028 - Breakdancing Meatballs

MJ & Nath are back for another week of pop culture chaos, and this time they’re reopening The Tomb with fresh news about The Mummy 4.

The boys also chat about Marvel’s answer to DC’s Absolute Universe with Midnight, while MJ slowly starts coming around to the Weird Files thanks to this week’s bizarre entry: IKEA Stowaway.

And yes, much to everyone’s delight, there’s even more discussion about the wrestling phenomenon that is Danhausen, very evil, very nice, very unavoidable at this point. Plus the return of your favourite segments, The Aisle and The Re-View.

Mummies, mayhem and mystery meatballs from the IKEA cafeteria, it’s another strange and wonderful week on the Pulp Culture Podcast.

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SPEAKER_01 0:00

uh just hey welcome to the pop culture podcast your weekly dose of all things pop culture freshly squeezed for you and me I'm Nath I'm MJ and I brought the cardboard and during the break commercial break that we have we're gonna do a bit of breakdancing yep oh I'm gonna teach you how to break dance okay there's the ambulance waiting at the front well I don't know if it's called breakdancing or break a hip broken dancing for those of you who might wonder what we're talking about uh MJ posted a great little uh advertisement um is this from one of the Star Wars magazines?

SPEAKER_13 1:07

No it was from uh 1984 or 85 Indiana Jones. Nice nice yeah but I I there were lots of good ads in there but that one particularly tickled my fancy yeah learn learn how to breakdance. Well the thing that really got me was where it said you can get a breakdancing certificate when you finish the the course they send you. Yes um and I was like oh I would love one of those breakdancing certificates.

SPEAKER_01 1:33

I would I would love to go into a doctor's office and see not only do they have their credentials from Yale but also their breakdancing certificate from 1984 or 1985. I'd frame it tell us what uh what what other certificates uh should be on that wall um I'd love to know about that.

SPEAKER_13 1:54

Just imagine like if you had a a breakdancing certificate and anyone questioned your um your credentials you know down on the street corner.

SPEAKER_01 2:01

Just bring out the cardboard and your boom box just chuck it on there.

SPEAKER_13 2:04

Also your certificate in a little frame yeah and that way you know all your homeboys and your fly girls wouldn't be able to question you. You know what that reminds me of now that we've talked just point silently at the certificate.

SPEAKER_00 2:16

Remember that uh episode in the Simpsons where you've got Mo All right to 411 I think I was actually paraphrasing most of it lately but I regret nothing.

SPEAKER_01 2:39

Fantastic is so good.

SPEAKER_13 2:43

Anyway uh we've got a little bit from the bag so let's open it up yeah MJ what do you got oh just a little bit um uh I I had a little bit of feedback regarding um our discussion um I think it was two episodes ago about um uh getting autographs from celebrities. Oh yeah you know we read the letter from uh Return of the Jedi magazine and we were talking about you know uh people getting autographs from Harrison Ford and John Williams and all this sort of stuff and the secretary of yeah and just asking if people had ever you know sent away for for autographs and um producer Kim actually reminded me that back in the day she got some autograph cards sent to her from um a television show that was quite big when we were we were kids. Do you remember the Early Bird show? The Early Bird show yes yeah Marty the Monster.

SPEAKER_01 3:40

Yes Marty the Monster um uh early bird show was um yeah an Australian show channel ten um it was filmed in Melbourne Melbourne yep um uh back a long time ago when I was a kid I was in a I don't know whether I've talked about this on the podcast but I was in a a children's choir which is actually where I met kit producer Kim he he's famous too by the way both of them are they were in a in a video clip.

SPEAKER_13 4:09

Yeah okay well we'll talk yeah that's that's that's for another episode brushes with fame that's for another episode okay but we'll not air um but uh yeah but anyway uh we we were on the Ulibert show at one stage um and uh that's not related I'm I'm yeah I'm getting getting a little bit flustered but anyway she's got she sent away for um uh uh autographs from uh Daryl Cotton who was a former um uh pop star yeah um who was the host of and Marie and Marie yeah um and and she got uh cards with Daryl Cotton's picture and and an autograph on it and Marie then also um a couple of the puppet supporting characters I didn't remember these ones but Mr. and Mrs Tim's oh yes one of them's a zebra and the other one's a tiger I think they kind of looked like Zippy from Sooty and Sweep and Bosley and Bosley Bosley was the one that looked like Zippy from Sooty and Sweep I think it was. It sort of looks like um uh Grover or Cookie Monster perhaps um if it had some sort of head injury definitely definitely Muppet inspired yeah but it's got signatures on them although you know in closer inspection I mean maybe she wouldn't have recognised it when she was a kid but these signatures are printed on the card script scribbled. So they're not actual signatures but she she does also she's got them in a photo album and she does have Darrell Cotton's actual autograph so um yeah so that's it's pretty big time.

SPEAKER_01 5:44

Yeah absolutely for the for the time that show was pretty crazy. It was um and uh there's a great uh if you want to go into YouTube and check it out Marty the Monster takes on a uh big red kangaroo yes in the early bird show yeah that's a pretty uh classic clip iconic iconic Australian clip if you ever want to see what a big red kangaroo can do to a uh a man in a uh in in a in a costume yeah well is uh well Marty Monster wasn't a man in a costume he was a monster right sure but um what are you talking about sorry I pulled back the curtain too far yeah anyway um so that's yeah uh just sort of touching base with that um segment we we still encourage people to let us know about their stories with um successfully or unsuccessfully acquiring uh autographs back in the day particularly by mail um I'm particularly fascinated by the the the prospect of sending away and getting them by mail yeah um and there will be no more questions about what I mentioned about uh being in a children's choir when I was younger um at any stage on the podcast we will uh bring that up at a later date you know you I just I I don't know what I was yeah I didn't I don't know what I was thinking bringing that up that just you dug your hole now you're in it and we're all going to enjoy it. All of that street cred I had is yeah all that breakdancing street cred is gone. Have you seen my certificate? No not yet. Okay well yeah when I've got a certificate put it right next to the sign Marty Monster no one will be able to question anything. You know you know um uh how popular um uh the early bird show was they actually premiered for the first time in Australia the Transformers cartoon okay back in the 80s yeah well it was pretty I mean it seemed pretty big at the time but um you know back back when I was that age I think I might have had a slightly skewed perspective as to what was big. Yeah but um yeah it did it seemed I mean it was definitely a very popular show with our our friends and they brought uh and they also brought the that that trend for uh remote control cars okay as well so remember they had the some some type of dealer on there and they were they were always racing rope remote control cars and then all the kids wanted these ones that they'd put together red hot for a while they were red hot weren't they yeah so I never had one yeah power advertising yeah kind of worked it does they were way too expensive for my taste but pretty much everything we talk on this show is built on it anyway we uh we digress and go down memory lane uh we hope you enjoyed that little part of the bag that's producer kim for the reminder overly revelatory uh nightmare for me but uh if you uh if you've got a signed uh a signed poster or photo or a letter from from a celebrity we'd love to hear about it uh hit us up on the socials under pulp culture pod uh and we'll read it out in the bag uh let's get into the zest all right mr trailers yes have we got any trailers uh not really no i mean the the only one that I can think of is um the the the brief sort of punisher teaser yes um that's been floating around the place um uh but uh no it's not I mean it's not really a trailer it's not really a trailer it's just sort of a promo isn't it it is yeah it's just letting people know that um now the Daredevil um born again is wrapped up uh last week um that the Punishes the next thing on the MC radar yeah definitely and we'll probably talk about the uh have you seen the finale of Daredevil? I have okay well we'll definitely talk about that in the review then yep absolutely um so other than that um oh that trail looked good I'm looking forward to the by the time this episode comes out uh the Punisher one shot will be out won't it?

SPEAKER_13 9:41

Yes I'm due to sit down and watch it pretty much as soon as it comes out tomorrow night.

SPEAKER_01 9:46

Yeah in our time yeah I'm really excited about that. Yeah and and apparently it's um it's got a R rating in the US so I think it's like an M15 plus for us.

SPEAKER_13 9:56

Yeah um well I mean if it it stays on par with the level of violence that was in the Punisher show on Netflix I reckon they'll amp up well but I mean because Dead Everbought again seemed to pretty pretty wild yeah some of those scenes. So if they go any further than that then yeah it'll need a fairly um restrictive rating but um bring it on I say oh absolutely talking about bringing it on what other news have you got in the Zest? Um I've got uh the uh I think since we last recorded they announced that the Bears final season um is is is uh coming out yes in June.

SPEAKER_01 10:32

Um didn't they do a one shot didn't haven't they done like a special or like an episode or getting to that but thank you very much.

SPEAKER_13 10:41

Yes now they dropped um uh it was like a it's just sort of a short film called uh Gary um after Gary Indiana and it's got Evan Moss Bakrak um who plays Richie and the bear and um uh John Berthel who is we were just talking about the Punisher but great segue yeah he plays um um Mickey in um or Michael um in uh the bear um and this is a sort of flashback episode um uh that they just dropped out of nowhere. I haven't actually watched it yet I'm looking forward to uh to watching it but I but again I've had a pretty busy week um but yeah no uh I'm excited that the bear is coming back and coming back relatively soon um June 25 I think is the release date and um uh I'm sad that it's going to be the final season but I'm also kind of excited that it is um it's a story that deserves uh to be able to wrap up on its own terms so um I'm really looking forward to it have you seen the bear?

SPEAKER_01 11:40

No I haven't it's on my list it's just one of those ones that comes up and then goes back down and then comes up and comes back down.

SPEAKER_13 11:47

So it's I mean whenever you get to it you'll be able to and appreciate it because it's um yeah uh it is it's amazing storytelling.

SPEAKER_01 11:55

I might wait until season four is done and then I can then just sort of just make my way through it without you're a bit of a binger. Yeah I'm a bit of a binger.

SPEAKER_13 12:03

It's a good it's a good one to binge. It's um yeah a really amazing show.

SPEAKER_01 12:07

So you'll be able to catch it on uh Disney Plus uh anywhere around the world so um yeah if where wherever that is yeah go for it.

SPEAKER_13 12:15

Um but the only other thing that I had uh was some news that sort of dropped as I was preparing to come over here today. Um and it's just a little bit of news but I thought it was exciting um Darren Chris um uh former um I think he won an Emmy for uh American Horror Story or something like that. Um he was also in Glee. Yeah he used to be on Glee he had a small role as the musicmeister on the Flash on the CW.

SPEAKER_01 12:43

Right I forgot about that that that was the musical episodes that they did.

SPEAKER_13 12:46

It was yeah they sort of came on there because it was a nice nod between him and Grant Guston's relationship from uh being on Glee back in the day. Yeah um and also Melissa Benoist who played Supergirl yeah um anyway he's been cast as Connor Kent in um my adventures with Superman which is which is really interesting right because Connor Kent is a clone essentially of Superman isn't he is um which is fun because um Darren Chris has actually voiced Superman at least twice in um I think they call them the Tomorrowverse. Yes um the the uh DC animated films yes um so yeah effectively he's uh voicing Superman again but uh a clone version which I think is a really you know meta fun sort of reference.

SPEAKER_01 13:39

I I think this I I think this uh season of my adventures with superman is really taking it up another notch because we've got now got Jessica Cruz and we've got um Superboy and the Cyborg Super and the Cyborg Superman it really feels like it's building to something big doesn't it yeah it really does. I I wonder if we'll get some more brainiac or you know we'll we'll see maybe maybe this is where we get a real sort of good taste of Lex we got a little bit in season two well the I mean if we're getting Connor Kent Superboy and we're getting cyborg from Lex Lex it'd have to well maybe I mean yeah probably but I mean if we're getting those two characters Cybalk Superman and Connor um the the natural thing to assume is that we're going to get doomsday.

