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SPEAKER_02 0:01

I didn't need to play for a minute. I don't know what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_00 0:27

Take my heart, you break my heart and then you break away. I had to leave you where I met you with that body bag. Cause lady, every day the same. And I can't take this pattern. Can I get the shell in here?

SPEAKER_02 0:54

Alright, man, so we're about to get started. So you are ready. What's up, everybody? This is another sighting edition of Indie Spotlight. I'm your host, AD, and tonight we'll be featuring an artist whose music is built on realness, truth, and real life experience. Our guest has been gaining attention with his powerful single Honors, a record that speaks the importance of transparency, self-awareness, and staying true to yourself. I want y'all to please help me welcome Indicaz. How are you doing again, man?

SPEAKER_01 1:26

How are we doing, man? I can't complain, man. Like I said, I'm out here working right now in Vermont, just trying to find my way with a musical journey. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 1:35

Hey, so how how'd you get out there to uh Vermont, man?

SPEAKER_01 1:37

Well, my homie, I had a show out at in New York the day after the Knicks one at the Puerto Rican Day Parade. Yeah. I was performing and I was on a float, and my boy was like, yo, you should come out to Vermont and perform at one of my spots. And next thing I know, I'm on the train to Vermont, man. Just following my dream, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:58

So how does it feel like for you to be doing the thing that you're doing out here in the game, you know, trying to make your name, a name known for yourself?

SPEAKER_01 2:05

Man, it feels cool, man. At the end of the day, I still got a lot more work to be done. So I'm not gonna act like I even made it anywhere because that would be way too cocky. But I'm actually following my dream and, you know, just singing and trying to share my passion and share my life, you know, through my music with everybody, you know what I'm saying? So that in itself is a positive journey, you know, the peep people I see, the places I see, and you know, the people I change are helping my music, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 2:32

So, so if people don't know who you are, let's let's talk about like talking about you a little bit and where you're from. Uh, what got you into the music game and all that? Who was your influences?

SPEAKER_01 2:43

Okay, so I'm originally from Connecticut, you know what I'm saying? But I was in foster care, so like I really found myself when I moved to Maine when I hit my my early teen years, you know what I'm saying? And I still didn't even pursue my music career right away. I just probably started pursuing my music career probably like going on seven years now, because I've been rocking with Williams Media Group for almost about a year now. So I'm gonna say seven years. I've been uh pursuing a music career, and uh I don't know, I've been singing since I was five, you know what I'm saying? So doing talent shows, my mom is kind of the reason I'm an artist, you know, because you know, in the 90s, that's when RB and you know, that's when music was music, you know what I'm saying? So kid being, you know what I'm saying? I'm a kid being raised up in the 90s, so you know my mom was like, what we gonna do? You you got the talent, we gonna use it, you know what I'm saying? So I remember her my first talent show, she threw me out there to the wolves, you know what I'm saying? In a in a tuxedo with a cane, you know. I think I was probably like five years old, you know what I'm saying? And I and I won, you know what I'm saying? So that started the journey of me being a performer, you know what I'm saying? And I kind of didn't even realize I was a performer. I just thought this is this is what people do, you know what I'm saying? You like music, you sing it loudly. That's what I thought people did, you know what I'm saying? I just found out after that I had a talent, you know what I'm saying? I just like to sing, you know? That was it. And my inspirations, I'd have to say Kanye West and Kit Cuddy, man, always, I'm always saying them too. Just because Kanye West changed my perspective on music, and Kid Cuddy changed my perspective on life, man. I wouldn't be nothing without them two. You know what I mean? So I ain't even gonna try to cap and act like that was the case, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 4:31

So I know uh you've been with William Media Group, like you said, for a year. Yeah, weren't good people and all. So how did how did you get linked up with them?

SPEAKER_01 4:40

Man, to be honest, man, Nate, Nate's just a real one, bro. You know what I'm saying? I met him through his brother, and uh circumstances led to another. We rocked hard together, and it's been a brotherhood ever since, man. And he's helped me through obstacles and journeys that I couldn't even, you know what I mean, I couldn't even do by myself, let alone, you know what I mean, in the music world, you know what I'm saying? So he's helped me in the music world and also just be a better man, you know what I'm saying? You know, you know, definitely, definitely a big brother, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, shout out to Nate, uh shout out to Nate, man, for real, for real.

