not meaningfully addressed. I even followed up by email because I knew that something was truly wrong, but you didn't listen. I am deeply disappointed by the dismissive and minimizing way my symptoms were handled. This kind of response contributes to the ongoing struggle women face in obtaining appropriate care for conditions like endometriosis. As a provider in this field, I would hope for a greater attentiveness and empathy towards patients seeking answers. I sincerely hope that you will reflect on this experience and consider the importance of listening to your patients so that others do not face the same frustration and delay in care.

SPEAKER_00 17:07

Great.

SPEAKER_02 17:08

Right?

SPEAKER_00 17:08

So what does she say?

SPEAKER_02 17:09

Yeah, GBD, love it. Okay, so then she which okay, so first of all, I would just like to say I respect that she wrote back. She didn't have to. I do too. If I were her, I'd be like, yeah, I'm not dealing with that. I met her one time. It's not like she doesn't have to be a good idea. You need to look up my name to even figure out who this even was. So she goes, Nicole, I'm so happy that you found some answers. I know that you were suffering for a long time. Do you? Okay, anyway, sorry, that part pisses me off the most. I appreciate your email and feedback. I am truly sorry that you did not feel heard. I wish you so much luck, and I'm here for you if you need anything or have any questions.

SPEAKER_00 17:58

I mean, I guess what she's supposed to say, and it's a professional that she wrote back.

SPEAKER_02 18:03

Right. She can't really own anything because then I could say we're which I mean, or whatever. It gets tricky, which I'm wouldn't. She it's not a big deal. Yeah. But it's just more for like the gaslighting and making me feel like I'm crazy. And I could almost kind of understand people treating me that way if I was just looking for painkillers because I'm just saying I'm in pain and I'm, you know, just trying to get pills. But every time I go to the ER, they'd be like, Oh, do you want something for the pain? I'm like, nothing's gonna help me, first of all. And second of all, I took ibuprofen this morning. Like, I'm just here for the imaging. I'm just trying to document what the hell's going on with me.

SPEAKER_00 18:38

That happened to me. I I had severe stomach pain on like my left side, and it was like weeks, and I just dealt with it and I went to the PCP and I was like, Okay, something ain't right. I was like, I don't know, I need a CT scan or something. And she was like, You pulled a muscle. Oh my god. And I was like, It's been weeks. I was like, I know what a pulled muscle feels like this is like a a spasming. She's like, Yeah, it's a pulled muscle. She left to me and I was like, Good luck and left. So I drove myself to urgent care because I was like, No, yeah, something is wrong. Yeah, dude, I had diverticulitis, an enlarged spleen, and a hernia.

SPEAKER_02 20:01

Thanks so much. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:03

I was like, take me off of her patient list. Goodbye.

SPEAKER_02 20:07

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:08

I pulled a muscle, you motherfucker.

SPEAKER_02 20:10

Dude, I know.

SPEAKER_00 20:11

All she had to do was be like, all right, let's get you in for a scan. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:15

Yeah. I had one guy, I had one guy urgent care tell me when I went in for imaging, really, instead of going to the ER because it's more convenient when I'm at work. And this male doctor, I tell him, and he's like, Do you think you're just getting your period? Sir, you don't think I fucking know what it's like to get a period? Are you joking? I'm almost 40 years old. Like, go fuck yourself. How what?

SPEAKER_00 20:40

Just shut up because if I was, I would strangle you.

SPEAKER_02 20:45

Yeah. You're like, you know what? Maybe I am getting it because you're pissing me off.

SPEAKER_00 20:48

I'm getting really agitated.

SPEAKER_02 20:50

Yeah, you're like, that's funny, because I don't think that most people, when they get their period, they can't fucking walk. Like, you think this is an act? Like, I had to walk down this long ass hallway, it took me 25 minutes. Like, are you joking? Like What do you think? I do this for fun. This is like a game I play with myself. Let me just waste several fucking hours at urgent care and be miserable.

SPEAKER_00 21:12

Because I'm about to bleed for the 900th time in my life.

SPEAKER_02 21:16

Yeah, I'm not even asking for pain medicine. I'm just like suffering just because I'm I'm probably getting in my period. Like fuck off.