SPEAKER_13 14:25

Oh that's kind of cool. I mean they they both debuted in the comics in the wake of the death of Superman so um maybe they won't you know maybe they'll they'll go some other direction they might tell their own their their stories um independent of that which would also be fine. But yeah it just makes me wonder whether like you know first we heard heard about Cyborg Superman then we heard about Superboy and are we going to heal hear about um you know we've we've already had steel steel yeah um but are we going to hear about um the Eradicator next yeah I wonder that's what I was thinking.

SPEAKER_01 14:58

I I was wondering if we're gonna get sort of a a reign of the season I think we've had the Eradicator in that show I haven't seen I don't recall it um tell us listeners if we've missed that in the in the series let us know yeah yeah I I could be misremembering or something no I don't I don't remember the Eradicator um but you know it's been a while since we've had the seasons yeah so um yeah it's uh anyway it's I just think it's fun yeah I reckon it's great Darren Chris is a great talent he's a big fan of um uh comics and superheroes and um it's good to have him back in the DC fold yeah it's a great guest yeah absolutely um I've got some interesting news what you got Stephen Amell will be running in slow motion uh on our TVs in January to 2027 reverse flash uh no as Mitch Buchanan in the uh Baywatch reboot oh okay yeah so it's uh been picked up for a pilot um and we'll uh be I'm not too sure where it's gonna be streaming yet but uh yeah it's uh it's coming to a a TV near you um in uh January 2027 with a with a relatively young cast yeah um and it is a reboot from the original is he gonna be playing the Hasselhoff yeah he's playing the Hasselhoff Mitch Buchanan who was the who was the lead um which was originally played by David Hasselhoff back in the 80s yeah um had a very long running uh season uh series yeah and um you know uh I I that was what gave Pamela Anderson her big break really it did um uh as well as a couple others I believe that there'll be it's a bit like you remember when they did 90210 quite a number of years ago and then they sort of had a new cast and then they brought back some of the original cast that sort of floated in and out. Yes. I believe that that's what they're going to do. They're gonna have some of the older cast okay pop in. I don't think Hasselhoff is part of it considering that so who would be because it but surely Pamela Anderson's not coming back. No, no I think I think it's some of the more B grade actors that haven't really sort of gone anywhere.

SPEAKER_13 17:05

No offense on behalf of podcast no offense.

SPEAKER_01 17:09

But you know what?

SPEAKER_13 17:09

Being B grade is better than no grade because I'm no great actor what level of actor would I be um well you were in that film clip. Okay alright yeah yeah yeah yeah no no no I'm sorry I asked moving on uh what else have I got for you have you got any other news or uh no I don't no no I've that's uh about it there just doesn't seem to have been too much around well I've got I've got loads so I'll I'll I'll go through what I've got and then uh and then we can go from there.

SPEAKER_01 17:41

Yeah do it uh so concept art uh has um has uh come out for the uh the up and coming release of Brad Bird's animated film uh Ray Gun um which was uh which there's no release date as of yet yeah I did I saw something about this yeah so Brad Bird if for those of you who don't know um is an iconic artist um he's done things like The Incredibles The Incredibles um yeah lots of the Pixar stuff yeah um and then he he also did um Mission Impossible ghost protocol so he's done heaps of animation stuff but he he uh sort of broke with the the animation to to have a crack at um live action with with that one as well and also Tomorrowland which I know wasn't that super successful such a great one but that was a an another uh movie based on a Disneyland ride yeah um but yeah now the Incredibles Ratatouille um Toy Story 4 I think um yeah a bunch of Pixar stuff um he's an Oscar winner yeah yeah yeah he's a he's he's an icon in the in the industry and I mean this uh Ray Gun has been a a long um gestating um uh project of his yeah and um so you know to have this artwork come out with what's working what what's it about like do you know there's not a lot there's not a lot that's that's given I I believe it's a private detective sort of set in the future yeah um that's really sort of all I know about the premise at this stage. But this one's not a Pixar thing. This one's not a Pixar this is kind of his own sort of you know um production production yeah yeah so um yeah look let's let's see what what what comes about it but um you know that's a a good good step in the right direction that we're we've actually seen something come out um and this is not just from Brad Bird himself trying to sort of hype it up this is coming out from um some of the you know the major news outlets um regarding film so which is fantastic so nice looking forward to that uh we were talking about Batman before um the um uh the logo uh was released for and you know like people go the logo um but uh it it coincides with what the new story for Batman is going to uh in the comics um the Batman series with Fraction and with a Jorge imes yeah Jorge now so there's a new logo like a cover logo coming uh it's called Bad Seeds Batman Bad Seeds uh and this is uh where poison ivy uh will be the new mayor of Gotham okay so um they've kind of been leading up to her in the for those of you who who may not be reading it spoiler alert spoiler alert but they're leading up to her sort of you know uh trying to you know get into office um yeah it's a sort of a culmination of the story that's been being told in G Willow Wilson's Poison Ivy series um which I've really enjoyed by the way um yeah so uh so I I do wonder right I mean how is it that I mean look we know that politicians are not the most you know honest of people at the best of times but you know we're talking about convicted criminals who run the underworld who somehow all become mayor how does that work in Gotham your point being sounds a bit real to me because uh the Penguins being mayor uh we've got uh Savage is it uh Vandal Vandal Savage is a is a commissioner of police commissioner of police we've got uh Poison Ivy who's now gonna be uh you know the new mayor and yeah uh Muscom Fisk is yeah and you know mayor and yeah well what's next uh interesting um yeah well yeah let's keep moving yeah I was gonna say what's what's next uh a former uh reality TV star hosts as as president that's crazy yeah well anyway uh talking about uh Crazy news. Matthew Lillard, uh, I'm not too sure if you saw this, has uh been cast as a undisclosed character in Superman Man of Tomorrow. I did see this and I'm very happy. Yes, and uh the internet has gone in meltdown mode. Why? Speculating what he's going to who he's gonna be.

SPEAKER_13 22:18

Yeah, fair enough. Uh that's that's inevitable.

SPEAKER_01 22:20

The the hot tip is is that he's plastic man. Okay. I hadn't seen that one coming. Yeah, you know what, I can see that. Um and then somebody, and then there was another, so that there's sort of a it's a it's sort of a two-way sort of uh vote count at the moment, um, where the other one was saying that he's Commissioner Gordon, but we haven't even got a Batman yet, so why would we have Commissioner Gordon in um Man of Tomorrow? It doesn't make sense.

SPEAKER_13 22:48

So I could I mean I could see him as Commissioner Gordon as well. So could I he'd he'd sort of be playing against the type of character that he sometimes plays.

SPEAKER_01 22:56

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_13 22:57

Um he'd probably have to tone down the wackiness a bit, and I don't really want that.

SPEAKER_01 23:01

No, I think I I think he's good he's he's well suited for Plastic Man.

SPEAKER_13 23:05

Yeah, I think he's well suited for Plastic Man as well. Um especially as we've just seen him um i in Daredevil, yeah um playing a uh shady type, you know, Elo Bryan, aka Plastic Man as a former criminal that's um uh is trying to turn his uh life around. Um I could I could totally see that.

SPEAKER_01 23:28

A uh also in news this week uh we had a uh an announcement that a new Planet of the Apes movie uh is in the works, okay. Um which is not a sequel or or a put prequel to the long-running reboot franchise. Okay, which is interesting. So unrelated to un unrelated completely to um the anti-circus, you know, um Matt Reeves. Matt Reeves sort of run.

SPEAKER_04 23:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:54

Um this is completely uh completely a sort of a new direction that they're going. So I don't know what that looks like or anything like that. It was just sort of an announcement that uh the studio said that they uh moving forward with a um with a new planet of the apes.

SPEAKER_13 24:10

Okay, well I'm I'm down to see whatever it is that they're gonna give us. So yeah. Enjoyed all the Matt Ree stuff.

SPEAKER_01 24:16

Yeah, 100%. And um, so yeah, we'll let's see see what transpires from there.

SPEAKER_13 24:21

Yeah, I think there's still a lot to be explored in um in that universe in that universe.

SPEAKER_01 24:26

Yeah, absolutely. Um uh talking about reboots uh with uh with Baywatch uh um and we had we talked about with uh producer Kim quite a number of episodes ago with Little House on the Prairie. Yes. Uh another 80s uh property is being rebooted and will be out uh next year or the year after, uh, which is Highway to Heaven is getting a reboot. Okay, interesting. So this was uh Michael Landon. Um he then went on to do uh Highway to Heaven. Yep, and essentially it's about an angel, uh an apprentice angel who comes to Earth to learn how to be an angel by um helping people in need. I think that's what it was. And he had a sort of a grumpy mentor or something or other. I don't really remember the show too much.

SPEAKER_13 25:17

No, I remember it it stuck to a fairly sort of um basic sort of formula.

SPEAKER_01 25:21

Yeah, it was like you know, person in need, they come and help, the person has to redeem themselves before that they can, you know, move forward, and you know, he gets another feather in his wings and moves on. Yeah, I think that's essentially what the premise was, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_13 25:36

Yeah, I think so. Um I could definitely see that working as a a reboot.

SPEAKER_01 25:41

Yeah, yeah. So um, yeah, no, no sort of further information on who it's gonna be or when it's gonna be. Um, but essentially, yeah, that's um that's really interesting and looking forward to it. Yeah, um we were talking uh a number of episodes ago about uh Doctor Who and what that was going to look like. Yes. Um so Doctor Who is definitely confirmed to return uh this year. This year. Um yeah, but not how you as a fan would expect it to be. Okay. Uh so uh essentially the BBC um has finally unveiled more details about um what's to come, um, and it's called Doctor Who's Circuit Breaker, uh, which kicks off a new multi-platform event. Um I believe it's going to be in uh June or July.

SPEAKER_04 26:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 26:31

Um and uh I'll just read you what what what they what they're classifying it as. Uh so Circuit Breaker puts a focus on the fugitive doctor and will unfold across audio, publishing, gaming, and digital for one connected uh universe event. Uh the first chapter titled Calling the Doctor will launch on June 25th. There you go, on the Doctor Who uh inverse uh unit website. Uh the event will run through September and is already confirmed to feature some of the franchise's most iconic Doctor Who antagonists from Dalek's Cybermen um and even uh a weeping angel. So there you go. So I think they're just sort of trying a multi-platform approach to keep Doctor Who alive.

SPEAKER_13 27:22

It's not the show coming back.

SPEAKER_01 27:23

It's not the show coming back. So what they what what they mean with multi-platform, let's late and see, but um yeah, it sounds like a comic, sounds like something that you know, it's some social posts and yeah.

SPEAKER_13 27:35

Well there's um a a a long history of like Doctor Who um being uh utilising the uh audiobook and um audio drama format as well, so maybe there's something good in that. Um yeah, the fugitive doctor was uh played by Joe Martin um uh quite a few seasons ago now, I think. Um and yeah, she was a doctor that sort of uh fit into a timeline in between some of the doctors that we know uh and a bit more a bit more familiar with. Yeah, um she's quite popular, like the actress that plays um uh that doctor, Joe Joe Martin, is um very popular, and that version of the doctor is very popular. So yeah, it'll be interesting to see what comes out of that.

SPEAKER_01 28:20

Yeah, absolutely. I'm looking forward to it at the same time. Um I'm not too sure if you saw um in our time today, we got um a look at what Marvel's next big thing is. Have you seen this?

SPEAKER_13 28:33

Uh is this comics?

SPEAKER_01 28:35

Uh this is in comics.

SPEAKER_13 28:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:36

Uh Midnight. Have you seen the post for Midnight?

SPEAKER_13 28:39

I've seen the logo floating around, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:41

Right, okay. So I've got a little bit more information that sort of popped up uh later this afternoon for us. Yep. Um, so Marvel is introducing uh their uh their new title or universe called Midnight. Yeah. Um and it's a bold new publishing line from a superstar lineup of creators, kicking off in August with Midnight X-Men by Jonathan Hickman and Mateo Delafonte, uh, followed by Midnight Fantastic Four by uh Benjamin Percy and Kev Walker, and then Midnight Spider-Man by Philip Kennedy Johnson, and uh I'm not gonna even pronounce his name. Uh no, neither am I. I'm gonna say Cy Tronk. Okay, let's go with that. Um so it's dark, unpredictable, and unmissable.

