Bray Smizzi

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SPEAKER_02 0:31

Could be friends, but it's still remaining the paint up. You fucking me over now. Don't wanna hang it spot and cause if I do I ain't choking you is the same. Fuck it. I'll make it quick. Take a gun create a bang. Yeah, I could. And tell the judge I misunderstood. I gave my life to this chicken. She said, fuck it. Like more than wood. I think I should choke this bitch out. Fuck nah. I'm giving it. This is my last will. To you, I got my last bill. Took advantage of me once, twice, you won't live. My last will to you. I got my last bill. Took advantage of me once, twice, you won't live. I disgusted it myself for all the love that I felt. I've given you my fucking arm and you letting it don't care on Valentine's Day. A banner you give it to someone else. I swear to God, when we buck I'ma try to make something different. Rip out your butt in the sop again and buck you with fingernail. Type you to a chip, smack your ass, and then I pull your hair. How's it feel now? Like it does the shit make you proud to be able to get in a motherfucker around town. This is my last wheel to you. I've got my last biddle, took advantage of me once, twice, you won't live. My last will to you, I've got my last biddle, took advantage of me once, twice you won't live.

SPEAKER_01 1:44

My last will, call this my last verse. Cause if she don't wanna be rebranding a hearse, be with that money, or you even be I don't know what's worse. But once I figure it out, I let you know rehearsed. My swag and joy the attention from the phrase you once had. But they not now could think to convene to my best repair. Why say it's not? You knew I wasn't right when you met me. Now like she never been the wheel. You just appear there.

SPEAKER_02 2:09

This is my last will. To you, I've got my last video to convention once, twice you won't live. My last will to you. I've got my last video to convene. Something once, twice, you won't live. Don't do this like that.

SPEAKER_01 2:24

You know I deserve you. So don't get mad if you see a number of a too. You can't turn a hoe into a husband. You know this face. If we don't, I just know that the hoe will never die for you. If you think I'm gonna try something, keep waking on it. This is my last wheel. Release this after my diet right. I'm sorry for making trauma. Shakespeare. This is my last wheel.

SPEAKER_02 2:49

So you I've got my last video to convene children once, twice. You won't leave my last wheel. So you I've got my last video to convene to one.

SPEAKER_04 3:02

I'm in my own lane, I ain't trying to sit. This shit feels like I just won the championship. Acknowledge me while I'm in my brain. Cause in this game, I came to bring pain. I'm in my own lane, I ain't trying to sit. This shit feels like I just won a championship. In this game, I came to bring pain. Nobody wants me to do music, y'all. Want me to tell me, y'all. I do just a dog to really fuck with my music. Move it screen. I'm making movies like I'm on the big screen. I know you see me. I win this. When you really taste this pick. Not my fault. They just move the music. And I'm stumbling on the recipe how to do it. If you rockin' with me, I gotta you. I'm in my own lane, I ain't trying to sit. This you feel like I just want to trip in chilling, man. Acknowledge me. While I'm in my brain. Cause in this game, I came to bring three. I'm in my own lane, I ain't trying to sit. This you feel like I just want to jump in. Acknowledge me. While I'm in my brain. Cause in this game, I came to bring three. I'm in my own lane, I ain't trying to sit. This you feel like I just want to tricky. Acknowledge me. While I'm in my brain, 'cause in this game, I came to bring three. I'm gonna be how you not go for win. I listen to this full respect for me, don't fight on the feeling like I'm wrist for the bow. Oh, and feel me. And I'm clean beat. Because niggas gotta see me with everything. I feel like boy, like a fucking king. Feeling like I'm on my knees in the middle of the lane, right? In the middle, rain. I'm not a lane of the number one again. I'm in my own lane, I ain't trying to sit. This you feel like I just want to jump in and chill, man. Acknowledge me. While I'm in my brain, 'cause in this game, I came to bring things. I'm in my own lane, I ain't trying to see. While I'm in my brain, 'cause in this game, I came to bring three. I'm in my own rain. I ain't trying to see. Acknowledge me. While I'm in my way. I came to bring pain.

SPEAKER_05 6:16

Hey yo, what's up, bro? How you doing today?

SPEAKER_06 6:19

Man, I am extremely blessed.

SPEAKER_05 6:22

Glad to hear that, bro. So we're about to get into it. I'm gonna introduce you, then we're gonna get into this interview, all right?

SPEAKER_00 6:29

All right, man.

SPEAKER_05 6:30

All right, so check this out. This is your boy. You know how we do it here on Indie Pusher uh podcast show. It's your boy A D. You tapping in live where we push independent artists to the next level, giving them a platform to shine. Today we got a special guest in the building coming straight from the heart of Memphis, Tennessee, a bold voice, raw energy, and unfiltered truth in every bar. This artist is repping real life, real grind, and real southern roots. We're talking about the artist whose stands, whose sound blends with classic Memphis vibes, with a modern-day hanger, honker, tracks that hit hard, speak truth, and carry that championship mindset. If you haven't heard records like Championship or Trail Talk, trust me. You're about to tap into something serious today. He's been making noise on stage like stages of and spotlights and stepped into the spotlight with the MPR Tiny Death contest. So you already know the grind is real out here. So with no further ado, I want y'all to turn up with me and get in with it with the one and only Bray Smith Smithy. So how you doing today, brother? I'm glad to hear that, man. So we're gonna talk about, you know, you growing up in Memphis. How did the sh how did the city sick your sound?