SPEAKER_02 5:18

Yeah, because I I've I've I've met him for Titan a couple of months now, and uh been looking out, I've been a good, good, good dude, good mentor, and all that. For real, for real. I like I like to shout out people that, you know, actually take the time to look out for indie artists and not trying to pull a fast one, pull a bullet. Exactly, exactly. No, because there's a lot of them out here that's that's that's doing that. Uh, but like I like that how he moves with the artists and everything. So, like, you know, we're gonna shout shout Nate out again.

SPEAKER_01 5:50

Sure, shout out Nate and William Media Group, man, everybody that's working with him, man. It ain't only Nate, man. There's a couple of people back scenes that definitely do a lot, man. Shout out Williams Media Group for sure, man. For sure. Right.

SPEAKER_02 6:03

So we're gonna talk about like what germ, what dramas uh shaped your sound?

SPEAKER_01 6:08

All right, so for sure, we're gonna definitely go RB, but a lot of people don't notice indie music. Like, you know how we got indie artists? So back like in the early 2000s, you just had like indie music, and it wasn't really pop or rock. It was just like, I don't, it was just alternative music, you know what I'm saying? Like one of my one of my favorite bands was the Frey. You know what I'm saying? A lot of people don't know who they was, but they they had a run in the 2000s, a good one. You know what I'm saying? And it's just music that people called it the pressure music back then. And now what do we what do they call it now? Crying on the beat? What is it? Crying in the beat.

SPEAKER_02 6:50

I don't know. I don't, after getting into the music and all that now, even doing these reviews and stuff, I hear a lot of good music. Some of it, I'd be like, damn, like where where have some of these people been at? Right. Because I I tell a lot of artists all the time, I listen to Series XM, listen to the, you know, and I hear the same stuff in rotation. I don't feel like in my in my my opinion, after having a station and all that, pushing music, that it should be that you have an hour of just indie artists. Because there's a lot of good indie music out there that's not heard. And uh uh I I like to, you know, shout out 10103.7 for doing the Monday, Monday mixes that we can hear these artists and showcase their their gifts and so everybody can network and you know get you out there on either podcasting or even just get your music heard because it's a I've just I've been really impressed even by I think I've been doing push the music for a minute, but I'm just really been impressed by what I hear from a lot of indie artists, and I feel like these mainstream platforms need to start recognizing the indie artists more because it's cool to hear every song from Drake, Kendra all the time, but it's like other artists out there that is. Yeah, for real, definitely.

SPEAKER_01 8:14

Yeah, I definitely get what you're saying. Like our local, like local radio stations that's big, they play the same rotation every day. How bad would it be for them to just throw in some local artists? And then they make it real hard for you to even be a local artist to get your music up there. You gotta do this, and I just I just feel like just give us an opportunity. We'll we'll we'll we'll show you what we got. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 8:38

So if you if you've been an indie artist, what has been the I would say the good and the bad from from being an indie artist that you can share with other indie artists that want to get out here in the game?

SPEAKER_01 8:49

Uh, I really don't have anything bad because I'm not trying to stir anybody away from following their dream. Right. You know what I'm saying? So I'm gonna just say I don't have anything bad for you. There's just obstacles and lessons I take. You know what I'm saying? To be honest. So, like one of the lessons I got from it is make sure wherever you get your beats, man, wherever you buy your beats, man, make sure you own them and you got the right thing behind them and you got paperwork. Because if you you get a song and you got a beat and it be fire, you want to make sure you own that, man, because next thing you know, you could you could go buy one of them beats you think you're buying and it's really leasing and you get past a certain amount, and now you don't own nothing. Now what you just did don't mean nothing because you didn't do it right. So, what I tell everybody, bro, if you go on and look up some beats, I know YouTube is easy, I know it's convenient, but just do your do your research on the beat because you could be, you could be making a fire song and it don't even belong to you.

SPEAKER_02 9:56

Yeah, I I I like that because a lot of artists out here, they they put out this this music, and you like, man, and I and I like to tell artists like the same thing because you never know if you're covering songs that just because nobody hears it now, say a year later and you blow up, right, and say a a a key a a let's just say a Christopher Williams of Jungly Gear, new edition. Prince Michael management comes out and says, Hey, I heard that that sample. Now I need that. You're doing something now. Now I need I need that bread. Right. Figure out how you can you can go to the litigation part, but you you owe them their money. So glad that you you you said that because uh I know a lot of artists need to hear that because it's is you know, we and I tell a lot of them that you you can make good music and but buy please buy the beats.