SPEAKER_13 29:31

So it's a different universe.

SPEAKER_01 29:32

The Midnight Universe draws in uh long time uh longtime fans and newcomers alike to enter a terrifying new world where anything can happen. In connected interconnected by a rich law building, Marvel's most definitive modern uh creators are given free reign to reimagine heroes with shocking twists and chilling transformations in boundary-less storytelling that will keep readers on edge, issue after issue. So this is absolute marvel. This is absolute marvel at its best. And we were talking about this, it was only a matter of time. Yeah, and this is what it is. It says the X-Men no longer fight for acceptance, they hunt for blood. The Fantastic Four venture into the unknown, not to save the world, but to unleash terror upon it, and Spider-Man discovers that with great power comes something monstrous.

SPEAKER_13 30:26

Have they explained what the the meaning of midnight is in all of that?

SPEAKER_01 30:30

Zero. So we've got an we've got an image now, um, which I'm showing MJ. So it looks like more vampires. It looks like more vampires. We've got uh Storm who is uh has some blood dripping out of her mouth. Yeah, and we've got uh um a night crawler who kind of looks like a cleric where with a very big sword. Yeah, um, and that's that's the only imagery that we've got at this stage. Okay. Um what's what's the most surprising about this announcement is that Jonathan Hickman is running it. So um that's not really surprising though, is it?

SPEAKER_13 31:05

Like that he's he's I mean, his MO is running big Marvel um events.

SPEAKER_01 31:12

Yeah. So anyway, um it'll be interesting to see what this kind of looks like in August. Yeah. Um, yeah, but like you say, it's it's uh absolute marvel. That's uh so they've finished their ultimate universe. Yeah. Um and they're going to run with this.

SPEAKER_13 31:30

Starting fresh. Okay. Starting fresh. Interesting. I would like more information.

SPEAKER_01 31:35

I would like to see more more uh imagery.

SPEAKER_13 31:38

Like the the stuff you were reading out, there's a lot of like hyperbole there. Oh, absolutely. Not a lot of uh sort of hard data about exactly what it's about. But um, I look forward to finding out more.

SPEAKER_01 31:49

Yeah, this is a hype campaign to get people excited about it.

SPEAKER_13 31:52

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:53

Um and uh and so And we love those, we're nerds. Yeah, watch this space and we will um but uh yeah the uh the internet is uh uh obviously you know drawing the same conclusions that we are, which is uh this is a absolute universe for for Marvel.

SPEAKER_13 32:10

And I've got no real problem with that, to be honest.

SPEAKER_01 32:12

Yeah, I just I just hope that it's good, you know, um and it uh encourages more to to buy more comics.

SPEAKER_13 32:19

I guess they've got to try from a certain perspective, don't they? Because I mean the absolute stuff is so successful for DC. Yeah, it's still largely dominating the the sales charts. Yes, it is. So you can't blame Marvel for having a another crack. So um yeah, it'd be interesting. But I'm I'm I'm eager for more information.

SPEAKER_01 32:38

Oh absolutely, and um and when we when we have that more information, we'll bring it to you uh further on the zest. We will. Alright, well that's it for the zest. I think we should get into your favorite segment of uh of the show, MJ, the weird files.

SPEAKER_13 32:59

Oh yay. Did I sound genuinely enthusiastic? Absolutely, you did. Uh okay after last week's like last week's was a cracker, so yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, I am. I'm pumped this time.

SPEAKER_01 33:11

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_13 33:12

Um I've decided I've decided to be more positive.

SPEAKER_01 33:14

Well, we talked about wrestling last week and I talked about Dan Housen. Yes. And you have uh obviously are you on the Danhausen wagon now? Are you on the train?

SPEAKER_13 33:25

Do you want me to talk about it now or do you want me to talk about it later in the review?

SPEAKER_01 33:28

Oh, let's go in the review. Okay, let's yeah, stay tuned, listeners. This is gonna be great. Um no no comment. All right, well, while we're talking about weird things, uh you've got three to choose from this week. Deal with this choice. Yes. We have uh Taco Smuggler, we have Kanye Concert Air, and we have Ikea Stowaway. Now, I'll just read those again while you're thinking about it. You don't have to go with the one that's still left over. Okay. You can take any door that you'd like. Well, I've already decided. Taco Smuggler, Kanye Concert Air, or IKEA Stowaway. Yeah, no, it's alright. I've already decided.

SPEAKER_13 34:04

Um, I've got to go backwards just a bit though. Yeah. And I've got to uh take point. I was listening to uh one of our previous episodes.

SPEAKER_04 34:12

Yes.

SPEAKER_13 34:12

And you keep calling these dealers' choice, right?

SPEAKER_04 34:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 34:15

But you're the dealer. So are they really dealers' choice? Like, isn't dealers wouldn't dealer's choice be if you read them all out and you decide which I've chosen them and I'm just dealing with it.

SPEAKER_01 34:27

I just want you to choose which one.

SPEAKER_13 34:28

I just want you to think about your words a bit more. Okay. Because it hadn't occurred to me until I listened to our last episode. And then when I listened to it, I thought, hang on, that's not quite right.

SPEAKER_01 34:38

I do not retract my statement.

SPEAKER_13 34:40

Okay. Look, you're you're welcome. I'm just as a bit of a word nerd, I just had to pull you up on that. So um, but you're welcome to keep using the shortcut.

SPEAKER_01 34:48

Sure, thank you. I I I love it. Um which one are you going for?

SPEAKER_13 34:53

Uh the IKEA one.

SPEAKER_01 34:54

Oh, IKEA.

SPEAKER_13 34:55

Okay, so we're going to as a former IKEA employee. I cannot resist what I cannot resist hearing what this one's all about.

SPEAKER_01 35:03

Those were good old days. Uh yeah, you you're really bringing out the the vault of of memories here for for this episode.

SPEAKER_13 35:10

Well, I'm a very old man. I've done a lot of things.

SPEAKER_01 35:12

Yeah. All right. Florida man. Excellent. Sorry, Florida. We don't we don't mean to pick on you, but uh there's got to be something in the in the air or the water or the sunshine.

SPEAKER_13 35:25

All right. Um, let's just go back a little bit again. Um, we're not sorry. Well, Florida. Thank you for bringing us. It's on you, it's on you. Um, you keep doing weird stuff.

SPEAKER_01 35:35

Yep.

SPEAKER_13 35:36

Too many of these stories start with Florida man. There's something going on. Um pull up your socks, do it a bit better.

SPEAKER_01 35:44

And um or don't, because we love the we we won't have any more stories for the weird files.

SPEAKER_13 35:48

And stop voting for criminal weirdos.

SPEAKER_01 35:52

Florida man arrested after living inside an Ikea for 11 days. Now I was going to call this Kia's 11, but IKEA's 11, but uh I thought that might be misleading. So um it's tough to say. So an Ikea's 11.

SPEAKER_13 36:05

Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_01 36:05

Yeah, no, it just doesn't work. Well, it it might sound like it's something that you put together.

SPEAKER_13 36:09

We've got a the name of our podcast is enough of a tongue twister we don't we don't need another one.

SPEAKER_01 36:15

Um so after living inside an IKEA for 11 days, by assembling and sleeping in a different display bed each night and eating exclusively from the cafeteria. Oh. Uh the 54-year-old flo uh Orlando, Florida man was arrested uh Tuesday. Uh this is obviously when it was posted, after staff discovered that he had been fully uh been a full-time resident of uh the IKEA um Conroy Road uh store for 11 consecutive days, rotating through display beds nightly and eating three cafeteria meals per day with the uh with the uh settled routine of a man who found what worked for him. Wow. According to the arrest report, Sims had entered the store on Tuesday and missed closing and made a decision. Uh 11 days of uh documented uh uh residency. Here it goes. Sims slept in a different display bed each night, always fully assembled with throw pillows arranged correctly. He ate meatballs for breakfast on seven of the 11 days. Very nice. He showed he showered in the bathroom sink using hand soap and paper towels. Okay, with a system staff described as remarkably efficient. He had uh reorganized obviously following the instructions. He had reorganized two display kitchens and left notes suggesting better storage options.

SPEAKER_13 37:52

Well now we know how he amused himself.

SPEAKER_01 37:54

Customers had asked him for advice on four separate occasions. Oh my goodness. And he had helped all of them. Staff had assumed that he was a very committed shopper until day eight when an employee noticed that he had a uh preferred uh cafeteria table and a loyalty card that he had filled completely. Right. Uh the uh the officer said that upon filing the report, he had a favorite bed, he had a regular order, and he tipped the cafeteria staff 11 days and nobody asked a single question. That says as much about IKEA as it does about the about the man himself.

SPEAKER_13 38:34

Was he uh does he have a home of his own or don't know? We don't know.

SPEAKER_01 38:39

It says IKEA has re has reviewed its uh its closing procedures and Randy rated his stay four stars and said that the mattress selection was guaranteed excellence.

SPEAKER_13 38:49

Yeah, I mean there there are opportunities here for IKEA because you know, in terms of like um employment. Well, in terms of rating the beds at least. Yeah, like um, you know, if you could give them star ratings or something like that, then that'd be helpful, wouldn't it?

SPEAKER_01 39:05

Yeah, that's fantastic. Yeah, Randy's Randy's star ratings. So um, yeah, it's fantastic. Good good on you, Randy. Well done on uh missing closing and uh deciding just to live at IKIF for 11 days.

SPEAKER_13 39:18

My favorite thing about that, and um it's partly because I'm a little bit jealous, is um having Swedish meatballs for seven breakfasts out of eleven. Um that sounds ideal to me.

SPEAKER_01 39:28

Oh I I just loved that he uh assembled his own uh beds each night, you know, and uh rearrange the uh the kitchen cupboards.

SPEAKER_13 39:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:38

Good on you.

SPEAKER_13 39:38

Oh well, uh like I said, you you've got to find some way to keep yourself amused. Yeah, well done. All of the TVs in there are fake. So all of the TVs are fake, and so are the books, I think.

SPEAKER_01 39:49

I wonder if he could empty enter one of those uh you know flat pack assembly competitions by by 11 days, he'd be pretty good at doing it.

SPEAKER_13 39:57

He'd be like one of those um Rubik's Cube kids you see on Instagram.

SPEAKER_01 40:00

Yeah, all those speed puzzles.

SPEAKER_13 40:01

Yeah, it'd be like assembling a bet in five five minutes or less.

SPEAKER_01 40:06

Oh so uh there you go. That's the weird files. Hey listeners, if you've got a weird files for us, please let us know. I mean, I I've got plenty on my list. Does that mean you're running out of them? No, definitely. I said I've got plenty on my list. I just I just want to give our listeners the opportunity. If they've if they've got a weird file that they want to want to alert me to, um please tag me in it or tag uh pop culture pod and uh we'll definitely uh read it out on the weird files, especially wrestling ones. Yeah, yes, absolutely. I I wonder what happened. You know what I did do while we're talking about that last story from last week.

SPEAKER_04 40:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:41

Um go to uh episode 27 in the weird files and you'll hear about what we're what we're talking about now. I actually went and looked to see if I could find the t-shirts that he was selling. Yes, to see if they were online. Yeah, haven't been able to find them. I was really disappointed because I was gonna buy you one. So I would wear them. Yeah, so uh anyway, uh we I haven't been able to find it, but I'll I'll continue my search to see if I can find on that. Find the one popping up.

SPEAKER_13 41:11

Many months till Christmas.