SPEAKER_00 7:59

Well, um well moved to Memphis in '96 because my mama alone let my mama, she wanted to be close to her mother. So we moved in here and like Memphis really shook my sound, like really didn't ever it really didn't captivate me like how I used to like how I did, you know what I'm saying, as I was making moves. Cause my mama was listening to Master P. She was listening to up north, I mean Master P but more up north, like Door Dive, Twister, you know, Tech Nine, all them type of guys. She was listening to more to Master P than 36 Mafia. I got on the 36 Mafia like a probably like three years after I guess the Master P phase, they fizzled out, but you know, once uh once I was getting a who run it, who gets an employee from and all that, up until they won their Academy Award. I was a 36 Mafia here, like for real, just paying attention to everything they do. So like but like Tila, Young Key, Kumin of Maine, A Ball, L MJ G. I'm I I feel I feel banger, but at least I can admit it. I wasn't put on to Tommy Wright III until high school. King Pen, Skinny Pimp. I was listening to him on and off. Kish and I was listening to him like straight, straight out of it's and like once he came out with Crispy, I was I was in love with how he was moving. I don't listen to Fraser Boy like that. I love Lil White. I wish Lil White and him and them would do a song together. But like like up until I uh linked it with T Bow, I really didn't pay attention to like I was making like Memphis sound and music. I was just making music. You know what I'm saying? I ain't trying to categorize it. I was trying to just make music, you know, get get our voice out there, because like like it's a billion voices out there that do music, but not everybody can get picked up and you know be like respected. Cause like you mentioned championship and trail talk together. And championship is recorded like four years ago, and Trill Talk was recorded 13 years ago.

SPEAKER_05 10:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 10:13

So like I I love that, you know, you you mixed it with the old with the new, and then how you came out with the greatest thing, and then then hit me with last wheel, like like you really listen to the music, and that's what I greatly appreciate. Like, because uh anybody can say they they heard it, but for you to actually listen to the music, and you know, like I'm working with somebody who likes the last wheel. So hopefully before the summer end, I can do a video to last wheel. So that's my focus, trying to do a video for last wheel. Cause like they I feel like that's a summer tune of the song, which you know what I'm saying, like a lot of people might not feel like it, even though it's talking about domestic violence, like I just it's just the beat making me feel like it's a summertime.

SPEAKER_05 11:00

Okay. So like what makes you, since you're out there in Memphis and all, what makes you different from any any artists down south, up north, midwest, and the west coast?

SPEAKER_00 11:11

Um, really, to be honest, like I I haven't been out as much. You know what I'm saying? I've like been preserving my energies because like once I perform, I'm really performing. Once I'm out there, I'm really out there trying to network and you know, keep, you know, keep in touch with people and actually like build real relationships. Everybody's scared to build real authentic relationships because they used to be, you know, f'd over majority of the time. So I'm I'ma be authentic. I'ma just be straight up and real with you, like if we gonna work or not. You know what I'm saying? It's a lot of people I do wanna work with and that's just it, just work with one time and that's it. A lot of other artists like Admonished, like he sent me beats to just do Admonished music. He from New York, he sent me a whole beat pack so I can write and do the EP. And he ain't like I didn't even ask him for it. He just was like, Man, I think your voice will go right with these beats. Like, just like that. And like he been looking out for me, putting me on to stuff like this whole time. You know, if if it ain't no competition, you know, show that. Don't don't don't be trying to gatekeep it everything, because like I I used to share everything because I was sharing the like you mentioned, I was putting on trying to get on the NPR kind of this, you know, and like I was going through the worst, one of the worst periods of my life when I decided to you know what I'm saying? I had to build the confidence into myself, and that's when I knew I was gonna have to take this serious because I'm sitting on music and I and I know myself is great enough and it's better, and I know myself better than other people because they not sharing it, they not reposting it. They, you know, they feel some type of way about my music when I ain't got no reach. If you got a bigger reach than me, why you just won't share it or repost it. And then my music also has a meeting. Somebody told me that, and then I know I'm putting a message in them, but I just want the outside uh ear to tell me that, oh yeah, you're putting a message in your music. That's probably why people don't mess with it. You know what I'm saying? But I love I love when people overlook me as if I'm not as if I'm just saying some irregular stuff with everybody repeating the same thing over and over and over again.

SPEAKER_05 13:36

So by you saying all that, do you like have like people out there that like like how does your support system like look like for you when you create and and you put music out?

SPEAKER_00 13:50

Um, okay, my co my support system like Bando. Bando to Gang True, he makes music too. Like he um he tell me to keep going, you know. Like I got people that that tell me to keep going, like my uh my Barbara Devo slice. You know, I got a couple homegirls that tell me to keep going, like Princess Kendall, my God sister Tank, you know what I'm saying? But like they they it's like it's it's they show the support, but it's like it's limited because like you know what I'm saying, like like like everybody just not rocking with it. I just they just feel like I should do something else, but I've already invested time into this, and I I might as well take a chance on getting it heard because if it wasn't good enough to be heard, I wouldn't need to be, you know, getting interviews off of my music. The music that I created over 10 years ago. That should have been out because people people heard Goddess and was like, man, this should have been out. This should have man, y'all dropped the ball. Y'all should have just uh and I was looking like like Jesus. I was feeling like that the whole time. But thanks for telling me that we dropped the ball. So like I'm taking a chance. Like I like I said, I was going through the worst period of my life, entering contests, you know what I'm saying, like doing interviews, nobody knows I was battling depression, battling homelessness, battling, you know, not even being able to, you know, being able to afford child support to support my daughter. You know what I'm saying? I had the music, you know, but when nobody's trying to tap into it, everybody just, you know, doing what they want to do, you know, or they want to get in my inbox and try to tell me, hey, can you share and tag me as if I'm not doing the same thing? So like so we I know I know my stuff is great because you know you know, I I you know, I I I ain't I I know I'm not I know I'm not far fetched because it's a lot of people that's putting out horrible stuff and they come across my stuff and they act as if I got Grammy winning material and I've just be loving it, you know.

