KingWilliam Juelz Indie Spotlight

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SPEAKER_00 0:00

Just maintain it, brother.

SPEAKER_02 0:02

Are you hi? I see you doing you nice over there, man. Look. Man, look. I I look. It looks like a whole whole nice little setup over there, man. I get on my A game, bro.

SPEAKER_00 0:16

That was a little something, man. I got other things going on, bro. You know, I'm you know me, man. I just had to I had to step back for a minute, bro. You know?

SPEAKER_02 0:24

Alright, I feel you. I feel you on that. So I'm about to get we're about to get started with this drink right here. So I'm gonna I'm gonna kick it off real quick. So check this out, yo. This is your boy AD from Pusha Independent Radio Show and Indy Hart. I got my man here tonight, uh Will Zuez. You know what I'm saying? From Harrisburg, all the way from DV. Uh he's doing some big things out there, you know what I'm saying? So we're gonna talk about uh some things he got going on. Uh talk about some career things, some music things, you know, talk about his, you know, his career, uh his um high school in Berkeley. So we're gonna welcome y'all to my man, King William, Jews. So I want y'all to give a round of applause to my man right here. So we're gonna start off, man, like from the beginning. Like uh tell us about, you know, up there, you know, up there in Harrisburg, and you know, what's your influence of with your creativity and stuff?

SPEAKER_00 1:29

I got started a little bit before Harrisburg, man, because you know I'm reading in Baltimore, man. You know, that's my heart, man. That's where my musical journey began, man. When I was um 12 years old, man, I was a musician, man, a drummer. You know, that's my originality, man. That's where I come from drums, man. But I'm always sat around jazz bands, man. And I was always in the atmosphere of musicians all the time. And honestly, man, I didn't think I had no musical talent. I see everybody doing their thing. And I'm like, if I'm not doing it like they're doing it, I can't do it at all, you know. So I sat around jazz musicians, you know. I've been like my man, um, my partner I used to do with my man Joe Wesson, man. He was a um a sign rapper, man. He was already going around doing tours back then. I was just starting because I was a drummer in the MC, man. Um, and I used to do like I started doing rap, like rapping over other rappers' tapes and stuff. This before D this before CDs came out. Right. I used to take the paper and put them in the top of the tape, and we used to record over the tapes. I come from that era, man, you know, a hip hop and rap music band. So, you know, I was doing my rap music. There wasn't a lot of people in Baltimore doing rap music when I was doing it. It was like a handful of people. But I remember my guy Joe, he was already signed, man, doing going around touring, going to Germany, different places. And um, he took me under his wing, man. And I think I developed as a rapper being under him, and I started performing with him and doing shows and gigs. But he he was a freestyle phonetic, bro. But he thought I was I was a writer. You know, I had to write my joint. I wasn't freestyling like that, bro. I had to do my I had to do my pen game.

SPEAKER_01 3:10

Right.

SPEAKER_00 3:11

So, you know, over years, man, you know, the hardest part that my biggest struggle, man, was production because I got a raspy voice, so a lot of people couldn't record my voice, or I couldn't ever find a good beat or whatever for my for a lot of my music. So it took like a lot of time and crafting to you know, figure what lane I was going in when they came out to the music. But I know as far as on the rap tip, man, I think like when Nas came out, man, like Nas, the Wu-Tang clan, when they all came out, I think that's when I really stepped my pin game up, man. I think they probably was my um biggest influence. And then when DMX came out, I was like, oh man.

SPEAKER_03 3:48

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:49

I really need to step my game up there, man. You know what I mean? I wanted to be up there with the elites, bro. So I did have an opportunity to sign with Def Jam back in 1995. Right around the same time DMX signed. But my mother, man, my mother ain't want me to sign no label, man. She wanted me to finish school and all that, man. So, you know, a lot of things I was getting caught up in, man, was kind of um hindering that success of my mother ain't trust that they instilled my music and this and that. So it kind of shot my career down a little bit. But, you know, I kept on pushing with the music, man. So I think I had I had worked with this local label, man, and I ain't gonna put their name out there like that, but they stole my music, man, when I was younger, man. They had this move, this blockbuster movie came up, man, called Sensitivity, right? Uh-huh. And they kept on telling me they was getting this blockbuster deal. And I'm like, Dad, man, that's cool, man. I'm still wanting to get me a deal. You know, I'm about to say this thing, can't nobody stop me, right? So they were sitting here tumble, you ever gonna use this song and boom, boom, boom, this and that. So next thing you know, man, I heard the song playing on the um on the movie. I ain't even get paid, bro. How you feel about that though? I was I would I felt like I was jit, brother. Like I would I had hatred of my heart, like I broke me and my boys kicked down the studio door down on Charles Street, man. They had the studio down on Charles Street, man. We yeah, we put feet in the door, man. Oh, okay. But you know, I still ain't get paid. You know, I mean, I I made some noise, but I ain't get paid. Uh I ain't know no better, man, because I was young, man. So one thing that I learned, man, when you're a young artist, having the talent is one thing, but you got to learn the business, man, because these cats are playing you. It don't matter what area you went, you're gonna get played if you don't learn the business. So I knew right then and there, man, I had to like start opening books, man. So I started reading books, man, about how the business goes, man, when it comes to music, because I didn't want to be in that position again, bro.

