Episode 16 | Cody Gilchrist

Today we have on Cody Gilchrist. We talk about ultimate burger condiments, his role as a father and pastor, and which sport is the hardest

Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:11

I gotta hold it up here the whole time?

SPEAKER_03 0:12

Yeah. I mean when you're talking, you have to hold it up there. We have stands, but they're for tables, not for So you need to get like the little bar. When we start couch talk, which is when we're gonna I'm just gonna start recording with buddies on couch talk. Yeah, on a couch. I knew this podcast was a mistake. The second that they suggested that you be on it, I knew instantly they suggested. Yeah, I didn't want this at all. Wow. You've been talking about it for months, dude. No, you begged a long time ago. I don't think I begged. No, you didn't. I think you whined.

SPEAKER_04 0:47

You know, let me back up in the let me back up. Let me back up. In the barbershop. Let me back up. Hey, I'm thinking about starting a podcast. I was like, oh, that'd be pretty cool. I've been wanting to do one at the church too. And you were like, well, you should come be on mine.

SPEAKER_03 0:59

Yeah, because I knew yours would fail.

SPEAKER_04 1:01

We didn't start one.

SPEAKER_03 1:03

Bingo failure. Wow. Um, this is this is wild. You started this. I didn't start anything. I was trying to have a legitimate conversation and you took a dig.

SPEAKER_04 1:14

I didn't take a dig. I just gave you a very suggestive eyebrow raise based on your video camera and couch talk.

SPEAKER_03 1:25

Okay, now I see where you're going. You're a bad person. You know we're recording right now, right? That's fine. It's still a valid statement.

SPEAKER_04 1:33

You're gonna get fired. Probably, for sure. This won't be the worst, though. Really? No, I took a student to watch Deadpool in theaters. And you didn't get fired? The pastor's kid.

SPEAKER_05 1:47

The pastor's son. Star is such a cool church. No, no, not this church, the last church. That's a slame church. That one was.

SPEAKER_03 1:54

That one was an awful church. I guess there was there was sin running rampant. Obviously, y'all are watching this. Probably no one.

SPEAKER_04 2:04

How many actual followers does it have?

SPEAKER_03 2:07

Garrett 65 followers. 300. Okay, okay. So we can clip you for anything, and that's 300 people that'll see it.

SPEAKER_04 2:18

Okay, that's fine. Yeah, I'm not saying anything else about that last church.

SPEAKER_03 2:34

How can I destroy this? People would come at you.

SPEAKER_04 2:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:41

You get some phone calls.

SPEAKER_04 2:43

Is that really how you felt about us? No, not that I felt about them, just things I found out after I left there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:50

Sin.

SPEAKER_04 2:51

Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Let's get it for sure. For sure. The church doesn't exist anymore. Well, so that should tell you.

SPEAKER_03 3:01

Sin will always find you out.

SPEAKER_04 3:03

Caitlin's like, what? Gone. God crazy. Oh. What kind of sin?

SPEAKER_05 3:10

Nah, we're stopping right now. Dang, bro. I thought we were gonna have some tea. Um you did have tea for a second.

SPEAKER_03 3:18

I so pickles.

SPEAKER_05 3:21

The pickles?

SPEAKER_03 3:22

Yeah. That's what you want to start with? Bro, you walked in here with a bag of pickles, and then I asked you a door. I just thought of this. I asked you what your meal of choice is at a diner.

unknown 3:36

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 3:38

And you said a bowl of pickles.

SPEAKER_04 3:40

No, I said grow chicken with eggs and a bowl of pickles.

SPEAKER_03 3:46

I didn't even know you served pickles in bowls.

SPEAKER_04 3:48

Yeah, you can get a side of pickles.

SPEAKER_03 3:50

Have you ever had a pickle? Have you ever seen a pickle on a bowl? You ever seen a pickle on a bowl? It's not like I've seen a pickle on a stick.

SPEAKER_04 3:55

It's not like a deal. I've seen a pickle on a stick. It's a large deal pickle in a bowl. It's a bowl of like pickled chips, like you'd get on a burger or on a salad or something. Only fried? No.

unknown 4:05

Ew.

SPEAKER_05 4:07

So apparently all three of you only eat fried pickles.

SPEAKER_03 4:10

I love fried pickles.

SPEAKER_04 4:11

That's so weird.

SPEAKER_03 4:12

I like pickles on sandwiches, on like a chick-filade.

SPEAKER_04 4:15

So what's wrong with just a regular pickle?

SPEAKER_03 4:17

It's too much.

SPEAKER_04 4:18

It's too much. What?

SPEAKER_03 4:20

So do you like mayonnaise on a burger? No. Okay. Do you like anything on a burger? Yeah. Like pickles.

SPEAKER_05 4:28

Cheese and pickles, please.

SPEAKER_04 4:30

Ketchup? Yeah. Ketchup, pickles, shredded lettuce, and cheese.

SPEAKER_03 4:35

So you like ketchup on a burger? Yeah. Would you eat a bowl of ketchup?

SPEAKER_04 4:38

I have eaten a bowl of ketchup. Would you like to eat a bowl of ketchup? No, I'll be clean.

SPEAKER_03 4:43

That's how I would put pickles. I'd put the pickles in the same category as ketchup.

SPEAKER_04 4:46

But that's a condiment. It's not pickles are pickles are a condiment.

SPEAKER_03 4:49

No, they're a vegetable. No, they're not. They used to be a vegetable.

SPEAKER_04 4:53

They're a pickled vegetable.

SPEAKER_03 4:54

But they're not a vegetable anymore.

SPEAKER_04 4:55

So you don't eat like pickled eggs?

SPEAKER_03 4:57

No, but you.

SPEAKER_04 4:58

Or pickled feet. Feet? Yeah, pig pigs feet. Pickled pigs feet.

SPEAKER_05 5:04

I don't eat the pigs. But that's a thing. Yeah, but you're saying it like I should.

SPEAKER_04 5:09

You said you don't eat pig mayonnaise. That's gross.

SPEAKER_03 5:13

Mayo. Yep. Yeah, very light, first of all. I'm a big light mayo guy. Light mayo. Keep the mayo light. But I would put pickles in the same category as condiments. I would say they should be. Like a varnish. That's a word that I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 5:34

It's like what is it? Um caviar. It's a varnish.

SPEAKER_03 5:39

Never had that. Wait, isn't caviar a squid? No, that's eggs. That's fit. What's uh that's uh calamari. Calamari. Fried calamari. Bang it. Brother.

SPEAKER_04 5:49

I mean, I I will eat calamari, but it's it's gotta be cooked right.

SPEAKER_03 5:54

Because it can be too chewy.

SPEAKER_04 5:55

It can be a rubber band. Uh seasoned rubber band.

SPEAKER_03 5:58

Yeah, I can't argue with that. That's actually valid. Um what is your favorite condiment? My favorite ketchup. Just like across the board on everything?