Period Brain, Intrusive Thoughts, And Humor

SPEAKER_00 21:24

Dude, I'm like, I'm like this close to getting mine. Like it's like I'm like this sitting here right now. Like, you know, when you're so tired because it's about to come. Yeah. And then like I was at the gym earlier, and I literally like I didn't know that this was like a real thing. I just kept them to myself for like the past like 30 full years of my life, or however long I've had my period. But like I didn't know that like everybody had intrusive thoughts. So I just thought I was like really fucking crazy. Like, wow, this bitch is real fucking insane. But like this morning, I'm like on the at the gym, and I like this is how I know. Like after this scenario happens, I say to myself, Oh, bitch, a period's coming any second now. Any second. Oh, yeah. Literally like having a vision of a fucking shooter coming in the gym and just he gets my leg. I jump around the machine, I'm hiding from him, and then he's like, Where is that bitch? I want to kill her.

SPEAKER_02 22:21

I love that it's just specifically you. Like he's just there just for you. I mean, in today's world, unfortunately, like it's been crazy lately. So many shootings. I know it's retarded.

SPEAKER_00 22:32

But yeah, this is my head, and I'm like, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah, it's coming.

SPEAKER_02 22:36

I know.

SPEAKER_00 22:37

That wasn't normal. That was normal.

SPEAKER_02 22:39

I know. Usually I'll like snap at my husband a couple of times, like for some things, and then like two days later, the next day, of like, oh, I got my period yesterday. I'm like, oh, really? Wow, that's surprising. I had no idea that that was about to come. I'm like, okay, first of all, shut up, dude. But second of all, you know, whatever.

SPEAKER_00 22:57

I know it is kind of funny.

SPEAKER_02 22:59

Yeah, but whatever. So hopefully I'm better and I don't ever have that problem again, and only time will tell. So we'll see. I do.

SPEAKER_00 23:06

Do they give you an ablasion?

SPEAKER_02 23:08

I have no idea. So I just have like the you're still gonna get a period after all this.

SPEAKER_00 23:14

Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:15

I have it right now.

SPEAKER_00 23:16

Why can't they burn the inside out?

SPEAKER_02 23:18

I don't know, it's fine. I don't even care about that. That was never.

SPEAKER_00 23:20

I want them to do that to me. Okay, yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 23:24

I have my post op in a couple weeks, so then I'll actually get to talk to her because I just was reading the medical notes.

SPEAKER_01 23:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:30

And you know, half of it's mumbo jumbo than ours. Yeah. So yeah. So I'll find out more in depth of like actually what happened and what she saw and whatever in a couple weeks. But yeah, so hopefully everything's better and I don't have to worry about it anymore.

Recovery, Next Steps, And Hope

SPEAKER_00 23:44

God, thank God. Yeah. I have a wicked funny story about how supposedly I gave somebody's pregnancy away. Oh. Yeah. This was when I started at the salon in Mansfield. So it's like a room of just lash beds, right? So I'm on the end. There's a girl next to me. She tells me, she told me that she was pregnant early on because obviously we work together, you know, something happens or whatever. Like, yeah, I should know. Okay, fine. Like, I'm brand new here. Like, I'm not saying it. I don't care. To be honest, I don't give a single fuck that you're pregnant. I really don't. Whatever. I don't even know you. And then the other two girls on the end. So my client comes in, and apparently these two have worked together. The girl sitting next to me, and my client, let's call her Ashley. So Ashley knows Jackie. Ashley and Jackie. Yes. Ashley knows Jackie. So Ashley lays down in my bed. We're talking. I'm not paying attention to Jackie because you're doing your job. Yeah. So Jackie's talking to her client and tell, mind you, we're like literally right next to each other. Oh, right next to each other, yeah. Telling her how she's pregnant.

unknown 25:07

Okay.

Salon Drama And “Stolen” Pregnancy News

SPEAKER_00 25:08

And talking about the whole thing. Great. I again not even paying attention. So Ashley says to me, So Jackie's pregnant. I said, How'd you know? Because how'd you know? She goes, I just heard her talking about it. So I'm like, oh, then I guess if she's talking about it in the room, like what am I supposed to say? Like you heard it come out of her mouth. What am I gonna say? No, she's not, and then fight you. Yeah, exactly. Whatever. Okay. Ashley, my client, got a big ass motherfucking mouth. She goes to the bar that we both work at and tells everyone that Jackie's pregnant. And now Jackie texts me what the fuck I am. I'm a fucking bitch that I gave away. I stole her moment. I stole her fucking moment. I said, first of all, who the fuck do you think you are? Kim Kardashian? Yeah, for real. No one cares. No cares. Like it's great. You told her, not me. I said you were blabbing about it. She asked me. She heard from you that you were pregnant. So I said, yeah, because what am I supposed to say at that point? Yeah. If you don't want people to know, then don't fucking talk about it. Exactly. Oh, then she was crying. I was the worst person. She do she shunned me. But like I was like, listen, you are way overreacting. You are insane.