SPEAKER_01 5:53

Right.

SPEAKER_00 5:53

Um, so I had got I man, I was so mad, bro. I stopped doing music for a while. I put one video out called Can You Feel My Pain, and after that, I was done, bro. Why and I was airing all that out, airing up my pain and everything, man. Then I I quit. So set it down though, man. I stopped doing the music, yeah. I ain't want to go to jail, brother. I mean, type of attitude I got, man, it's like something bad gonna come out. It's I started to feel like the gift was becoming a curse.

SPEAKER_02 6:23

Right. So, like, what what kind of advice would you give these these artists that's coming out now that's trying to get into the game and and you know start from like the uh from the ground up?

SPEAKER_00 6:35

Two of the biggest things, man, learn the business and invest in yourself. Don't have nobody come around. Don't ever think that nobody's gonna do nothing for free. Because even though you go to that studio and you record for free, somebody they clock it, they clock in that time. And what's gonna happen is when you get, they're not gonna never, if you don't go nowhere as an artist, they'll never say nothing. Right. The minute opportunities start coming, then you're gonna start, that's when they're gonna start trying to play you, man. They're gonna start saying, Well, you know I pay for the studio time, so technically I own the rights and this and that. Always own your masters, and anybody can do that. You're gonna have to put that money up. So the way I look at it is if you believe in your craft, you'll pay for it. Anything if you you wanna look fresh, you buy clothes, you pay for it. You wanna you wanna drive around in nice cars because you believe you're gonna get some chicks or whatever the case is, you pay for it. You pay for everything else, why you don't pay for your craft, man? You know, a lot of artists, a lot of honor, but a lot of these artists they're gonna always get played because they want it for free, bro. Ain't no free game, man. You got to pay to play. It's the game. Yeah, any game that you're in, you're gonna have to pay for it, man. The game ain't free, bro. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 7:45

You gotta you're gonna have to make them moves. But uh, I guess, I guess so. Like, would you saying that um like with these artists out here that's that's trying to, you know, feel like like they don't want to um pay, what what do you feel like that they think they're gaining um like from people out here like the no reality? Let's say I'm not gonna pay, but like, you know, like how can I get ahead?

SPEAKER_00 8:09

You really can't get ahead. See, here's the thing. You got you got you got two tiers. You got the artist that really don't have the talent still in development, and he really wants to make it happen so he recording and recording, right? Not really making a lot of noise, not really got no big buzz like that. So he don't really want to pay no money.

SPEAKER_04 8:30

Right.

SPEAKER_00 8:31

So then you got the other artists that really got a lot of talent and making noise, got their hood behind them and everything, still don't want to pay. They have a chance, but they're gonna get played. The chance they have is this they're gonna run the they're gonna they're gonna be able to run the rock. They may get some deals and get some opportunities, but then they're gonna be looking more at it as a dollar sign.

SPEAKER_01 8:55

Right.

SPEAKER_00 8:55

So when they come down to the to the the fame, they'll get the fame, they'll get the acknowledgement, but then they're gonna get the money.

SPEAKER_02 9:04

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_00 9:04

I like that when it all boils down, man. Them labels, they're gonna pay for your promotion, they're gonna pay for your marketing, they're paying for your studio time, they paying for your office, they're paying for your wardrobe. Then you got the manager, they gotta get paid, the sound engineer gotta get paid, the producer got to get paid. It's so much behind the stuff that by the time you get paid, you ain't getting no money. They ain't got nothing. Yep. That's why you see a lot of now. You gotta think the the way my mind work is this. I take the artist that's really making noise like that and see how what kind of money they make it. So many getting no money like that, bro. So then you gotta mastermind and find you a way how you're gonna make money with the music. You don't really need to be on a label no more. The way the the way the game's going, you don't need a label no more.

SPEAKER_02 9:49

Yeah, you can pretty much do it on your own.

SPEAKER_00 9:51

But you gotta have the money, brother. You gotta invest in yourself. You have to pay, you're not gonna get around paying for the marketing, and you're not gonna get around paying for the promotion. You you're not gonna get around paying for good quality studio time. Yeah, you gotta pay for it.

SPEAKER_02 10:06

Yeah, because that's why I look at like J. Cole, like and Cardi B that went out here and they promoted their music night in, night out on trains, on them on the subways, driving a clear across country, letting people get in the car, like, hey, I want you to listen to these tracks. And I look at it like, yo, they they out here trying to get it on their own because like in the industry they're gonna take it. So I'm gonna be I'm gonna be an independent so I can keep my money, but like you're gonna have to go to them growing pains. And if they going through them, then like I don't know, you know, we're trying to figure out why like regular people that's trying to get out there, why they don't feel like that. They feel like it's just supposed to just happen like quick and instant. So that's it.