SPEAKER_01 41:13

Yep. Hey, we uh we have uh we have neglected you listeners by uh not bringing you anything from the tomb. However, this week we've got news. Are we back? We are back, we're back, uh we're back better than the dead. Um and uh uh Brendan Brendan Fraser appeared on the uh tonight show with Jimmy Fallon um this this last week. Yes, um, and said uh and and quoting him here that the only way to do it, as in the Mummy 4, yeah, um, is by getting the band back together, shooting in in the same locations that we know, and uh to get this 57-year-old, as in himself, into shape. Right. So uh he's obviously on a bit of a uh bit of a plan to uh to reduce the weight and get into into shape.

SPEAKER_13 42:14

Well, we'd heard that he'd been working out, hadn't we?

SPEAKER_01 42:16

Yeah, yeah. It doesn't look like it yet on the show, um, but it's obviously early days. That's brutal. Well, I mean, you know, uh TV does in you know add on a 10 pounds to you.

SPEAKER_13 42:26

So he's 57.

SPEAKER_01 42:29

Yeah, well that's what he said. He said he's 57 years old, so it's gonna take him a little bit longer. Um, I uh thanks to producer Kim, she sent me a a video saying that uh, you know, um I don't think any any woman's really going to uh be upset about you know his dad bod. No. Um but uh yeah I I I would love to see uh a trim down um Brendan Fraser um and see see what he what he has to offer at 57.

SPEAKER_13 42:56

Yeah, you can do a few push-ups and get the arm cannons in. Absolutely, it'll be great. In gear, then um yeah, but I think we will be happy.

SPEAKER_01 43:02

Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. So yeah, that's it for the tomb. We're back. Yes, uh very much so. Uh shall we get on to the aisle? We should. Okay.

SPEAKER_13 44:46

Have you been reading this week? I have been reading this week. What have you been reading this week, Nate?

SPEAKER_01 44:50

Uh I have uh read an exceptionally excellent uh first issue. Right. And we talked about first issues and why do we have first issues? And you know, there was a bit of a argy bargy about doing first issues. Which uh which one have you read? But this is uh a first issue from Dynamite, and it's a first issue that we haven't seen for quite some time.

SPEAKER_04 45:12

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 45:13

Ben 10. So uh the comic uh the uh it was originally a comic book series, which then became uh the um the breakout uh cartoon. Yeah, uh which cartoon network back in the which which spawned like four what different uh four or five different series, I think it was.

SPEAKER_13 45:33

Yeah, and also a couple of live action straight to TV movies.

SPEAKER_01 45:36

Yeah, yeah. So um they've uh they've released a uh a first issue. Um and this feels very much like a absolute Ben 10.

SPEAKER_13 45:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 45:48

Um so we're starting at the origin story of how he gets the Omnitrix, which is the watch that he wears, um, and it has the DNA of different aliens, and it activates and he becomes that that particular alien. Um, the reason that it's Ben 10 is because there's only 10 uh aliens that are registered on the Omnitrix that he can use. Yeah. Um, but like the greatest American hero, he doesn't have instructions and he, you know, he and he's only 10. And so, you know, um fun ensues. Nice symmetry. Nice, yeah. Did you like that? Yeah, um, so uh this is uh done by uh uh Joe Casey, who was originally part of the team of Man on uh Man of Action. Um so he sort of revisited the character again.

SPEAKER_04 46:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:38

Uh so this is written by uh Joe Casey, who was uh part of Man on uh Man of Action, yeah. Uh and the art is done by uh Robert Carey. Um but this is I I I actually really dug this book, it was really different. Um now you you've kind of got a bit of a a smile on your face there, so you obviously know about this book or have you read this book?

SPEAKER_13 47:02

Um I'm very familiar with the existence of this book. Yeah, okay. The reason being is that uh physically it's not available for sale in Australia. Oh there's a there's a rights issue.

SPEAKER_01 47:14

Oh, is there really?

SPEAKER_13 47:15

There is so interesting we we can't get it in the shop.

SPEAKER_01 47:19

Wow, so I've got it on uh Comics Olmegy, so yeah, so presumably digitally you can you can get it.

SPEAKER_13 47:25

Yeah, um but but physically, because of uh some sort of rights issue with the rights owners, um, we're not able to get it into Australia. Wow. And therefore not able to sell it. Wow and so I'm very familiar with it because we've had to keep telling people sorry, sorry, we can't get it. And this week in particular, that's been difficult because that there's been a lot of news about the first run having sold out and it and it going to second printing. Oh no. Um, which obviously has increased uh hype for it. And um, you know, my um eldest son was a big fan of Ben 10 back in the day. Um, and so he's 20 now, um, and so are a lot of comic readers.

SPEAKER_04 48:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 48:10

And so there's a lot of kids who knew Ben 10 when it was at its the height of its popularity who are dying to read this comic and we can't get it for them. So well, hence hence the uh Rye smile.

SPEAKER_01 48:22

Well, there you go. Here's an exclusive for you for you guys. Um uh I've read it and it is well worth the hype. It is it is great. It's um you know a nice retelling of the origin story. Uh, we are seeing um familiar characters like uh forearms um and heat blast um are the two familiar characters that we have in this book in this first issue. In this first issue. Yep. Um not only do we have um now uh as in the original series we had Vilgax, which was the which was the villain.

SPEAKER_04 49:00

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 49:01

Uh he wants to uh possess the Omnitrix so that he can have the ultimate power. Okay. Um he he's semi-deformed in this in this uh this new version of Ben 10. Okay. Um and not only do we have him who will be after the Omnitrix, we also have uh the army, the US Army, who uh want to track him down as well based on uh you know an alien um you know substance that crashed in on Earth.

SPEAKER_13 49:29

So to make a comparison, this is a uh retelling of Ben 10 along the lines of what IDW did with the turtles years ago.

SPEAKER_01 49:39

Uh I think this is a little bit more adult. Um, this feels a little bit more grown up. Um this is you know, you were talking about your son who was a fan of Ben 10 back then, yeah, now a grown man. He will enjoy this new retelling because it it caters to more towards um, you know, his age group. Okay, interesting. Um and so um yeah, I I like I said, I really thought this was a a great first issue. Um, the artwork is is is really fun. I I really really really enjoyed the artwork in this. I think that it's great that um Joe Casey's back, you know, writing that retelling of what that looks like.

SPEAKER_04 50:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:23

Um the other thing too, and the reason I keep going back to the it feels a little bit like absolute is because the way that he transforms is not as fun and as exciting as it as it was in the cartoon. Okay. This is a little bit more sort of creepy and you know, horrific. Um, and so I kind of like that idea of what they're sort of trying to achieve with that.

SPEAKER_13 50:44

So body horror types.

SPEAKER_01 50:46

It's kind of a little bit body body body horror without it being too graphic.

SPEAKER_04 50:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:50

Um, but yeah, it's it's it is interesting. And the and the uh the aliens that he's turning into are not necessarily exactly the same as what they what you remember them to be back in the cartoon.

SPEAKER_13 51:04

That's a bit more of a nuance take on Ben.

SPEAKER_01 51:06

Absolutely, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_13 51:07

So I'm definitely interested to hear to to read it. Yeah, it is good. I mean, uh from one perspective, it is good to hear that it's at least available digitally for us to read here. Um I think we're hoping that at some stage it'll get collected into a trade paperback and that might be able to dodge the the rights issue that the single issues have have encountered. But um what a fortunate situation. It really is. Um, because yeah, as I said, we've had a lot of people coming in asking about it, and I'd be reading it myself, to be honest, um, just for the nostalgia factor.

SPEAKER_01 51:39

Um I wonder who here in Australia is um is plugging that hole for us not to be able to uh go through.

SPEAKER_13 51:46

Yeah, we're not sure. Obviously, you know, someone's got the rights to distribute um either Bent 10 merchandise or publications in Australia and is opting at this stage not to. I'm gonna or no one's taken up the rights, perhaps. Maybe they've lapsed. I I'm not sure what the situation is.

SPEAKER_01 52:02

I'm gonna put on my uh Batman detective cow this week and I'm gonna go do some investigating. Do it, gonna try and find out, get to the bottom of this, yeah, and uh let's bring Ben Ten to Australia.

SPEAKER_13 52:13

Yeah. Just just make sure you don't do it long enough to become the villain. Yeah. Just for for us, that'll make it be difficult to do the podcast if you're in Arkham Asylum.

SPEAKER_01 52:26

I'm sure I can zoom, do a zoom call with you.

SPEAKER_13 52:28

Oh, I don't know, I don't know about that. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what Arkham's policy on Zoom is.

SPEAKER_01 52:33

If Poison Ivy can become mayor, anything's possible. Good point. Right? Yeah, good point.

SPEAKER_13 52:38

Yeah. Okay, all right. What have you been reading? I'll breathe easy. Um I've been reading a whole lot of stuff, bits, bits and pieces. Um I've been reading um some Zatana, but not the new series. Right. I've been reading the mini-series that uh preceded it. So it's still by Jamal Campbell, who's writing and drawing the um the new series that's just uh debuted uh to great success, I should add. Um Zatana number one, the new um uh debut of that series, um has uh was actually the the top selling comic in the world last week. Oh so outselling all of the absolute books and anything else from many of the other companies, um, which I think's wonderful. That's interesting. Yeah and great to see a character um that's a bit you know a little less mainstream uh selling a book so well. So yeah, it's a really good time uh for for Zatana fans like me. But yeah, I've been reading the miniseries that's um that uh sort of uh leading up to that um and really enjoying it. Um it's got not just Zatana but other characters like uh Blue Devil and um I think we've had Etrigon and stuff in it as well, and um it's really really good fun.

SPEAKER_01 53:52

Where's Blue Devil these days? What's he uh what's he up to?

SPEAKER_13 53:55

I think he's working at the Oblivion Bar, okay, which is the um where all the the um magic users uh of the DC universe hang out. He's polishing glasses and wiping down bars. Something like that. Like he's basically being huge and swole and blue and wearing a tight t-shirt and sweet talking the um the patrons.

SPEAKER_01 54:16

Yeah, okay, good on him.

SPEAKER_13 54:17

I think that's what he's doing.

SPEAKER_01 54:18

Oh well, tip tip tip your barman.

SPEAKER_13 54:20

But he's in a bit of grief in this series, so um, yeah, no, he's he's not just doing that. Um but but yeah, um really enjoying Zatana. Um I've been reconnecting with uh something is killing the children. Oh, yeah. I finished uh uh the volume seven trade, which had an ending that kind of blew my head off, like it really um was uh a full-on graphic uh shock moment. A real shock moment, like I did not see an ending like that coming.

SPEAKER_01 54:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_13 54:52

I won't spoil it obviously, but yeah, um the end of volume seven was was quite something.

SPEAKER_01 54:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_13 54:58

Um and I've started reading volume eight, which is uh actually going back a bit. Yeah, um, it's not following on completely from seven, it's telling some stories from uh Erica Slaughter, the main character's past. Um but it just is enjoyable. Um yeah, it's nice to be able to go back and fill in some of those gaps in her history because she's um uh for a young woman, she's had uh very uh uh eventful and and confronting life. Um so yeah, I'm uh enjoying uh reconnecting with Something Is Killing the Children.

SPEAKER_01 55:29

So so for those of us who haven't read it, I haven't read it yet. I I I definitely want to get onto it, but I haven't, it's definitely not at the top of my list. Yeah. What is uh for those of us who haven't read it, what's it about?

SPEAKER_13 55:41

Yeah, cool. Um Something Is Killing the Children is by um uh James Tinnian the Fourth, uh-huh. Um written but by James Tinney the Fourth, um and it's uh uh illustrated by uh I I'm gonna attempt to pronounce the name, Wertha uh Wertha Del Daria?

SPEAKER_01 56:01

Let's go with that.