SPEAKER_05 16:04

So So when you hear all that and even going through everything you went through, how does that how does that keep you humble and not to forget where you came from?

SPEAKER_00 16:16

Like, like it's really a shocker. Like I was always humble. Like I'm I like like you know, I don't let stuff get to me because I'm not egotistical. So I'm just like, you tell me to I'm gonna just be like, all right, I'm gonna soak it up. But then I'ma just keep it humble because like words, words don't mean anything, the actions do. You know, actions mean more to me than words. So if your action showing it, I know I ain't got equipment. So but if you tell me something, I'ma just be like, okay. I'ma let it, I'm gonna let it resonate, but if your action's speaking louder than your words, I ain't got nothing else to say.

SPEAKER_05 16:52

So when people hear your music for the first time, what do you want them to grasp from what they hear from you?

SPEAKER_00 16:58

I just want them to I just want them to hear some authentic music. Just authentic music, you know. Some that's not repetitive, some that's, you know, just something authentic. There's something they can feel to. Like I got 35 songs now, and I know it's millions of songs out there, but I know you're gonna love at least one or two out of my 35.

SPEAKER_05 17:21

That's good. Because I I I listen to your your music and I I see the I see the passion that you you have. I see how you you know you you throw you throw your bars and your metaphors and you you concise and you concise with what you're doing. And uh, like you said, a lot of artists out here they're uh you know copying and you know, trying to, you know, do all do all other type of things. But I see how like you move in a way, like you, you kind of uh quiet with it and calculating. I mean he's calculating too. And but you but you putting out music that people want to hear. And I and I I commend you for that because a lot of artists are you know, it's it's okay to get the likes, it's okay to get, you know, this and that. But if if you can't I tell artists all the time, if you can't put out something that you like, then don't put it out because sometimes as I've learned even in doing this and having a station, we get the music, but it ain't what we think. It's what pretty much the listeners think. So if the if we might say, hey, I don't know, but if the listener's like, yo, that was that was some fire that he just he just spit, then hey, then you get then you're getting your your likes and your streams up. So I I just like to piggyback off the the part of how do you feel while you out here doing stuff that when people didn't support you the way that you needed to, now I want to come back and say, hey, can I work with you?

SPEAKER_00 18:57

Um, you know, um I I just I'm I like I just did, I just just laugh at it because like I I give genuine support from the get-go. And then if you don't want to support me, but then you want you want to come back when the motion gets good, nah, it's it don't work like this. Like, like my brother rap, he's in the whole group. I just told him another day, it's six of y'all. Y'all, all six can't share one real of mine, but you want me to share the real of all six of y'all. No, it don't work like that. It does not work like that. Show show me the same support you want me to show, because I share it. I don't care. It's it's just a share. Y'all act like shares is a million dollars. You know what I'm saying? Because I know it's shares that's worth a million dollars, but not going to comedian shares.

SPEAKER_05 19:48

You're right about that, man. I I even do the same thing, and I sometimes I'd be like, hey, we put out a lot of content, and sometimes you might get one or two likes, and you like, you know, do you get discouraged about it because of the likes, or do you, or do you just use it as motivation?

SPEAKER_00 20:06

No, you know what's so crazy? Before they even start saying, oh, you gotta have content, I was recording myself rapping to my phones and all of that. Like, you know what I'm saying? I just wasn't being creative with it. I was just in the car just recording myself because I was like, man, I need to get this out here. I'm putting it on Snapchat. I was not building a YouTube up or none of that. I was just building Snapchat up. But I was just like, but once uh once my daughter came in 2019, I was like, I if if I die today, I want her to be able to have something to fall back on. And that was I was like, okay, I need to put this music out because that is intellectual property. She'll be able to eat off of there forever. And once I get my ducks in the room, I'm gonna be able to have her children until I have more children. Children eat off of it. You know what I'm saying? I know, I know once I get once I get the ball rolling for real, it's it's over. I can't I'm not letting up. Like, you know, like I've been itching for this. So it it's nothing. My hunger then really I shift my focus on just getting out there because like I got great music to reach the masses. I know I do. And it's crazy because like they say the ones that don't just like or share the most is the ones that's great. So like you know what I'm saying? I I I love when real people tell me they listen to my music and they love my stuff, like you know what I'm saying? And I really do appreciate you because like you hit me back instantly, you know, to do an interview. Like, then you know I'm still waiting on interviews from months ago that people said they was gonna do. Like, so I ain't really mad at it. I just know people get busy, but you know, I just know the first go around that was all me because I I downloaded it at the wrong time and I was like, Oh my gosh, it was close to me at this time. I just got it on. So like I just really do appreciate you for even giving me this opportunity again. Cause like I I'm I'm not shying away from it, man. Cause like I'm stepping into my power because like it it's it's something that needs to be heard. A lot of my stuff needs to be heard, you know, and uh a lot of people gravitate to it. Cause it's all saying it, it's real. It's about my life. It ain't nothing. I I can't fabricate nothing. You know what I'm saying? I ain't fabricating nothing.