SPEAKER_04 6:07

I don't really do. I mean, I will eat ranch a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 6:09

Not a big ranch guy.

SPEAKER_04 6:11

I will not a big wings.

SPEAKER_03 6:14

You like wings?

SPEAKER_04 6:17

Honey barbecue kind of wings sometimes.

SPEAKER_03 6:20

So would you have ranch on that? No. Blue cheese? Nothing.

SPEAKER_04 6:24

Nothing. Just the I want the sauce of the wing. I if I have to so that's my whole statement with condiments. If I have to have the condiment on there in order to enjoy the ketchup with fries, I I do, but I don't have to have it.

SPEAKER_03 6:40

Right, but it makes it better. Even the best fry with ketchup tastes just a little bit better. Are they great without the ketchup? Yes, but the ketchup makes it just a little bit better.

SPEAKER_04 6:57

Sometimes. For me, it's a it's a moment kind of thing because it's like if I want to experience that moment with the ketchup. No, no, no. It's it's it's and I've got the dirty mind. No, I'm saying like if I want something sweet to go along with the savory, then yes, I will have ketchup. But if I'm just looking for something savory, like salty, then I won't have the ketchup. It's about the craving, not about the meal. Like I want I want my meal, my meal should be satisfying the craving I have, not just be something I'm shoveling down my throat.

SPEAKER_03 7:31

I actually I have a problem.

SPEAKER_04 7:34

Um we'll leave it to Caleb to laugh at that statement.

SPEAKER_03 7:39

I actually have a problem. So I can't just have savory or just have sweet.

SPEAKER_04 7:45

You want both?

SPEAKER_03 7:46

So yeah. At the same time. Either at the same time or like back to back. If I have like I don't really eat like just a bag of chips, but like say, say I'll have a sandwich and a bag of chips or like a handful of chips, right? For lunch. So I'll finish. So one, this is a very odd thing about me. If I'm having a sandwich and chips, my last bite of sandwich, I have to save enough chips for one last bite of chips. They go together. Same thing with a burger and fries. I think we talked about this. So it's the last bite has to go together.

SPEAKER_04 8:19

The last bite has to be the right bite for me.

SPEAKER_03 8:23

Right. Yours is right bite, mine has to be like a balanced bite. Yes. Okay, yeah, I get that. But see, I want the middle to be balanced. Then I have to have something sweet after. So, like, even if it's I have one MM or I have really one. So you need all three sweet, savory, and right. It has to all happen. Okay. And then, like, if if I just like we get done with this podcast and I grab grab a couple bites of chip, I'm gonna have to also have like a piece of candy.

SPEAKER_04 8:52

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 8:53

Does that make sense? Yeah, but the only thing I can eat by itself is sour stuff. Like I can sit down and pound a thing of sour skittles, and it I'm just content.

SPEAKER_04 9:02

Yeah, no. I mean, I I could definitely that would probably be me from a sweets standpoint.

SPEAKER_03 9:06

You just pound sweets, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 9:12

You smiled. No, I didn't. Yes, you did. Run it back. Yes, you did. No, you're looking at me, they can't see you smile. That's bull crap. Anyways, so for me, like I would more state that it's better to have like if I have a steak, for example, I'm I I don't put anything on my steak.

SPEAKER_03 9:36

I'm with you on that.

SPEAKER_04 9:36

No, I don't want a one, I don't want barbecue sauce, I don't want anything.

SPEAKER_03 9:40

But you season your steak.

SPEAKER_04 9:41

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Like butter or like garlic or salt and pepper, maybe a wine like kind of herb kind of thing.

SPEAKER_03 9:50

Have you ever done like a um you know like seasoning salt? Yeah, like a light seasoning salt on the that's pretty good.

SPEAKER_04 9:58

I wouldn't necessarily say I've done specifically that.

SPEAKER_03 10:01

I just for Bonnie doesn't like that sometimes, it's really good. Yeah. But but I agree. But only how you cook it.

SPEAKER_04 10:07

Yeah, I don't want to, I don't want to take away from the flavor of the steak by adding something else.

SPEAKER_03 10:12

Yeah, I think steak is just a very tough example because Well, wings.

SPEAKER_04 10:17

If I if I get wings, for example, and I get honey barbecue wings, I want to taste the honey barbecue, I don't want to cover them in ranch or blue cheese because then I'm not tasting the honey barbecue. There was no point in me getting honey barbecue on them if I'm gonna douse the wing in. Because that's a combination. But name one person that when they eat wings and they use ranch or blue cheese, they just barely dip their bull. Does he barely does he barely dip?

SPEAKER_03 10:43

They've never seen me with with within. I will call Barney down right now.

SPEAKER_04 10:47

I eat boneless or boned, they like dunk that thing and it's covered. And it's like, what is the point?

SPEAKER_03 10:52

No, it's not me. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 10:54

Well, maybe you're just that.

SPEAKER_03 10:56

I'm special.

SPEAKER_04 10:57

I mean, maybe you are.

SPEAKER_03 10:58

I am.

SPEAKER_04 10:59

I know, but I'm just saying, maybe you are.

SPEAKER_03 11:03

I hate you.

SPEAKER_04 11:04

No, you don't.

SPEAKER_03 11:04

Yes, I do. No, you don't. Malakai was right. You I just gotta you just fake it too. I just got an email. Bonnie's been going back and forth with Home Depot all day about a tear that's on that. That's like this big. This big that's on what? It's where Garrett's sitting. There's a little tear, and she was trying to get money back for it. And they're saying they're gonna organize a shipment so that we we can get a replacement cushion.

SPEAKER_04 11:34

Nice.

SPEAKER_03 11:35

But Bonnie doesn't. Bonnie wants money, not the put cushion.

SPEAKER_04 11:41

We want to keep the defective couch, but we wanna we want money. Just send us money. Send us 50 bucks and we're gonna.

SPEAKER_03 11:48

She cracks me out, dude.

SPEAKER_04 11:49

I'm over here like surfing Facebook. Or not surfing, but responding to Facebook Marketplace people.

SPEAKER_03 11:54

You need to make some sales? Yeah. I need to bring you those tires really bad.

SPEAKER_04 11:58

I sold $53,000 worth of stuff this last week. Or last two weeks. I know you'd be carrying cash around. I I sold $53,000 worth of stuff.

SPEAKER_03 12:15

What do you do when you sell? When you give someone that item, they give you what?

SPEAKER_04 12:19

But I don't get the money.

SPEAKER_03 12:20

Who does?

SPEAKER_04 12:21

The the dealership.

SPEAKER_03 12:23

Oh, I thought you were talking about your personal business.

