Mini: Shield Final is locked in! Plus, multi-format international series in Mens cricket?!

Dizz and Trav get excited about the sporting prowess right now in South Australia! Adelaide 36ers and SACA through to respective finals.

We review the Sheffield Shield season and then dive into a chat about multi-format women's cricket - could we see this adopted in the mens game?

We pick 15 man squads to cover all three formats - join in the conversation via our socials @stillnotoutpod

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:02

Welcome back to Still Not Out Podcast. And it is a good week to be a podcast based in South Australia talking about sport. Because I tell you what, diz, our Adelaide 36ers have made it through to the grand final. The South Australians have moved through to the Sheffield Shield Final. And hey, where would you rather be than Adelaide right now? Jason Dizzy Gillespie, welcome back to your podcast.

SPEAKER_02 0:26

Ah, g'day Trav and hello to all our listeners and and viewers. Uh, first of all, how are you? I'm good.

SPEAKER_01 0:33

I'm much better.

SPEAKER_02 0:34

Feeling a bit better. You've you've been under the weather for a little bit, but you're much better now.

SPEAKER_01 0:38

Yeah, no, just for our listeners who um who are interested in our uh in our lives as well. I was in hospital last week, so um got a little got a little bowel issue called diverticulitis. Anyone who any any of our listeners who uh who suffer the same, it's quite a quite a common thing. But I I was um yeah, I was hospitalized for about four days in the end. So um bit of a bit of a rough week last week, but I'm back fired up.

SPEAKER_02 1:02

Um that's good, mate. No, I'm glad you're feeling uh you're on the mend, mate, and you're feeling good. But you're exactly right. Um just being a sports fan in South Australia is just amazing right now. The Adelaide 36ers, they were unbelievable. Game three against Southeast Melbourne Phoenix, who have played a hell of a season. They've been fantastic, uh, the Phoenix. Uh obviously Soviets led them well, and Clark's played some uh great minutes for them and done well. But look, the 36ers, the master stroke of DJ Vasilovich starting in that game three. Oh boy, we love it. He came in 27 points. I think Bryce got punched out 38, which is pretty standard for him. And um and Zyland Cheatham just punched out another 13, 14 rebounds. Just uh, you know, we know teams that get most rebounds inevitably win games of basketball. So um, you know, us manning those boards and uh then you know our big men doing doing their jobs as well. So it was it was absolutely fantastic.

SPEAKER_01 2:04

It was awesome, and I think that's the upside for the 36s. Everyone's been rule counting us counting us out because we're you know a bit of a bit one-dimensional, I've been saying just price cotton. But there's the upside, you've seen it. DJ Vasilievich can come into the starting lineup and dominate, which we all know that he's he's done for years anyway. And then you've got guys like Isaac Humphreys who haven't hit their straps. Like, who's to say that Isaac's not going to have some unbelievable game across the grand final series? So no, I'm so excited.

SPEAKER_02 2:32

Yeah, and Rikosevich as well coming off the bench has played some important minutes and and made some big plays. So look, everyone's just contributing. Flynn Cameron, he's contributing as well. So look, look, there's just a lot to like about the 36ers. Exciting there. Um, our Sheffield Shield side made another Shield final. How exciting's that! The boys are I am I am really optimistic about that. The reason I say that is I I felt um Victoria last week went quite defensive against South Australia. Um, maybe just thinking ahead to the shield final and all this stuff. But I I just yeah, just something tells me that uh South Australia are just peaking at the right time. And uh I think Victoria just going a little bit defensive. I think that can be their downfall. So fingers crossed.

SPEAKER_01 3:19

Well, I was lucky enough to bump into Wes Agar the other day, and uh it sounds like he is ready, ready to roll if called upon. So I think he might get a call into the SA squad with Doggett unlikely to play, and then you've and then you've got you know whether they decide to go. I was listening to Ryan Harris on SEN yesterday, um, talking about the potential of bringing in a Lloyd Pope, um, given that it goes to a five-day contest and that pitch, they think it's going to be the same, um, the same sort of conditions that they faced uh in this game. And if it is, then a spinner on day five could be quite important. So um interesting to see which way the selectors go. Whoever misses out would be so unlucky, and not just for South Australia as well, because you've got you know a Jordan Buckingham or a Henry Thornton who who may potentially be squeezed out would be so so unlucky if they were because they've been bowling beautifully as a unit. On the Victorian side, you're gonna have either Mitch Perry or Sam Elliott coming out of that side. Now, you and I have spoken very glowingly of Elliott all season. So with Fergus O'Neill coming back, he's almost shoot he's he's got to be a short player.