SPEAKER_05 22:29

Yeah, so I mean, like, uh my my whole thing is like I understand how how life is as well too. But sometimes you have to give people an opportunity. I'm I'm one of the ones like, hey, let's give them an opportunity. See what, see what, you know, what what you have. I mean a lot of people and there there's some artists that they might think they're up here or or might think they're above, whatever, and sometimes they might think, okay, well, sometimes the platforms are too small. But sometimes I look at like it doesn't matter what platform you're on because if the if we're pretty much helping y'all. Y'all the ones that's doing the work. So if we don't get y'all music out, then it it's pretty much not being heard. And sometimes like we have to realize that, you know, if the if the artist is hungry and they're serious about what they want to do, then you know, we gotta, you know, we gotta look out. I appreciate, like I said, you you got back with me. I was like, all right, bad, let's, let's, let's, let's make something happen. I I I listen to what you got. I see how you move. You you're not you're not in the you know, in the the clout chasing and name dropping, and you know, you you're just out here making good music. And uh and and so like to have you on the platform is an honor to me as well, because I've I've ran into a lot of artists. Some of them were supposed to show up, they didn't. The ones that were supposed to show up, they showed up and and it was something that helped me as well as you know, I learned from you y'all as well. Like so these interviews, they helped me. Uh, because I I look at it like I listen to the music, and sometimes we listen, we listen to the music and we like, oh, well, these artists don't have a story. And when you sit down and uh the reason why I pretty much do what I'm doing is because I believe that people need to hear the stories more than the songs. So when they hear the songs, then they understand the person. Then they can say, hey, I saw Bray and I I I heard his story. So yeah, I understand why he he raps like he does, why he why he hits these punch lines and and all that. And and when people understand that and look past the the persona, then I think like people would pretty much take the music more seriously than they are.

SPEAKER_00 24:53

Most definitely. I mean, because that's all I would I that's all I want. I want you to, you know, because that's what that's what it's all about. You gotta know the story. And of course, I'm not finna be with the gimmicks of clout chasing, cuz that's that's that's smile stuff. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like I go through BS every day. Then when I didn't when I didn't on Instagram and these communities, they trying to tell us to share their stuff 20 times a day, and they won't share your stuff once. That's a problem. Like, you know what I'm saying? If you don't see me as competition, you will get on here and share it. I don't care what is going on, because like I just shared a couple of your posts before, shared other people's posts, and you know, y'all are sharing like instantly. But I share one of these little Instagram community artists, they act like I gotta I gotta wait a whole month before I get a share. Like in the next night, even cool, because you know, they trying to promote you to be the hottest new thing, and I don't see what's going on, because you're you supposed if you're supposed to be the hottest little thing on Instagram, you're supposed to be way bigger than that. I'm like, damn, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 26:15

Yeah, I mean, I mean it it it's tough out here, man. Uh like everybody trying to eat. Some people like try to eat the wrong way. But like I I tell people all the time, even up here in the DMV, it's enough music that's being played that I should be able to share your music, you should be able to share mine. If I got a show and I see what you do, I should be like, hey man, look, let's do a show. I shouldn't be like, oh man, if I hit you at a show. I'm intimidated because you you dropping you dropping bombs and I and I and I'm and I'm I'm hitting people with uh water guns and stuff. So it's like, you know, I'm hitting people with water guns, you're getting people with grenades, they like, oh no, I don't I don't even want to get down like that. But it's like if you bring in something, people should be able to want to be a part. And a lot of people are just I I feel like after getting into this music thing, a lot of people are intimidated by what people can do. So it's like if if I can if I can gatekeep and hold you back, then I don't want you to be a part of what I'm doing. So I'ma just like, hey, I can have an opportunity in Atlanta, Arkansas, anyway, but I ain't gonna call you because this time might be taken off me. But you know, some people just like, hey, I just need an opportunity. And a a lot of it is it, like I said, it's sad that if you could just get the opportunity, then you can make you can make things happen, not just for you, but for everybody.

SPEAKER_00 27:44

Well, definitely. And that's and that's my mentality. Because do you know how many more talented artists it is than me? And I I I can bounce for that. But you know what I'm saying? Like, but you know, but just because they don't wanna, you know, they don't want to do it no more. You know, they just faded to the background, like the guy that was on Last Wheel. He don't want to do music no more. He wanted no more of the business, but he don't want to do music. But he he like he got songs that's way better than that. You know what I'm saying? And his mom loved the way he raped. So like when we did Last Wheel, like, and he came in with that, I was like, ooh, we, this is this is your personality. Like, you know, because he was inspired, we both was inspired by Eminem to come together and do that song. But, you know, I wanted to come with the regular, you know, lazy flow, like, you know, I'm not finna kill, I'm I'm gonna mention that I'm gonna kill her, but I'm not really gonna kill a woman because she don't want to be with me. I'm ready to let you go now. So, like, if you would have caught me in middle school or something, no? Nah, nah, you ready to go. Peace. I don't want no domestic violence. I don't want no I don't want no police involvement, none of that. I ain't got time for it. It's over with. I cannot do it. So yeah, like nah. But I I made a I made a regular, I made a regular man verse and he made like an Eminem inspired verse, and I love it because it blends so well. You know what I'm saying? So, and it was a kind of a joke because he had like long fingernails, and so when he said fuck it with fingernails, we was like, you're gonna mess somebody's stuff up. Man, so like, but but yeah, that's why I can't wait. I can't wait to do a video for last week. I I really I mean I'm I'm working with a guy out in New York. Shout out to Junk Beast Music. His name is Steve Kong. He he hit me up. Like I was, I I promise you, if he was on here, he'll tell you. I was sending him other people's music.

unknown 29:48

Right.