SPEAKER_13 56:02

Absolutely butchering that, but I haven't got it in front of me, and and it is um better than what I would do. It's a lengthy name. But uh Werther, I'm gonna say. Well Werther. Um uh and it's about Erica Slaughter, who um is um monster hunter for or for uh w what it's worth. Right. Um she is part of a a broader organization of monster hunters who go out and basically uh take it upon themselves to to hunt monsters in the night.

SPEAKER_03 56:29

Cool.

SPEAKER_13 56:30

Um the original story uh is pretty much about what the title um implies. Yeah. Um there's uh something in a small town in um uh fairly rural America, I think, um, killing children. Um and Erica rocks up to try and find out what it is, um, to to try and prevent other kids from getting killed. Um and yeah, it it basically progresses from there. Um there's a lot of uh um tumultuous um relationships within the organization from which Erica comes from. Um it reminds me uh a little bit of um uh Stranger Things, but with more of a slasher sort of feel. Um you know the the the the art by Werter is um very uh dynamic and stylized. Um it's beautiful really, but um it does get very graphic and violent, but it's not in a um a particularly vivid sort of way. Right, okay. So it's it's more just a bit like a Tarantino sort of film. Sure. Um But uh the character of Erica Slaughter is amazing. Like she's um been through a lot of trauma herself. Uh her her the position she's in is a is a result of her own um you know brushes with monsters in the dark and and and losing family and stuff. Um it's a really great series. Um I've been reading it for some time and there's uh still a couple of volumes to go. They're up to volume nine now. Yeah, but I don't want to read it too quickly because I don't want it to end. Um uh it's still ongoing, but um yeah, it's it it is it's a really great read, and everybody that I recommend it to um has has always loved it.

SPEAKER_01 58:17

Is it James Tinnian the fourth? The fourth. He is am I right in saying that he does exquisite corpses? Is did he write exquisite corpses? Yeah, he does, yeah, right.

SPEAKER_13 58:28

He's very prolific.

SPEAKER_01 58:29

I thought it, I thought it the name sounded familiar.

SPEAKER_13 58:32

He had a long run on Batman, yeah um quite a number of years ago now. Um he's also uh I think it's Nice House on the Lake, um, which I've got in my reading pile, but I haven't read yet. I'm gonna read that after something is killing the children.

SPEAKER_05 58:47

Yep.

SPEAKER_13 58:48

Um yeah, Exquisite Corpses and and a whole bunch of others. Um basically he's a bit like Robert Kirkman. Anything that I've read of his, um, I've really enjoyed. Yeah, and I think that tends to be the general consensus. If you enjoy one of his books, then you tend to like the rest.

SPEAKER_01 59:03

Has the series finished now?

SPEAKER_13 59:04

I don't think so. No, I just think it's still going.

SPEAKER_01 59:06

It's an ongoing. I think it's still going.

SPEAKER_13 59:07

It's one of those, it's one of those a bit like uh saga. Um they uh are very careful to keep uh not just the writing but also the art consistent. Right, and so they they only publish it when they can. Um uh Werter uh took a break um at one stage to do a an Elseworld series for for DC, um, which was called Green Lantern Dark. Yes, I remember that. That was awesome. Very similar sort of feel, yeah, and and clearly look, uh being the same uh artist visual um team and the same colourist as well, I think. Right, okay. Um so yeah, it is, it's it's just a really great read. Um, as I say, I recommend it to all sorts of people, and and I've never had anyone um come back and say that they haven't enjoyed it. I'm sure I'm sure there are people that don't enjoy it. Um as I said, it's fairly heavy material sometimes. Um, but it's it's really great, really stylized. Um, it's a real uh page turner. Um yeah, really, really great read.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:05

Sounds rad. Yeah. Looking forward to it.

SPEAKER_13 1:00:07

Yeah, I'm sure you'll enjoy it.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:08

Yeah, what else have you been reading?

SPEAKER_13 1:00:09

Uh I also read uh Batman number nine, so Matt Fractions uh behind you. Yeah, well, this is the latest issue that that came out. Um I wanted to read this one because I had heard that it was uh a precursor to the upcoming Barbara Gordon breakout series. Oh yes, yeah, which I think comes out next week.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:28

Where she's in jail.

SPEAKER_13 1:00:29

She's in jail, yeah. Um, and it certainly is. Like the this the the events of this issue sort of set up what's gonna be happening. Um it's a really great issue. It's it's a bit different because it's not illustrated by Jorge Jimenez, who does the cover. Um, yes, seemingly, but it's um it is uh uh illustrated by Ryan Sook, who's um one of my favorite artists. Yeah um and he does a great job. Like it's a very different art style to Jorge, yeah. Um, but uh it's a really dynamic issue, um uh very action-packed at the start. Um, some really good stuff with some of the um supporting Bat Family cast. Yep. Um we get to see Tim Drake and um uh Stephanie Brown, Duke Thomas, uh a whole bunch of the others, uh Damien, of course. Um, and yeah, it's a really great build-up to the climax of the story, which as I said leads directly into uh what we're gonna see in Barbara Gordon breakout. So um that was a really, a really good read. I really enjoyed that issue.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:31

I'm I'm looking forward to that. I've got that in my pile. I said a couple episodes ago that I was gonna get up to date with Batman. Yes. I've read four and five now, nice, which is the introduction of uh Minotaur, which is uh sort of the new big bad for Batman.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:47

Yep, yep.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:47

Um, and really love the direction where it's going.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:50

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:51

Love that um what a creepy looking guy though, like with his hands. Like that's that's pretty freaky out.

SPEAKER_13 1:01:58

Yes, very strange.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:59

Yeah, very, very strange.

SPEAKER_13 1:02:00

So you know the character the character designs that a Jorge comes up with are pretty wild. Oh yeah, but definitely very wild, yeah, very sort of complex character designs. Yeah, um, but but really fresh, yeah, really different.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:12

Yeah, um I love that, yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:02:14

Um yeah, so I don't know, it's it's a really great book. Um, and I'm I'm glad that I'm keeping up to date with that one.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:20

Yeah, well, I I I'm gonna sort of keep pressing on now. That's kind of at the top of my list, and I'll push everything else down because I want to get up to nine now.

SPEAKER_13 1:02:28

So yeah, no, we'll definitely do, especially if you want to um keep up with Barbara Gordon Breakout, which yeah, I think is is gonna be a bit of a series that people are gonna be talking about. We've certainly had a lot of orders for it in the shop.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:39

Yeah, good.

SPEAKER_13 1:02:40

Um, and yeah, I think she's a character that you know people really care about at the moment, and um they're looking forward to seeing what that storyline entails.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:47

I know I am I wonder what I wonder what uh Dick's gonna do without Barbara, you know, in jail.

SPEAKER_13 1:02:53

Yeah, well uh he won't be our usual happy boy, will he? No, no, no, um yeah, I'm fascinated by that too. I'm I'm interested to see. Yeah, and the re and uh the this um has the the potential to impact several of the Gotham books. Um you know, Nightwing, Batman, obviously. Um, and yeah, uh uh uh as I said, I won't spoil the end, um but but it's but it certainly is a bit of a game changer, so um uh it it's interesting to see where it's gonna go. Yeah. Um the other thing that I've been reading is I I read uh another one of my free comic book day books, um, which was uh a a reprint of the old um Lock and Key number one. Okay. Um I'd never read Lock and Key, and I haven't watched any of the shows.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:39

Oh, you haven't watched the show?

SPEAKER_13 1:03:40

No, I've I've not watched it. The show was great. I think I haven't watched the show because I think I probably thought I was I wanted to read the book on a stage. I don't know. I just never got around to it.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:03:50

Um and I'd heard that the show was good. Um but I just happened to pick up the the this first issue as a a free comic book day freebie. Um and I really loved it. That's like it's really it's really dark. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:04

Um look, the comic's a lot darker than the the the the series was. The series was more family friendly and the likes of um you know stranger things. Well, it's more stranger things.

SPEAKER_13 1:04:16

Yeah, exactly. I mean this this sort of reminded me of the the the same sort of tone that we get in something is killing the children. You know, it's it it's it's sometimes dark to the point of being confronting, but um in a way that just sort of adds gravity and substance to the story.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:30

Yep.

SPEAKER_13 1:04:30

Um and and yeah, because I enjoyed that so much, um, I grabbed uh the the first two story runs, I think, of Lock and Key are now available in um it's not called a compact edition, but it's like a compact edition. Yeah, sure. Um so like a smaller format. Um and I grabbed that. Um so I'm really looking forward to getting into more Lock and Key. Um once I've read these uh first two volumes. Um my plan is to watch some of the show.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:58

Yeah, that's that's cool. What what uh it it's an interesting um to do a re-release for free comic book day.

SPEAKER_13 1:05:04

I wonder whether they've got plans to IDW, who publishes Lock and Key, yeah, have been doing um and again, I can't remember what they what they're called, I haven't got it in front of me, but as DC's been doing their DC Compact Comics, um uh uh Marvel's been doing their epic collections, they're like a smaller format book, sort of uh more akin to like a manga size. Yeah. Um uh IDW have also been doing their um sort of uh classic collections of some of their uh classic uh uh books.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:39

Yeah, they call it classic collection.

SPEAKER_13 1:05:40

Classic collection, there we go. Yeah, I knew that it was close. Yeah, um one of them's lock and key, another one's uh there's a Godzilla book. Yep. Um there's uh Rocketeer um that collects uh a lot of yes, I know. I've got I've I think I've already got all those stories um in other formats, but I am very tempted by the Rocketeer one. Um it's got Spectacular uh Dave Stevens cover. Oh, very cool. Um, but yeah, no, I I uh decided to buy it in that smaller format. But that's why they're advertising it on a free comic book day because it's a key part of their um classic collection. I liked what you did, their key part. Yeah, I meant that. I definitely absolutely meant that.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:22

Yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_13 1:06:23

Yeah. So you locked that one right up. Yeah, so weird how my brain does that to me all the time. Um anyway, uh yeah, no, that's that's another thing that I've I've grabbed a hold of and I'm looking forward to reading because yeah, I really enjoyed the the first um the first issue from Free Comic Book.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:39

Yeah, I don't think you'll be disappointed in reading those those those issues, those those volumes. Um yeah, it's a great series. Um and um TV shoe, like I said, it's a little bit different, it's a little bit more sort of you know, uh family friendly. Yeah, which is fine. Has some darker tones, but it's still still a great series. Yeah. I think it was four of four seasons, I think it ran for. Yeah, I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_13 1:06:59

I haven't had a look yet, but uh uh I'll I'll definitely watch those, but I think I'm gonna um uh read through these first two story arcs that that I think are contained in this um uh compact edition. Yeah, nice because um yeah, I really enjoyed the first issue.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:15

Yeah, so good. Yeah. Anything else on your list?

SPEAKER_13 1:07:17

Uh no, that's about it. I've been reading uh single issues and bits and pieces here and there. I've been reading the latest issue of um uh Comics the Magazine uh with the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles on the cover. Um but I've only just started that. I've read um the uh first part of the article, which is a um uh an interview with Kevin Eastman about the origins of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and that was really interesting. It's a real um uh uh interesting sort of um look back at the the timeline of exactly how it all happened when he and Peter Laird created the the icons.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:07:53

Um but yeah, no, just just uh yeah, bits and pieces.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:57

Did you see the uh in in our time today, the post from J. Scott Campbell for issue 20 or issue 300? I think. Yeah. Yeah, I did. Interesting.

SPEAKER_13 1:08:09

Yeah, it looks good. I mean, uh uh as usual, it's he's got sort of a female character in the middle of it, um, which is fine. April O'Neill looking very she's the you know, the heart of the team in many ways. So um it's a great cover. Um and the images of of the four turtles look look great as well. Yeah, um, definitely one I'll get a hold of. I think he's doing the standard cover. Yeah. I think it is the standard cover and it's available in that and uh like a um a naked sort of artwork um uh artwork only cover.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:08:42

Um, but yeah, no, I'm I'm excited about that. I would have liked to have done a good job.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:47

Yeah, I would have liked to see the villains as well, like him doing the like a wraparound with the villains. Yeah, maybe you'll do some sub subsequent ones.

