Episode 26: The One Where We Build the Perfect Dating Application

Are dating apps actually helping — or just making dating harder?

In this episode of Unfiltered-ish, the one where we rethink dating apps, Natali, Carina, and Nikki dive into modern dating, first date expectations, and what really matters in a relationship.

What starts as a conversation about Bumble, Hinge, and online dating quickly turns into a deeper discussion about compatibility, red flags, and how women think about relationships in midlife.

They explore:

•  The reality of dating apps (Bumble, Hinge, Match, eHarmony) 
•  Why online dating can feel exhausting 
•  A creative alternative: building your own dating “application” 
•  The kinds of questions that actually reveal compatibility 
•  First date ideas and what makes a good first impression 
•  Relationship expectations, communication, and shared values 
•  Red flags, green flags, and subtle deal breakers 
•  Food habits, generosity, and the small moments that matter 

They also play with relationship scenarios and games like:

•  “Could you love someone if…” (deal breaker conversations) 
•  Conversation starters and real-life “pickup lines” 
•  How to initiate meaningful conversations without apps 

Along the way, the conversation gets funny, honest, and unexpectedly insightful about what women actually want in a partner — and why that’s not always easy to articulate.

If you’ve ever felt frustrated with dating apps, questioned your relationship standards, or wondered how to meet someone in a more authentic way, this episode offers a fresh, unfiltered perspective.

Unfiltered-ish is a women’s podcast about relationships, midlife, dating, personal growth, and the conversations we don’t always say out loud.

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Hi, I'm Natalie and I have never been on a dating app. Mm-mm.

SPEAKER_00 0:04

Amazing.

SPEAKER_01 0:05

Hi, I'm Karina, and I have also never been on a dating app. Okay, but that's a little bit less surprising, let's be honest.

SPEAKER_00 0:12

Um hi, I'm Nikki, and I have been on um oh I feel like listening mouth's gonna make me sound a little bit sad, but I basically I go on them on spurts. I'll go on and be like, I'm gonna try again, and then I just I do it and I hate it. But so I have done Bumble and Hinge, we're the most recent ones, but in the past I did, I was on match for a hot second, but match is is it's real depressing. Um I did what was the one? Shoot, you guys won't know at all. But there was one that was was supposed to be like, oh, it it was it had this really, really long quiz. It was they I think they called it like the scientific. I wonder if that one I was saying. Harmony? Maybe that was it. It was like a part-time job first just to fill out the initial information, and then um and there was also one called Bagel Coffee and Bagel, maybe bagel and locks and bagel, coffee makes bagel, something like that. I did that briefly. Um but you know what? I out of all of these, do you remember back before Facebook was even a thing, there was a website called Friendster? Do you remember that? I kind of remember that. It was so early in the social media days that like normal people would message you and you could assume that they were more normal people. It was like before the creepers found social media. And I actually went out with two guys who were complete strangers who messaged me on Friendster. And one of them was like, it was not gonna be a thing, and another one, I really I think I kind of messed that up. He was really nice, he was a doctor. He was like, We'll take you out on a sailboat, but I was you were nervous about the sailboat? I was in love with my boss at the time. No. That's too. So you never tried only farmers? I did not try only farmers because I think that I think that a farmer would be like, I don't really like to see this happening. I do like to get up early, so I guess we would have that in common.

SPEAKER_01 2:15

I also think he would be of your same political.

SPEAKER_00 2:18

You think a lot of liberal farmers out there? Absolutely. Yeah, 100%. So how much does it cost to be on a dating app? Um, I don't remember. I don't think it's crazy. I want to say like maybe 30 bucks a month. I might be making that up. I mean, I obviously am making that up. It's been a while. The last time I did it was a couple years ago when I uh dated Ginger Douche.

SPEAKER_01 2:42

Wait, so Natalie, yes, what like what what are you going to talk about?