SPEAKER_00 29:49

And I sent him my music. And he said, well, hey, I think you got potential. I'm sending you other people's stuff, and you tell me I got potential. And he's been working with me ever since. Like, you know, he'll he'll do a real for me or anything I ask for. Cause like I'm trying to get cover, I'm trying to get real life graphics for my my music. Cause I just posted pictures and just released them. Like now I'm trying to just elevate everything so I can look more of a professional artist instead of just another Santa Claus band lab or just I just don't give a fuck. I'm trying to show that like I care about this crew. I care about hip I care about rap and hip hop and has it has it in its stake because like like you know, people people will, you know, praise the so-called real, but it's real people than others people that do music. And you know, like the the overpopulated genre, the the trap and drill stuff, it's cool. It's you know, I'm a fan of it. You know what I'm saying? My brother was rapping about the street life too, because he was actually in the street, but that's what took him away, the streets. So, like, you know, that I'm uh I think it's gonna be a new genre. It's gonna be called the auntie music. And that's exactly what they put me under. So if I'm gonna get that genre going, I'm I'm only for the aunts and aunties, because the young the YNs, they don't mess with it. I I was gonna be TikTok live putting my songs out just because it was slow, it wasn't what they used to. They were like, nah, gang, go back to sleep gang. This ain't it, gang. This ain't it. But then I played around my age group. They like, man, what was this at? Oh man, this, oh Jesus man, what who are you talking about? Something on there. I'm like, I I know. I mean, like, I know, but I'm humbly like, thank you, I appreciate it. I know I'm talking about something. It's just, you know, it ain't everybody don't pick it up. Everybody ain't gonna pick it up if they just think they're not thinking outside the box. They thinking in one type of box. And everybody really chasing one type of sound. They're not trying to open their horizon. That's why it's kind of a shakeup in an industry. Ain't nobody getting on, ain't nobody getting on the charts no more because everybody's down the same. You know, so you know, once some originality can come back, maybe maybe we can get back on the charts and dominate like we once was. We still a top genre, but charts means the charts means something.

SPEAKER_05 32:30

You know, like so with with everything, what would you give like advice to like any any artist that's that's trying to start out and they just want to make make good music, but you know, might feel like their music might not be for everybody.

SPEAKER_00 32:48

Okay. Well, I'm gonna just say it like this. I understand that everybody may not have the means to record in the studio, but please, if you get the money, go record in a real studio, because the phone is gonna damage you. I know a lot of people didn't got on from, you know, recording on their phone and whatnot, but like I said, I recorded Trill Talk in a real studio, and that was made over 10 years ago, 13 years ago. And it sounded like it was made in the studio yesterday. So, like, but if you got music, please put it out. I promise you, it it don't matter. Like, like you just put it out because you never knew you might catch an audience and you know, catch your catch your main, your 1,000 forever fans. That's what I've been saying. Your 1,000 forever fans will make sure you eat forever. But to make sure you gain more fans and you know, a million forever fans, million forever fans, even though that's like 4,000 and streaming and streaming money, that's cool because you know, it's every platform. It's different prices for different platforms. So, you know, that money adds up. If you can get a million people listeners on each platform, you are actually doing good each month in the royalties, you know. So, but the but the big thing is if you make music and you know it sounds great, don't second guess it, put it out. Like, you know, do a video for it, a real video, not just the real or a TikTok video. Just get just get it together. Like, cause I wish I wish we had somebody that was behind us, but I couldn't even trust nobody because Memphis, the Memphis music scene is super shady. Like, you know, they only I know it takes money to make money, but like we was going around people and they were just taking the money. They weren't trying to put us on no shows, and then if they was, they was saying, well, we gotta, we gotta get shows out of town and stuff like that. But I was trying to build the Memphis fan base first before we could get everything out of town. You know what I'm saying? And that was and that was it. We weren't doing enough local shows. And so it started out as a group, then it was me and another person. Each wound up wanting to be a comedian. He's a comedian now. And you know, I'm just pushing everything by myself. So I just like like I said, I'm doing this so I can leave something for my daughter to do. I I don't want my daughter to do music, but if she wind up doing music, hey, I can do nothing but support her. Because like, didn't nobody want to support me. My mama, if my mama was still alive, she'll be here supporting me. Like, hanging on. Because she I got a song that no child should listen to. But my mama was making every child, she, every baby step, listen to this song called I Wanna See You. And when I told them little kids would come up to me and say, Bray, Bray, I heard your song. I'm like, what's on? I mean, listen to you, bro. I wanna see you. Right. I'll tell you, who told y'all this? Yo, mama. Oh, Lord Jesus Christ. I wanna see you. Like, I got other songs on that CD. Like, you just like you just gonna play I Wanna See You. But that was one of her favorite songs that I did. And like, and it's crazy because like I had to win a uh contest to make the chorus. I really wish I remember what their other chorus was because we was like, oh no, we not gonna go with it. So like when and then when we first made the song, I wanna see you, like they was la like we had female friends that was laughing at us. So like when we but when we put it together, they were just like, oh okay, we see you, we see you. Like, so it it just it just be rewarding to have other people like come at us about their song. And that song was recorded, you know, like almost 15 years ago. So like like I just I just I just love the reception, but like all independent artists, if you want to just take it serious, just take it seriously. You know, make sure you get everything behind you, like an LLC and everything behind you as well, because they look at that too as serious artistry. Um if you're trying to get booked and per, you know, perform at these festivals, because uh, you know, they they looking at that, they looking along enough of that.