SPEAKER_04 12:26

No, no, no, no. I if I mean not personal business. Personal business, I don't know. Personal, like any, yeah, any inventory-wise, personally, would be less probably less than like $5,000 worth of stuff at any given time. Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_03 12:41

I don't know how you do it. Dealing with Facebook Marketplace people, they're some of the worst people in the world. Oh, I have amazing patience. Yeah, but you're also between one of the Facebook. I couldn't. It's not no, I couldn't. I struggled with youth ministry dealing with the bull crap that I had to deal with.

SPEAKER_04 13:06

This would be to have a secondary camera that just looks at you guys. I literally I point Caleb always told me I'm Caleb one.

SPEAKER_03 13:15

Yeah, that's true. Caleb's literally always defensive about it. I just pointed at both of them. Garrett's never caused me a second of problem in his entire time. It's just Caleb. Caleb's never either, but then but he gets defensive for some reason. Yeah, no, only towards me. Because Caleb's Garrett was like, yeah, yeah, totally. We're the problem. Never been a problem.

SPEAKER_04 13:40

Caleb's like, so while we're on the podcast, would you like to just tell us who the problem is? If they're not, who is it?

SPEAKER_03 13:47

Malachi.

SPEAKER_05 13:50

Joey. So your whole team, pretty much. Pretty much the ones that aren't here. That's great. Um Chastin.

SPEAKER_04 14:00

Chastin, Micah. If the if they were here, would the statement be the same?

SPEAKER_03 14:04

Yes. Okay. So it wouldn't be. I look them dead in their face and be like, you were the problem.

SPEAKER_04 14:08

If they weren't here and it would be Yeah, it would not be them. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_03 14:11

Well, I mean, that's at least Let me think. Um just Micah Chastin. Question is not even cut this. No, Joey will forget to cut it. Joey probably won't even hear this because he'll get and then uh no, I think he just misses it completely. Oh, he doesn't even watch it back. I think he does. We'll find out. Because he one time in the intro.

SPEAKER_04 14:34

Joey, if you watch this back and you get to this point and you call me, I'll give you five bucks. There you go.

SPEAKER_05 14:41

That's pretty sick.

SPEAKER_04 14:42

Then you know if he made it to that. If I never give him five bucks, you don't he never watches it back. The last this was a couple episodes. But y'all can't tell him to watch the video.

SPEAKER_03 14:53

Dang snitches. We chillin'. Okay. Um this is like two or three episodes ago. He missed, and I talked crap about him, but I talked crap about him at the beginning of the episode. Okay. So I obviously he he heard that. So this is pretty, this is probably 15 minutes deep.

SPEAKER_04 15:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:07

Maybe 20 minutes deep. So if he hears it, he did a job.

SPEAKER_04 15:10

So for the sake of the podcast, y'all don't do like an intro or so.

SPEAKER_03 15:16

I'll record an intro after this.

SPEAKER_04 15:17

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 15:18

Yeah. So I I record, we just start talking.

SPEAKER_04 15:20

I'm not in the room.

SPEAKER_03 15:21

Well, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 15:24

I'm gonna have to go back and watch Devine what he says about me in the intro.

SPEAKER_03 15:30

So last time I had one of my friends on and I did the intro, one of my friends that I don't like. I said, Unfortunately, today we have on Logan Grant. Hey Logan. So so me. So you're unfortunately I had my friend on. We couldn't find anybody else. We couldn't find anybody else. Everybody else is like, like a mile down the road, so we just caught it. It's 10 o'clock. He decided to come over. He was bored. That's great. Oh and now you have to listen to us talk and ramble about condiments for the next 20 minutes. And how ranch shouldn't be ranch on pizza? Nope. Amen. No. Ranch on pizza? See, these are good dudes.

SPEAKER_04 16:18

Pineapple on pizza.

SPEAKER_03 16:19

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 16:20

No. No, pineapple's a fruit. Have you not been on pizza?

SPEAKER_03 16:25

Have you ever had pineapple on pizza?

SPEAKER_04 16:27

I have. I don't like pineapple. I will say that. Okay. I don't like pineapple and pineapple. But I'm not sure. It's very acidic. Once again, it's still mixing savory and sweet. It's you're mixing two different palettes.

SPEAKER_03 16:40

I like getting like pepperoni and pineapple. So you get spicy and sweet and they kind of offset, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_02 16:48

Do you do you?

SPEAKER_03 16:49

Do you like vegetables on your pizza?

SPEAKER_04 16:52

Um I don't think anyone I'll do like sauteed mushrooms or something like that. I don't think that but once again, that's a savory, huh? That's fungi.

SPEAKER_05 17:04

It's a vegetable.

SPEAKER_03 17:06

Mushrooms are not a vegetable. I'm fairly certain they are. Hey. Are mushrooms vegetables? You're on your iPad. He just whispered, are mushrooms vegetables.

SPEAKER_04 17:21

Hmm. But are they considered vegetables for the sake of culinary arts?

SPEAKER_03 17:28

Fungi.

SPEAKER_04 17:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 17:29

The kingdom of fungi, baby. Bro, we're getting into multiverse.

SPEAKER_03 17:34

The kingdom of fungi. That's crazy. I love how you said, but for the for culinary arts. Culinary arts. I know. That's a weird actual term. I know what it. Oh, guess what? Caleb had the other day. Sushi.

SPEAKER_04 17:52

Did you like it?

SPEAKER_03 17:53

Sushi's pretty good. No, he didn't have sushi for the first time. He had um Chinjuku. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 18:02

We went there.

SPEAKER_03 18:05

How close after church? How close are we now?

SPEAKER_04 18:09

From the well, from here. From work from work, I can be there in 12 minutes.

SPEAKER_03 18:13

From here. So that would be 16.

SPEAKER_04 18:17

Yeah. Okay. Ish.

SPEAKER_03 18:19

It depends on which way you go, really. It's amazing being close to anything.

SPEAKER_04 18:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:25

Because where we used to live.

SPEAKER_04 18:26

You're, I mean, you got everything right here.

SPEAKER_03 18:28

Yeah, it's great.

SPEAKER_04 18:29

Yeah. If you need to know his address now, and I'm sure. Whoa. Whoa.

SPEAKER_03 18:35

For all 65 people.

SPEAKER_04 18:37

All 65 people. Um but like the crazy part is people who do this kind of thing, like podcasts and stuff, they get random stuff delivered to their house. Like they can set up different like Amazon lists and stuff like that, and people will send them stuff to like talk about on the podcast. Right. And a guy and his wife that do it, I can't remember their names, but he said that he had people show up at his house and they live in the middle of nowhere on like 25 acres of land, and it's a very long driveway getting in. And they had this random car show up. The wife goes out thinking it's the food delivery, like they had ordered groceries in, and four people get out of the car, and it's people who follow them on Instagram or YouTube or wherever. And one of the members in the group, their uncle or something like that, is a UPS driver. And the UPS driver recognized the name when he dropped off the package, met them because he like he saw them outside when he dropped it off, and told his family about it. And the family drove up and decided they wanted to explore the compound. So they got out of the car and started walking around the property. I was like, oh heck no. That's I don't want to do that ever. Like, don't show up at my house.