SPEAKER_02 2:48

Okay, I saw this totally unhinged idea on social media and since doing it, she has like over 200 applications. But basically, she's a pickleball player and she put together like a dating recap of the year video, which was kind of hilarious. Like, I had you know 12 dates, you know, one of two of them went to a second date, you know, one went to a third date, the rest never, you know, made it to a second date, like one didn't even make it to the first, you know, it's a kind of like a really funny, clever dating raft of herself. And then somebody, I guess, under the comment of a YouTube video made made a comment like, Well, how can I, like, are you open to dating me? Like, how can I date you? And then she was like, hmm, this gives me an idea. I'm going to put together like a Google form application. And anybody who wants to date me can fill out this Google Form application. And she put together the most unhinged questions. Like, for instance, she found some famous poem or something or of somebody describing a woman, like with sun-kissed skin as if her cheeks were rose petals, and you know, whatever. She's like, so-and-so describes so-and-so like this. How would you describe me? You know, and so it's like tapping into their creativity, and then it was so I don't know, within like 48 hours of posting her application, she had over 200 um uh, you know, submissions, and she's decent looking, she's not like a model big top of funnel though. Yeah, like we'll see, she's a she's a professional pickleball player, right? But you're telling me you don't have top a funnel enough that if you let somebody know, hey, I put together an application, or you just like floated it out there, people wouldn't find it.

SPEAKER_01 4:35

Natalie, are you speaking about doing this for you and Nikki?

SPEAKER_02 4:39

No, I'm just saying this was an idea that so in the pickleball community it was floating around, right? Yeah, and it's like okay, you're not paying a dating app, you're not date, you know, and then you get to curate because the dating app, I imagine, I'm not sure, but they have the questions already set. Now you get to think like, what would be the questions you would put on your form? What would you put as your application questions?

SPEAKER_01 5:01

Safer than you two doing it is like someone like me doing it for you just want to do it for us. Hey, listen, she's better or not, you just want to do it.

SPEAKER_02 5:10

She's better at operations, she can probably handle it.

SPEAKER_01 5:12

I can lay out in a fantastic application. It's you're right, it's make it a top form not already incredibly busy. I'm not busy at all, not for this. Not at all. It's just one of those. Curricular activity is trying to sort through. She has her priority straight.

SPEAKER_02 5:33

Listen, this is very important. We might be able to outsource it to one of our she is board.

SPEAKER_00 5:39

Only talking about her sex life and me especially not having anything to do with that. I want to help anything.

SPEAKER_01 5:45

I want to help my good friends by taking a look at applications and red flagging, yellow flagging, and green flagging them. That just sounds like a really fun thing. How creative is that idea?

SPEAKER_02 5:57

It's a great idea. And I and I think it also requires a lot of effort on her part to think through what do I really want to, what's the filters I'm going to use on this application to help make a decision.

SPEAKER_01 6:07

So what was like, what would be, okay, let's pretend you're not doing this application, but what would be the questions you would ask if you had to?

SPEAKER_00 6:17

I don't know. I think I I would need to spend some time with it because you're not gonna get anything good out of a yes or no question, right? It's gotta be an essence question. Not an essay. Maybe one yes or no question, like are you married? Yeah, it's a good one. Um, also, you know, like what like me, we've talked about this. Political beliefs are important for me. Um, I would need to, for my person, is gonna be more on the liberal side. So I know, but I think you would want to ask open-ended questions, not just like what's your political relationship, yeah. What was what and why and how and what part? Yeah, that's a good point. Um, what is that? It looks like an Emerald City. Karina, is that an LDS church?

SPEAKER_01 7:01

I think it's the Wizard of Oz land. We are driving in case uh, we are driving down the we're driving down the road.

SPEAKER_00 7:08

Okay, really.

SPEAKER_01 7:08

So, what's like a real question that you're like, wow, I really would love to know this.

SPEAKER_02 7:14

Describe a dream or an ambition you have that you uh have not been pursuing, but you would like to. Oh, and why haven't you been pursuing it?

SPEAKER_00 7:25

Yeah, like I want to know we all do that.

SPEAKER_01 7:26

But I also I want the other opposite end of it because I I think you have to brag a little bit in these, and that's what is something you have accomplished in your life. What's your proudest, what are your top three proudest accomplishments in life? Oh yeah, that's cool.

SPEAKER_02 7:38

Yeah, I like that.

SPEAKER_00 7:39

I like that.

SPEAKER_02 7:41

Um what what are the most uh important things for a healthy relationship? Like I want to know what they all say communication. Well, yeah, they're not rolling. But that's okay, but then that that's not it. That's not what you want, right?