SPEAKER_05 37:31

So um so how is the the the music scene out in Memphis just for like from what your perspective would be?

SPEAKER_00 37:41

If you're not coming up out the streets, you ain't gonna get no attention. That's that's basically because it's like it's so is like when I say it's so many artists that is way talented, way more talented than me, that you know, that should be you know to the masses way before me and all of that stuff like that. But it's just something about being in Memphis, like more nobody support it unless somebody else supported. And then of course, like we haven't we got oh it's not a real war, but it's a war. So I'm yeah, so like you know, ain't nobody trying to talk about it, but you know, a wheel. But like I want to be able to be get my get myself in the game so I can be one of them labels that they can come to. Because like right now, we don't we don't really got no real pipeline for labor representation unless you go with one or the other.

SPEAKER_06 38:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 38:45

So like if I can be a pipeline to to artists that's actually gonna take it serious, that's actually gonna, you know, put their best foot forward, and it's that'll be rewarding to me than to take from another artist or charge an artist for a feature. If you're gonna be serious, and I'm I'm telling you, hey, just come and follow me. Because like I got producers that believe in me and everything, and I that's hard for independent artists to get producers to be behind you. You know what I'm saying? Because like Championship was made by Steve James. Steve Jams hates that beat, but when I heard it, it felt like a kid on Christmas. I was excited. Because I was like, man, it's now like an HBCU band made this beat. Right. I really got excited because like I was getting raised around my aunties and they was going to college. So of course it was aka's and you know, deltas, and you know, I'm seeing all these things, and they playing videotapes of they going to go perform and go do line dance and stuff like that. So, and battle of the bands was the biggest thing in the South at that time because who everybody wanted to know who really knew how to play the instruments, you know what I'm saying? So, like for me to hear championship and he didn't like it, I was like, Yeah, I gonna do my justice. And then like what really locked us in was uh he had a beat called 9-8, and it was one of the songs you play the greatest thing. And when I when I asked him for this song, he was like, man, I don't know how to charge for beats. And I said, charge me $100 because like long live Tebow. Tebow charged me $100 for an original beat and $150 for a sample. So I told him they adopt them prices. And he didn't want to charge me, so I still sent him $100. But when I recorded The Greatest Thing, everybody's reaction was like, oh man, that song is beautiful, man. Like, for real, I didn't know that was still going on because I've been in the battle trying to get into my daughter's life. Like before I became, before I even made a something, I was saying I want to be a father because I didn't get the experience that my father has, well, wasn't in my life up until I went to go visit him in federal prison. And no child should have to go without their father, but by child's mother is making it difficult, you know. So that's why I did what I had to do. I went to go put myself on child support so she wouldn't find it. So she wouldn't be like, oh, you're gonna be on child support. I didn't care for that. I want to just be there for my daughter. So, like, and when the when when I when I made the leads for The Greatest Thing, I cried because like I like, I didn't want to make another song about missing my daughter Steven. But I knew I I know it's me and out here who is not being able to be in their child's life because somebody, some the parent don't want them to be there through the reasons that's unknown. And then when you're following the law and you still can't be in the child's life, there's something really seriously wrong. So, you know, just keep your head held high. And, you know, after not, after making the greatest thing, me and Steve locked in, and we've been, we've been good ever since. He told me I ain't never gotta pay for another beat, and he sent me another beat. But he sent me a lot of beats. And but when Tebow passed, he sent me a beat for to dedicate towards Tebow. And like once he did that, I just knew he was serious because like I was telling people about Tebow. Like, I just wish he was able, I wish he was still here as well, because he was a closer young man, like for real. Like, and one of the last beats that I bought from him, he got a pin on my Instagram at Brake Misszy. It's him. Like, and everybody going crazy over that song. And like, if I could get that, if I could get that re-recorded and give me two female rappers from Memphis, I know who I want, but I don't want to say it. Cause I wanna I wanted to throw people out. Because I love doing features with females more than males, because if you believe it or not, the males are more crissier than the girls. I ain't gonna lie. So, like, when it comes to doing verses, if you you come better than them, they like, mm, but the girls, they like, okay. Like, you know, so I collab better with females than I do with males. Like, you know, like Bando Gang Troop, like, that's my guy. We we've been making songs together. Like, he he come how he comes, I come how I come, and I'm feeling like it'd be the perfect blend when we get on the song together. And that's why we got reason why together. But anybody else, like, like anybody else I used to work with, like, we it'll be easy, but you know, like if it's somebody that feels like, like you said, they not confident in themselves, they'll no. Cause like I remember I remember when we first started recording, we was recording in a dude house out in like the Southwind area. That's like the good area of Memphis before it started being bad. And he wanted to get on the song of ours. And we was like, okay, sure, cool. Then nobody, nobody from uh our side wanted to get on one of his songs until I heard a song that I really was interested in. And I was like, man, you should let me get on the remix. When I said that, you I wish I wish I could have recorded that man's face. That man's face looked like you ain't finna get on no song of mine. Cause like like his brother, his brother was in there recording music. I mean, was in there listening to us record music. And his brother was turned. When I seen that his brother was turned off of what we was recording, and he recorded music too, I knew we I knew we had something special then. Cause like he was trying to do that out of space music stuff, like, you know, and it wasn't working out for him. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, after that, after after I knew he wasn't gonna let us get on the feature because he stopped answering phone calls to let us record at his house. And phone calls, we texting him, man. We like, damn, man, we around the corner. We was at IHA one time and we was just trying to test him to see if he was gonna answer. And he did not answer. The last time he answered, he was telling us he was moving to Baltimore. Oh man, left. That's crazy. Yeah. Like, but you know, I don't know if I don't know if he rem he thinks I don't remember, but shout out to Don Lifted. Yeah, shout out to Don Lifted. I appreciate you. Like, you know, and then like I remember not even having the confidence to even push my music. Cause like, like in Memphis, like, like, like, uh, it's a dude named Sleepy Loco. He was like, man, I was in people's inboxes and all that stuff, man. Before we even, before I even put my stuff on digital, put before I had my stuff distributed through Tune Core, like, we had SoundCloud. If you wasn't a rapper and didn't have SoundCloud back then, you was not really trying to do it. That was the first thing anybody had distributing music with SoundCloud. So I was in people's sound, I was in people's inboxes telling them, hey, go to Santa Cloud, go to Reverb Nation, go to some other website where we had our music to go listen and just give me that honest opinion. Some did, some said, oh, forget it. You know what I'm saying? So like, like it's it's real, it's real scarce, man. You know, but I know if you get into people's face and you got a song that they can resonate with, you'll be able to do well. So I just know I'm I'm trying to just get more performance videos out there. Cause like I got I got one performance video on my YouTube, and that's almost three years old, and like somebody, well, I tried to self-record myself and then like the focus got messed up. So hopefully, well, I perform this Saturday, and like hopefully I can get that footage onto my YouTube as soon as possible because like it's basically gonna be in the neighborhood that I was sick raising in North Memphis. So like I'm I'm really excited for Saturday. And then I get to perform with somebody that I used to go to school with. So like I'm I'm real excited for Saturday.