SPEAKER_00 10:45

Well, I mean it it really it can happen quick, it can happen quick, but this is what you got. I'm gonna give you, I'm only gonna give out one free tip. That's it. We can take the only reason why I'm gonna give it off for free, because I know a lot of people ain't gonna pay no mind, they're gonna overlook it, and it ain't gonna work. But those that listen to me, they work for this white tell people. If you know you're hot like that, let's just let's just take the rappers. If you know you got bars like that, and you know you're good like that, take that tax money that you get at the end of the year, put some bread up and pay for an industry feature. You can get you a B a BR, they only gonna charge you about eight, eight to ten thousand dollars for a verse. Do a video that right there gonna get you, that's gonna put you ahead of a whole lot of people right there by yourself. You're gonna cancel out all the market because guess what? The audience of your rapper that you choose to do a song with, their audience is gonna be watching. They know they're gonna be like, damn, man, he's hot. And they're gonna start looking at your whole catalog and your numbers are gonna go fluctuate real quick. That's the and that that you're gonna bypass paying for views, paying for comments, all the fake scam that the internet try to sell you for promotion. No, man, do it like that. It's easier now than it was back then. Man, to be honest with you, I wish I had all this that they got now back then when I was rapping, bro. I know I would have blue.

SPEAKER_02 12:16

Oh, yeah, true. True that.

SPEAKER_00 12:18

I knew I would have blue. I was getting industry, I was getting industry um deals without no internet. So I already know what it would have been with the internet.

SPEAKER_02 12:29

So uh, like you were talking about like social media, and we go on there and we we see everybody with the likes and stuff. Um, do you feel like that's a miss, some of it is a misrepresentation, or is it is it some of the people genuinely following these artists that's trying to get themselves out of there?

SPEAKER_00 12:48

I'm not gonna say it's a misrepresentation. I just I think I think the main thing is, man, once you find out who the audience is, it shouldn't be that hard after at that point.

SPEAKER_01 13:00

Right.

SPEAKER_00 13:00

I think a lot of artists struggle with their audience. Like here's the thing. You got your Facebook page, right? Right. All those people that that you say your Facebook friends, you get mad when they don't support. They ain't nobody, brother. They regular Facebook, half of them don't even listen to no music. Half of them don't even like the probably the journal music that you did. You gotta find the audience that's engaging with your journal and music.

SPEAKER_03 13:28

Yeah, I agree, I agree with you.

SPEAKER_00 13:29

I've been seeing artists complaining, man. Don't nobody support me, this and that. Yo, just because you grew up with these people in your hood, they're not obligated to support you.

SPEAKER_02 13:38

Right. You gotta do it on your own.

SPEAKER_00 13:40

You gotta go out and find it's it's yo, it's always a rule of thumb, it's even in the Bible. A prophet is without honor in his own country. You're not gonna get the same value in around what's familiar, then the unfamiliar. The unfamiliar gonna have more appreciation for you than those that are familiar with you.

SPEAKER_02 13:59

Yeah, you're right.

SPEAKER_00 14:00

You went over the unfamiliar, the familiar, they're gonna fall in line, bro. You ain't you ain't got to do all you ain't gotta worry about them. You gotta just keep on supporting you. Whether somebody likes this stuff or not.

SPEAKER_02 14:13

Yeah, because you you gotta you gotta like I tell people, you gotta first love it first. You don't love it, then don't don't put it out.

SPEAKER_00 14:19

But it gotta be, it can't be about the money because if you if you do music for the money, might as well stop because you're gonna be disappointed. Yep, true. And I tell people, if you get one like, you can get a trillion likes. You just gotta find everybody else that have that one like, like the one person that liked your stuff.

SPEAKER_02 14:38

Yeah, you you're right about that. Um, and I and I sit there and I look at it because the reason I asked that question, because I see a lot of people that have a zillion likes, but then you go on the page, it's like 10 likes for one picture, one like for the other one. I'm like, you got all these people that's following why they ain't supporting.

SPEAKER_03 14:57

They really not follow us.

SPEAKER_00 15:01

And then the other thing is too, you have to um you gotta know your times of engagement. You gotta know when your audience is up. Some people got late night audience, some people got early morning audience, some people got afternoon audience. You gotta look at your analytics to find out the best times to post your stuff.

SPEAKER_02 15:21

True. So I guess my my thing with you is because you you also do um, you do RB, you you like you did gospel rap, and you also did a little um gospel on the side. What what made you want to cross over to the other side?