SPEAKER_01 10:50

Like don't be able to be able to be able to you go to B stars and people be thinking like you lease a beat and you go buy it, man, you gotta read that fine print because not only will somebody come after you if something's in it and you owe them money, say if you make a song and the song hit and you didn't fully buy the beat. Now, whoever made that beat, they get most of that money because you didn't follow the protocols of what you was about to do. So they you can't prove that that's your song. Who cares that your words are up there? You gotta legally know what you're doing when you're getting into this music industry.

SPEAKER_02 11:28

So, so I guess what I would uh also ask is like, could you help these indie artists that's trying to, that, that's that's getting in the game, not like the the the rules of you know, pushing music, you know, reading contracts and stuff. Because a lot of the artists, you know, it sounds good when they're trying to get in the game and you know, some sometimes they don't read what they supposed to be reading, and then they get themselves in a bad situation. So just wanted to you to like say something and help some of these newcomers out here.

SPEAKER_01 12:00

Yeah, for sure, man. You gotta make sure you read everything because even if read make sure you get a lawyer if it got to do with any deal. I don't care if you think it's the smallest deal, whatever it is, consult with a lawyer, man. And I was told that from somebody who went through it and explained it to me. Like, even that's what they get paid for. Even to ask them a question, if you gotta ask them a question, it ain't nothing to go find a lawyer and be like, yo, here's a couple dollars, read this over for me. Does it make sense? Is this something that I should do? Yeah, I'll I'll do you for that. If you're trying to do this for real, it's nothing to go do that. Because that type of situation could save you from a million dollars to a dollar. Seriously. That that simple. Because you read through the right thing and looked at the last page instead of just the first three pages, man, it might save your life and save your pocket. Right. I'll tell you on that.

SPEAKER_02 12:58

Also, you you're out here and you pushing music, and also to help the indie artist. What kind of advice would you give them about even pushing music and if it's not being, you know, to love their own music? Because sometimes people might constructive criticism might be a little tough on a lot of people.

SPEAKER_01 13:22

All right, so man, this is coming from somebody who I don't even I had to figure out what genre I was in because my music is so different that I just had to put soul just to have a category. I make music that I'm in my own lane, man. So to be honest, if you feel like you do something and you think your message is something powerful, man, I really don't care what certain critics think. Like, obviously, you need certain people to like your music to get to the top. But man, if you got something and you know you got something, man, rock with it, man. That's all I could tell you. Because at first I thought I ain't even have nothing. Because the way I make music and the way I deliver music, I don't write nothing down. I'm an improv artist. So all my music is off the top of my head. And everybody's like, man, nah, nobody could do that. Nobody could do that. Only person could do that was Jay-Z. And you sing, that's a lie. So it kind of messed up my confidence until I really was just like, nah, this is what I do. And if I need to prove it to you, I'll prove it to you. And that's it. That's how I feel about it.

SPEAKER_02 14:28

So any any musical influences in your life, uh family-wise?

SPEAKER_01 14:38

She can't sing, but she the reason I'm me, my mom, man. My mom, ever since I was young and copying songs, she was like, you wanna do this, then we gonna do this. And like I said, I was five years old, man. I was five years old when I had a tuxedo on and I was going on a competition to sing, I believe I could fly, and I won, man. You know what I'm saying? So I'm five. I don't know, like I might want to say, yeah, I want to sing, but it had to be who? My mom that really was like, all right, we're gonna do this, we're gonna throw them to the wolves, we're gonna, we're gonna put them out there. And every single time she threw me out there, there was like five or six, you know what I mean? I I knocked them down, and it just went from there, man. I love singing. The positive feeling I get from the reactions from people and the people come to me and be like, yo, your music, man, that shit. I bit sorry in my French, but I've been through that. I feel that, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I mean? My first ever show in the woods, I'm doing a song and I'm singing a note, and people are walking up to me pointing to their arms because they got chills. You know, that's the stuff we do it for. If you don't feel nothing when you do that, I don't know, man. I don't know. That's the craziest feeling. There still ain't nothing that knocks that feeling, man. When you on stage and people just like vibing to something you created, that's that's that's a feeling like no other, you know? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:00

So what what do you feel like when you hear your music on like these reviews or just like people like that saying, hey, your music is in rotation on my station? Like, how does that make you feel?