SPEAKER_05 47:27

All right. So we about to come to come to the end, you know, or the interview, but I want you to, you know, do your shout outs to your team, your city, uh, your supporters, where can they find you at on social streaming platforms and your final message to your fans and upcoming artists? What to expect from you.

SPEAKER_00 47:52

Okay. All right. Well, first and foremost, I gotta give a shout out and honor to God, because like without him, there wouldn't be no us. So, like, even though I be cussing a lot, I do thank the Lord a lot. Yeah, you know, like yeah, I I look, I I don't know. I like ever since I've learned how to cuss, I just ain't cut it off. But I'm trying to clean it up, cause like, you know, like they said, well, like the CEO of Miami Mike said, he said, man, y'all worried about making a YouTube hit and no TV in the car. You know what I'm saying? So you gotta make that radio hit. So like the more I can try to make a radio hit, I'm gonna be trying to be more authentically everywhere. Shout out to Minifort Overall, you know, shout out to everybody in between. Shout out to Steve James, shout out to Walkhead, shout out to Ghost Child. These are my producers I'm working with. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to Monish Music, shout out to Death Moons. They sent me beats that's very phenomenal. I can't wait to work on them. Um shout out to every every last person that ever then shared the reel, reposted, commented, flame emojis, even though words get into the algorithm now, not flames. Just have to let y'all know that. Uh shout out to everybody who ever watched Goddess Thrill Talk Anniversary Welcome Championship. Them are all the official videos I have out. If you watch them, I really do appreciate you. And you can find me everywhere, everywhere at Brace Missy. At Brace Missy, except for on X, I'm Trio Talk on there. You can find me at Trial Talk on X, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, but you know, I'm my music is everywhere right now. Um shout out to Johns Beast music, shout out to Steve Khan, shout out to the greater New York area. You know, they they they loving, they loving, they loving it. Shout out to DJ Energetic. He he loves my music, my Memphis music. So he loves money motivated and goddess. So like anybody that played my music in between, like we break limits, uh, sunshine for your soul, in the No360, they they show constant support. In mine's music, he showed constant support. Uh the venue community that I'm that I'm in on Instagram, they they love trail talk. They they act like trail talk is they they real bull. So I just I just look I just love it. You know what I'm saying? So but anybody that got love for brace music, I really do appreciate you. You know what I'm saying? I can't even worry about the hate because I'm getting so much love and I just can't wait until y'all can hate some more by the love that I'm receiving from all the other platforms. But like I would never I can't never think that no platform is never too small nor too big. Because y'all in the DMV. I didn't even know y'all was in the DMV until I did my research because I was just happy y'all wanted to do an interview with me. Like, like that's how that's how excited I was about doing the interview. So like like I love getting on platform because like y'all don't have to have me amount. Like, and I see that everybody don't want to have a personality or tell their story, but if you trying to get people to tune in, you gotta tell something. You can't you can't just sit back and think that I put it out, they gonna listen. No, no. Yeah. Like, like I'm this my like my fourth or fifth interview, and I'm I'm I'm gonna be happy as as mud, ready to shout out, ready to shout out my uh Lyrical Lux FM on On The Breakfast Club, because they're my music. Every other platform you got going on with you, they gonna be like, man, you you they you they you they plug, ain't that? Yeah, because they were sending me for Yahweh. So I'm not I'm not finna never forget who decided to take a chance on me to play my music. I appreciate that more than anything. Just and then to get an interview, it's very lovely. I really do appreciate that. But like I said, y'all can find me at Brace Missy everywhere except on X, at Trill Talk on X. Everything else Brace Missy. And you know, you can just find Brace Missy everywhere. It's everywhere. You know, if you if you feel like you want to talk to me, hit me in the DMs. If you feel like it's garbage, you can tell me it's garbage. You feel like it's you feel like it's a vibe, you can tell me. It's I mean, I've been getting talked about my whole life. Okay, and ain't nothing I can't I can father.