SPEAKER_00 7:55

Like, I don't know, aside from communic, don't say communication. Aside, and I don't I don't disagree, but that's one thing I remember from uh remember from the apps is what I liked about uh maybe it was both of them, but they had certain prompts you could answer certain questions. And there were things like what's the most important thing in a relationship? Communication. Literally every okay, okay, how about this?

SPEAKER_02 8:16

But but how about like if you wanted to make me laugh, what would you say to me? Who literally would you tell me?

SPEAKER_01 8:21

And the same thing about the whole communication thing. So, like the generic answer of communication is the problem, versus let's ask the question of like when I say this weird thing to you, how are you going to respond? Ooh, I like that. I don't like the weird thing to do. It's like when I tell you when I tell you, it's based interviewing. Yes. Because like, then you get actual answers and then you'll find out whether they communicate well or not.

SPEAKER_00 8:51

Are you at all concerned about um just going to Chat GPT or Claude or my thoughts?

SPEAKER_02 8:58

The minute there's an M-dash, the application's thrown out. I like an M-dash. Yeah. What about let's say we're at a restaurant and the food you you get the wrong meal delivered to you. What do you do? Ooh, that's good.

SPEAKER_01 9:13

Also, what do you order when you go to a restaurant?

SPEAKER_00 9:16

Also, do you have a problem with me trying the food on your plate? And I know some people do. But if you do, I feel like, ooh, it's gonna be a little rough, right? Because I want to sample all of the things. Are you going to let me take a taste of your food and your drink? And I'm not gonna take it over.

SPEAKER_01 9:31

I'm just I just want it to be a good thing. But maybe also I am gonna take it over. And are you gonna be okay with that?

SPEAKER_02 9:36

Ooh, also I wouldn't, but to know that you would, that's if we both ordered two meals and your meal ended up being way better than mine, and I wanted your meal, would you switch with me?

SPEAKER_01 9:46

No, that you're laughing, but let me tell you a story. Josh and I, young married, two years married in Paris. Uh-huh. I order, because I don't know what it is, foie gras. Oh gras, but you don't, huh? Um, I was about to throw up. I took one bite of it, and Josh had something totally different, and I looked at him and I was like, I cannot eat this. And he does not like it either, and put it, he just treated us meals. And I think that's a good one. That is a really sweet thing.

SPEAKER_00 10:19

That has been as much as the the you know the many problems with the X, but there were a couple of moments where like like I would I I like to be kind of adventurous, and every once in a while it's kind of bit me in bit me in the ass. And I get something and I go, I I don't think this will make for an entire lunch. And it would be like, okay, well, either like, well, let's split what I have, or because I mean when I get, or at least in the past, when I get hangry, it's it's not a safe situation for anybody around us. And he would he would come through. I remember we worked at uh we worked at a company the same, and you know, you would order in lunch, and I think mine was the only lunch that it just wasn't in the bag. Like it just and I was so I was already so hungry, and there was no food for me. And I remember him coming over and being like, Do you want the space that I ordered? And it really, I think it was probably one of the moments that I was like, Oh, I it's that's like we were talking about how there were a few moments where I was like, Oh, you can be.

SPEAKER_02 11:25

Isn't it amazing how those moments imprint on you?

SPEAKER_00 11:28

Yes, and the all the other minutes you spend all the other moments being like, Why can't you be that guy?

SPEAKER_01 11:34

Well, okay, like let's go back because we were thinking this is a funny thing, but I legit think it goes into the application. Yes. Because I actually think it is important because I always eat food off my husband's plate and he always eats food off of mine, and sometimes I do want his food.

SPEAKER_00 11:51

I I don't think that I would take my partner's meal, but I do want to try it. It sounds, it sounds so but if you needed his meal. If it if I if my like I said, if my meal didn't come, I think it would be wonderful. He would be like, hey, do you want to split what I have?

SPEAKER_02 12:09

Oh, do you want to know what would be a major flag for me? Ooh, what? How do we work make the capture this in an application? If you go and pick up food for yourself because you are hungry, and you do not come back with something for me. Ooh, no. That's terrible. Even if I said I was like not really hungry. I'll just catch a little something anyway. I mean, a side of rice.