SPEAKER_03 19:57

That's horrifying.

SPEAKER_04 19:59

I have, yeah, no.

SPEAKER_03 20:00

Fortunately, I will never be that famous. And I'm thankful for that.

SPEAKER_04 20:03

You never know.

SPEAKER_03 20:04

You might be able to do it. I do.

SPEAKER_04 20:05

Why is that? So, what happens if like one of these clips goes viral and then it leads people back to your podcast, and then the podcast blows up?

SPEAKER_03 20:16

We wouldn't really need to improve as a podcast if that's what happened because we got some work to do.

SPEAKER_04 20:21

Hey, you never know. Right?

SPEAKER_03 20:24

I think it's all about the hashtags that you use. Is that right? I think it has something to do with it. I mean, to is you just gotta hit the algorithm, right? Yeah. That's you gotta get in the groove.

SPEAKER_04 20:37

Yeah, I ended up using some kind of algorithm whenever I was doing whenever I was streaming, like back in COVID when I was streaming video games.

SPEAKER_03 20:43

That's another thing we want to start doing. We want to start streaming video like once a week. Um yeah, but like use it more as like a opportunity. We could like get people on, like, or if like me and you wanted to, it would be like recording a podcast, but we'd be streaming and then we'd post that to the channel. Yeah, let me know.

SPEAKER_04 20:59

I have the camera set up, the mic set up, all set up at the house, still so that's something we're thinking about adding to it.

SPEAKER_03 21:06

It's couch talk, that, and then the regular, like we're doing right now.

SPEAKER_04 21:09

Yeah, it's fun. You just use switch kick's the best option. Kick kick is the name of the company. They pay you K-I-K. No, K I K K. Do you remember that? K-I-K?

SPEAKER_03 21:21

Yeah, is a messaging app from way back in the day.

SPEAKER_04 21:25

Bro, I was way back in the day as AOL Messenger.

SPEAKER_03 21:28

Well, yeah, I had that too, but no, I don't remember Kick.

SPEAKER_04 21:31

K I K.

SPEAKER_03 21:32

It would be like when we were in high school.

SPEAKER_04 21:35

You're like five years younger than me.

SPEAKER_03 21:37

Man, you're right. You are so much older than me. Crazy. Five years. Five years, all right, five years is you're 29, right?

SPEAKER_04 21:45

Correct. Yeah, so I'm 34. So yeah, five years. Yeah, no, I don't remember KIK. So when I was in high school, I'm trying to think. When I was in high school, I had a Razor flip phone.

SPEAKER_00 22:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 22:04

I'll never forget because I broke it halfway through 11th grade year because my mom and I got in a fight and I got really mad and she walked out of the room and I opened it up and like it was on the phone with somebody and threw it and it buried in the wall like a knife would have. That's sick. Yeah, went over there. True to its name. Yeah, went over there, pulled it out, and it still worked.

SPEAKER_03 22:24

That's crazy. Yeah. So how many years have you been in youth ministry? 20. That's crazy. You're so old. So 14. Oh, it wasn't 20 years, my bad. No. 2010, 15. You've been in youth ministry since you were 15.

SPEAKER_04 22:39

Yeah, it could have been. Well, technically, I've been in ministry my whole life. My parents were children's pastors.

SPEAKER_03 22:44

That's crazy. And then you fooled around and did all the stuff that you used to do. That's crazy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 22:49

Oh, I was 100% the the bad PK. Oh, the PK. I lived up to that reputation for sure. Uh, I actually uh the pastor at the church that my parents served at, both of uh the head pastor had two sons and a daughter, and the two sons, like if I'm 34, one of them is 33 and one of them is 35 right now. Like right now. I'm smacked up in the middle. All three of us hung out all the time.

SPEAKER_03 23:18

So all the PKs in that church were causing issues.

SPEAKER_04 23:28

Um his youngest son was in prison for the second time by the time he turned 20 and spent three years in prison on a narcotics charge because he had uh like a kilo of cocaine in the back of his car when he went through a kilo. Like it was, I mean, it was a huge thing. They paid, I think it was like ten or fifteen thousand dollars in lawyer bills trying to get him out of all of it, and they couldn't get it reduced down enough. And then like yeah, and then I was associated with all of them. Oh, I had three friends, three really close friends that were dead before we got out of high school.

SPEAKER_03 24:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 24:10

Yeah, just stupid crap.

SPEAKER_03 24:13

That's what I'd of the guys I played baseball with, it was all alcohol related, but I had two of them dying. And then one year after one of them died in a motorcycle accident.

SPEAKER_04 24:25

Well, so Trinity High School, right over here, the um the bleachers on the um the visiting team are old school metal bleachers, and they've been redone since then because they were really old school back then. They had the long aisles that ran underneath them, and we would get under there and sell all kinds of stuff, all kinds of drugs. I mean, that's a paid half of the car that I bought. But you didn't do any of them. No, never had any drugs, just sold them. That's crazy. I had a liver disease that had past I have a liver disease, it's not really been like re-upped in the last five years or so because it's not something I really care about now. Um but I don't care about it because like one of the major things of it is I can't have like I can't drink alcohol. My liver enzymes are already elevated drastically. If I drink alcohol, then they elevate even more and it can cause like rapid liver failure, right? Or it can cause um uh severe alcohol poisoning with like the very first sip. Right. So I just don't drink, period. Um not because I don't want to, but alcoholic. Yeah, uh I I have that kind of personality. I I I genuinely think it was a gift from God giving me that uh because I would I would definitely be that guy that just drank anytime I wanted to, anytime I felt like it. Out of addiction, or like do you think you have an addictive personality or yeah, I think they're I don't necessarily think it's like one of those addictive personalities that it's the first thing if you do it one time and it's amazing, you're just never gonna stop it, kind of thing. But I can definitely see myself getting hooked on something and it being a struggle to get rid of it, not necessarily difficult or or like hard to the point of like therapy kind of getting rid of it, but it would be something that like I I would actually have to work every day to get rid of. And that's kind of the and I had the same conversation with a guy about golf the other day. Um, I absolutely love golf, and I was super good at golf back in high middle school, high school, and college. So if I like I'm playing right now like once a week, just as like a relaxation kind of thing, and but the more that I've am playing, I'm starting to get back to like a better ability. And because I'm getting back to a better ability, I can feel myself wanting to put more time into it, and I'm having to actually stop myself like nah one one time a week. That's it.

SPEAKER_03 27:08

Um it's very responsible of you.

SPEAKER_04 27:11

Well, I have three kids and a wife, I can afford golf more than once a week. So, all right.

SPEAKER_03 27:18

Let me ask a question.

SPEAKER_04 27:19

Okay, 25 minutes in. Question one.