SPEAKER_02 4:29

Yeah, Fergus will play. Uh I think you're right. It is probably gonna be out of Mitch Perry and Sam Elliott. Um, because you'd expect Will Sutherland will play, Scotty Bowen will play, um Fergus will play. So look, tough selections for for Victoria as well. Um but Jeeves, it it just shows that the strength of I suppose Victorian cricket is showing the strength of South Australian cricket as well. Um, if you're talking about leaving out a couple of one or two of those guys that you mentioned from a South Australian perspective, um, look, it's a squad mentality. Players will be bitterly disappointed, make no mistake about that. But players know that even if they do miss out in that that big dance game, they've contributed strongly to you know to getting the team there. So um that's the squad mentality, but you can't all players, you know, the obviously the disappointment of not actually playing that final. Um that that that'll be tough, but um, but the squad mentality um you know comes first.

SPEAKER_01 5:29

And that's what I could sense when I was chatting to Wes the other day as well. He he he was just excited about the prospect of being there, you know, obviously would want to play, but um the the prospect of going over to Victoria Um and if they could get the job done, he was we were sort of thinking about how that how good that would look um flying back into Adelaide uh that the next day and and the uh the parade that would uh that would no doubt go on again. It would be iconic, and I know that you know Rhino was really steadfast at the start of the season that he didn't just want to be a one-hit wonder, he wanted to build a genuine legacy around this team, and they've got the opportunity to do that.

SPEAKER_02 6:09

Yeah, no, they they certainly do, and um, super excited for for each and every person in that South Australian squad, the support staff, everyone that works so hard behind the scenes, you know, everyone that works in the marketing department, just uh just everyone. Um, everyone that's in the office, uh, everyone puts so much time and energy into it, um, you know, to support the players and the coaches in in what they need to achieve. So really excited. Um you know, uh unfortunately I'd love to go, but I'm I'm actually off to uh Pakistan. No, devastating. I mean great for the US and Pakistan. It's great, great that we the that the PSL is kicking off and that, but uh, but ultimately uh it would have been nice to to head to uh Victoria and and watch South Australia hope hopefully go back to back.

SPEAKER_01 6:58

Yeah, I think so. And I'm just I'm just having a look at some of the just the season stats for the whole Sheffield Shield as well, as we as we take sort of a bit of a broader look at um at what happened this shield season. And there's been a little bit of coverage around um the batting numbers and the runs made uh across the competition. We're so used to having you know one, two or three dominant players who are scoring, you know, 800 to 1,000 runs and uh and more. But in the end, it's worked out that Peter Hanscomb is the top run scorer, 688 runs, averaging less than 40. You know, you've spoken a lot about the pitch conditions here in uh Australia in the last few seasons and being a bowler, bowling dominated game. But do you think there's place for a review within Cricket Australia around how they set that up for seasons moving forward? Because we need batters in the shield, averaging 45-50 runs and putting pressure on the test side.

SPEAKER_02 7:52

Yeah, there needs to be a review. I think that the challenge is, you know, I I actually really feel for the curators here, they're trying to find that balance between bat and ball. Um what they that in an ideal world, they'd love the surfaces to take to deteriorate, take some spin, but I think these drop-in pitches in in some of the states make that a little bit harder. Um, I think the states that have the full square, um, I I think there's less excuse there. But um, but certainly the drop-in pitches are you know that I I still think um they're learning um how best to prepare them. Um but that there's no doubt that uh seam bowling um it conditions of favoring seam bowling. I mean, there's well, four guys in the top 10, Trav, uh top 10 wicket takers averaging sub 20 runs in wicket. Now that that just says to me it's too far skewed in favor of uh bowlers. Um also um the fact that no batter has hit has hit 700 runs in a full Sheffield Shield season speaks volumes as well. Um you know, I think um you know the the highest average, I think, is Jake Weatherald uh in shield cricket this season. He averages 40. Um 39, Peter Hanscom about 38 or something like that. Um look, they're not bad numbers by any stretch. I actually think they're very good numbers considering the surfaces that um these batters are uh are playing on. So it's kind of it's inflating the the I suppose that the numbers of the of the seam bowlers um and it's it's making batting quite a challenge. See, Sam Constance averaged 33, just over 600 runs.