SPEAKER_01 16:14

You want you I I really don't know. There's two, there's two, there's two sides to that. Because with me, when it comes to my music, my music is my diary. So I gotta go through pain. I gotta go through stuff for me to make the music that people like. So part of me is like, okay, y'all like it, but do y'all relate? And then the other part of me is like, man, now that you heard that pain, do you judge me? So it's a double-edged sword. You know what I'm saying? Because my I I don't just play around. You know how people just go in the booth and they make a club song, or I really don't know how to make a club song. I gotta go through a club moment for me to make a club song. All my music comes from my from my chest, man. So I gotta feel it to make it. And if I don't feel it to make it, then it ain't gonna get made. So to answer your question, is I'm always wondering what they're thinking, because my greatest wish that I've always wanted is to have somebody else's ears listening to my music. You know what I mean? That's my one wish, you know what I mean? I don't wanna be a superhero, I don't want to be nothing. I want to hear my music in somebody else's ears for a day. See what they hear. You know, and and I don't know, maybe I I don't know. That's my biggest wish, you know?

SPEAKER_02 17:30

Yeah, uh, and and you doing it like, you know, you're doing it the right way. Uh I I like how you move. You you don't you don't move like, you know, you move quiet, you know. Yeah. Oh so when I see like you you you performing at local or venue or you over you was over in Italy and all that, I was like, man, he's he's really he's really doing this big one. So uh let's let's talk about uh what was the experience like going over to uh to Italy?

SPEAKER_01 17:57

Man, it was pretty cool, man. I'm not even gonna lie. It it was a life-changing experience, but ever I feel like there's so many more. I really don't get excited about things. And that's probably my fault because I feel like if you get excited, that means you wasn't like, like, you weren't ready for it. It was a surprise. Man, I know this is my life, man. I know there's so much more. I know there's gonna be arenas with thousands of people. I know I'm gonna change something with the sound that I make from this music. So I'm just grinding, bro, and I'm never, never satisfied until that time comes when I'm around one of the greats, man. That's all I don't know, man. I just gotta keep working, man. That's how I feel. So I don't know, man. You're gonna have to ask me in a couple of years when I'm done grinding, man, because I don't know. I've been asked, they've been asking me, how you feel about performing on the float? It was a job. How you feel about performing at Times Square? I had to get the job done. How you feel about your song being on the radio? It's about time. I gotta finish getting this job done. That's all that goes through my mind. And I probably should sit back and enjoy the moments, but we got more work to do.

SPEAKER_02 19:11

So, back in the kitchen. Got you. So eat even while you're cooking in the kitchen, you you ain't you ain't never like sit there and and and smell the aroma. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:23

Man, that's it. Yeah, I have, but for a brief second, because I gotta get back to work, right? We gotta get back to the cooking, right? So for a brief second, I'm like, yeah, I know this, ooh, this to mm, that smelled good, but I can't eat it yet, because I gotta get this ready for the customers. You know what I'm saying? That's the best, you know what I'm saying? So I'm almost there. I I feel like I'm almost there.

SPEAKER_02 19:45

Yeah. I I will tell you this though. You should still, just from a musician and and everything, you should still take those moments to still sit back and reflect on, like, hey, because to be honest, you a lot of people may never get the opportunities that you get to perform where you where you form performing at a lot of people are just like, hey, I want to be over to Italy, I want to be at Times Square, I want to be down at on the parades, I wanna I want to be in in in other places. So you I say like, just take those moments when you get those those f those moments when you're just like just chilling and all that, just take those moments to just like, hey, like, yo, I'm really doing some big shit, like, you know, and right uh a place where, you know, and it doesn't make I I I'm I'm cause I'm the same way. People might say I'm I'm a drummer, so somebody might say, Hey, yo, you you you was chillin' today. I'm like, alright, I missed the note. And they like, right, right. Well, I miss I miss that lady. I added my own stuff in. And they like, well, no, you did a good job. I said, Yeah, but like, y'all saying it, but I'm like, Yeah, it makes you want to do better than people always like, you know, taking a humble approach is cool because a lot of people out here, they put in our trash. Right. And they go and they gonna stick with it, they they they yeah. That's that that is a is a hit. And we might be like, I don't know, but like like just take those moments, man, because like I I as musicians, we get pulled in every which way.

unknown 21:14

Right.