SPEAKER_00 15:37

I ain't never want to cross over, brother. I'm gonna tell you this. I I'm gonna say this. Let me let me go here. All right. I stopped doing music for eight years. From 2014 all the way up to 2019, I do no music. 20 when I I moved to Harrisburg, Pennsylvania in 2018. I signed up to go to Ford Star University to do film, digital cinematography. I was I wasn't I wasn't really trying to fool with no music, man. I wanted to do film. So when I when I went to that school, I had to set up a studio format just like an audio studio, because you gotta, of course, you gotta mix audio when you're doing film. So the studio kind of formed itself, man. Um I got that's how I got to production. I went to I went to cinematography school. So I started learning how to um become a sound engineer, mixing the master in music. When I first started out, the first guy from Philly came up and he recorded at my career, and the mix was garbage, bro. I didn't know what the heck I was doing, bro. I was I was just in there pushing buttons, man. Right before I didn't know nothing about automation, I ain't know nothing about game stage, I ain't know nothing about none of that. I was taking plugins, doing it on there, and boom. So I flopped with that one. So I started, I had got this um this engineer book by this guy, um Bobby Owinsky. He's a bad engineer, bro. I read that book and I started really learning how to engineer music and start practicing with you know with the book. Uh hey man, I started getting better, man. So the next time my artist came, the mix sounded better. And I start I started growing from there, man. Different cats start coming up, recording. I ain't want to do music, man. It just started acting. People just was coming because I had equipment.

SPEAKER_01 17:36

Right.

SPEAKER_00 17:36

It was for I was supposed to mix an audio for film, man. Not doing no art, not doing no studio recording. But then the artist came, now couldn't say no. I got pulled back into the music. That's right with the production tip. So I said, you know what? I might as well just keep on doing it. So I came back to music on the production side. I didn't come back as an MC like I was when I left. I left the MC and came back in production. So I had a couple years of you know, engineering and learning my way with making beats and all that kind of making music. I had um decided I wanted to go to school. So everybody kept on talking about Berkeley. I did research, I said, damn, that's the number one school in the country, man. But then I found out that their acceptance rate was real low. They only took like 49% of the people that applied. So you know me, I I I I applied anyway. When I applied for it, I said, Audition. I know you lying. I know you lying. Audition. So I'm sitting here like so. I I had called him, I said, I'm not really a musician, musician, but how do I audition? They said, well, since you're doing production, we want to see you, your whole production process from start to finish from the beginning of a song to the end of a song. So I said, damn. So I did it, right? So I did I did the one joint, right, and put it together. Said, man, we'll see what happens. And I already knew that it was, I even knew catch that was like bona fide musicians, bro, that was trying to get into that school. Right. And some of them got their letters for they said, Dad, Dan King, I ain't making. I already knew me. Certain brothers told me they wasn't making it in. I already knew I wasn't making it in, bro. So them, I was I was laying in bed one day, man, one o'clock in the morning. I got this email from Berkeley. They said I was accepted. I was like, yo, if you serious, right. So I got into it. So I was alright, like learning chords and all that stuff. So I could, you know, be better with beats and making music. So when I first got in, man, I had to take this class and they wanted to know, um, they wanted to see how we where everybody was at with mixing music and everything, but they wanted us to do music in a journal that we wasn't familiar with. So I I cheated. I did hip hop. You know, it wasn't so I I sent the hip-hop song in that joint, right?

SPEAKER_01 20:23

Right.

SPEAKER_00 20:23

And um, he yo gave me a D minus.

SPEAKER_02 20:27

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 20:28

So I'm like, yo, what's wrong with the mix? So I asked the team, I said, why I get a D minus? He said, Mr. Kearney, I know you do hip hop. That's why I gave you a D minus. He said, the mixing, the mastering sounded good, but I wanted you to do something in a journey that you don't that you don't do music in. So I'm like, first of all, I'm not really a beat maker like that. I'm like, I'm just like I'm stressed now, bro. Like I make beats, I don't make songs like like a musician, like you know, like playing the piano, like, yeah, I ain't that guy, right? So my they said they assign everybody a mentor. So my mentor, Josh, man, I taught to him. He has he sang praise, he's a praise of worship leader for this church in Boston, big church. And he told me that he had helped me, you know, get through a song. But he said, he said, look, man, I can sing. I'll sing the song for you.

SPEAKER_04 21:28

Right.

SPEAKER_00 21:28

But you wanted to create the music and write the lyrics. So this is a different push because I've I never wrote a song before. I write rap music. I never wrote a song. So I'm sitting there Googling, look at that song structure, this and that. So it was fortunate that I was going through some personal days in my life. So he said, Well, we do I was like, we were sitting to do a gospel song. I said, Damn, man. So I'm thinking I said it can't sound like that. My reps. If he's gonna be singing it, I think he's used a praise and worship leader. You're gonna laugh when I tell you how I was making the music, bro. I would I would literally download songs into my dog and look at the chord arrangements.

SPEAKER_01 22:15

Right.

SPEAKER_00 22:15

I would write down the chord arrangements so I can do what chords was which, and I and I start playing and doing my own thing, bro. That's how I made all the music on the constellation album. So I made the music for this one song called Here I Am. So I sent him the song. He has a studio. He recorded the song, sent it back to be the mix and master, right?

SPEAKER_01 22:41

Right.

SPEAKER_00 22:41

But when I sent him the song, I had to sing it first, so he knew how I wanted the song to be sung, right? That's how I do everything. So three days later, he sent me a song back. I'm like, yo, this cat killed it. I see why he mentored.