SPEAKER_03 27:24

I this is not question one. It's not. You're right. Sorry. I asked about condiments. You did. You're correct. Um, so if you were a hoodlum. Okay, PKs. Mm-hmm. Why don't pastors get fired when their kids suck? Biblically.

SPEAKER_04 27:45

Um, man, that's a that's a hard question.

SPEAKER_03 27:48

Because it isn't the biblical expectation.

SPEAKER_04 27:50

Well, to to have your your home in order, uh, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 27:57

I'm not saying what is a comfortable answer. What's your thoughts on and uh what I would specify I would say 18 and under. Like kids 18 and under, meaning like they are still. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 28:09

It's still in your house.

SPEAKER_03 28:10

I'm not saying like they're they're they're 40 out doing some wild stuff, but they're still under your stewardship.

SPEAKER_04 28:16

Um I think it's a hard line. Like there's there needs to be like a hard line, or it's a hard line to find. Should be a hard line. Like it should be a hard line. Um because I think in essence it's a reflection of your ability to lead. I really do think that. Um I was actually listening to uh a sermon or a podcast, I can't remember which one it was, by Mark Driscoll. He was talking about four, like the four steps that the that Satan's using right now to um to win the war. I may be misparaphrasing that, but something like that. It's something along those lines. And one of the steps was the three-way church. And it was a three-way, the three-way church. Um, and it's the a church that leans three ways, it leans towards tolerance, it leans towards acceptance, and it leans towards inclusion. Um and and his statement was is we're seeing the outward expression of what has been actively uh evolving within the church for the better part of the last 20 years. Uh, because if you think about it, l in the 80s and 90s, there was a hard line. If you were a pastor, if you were an elder, if you were a deacon, this was the job, this was the this was the standards, this is what the requirements. If you didn't meet those, there's the door. Right. Um, not necessarily in like in a harsh way, but like, hey, we see the calling on your life, but we also see that that calling is getting in the way of your ability to lead at home. Right. Um, so we're gonna come beside of you and you're gonna take a sabbatical, a mandatory sabbatical, and in that sabbatical, like we're gonna do some family counseling with you, we're gonna do some marital counseling with you, we're gonna do some one-on-one counseling with you, and we're gonna put a mentor in your life that's gonna that's gonna hold you accountable.

SPEAKER_00 30:22

Right.

SPEAKER_04 30:24

You don't see that now.

SPEAKER_03 30:26

No.

SPEAKER_04 30:26

Um, I'm actually thankful, I'm very thankful for the the staff that I work with because of the fact that they um they ask the hard questions. Like um, one of the guys that I play golf with uh is one of our pastors. Uh he's getting into it, still kind of learning the whole thing. But every single time that we're on the course, in some way, shape, or form, we'll be cutting up and goofing off and doing all kinds of things, but there will be a time for the hard questions. Right in that four-hour window, it might be in the first two holes. And then after that, those hard questions are asked, and after we're finished with whatever, we will stop. Dude, you killed me. Oh scratch my eyes, yeah. Um, but uh, you know, we'll we'll finish up the questions and then you know we move on to goof off and have some fun, right? Or you know, we'll be in the middle of goofing off and having fun, and you know, a conversation will pop up, and that conversation will lead to deeper conversation, and then that deeper conversation the questions get asked. Yeah. Like, hey, how are you doing at home? Like, how are you and your wife? How are you doing as your father? Uh, how's your ministry looking? Like, are you are you going through the motions or are you actively leading?

SPEAKER_03 31:43

Right. Do you think there's I not to say that you you don't answer truthfully, but I I feel like there should be this accountability from a family standpoint as well. Like someone asking the question of the kids do you think that your dad is a better dad or pastor?

SPEAKER_05 32:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:10

Microphone.

SPEAKER_04 32:11

Yeah, I was picking up. Well, that's also why I talked a little louder when I said yeah. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:17

Um does that make sense? Because it's one thing for because and not even out of a lie, but just like thinking you're being a really good dad, and not just you. I'm talking like anyone across the ministry spectrum. Like thinking I am doing really good as as a as a husband and and and a father.

SPEAKER_04 32:36

Oh, I'm gonna be 100% honest with you and tell you that I think I'm doing a really crap job.

SPEAKER_03 32:40

On which one?

SPEAKER_04 32:41

Both.

SPEAKER_03 32:43

What about the pastor?

SPEAKER_04 32:45

Oh, there are definitely times that I feel like I'm struggling with.

SPEAKER_03 32:47

So you're just about at everything, right? For sure. Um, that's a pretty good place to be. From a humility standpoint, it's great. Well, I mean, I'm being honest, dude. Like, I'm I'm not prepared. I think your son likes you decently.

SPEAKER_04 32:58

He hates me. He loves you, actually. I don't know why. Absolutely loves you. I don't know why. I I called you this tonight to tell you I was gonna be 10 minutes late, dropping him off. And before I hit the call button, I had to respectfully and aggressively tell him not to speak. Because he saw your name pop up, and he went from just like chilling in the passenger seat, like just like completely numb to the fact that we were he had just got off the ice and he was tired and all that stuff, to like he glanced over because he saw me moving, saw your name and goes. And like he was getting prepared to talk to you because he was so excited about it.

SPEAKER_03 33:46

You know what I do every time. So every time I talk to him on the phone, at some point I would say about 80% of the time, solid. When when I talk to him, his son is somewhere around, and he will walk up. And if he realizes I'm on the phone, he'll say, Hey Tyler, and I don't remember where this started. It was a while ago. It's it's months.

SPEAKER_04 34:06

Oh, yeah, at least six months.

SPEAKER_03 34:08

Yeah, every time I hear his voice in here, I'll just hang up on the phone.

SPEAKER_04 34:11

Oh, instant don't he the crazy part is he knows it's coming. So as soon as the phone like lights up or or turns off the call, he is rolling. Like he loves it, cackling, laughing, to the point that he is he has gotten my eight-year-old and my two-year-old to come near the phone and to be like, hey guys, watch this, watch this, watch this. I'm gonna get Tyler to hang up, watch this, watch this. Hey Tyler. It just like goes crazy every time, and then they start laughing. It's hilarious every time.

SPEAKER_03 34:45

Yeah, and it's great. The other day I was talking to or were you talking to Bonnie?

SPEAKER_04 34:50

Yes, no, no, no. I called you, but and I was asking about you going to play golf. Yeah, yeah. And Bonnie was here, and then Aiden showed up and said something, and you just clicked the phone, and she was like, She got so much you can't hang up on him, and I was like, No, no, no, he likes it.