SPEAKER_02 21:15

Sometimes we don't have those moments to just enjoy, like, hey, yeah, we we really accomplished. Like I I see here as as well as myself, I have a radio station and I'm I'm I got spins after after a month. Didn't think that. On on platforms overseas and all and all that. I didn't think I would be there. But I take those moments because hey, it's not about me per se, but I think you guys for like sending y'all music because like we like we're not we're nothing without y'all. So if y'all if y'all don't y'all don't send us what we need, then we can't we can't we can't do what we gotta do. So like to sit here and and talk to people that Like, I never even thought I'd be talking to you. I I sit back these interviews and I'm like, man, I I just talked to one of the guys that's like he's doing his thing out here. He's on travel. He took the time out. He had to he had to do it, but he took the time out from his busy schedule to be like, hey, and I'll be like, they they came to talk to Lil' Me. And so I I understand where you're at, but like cherish those moments because a lot of people would they was in your shoes to be able to do some of the things because I I see it with artists that's like, hey, they're trying to figure out how to get work. They try to figure out how to get these events and you know they they just they're they just having a hard time, but right, right. So yeah, so this this I'll just tell you that as as as wisdom for me to just hey, just take a moment to think about, hey, man, my music is on it's on a it's on multiple platforms. You're on a lot of platforms. Right, right. You it's on fun on platforms, you do you overseas, right? You hit doing like major things. So like just take the moment, you know, to to savor them flavors, you know, because you know right. Because like you don't want nobody else to be eat eat eating off that at that plate and you ain't exactly Exactly, right, right, right.

SPEAKER_01 23:16

Like I had to make a big point about it. The Knicks just won a championship and I was performing at the Puerto Rican Day Parade the day after that. My boy had to really sit down and tell me, like, bro, you understand what you what you're doing? Right. And I'm like, right, right.

SPEAKER_02 23:29

Make it make sense. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, because you you out there, you know, you know, it's 53 years and they they finally did their thing. So you out there. Right. Right. You out there doing your thing where like they they I mean, like they happy out there. So like I'm I'm I'm I'm one of those ones like, you know, like I I see like what you're doing, see the greatness in you.

unknown 23:50

Right.

SPEAKER_02 23:51

Just take those take those moments, because you go, you're gonna, you're gonna get to a point that you're gonna you're gonna win awards, and you're gonna have to, you it's gonna be like, hey, like you're gonna have to think about like, yo, I just I just want this award, so and so. And you know, so even while you still, you still, you know, you still cooking, you know, you can still, you know, have them moments to, you know, save saving them appetizers, man. You know what I'm saying? I know we do I know we do a food preference to that, so hopefully too hot. Right, right, right, I got But I but I like it though. I one thing I was I was I was thinking about with you, because you say you don't write down anything. So take me to the process of you with without you writing down any any words, bars, anything, take me to the process of you making your song with with the thoughts in your head.

SPEAKER_01 24:39

All right, so then so how it kind of goes down is I I figure out what beat I'm gonna do. And if I I have the beat, by the first, about like 13 seconds, I'm already dissecting and knowing what I want to do with the beat. So then I come up with the hook, which I feel like the hook is the most important, most important part of a song. So once I have the hook established by replaying the beat over and over in my head, once I have the hook established in my brain, I'll go to the studio and then I call it imprint and I'll just tap in and I'll just close my eyes and magic's made.

SPEAKER_02 25:21

So you like you like Lil Wayne mixing with some with Jay-Z?

SPEAKER_01 25:25

Yeah, it's a little different. That's why I call it improv because freestyling, I feel like it's just rapping. I create a whole song in the matter, I don't know, it's different, man. I I got videos of it. I'm gonna post them soon and figure out because I feel like it's a it's a process that a lot of people don't have. So when you set tell it to people, you gotta have facts and proof. So like half of the people I work with, they like, man, I've never seen it. I'm not even gonna like I just did a song with somebody the other day. It took me, I wanna say, 10 minutes. And he's like, what? And I'm like, I don't know, but I need to hurry up and get back in there so I can memorize those words real quick, because if I don't, I'm gonna lose them. So like when I create a song, I gotta go back and learn the song. I gotta learn the song. It takes me about two days to learn my own song. It's funny to believe, it's funny to hear, but after I make a song, I gotta replay it like two days just in case. I remember I created a song one time and I had a show. It was a total accident. I created a song and I had a show and I wanted to do the song for the show. So I literally had to create the song and then replay the song for like two days. And everybody around me, like, yo, why you replaying your own song that much? I'm like, oh, I'm learning my own words. And they're like, oh, you were serious about that. You really did. I don't know where the words come from. It's a gift.