SPEAKER_01 22:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:00

So I submitted the song. So when you go into the studio portal, they let you can hear everybody's music. When they heard my song, everybody was like, yo, that song is dope. And I seen cat send a message like, man, you need to make a whole album off that joint, this and that, right?

SPEAKER_01 23:20

Right.

SPEAKER_00 23:21

And I'm like, in my mind, I'm like, you know what I had to go through to make that one? Don't more. So another brother hit me up, Keith. Keith hit me up. He said, Look, man, if you're down for doing a project, he said, Man, you a hell of a writer.

SPEAKER_01 23:39

Right.

SPEAKER_00 23:40

He said, if you write me a song, man, I'll blow it. And I'm like, dang. So now I'm saying trying to like now these things reaching out to me now. And these guys, like, all them like fire.

SPEAKER_01 23:56

Right.

SPEAKER_00 23:57

I'm like, how I'm gonna control all this. So I came up with songs. I listened to other material that they had, writing songs, doing the same thing with the music with the chords and everything, just you know, fight feeling my way through the chords, trying to find some stuff. And I said, you know what? This guy to sound like a movie. So I wanted, I wanted the album to sound like a movie soundtrack. But I wanted to come from, I didn't want it to sound like regular gospel music.

SPEAKER_01 24:24

Right.

SPEAKER_00 24:25

I wanted to have this movie feel to it, right? And it did, bro. So I did like three, I did um, I did Here I Am, Work on Me. Then I want they wanted me to be in there. The only thing I know how to do is rap, so that's where I almost died. The streets came from. They want me to be on the album. So much, I was gonna do so much in my personal life, man, that it kind of it kind of propelled me to write the music that I wrote for the album. Cause it's like I was in the, I was in my, I was, I kind of had back slipping from God. I kind of strayed away from God. I was actually kind of bitter towards God at the moment at that time when I was writing the album. That's why the songs came off with the kind of appeal. Like I had songs like Asking God, Do you still love me? You know what I mean? All those songs came from that place, man. So I had eight songs, man. And I'm like, I'm ready to close this album, right? And then I went to sleep and had to dream about one more song. But I had the dream that I had, I ain't had nobody to sing it. So I told my um my um my mentor, I said, bro, this more like choir type stuff. I don't I don't know what to do. So he said, I got somebody for you. So he went and got me his the choir director from his church, Jeremy, man. Jeremy and this praise and worship team, man, they killed that song Die to Live. It's the first song on the album, but it was the last song that was recorded.

SPEAKER_01 26:05

Right.

SPEAKER_00 26:06

So that bro, I got a lot of feedback on the constellation album, bro. I think for me to have put that type of time and work into that, that's the most successful project I ever made in my whole musical career.

SPEAKER_02 26:23

Yeah, because I I listened to the album, and I like when you sent it to me, I was like, man, you got you got some fire right here, bro. And like people need to hear this. Uh and I was like, man, like you because I you know when we get in this country, Western, you know.

SPEAKER_00 26:38

Bro, people still asking for the album. People, you know, bro, people still in my bushes, like, man, you need to promote that some more man. That album is I'm talking about bishops, man, from churches and everything. Like, man, that came from a per place, man. More people need to hear that. That's all everybody keeps saying.

SPEAKER_02 26:56

Well, you well, you know the deal, man. You know, you know, say send that send that joint to me, man. So I can I can push that joint because people you need to hear it.

SPEAKER_00 27:04

Yeah, so yeah. So I gotta um, you know, going back to the cinematography, I'm gonna write a I'm I'm working on a movie right now called Die to Live. That's gonna be another opportunity to rebrand the album. All right, maybe making a movie off the song Die to Live.

SPEAKER_02 27:21

All right, well, talk a little bit about that with the movie, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:26

All right, man. Um, as far as the movie is concerned, it's really about my life, man. Um, I've been doing a lot, man. I've been through some real dark seasons of my life, man. And see, I used to be out in the streets, man, gangbanging and selling drugs and everything. So when I gave my life to God, man, that was like something real for me. You know, I was like, if I'm gonna serve God, I'm gonna be all the way in or I ain't gonna be in at all.

SPEAKER_01 27:53

Right.

SPEAKER_00 27:54

So when I got in church, man, you know, I was praising God, shouting out God, and God started revealing to me my spiritual gifts, man. You know, I started preaching, like doing all these things, man, but I still felt empty inside, man. I felt like I was becoming more of what the church wanted me to be instead of what God wanted me to be.

SPEAKER_01 28:17

Right.

SPEAKER_00 28:18

So I was a I mean, I became a deacon, I became a minister, man, I became an executive pastor, an apostle. Man, I'd have been all I didn't been all the way to the top of the church, bro. And the crazy part was when I went all the way up to becoming an apostle, I took a hard fall, bro. When I got to that point, it's like I feel like I fell off the mountain, bro. And what God was showing me was I want you to be who I want you to be.

SPEAKER_01 28:47

Right.