SPEAKER_03 35:06

And she's like, No one likes being hung up on. I was like, nah, he does, I promise. Then I had Cody explain because she was like, You can't just be hanging up on little kids. I was like, he's not that little, he's far away. He's coming in the e-script. No way, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 35:20

I think now is the time to retire. He oh dude, no, no, no. Um, full honesty, I actually about a year ago told my uh gave my pastor uh my resignation, but it was post it like it's predated to the day he no August, what is it? I think I did like August 15th, 2027 or 20 2028. And he was like, what is this? And I was like, I'm just letting you know that I quit on that day. And he was like, that's like four years from now. Why are you doing that? I said, that's the date my daughter comes into the youth to said, understandable, I accept your exignation. Because he was a youth pastor. Darrell was a youth pastor before he was a senior pastor, and uh, but he didn't have either of his kids, but he remembers it. But back to the conversation about like my thought process on failing as a as a dad or whatever, in in the church's set of that or the mindset of that is that um like vulnerability-wise, like for myself, I did fail like really bad as a father when Aiden was born. I was so consumed with uh 1 Timothy 5.8, where it talks about the man to be the provider. I was so consumed with being a good provider that I became a horrible husband and a horrible father. I don't remember my son's first words.

SPEAKER_02 36:53

Right.

SPEAKER_04 36:53

I don't remember him taking his first steps. Um, I have a video of both those things because I worked all the time and was never home. Right. At that point in time, I was working um four four 10-hour shifts at High Point University as a uh second shift uh campus police officer, and I was working uh three 10-hour shifts at golf gallery or golfsmith in Greensboro as a master club fitter, and then on top of that, I was working every Wednesday night and every Sunday morning as a youth pastor at Hope Church. I was working on average about 85 to 90 hours a week. Yeah, I I was, but I in like in years later, like um we had or three years after, or what was it? Aiden's 10, Sadie just turned it. So about two and a half years after we had Aiden, we had Sadie. And um Becca made a statement shortly after Avery was or Sadie was born, and she just said, Um, how do you want me to send you the videos? And I said, What are you talking about? She said, Well, I sent all the videos for Aiden through Facebook Messenger. Do you want me to send them just to your phone or through Snap through like Snapchat or through Messenger to what and I was like, What videos are you talking about? She was like, Well, you're never here, so you won't see her first steps or hear her first words or experience her first laugh. And I was like, and when she's when she made that statement, I I don't think she she didn't make it in sarcasm, she didn't make it to to be hurtful, but it was in extreme. Which is what hurts the most it was an extremely convicting moment because I was like, First of all, I didn't I worked all those hours, but all I was doing was punching a clock for the for the time and the and the money. Yeah, and it really wasn't that great of money, like looking back now. Um so it didn't really benefit us at all. Right.

SPEAKER_03 39:03

And then but it made you you were putting in think about it, you were working so hard physically and from a time perspective that you felt like you were fulfilling Timothy.

SPEAKER_04 39:13

Yeah, I think what you were supposed to do. Absolutely succeeding at being a good provider, right? And it her comment, even though it wasn't meant to hurt, was a hundred percent an eye-opener of yes, you're fulfilling that, but at the cost of your other responsibilities. Right. So I think being a man in general is a harder task. Uh Mike you canceled for this than a woman, not because of the fact that it's men have harder lives, but because the responsibility in itself is four or five plates of balance. Like you have to balance four or five things very well. Um, because if you don't, you're gonna let one of them crash, and if you let one of them crash, it's a domino effect. Right.

SPEAKER_02 40:02

So I hope you get canceled. Probably. I don't even know how you could get canceled. 65 people. True.

SPEAKER_03 40:14

You said it's not just bouncing off of early. Um, on that note, I'm done. This is stupid. I'm having fun. I'm ready for a nap.

SPEAKER_05 40:30

Bro.

SPEAKER_04 40:31

I didn't go into work until late this morning.

SPEAKER_03 40:33

Must be nice. Actually, I didn't work today.

SPEAKER_04 40:36

I felt like absolute crap, dude.

SPEAKER_03 40:38

Like sick?

SPEAKER_04 40:38

No, like I just had a migraine.

SPEAKER_03 40:40

Uh huh.

SPEAKER_04 40:40

It's all the pollen, everything is just like right there.

SPEAKER_03 40:43

Dude, we get over it. Um, we're getting Bryson new legs. And so we solid. We went, yeah, it's pretty sick. We went and got um they're solid, is what I said. No, these aren't actually aren't. They're not, they move? Sort of. So they're over there. Um I'll show you in a little bit. But they're um they they roll on legs, and they're like, hey, go grab those legs for me. They roll on the legs, actually aren't here. Those are the um.

SPEAKER_04 41:13

So we're not actually looking for legs.

SPEAKER_03 41:15

No, that's why it was confusing for you. The legs, well, they're they're having to re-cut a couple things. But basically, the what happens now is these like they're suction-based, they're silicone, but they roll onto his leg, right?

SPEAKER_04 41:28

Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 41:28

And then you if you pull from the top, like it doesn't come off. Okay. But you could you can roll it off. You just can't pull it off, which is cool, right?

SPEAKER_04 41:37

So does it have to have like a strap at the top to make sure it doesn't unroll itself?

SPEAKER_03 41:40

No, it just stays on. That's pretty cool. Yeah. Um, which is great. Uh it's gonna make how's he did he like him? So he likes the the sleeve, what I guess is what we'll call that. Um he didn't like the connection piece.

SPEAKER_04 41:56

But I think it was I think it didn't-clips into something, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 41:59

It clips into the actual leg.

SPEAKER_04 42:01

Oh, okay, I got you.

SPEAKER_03 42:02

But I think I don't I just don't think it fit the way it should have, because they're having to recut. So I think he'll like it better once. But they want us to wear these suction things, him to wear these suction things as much as possible. So we left him on him for probably four hours today.

SPEAKER_01 42:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 42:17

Like we took it off once to make sure that he wasn't having any irritation or anything like that. But the second time we were outside and it was kind of warmer, and blah blah blah. You came back in, bro. I slipped I rolled one of those things off. I'm not joking, a puddle of sweat at the bottom of it.

SPEAKER_04 42:32

I was like, uh see, now that's throw up. Like, I will throw up. Oh, dude, it was so bad. Bro, oh, it was nasty. That's Aiden's hockey gear, dude. It smells so bad. But speaking of hockey, dude.

SPEAKER_03 42:46

I wanted to stay off this topic so bad. I didn't want to, I didn't want to hear a word about that stupid puck.

SPEAKER_04 42:53

Bro, it's the Stanley Cubs.

unknown 42:55

You can't.

SPEAKER_03 42:56

I love hockey. I just don't like talking hockey with you because you think that it's just you have a superiority complex and you think that hockey is the only thing that exists.

SPEAKER_04 43:05

I don't. I I I've made that statement more.

SPEAKER_03 43:07

The only other sport you have respect for is football. And I don't even think you baseball?

SPEAKER_04 43:13

Football?

SPEAKER_03 43:14

Yeah. None soccer.

SPEAKER_04 43:16

I will watch football and no, no, no.