SPEAKER_03 26:45

It's a gift.

SPEAKER_02 26:46

Yeah, I like it. So where's the inspiration for honors come from?

SPEAKER_01 26:53

That's a true story, man. It's no inspiration, man. Like, I be traveling, man, everywhere. And in certain places, there's certain people that I have to see in them certain places. I don't care what I'm going through, what's going on. You know, when I'm in your area, I'm on your line. So that's just the people to the buck, man. That's just being real with you. You you heard the lyrics. You know, when I'm in your city, I'm on your line. So stop playing this around that time. You know what I'm saying? So that's basically what the song is. When I'm in that certain state, I got memories that about that certain person. So I gotta see him. I don't know if anybody travels and stuff and got certain people everywhere. You know that certain person you gotta see when you go to a certain place, you know? Right. I feel you.

SPEAKER_02 27:45

So that's basically what the song is, man. Gotcha. So what's separate So, in your opinion, what separates you from other artists in today's music industry?

SPEAKER_01 27:54

Let's first start off with how I make music. I don't know nobody make music the way I make music. And I really don't know any. I I gotta say that this the right way, because I don't want to say it wrong. Us as men, not only men, us as black men, we don't have a way to express pain. And and and we can't cry certain days, you know. We can't be emotional most of the time. We gotta be tough or the backbone, or just, you know, we gotta be not emotional. So I'm able to do something that a lot of men can't do and they really want to. So I feel like I'm helping, you know what I'm saying? Like, I remember I I made one of my songs a couple years ago and I was in a studio I didn't go to before, and I showed somebody, and he literally looked at me and was like, bro, you said some shit that I can't say. And that's real, and and that's it stay with me because how many times have we not been able to say stuff, not as only as black men, but just men in America who can't, you know, because we can't be weak or we can't be emotional. Well, I can, and I ain't afraid to show it. So it is what it is.

SPEAKER_02 29:09

All right, I like that. So, what message do you want your fans, our supporters to take from, you know, the business that they hear from?

SPEAKER_01 29:16

Just keep going, man. Don't like life could be hard, but there's always other sides, and there's always a better day if you have a positive outcome. Like, and just keep trucking, man. Life goes on. You know what I mean? That's you know what I mean? Like I'm able to express my pain through music, and I hope I can help and relate, help people relate to my words, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 29:39

All right. So um, how do you feel this when a person comes to you and just be like, man, like what I heard, like really like, you know, I was going through some stuff of this, like what I heard, heard you on stage, or I heard you somewhere, it just really like lifted my spirit, or just helped me through a situation. How does that make you feel?

SPEAKER_01 29:59

That's what I do this for, man. That's what I really stopped a nine to five, and like I really pursued this music career because I found out music heals. Vibrations help, you know, like being a certain song could come on and literally just relate to your life so much, it could just help you, you know what I'm saying? And I know what vibrations can do. A lot of people don't know that music is a vibration that can heal certain frequencies and vibrations can literally heal you instantly. You know what I mean? Like, that's why back in the day they used to have the big bells at the churches. They used to play them all the time, because that vibration would heal people, you know? It's just music is a healer, you know what I'm saying? And that's what I do it for. I want to help people. I want to be, you know what I mean? That's what I make music for.

SPEAKER_02 30:51

Alright. How how do you write for personal uh when you create music? What does create too? Everybody's going through the process of discovering their own identity. How would you describe your sound today?

SPEAKER_03 31:12

Unique, different, organic, real.

SPEAKER_01 31:18

You know what I mean? Just that real music that people been wanting to hear that they feel has been missing for a long period of time, you know? That's what I feel like I bring to the world.

SPEAKER_02 31:30

So how have you overcome like like trials and tribulations?

SPEAKER_01 31:35

I feel like music, that's kind of but like like I said, I'm an improv artist, so I gotta go through stuff to make uh music, and that's how I make music. So how I heal is by going into the booth and screaming out however whatever comes out and then letting the world hear it, you know?

SPEAKER_02 31:58

So do you have uh you have kids?

SPEAKER_01 32:00

Yeah, yeah. So do your kids, do you do you let your kids listen to your music? Yeah, my kids listen to my music for sure, for sure. My kids is my biggest fans and my nephew for sure. Kids love my music, man.