SPEAKER_00 12:32

Well, I mean, I guess it's kind of like if I'm not hungry, I guess you could see the I because I do want I do want someone to believe me when I say something. Like if I said I'm not hungry, then you don't if I said this. Well then just be prepared. I'm gonna have some bites at your feet.

SPEAKER_02 12:47

But I do yeah, or if you just stop by and get a snack for yourself, you have to bring a snack for me.

SPEAKER_00 12:53

I like that. And even like you don't maybe you don't have to check at home. You can just assume that you know, I thought you might like this. And if not, we'll put it in the fridge and you don't have to eat it. But you know, I got this for me, I thought you would like something too.

SPEAKER_02 13:05

They say that they say a man's love is like through a stomach, but I think it's true for women too. So my I have a friend who ended up getting married to this guy, didn't end up working out, but she used to go out to eat with her family a lot, but they never ordered appetizers. And when she started dating this guy, she was like so like I think she fell in love when he was like, What appetizer do you want? She's like, Woo! We get appetizers! And she's like, just thought it was like the greatest thing ever, you know. Which let's face it, often the appetizer menu is the most exhorting exactly the most exciting part. I agree. Yes, okay. Um, somewhere on the application, do you like to cuddle and snuggle hard at night? And do you mind if I bite you every now and then?

SPEAKER_00 13:46

Biting during sex or outside of sex?

SPEAKER_02 13:48

Just like a urge to give them a little bite, like a little bit. But like an actual arch. No, imagine that's gonna hurt hard, but like don't you just like get the urge to like cute, no?

SPEAKER_00 14:00

That's that is adorable. I will say that I once did have a bite mark from a guy that I dated. I would never leave a bite mark. Oh, there was a m- and I didn't even realize that. I I think I was I was out with friends and I don't know, like my shifted or something, and I was like, oh yeah, you know, and uh it was like a set of teeth in my shoulder. Like a love mark? Like a love bite? I I get remember it? Yeah, I don't remember it being paint. No, it was like a like a full set of teeth. I know what you're saying. It's just if he had shown up, if like if he had gone missing, they would have been able to use the marks in my shoulder to identify his corpse.

SPEAKER_02 14:37

Um I would say my application would say must-love dogs. Oh, yeah like the movie.

SPEAKER_01 14:44

It would have to be, yeah. Is there a dog? Diane Lane. Diane Lane, John Cusack. Yeah. That's a great movie. I and in that one, the friend or the sister built her profile for her, and she doesn't realize that her profile has been.

SPEAKER_00 15:03

Now I get it. I get it, yes. They're just helping out, okay? I get it, and I do appreciate that. They wanted Diane Lane to be happy, but don't forget that several years later she had to move to Italy anyway. And in a totally different film, but Diane Lane's life follows that arc. I'm just gonna choose to believe that that is Diane's line, Diane Lane's actual life. Um okay, what's another thing you would put in there?

SPEAKER_02 15:31

Uh, do you like other girls' Instagram stories? I know, right? Yeah, I know. Absolutely. That's a hard pass. Yeah. Or what if a really attractive female messages you on Instagram? What do you do? But nobody's ever gonna, you can't really capture answers. Nobody's gonna tell the truth. Yeah, exactly. Oh, I would have nothing to do with it. I would delete the request without even opening it or reading it.

SPEAKER_01 16:00

I know that's why an honest answer would be great. You know, like I would I I'm I'm not dating anyone right now, so I would be curious to see what was going on exactly. Yeah. We just gave you guys the answers, by the way. If you see these applications, we're giving you the answers. Yes, if any of our 19 listeners are Natalie likes biting, apparently. No! And Nikki says no to biting.

SPEAKER_00 16:24

No, I did. I was bitten. Honestly, there was a little bit of like, almost a little bit of pride in it, because I didn't realize what it looked like. It truly was like a full set of teeth. Aren't you glad to know he was not a vampire? I yeah, I was. Um, but my friend was like, oh, I see. Because it went out, you know, but and there was a little bit of like, oh look at me. Look at me being the saucy one, the racy one. Because it's never I'm never the saucy, racy one. Look at me with a set of dental dental records in my shoulder.

SPEAKER_02 16:56

What about uh where describe your first date with me? Ooh, fun.