SPEAKER_03 43:18

I said respect, not not like no golf, soccer, baseball?

SPEAKER_04 43:24

Baseball a little bit, yeah. I don't really follow baseball.

SPEAKER_03 43:27

You have a respect for the talent that baseball players have. Yes, in comparison to like basketball.

SPEAKER_04 43:33

Correct.

SPEAKER_03 43:34

And football?

SPEAKER_04 43:36

All right, so let's do some lists.

SPEAKER_03 43:40

Football players are tough, but I this is not a toughness scale. We did have this argument one time.

SPEAKER_04 43:49

We did, but I mean, I think I think I first of all, I don't think you can compare apples to apples.

SPEAKER_03 43:56

I agree.

SPEAKER_04 43:56

I don't think you are. Uh I don't think if you compare Football players to basketball players to hockey players to baseball players, you none of them are going to be apples to apples because the body's working in different ways. However, when it comes on an aggressive scale, I think that I think there are certain there are certain sports that went out over others. When it comes to per precision, I think it comes to certain sports went out over others. I think endurance, certain sports went out over others. Like I think that's this metric you have to use. Like if you if you use the endurance scale. Do you have to have endurance to play baseball? No. Not really. Not at all. You're really just sprinting 40 yards. Maybe a pitcher. Maybe.

SPEAKER_03 44:46

And you can talk just the endurance of your arm. Right, which is endurance. It is. And it takes training and for sure. But that would be the only position that I and I wouldn't even make an argument, but they do require some endurance.

SPEAKER_04 44:57

Or or maybe the catcher. I would say the catcher.

SPEAKER_03 44:58

Up and down.

SPEAKER_04 44:59

Up and down, or constantly sitting in a squat. Let's just be honest.

SPEAKER_03 45:02

That's not enjoyable.

SPEAKER_04 45:04

No. While squats are my nightmare. But like when you talk about like an aggressive level, I think that football has it to a point.

SPEAKER_03 45:15

Football would be secondary to hockey.

SPEAKER_04 45:18

For sure. But that's what I'm saying. Like from aggressive, from aggression, people are like, oh, football players are so tough and they can just do all these things. And yes, like a wide receiver, for example, absolutely. That wide receiver, they're running down the field as hard as they can, their endurance is up, and they have to be pretty daggum tough because they know if they get that ball, there's a high high probability they're gonna get their they're just head knocked off.

SPEAKER_03 45:42

Right. And then if the ball doesn't get thrown to them, they have to run back to the line and do it again.

SPEAKER_04 45:47

Right. So I mean there's a level of, but I don't necessarily think that's toughness. I think that's mental fortitude. Like you're preparing, you're about like in the prepared in the trenches, like D-line, O-line. I mean, so so do you think sumo wrestlers are tough? Yeah, have you seen sumo's? I don't think they're tough. Have you ever worked? They're really good, they're really well trained in pushing people around, which is exactly what alignment does. They're really well trained in pushing people around.

SPEAKER_03 46:12

You're gonna get some hate for that.

SPEAKER_04 46:14

There this is the best example. Actually, I agree. This is the best example that I can say. Like they I know this is a Hollywood movie, I know it is, but it makes so much sense. They took on the movie The Replacements. Have you ever seen that with counterreeves? They took a Welsh soccer player, made him a kicker. Yeah, they took a SWAT team enforcer and made him a linebacker.

unknown 46:42

You're making this a movie, dude.

SPEAKER_04 46:44

It is a movie, but it's a movie that very much could be reality. No, it's not. They took a sumo wrestler and made him a lineman. Yeah. And he's 450 pounds and six foot seven. All right, I don't want to stand in front of him. Legrank sports. Yeah, I did that on purpose, by the way.

SPEAKER_03 47:03

Athlete.

SPEAKER_04 47:04

Huh? Just athletic. Just hockey.

SPEAKER_05 47:08

One.

SPEAKER_04 47:08

One. Two soccer. Athletic. Well, mmm. Football. Okay. I can wrestle like that. Football. Three, athletic. That's see, that's where you start. Because that you're wrapping everything together. Um. This is gonna be controversial, but I'm gonna say golf. I'm gonna say golf. They're training five to six days a week, heavyweights, they're running long distances for endurance because they're walking. Some of them are. Most of them are. Um Fitzpatrick, Sheckler, or yeah, Scheckler.

SPEAKER_03 47:49

The current ones, maybe.

SPEAKER_04 47:50

Yeah. Um uh day, no. Chambeau, Speeth, Fowler, all of those main guys. Tiger, Tiger main workout is no, I can't say that.

SPEAKER_03 48:02

You'll definitely get can't say wrecking vehicles.

SPEAKER_04 48:05

Wrecking vehicles and taking taking shots.

SPEAKER_03 48:08

And and and sleeping with women that aren't his wife.

SPEAKER_04 48:11

Yeah, you know, he's got an adult.

SPEAKER_03 48:14

The tiger special. Um, he's good at all of it. Okay. So after I don't know if I disagree, I don't know if I agree with the athlete. What's okay? What do you think is the least athletic sport? Like legitimate sport. Don't say like table tennis.

SPEAKER_04 48:29

No, those are pretty big athletes.

SPEAKER_03 48:30

There's some dogs, but um athletic.

SPEAKER_04 48:36

I I would think skill and ability definitely comes in, but I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say basketball. Okay, no, I don't athletic-wise, because yes, they're gonna have endurance because they have to run up and down the court, yes. But is there a like genuine reason for them to be bench pressing 300 pounds?

SPEAKER_03 48:58

No.

SPEAKER_04 48:58

Is there a reason for them to be doing like actually they shouldn't deadlifts?

SPEAKER_03 49:04

They shouldn't be lifting heavy because it messes up their shot. But it messes up the shot. Like your your shoulder placement can't be in the position that you need to.

SPEAKER_04 49:10

That's the whole point. Like, if you if you look at James right now, he's he's boasting about all like he was boasting on his Instagram a couple months ago of all these major like PRs that he's had.

SPEAKER_03 49:19

Can I talk about LeBron Reyes for a second? No one cares.

SPEAKER_04 49:23

I I 100% agree.

SPEAKER_03 49:24

I um he could which sport has the best hand eye coordination?

SPEAKER_04 49:28

Baseball.

SPEAKER_03 49:29

Over hockey. I would have accepted hockey there.

SPEAKER_04 49:33

I was talking about good hand eye coordination. I would say baseball because you're can you're you're consistently catching something or hitting something that's moving 100 miles an hour. Yeah, 80, 80 to 100 miles an hour.

SPEAKER_03 49:47

80 to 100, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 49:48

Hockey, the goalie in hockey has to have amazing hand eye coordination, but no different than a catcher.

SPEAKER_00 49:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 49:57

I mean, the the the puck coming at a goalie, I think the fastest slap shot ever recorded was like 114, I think.