SPEAKER_13 1:08:54

I think that would have been rad. Uh tell you what, if this thing sells as well as um a lot of his covers sell, then they'll they'll they'll pay him to do another one.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:02

Yeah, yeah. Are people buying turtle comics in when you're when you're in store? I mean because it's a good great series.

SPEAKER_13 1:09:09

I don't know if you've read it yet, but um I've yeah, no, I've been reading uh I jumped back on board with the uh IDW Turtles in trade form a number of years ago, yeah just because I wanted to read some of those you know old nostalgic sort of uh titles and I've fallen hard. I've I've been buying them ever since. Um I think I got probably the first six or seven trades, and then after that I started buying the single issues, um, and I've been a hardcore fan ever since. Yeah, um it's not just the the newer Turtles comics that sell, the Saturday morning adventures collections sell sell really well. Yeah. Um and there's a whole bunch of those, so those those are big sellers as well. And we also sell um the collections of the original black and white Eastman and Lead stuff from back in the day. That's so good. Because um, you know, turtles are available from IDW in a whole lot of different formats. Um and The Last Ronan's really popular too. Yeah. Um, we still sell plenty of copies of that first volume in particular. Yeah. Um, and it's definitely one that I recommend to people. So absolutely recommend that one.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:16

Turtles are doing really well. Yeah, that's great. Yep. Just in a different, just just just in a different era of life for them now in the comic. Yeah, which is so good.

SPEAKER_13 1:10:25

Yeah, no, but they're I mean that's that's where they started. Yeah, they're they're well well at home there.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:30

Nice. Yeah. Maybe let's get into the review.

SPEAKER_10 1:10:35

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SPEAKER_11 1:10:42

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SPEAKER_10 1:10:46

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SPEAKER_11 1:10:49

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SPEAKER_10 1:10:54

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SPEAKER_12 1:11:41

More powerful than ever. America's favorite. Don't miss a moment. Don't miss a thrill! Exciting you, E-Man adventure! Today at four here on WSPK TV 38.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:59

Let's uh do the review. Well, we had some uh great, great TV viewing this past week for us. Yes. Um do you want to talk about Daredevil finale? Yes. Great finale. You enjoyed? Yeah, and it's exactly what I predicted for I reckon Spider-Man. Um in the new Spider-Man film.

SPEAKER_13 1:12:22

You reckon it's gonna link to the film?

SPEAKER_01 1:12:23

I reckon it's gonna link to the film. In what way? Based in the based on the watch theory. Well, I I think I said that that we saw um uh there's there's a photo of Matt uh with a beard um and he's in an orange jumpsuit. Is that from Spider-Man though? That's well, that's just uh that's just uh a photo that's been taken of him maybe on the set of season three.

SPEAKER_13 1:12:48

Yeah, because they are currently filming season three.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:51

And Spider-Man is in a jail um fighting the hand in in the trailer. Uh and so yes he is. If you if if they had shown that image that we saw of Spider-Man sort of jumping into the air against the hand, yeah, um, that really dynamic pose and this sort of this guesswork that they've taken out two characters, yeah, that could very well be Matt Murdoch as one of those characters. Interesting. As a as an introductory to the to the film.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:25

Um so maybe he's going to the jail, he's gonna save Matt Murdoch from being, you know, whatever, from the hand.

SPEAKER_13 1:13:33

And but yeah, I just wonder how that would play back into Peter's storyline.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:38

I don't know. Uh well, that's what we've got to wait and see. But um, I just find that really interesting that um, you know, spoiler alert spoiler alert. We should probably put that spoiler alert in there because we will try our best not to spoil it. Um, but I think we already have. Yeah, but but yeah, you know, Matt it's like the comics. Matt has literally come out and said that he is daredevil to the public. Um, a bit like when, you know, Iron and when um uh Robert Downey Jr. said he's Iron Man at the end of the film. Um and uh and and and it's the same here, he said he's daredevil in a in a court of war. Well that's very different for Matt Murdoch than it is for than it is for Tony Stark.

SPEAKER_13 1:14:26

Yeah, like Tony Stark would does it and then can go hide in his ivory tower, whereas Matt Murdoch, uh the legal implications alone of him being a lawyer and sort of playing both sides of the fence, yeah, um, is huge. So uh yeah, I think I mean now that we've talked about that, uh hopefully you've played a spoiler wall. I did. Oh, that's right, we heard yes, yeah. We did. Um I guess um it is interesting that I guess from a certain point of view, Matt and Peter are in similar sort of situations.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:59

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:15:00

Like Peter was in an in the same situation, everybody knew what his public identity was, and then to you know, dramatic effect, he got Doctor Strange to help him erase that erase erase that action. And now I guess Matt's maybe in need of the same sort of thing. Yeah, I don't know. Anyway, uh it's a stream of consciousness type stuff. I'm thinking out loud, but um yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see if um uh Matt shows up in in Spider-Man. I kind of hope he does, but I just wonder how that would play into Spider-Man's story. Yeah. And I mean we can't forget that it it like it is Spider-Man's movie, it's not yeah, not Daredevil.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:40

It's not Daredevil. So look, watch this space. Um that's kind of just just my theory, um, based on trying to connect the dots. Yeah. Um but overall this this was a great ending um for the beginning of season three. Yes. Um we we we we sort of had a little bit of closure, um, and then um we had a lot of sort of unanswered questions. Yeah. Um some of the some of our characters are uh gonna be pretty messed up in the next in the next season. Yeah. Not like this season either. I mean they were pretty messed up in this season. I think they're just in a different way um this time around. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:16:21

It's a different different mess.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:23

Yeah, uh definitely a different mess. But um, you know, well done to the cast, great acting, great writing, um, you know, uh great direction of of of especially the courtroom, you know, like the that that and it was great that they left that cut courtroom drama right to the end. Yeah, we didn't sort of get that staggered out like we did in um you know previous um seasons uh before we sort of got reborn.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:50

Um shout out to the uh Goldborn Again, sorry.

SPEAKER_13 1:16:53

Shout out to the stunt performers too, um and also the VFX teams because uh some of the stuff that we saw in those last couple of episodes and the way that it was shot too, like um uh you know, from multiple sort of really creative angles, it wasn't all just sort of from ground level. Um there was some really beautiful stuff in particular the last episode, but um, but the last couple really.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:17

Yeah, it you know, it it it was really interesting that they they sort of really drew out the relationship between um Fisk and Murdoch and what that what that means.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:29

And it reminded me of stories of um uh sort of back in the day when Snyder and Capullo were doing um the Batman series. Yeah. When you had, you know, when the when Batman realized that he's nothing without the Joker, and the Joker's nothing without Batman. Yeah. And this is what that story that they really brought out was is that they both realize that without each other they're they're they're they're nothing, you know, they're their their existence really doesn't mean anything without without it.

SPEAKER_13 1:18:04

It's a toxic dependent relationship.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:06

Yeah, it really is, right? Yeah, and um, so I really liked that that sort of came to a head and they came to that realization while they were fighting each other. It's not over though. Oh, it's definitely not over. I'm not saying that it's it's it that you know they're gonna be skipping down the street holding hands now and you know picking daisies.

SPEAKER_13 1:18:24

I mean it's it's uh but at least but at least one of those people is not gonna be able to let it go.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:29

No, no, definitely not. And um, but I I I just I really enjoyed that that element of of the writing and I thought it was great.

SPEAKER_13 1:18:38

Yeah, it was it was really good. Um I'm looking forward to uh watching the Punisher, yeah, um, one last kill tomorrow. Yep. Um and then I'll be locked in and and really starting to speculate what we're gonna see in Spider-Man.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:18:53

Um I I think I haven't started speculating too much about Spider-Man because I want to s wanted to see how Daredevil finished up. Yep. And I want to see how Punisher finishes up. We know we're seeing Frank Castle in in Spider-Man, so I'm interested to see uh where he's left at the end of this film, whether it has anything to do with what we've just seen in Daredevil and whether it has anything to do with the Frank Castle that we see in Spider-Man, I don't know. Um but I'm just I'm really eager to to see that and um yeah, keep keep enjoying this season of Marvel.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:24

Did you see the interview with John Bernenthal when he was talking about um uh back in the day when him and um Tom Holland were in another movie and they shot each other's um uh uh tapes for uh Punisher and Spider-Man?

SPEAKER_04 1:19:43

Did you that was really interesting?

SPEAKER_01 1:19:45

I I I really kind of dug that you know that they had helped each other out.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:50

And John Bernthall said, Oh, maybe if you do this for uh, you know, if you come in doing this, and um Tom Holland made some suggestions on Punisher, so they kind of helped each other get get get the roles that they auditioned for.

SPEAKER_13 1:20:03

So it's a really interesting relationship between the two of them. Yes, you know, coming from I can't remember what the name of that film was, but uh coming from that experience, and then now into the MCU, and also they're both in the Odyssey too. Yes, um, yeah, I think it's uh it's a really interesting relationship. Yeah, they don't seem to have a whole lot in common other than the fact that they're both very committed artists and actors, uh and nice guys too. And nice guys, yeah. No, I I I I find that relationship really um fascinating, and and anytime I get to hear about either of them talk about it, I think is really great.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:40

Yeah, well it's a bit like um RDJ and and Tom Holland. They sort of had this mentor-mentee sort of relationship, don't they? They spend a lot of time with each other and but RDJ and um Chris Evans too. Chris Evans, yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:20:53

You know, it's uh I mean they they always have a playful sort of public persona, and um I think that's a really fun relationship too.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:00

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_13 1:21:02

Um yeah, no, but looking forward to to Punisher.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:05

Yeah, what else have you been watching?

SPEAKER_13 1:21:07

Um I went to the movies. Um I think I mentioned last week that I was gonna see uh the the documentary biopic Um uh It's Never Over Jeff Buckley. Um and we did go and see that and it was great. Yeah um yeah, I'm a big Jeff Buckley fan. Um and it was really um uh interesting to to see um how they uh portrayed his short life in this film. Um I thought they uh you know did a great job with um not heaps heaps of uh f footage, I think. Um uh the the the movie was sort of um there was quite a lot of uh uh I guess animated sort of sequences, um like a lot of creative um you know music video he type right sort of um stuff. So but but it was very um you know visually pleasing. Right. Um and yeah, it was just a really great um analysis of of of Jeff Buckley's life um as an artist, but also a young man um achieving great success in a very short space of time, but also being a creative um who uh was perhaps going through some mental health stuff that back in those days, you know, we we we didn't really have names for all of those things. Um and I found that uh really interesting as well, um really sad, obviously, um especially considering how uh he uh ended up uh losing his life. Um but um it was a really great uh movie and a really great celebration of his uh music and his talent. Um and I was uh really pleased to see it. I'm I'm I'm sure it will be one that I watch again. Yeah, nice. Um aside from that, um the only other thing that I of note that I've watched this week um is a follow-up to what we were talking about last week. Um uh I watched I didn't watch all of it, but I watched some WWE backlash. Oh, backlash. Yeah, so um I had a bit of a uh chat with my uh wrestling guru Jay from the shop. Yes um and and and got some guidance about uh where to to watch uh Danhausen's bout on the weekend. Um did you see it?

SPEAKER_01 1:23:19

Yes, I did. Yes, um and he had uh Minihausen. It was spectacular. Had Minihausen, so there was this lead up. So Danhausen wanted to uh go up against uh two opponents.