SPEAKER_01 17:04

Okay, okay. Well, like that. I would actually be curious. Uh, are like you a like what's your typical date? Is it going out to dinner? Is it dinner in a movie? Is it just a movie? Like, is it s staying at home? Like, do you that way you get a vibe? What would be your ideal first date? Do you guys have something in there? Dinner. I just want dinner. No, to me that's so basic. I like a basic first date. Yeah. I'll tell you why, because I don't know what I'm getting. And I don't want to be out at a dinner and a movie if I've decided at dinner that this is not for me.

SPEAKER_02 17:38

Oh, yeah, for sure. A dinner in a movie sounds like a horrible first date. I have no idea.

SPEAKER_00 17:44

That's what my husband's doing. Also, a movie is not a good thing because you're not even talking to me. Exactly. The movie is good after you've been out a couple of times. Yeah. But if you don't even know each other, you're not going to be able to do it. But like, what do you think, Natalie? Oh, like, is it about pickleball?

SPEAKER_02 18:00

No, like what if he's like really bad and then it's like, oh, pick a ball? Yeah. I mean, I just don't want to know it on the first day. Or like if he's a super competitive lady boner killer, if he's bad at it. Maybe I'm just thinking, like, I would love like hey, okay, so we went to Paloma Park, right? Yeah. We walked around.

SPEAKER_00 18:18

Beautiful.

SPEAKER_02 18:18

Hey, I'll meet you at Paloma Park. We're gonna go walk around, and maybe they brought a little beverage or made a little picnic. Or like that. You know, something like that. Something a little bit outdoorsy, a little bit activity.

SPEAKER_01 18:30

Who I think is perfect for you, Natalie. Yeah. Because you are an outdoorsy girl.

SPEAKER_00 18:34

He is terrible at pickleball, but he's there to be your biggest fan. I kind of love that. Oh heck yeah. That's even a bonus, I think. Okay, but he's like, he will never there is something that is physically wrong with him. No, I don't mean you know what I mean. But like he there's just something he his body just does not connect with his brain when it comes to pickleball. All kinds of other things wonderful, but for some reason he will never be good at pickleball, but he'll be your biggest fan. I'm okay with that. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 19:00

Okay, which brings me, I feel like there's gotta be some context for this particular conversation.

SPEAKER_00 19:06

We're in the car driving home from being free business women. We talk about relationships more than anything else. It's just amazing.

SPEAKER_01 19:18

We don't talk about metrics, we don't talk about like I love you ladies so much.

SPEAKER_02 19:25

Like I love you ladies for many reasons, but tonight um a really clear moment hit me. Do you want to hear it? Yes, please. When we were done with dinner and we were planning to go to the Royal Palms Resort after dinner, and I was like, So, what do you guys want to do right now? And you guys are like, Jammies!

SPEAKER_01 19:41

Let's go home and put on jammies. I'm like, thank you. It's because they have not heard the context, which is tonight was hot girl dinner. Oh, yeah. So we spent the day working at um filming B-roll, doing so many things. Yes, and then we all dressed up for no good reason at all and went to dinner. And that is my new favorite thing, but my favorite thing after was that we were like, let's go home and put on pajamas. Jamies. That's like in Demon Hunters, where it's like, couch, couch, couch, couch. It's like, these are my girls.

SPEAKER_00 20:16

Yes, like, do we look great? Yes. Do we have an awesome dinner? Yes. Are we ready to put on jammies? Yes.

SPEAKER_01 20:23

Yeah, so good. Anyway, so even okay, you guys keep talking about like my my new favorite game you guys have been playing is like The Deal Breaker. He's perfect and everything's wonderful.

SPEAKER_00 20:35

So that's Could You Love a Man? Yeah, which is one game, which I have to give credit to Miss Melody Manning. Um, she and I came up with that probably like 20 years ago. But I like the game that Natalie came up with as well, which is the come up. What would your pickup line be? Which I think is a game, but it's also an important exercise.

SPEAKER_02 20:53

It's a cognitive exercise, but yeah, okay, let's we can go over both games, but can you go over some examples of how you know, could you love a guy if like so the concept is could you love a man who's perfect in every way except for?