SPEAKER_05 52:45

I agree.

SPEAKER_00 52:46

So uh Oh, let me give my last shout-out. I'm sorry. Shout out to y'all. I really do appreciate y'all for you know giving me this second chance to even make up my first uh opportunity of messing up because like I've been paying attention to y'all ever since I came across y'all platform, and y'all just been going back to back. Y'all been going back to back with with putting content out, getting people interviews, showing their faces, and you know, it's a lot of people that I know I wouldn't have came across if I wasn't attached to y'all platform. So, you know, shout out to y'all. Thank y'all for you know having me as a guest. And hopefully I can come back and do another interview.

SPEAKER_05 53:28

Of course, because uh usually my my whole thing is here. We don't just I just don't just do interviews. We whenever you you you want to drop some new music, you know, send it to me. It's gonna be pushed in rotation. But also come back and we'll we'll play it, let everybody hear it and you know, and and go from there. So we also doing music reviews for for new drops as well. So yeah, so we're doing we're doing some things over here, just trying to do stuff differently than than other people. So this ain't gonna be our for our last time, won't be my last time talking to you. So like, you know, when you got stuff you got coming out, shoot it to me, bring you back on the show, let you let you premiere your your EP, your single, whatever. We we do that as well, man. So you don't have to follow, you don't have to apologize to me about the the I just appreciate you be willing and open to come back and you know tell your story and you know and you know talk talk talk a little bit, you know. So I you know, I ain't one of those type of people. Like, you know, when you give a chance, you know, after after the second chance, if you don't, then then tell me that you don't you don't want the opportunity. And that's cool with a lot of other other podcasters out here that can give you the opportunity.

SPEAKER_00 54:46

So that was definitely good like man, that's why I was like, ah, like it wasn't really stressing like I'm about to.

SPEAKER_05 54:56

You ain't got stress, bro. You know, we good. I'm glad just had this moment to to talk to you and um looking forward to your music that the future music you have coming out. We you know, we're gonna pretty much talk about uh doing some shows up this way. So we're gonna we just working on some things with that, try to figure out what that looks like, and then then you know go from there. But yeah, man, I appreciate you. So and we're gonna keep pushing your music. Shout out to uh 107.3 oh man, 103.7 jams, DJT Nights for even having his platforms on Monday nights to showcase new artists' music. So we're gonna, you know, keep keep keep doing what we're doing on this side, and you keep doing what you're doing on your side, and we're gonna we're gonna keep making magic.

SPEAKER_00 55:51

All right, yes. As soon as I can, and I promise you, when I get that cut me off recorded, I'm gonna make sure we're gonna have to have a grand show for that one. Like, I don't know, but if I send you the I send you what I got recorded now, so you can yeah, so because it's me, it's me and the other guy that that's a comedian. So when I send you that, that's unreleased. So once I do the two females, oh we gotta have a good show. Gotta have a good now.

SPEAKER_05 56:19

Definitely looking forward to it, man.

SPEAKER_00 56:21

Oh yeah, most definitely. Yeah. So up until up until I can record something else, just I just hope everybody can enjoy the 35 songs that I get I do have. Because I do want to hurry up and record an EP. I wanna I wanna drop, if I do get it to record an EP, I want it to drop on my mama's birthday, which is October 31st. And then drop an album, beginning of the year, first day of the year, new year. Like, so that's what I'm that's what I'm trying to focus on to, you know, get back into the studio. Cause like my hunger coming back, and like I'm I'd rather just put the put my energy towards making making more classical music instead of uh crash out moments.

SPEAKER_05 57:05

Yeah, I feel you. All right, so this is your boy AD. Uh we've been talking to Brace Measy. Be on the lookout for what he has coming out. This is your boy again, AD, coming from Indie Pusher Podcast. And we're gonna sign out and remember to share and support other artists just as well as you want to be shared and supported as well. It doesn't take a long, it doesn't take that long to click a share button, like, collaboration, or whatever. You want the same thing in return. So give the same thing that you want. So this is your boy AD of with Brace Me's Eagle, and we signing out. One love. All right, bro.

SPEAKER_00 57:48

All right, man, I really appreciate it. I can't wait to see the final product so I can reshare and repost myself. All right, man.

SPEAKER_06 57:59

I guess you have a great one. Oh, you too, man. All right, all right.