SPEAKER_01 9:36

And he pretty much scored 33 every every inning.

SPEAKER_02 9:39

I know, and and he's done all the hard work each and every time. So we know he can play, right? We know Sam Constance can play. Uh, there's no question about that. He's doing all the hard work there. He's just got to find a way to convert. If he converted two of those 10 good starts or 12 good starts into a significant score, he's probably averaged 45 to 50 this season instead of 33. And there would be no question that he'd be in the Australian side. So that's just a that's just a learning for a young player. And let's let's remember, he's 20 years old. You know, he's got the upside of him is immense, and you know, looking forward to seeing him continue to progress. Um, but I just think we all need to take a breath and have a little bit of patience, particularly with our young players and in particular our young batters. I'm actually a little bit more ruthless with our young bowlers. I'm challenging them to be better and to be more ruthless and more disciplined because they've got conditions in their favour, which sometimes can create pressure in itself because you're almost expected to take wickets. You're almost expected to do the job. So um, so for me, I think we just need overall, we just need to take a breath in Australian cricket. We we're always heartback, we we, you know, we always look at these players that have averaged 50 plus or you know, taken 400 test wickets and um, you know, scored 10,000 runs, go, why can't we have more players doing that? But you know, these are outliers, these are the absolute legends of the game. We just need to take a breath a little bit. Um, allow these young players to just learn, make their mistakes, develop, learn from those mistakes, and get better. And uh we'll we'll be fine. Um, but your point about the surfaces is absolutely right. Um, we need to get that right balance between bat and ball. Another little interesting one that I saw out of all those numbers, the batting and bowling numbers, is that Corey Roccacioli is again shown for probably about the fourth summer in a row that he is the premier spinner in Australia at domestic level. Look, we've got Nathan Lyon, obviously, there's the GOAT in test cricket. He's been a gun for a long, long time, no question. Um, I'll put Nathan here. He doesn't play domestic cricket, so that's fine. Adam Zampa is an elite white ball cricketer for Australia. But why Corey Roccacioli isn't closer to that Australian test side uh is absolutely beyond me. Um he has done it over and over and over again. Um and for me, he is the replacement for uh Nathan Lyon. Uh, if Nathan Lyon's injured or unavailable. I know Todd Murphy got that opportunity and really pleased for Todd, fine young bowler. Um, but I think Roccacioli should at least be in that conversation.

SPEAKER_01 12:26

Yeah, you've been consistent with that since even before the Ashes series. So, and um yeah, I think I think the actual decorus for Roccacioli is building as well. There's you see a number of people sort of calling for that, uh, just given his height and his uh the bounce that he's able to extract from your wickets here in Australia, particularly. So, hey, look, it's gonna be an interesting call when it does come up. I reckon Gaz probably thinks he's got another five years left, but um he's had a couple of injuries now, so it does feel for an outsider, it does feel like he's uh he's sort of heading towards the the back end of his career, and age does does come into account at some point. Now, did I set you some homework? I also did the homework myself. I found it really hard. So we spoke earlier in the season, and I highlighted it with um one of our videos on social media during the week, but around the success of the multi-format series in the women's game and how we love it, and we think that it could play a role in men's cricket. Now, your point was to um bring it in for some series for Australia against the lower ranked nations. Um, so you you know, your Bangladesh's, or maybe you get to play that test that has been long tailored with Afghanistan or Ireland and having the ability to fit all three formats into a you know three-week tour, um, take one squad and be able to maximize this. Talk a bit about why that why you think that would work so well in men's game.

SPEAKER_02 14:24

I just think I think as much as anything, it'd create great discussion and uh strategically um it'd create um debates on all that, but I think selectors, coaches, captains would have to be really strategic in identifying their needs for the multi-format and just having one squad to pick from um to play all formats. I mean, look, it's never gonna happen, but it's just a fun exercise to try, isn't it, Trap? And it it creates discussion, it creates debate. Um, and and I I think going forward, and while while I said it would never happen, but going forward, it might be a way to just create a bars and interest um in series that probably don't get the the, I suppose, the accolades or the uh or the eyes on them that uh that a National series or an or India versus Australia series would generate, the interest levels there. So it might be that some of the uh nations that don't get to play Australia very often, um, the likes of Bangladesh, Zimbabwe, Afghanistan, Ireland, it might just create a different dimension to that particular series that would go for maybe three weeks or something along those lines, either two or three weeks. You know, if you have a test, a few one day and a few T20s, that could almost be done in two weeks. So um, because we're we're always talking about the lack of windows and opportunities to fit um international cricket in. Is this something that the men's game could consider? And I suppose that's the question you and I have have talked about and debated about. Um, so yeah, just this little exercise is a little bit of fun, um, create a little bit of debate, and hopefully a few of our listeners can uh listen in and give us some feedback on what they think. And um, you know, I'm sure no one will agree with our our teams, but that's okay. Um that's what it's all about. It's about just you know have having some thoughts and ideas and uh bouncing them around.