SPEAKER_13 1:23:31

Well he was in a tag team, he was in a tag team about but by himself, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:35

And uh and and they said that he could he could go up against the other two if um he had a partner, yeah. And uh so there was this big sort of campaign and lead up, the expectation that was going to be John Cena or The Rock, or they really played on it for for a good week or two.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:54

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:54

Um and uh sure enough, the the crate uh that Downhausen appeared in is a crate? It was a cloning machine. Well, it originally the cr that crate, it's the same crate, so that that's how he uh entered the WWE is coming out of that crate. Oh, I see. And so that crate then became the cloning machine, yeah, and something went wrong, and we got a minihausen, so um, which is actually a really um he I can't remember his name now, um, but he's um uh a very um prominent uh luchador wrestler. Um he was pretty talented, and he played one of the and I'll I'll tell you what I was uh this is lead into what I was watching um uh just recently, uh, is uh he was one of the um beast uh luchadors in Nacho Libre. Oh, they were terrified. The two miniature ones, uh guys, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:24:48

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:49

He was one of them in in in in Nacho Libre.

SPEAKER_13 1:24:52

That doesn't surprise me.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:53

Um and um what a great what a great match. Did you enjoy it?

SPEAKER_13 1:24:56

I did enjoy it, yes. Yeah, it it's it's a big adjustment for me. Yeah, but um I I really did. Um we watched I I sort of uh watched the intros to the show because I knew that all the hype behind that would have been good fun. Yep, and then we sort of fast forwarded to the bout itself because I only had limits of time to watch it. Sure. Um, but we did. We watched uh the whole the whole bout. Yeah, um, and by the end of it, I have to say, both me and producer Kim, we kind of got sucked into the narrative.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:26

The the Dan Housen thing is is is so enjoyable. Oh, it's great. Such a showman.

SPEAKER_13 1:25:31

Oh, he's he he's wonderful. Oh, like I'm a fan for life.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:34

Yeah, and you and you saw the interview too this week, uh just gone of the uh the original interview that he did with Conan O'Brien.

SPEAKER_13 1:25:41

I did, you sent it to me. Yeah, um, and when I watched that, I realised that I had actually heard that because I'm a big fan of the Conan O'Brien needs a friend podcast. Yeah, and um I don't always listen to the Conan O'Brien needs a fan episodes.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:55

Right.

SPEAKER_13 1:25:56

But because that was the first ever episode of Conan O'Brien Needs a Fan, the sort of spin-off of of that show, um, I do remember hearing about it, but I had just forgotten about it, and then I hadn't made the link, and then I hadn't heard of Danhausen. Yeah, um, so I do I do remember that happening. It was a very positive interaction between him and Conan.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:16

Oh, yeah, like best friends catching up for from a long time, right?

SPEAKER_13 1:26:19

No, it was um, yeah, the the the uh creativity of Danhausen was was something that clearly appealed to Conan, and I love that the whole deal has got his blessing.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:26:30

Um so yeah, but I have to admit, my my um algorithm on Instagram has gone nuts. It's nearly every second post that comes through at the moment is Danhausen of of some form, and and I don't mind it to be honest.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:45

Look, I I think um Donovan Andrew, who is the uh who created the character Danhausen, yeah, or his um his alter ego. Yes, um, I I just think he's a great showman. I think that he's brought something really exciting to the WWE, which we and like I was saying to you last week, that we haven't seen since the you know sort of the late 90s, early 2000s. Um and uh I think that this is really gonna give a a real sort of shot in the arm that they need. Yeah. Um, you know, all the characters seem very interchangeable with each other, yeah. Um and and I do know that, you know, since the changing of the guard um uh who's running the WWE, um, that you know, ratings aren't as high as they should be. Yeah. Um, but I think that what um even though his original entrance to uh to WWE wasn't received very well, yeah. Um the the follow on from that has just been strength to strength to strength. I mean, when he first came out um at the WWE, he was he had like 5,000 followers or something or other on Instagram. Yeah, he's now got um half a half a million followers. In the space of like eight weeks. Including me. And including including me and including the show. So if if you if you don't know what he is, if you don't know who he is, do yourself a favour, go and check out Dan Housen. We don't think you'll be disappointed, and I'm sure we'll be talking about it in future episodes.

SPEAKER_13 1:28:18

Yeah, it was really really impressive. I was really impressed with the um the silliness of it. Yeah. Um the athleticism of it obviously is um you know astounding. Um and yeah, no, I'm looking forward to following what what ensues. It was it was really, really, really fun.

SPEAKER_10 1:28:34

It is fun.

SPEAKER_13 1:28:35

I need to get myself um some sort of action figure or figurine as well.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:39

Uh well he's uh he he was at uh I think he was at the Hasbro booth or something or other at one of the one of the toy events. Yeah. And he said that they've got until July, um uh which will be uh Comic-Con. Yeah. Uh San Diego Comic Con. And if they don't have it by July, then they'll be cursed. Oh, I see. So uh and we don't want that. Because that's kind of his thing, right? He he curses people, and that's how he sort of gets the upper hand on people. So um, and that's that that that's what makes it fun. So um the funnily enough, you know, he's he's cursed the uh um all the other teams except for the Mets, and so the Mets are uh are are winning at the moment, isn't it?

SPEAKER_13 1:29:21

The uh the Knicks.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:22

Oh the Knicks, sorry, yeah, he's cursed all the other teams, uh, and the and the Knicks are winning, and so uh and so like you know, people are taking it very seriously now that maybe his curses are real.

SPEAKER_13 1:29:33

Yeah, but Knicks fans would love that. Yeah, they they are they they'd grab a hold of anything, but yeah, they'd just swept Philadelphia in the the playoffs, yeah. Um, but yeah, we'll see how far they get.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:43

Yeah, super fun anyway, regardless. Um, do yourself a favor, check out Danhausen. Yeah, uh and and because of that, I watched uh I did a rewatch of Natro Libre with uh Jack Black.

SPEAKER_13 1:29:55

Very nice.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:56

Holy cow, what a great film that is.

SPEAKER_13 1:29:59

It is a great movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:00

I forgot how enjoyable it was. Yeah. I forgot how how many laugh out loud moments there was. I was watching this with uh producer Mandy, who was sort of really not watching it, and by the end of it, she was watching it. It's a good film. Um it sort of drew her in just as much as it did me. But I honestly I think it's one of his other than I think High Fidelity is probably Jack Black's best film that he's ever done. Yeah. Um it was probably his breakout film that he did. Yeah, that you know, people started to really take notice of him as an actor and as a singer. Um but I I th I still think that Nacho Libre is probably one of his best comedic films of all time. I think his uh best film is. Which one's that? School of Rock. School of Rock is great, don't get me wrong. I I I do enjoy it, but I didn't enjoy it as much as I enjoyed Nacho Libre.

SPEAKER_13 1:30:55

It's a school of rock for me.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:56

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_13 1:30:57

And and you know that's he's got so many great films though. Like I I I love watching him in anything. I I think Kung Fu Panda's one of his great films.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:03

Yeah, I I agree. You know, it's it's really interesting that you know his choice of films.

SPEAKER_13 1:31:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:09

Um, you know, if you were pitching this film to anybody else, you'd say that's gonna be a flop.

SPEAKER_13 1:31:16

Did you remember that he was in Mars Attacks?

SPEAKER_01 1:31:18

I remember he was in Mars Attacks. It was the uh the shaved head uh G.I. Joe.

SPEAKER_13 1:31:23

Uh Lucas Haas's brother.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:25

Yeah, and and he was fantastic in that.

SPEAKER_13 1:31:28

So funny. I'd but I'd forgotten he was in it.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:30

Yeah, I I remember seeing it not long ago, Mars Attacks.

SPEAKER_13 1:31:33

Yeah, I went and saw it at the Lido with um 17-year-old, and and I I I sort of half remembered that he was in it, but um yeah, I'd forgotten to tell it tell my son that he was in it. Yeah, and um, yeah, that was a real highlight for us.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:48

Yeah, that's nice. That's nice. But yeah, look, Nacho Libre is uh uh about a uh uh It was from the makers of Napoleon Dynamite. Yeah, and it's and and you know if you enjoyed Napoleon Dynamite, then you'll definitely enjoy Nacho Libre. Right, totally. Uh essentially it's about uh it's about a uh I think he's a priest, isn't he?

SPEAKER_13 1:32:08

Um that uh he is also likes to wrestle.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:11

And who secretly wrestles a trainee priest. I'm sure there's a word for that, but I'd I don't know what it is, but you know, we'll we'll we'll just go with that trainee priest.

SPEAKER_13 1:32:20

Fandom doesn't extend to religion.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:21

And uh he uh and and and at night he is a secret luchador named Nacho Libro. Yeah, and uh so he can win money uh to uh to to help the orphans.

SPEAKER_13 1:32:38

I think it's to save the conviction.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:39

Well it's to give give food to the to the orphans because they keep just eating slop. And so he wants to give them fresh fresh fruits and vegetables. So um very noble, he's absolutely noble, doing God's work. But uh along the way, he uh he falls in love with with one of the sisters there and uh and her her her view on uh on wrestling is not favorable. No. Um so he has to try and keep this secret. And um, but it's just a great show. It it worked uh film, it works really, really well. The timing is fantastic, his comedic timing is is gold. Yeah, um you know it's a low budget film, but it just like I said, if you enjoy Napoleon Dynamite, you'll definitely um definitely give this this this one a uh a spin for the first time.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:24

If you haven't watched it in a while and you want a laugh out loud film, um and and and enjoy the ride, then I'd highly recommend.

SPEAKER_13 1:33:32

Yeah, it's a very, very, uh, very funny, but also very charming film.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:36

Have you watched the end of uh monarch Legacy of Monsters yet?

SPEAKER_13 1:33:40

No, I have not.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:41

Okay, they all die. Um I I've I've watched the finale, I won't give anything away. What I will say is that we are tying up a lot of loose ends um that's been carrying over from the last two seasons.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:55

Um there's a couple of new threads that they're starting to pull.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:59

Um and I like the direction on where they're going. I think I have an understanding of what it's going to look like for some of the characters in the spin-off series, maybe.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:10

Um, but yeah, I really, I really sort of dug the ending. I felt maybe that episode, you know, the two episodes prior was kind of a little bit dragged.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:21

Um, and but I now understand why and where they were sort of leading.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:26

Um I I it was definitely season two, I feel, is more of an ensemble cast. Yeah. Um, and maybe some were getting a little bit too much um presence. Uh some of those characters are getting too much presence, and I'd probably like to see them peel back a little bit to know your place. Yeah, yeah. Um, but I um but I do I do like where they're moving into season three. Okay. Um and I do I do like where um uh the uh Russell father and son dynamic is going and what that looks like. So Kurt Kurt and Wyatt Russell Yes.

SPEAKER_13 1:35:11

Um no, I've uh got to catch up on that one, but I will.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:15

Have you also have you watched any of uh because this week uh in our time, uh regular show, The Lost Tapes, is has been released.

SPEAKER_13 1:35:24

Uh no. Um I've been busy this week and I I hadn't realized that that had dropped. I knew it was coming.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:29

So I watched two episodes.

SPEAKER_13 1:35:32

Um how many have they released?

SPEAKER_01 1:35:33

Uh they've dropped four. Okay. Four episodes.

SPEAKER_13 1:35:37

Well I know what I'm doing after this.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:38

Or even maybe more. Um I I've only watched two. That's so the first episode is a double. Okay. Uh, and then the second one is back to 11 minutes like the others were. Yeah. Uh this is this is actually a really good way of um bringing back a series that pretty much uh you know closed off. Yeah, yeah. Um this leans right into the fact that they had closed off the series, yeah. And a really clever way of reintroducing new episodes um that doesn't uh that doesn't forget about what happened at the end of um the original series. Okay. Um so I don't want to give anything away. No, no. Um but I but we'll probably talk about it more on on the next episode.

SPEAKER_13 1:36:28

Yeah, well I'm definitely gonna go and watch some because I love regular show. I've been watching I've been re-watching the um Survive the old ones for some time. So um yeah, no, I I'd missed it that it came out, but um I'm definitely gonna go watch some tonight.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:42

Yeah, people must be wondering what my algorithm looks like at the moment. I'm getting uh comic books, Dan Housen and the regular show, and Bob Fergus.