SPEAKER_02 32:13

So how do you feel like when your your kids, they they sit back and they're like, oh, that's daddy. You know, he he he out there doing his thing, and you know, and because I know like these new kids, they they like, yeah, this is my dad, so they showing everybody. And other people like, man, your dad, your dad's really on, you know, on it.

SPEAKER_01 32:29

So like how did that make you feel? It made me feel okay. You know, one performance I did in Maine, I was able to actually have my son and my nephew in the crowd, which actually felt pretty good. You know what I mean? It was pretty cool. And one of my biggest fans is my nephew, you know what I'm saying? Shout out to Malachi. I mean, he just graduated today, actually. It's crazy. Um shout out to my nephew, you know what I mean? But yeah, he's one of my biggest fans. You know what I mean? He's the reason I actually also pursued a career as well, because I was living with my, you know, my street sister at the time, and my nephew was like, I love your music, man, and I I wish you would become an artist. And next thing you know, a year later I was an artist, and yeah, he he he's a big supporter. Big supporter.

SPEAKER_02 33:11

All right, I love that. Uh how would you, I guess my next thing would be, what would you tell your younger self if you could go back and, you know, you know, could talk to him about what experiences he would he would have or what he would see positive of right now?

SPEAKER_01 33:30

Um, the one thing I would tell myself is don't be afraid to sing, man. So for a long time, I was afraid to sing in front of people. And I wish I didn't do that, man. I I I hid my talent from the world. And not that I don't love the journey that I'm on now, but I just feel like I could have done and more if I would have just believed in myself at a younger age, you know.

SPEAKER_02 33:52

Alright. So how did your uh so I guess how was your music evolved since you first started out in the game?

SPEAKER_01 33:59

Oh, my music evolves every other time I get into the studio because I'm an improv artist. So every time I hear somebody I like or I hear something I like, I absorb it and I put it to my own rhythm, and now it's a part of me. So it's kind of a gift, you know what I'm saying? So I'm always evolving, I'm always elevating as an artist every day.

SPEAKER_02 34:23

So even through everything you've been through, what have what have you learned through the obstacles that you that you went through?

SPEAKER_01 34:30

Just to keep persevering and keep going, man. There's always tomorrow, man. You can never stop. Just because you ain't see something change now, you gotta keep going. I remember somebody wise told me that you ain't gonna see nothing until 10 years, man. I don't care. I don't care what it just keep stay consistent. Ten years. If you feel like you ain't do nothing in 10 years, alright, you could give up. But before that, what you giving up for? What you giving up for?

SPEAKER_02 34:57

Just keep going.

SPEAKER_01 34:59

Yeah. This music is endless. There ain't no age on music. So you could be, you could be a hunter and still get a right, you know what I mean, and still make that one hit and be good, man. If you this is your dream, money shouldn't be the reason that you stopped doing it. Right. I don't want to hear that. Money, not making money shouldn't be the reason that you stop following your dream. Then your dream wasn't music, your dream was being rich. And there's thousands of ways to do that besides being an artist. Yep. So go find one of those, buddy.

SPEAKER_02 35:30

Yep. So we we come into, we're gonna do some little little fun, rapid-fired questions for you so your your audience they can know, get to learn a little bit more about you, whatever they haven't learned. So we're gonna start off with your favorite artist. My favorite artist is Kid Cody, Kanye West. Alright. Your favorite favorite album.

SPEAKER_03 35:50

Favorite album, Man on the Moon. Alright. Favorite food. I'm a fat kid, dog. Don't many asking that.

SPEAKER_01 36:02

Chicken chicken wings, man.

SPEAKER_02 36:04

Chicken wings, alright, alright, okay. A dream collaboration. Kid Cuddy and Kanye West. Alright. Okay. Favorite city to perform in. Wherever they love me. Studio or stage to work in. Say that again? Studio or stage to work in.

SPEAKER_01 36:26

Wherever Max is, that's my producer, my engineer. Wherever he is, that's my favorite studio.

SPEAKER_02 36:33

Morning person or night out. Night out. Most artists are easily night out, so that's when the career.

SPEAKER_03 36:49

What's the biggest uh motivation? What does success look like to you?