SPEAKER_00 28:50

So what happened was I had to kind of really die, bro. I had to die in a way that I that I never died just so that God could really create me to be who he really wanted me to be. And that die process was what I went through in my marriage, what I went through, um, you know, just different relationships, uh going through betrayal like this last year, man, 2025, man. Man, that might have been the hardest year of my whole life, bro. I took a lot of losses, bro. You you just seen it. You didn't bother. I took a lot of losses, bro. I lost my home, you know, just went through what I went through with the studio. I mean, people that I was cool with betrayed me. People lied to me, people tried to sabotage my name. Bro, I went through so much persecution in 2025 to the point, bro, I literally went to depression for a few months. I had to go see a darkest, bro. That's why I just stepped away from music for a few months, man, so I could regain momentum again, man. I had to I had to get to a place of healing, man. And so it's like the more I went through these situations, it made the songs that I wrote more real to me, bro.

SPEAKER_01 30:04

Right.

SPEAKER_00 30:04

I really had, I literally felt like I died, bro. And God brought me back to life again. Because I kept on having this, um, feel like I kept having this Lazarus moment, man, where I kept seeing myself walk out of out of a cave with grave clothes on, man. Like I felt God tell me, take off the take off the grave clothes, man. And those grave clothes was was all the weight that I was carrying, bro.

SPEAKER_01 30:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:32

I had to learn to let it go, man, so that God could, you know, resurrect me, man. I need to, I need to show enough resurrection in my life, bro. And God did that for me, man.

SPEAKER_02 30:44

Yeah, because I remember that the instrumental I wrote, uh Restoring Me. Uh the same way, going to a lot. And, you know, this, I don't know, it came the same way. Came, I was asleep, came in a dream. I was like, all right, but uh, I was just like, I started writing it, but I was like, man, I um never put nothing to it for a minute until one of the guys I was at a band rehearsal, and he was like, just send me the song. I was like, all right, I said I ain't got no words to it, but I but I wanted to keep it as like an instrumental. So like I get where you're at, um, and you know, I know that he's restoring you and you better than when you what you were in 25.

SPEAKER_00 31:23

Yeah, so you know, speaking of the movie, man, um the movie I'm gonna I'm gonna get a young guy to play me when I was younger, and I'm gonna go through the whole process of my life, man. From the movie gonna be raw, bro, but the whole message of it is die to live, man. Like there's no way you can really get to God without dying yourself, bro. We all we all try to find this way to get towards God. You know, some of us try to cheat our way there, but it's only real, it's only one way to get to God, man. You gotta die, die to the flesh, bro. Um all my fleshly desires that all my struggles that I suffered with, it's all gonna be in that movie, bro. From being a liar, being a cheater, being a womanizer, being a drug dealer, being a gangbinger. I was every I was every kind of man that exists except a man to God, man. I was in church, man, sleeping with pastors and and just doing doing the most, bro. And it's like I had I I spent the majority of my spiritual journey with a form of godliness, bro. I had the gifts, I had a form of godliness. But when I came when I became an apostle man, God said, Oh no, I ain't let I ain't no this ain't you won't be an apostle, but you're gonna be a real one. Right. And he knocked me off that mountain, bro. He knocked me off that mountain and shook my whole world, man. He took everything away from me, bro. Everything right to the point where I was homeless for a whole week before I even found my place. I had lost everything, bro. But you know, I spent three months going through depression in the season of repentance. It hurt it, bro. I thank God for restoration, man. Yep. And now, but what he did was he gave me new vision, new birth, a new vision. So this movie, man, this movie is gonna be powerful, bro. Powerful.

SPEAKER_02 33:33

Now, now I know one thing, you know, sometimes when when you when you know people play your play you and or you tell the story of your movie, you know, some people be like, ah, I want them to know that. Uh by just talking to you now, um uh just to seeing like where you at with everything and and and I can mean because you know a lot of people couldn't make a movie like this because they don't want people in their in their stuff, but you out here doing it to help help people, so that's that's real commendable.

SPEAKER_00 34:02

Well, I'm I I bro, my life is a sacrifice, bro. Like I'm not, I'm not. It used to be a time where I was ashamed. My shame is how I felt, bro.

SPEAKER_01 34:13

Right.

SPEAKER_00 34:14

I was ashamed to reach out to tell a pastor, hey man, I need help, man. I got I got a problem with lust, man. It was it was my ego, man. My ego is how I felt. I had issues within me that I that I was I was masking it, bro. I was going through like praying for people, laying hands, preaching and all that stuff. And I was I was I was dying, bro. So I don't I don't mind speaking speaking my experiences because I they I realized that everything that God allows me to do is to help somebody else.

SPEAKER_02 34:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:56

So my life ain't my own. So I don't mind being transparent about who I am and where I'm going.

SPEAKER_02 35:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:04

How you gonna be free and you holding everything in? Where the problem is, man, we worry about too much about what people think. I don't care what nobody thinks about me, man. Because guess what? At the end of the day, man, I serve God, man. Right. His opinion is the only one that really matters, because at the end of the day, man, she the only one goes to determine what my outcome is gonna be. Right. I just want other people to get it, man, because as men, man, a lot of us have these struggles that we internalize and we can't talk to nobody about it.