SPEAKER_03 50:05

And that's ever.

SPEAKER_04 50:06

I think I might be off on that, but I'm fairly certain it was like somewhere in the 115, 120 range.

SPEAKER_03 50:12

Look it up. The fastest recorded hockey shot.

SPEAKER_04 50:17

Yeah, hockey slap shot. Well, I mean, yeah, hockey shot. There's nothing, it's no snapshot's gonna be that fast. Right. If it is, then whoever did it is wicked. Easy five hockey with. Tell me you don't play some hockey with that. Tell me you don't play some. 110. Okay, so I was off by five. Um, so I mean, yeah, the goalie, but the rest of the players, they're not catching pucks at that. Right.

SPEAKER_03 50:41

They're they've got to slow down.

SPEAKER_04 50:42

Yeah, I mean, the the average pass from a puck is like 65, 70. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 50:49

I was I was making this argument the other day because this guy was saying that anyone could hit a baseball.

SPEAKER_04 50:56

Anyone can hit a baseball thrown by an average Joe can hit a baseball thrown by an average Joe.

SPEAKER_03 51:02

I told them, I said, I am 10 years out of high school. And if you and they haven't picked up a bat, baseball bat ever. They've never played baseball. I said, I could strike you out 25 times straight, having not picked up, ever picked up a baseball. They played soccer, so like they played a sport, they understand being.

SPEAKER_04 51:25

Well, what position did you play?

SPEAKER_03 51:26

I was a pitcher. Okay, so well, that wasn't my main position, but I picked up. But once again, but I'm not throwing more than 70 at I I don't even know if I hit 70 at 29.

SPEAKER_04 51:35

But once again, all of these stats are gonna be based on pro-level comp, not average Joe comp. Right. And even though you've been out of baseball for 10 years, it was still a primary sport. So you wouldn't technically be considered average, just like I'm not considered average when it comes to golf.

SPEAKER_03 51:52

Right.

SPEAKER_04 51:52

Like the average golfer right now, I think in the United States, is the average is like 104. I'm above average. If you shoot under 104, sure. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 52:04

I should I shoot like 90 to 95.

SPEAKER_04 52:06

Yeah. So the average golfer in the United States is like 104, if memory serves correct. Um, so for the average golfer, hand eye coordination is obviously not a great I think.

SPEAKER_00 52:16

Right.

SPEAKER_04 52:17

But for a pro golfer, hand eye coordination is phenomenal because not only are they hitting a small ball, but they're hitting at the exact time, at the exact speed, at the right angle, and with the right amount of upswing or downswing consider can depending on what type of ball shape they want.

SPEAKER_03 52:33

So But I don't think uh I don't think a golf player could hit. I don't think that Bryson DeChambeau could hit a starting pitcher in the MLB. If you give him like a hundred reps, maybe, but I'm saying pick up a bat, go out there, and within the first 20 pitches, you have to you have to hit it. Like get a hit. Or not even get a hit, make make contact. Not make contact, make contact in fair play. In fair play. So not no pop-up, no pop-up, like no foul balls, no tips.

SPEAKER_04 53:05

Um, yeah, I don't I don't think he could.

SPEAKER_03 53:08

I know a football player couldn't.

SPEAKER_04 53:10

Well, yeah. But once again, football players don't train for agility.

SPEAKER_03 53:14

A basketball player couldn't.

SPEAKER_04 53:17

You should see a picture of or a video of um of Kevin Durant trying to but I yeah, but what once again that look at Charles Barkley in golf.

SPEAKER_03 53:27

Right. But he's still he can rip it. It looks weird. It looks weird.

SPEAKER_04 53:33

And he they actually for years, and he only recently got good at golf. Like for years, they would have him out to pro ams at like Pebble Beach and major competitions like that simply for the humor factor of people being able to watch his swing. And and they knew that, so they paid him to come out.

SPEAKER_03 53:50

That's fair. Like it was him, I wouldn't comment on if I was him, I wouldn't have gotten better.

SPEAKER_04 53:55

Oh, dude, it it was horrible, horrible to watch. Actually, for the longest time, one of the coaches that I that I went to for new golfers used Charles Barkley as like a an encouragement tactic. Like, hey, you're just now starting, but you're not that bad. That's crazy. So, but yeah.

SPEAKER_03 54:16

What I did say in that argument with that guy though was that I think a hockey player could step in and hit a baseball. Yeah, I because they're used to an object coming towards them, and while that object is moving, they have to hit it. Yeah, absolutely, but the concept of I have something in my hand. It's also a smaller target.

SPEAKER_04 54:37

Or like it's like a hockey puck is a smaller target.

SPEAKER_03 54:39

Right. But uh, there's something on the move coming towards me. I'm used to taking something in my hand and making contact with it. And not no other sport is doing that.

SPEAKER_04 54:47

Yeah, and not only that that is, but you also have to think that a hockey player is doing that at pres at the precision of a six by six box, like they're making a slap shot or a snapshot or something like that into a precision six by six box, which is the goal, versus a 250 feet yard.

SPEAKER_03 55:08

Yeah, but you have to put in the fact that you've got players out there that are that are moving and shifting based on what you're doing.

SPEAKER_04 55:18

So yeah, I think hockey would do it. I think I think golf might I I think there are certain ones. Like I I think that Brooks Capica could. I think that Scotty should be.

SPEAKER_03 55:30

If they had some baseball history, maybe. I just don't know. I mean, the average pitcher in the in the major league is just throwing 95 plus. Did you play baseball in high school? Mm-hmm. Not in high school. I played in middle school. Okay, I face 90. I face 96.

SPEAKER_04 55:46

I think the fastest pitch I ever faced was about 75.

SPEAKER_03 55:49

Yeah, I'm telling you get in those 90 ranges, dude.

SPEAKER_04 55:53

We have a kid in the youth group.

SPEAKER_03 55:55

It's insane.

SPEAKER_04 55:56

We have a kid in youth group right now that is seventh grade, just made varsity at his team for baseball, and he's the backup pitcher. Seventh grade, he's like five foot six, throwing 85 mile an hour basketball.

SPEAKER_03 56:10

Even that, stand in front of that. It's not.

SPEAKER_04 56:13

It's seventh grade.

SPEAKER_03 56:14

He's gonna be he's gonna be chilling. He's gonna make some money. Is he left-handed or right-handed? If he's left-handed, he will be in the major leagues. I'll put money on that right now.

SPEAKER_04 56:23

Based on Wednesday night, he was right-handed.

SPEAKER_03 56:30

He's going nowhere.

unknown 56:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 56:32

Alright, get a podcast. Yeah, brother. Great stuff. I'm taking a nap. Yeah. I'm out. Cat's been purring behind me all this whole time. We're done. I'm done. I'm talking about this cat. No, I'm done with podcasts. I'm ready for bed. I'm just chilling. I'm ready for bed.