SPEAKER_01 16:30

That's right. So let's um I'm I'm gonna because you're the away team, I'm the I'm the I'm the host of this uh this Zoom call. So you're the away, you're the away team. I'm gonna give you give you right of way and to choose whether you reveal your side first or I reveal my side first. And just just for um a little bit of competitive balance, what I actually think we could do, which has been talked about a little bit in Test cricket, um, but what I actually think we could do in this series as a as a way to um, I suppose give it a trial run, is have the away team automatically win the toss. So no toss. The automatic, the automatic uh situation in these series, particularly when you've got Australia against Ireland, hey, give Ireland a little bit of a uh a leg up, I suppose, but they can actually choose whether to battle bowl for every single match on the tour as the as the away team. Just love that. Yeah, love that. So um so let's um let's suggest that we are picking for Australia, Bangladesh, and it's a multi-format uh tour. So how many is it? Is it is it is it one test? So one test which is worth four points on the table, and then uh three ODIs and three T20s, which are worth two points on the table. Okay. All right, so you pick your squad or and um we'll go from there.

SPEAKER_02 17:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 17:49

Maybe fire away with your full squad, and then we'll and then I'll fire away with my full squad and we'll and then we'll debate the the differences afterwards.

SPEAKER_02 17:57

Okay, so I've I'm not I know you you might break yours down a little bit differently. I'm just gonna name the squad and then we'll we'll go through. So my squad is Head, Weatherall, Renshaw, Smith, Inglis, Carey, Webster, Green, Stark, Lion, Hazelwood, Zampa, Ellis, David, Cummins. Yeah, so that's my that's my squad. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:33

Beautiful. All right, so I'll I'll give you mine. Um I have broken it down a little bit differently, which uh we'll talk about once we're once we're finished. So um my multiple format players, uh Steve Smith, Travis Head, Alex Carey, Bo Webster, Pat Cummins, Josh Hazelwood, and Matt Renshaw, and Nathan McSweeney, actually. I have uh thrown him into a white ball team as well. Um so McSweeney comes in. Uh, and then my test only players are Curtis Patterson, uh Mitch Stark, and Nathan Lyon. And then my white ball only players are Nathan Ellis, Mitch Marsh, Cameron Green, and Adam Zampa. So like it, like it. So that means we have we've got a couple of differences there. The first one I want to discuss is you've included Weatherald and Renshaw in the squad. Now I felt like I could only pick one of those guys. I went with Renshaw purely because I felt like he was starting to become an all-format player for Australia. Uh, you you you want to back in Jake Weatherall, you think that he's formed a good partnership with Travis Head.

SPEAKER_02 19:45

Yes, I I think give him a crack. Um, you know, so I've I've got them both in my squad. Um and the reason is I I think Weatherall's game can transfer into the white ball. I know he hasn't played much for he didn't play for the Hurricanes this year and he didn't play white ball cricket for Tassie, but we've seen how devastating he can be in white ball cricket. And I I just think in the multi-format, you can only um you want to try and get as many players playing, potentially be able to play multiple formats as you can. It's very hard unless they're absolutely elite in uh one format. Um, you know, so I've only got there's only I've only got a couple of players that would only play in one format. So um, so and I'll go through them in a bit, but but whether Order Renshaw potentially would play uh all formats, um, Smith would play all formats. I'm not quite sure whether I'd open with him in the shorter format, possibly.

SPEAKER_01 20:47

Um the hard part with Smith I found is because he's retired from ODIs, I was like, are we gonna ask him to come out of retirement for the purpose of this series? Or or can I just bench him for the ODIs because I'm gonna use him in the T20s and the test? That was sort of my my thinking with with Smith. So I've gone to one less ODI, one less white ball specialist, I suppose, as a result of that.