SPEAKER_02 26:34

Yeah, fair. Your pregnancy hormones are banished.

SPEAKER_00 26:38

Yeah. So she came in the next day and she was like, listen, there's no hard feelings. I said, listen, there's no feelings at all. I don't care. Hard or soft, I don't literally don't give a fuck. You like shut your mouth. Yeah. Yeah. It was crazy. Then, like, me and her never got along after that. Like, I tolerated her, but like I think that she thought she didn't know me. So when she came in there and like just start, I was like, listen, honey. The other girl was working. I said, Who does Jackie think she is? I'm not the motherfucking one. No. And the other girl was like, I said, You gotta blame me, motherfucker. You're the one who told everyone. Stupid.

SPEAKER_02 27:21

Stupid. I love when you say that. Stupid. Oh I have gotten some some feedback about our vocabulary. Apparently, the word kucka is loved by all. Oh, it is. I thought you were gonna say that it's like childish, which I mean, isn't that part of why it's loved? That's part of why I love saying kucka. Yeah. So yeah, so people love caca. They like how you go from being professional and classy to like psychotic Boston. And it's just hilarious.

SPEAKER_00 27:56

Listen, you can take the taunt out of out of you take the girl out of taunting, but you can't take the taunt out of the girl. Okay. It's like comes at comes in and flips.

SPEAKER_02 28:05

Yeah, exactly. You never know what you're gonna get.

SPEAKER_00 28:07

Never know. Yeah, she's that's that's the best part about the unpredictability.

SPEAKER_02 28:12

Exactly. Exactly. It's why we keep all the guys guessing.

SPEAKER_00 28:15

Yeah, that's how we keep them all around. Professional one second, taunt in the next.

SPEAKER_02 28:21

Never know what you're gonna get. Never know.

SPEAKER_00 28:22

Yeah.

Santa, Movies, And Closing Chaos

SPEAKER_02 28:23

So yeah, so I think that's all we got really going on today. We're just kind of trying to update. We're both extremely busy with the holidays. Sam, especially. People gotta get their people gonna get their lashes done, which is totally understandable. I don't understand why you need to get your vagina wax to go see your mom for Christmas, but like, cool, come on in, you know what I mean? But lashes I get bingo bells. Sorry, whatever. It's you to you, boo. Okay, you come on in, I'll take care of you.

SPEAKER_00 28:51

Siena's coming. Sienna's coming to town, that's why they're doing it.

SPEAKER_02 28:56

That's right. For real. They're like, where is that fucking uh listen? Kurt Russell, my favorite Santa Christmas Chronicles.

SPEAKER_00 29:04

I oh I I don't know what nothing is, Nichols.

SPEAKER_02 29:07

What you need to watch it, it's incredible. All right, I think Zane's watched it, but probably it's the best one for sure. Hands down. All right, he's just like the best fucking Santa.

SPEAKER_00 29:16

I want to watch Elf, that's my fave.

SPEAKER_02 29:18

Oh, I do love Elf, it's a classic. I know, but yeah, so Sam's still working on her compilation of men's messages. We can definitely get to that.

Listener Feedback And Language Bits

SPEAKER_00 29:27

I have a situation happening right now. I can't speak about it because it's happening right now. But I'm I'm accumulating things.

SPEAKER_02 29:37

Yes. I love it. I love it. So yeah, so we're gonna work on that. It's gonna be a goodie.

SPEAKER_01 29:44

Oh my god, what is happening? My phone is blowing. Is your house phone ringing? No, it's I'm at work. It's like I'm not, I'm not, I'm I'm busy.

SPEAKER_00 29:51

They're like Santa's coming, I need my puss waxed.

SPEAKER_02 29:55

Where is she? She's not answering. I have an emergency. Santa, he's coming. Yeah, no. So we're gonna get to all that stuff. We don't plan on taking a break, but there might just be more message, more you know, episodes like this where we're just talking just regular shit.

SPEAKER_00 30:11

So wait. Yeah, it's gonna be great. All right, till next time. Bye. Bye.

SPEAKER_01 30:20

I don't know how to end it.

SPEAKER_02 30:22

I'm like holding the speaker because I was hoping you couldn't really hear it from my answering machine.

SPEAKER_00 30:27

It was kind of funny.

SPEAKER_02 30:28

I was like, please don't leave a message, please don't leave a message. Well it was like still talking. I was like, shut up. All right, I'll talk to you later.

SPEAKER_00 30:36

Okay, bye.

SPEAKER_02 30:37

Bye.