SPEAKER_01 35:38

True.

SPEAKER_00 35:39

You talk you everybody you talk to, they use it as a weapon against you.

SPEAKER_02 35:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:48

God gave you so much power now, you can't weaponize my testimony, brothers. Right. Because I that's because it's who because what I tell you is is what I was and who I was. I ain't that no more.

SPEAKER_02 36:01

Yeah, we need, yeah, because a lot of a lot of men out here that need they need somebody to talk to, but you know, like you said, um the trust factor, like men, we we don't, if we if we trust you, we trust you, but if we don't, then it's like uh I don't want to tell you nothing because you don't need to know that. Uh and it's we we all told people stuff, you know, that's why like I I keep my circle small because I know that, you know, my brothers is gonna look out for me. If I'm right or wrong, I might not want to even hear it, but they're gonna be like, yo, you were right or you was wrong. And so like, you know, because I know like a lot of people, you know, feel like you gotta tell everybody everything, which you don't, but like people you trust and you know that it's gonna be locked, sealed, and you know, it helps. That's why I feel like we don't even, as men, do a lot of counseling because we all in counseling, we're looking at each other like, do I can I trust this person? I don't really know him, can I trust him? Can I get can I really be vulnerable? That's that's pretty much what what it is.

SPEAKER_00 37:02

Yeah, because you know, like I said, man, as men, as men, especially black men, everything we do is we we is held against us. You can't function a relationship because a woman wanna take you down, make you feel like you ain't no man, tell you what a man is, and they don't they they don't know nothing about being no man, brother. Right. And you then you you're getting crucified. Then you gotta go to your job and get crucified. Everywhere you go, you gotta get crucified. And then what happens is men shut down, and then we don't talk to nobody, then they wonder why we're angry.

SPEAKER_03 37:37

Yeah. We just deal with it on our own.

SPEAKER_00 37:42

But what I did learn was discipline. One thing I will say I learned that this season that just passed, man, is how to how to accurately choose the people that I need to be around me, man. Yeah. See, when you bring when you allow people to be in your life, you gotta know what their purpose is in your life. You can't just have people lingering, lingering around in your life, man. Everybody in your life gotta play some type of role. And you gotta know the role that they play, so when you're not doing it, you know whether they need to be around or not. Sometimes we let any because our loneliness and vulnerability, we let anybody in. Yeah. And they come in and sabotage your whole program. Then you you get in relationships, you throw them upon, you throw them upon there with people that need to be healed. Now you caught up with that, then you gotta deal with all that backlash. It's a lot, bro. Yeah. Homeboys don't want to do not what they sell. They they they nothing but thieves stealing from me. And everybody that's around you, man, is like a tick sucking the blood away from you.

SPEAKER_01 38:49

Right.

SPEAKER_00 38:51

I just came to a point, man, where I had to put my crown back on my head, man, because I let my crown fall off. But no, I ain't doing it no more.

SPEAKER_03 39:02

They need more men like you out there out there, man.

SPEAKER_00 39:04

Uh well the first thing you gotta do, man, is you gotta gain emotional intelligence. Once you gain emotional intelligence, you'll you'll decide who needs to be here and who needs to go.

SPEAKER_01 39:15

Right. True there.

SPEAKER_00 39:17

You don't need no bi around you that can't control the emotions, man. Yeah there's a lot of men out here that can't control their emotions.

SPEAKER_01 39:26

True.

SPEAKER_00 39:27

That's why I can look at a man and tell if a man be raised by his mother and before the father by the way they are. Men that like to argue all the time.

SPEAKER_03 39:37

That's their mother spirit, man. Pop don't do that. You don't see pop running around arguing. He said he gotta stay and keep it moving. Right. That's the way I'm at. I say I gotta stay to keep it moving, man.

SPEAKER_02 39:59

So what so what are we looking for uh from you in uh 2026? Like project.

SPEAKER_00 40:04

All right, I got the unconditional love album coming out that should have dropped in November, but I had to put that on pause because I had things going on. So I'm be dropping that in April, the Unconditional Love album. Then I got a broken the Broken Sacks jazz um joint. I got a jazz joint coming out. It's called Broken Sacks.

SPEAKER_02 40:23

Oh, hold on, hold on, hold on. You ain't tell me about the jazz one. So we so we got jazz. All right, okay.

SPEAKER_00 40:33

It's different though than the regular jazz. What I did was I sampled jazz pieces from different jazz and made beats out of them. So it's like a lot of different jazz samples that I use and made beats. So it's cool, man.

SPEAKER_03 40:51

That one just came from nowhere.