SPEAKER_02 21:11

Yeah, and I understand that. I mean, I I look, I just think he he'll play all formats for for me. I I think he although he's technically he's retired from 50 over cricket, yeah. For this one-off format, I I think he he'd play. Um, I've got English in there as much as anything. I mean, he's for me, Carey's the number one keeper, and he will play uh for me all formats. But Inglis is there, compliance of that. He can play various formats, add his backup uh option. Should something happen to Carey. Um if he hurts himself, you've got a ready-made replacement keeping. Because I I assume, Trav, that you can't bring anyone in from outside that squad once the series.

SPEAKER_01 21:53

Well, I did think I think I thought about that, and I thought, well, injuries would probably be the exception because like in a world like in a World Cup, you can um bring in a player if there's an injury. Um that was sort of my that's why I I didn't think of you know Scotty Boland. I thought, well, if Hazelwood or Cummins goes in on then bowling comes in, sort of thing. That was my thinking, which I'm assuming you would do the same anyway.

SPEAKER_02 22:17

Yeah, okay, that's fair enough. So then, yeah, I've got uh Kes in, obviously. Uh then Webster and Green as um well got a couple of all rounders there. Um whoever plays what I I think I think Webster's made. A strong case to be the first choice all rounder in the test side. But Green, Green's a gun. We know how good a player he is. Just didn't quite fire last summer, but I think he'll be fine going forward. Then I've gone Starkey. Stark will play the test match at least. Lion would play the test match for me only. Hazelwood potentially can play multi-format if he's fit. Zampa white ball cricket, Ellis white ball cricket, David White ball cricket. I'd be trying to get David to play 50 overs as well as the T20s. Not that I'm not sure if he's even fielded in 50 over cricket for a week or so. And then and then obviously Pat. I'm probably a bit different to you. I'm only playing Pat in the test match. Okay. Too important. Look, I think so. I know he plays IPL, and you know, you're not going to stop someone earning four million dollars for nine weeks of work. So you would never stop anyone doing that. But for me, going forward, if I'm Australia, I'm saying to Pat Cummins, mate, you're the test captain. I want you to play as many of the tests. We've got, what have we got? 21 tests for the next game. Yeah. Something like that. I'd say to Pat, I want you to play 15 to 18 of those. Yeah. That's your priority. Um, and then go and play your IPL, do whatever you want. But but your priority, I want we our priority is for you to play as much test cricket as possible. I do like you to play all the tests, but don't need you to play 50 over cricket. Don't need you to play T20 Internationals. Just be the best leader and captain you can be and bowl your overs in Test cricket. That's where we need you. Um and I'm pretty strong on that because I I think the test we just saw how important a player he was in the Ashes. He played that one test match at Adelaide Oval. He came in, got the job done, and then put his put his feet up again because he's and no doubt he was sore. Um we can't afford we can't afford another uh 12 months with him playing one or two test matches. That's that's my that's my fear for the Australian side, especially with this aging bowling lineup with Stark, Hazelwood, uh Scotty Boland. Um Scotty is desperately unlucky to miss out on this game, this team. Um but um but yeah, we we we need Captain Pat to play as many test matches as possible, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_01 25:12

Yeah, I love it. No, that's a good that's a good strong squad. And you know, we've gone slightly different ways. Though I suppose my my differences were um we're bringing in Nathan McSweeney. I think he uh he for me is the the next player in. He's the Kowaja replacement, um being being a number five. Um he can we know he can bat up the order. I don't see him as an opener, but I can see him anywhere from three to five in the in the batting order.

SPEAKER_02 25:40

Um I don't see him batting, I certainly don't see him opening in the test side. No. Um three possibly, but I I I see McSweeney's way back into the side, probably more in that in that middle order space. So um, you know, I think there could be opportunities for him there, but you know, he he would need to put some uh stronger numbers up domestically, um you know, while it while he's done okay. Um he he's not banging the door down, so to speak. And I I think that's where we need, you know, yes, it's been tough for batting in domestic cricket, um, but but we know we need to see um we need to see something from from all the batters. Um but Nathan McSweeney, I think he'll play a lot of cricket for Australia. I've got no doubt about that. Um but I I think I think in in time it it will happen.