SPEAKER_00 21:07

And again, major deal breaker if for friend or not friend, if they go, but if there's a problem, then they're not perfect in every way. Play the fucking game. Anyway, so could you love a man who's perfect in every way except for, and then you describe something that is just a super weird quirk, and you have to explore all the and it helped it helps to remind people of all of the possibilities. Like, for example, I think it's comes a good one. Is something like could you love a man who's perfect for in every single way, except for every every single day he has to wear a holy Metallica t-shirt. And again, remember, he is he's so handsome, he's smart, he's funny, he he is makes good money. But remember, a holy Metallica t shirt. He makes a few years. Yes, he wears it to your wedding, he wears it to your mother. His funerals and he wears it too, like these are the things.

SPEAKER_01 22:03

If he's literally perfect in every other way, I I think you have to go with it.

SPEAKER_02 22:08

Exactly. I agree too. Could you love a man who is perfect in every way, except he is a close talker? I don't know if I can do that.

SPEAKER_00 22:16

A close talker to everyone. Even your friends are like, well, this is your due. Yeah. I would like to have perfect in everyone.

SPEAKER_02 22:24

No, because he's gonna be getting all close up to all the females and no way, no F and W. No, I don't like it.

SPEAKER_00 22:32

Yeah, if he makes my friends uncomfortable, it's probably like, oh, maybe something wrong. Nikki, the answer is no. Yeah, no. Natalie, it's no. No.

SPEAKER_01 22:39

I'm giving it no for you because I choose the bad for yourself.

SPEAKER_02 22:43

I don't want the close talker. Could you love a man who's perfect in every way, except he sang every sentence? No. Every sentence. He never talked normal.

SPEAKER_00 22:54

Everything was a sing song. I mean, I feel like you poor people get enough of that for me. Um, I do sing a lot of things.

SPEAKER_01 23:01

Well, like even today we're in the workplace and I don't even know what you were singing, but you were singing about us doing the things we were doing. Yeah. It was like uh And I'm delightful.

SPEAKER_00 23:12

But on a man, it would not be nearly as delightful. And not every single line.

SPEAKER_02 23:17

Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 23:18

Okay. So that's the Could You Love a Man. That's Could You Love a Man. That's a great game. Great fucking game. Great game. Okay. What's Melody, Melody Manning, Nay Olbrick.

SPEAKER_01 23:29

I'm gonna I'm gonna throw a shout out that Melanie Manning is also on my advisory council. She is. Melody is really good. She comes through.

SPEAKER_03 23:36

She comes through.

SPEAKER_01 23:36

Okay, so Natalie, Natalie's game. Let's talk about that.

SPEAKER_02 23:40

So to blind game. To give uh what do I call it? Backstory. Yes. So Nikki and I are waiting for Krina because she ditched us for some other friends. For hours. Yes. And so Nikki and I were like, we'll just go nearby and sit at a bar and wait for Krina. So we're sitting at a bar, and you know, uh Nikki, you haven't dated in a long time, but you would like to get with somebody, right? Yep. And so we're sitting at a bar, and there was a guy on one side on each side of us, right?

SPEAKER_00 24:09

I mean actually, okay, like, okay, you I guess it's been a couple years since Handsome Justin. But like, yeah, it just doesn't we just name dropped somebody. Name dropped it. Okay. Handsome Justin. He was so young. But so wonderful. Anyway, that's a whole episode in and of itself. Um, but yeah, so Natalie, you came up with this wonderful game. Yeah, so it's fun and exercise.

SPEAKER_02 24:35

Yeah, it's incredibly difficult, I think. So there were two guys sitting next to us, right? And we're just imagining. I mean, they both had wedding rings on, I think. And we're like, okay, so like if like let's imagine we're in the wild and you're trying to like strike up a conversation with the guy, which is like the worst thing you like to do, Nikki, right? And so we're like, okay, absolutely. Like you are the worst. And so, okay, so it's like, okay, if you were to strike up a conversation with this guy, did we name this game? What would the pickup line be, I guess? We didn't. Yeah, yeah, pick up the pickup line game. I don't know, that doesn't have a ring to it. Anyway, but it's basically like, what would be your opening line? What would you say? And so that's what so every time now there's a guy, we're like, what imagine what it would be.