SPEAKER_00 40:53

So you got you got the unconditional love album that'll be out in April, probably the second week of April. I gotta finish doing the mix and match when I got one more song I want to add to it. The Broken Jazz piece that'll be out in May. The movie, that's probably gonna be sometime next year. Um, and then my book, The T The Crown the Connection, Ten Love Languages for Kings. That song was done. I got three more chapters I gotta write for the Ten Love Languages for Kings. Crown the connection. Then I want to do a um, I gotta get with you on that tube, bro. Because mama told you I want to host the venue for the book signing and everything. Yeah, so we we're gonna get together one day. I just want to finish the book first before I really you know start worrying too much about that. So the book should be done. I'm gonna say May 1st. May 1st, the book should be done. All right. Um that's gonna be a big thing, man. Because that's gonna that book gonna be a big thing because there's never been another love language book since the original five love languages books. So definitely need to go. Because, you know, like I said, no diss to the author of the five love languages, but those love languages really only surface level love languages when it comes down to dealing with kings.

SPEAKER_01 42:16

Right.

SPEAKER_00 42:18

You know, I always say, you know, peace is a man's number one love language. That's number one peace. That's not part of the five love languages, they got access service, hospitality is better than access service, right? So I'm just gonna stop right there with that, but you can kind of pretty much see what kind of direction I'm going in with that. So when I do the when I do the um the book signing, I want it to be a royal thing. Yeah, you can't just come up in there with your Michael Jordan's on. It's gonna be like a formal joint, it's gonna be the VIP section, food gonna be catered, and I want everybody looking like kings and queens when they come, man. Right. I'm gonna get the guys that come down and perform some of the songs. So it's gonna be I'm gonna get like a couple poets to do spoken word. I'm gonna get the guys that come to perform, but they they out of the country right now doing different stuff.

SPEAKER_01 43:23

Right.

SPEAKER_00 43:24

When they come back, hopefully it'll be back in time when I need to do what I need to do for this. And yeah, man, it's gonna it's gonna be big, man.

SPEAKER_02 43:34

So so we see what you're doing. You got a lot going on. I'm looking looking forward to being a part of it. Uh, because you know, uh, we've been rocking for a minute.

SPEAKER_00 43:42

So um yeah, it's time for me to get the work, man. I've been stuck I've been chilling too long.

SPEAKER_02 43:48

Yeah, man. We need to get to get some of the get this music, these books, you know, we get these shows, man, because you know, you you got you got testimony that people need to hear.

SPEAKER_00 43:56

Yeah, for real.

SPEAKER_02 43:58

So uh any show. Shout outs uh you want to give out to your supporters out here?

SPEAKER_00 44:04

I just say shout out to everybody, man. All everybody that followed me, man. I don't know everybody, but I do want to say shout out to first my man. First, I want to say shout out to God, man. Everyone for God, man, would none of this even be possible, not even a vision in London self. I want to shout out to my man um Yancev Niji L, man. That's my God, man. That's where we I started with him, man, with the music tip. I want to shout out my little brother Young Dev. He's one of the hottest artists that I know in the Harrisburg area. Um I'm gonna say shout out to my mom and my mother, man. She always, man, no matter what I'm going through, man. Mom Dix, she always did, man. Shout out to you, my God, man. You my God, man. You you you've been rocking with me, man, even through the struggles, man. I just I just love everybody that rocked with me, man. You know, I'm genuine that art, man. I'm humble, and I appreciate the support, man.

SPEAKER_02 44:57

Yeah, we appreciate you, man. Push your radio, uh independent radio show, and indie hard. We appreciate you too. We're looking forward to uh pushing it, pushing your music. Get that.

SPEAKER_00 45:08

Oh, yeah, my and my podcast is gonna be coming soon too, man, in the summer.

SPEAKER_02 45:12

Oh, oh, you got podcasts too? All right, can I be? Grit the growth. Yeah, grit the growth, bro. All right, okay. Look forward to be on that too. So we my man got a lot going on. So y'all pay attention, follow. Hey, uh, for we before we check out, uh uh give them where they can follow you at all on your social media handles, too.

SPEAKER_00 45:30

Man, just does all you gotta do is type in King William Jews and everything can come up.

SPEAKER_02 45:34

All right, so you got King Williams.

SPEAKER_00 45:36

Is the real King William Jews at Instagram? I don't really be on that much. Is um Black King78 on TikTok? Um, King William Jews reloaded on Facebook.

SPEAKER_02 45:48

All right, so which one's your which one your most your most uh looked at? So they so they can they can see what you're doing.

SPEAKER_00 45:56

I don't know, man. I ain't gonna lie about I I think I like TikTok more than everything now, man. The rest of the stuff, Instagram garbage, bro. Like I it's like you gotta do too much, man. I like TikTok, man.

SPEAKER_02 46:07

So if you so follow your man on TikTok, you know, he's here, you know, he he he gonna be promoting this book, this this this music, and you know, so you're gonna definitely be here for it for a treat. So this is your boy. I've been hanging with my man uh King right here. Uh been really enjoying this interview. Um, hopefully grant me another interview when this book and song come out. But we're gonna sign out. This is your boy A D from Push Your Independent Radio Show and Andy Hart. One love.