SPEAKER_01 26:33

Yeah, I think so too. And um he's got no better opportunity to put his name up in lights than whether Captain's not in the shield final against the Vicks uh next week. So big, big opportunity there for McSweeney. Um, you know, I've gone I've gone Renshaw. I'd be playing Renshaw in all three teams. Um I think he's shown um I think he's shown some real good signs at test level early in his career. Uh had some had some issues along the way, but I think he's matured, he's ready, uh, he's shown when he's coming to the white ball teams that he's actually played a really, really important role. So Renshaw for mine plays all three. I'm unfortunately dropping uh Jake Weatherald as much as I think he has formed a good partnership. I just think Renshaw, the way that he bats, would be a perfect foil um for Travis Head. So I've got I've got Renshaw and I had Curtis Patterson. So I've I'm Marus Labershane just hasn't hasn't done uh enough for mine since returning to the team. And um I I'm bringing in Curtis Patterson who has had a couple of really consistent seasons after returning from a big layoff. Um, and I love the way he plays. Uh he averages 144 in Test cricket, so that's hard to go past uh as a as an inclusion to the team. But he for mine, he takes Labershane's spot at number three. You've got McSweeney goes in at number five, and then and then that's your middle order with uh Steve Smith slotting in in the middle. So that's the I think that's the only difference, is other than that. I think I can't remember. Did you include Mitch Marsh in your in your squad or you no?

SPEAKER_02 28:04

I look I I debated that. Um ultimately now he's I uh look I underna that for me because I had Inglis as the backup wiki, but if he said to me that I can bring in a keeper if Carey, um I'd probably I'd probably slot in Mitch Marsh ahead of Inglis there. Yeah, nice if I can do that. So I'll probably bring okay. Well I'd bring Mitch Marsh in probably for for Josh Inglis in that in that can in that situation. Uh I just I just assume that we'd need to uh have a spare keeper there, but um if we don't need to have the spare keeper, then yeah, definitely Mitch Marsh.

SPEAKER_01 28:43

Be like the old travelling reserves they take with them to the World Cup, they take a couple of extras just in case they need a last-minute injury and quick turn.

SPEAKER_02 28:51

Well, wasn't it wasn't it the 92 World Cup where David Boone kept because Ian Healy got injured?

SPEAKER_01 28:57

Well, Dizzy'll have to tell me because I was born in 1992.

SPEAKER_02 29:00

Okay, well, I think from memory, uh it might be some of our listeners might be able to confirm this, but I could have sworn, because I I think I was in year 12 at the time, but I I could have sworn that um David Boone kept wicket because once you named your squad, you couldn't bring anyone out from outside in. You had a squad of 15 or 16, and you had to, in that World Cup, you had to actually play whoever was in. And I think Ian Healy got injured, so then David Boone had to keep wicket of the World Cup. So we'll see if any of our listeners uh knows anything about that. Um, I'm sure that's what happened. Admittedly, I was 17, so I'm not sure if it's entirely true. Did someone come in for you in 2003? You started that. Nathan Bracken. There you go. Nathan Brackett, yeah. I got injured. And I I was actually uh turns out I would have been fit for the final, but they decided they wanted to have a have a fully fit bowler. But um, but yeah, I think Brack's had issues as well. So um I would have liked to have been backed and kept kept with the squad and uh got treated and hopefully I could have been back for the final, but it wasn't a beat. Okay, what a shame.

SPEAKER_01 30:14

Well, that was a good exercise, Diz. I enjoyed that. So I'd love to get the feedback from our from our listeners and pop that up on the on the socials as a video as well. No doubt we'll get some get some feedback. It's been interesting to see. We've had a few comments um on the videos so far. People actually love the idea of bringing the multi-format series to the to the men's game as well. So I think we've I think we could start something here, Diz.

SPEAKER_02 30:35

So let's uh we might start something. You never know. It might start something.

SPEAKER_01 30:39

If it happens in the next couple of years, we'll know that we've uh that we've had an impact. You've had plenty of impact on Australian cricket. I've I've had none so far, so I wouldn't mind um I wouldn't mind sharing in this opinion for uh for a little bit of take we'll take a cut. Just like what do they take out of the series? Maybe 20 20% of their taking from the series?

SPEAKER_02 30:59

Oh that that'll do. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:01

Yeah, I think that will that'll cover must. All right, well, hey, this has been this has been really good fun. Now, tell me um you're off to you're off to Pakistan on the weekend, so um safe travels, um of course. And uh excited how the the Kingsman look like they're shaping up nicely. Marnus, yeah, our man Marnus, we've spoken about him uh dropping him from the Australian side, unfortunately, but he's gonna be a very important cog as the skipper of the Kingsman.