SPEAKER_13 1:36:49

Yeah, we wouldn't be wondering, they'd just go, oh that guy's a nerd.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:55

But uh yeah, regular show is back, it is fantastic, well written. Can't wait. Uh voice actors are fantastic. Can't wait. Um Mordecai and Ruby are back to their normal crazy selves, and um I'm loving, absolutely loving it. The kings of comedy. Yeah, they are the kings of comedy. Um just uh another note, uh Bob's Burgers. So uh so I I mentioned a couple of episodes ago uh that that Bob's Burgers was back. Um we're now at episode four. Um this this this new episode is fantastic. This is dealing with uh Linda Belcher and her uh and and what we didn't know is that because we don't we don't actually see her drive ever. Um it's usually Bob that's driving the car.

SPEAKER_13 1:37:40

That's true.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:41

Um and uh what we discover is that Linda Belcher is is a um notorious uh road rager when it comes to uh driving a car. Why am I not surprised? And it's fantastic, it's absolutely fantastic. And then she has to and she goes to uh road rage therapy to um, you know, uh on the back of her family convincing her. I'm sure she takes to that well. Um and it's it's a great episode. Um what I did discover though is that from the from last season and this season, so we're talking 15 and 16, yeah, um, that they have withdrawn the uh Thanksgiving and Halloween episodes. Okay. Um, you know, so like The Simpsons, uh The Simpsons is known for its Christmas and its Halloween episodes, yeah. Um and everybody tunes in for the Tree House of Horror. Even if you're not watching Simpsons regularly, you'll most likely want to watch, you know, the Tree House of Horror or a Christmas episode. Yeah. Um and it's the same with Bob's Burgers, you know, they're very known for their fantastic um uh uh you know Halloween episodes. Yeah. Um and you know, that they're it it's rooted in their normal lives, it doesn't sort of go supernaturally or cosmically like The Simpsons does. No. Um, but they're very good episodes um uh uh about you know normal day Halloween adventures. Yeah. Um and same with Thanksgiving and Bob's sort of obsession with turkeys and finding the the ultimate turkey to to to cook.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:17

Um so yeah, they've stopped doing these these episodes at the mo these episodes at the moment because they want to give um a little bit of breath to to the other episodes.

SPEAKER_13 1:39:28

They don't want them to overshadow so when you say they've pulled them, that they haven't pulled the the the old ones.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:33

Just the concept, right? Right of how of having a Thanksgiving episode and a um gotcha gotcha. And and you know, later on in the seasons, uh those Thanksgiving episodes became more um more about the involvement of other characters like um Mr. Fish Odo and you know um you know having a uh you know where they were hunting each other on his property and all the rest of it on a Thanksgiving day and all the rest of it. So these are I I think these are really important uh episodes to have. I can understand why they're doing it.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:08

Um because they they they sort of want all episodes to be equal. Um but I think that's part of the charm of any series where you kind of have these breakout episodes that you're looking forward to with a theme.

SPEAKER_13 1:40:22

It sounds a bit like um uh w what happens as a result of a show going from being a broadcast show to being a streaming one.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:30

Hmm.

SPEAKER_13 1:40:31

Um and also perhaps they're they're doing it because of um global appeal.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:37

Yeah, yeah, it's possible because uh because Thanksgiving doesn't necessarily and Halloween to a certain extent doesn't always resonate with other countries. No. Um so you know, for Australia we don't celebrate Thanksgiving. No, um we do celebrate Halloween in a sort of a roundabout way. Um some people do, yeah. Um and but but Thanksgiving's kind of a little bit different. Yeah. I mean in our house it's called Nathsgiving um because it's around the same week as my birthday. So fair enough. So uh so yeah, we we we we do the extended of uh of my birthday and it becomes Nathsgiving.

SPEAKER_13 1:41:12

So um Well if it's your birthday, shouldn't it be called Nathan's getting?

SPEAKER_01 1:41:16

No well, I I'm I'm I'm giving my presents for my birthday.

SPEAKER_13 1:41:19

So I won't overthink it. Um yeah, no, it's it's interesting, but it it I mean maybe they've just get decided maybe they run out of ideas or well, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:30

I mean uh like I said, I mean look, the episodes so far for 16 are being new and fresh and different. Yeah, um they continue storylines with characters which we we want to see um and enjoy to see. Yeah, um there's some great moments um in in every single episode that I've I've watched so far or all four episodes. Yeah. Um and I'm just really looking forward to seeing what they come out with. Um but yeah, I would like to see some, you know, um, you know, callbacks to either Halloween or Christmas or Thanksgiving, because I I really do dig those ones.

SPEAKER_13 1:42:05

Yeah, yeah. Well maybe it's um uh it they've just got a wealth of ideas for other episodes and they they don't want to spend the the time sort of covering ground that they've they've done before. Yeah. Or maybe they're just gonna take it away so that um when it comes back it'll it'll have even more impact.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:20

Uh shall we get into the shout? No. Okay, that's all right then. How about you? Uh all I was gonna say was um uh just again uh our pop culture plus uh which is our bonus segment that we're releasing on a regular weekly basis. I really enjoyed the free comic book day special. Yeah, um uh where uh I uh hit the pavement and did a bit of a vox pop with those lining up and uh also those on the uh on the shop floor.

SPEAKER_13 1:42:58

Yeah, that that that guy who worked at All Star that you talked to sounded Oh at the end.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:02

Oh, he sounded really handsome. Bit sh bit shady. Uh you know, if you'd seen it, what he looked like. Yeah, shady, but in a rugged sort of you know, attractive kind of way. Harrison Ford kind of way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which was signed by his secretary.

SPEAKER_13 1:43:16

Yeah. What?

SPEAKER_01 1:43:19

But uh but yeah, it was a I mean it was a it was a fun episode to do. Yeah. Um uh by the time this uh episode comes out, we will uh have released our our new episode. Yes, um, which will be with uh with Trev Wood. Uh Trev Wood is a uh Australian comic book uh artist and writer, uh working with Gestalt Comics uh now on uh on his own book. Um and we'll talk a little bit more in length uh about that.

SPEAKER_13 1:43:49

Great bloke.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:50

Um and yeah, um I've I've known Trev for a long time and um we've we've we've done work together um during COVID uh to try and sort of rally uh the comic book community together and uh enjoy that.

SPEAKER_13 1:44:03

I thought you were gonna say you were working on a vaccine.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:05

No, when we did the art room all-stars together um uh for for a little while, and that was um that was great fun to work together while we were doing that. So I'm not a vaccine, but so definitely not a vaccine, but um it definitely gave everybody a shot in the arm creatively. On the fly and all, hey um I better get out my my uh my cardboard and do a bit of a breakdance now.

SPEAKER_13 1:44:30

I'll give you a breakdown.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:34

I look forward to it. Um but yeah, please um please check that out if you want to want to hear about about Trev and his um and his and his uh journey of uh creativity. Um we'd love you to be part of that. And um, if there's anybody that you'd like to hear on uh Pulp Culture Plus, definitely hit us up on the socials under uh Pulp Culture Pod. Yes, please. Um uh but yeah, we do we do have a lineup of people um talking about uh talking about success. Uh congratulations to uh Levi Kleman. Uh I'm not too sure whether we mentioned that uh his uh Kickstarter is uh now in full swing. I think he's got about two weeks left until the end of the Kickstarter or about a week. But uh yeah, Levi Kleman, uh his uh Kickstarter has um definitely surpassed its uh its goal and it's now into the stretch goals and um we we couldn't be happier for him. It's uh it's a great book. It's gonna be really exciting to read. Um he's a he's a great guy to uh to to speak with and uh what he had to say was um well a lot of uh a lot of perlers in that in in that uh that interview and you can go back and check that out.

SPEAKER_13 1:45:47

Um they're really good episodes as they always are.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:50

Yeah, yeah, I think I think so far, I think um you know uh the the the the talent that we're that that we're speaking with is um they're they're just really really great people and they've got um some really good uh good advice and some good uh some good truths and wisdom and um and and some learnings along the way.

SPEAKER_13 1:46:10

Yeah, I think they've all been really um inspiring but grounded.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:46:14

Um some you know that they've all sort of given some really um uh uh down to earth uh tips about um how to to sort of get your um uh creative processes going um but but also to um keep calm while you're doing it. Yeah. Um yeah, that that sort of doesn't it makes it seem a little less grandiose than it some sometimes can be.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:40

Yeah, absolutely. Um and and you know, I mean we we sort of put those um you know uh artists and writers a bit on a pedestal when it comes to you know creativity and we think that that's quite rightly and and quite rightly, but we we expect that that's what's gonna happen when we go into the business, yeah. Um which is very far from the truth.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:02

Um and you know, it takes a lot of hard work and sweat and blood and tears, yeah, um, and everything in between.

SPEAKER_13 1:47:08

But at the same time, I think what I'm trying to say with this is that uh it it it also uh you know there's a there's an aspect of just do it about it as well. Yes, you know, and and that's what comes through from all of the interviews that you've done, is that um, you know, with all of them, uh a large part of it is just do it, just do your thing and and see what comes of it. Um and it's one of the things that you know I was uh taught in in creative writing classes back in uni and stuff, is that um the the best first step to uh making anything is to just start making it. Yeah, um it doesn't have to be perfect from uh you know point A. Um you've just got to start walking um and eventually you'll you'll run.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:52

So I think Stan Lee said you do you boo.

SPEAKER_13 1:47:55

Yeah. Did he? No. Right. Look, I I'll I'll go back to a quote that I know is real. Um Carrie Fisher used to say, and it was partly in regards to um lack of confidence and uh anxiety about things and stuff, but she used to say um that uh just do the thing and the confidence will come. Not and I think that that really uh relates to creative processes, especially when it's something that um you don't really have any guidance or guide rails to how to do it. Um you you just need to get started, you know, in whatever way that you think is uh is best. Um and and and yeah, the confidence will come.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:41

Yeah, no, that's good. I mean that's a that's a great way to leave uh leave the show. Um thanks for your company. Um we've definitely enjoyed uh talking to you um or speaking with you um about some of these uh speaking at you? No, never.

SPEAKER_10 1:48:58

What?

SPEAKER_01 1:48:59

No, I'd never do that. I only do I only speak at you, not not anybody else. Oh, right, okay. Yeah, all right. Forget I said that. Um but uh yeah, thanks for your company. We uh we we we've really enjoyed it, and uh we uh we um it's been good to talk about some of these things again. Um uh we've got uh two episodes until uh till our 30th.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:25

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:26

Um and I think our 30th actually will be uh when we go see Mando and Grogu. Yes. So that'll be a bit of a celebration. Yeah, looking forward to that. Post post-Star Wars celebration it'll be. So um pack up our ATAT pocket pop popcorn buckets. Pack up. Yeah. I thought you were gonna ride it home.

SPEAKER_13 1:49:47

If I buy one, I might have to ride it home.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:50

Well, hopefully it's electric and you can just it'll just make its way home on its own, right? Yeah. We'll see. Uh we'll work something out. Anyway, uh thanks for your company. Uh we look forward to

SPEAKER_06 1:50:16

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SPEAKER_03 1:50:30

And up in the nursery, an absurd little bird is popping out to say cuckoo. Regretfully they tell us, but firmly they compel us to say good night So long, farewell, I'll be the sake of die.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:05

I hate to go and leave the spin inside. So long, farewell, I'll be the same, I do, I do, I do, did you, and you're well, I'll be the same, I'd love to stay, so both, they're well, I'll be to say goodbye, I'd be fine to say goodbye. I cannot tell a lie. I think I love, I think it'd be a lie. The sun has gone to bed, and so most eye.

SPEAKER_03 1:52:32

So long farewell I'll feel saying goodbye, goodbye, goodbye.