SPEAKER_01 25:18

But you guys are so good at this game because I feel like every time you've played it, I've been really impressed. I was impressed with your comment today, Nikki, with the one guy at the bar.

SPEAKER_00 25:28

Yeah, yeah, like what about his position at the bar? Like how did you get the best spot? Okay, I think they need an example.

SPEAKER_02 25:36

Show you an example. Wait, let's give a caveat that we have never used any line again to any man. We are just practic we are just in our mind. For when in the future, if this should come up.

SPEAKER_00 25:46

Yes, we have never like done it. Because you know what, you have to practice for the say, you know, when when you're in the Navy SEALs and they they you have to get out of, maybe it's not Navy SEALs, I don't know. Somebody you have to they put you in the bottom of a pool and you have to get out of the whatever you're in in the bottom of the pool. Maybe that'll never happen, but they give you through practice just in case it ever does.

SPEAKER_02 26:09

But also, what a wonderful exercise if you are at a conference. If you see us a girl you want to like try to figure out how to talk to, you're at a meeting, right? It's like it's like networking skills you're building, social skills.

SPEAKER_01 26:19

It's not just like dating. Yeah, and that's the difference with this game because you you call it pickup lines, but it's it's it's more just initiating conversation. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 26:28

Yes, which I think is a great skill to have. And I like never good with small talk or initiating conversation. So anyway, we walk into this restaurant tonight. There's a guy sitting alone at the bar, and he's got the corner seat right when everybody walks in, and we are waiting for a table. Like, we're waiting for them to take us back to our table. So we get back to our table, and I'm like, okay, that guy, did you guys see him? Yes. What would be like, how would you start a conversation with him? And Nikki, go for it. I know, what did I even say? Oh, you said, Well, you've got the best seat in the house, don't you? Yes. Because you get to see everybody through. Yeah, you've got the best seat in the house. You get to see everything though. See anybody interesting? Yeah. Yeah. That was really good. That was pretty good.

unknown 27:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:09

I was like more normal, like, I've never been here before. What should I get? What's good here?

SPEAKER_00 27:13

That is a good one because that's always going to work at a restaurant, right? Right. And even if he's like, oh, I've never been here before, too, then you could be like, Oh, well, what brought you in here tonight? Like, what made you like they're just the first timer starter.

SPEAKER_01 27:27

And if he doesn't answer back, does that mean he's just not interested in talking at all? Or who knows?

SPEAKER_02 27:31

But at least it signals it signals it's not a good match for you. Like, go, you know what I mean? If they're not okay, so there was a guy, he was a dad, definitely, and he had on like one of those Taylor Swift bracelets at the bar, right?

SPEAKER_00 27:43

And so I was like, it was so by himself. And he didn't he did have a ring on, so you know, but like, right, but he's willing to go out with his like I love that. It was so confident in your masculinity abs a fucking lutley.

SPEAKER_02 27:55

So I was like, hey, well, I mean, obviously I didn't say this, but in my mind, it would be like, hey, how do I get one of those?

SPEAKER_00 28:01

I know.

SPEAKER_02 28:03

And what do I what do I have to accomplish to get one of those?

SPEAKER_00 28:05

That's a different kind of question.

SPEAKER_02 28:07

But oh whoa, I didn't mean it like that. I just meant like commenting on or like, hey, did you make that yourself?

SPEAKER_00 28:12

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 28:12

That'd be cute.

SPEAKER_01 28:13

What does this feel so like? Okay, so we just pulled up to the house. Oh yeah, we pulled up to the house, so I think it's the end of the house. Oh, is it the end of the episode? I think it's the end. Not the end of the episode. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:25

Um I mean, I think these are good.

SPEAKER_01 28:35

Also coming soon, applications and setting up uh profiles. If you wait, last question.

SPEAKER_02 28:43

If you created an application, Karina and Josh filled it out now, would you would he move on to the next round?

SPEAKER_01 28:51

I think so, because he knows me so well. So I think he would answer it exactly right. Okay. Right. He's gonna he's gonna tell me how to do that.

SPEAKER_02 28:59

What about back in the beginning?

SPEAKER_01 29:01

I don't think he would have. I don't think he would have won. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:07

Extremely lucky that I like Tom and three kids.

SPEAKER_01 29:18

That's okay.