SPEAKER_02 31:26

Look, I've spoken to Marnus, he's very excited about being captain of the Kingsman and uh really looking forward to getting over there and getting stuck in. So um, yeah, exciting times. We've got a we feel we've got a good squad, um, good group of players. Um, we just want to go out there and entertain and have a bit of fun and enjoy it. It's gonna be obviously we're getting there, it's gonna be a short turnaround before our first game. So I think all teams are gonna be in the same boat just with all the stuff going on, um, you know, with transport and and getting to um getting to Pakistan. So um that there's some challenges there, but uh logistical challenges. So well done to everyone for um you know, hopefully getting it underway. So yeah, looking forward to it. Should be a bit of fun.

SPEAKER_01 32:08

And you've got the big show coming over. Now, last time we recorded our podcast, I reckon within an hour of me putting that podcast out, you'd signed you'd signed the big show, Gwen Maxwell. So that's a that's a massive coup for the uh franchise.

SPEAKER_02 32:22

Look, look, look, it is it is a big coup for the franchise. And look, I I don't know the um the ins and outs of his contract, but you know, my understanding would be that the Kingsmen own a few teams around the world, so he he might be a franchise player where he plays uh in a in a couple of different leagues. So that'd be exciting for Glenn, uh exciting for the Kingsmen for sure. So uh so looking forward to working with him. How good.

SPEAKER_01 32:48

Oh well, you and I will try and catch up online at some point, maybe, maybe before the Shield Final starts, but if not, no doubt throughout or uh at the end of it, and hopefully, sorry, Victorian listeners. I know we do have a uh a number of people listening from Victoria. We hope the South Australians get up, but we hope it's a great game. And um, and no doubt, Diz, you'll uh do you have any tips for the the player of the match?

SPEAKER_02 33:11

No, all I'll say is don't apologise to Victorians, mate. No, we're we're we're very biased here. We're South Australia. We want South Australia to win. Um, but uh look, all seriousness, hope it's a great game and really looking forward to um that may the best team win, but hopefully it's South Australia.

unknown 33:28

Player of the match.

SPEAKER_02 33:30

Player of the match. Ooh I like your call of Nathan McSweeney just dishing out some discipline and scoring some big runs and that. But I I feel I feel a bowler is just gonna do something special. Um you know, I feel Nathan McAndrew's peaking at the right time. Uh he's doing very well. Um so you know, I'm gonna say McAndrew could play a really important role here um for South Australia. Um you know I I see Henry Hunt got 81 in the last innings uh against Victoria. Uh but I I'm with you. I think Nathan McSweeney could um you know could be the one.

SPEAKER_01 34:11

Well, that would be huge for South Australia, huge for his chances to get back into the Aussie squad.

SPEAKER_02 34:16

Absolutely, and just finally, mate, as well, I'm glad that we didn't have a blow-up like we saw on another podcast with a former player.

SPEAKER_01 34:23

Now I I didn't know whether to I didn't know whether to bring his. I know you yeah, I know your mates were Stewie, and uh and uh but that was do you reckon that that was all put on to get more people watching the pod? I initially thought so, but now he's not on the podcast anymore. So he so he his menace has kicked him off the podcast. So I know they're still doing some stuff with I know they're still doing some stuff with Dream Eleven, but um but yeah, yeah, no, I mate, I I sent you a message at the time and I I said I really appreciate you not uh not blowing up at me and treating me as uh as an equal co-host to this show. So I'm so glad we have such a great relationship. Um just thought it was bizarre. Yeah, it was, it was, and um you know, you and I spent pretty much the best part of 48 hours together um in each other's company.

SPEAKER_02 35:22

And that that's time neither of us could that's time neither of us can get back as well.

SPEAKER_01 35:31

Hey it was a good time. Shout out to our listeners in Castleton who I know have subscribed to the the pod as well and um and loving every single show. So, mate, safe travels, like I said, to Pakistan. We will catch up again very soon. And uh go the Kingsmen, go the South Aussies, and go the bloody 36ers. How good. Yes, absolutely. All the best South Australian sport. It's brilliant, love it. Thanks for listening to the Still Not Out podcast, everyone. We will see you again very soon.