SPEAKER_01 37:04

My family and me don't want for nothing and generational wealth, man. I want it to last forever. I want there to be ten grandkids in ten generations to say, yo, look what great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandpa indica did. We had this because of him. You know what I'm saying? That's what I want to hear. That's what I want to feel. I want to be somewhere wherever, you know, wherever, you know, whatever you believe in, whatever, heaven, whatever it is, I want to be there knowing that I helped a generation of people with my voice.

SPEAKER_03 37:41

That's what I want. One word that that describes. Unique. I agree.

SPEAKER_02 37:52

So we come to the next uh the next segment. You know, what's what's next for you? So what do you have? What do you got coming up next?

SPEAKER_01 38:00

Alright, so August 1st, I got a showcase coming up, albums coming out in a couple of months. I got a new single, party vibes dropping with my boy T Easy from New York. Shout out, man. That's gonna be a movie. I got music videos coming out very soon. I just found a location for the party nights video. If we could get everybody out there, man, it's gonna be a movie, man. So just look, look, look, look out for more soul music coming from Indica Trells. This is just the beginning, I'm telling you. When that's gonna drop.

SPEAKER_02 38:35

Say that again? When next thing we'll drop.

SPEAKER_01 38:38

I want to say within a month, you're gonna hear something about it. Just tune in on any platform, Indica Trell's. You know what I mean? My Facebook, Indica Trails, my Instagram, Indica Trails, anywhere you want to find me, Indica Trails. Don't be afraid to message me and ask some questions, man. I'm a friendly guy sometimes.

SPEAKER_02 38:56

So when you sat there, don't tell your people to send that drunk to me, something. Definitely press that drunk.

SPEAKER_01 39:01

Definitely, I've got you. So what legacy do you want to leave through your music? Like I said, I want everybody to know that I've been through stuff, but instead of crying about it, I make good music you can relate to. You know what I mean? Let's change the world one note at a time. Let's go, let's get it. All right. I love that. Do you want to give any shout outs before we we close? Shout out everybody that supports my music. Shout out my mom. Shout out Nate. Shout out my new family that I found in Vermont, man. Shout out everybody that just wanna stay positive and throw away the negativity. Because positivity brings light and negativity brings dark, man. Let's stay positive out here, man. I like that.

SPEAKER_02 39:42

We need more of that now. A lot of a lot of crazy stuff going on in the world. It's good that we we have a platform where indie artists can come talk. Just be comfortable and just have a have a friendly conversation. You know, just enjoy some time because I know it's it's a lot that, you know, you're working. We all trying to do do things and the and I hate it to make it, but it's good that we can have these moments to sit down with you guys and just get to know you guys a little bit better, because sometimes we listen to the music and we think, oh, because of what they're saying in the music. We stereotype people and we think, oh, that's them. Right, right. And so even having this platform helps me because it's like, hey, I learned about y'all and I'm like, hey, well exactly. They kill people like it. They they just they hungry and they making their own music. So it's like, you know, you just gotta just support and and have the back because I had to realize if, you know, with being an indie artist that you are, that a lot of people don't support like they should.

unknown 40:47

Right.

SPEAKER_02 40:47

So they want you to support them.

unknown 40:49

Right.

SPEAKER_02 40:51

Hey, you know, support everybody, because you gonna want your music is gonna come out, and you're gonna want somebody to share your music, push your music, and you can't just have it one way where I'll support you, but I'll be like, hey, bro, I got a song coming out next week. I need you to, since you got some connects, let me let me give you that job so you can push it for me. You like it.

SPEAKER_01 41:13

Right, exactly, right, right, right. You're already definitely, bro, definitely. And thank you, man, for real, for doing the interview and doing, you know, shout out for for sending the the the fly you did and it, that, that, man, shout out everything, man. You did, we, we doing this together, man. Brothers in one one one arm trying to be something, man. So I'm happy I could definitely work with you, brother, as well. Thank you. I appreciate that, man.

SPEAKER_02 41:37

So I thank everybody so much for joining us. It's been a pleasure to your journey and your music to everyone tuning in, man. So you support Inner Catrell stream, his music, follow his social media and check out his new single, Honest. This is your boy AD with Indy Spotlight and Lyrical Lux. Until next time, continue to support independent artists and keep the music alive.

SPEAKER_01 42:02

You already know, man. Let's go, let's get it. Thank you for having me, Brody. And I'm gonna definitely lock in with you, man, for sure. And you have a beautiful night. I'm gonna get back to this money, man. Alright, get back to that money, man. You already, bro. Thank you. Peace, bro. All right, bro. We already won.